/fa/ - Fashion

[Anonymous No.15920394]

Is conformity the new punk?

[Anonymous No.15920419]

>>15920394
conformity to globohomo like your pic? nope. Traditionalism, however, is making its punk comeback

[Anonymous No.15920432]

>>15920419
>Trad is the new punk rock.

Shut up Paul Joseph Thotson.

[Anonymous No.15920467]

>>15920419
>hoboglomo

[Anonymous No.15920486]

>>15920394
All my friends are white then again I'm not some low T university faggot

[Anonymous No.15920500]

>>15920486
>All my friends are white

[Anonymous No.15920521]

>>15920394
>>15920394
Counter culture is the new punk. So that means not listening to mainstream media, having zero tattoos or piercings, having children, being straight, only marrying within your race, wearing regular fit clothes instead of slim fit, not doing drugs, not being a slut. Basically live your life like it's the 1950s and you are doing counter culture and being a non conformist.

[Anonymous No.15920523]

>>15920394
>>15920467
hello samefaggot

punk isn't anything. it's a bullshit attitude. but I'll tell you that punk isn't about neurotically monitoring the status quo so you can do the opposite of what they're doing

[Anonymous No.15920568]

>>15920521
>>15920523
basé

[Anonymous No.15920574]

>>15920521
the fashion companies are actually all memeing loose fit clothes again to get all the normals to buy the new trend. stock up on slim and skinny fit now for the next wave of counter culture

[Anonymous No.15920580]

>>15920432
As much as buzzwords and phrases like "conservatism is the new punk rock" bug me, it’s kinda got a point. When I think of modern day counterculture, it's shit like pic related. Being a peacocking faggot with full sleeve tats and a blue sidecut is the new normal, and the only old punk icon I can think of who's still actually an iconoclast/acts like a punk is Johnny Rotten doing shit like endorsing Trump to troll people.

[Anonymous No.15920757]

[Anonymous No.15920765]

>>15920394
Conservation is the new Punk

[Anonymous No.15920841]

>>15920394
Are you retarded my friend? I'll smash your skull.

[Anonymous No.15920845]

>>15920521
That is not counter culture what the fuck are you even talking about.

Touch grass holy fucking shit.

[Anonymous No.15920850]

>>15920521
You are so braindead it is beyond belief. Please do not speak in the name of punk or what it is or isn't because you clearly have nothing to do with nor even a surface level understanding of it.

[Anonymous No.15920863]

>>15920850
>>15920845
So you guys think it's punk to do what big corporations tell you to? Like be pro lgbt, pro race mixing, pro if it feels good do it, pro decriminalization of drugs?

[Anonymous No.15920874]

>>15920863
Here we go again...

And now apparently, conservatives who have always directlt simped for corporations are "not doing what they tell them to". Man you guys are braindead.

[Anonymous No.15920875]

>>15920850
>>15920845
Dudes punk is about doing the opposite of what the man tells you.

[Anonymous No.15920895]

>>15920394
>>15920521
>>15920580
>>15920757
>>15920765
>>15920845
>>15920850

The punk sub culture by definition has no political slant. It harbors a variety of music subgenres, fashion, etc. It focuses on individual freedom and DIY ethics, but is not specifically left or right wing. The punk subculture is very anti-authoritarianism, anti-consumerist, anti-corporatist, and most of all non-conformist. If you were right wing and had these values, and identified with the punk sub culture then thats what you are.

Also yall are aware that were/are fascists in the punk movement right?

[Anonymous No.15921046]

>>15920863
Yea decriminalize drugs, and I don't have a problem with race mixing or lgbt people. I do have a problem with "if it feels good do it" and the fact that you think all of the people involved in those things also believe that just shows you've never done anything in your entire life. I'm mixed and I don't drink alcohol, smoke or even drink coffee. I am an individual, I know what I value and I don't oppose things just because the institutions I hate value them. If you were an individual you would base your decisions on what you personally value other than just the opposition to the norm.

