/wt/ - Watch Thread

[Anonymous No.15915012]

SARBjust Edition

This thread is about the appreciation of watches and their design, their history, and the engineering and materials that are required to make a cracker of a watch, mate.

Guides:
> Poorfag guide: https://m.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

Should I buy this MVMT / DW / "minimalist" fashion watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

Should I buy this Armani / Michael Kors / mall watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/Sw1FsAn

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
> Wrist size or desired watch size

Breguet Thread >>15912671

[Anonymous No.15915023]

Nippon Superiority edition

[Anonymous No.15915025]

first for alpinist

[Anonymous No.15915037]

>>15915023
tfw mountains jews can't keep up with asians
soon even the chinks will out qc swiss shitters

[Anonymous No.15915043]

>hi im tim

[Anonymous No.15915047]

Bow down to the Shipp god

[Anonymous No.15915048]

>>15915043
and thanks for logging on

[Anonymous No.15915050]

SARY

[Anonymous No.15915058]

Get your new favourite dress watch here:
https://www.longislandwatch.com/search_results_a/258.html?search=Islander+Hi-Beat

[Anonymous No.15915063]

Grand Seiko Dickmaster

[Anonymous No.15915086]

>>15915012
Holy shit, it is disgusting in the best possible way. Guy is going to sell thousands of these.

[Anonymous No.15915089]

>>15915023
First for glorious chinese hand finishes.

[Anonymous No.15915090]

>>15915058
Hey Islander intern, are your watches any good? The prices are nice, but what makes your Hong Kong made micro brand any better than the hundreds of other micro brand?

[Anonymous No.15915091]

Can't guess this watch

[Anonymous No.15915094]

>>15915063
Its disgusting but i fucking live this watch. It's like a luxury g-shock

[Anonymous No.15915106]

Guys, help me decide...

[Anonymous No.15915109]

>>15915090
Not him, i think the advantage that ling island watch has it that he knows exactly what is in demand and makes it. Of course that means he is making watches to fit a checklist of styles and features desired by low budget watch collectors, But he does a decent job of it. That does mean there are no really unique designs and his watches range from blatant copies to arguably tasteful homages.

[Anonymous No.15915115]

>>15915023
The mountain Jew fears the Samurai

[Anonymous No.15915125]

Can we do this again?

[Anonymous No.15915135]

>>15915106
Left to right:
Citizen Eco-Drive Radio
>Perfect precision
>lume on hands
>indiviudal design

Citizen Automatic
>Miyota 8XXX movement
>fancy open heart
>super titanium case

Islander SARBjust
>LUME
>Miyota 9015
>Ovious Oyster look

[Anonymous No.15915136]

ATD53-2841 (pic)
Or
CB1120-50E
Or
CB1070-56E
If you mist have a white dial then
CB1120-50A

[Anonymous No.15915141]

>>15915125
do wut
watch on a book you reading?

[Anonymous No.15915144]

>>15915136
Meant for
>>15915106

[Anonymous No.15915151]

>>15915141
basically. bonus points if they match.

[Anonymous No.15915154]

Any non-passé Explorer alternatives?
Must be just as versatile. Bonus points for under 40mm. Budget 10k or under.

[Anonymous No.15915161]

You jelly of my AP?

Chicks see this and they SUCK my DICK immediately.

[Anonymous No.15915165]

>>15915161
is that a rolex

[Anonymous No.15915170]

>>15915161
You know what's a dead giveaway that it's fake without even looking at the watch. You can't afford to have it fit to your arm you fat fuck

[Anonymous No.15915172]

Really shitty fake

[Anonymous No.15915187]

>>15915141
desu I just do it on whatever is aesthetic

[Anonymous No.15915190]

>>15915125
my Beams X Hamilton arrived.
ppl who've said that it's difficult to photograph the khaki because of no AR aren't fucking kidding by the way
watch is cool though, book is even cooler

[Anonymous No.15915191]

>>15915190
also since ppl asked about it when I posted about it a while back, the usb is just a card-shaped usb card with 500mg of space. kinda odd.

[Anonymous No.15915193]

>>15915161
girls only care about apple watches.

i speak from experience.

[Anonymous No.15915205]

>>15915154
How about the Omega Seamaster 300 Master Co-axial?