[Anonymous No.15921050]

>>15920895
>The punk sub culture by definition has no political slant.
kek

[Anonymous No.15921051]

>>15920895
Right wing in this context basically means you hate gays and brown people since you basically listed everything that makes a right winger

[Anonymous No.15921062]

>>15920521
This is triggering the libs hard. Is this the first time they realized they are mainstream/conformists?

[Anonymous No.15921067]

>>15921046
>I am an individual

[Anonymous No.15921087]

>>15921046
cringed and killed myself because of this shit

[Anonymous No.15921285]

>>15920757
It's the other way around. Major corporations co-opted and absorbed punk ideology and repackaged anew in a way that doesn't inspire outright dissent. This happens with all such movements.

[Anonymous No.15921337]

>>15920757
Oh Veronica what have they done to you

[Anonymous No.15921353]

>>15920845
You're delusional if you think that normie cooperate picture has anything at all to do with punk.
t. 90s punk/goth/grunger

[Anonymous No.15921362]

>>15921046
>Yea I want my soma and don't have a problem with institutionalized movements which have been shown to subvert and destroy a functioning society, or any kind of community
You faggots obviously where too young to understand what happened t even shit like Occupy Wallstreet if you think faggots and drugs are a-okay to be broken from outside social tabus.

[Anonymous No.15921365]

the "norm" is caring, therefore counter culture is not caring.

boil down every major lefty social change and at the root of it is YOU MUST CARE and every media org relies upon everyone caring just so much.
You need to care about every tweet everyone you follow posts
You need to care about every interaction your friends have
You need to care what every politician is doing or saying
You need to care about everything the government is doing
You need to care about every new cause or social justice or inequality that we're """"solving"""" today.
And then from caring you're supposed to police/""correct"" everything thats ""wrong"".
The counter to all of it is not caring. No I dont care pewdiepie said the n word. No i dont care what trump tweeted. no i dont care whos in the capitol. no i dont care my friend """""gaslighted"""""" a girl in highschool. No i dont care enough to vote. all of these things destroy whatever media narrative or social movement is in its path.

[Anonymous No.15921380]

>>15921365
/thread

[Anonymous No.15921384]

>>15921362
I remember. I hated what happened to occupy wall street and I hate what's happening to blm now. I hate what's going to happen to the whole game stop thing. Kaczynski talked all the time about how this is the very nature of the system. It subverts and undermines movements that would have otherwise been used for liberation to pacify people.

Also when have "race mixing" and homosexuality destroyed a society.

[Anonymous No.15921392]

Been putting together a punk cd to give out, love diy art projects. Made a zine last year and gave it out at school and laundromats

[Anonymous No.15921395]

>>15921384
>this is the very nature of the system. It subverts and undermines movements
by design
you are slaves

[Anonymous No.15921397]

>>15921384
>Also when have "race mixing" and homosexuality destroyed a society.
There are actual studies on this topic which show that a) heterogenic cultures reduce social trust and increase trust in the goverment (as by design) as the individuals have no social tight knit communities which would afeguard them making them reliant on the staat and b) homosexuality prevents male non-sexual bonding, increasing stress, preventing a non-damaging venting as well has implement female characteristics in the male working space, leading to all kinds of problems. Further homosexuality strongl corelateds with pederasty, making the biggest chunk of homosexuals due to early childhood abuse, which is known to further lead to the abuce of other minors as they mature due to trauma. This makes all males suspectible to scrutiny in regards to children, preventing even fatherly love or let alone that of the imidiate male family from being openly shown, as to not be seen as a molestor.

And that's just a tl;dr. It'S beneficial for the system to promote a steril lifestyle as well as the one which makes people break up and form a higher faith in the goverment instead of their own community (plus it lowers wages, which futher benefits the coorps on the back of the actual worker).

[Anonymous No.15921468]

>>15921397
What you said about heterogenic cultures is absolutely true. However, especially in America, this has almost nothing to do with race mixing. Often, especially in poor neighborhoods, as I've experienced, as long as everyone speaks the same language and is not racially exclusive, then either they'll adopt the identity of the community they inhabit, or more often in suburban environments, they'll identify as Americans. This is essentially how all of the modern cultures have been created today and in America it's no different. In terms of homosexuality, there might be a problem with pedophilia but I've never seen a study give a definitive answer on where it stems from. I also don't support gay adoption, but that's mostly because I think a mother and a father figure ought to be present to have a well developed child.


>>15921395
Yea, you're right except that marxism only focuses on the material world specifically so we could be free from it.

[Anonymous No.15921481]

>>15920394
Punk is dead.
It was too white, so they killed it by making part of the ruling class culture

[Anonymous No.15921497]

>>15921481
Based. So many people really don't know the black origins of skinheads.

[Anonymous No.15921516]

>>15921468
Miscegenation has much more sever problems than just subverting a society with outsiers. You not only lower parental investment and increase pschological and physiological health problems as well erasing the individuals connection to their ethnic background but you also have additionally the prior listed effects, as the mixed child becomes a sore thumb in their priviously homogenious society. This individual will also more likely form a new identity as he can't properly fit into either parents. This identity han be advertised and formed by cooperations, that person becomes basically a tool to make a buck on.

And even your personal anecdote doesn't hold water because it's not a conscious effort to hold back other races from your weeken BBQ. It's the difference between "getting it" or even being expected to share a cultural heritage. You will never have the epigenetical and sociological baggage which comes with being a certain race and therefore can never really contribute as one of their own or speak for them while being taken serious. Sucking in a certain identity and becoming X also makes it necessary for there to be a majority culture, which there isn't anymore for over a generation in america. The longer it's gone the more radical those groups will become, as there is no base white culture which makes up the rule to follow. Now it's cooperations making the cultural trends as it suits them, which change as often as they can bring out new fashions and sell shit.

>but I've never seen a study give a definitive answer on where it stems from
We can reason that it's the same mechanic as with other forms of early childhood trauma. People severly beaten as children, more often than not beat their own children to a similar degree. It's the perversion of a inert human concept of learning from your eldars could be said. Either way, it's reason enought to not promote homosexuality in the open and therefore to encourage youths to encounter such individuals.

[Anonymous No.15921620]

>>15921516
But you've ignored the fact that for 13% of americans, their cultural backgrounds have already been erased. Also, are you really going to tell me that your average hick in west virginia is "Irish" or "Scottish"? Some of those mother fuckers are blue! Still you are arguing against multi-culturalism, which granted, if done like in the EU and the American South, can lead to disastrous effects in the short term and maybe in the long depending on policy, but which still, has nothing to do with race mixing. A mixed child with a black mom and white dad will have all of the information he needs to integrate into either "culture" because of his mom or dad. Also what physiological and psychological problems develop. Are there actual studies?

I do agree with you however, that in generations-old multicultural environments, there does become an identity vacuum which soulless corporations seek to fill. However, I think we ought to take Malcom X's advice and take this opportunity to form our own new identities, that value the family unit and community.

>The homo argument
Can't a Kid Beater develop from even a loving environment though? I don't think there is enough justification to condemn homos, just to keep overt sex away from kids.

[Anonymous No.15921629]

im mixed race. i never considered myself belonging to any race despite speaking two language and having a completely foreign first name. none of my parents raised me. the internet did. i ended up joining an internet cult and doing very regrettable things and killing my future. i wish i could prevent this from happening to more children. ive always been very live and let live do whatever people want lefty libertarian type but now i dunno

[Anonymous No.15921667]

>>15921620
>But you've ignored the fact that for 13% of americans, their cultural backgrounds have already been erased. Also, are you really going to tell me that your average hick in west virginia is "Irish" or "Scottish"?
Till the 60s white euro trash settled together, breeding together, just like ghettos still do today. That's how littel china or italy have been created. And the further you increase the genetic and cultural distance, the harder it gets. While you might have a pretty good spiel with a german and a bong, to create a homogenius society within a couple generations, because they are already pretty similar, you now add a couple italians, some greeks, russians, SSA and chinks into the equation and you won't get any of it, because it is impossible to mix them all up properly or to make them addopt to a non-existant majority culture.