[Anonymous No.15915207]

>>15915205
Meh it's not a railmaster

[Anonymous No.15915210]

>>15915193
Instagram thots know about AP. Most girls know about Rolex, though they have no idea what they cost. In my experience they also know Cartier.

[Anonymous No.15915214]

>>15915190
best photo I could do. anyone know where to get an AR coated replacement crystal? I know crystaltimes used to sell them but they don't anymore.

[Anonymous No.15915230]

Ringdin is so gay

[Anonymous No.15915255]

>>15915125
Yes

[Anonymous No.15915258]

>>15915214
Color scheme is pretty cool anon

[Anonymous No.15915260]

>>15915086
Figure the next set of variants will be black dial/fluted bezel, and something like pic related (SARB037) or even just a gold dial.

I'm probably going to grab one, SARB035 is/was my first automatic and I still love it.

[Anonymous No.15915264]

>>15915214
whys the 8 red

[Anonymous No.15915272]

>>15915037
Mt. Hebrews: $750
Chinks: 99 dorra

[Anonymous No.15915283]

>>15915154
>Any non-passé Explorer alternatives?
Blancpain 5100 1130
Formex essence 39

[Anonymous No.15915286]

>>15915214
Thinkpad carbon? I have the same. Also what's so special about 8 o'clock?

[Anonymous No.15915311]

>>15915258
thanks anon. I like the vanilla version as well but I wanted something a little more out-there
>>15915264
it's a Beams 40th Anniversary model, 40 minutes on the minute track = 8. That and if they made the 4 orange it'd crowd the date window.
>>15915286
I wish, it's a humble x250 I bought for uni work. I spend all my money on dumb shit like watches, nothing left over for hi-tier thinkpads.

[Anonymous No.15915344]

>>15915311
chronograph next. but no time soon, need to SLOW THE FUCK DOWN SON

[Anonymous No.15915346]

>>15915154
Habring2 Erwin or jumping second pilot (pic)

[Anonymous No.15915370]

>>15915106
Middle would be mine, but just don't do #3.

[Anonymous No.15915404]

>>15915125
Currently reading The White Spider by Heinrich Harrer but it's an e-book.

[Anonymous No.15915407]

>>15915404
>ebook

[Anonymous No.15915408]

>>15915161
wow ugly watch congrats

[Anonymous No.15915413]

I JUST WANT MY AUTAVIA BACK. WHAT ARE YOU MOUNTAIN JEWS DOING OVER THERE?

[Anonymous No.15915422]

>>15915413
probably wearing it around town having a gr9 time at your expense anon
just a service? how many alpine shekels is it setting you back

[Anonymous No.15915424]

Could use some help here, I usually go with a square vintage Baume & Mercier (similar to picrel but wholly yellow gold) for informal occasions and a vintage round Vacheron Constantin (yellow gold on white background, looks like a modern Patrimony) for pretty much everything else.
I don't need (nor like) chronographs but I've been told to "ease off", I have no idea what to wear. I feel naked without a watch and the only other one I have is more of a scuba-diving computer than a watch, very unsightly.
I mostly wear suits but occasionally polos and jeans too, rarely in bright colours, mostly in the black to dark-earth zone. Any ideas? Oh no metal wristbands please, I hate them.

[Anonymous No.15915426]

>>15915422
Yes, just a movement service. They told me like 6 months ago so I can't remember the exact price. Right around $800 I think

[Anonymous No.15915427]

>>15915424
Just cut off your cock and strap it on your forehead.

[Anonymous No.15915430]

>>15915427
That's not very polite.

[Anonymous No.15915431]

>>15915089
>san martin has better hand finishing than Rolex
Oh no no no rolexbros...

[Anonymous No.15915433]

>>15915431
Another reason to get the San Martin Sellita Datejust

[Anonymous No.15915462]

>>15915023
Biggest cope post. Weeb faggots whipping out the microscope to look at their watch hands

[Anonymous No.15915473]

>>15915424
What on earth does “ease off” mean in this context? You need to wear something less formal? JLC is the answer, Master Ultra Thin Moon or if that is too dressy a Master Ultra Thin Calendar. Buy used.

[Anonymous No.15915482]

>>15915462
ok, no that anon but I'm game. how is it a cope to compare watches within the same price range only to discover the finishing on the swiss offerings is poorer.