>A mixed child with a black mom and white dad will have all of the information he needs to integrate into either "culture" because of his mom or dad.
The information is useless. You can learn all you want about japan and larp as hard as you physically can, but still no jap will consider you one of them. Sure, they might find your desperate attempts cute and will show mercy, but they wont let you speak on their behalve. Being half-jap half-caucasian, let alone anything lower than that, will get you shunned for being a traitor in their midst, as you can't be loyal to both and it's the safer decision to cut you out tribally.

> Are there actual studies?
A shitton, here are a couple pastebins about the consequences of such actions.
https://pastebin.com/cw5LejFL
https://pastebin.com/hS3iw4Tu

[Anonymous No.15921670]

>>15921620
>However, I think we ought to take Malcom X's advice and take this opportunity to form our own new identities, that value the family unit and community.
You can only form such values on the same experiences. Malcolm was strictly talking about his peoples fate, basically seperationism, which I support, as it allows people made into hybrids to form a new independant chapter, only having heir own specific well being in mind. But it is impossible to make up a new creation myth when you have literally all kinds of people with different mind sets, values and loyalties. There is a reason why the only combining myth you can put a majority under is a negative one ("we're all victims of X group"). Negative creation myths will never let your people blossom and once the negative aspect is removed, you wil have to look for new victimizers.

>Can't a Kid Beater develop from even a loving environment though?
Sure it can, we also have studies on prenatal hormornal disruptors changing sex preferances from hetero to gay. Obviously not all gays are pedos. But if you foster this subculture you increase your chances of gettng a molesting faggot, which in his path of violence can ruin the lifes of many children, further multiplicating possible victims.

>I don't think there is enough justification to condemn homos, just to keep overt sex away from kids.
There was the "don't ask, don't tell" rule for a reason. It prevented the early childhood sexualitsation for the most part, as once you "told" through behaviour towards anybody, especially minors, you have been made undone. Which I promote. Fags are free to bugger each other as long as they don't engage in showing it off. They always told us that it's a slipper slope fallacity, but in reality it has all come to reality. It's no about personal freedom but "bake the cake bigot".

[Anonymous No.15921671]

>>15921620
It's not about educating young faggots that ass fucking is possible, but to fullfill their desire to touch kids and make them like themelves. And once you openly tolerate gays, you have no way of preveting them from joining as an autoritiv figur with kids.

[Anonymous No.15921682]

>>15921629
I'm mixed as well and no day goes by when I don't desperatly wish to belong to a culture, despite my parents culture being basically neightboors. But I will never match. From personal experience I know enought other people like that. For example many turks here get fanatic and radical because they are the "turk" in germany and the "german" in turkey. Neither fish nor meat. Shunned by both cultures, only thing left is a religious fanatic delusion which disregards race for the most part. For most other people this delusion is some globohomo big business virtue of the week.

And you know what's worst? That my children will suffer as well if I don't hide one of my roots and if found out, will go through the same misery as myself. People fucking "exotic" should be culled or made steril for the sake of their potential progeny.

[Anonymous No.15921696]

>>15921671
slippery asslope fallacy

[Anonymous No.15921736]

>>15920580
>the only old punk icon I can think of who's still actually an iconoclast/acts like a punk is Johnny Rotten doing shit like endorsing Trump to troll people.
they hated him because he told the truth, it was always about pissing people off, never the politics

[Anonymous No.15921745]

conservatism has never been punk, but you know what has always been punk?
Doing whatever the fuck you want.
Join the LGBT community to spite and undermine the lesbians
Get into politics and call everyone a wet banana
Attempt to become senator whilst wearing only ties with neon lights
Build a rollercoaster and try to turn it into a weapon
Make a conservative twitter account and repost all the e-girls on there with cut-outs of your nose and balls.
Start a green grocers called Petit Shit
Buy some takeout food and throw it into the air
Wear dresses in public and throw up on yourself
Embrace being a complete tool
Build a wall in the middle of a road

>>15921365
this

[Anonymous No.15921756]

>>15921745

[Anonymous No.15922049]

Nah, punk is the new punk, and that being said, punk is retarded as shit and has long been coopted by big businesses to monetize the instinctual juvenile rebellion, and combined with the constant infantilization of culture you end up with perpetu-punks who are too stupid to realise they’re also a product of “tHe SyStEm” they so vehemently rage against.
That being said the garden variety conservative is also a product and gets his opinions straight from a corporation or political entity as well.

[Anonymous No.15922089]

>>15921745
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0D4ekTODuA

[Anonymous No.15922632]

>>15920394
no

[Anonymous No.15922656]

>>15920521
THIS.

[Anonymous No.15923782]

It's not that "conservatism is the new punk rock". It's that counter culture is becoming so insane, that no one wants to deal with it anymore.

[Anonymous No.15923844]

>>15921745
>Join the LGBT community to spite and undermine the lesbians
This is socially and politically acceptable
>Get into politics and call everyone a wet banana
This is socially and politically acceptable
>Attempt to become senator whilst wearing only ties with neon lights
This is socially and politically acceptable
>Build a rollercoaster and try to turn it into a weapon
This is illegal
>Make a conservative twitter account and repost all the e-girls on there with cut-outs of your nose and balls.
This is socially and politically acceptable
>Start a green grocers called Petit Shit
This is socially and politically acceptable
>Buy some takeout food and throw it into the air
This is socially and politically acceptable
>Wear dresses in public and throw up on yourself
This is socially and politically acceptable
>Embrace being a complete tool
This is socially and politically acceptable
>Build a wall in the middle of a road
This is illegal

[Anonymous No.15923860]

>>15920394
punk was itself conformity, just as the out group

[Anonymous No.15924137]

I, Me !1n6WugqKa6, am a prison whore and a slut for horsecum. I eat cum from all sentient beings. I get high by snorting sand. I drink mouthwash as an alcoholic beverage. I give the best advice on /fa/. I am beautiful and intelligent. You will not bully someone as beautiful and intelligent as me.

[Anonymous No.15925202]

>>15920521
lol nupunks btfo

[Anonymous No.15925384]

>>15920521
Go outside

[Anonymous No.15925396]

>>15920874
>who have always directlt simped for corporations
Supporting corporations legally isn't quite the same thing as going along with corporations' political messages. Just as bad though

[Anonymous No.15925410]

>>15920394
Conformity literally cannot ever be Punk

[Anonymous No.15925417]

"conservative is the new punk" ah yes the ideology of old rich people is counter culture because corporations have realised it's more profitable to not actively discourage people from using their company.
Fucking idiots

[Anonymous No.15925423]

>>15920875
This is some Facebook uncle tier political understanding

[Anonymous No.15925424]

>>15920394
they look like they have fun spending time together

[Anonymous No.15925434]

>>15920394
Radical feminisim is the ultimate punk. Pisses off the soiboys, libfems, and /pol/tards simultaneously

[Anonymous No.15925448]

new counter culture is not dressing like a clown, being fat or having dumbass tattoos like a stickerbook.

[Anonymous No.15926556]

>>15920863
I think all the things you listed are fine, but I don't agree with the globo homoagebda to push them on people. I think deciding to be "read" specifically to spite those things is just as cringe as supporting them. It's like punks in 2001 thinking dressing "punk" is edgy. Just think for yourself.

[Anonymous No.15926562]

>>15920863
Also the war on drugs is a huge part of the global homo's black budget retard. The government is secretly the drug dealer AND the prison system. Don't you get that?