[Anonymous No.15915498]

Does anyone know anything about this movement? "7750 clone" isn't good enough for me. I don't know anything about the company or the movement and it seems like no one discusses either.

[Anonymous No.15915503]

>>15915498
Sinn is a based tool watch maker

[Anonymous No.15915508]

>>15915498
Concepto is a smaller swiss movement manufacturer, stemming from the older, more renowned La Joux Perret SA

[Anonymous No.15915509]

>>15915161
nice try, but only grannies know AP or slappers who are after your money

[Anonymous No.15915521]

Question

Most watches with a date function say not to adjust it when the watch reads between 9pm and ~2am. However the watch doesnt indicate am/pm.

Im guessing I adjust the time untill the date wheel rolls over, then advance it 12 hours, so it will be somewhere between 9am and ~2pm, then I can adjust the day/date?

[Anonymous No.15915529]

>>15915482
It’s grasping at straws. Can’t compete on design, heritage, looks, soul, coolness, etc. so you have to look at the hands at like 25x magnification. Even worse this we can’t even be sure that those photos are actually of a real Omega or Rolex watch so AT BEST it’s anecdotal and at worst it’s a straight up fraud lie

As I said, biggest cope post

[Anonymous No.15915535]

>>15915473
Those wouldn't get me off the hook, the one in picrel should though, it'd also give me less conventional options colour-wise. An idea to start with, thanks.

[Anonymous No.15915549]

>>15915521
I don't no if there is an official way, but I adjust the hands until it is between 3 and 9. Then I adjust it to the date of yesterday, and then turn forward to the actual time.

[Anonymous No.15915557]

>>15915521
Yeah you got it. Let’s say your watch stopped at 8:00. You can’t be sure whether it was 8am or 8pm (potentially in the “danger zone” depending on the movement), so you should turn the date over once and then set the time to the proper current time. Then, if the date is still wrong, set the date independently.

[Anonymous No.15915615]

>>15915557
Alrighty, thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.15915651]

>>15915615
I meant *turn the date over manually by setting the hands instead of the quick set function* just in case that wasn’t clear.

[Anonymous No.15915662]

>>15915433
>Another reason to get the San Martin Sellita Datejust
Someday they will make a 36mm version and i will buy 5.

[Anonymous No.15915663]

>Rolex has a 10-year service interval
The fuck? Is this actually true? Do any other brands advertise a long service interval?

[Anonymous No.15915666]

>>15915663
Oris does with it's new in-house designed caliber. This was kinda the point of the Co-Axial but its not the case for the Omega variants.

[Anonymous No.15915668]

>>15915663
>falling for the service meme

[Anonymous No.15915678]

>>15915663
You can push most watches to 10 years without any real problem. The only time I wouldn’t do it would be for a chronograph that gets used a lot, a high beat watch, or something very complicated like an annual calendar.

[Anonymous No.15915690]

>>15915663
vostok amfibias do

[Anonymous No.15915694]

>>15915690
based

[Anonymous No.15915712]

>>15915663
Oris does.
Earlier, Brands were proud how long their watches were running.
Now they realized that they could milk people for service, so they started to make more in-house movements and fear-bullied people into forking over cash every 5 years.

[Anonymous No.15915716]

>>15915663
service intervals are a scam
there are 20 year old seiko5s still running

[Anonymous No.15915721]

>>15915690
Do you have to ship them to russia for service? how common are parts in NA

[Anonymous No.15915728]

>>15915716
I have a 52 year old watch that’s never been serviced and keeps perfectly accurate time. So service intervals are a mere. That said, once covid restrictions are lessened I’ll probably get it looked at because I can tell the rotor is jangling around a bit.

Doesn’t servicing kill collectors’ value of watches since they replace parts and polish the watch and shit?

[Anonymous No.15915729]

>>15915721
you just spend $50 on another vostok, anon

[Anonymous No.15915756]

I been lurking these generals for a while
Not a single watch posted is worth its price, where is the value? The deals?

[Anonymous No.15915759]

>>15915756
If you just want the cheapest possible piece that tells the time get an F91W or an MQ-24.

[Anonymous No.15915769]

>>15915729
Forgive me for sounding like a vegan or a schizo, but I always buy things to last. When I buy a car, I make sure