[Anonymous No.15926607]

>>15926562
>>15926556
Anyone who believes globohomo is real needs an emergency psych checkup

[Anonymous No.15927271]

>DIS IS NEW PUNK COUNTERCULTURE=GOOD, WE ARE MIND KEKS TO 20TH CENTURY TROPES
fuck off faggots

[Anonymous No.15927289]

>>15923844
>it's socially and politically acceptable
They had rock concerts in the '70s and '80s, it's not like the OG punk kids were doing anything they shouldn't have been by getting together and playing music badly - while wearing leather jackets that were popularized by their "conformist" parents 20 years prior.

Every generation finds itself at odds with the previous one at some point. The kids of the '70s simply gave this phenomenon a name - "punk" - and pursued it so aggressively that it became commodified. Now the word is meaningless, more of a descriptor for aesthetics than an ideology.

Rather than trying to be "punk," you're better off trying to simply express yourself. If your self expression entails wearing jackets and combat boots, cool. If it entails wearing a button-down shirt and slacks, cool again.

[Anonymous No.15927298]

>>15921067
>tf no weird smelling bird girl gf

[Anonymous No.15927301]

>>15927289
Whatever you do, if you're doing it simply to be different, you're not really doing you. And that's not punk. But as >>15923860 points out, it's kind of bullshit anyway. A paradoxical concept that conservatives and liberals alike are desperate to monopolize. How shitty have modern politics become that the average idiot on both sides is chasing a hollow idea?

[Anonymous No.15927305]

>>15921670
>You can only form such values on the same experiences. Malcolm was strictly talking about his peoples fate, basically seperationism, which I support, as it allows people made into hybrids to form a new independant chapter, only having heir own specific well being in mind. But it is impossible to make up a new creation myth when you have literally all kinds of people with different mind sets, values and loyalties. There is a reason why the only combining myth you can put a majority under is a negative one ("we're all victims of X group"). Negative creation myths will never let your people blossom and once the negative aspect is removed, you wil have to look for new victimizers.
Not the guy you're replying to, but Malcom X was talking about global Islam.
Take the Green pill. Higher values are more important than what particular colour of clay the fleshgolems around you happen to be made from.

[Anonymous No.15927317]

>>15927289
Nothing says rugged individualism like identifying yourself with the products consumed by your generation as a way to self-differentiate from the products consumed by your lame parents generation.
How did you become such an iconoclast?

[Anonymous No.15927322]

>>15921629
Based avant-garde internet cultist.
The true Punks of our generation are all those SilkRoad pot dealers who are now multi-millionaires and those kids who run off to join ISIS because they got talking politics to somebody on ps4.
What regrettable things did you do?

[Anonymous No.15927332]

>>15927317
I see you gave up reading after the first sentence.

tl;dr: Punk is bullshit, it's a fashion label at best now. Distinguishing yourself from others purely to be different is also bullshit. If you want to come close to what punk once stood for (if it ever even did), simply do your thing, whether in the consumer world, the ideological world, etc. and don't worry so much about what your path happens to be called.

[Anonymous No.15927335]

>>15920521
lmao @ the seething redditors replying to this post

[Anonymous No.15927337]

>>15927317
I see you gave up reading after the first sentence.

tl;dr: Punk is bullshit, it's a fashion label at best now. Distinguishing yourself from others purely to be different is also bullshit. If you want to come close to what punk once stood for (if it ever even did), simply do your thing, whether in the consumer world, the ideological world, etc. and don't worry about what your path happens to be called or how it compares to others.

[Anonymous No.15927341]

>>15927337
Okay Dad

[Anonymous No.15927342]

>>15927335
>but uses an image shared on social media

[Anonymous No.15927349]

>>15927341
Go get 'em, champ

[Anonymous No.15927376]

>>15927305
Higher values are inert to ones physiology. A subsaharan african communicating with click-sounds lacks even the building blocks fo such basic concepts like holding ones promise, as there never was a necessity for it in his envoirement. You can't teach nor expect people like that from understanding and freel following a much more complex higher value. You would need to transform the context of your higher values (religion) to the lowest common denominator. Same goes for other people around the world.

Malcolm has fallen for what many intellectually gifted people fall for, to think that his standards of thought can be blindly replicated by good will and teachings, not understanding the physical limitations of the majority of people. It's basically like thinking tha without religions we would live in a space age because muh rationality and free education. Reality is, we only got a new religion which is consumerism.

You wouldn't expect a toaster to run crisis, so why do you expect an australien aborighinal to understand what we just talked about?

[Anonymous No.15927379]

>>15927376
Because I don't expect the average white to understand either. Islam takes a set of virtues and drills it into your head five times a day every day for the rest of your life. That means more than arbitrary race autism.

[Anonymous No.15927433]

>>15927379
While I do think that this is the way for he unterpriviliged in terms of intellect, I don't consider it to be worthy of called a "higher value" when it's basically a suberficial mantra. That's like training a dog to not beg uner the table for scraps. If you train him right, he wont do it, but you wouldn't think that he understands the concept of hygiene, etikette or any other reason why we trained him that way.

Personally, while I do consider Islam to be a very usefull tool, do not think that it's universality is possible, as in acual faith, not mechanics. But that goes for every major religion (one of which I myself follow). It boils down to the fact that different people need different rules of governence, both physical and mental. If you consier race or at least its concept to be arbitrary I can whole heartedly recommend to you books as "Biohistory" by Penman, as to show how even epigenetics, that is things you encounter in your life can change the code you give onto your children. It's worth to understand it, if you want to fight the good fight, otherwise you're just fighting against wind mills.

Just take the heterogenic society as a example, do you think it's a coincidence that conumerism, made up issues as well as a negative creation myth are their religion of choice? It's because bug mentality is the common denominator. Once you scrap off everything that makes a natural traditional culture, you're a leaf floading on each random wave. You will be just as unable to install a world kalifat in that envoirement, as I would be to create a Catholic utopia, as the people we preach to, have no common base to grow the seed of faith.

[Anonymous No.15928038]

Do you think Americans are always so obsessed with culture because they have none?

[Anonymous No.15928044]

>>15928038
like any heterogenized society

[Anonymous No.15928061]

>>15928038
No, because obsession with culture would be a culture in itself. Consumerism is the culture, however; it is the consumer society -- and it's not merely in material goods.

[Anonymous No.15928080]

>>15920895
>The punk sub culture by definition has no political slant
are you sure about that. anon?

[Anonymous No.15928083]

>>15920895
>If you were right wing and had these values, and identified with the punk sub culture then thats what you are.
no, no self-respecting right-winger (as if they exist) would call themselves punk. that's why the right wing ripoff of punk is called rock against communism and not punk.

>yall are aware that were/are fascists in the punk movement
see above

[Anonymous No.15928467]

>>15920394
yes. Populist Liberal ideologies are pretty rebellious.

[Anonymous No.15928521]

>>15928467
They are globalist not populist

[Anonymous No.15928774]

>>15921050
It doesn't you idiot
You don't know shit

[Anonymous No.15928829]

No. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.15929254]

>>15925423
Even facebook uncles exposed your leftshit hypocrisy

[Anonymous No.15929451]

>>15920394
No.

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[Anonymous No.15929491]

>>15927433
>If you consier race or at least its concept to be arbitrary I can whole heartedly recommend to you books as "Biohistory" by Penman, as to show how even epigenetics, that is things you encounter in your life can change the code you give onto your children. It's worth to understand it, if you want to fight the good fight, otherwise you're just fighting against wind mills.
This is an interesting theory, and one I've often held myself, but I've always taken a more aristocratic stance towards it. Allow societies to form higher and lower parts, and the higher part will gradually evolve towards embodiment of certain virtues. Allow for advanced distribution of labour, and the lower classes will evolve towards their own chosen caste. Whats important, and what I think is often ignored by racialists, is that race has a strong active and spiritual dimension, and is shaped much more by actions and inner disposition as by arbitrary and random genetic mutations. There's no point trying to separate, for example, white and black americans, because they have mostly the same internal disposition and their cultural values shape them into a homogeneous form, even if that isn't recognized due to political factors.

>Just take the heterogenic society as a example, do you think it's a coincidence that conumerism, made up issues as well as a negative creation myth are their religion of choice? It's because bug mentality is the common denominator. Once you scrap off everything that makes a natural traditional culture, you're a leaf floading on each random wave.
I agree with you completely, which is why we have to move now before its too late.The West is a machine set on liquidizing peoples in order to increase capital flow. Islam teaches people to honour their ancestors. Ironically, Islam would do a better job of preserving European civilization than modernity would, but it would also integrate Europe into a fraternity of more ancient nations and civilizations.

[Anonymous No.15929838]

>>15929491
>Allow societies to form higher and lower parts, and the higher part will gradually evolve towards embodiment of certain virtues. Allow for advanced distribution of labour, and the lower classes will evolve towards their own chosen caste.
This would just be natural. In this context it is also interesting to know, that nearly everybody alive has a direct line to the elites of times gone by, as those have given life to more surviving and reproducing children than the lower classes. This finally also lead to the culling of so many criminals, especially in the medieval european period, that we have directly changed our gen pool to be more tame - which now might actually do our "enlightened" society more harm than good, while more virile ones are harder to subvert.

>Whats important, and what I think is often ignored by racialists, is that race has a strong active and spiritual dimension, and is shaped much more by actions and inner disposition as by arbitrary and random genetic mutations.
As I already mentioned your brain and therefore your ability to be spiritual is directly linked to your genetics and race.

>white and black americans, because they have mostly the same internal disposition and their cultural values shape them into a homogeneous form
I don't think you could be any more off path with such wishfull thinking to be quite honest. While yes, american blacks have a high admixture of white ancestry, they still have half of their genetic make up from a very primitive and cognitivly inferiour heritage. To understand that you only have to look at the IQ and the crime statistics. Usually, the higher our "virtue load" and intellect, the lower your desire to be physically aggressive, as most things can be simply talked out and because you have much more to looe getting hot headed. This can be seen even on the poorest whites in america when compared to when upper middle class black communities.

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[Anonymous No.15929840]

>>15929491
(cont.)
Genetically speaking even a white mother has less in common with her own child (if that is mixed race) than with a random white american (she bone narrow donor complications, where the own family is completely incompatible). Even even a woman can't give birth to her own child and make it of a more similar disposition than would be created by chance, you clearly need to realise that seperationismis the only path for all parties to succed in their own envoirement.

>Ironically, Islam would do a better job of preserving European civilization than modernity would, but it would also integrate Europe into a fraternity of more ancient nations and civilizations.
As a traditional Catholic you would be surprised how how Islam has in common with our values. Starting at actual modest dressig of women, till the dawn of the 20th century and ending with the limitations of usuary. There is a reason why certain elements have destroyed the financially and populational wise stronger ommunity with the second vaticn council before making sure that the other has been decimatd and merely used as a D&C tool.
While Islam would be probably better than what we have now, it would still leave the people which have a strong bound to their religious heritage without one, having to addopt that of foreign people. This might work in some asian islands, but it wouldn't in a greater scale in europe, as Catholicism is already the adapted spiritual unerstanding of the world of our people.

I can only caution you to consider every one to be a blank slate. Just like with Cain and Abel, we might have been created with the same "Götterfunken" but we will always express it in a different way, depending on the years and differentiations which have passed since we left the first maternal bossom.

[Anonymous No.15929984]

>>15920394
punk was never punk. they were always faggots and so are you.
>>15920521
and you.

[Anonymous No.15929989]

>>15928083
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTyBmyHlfI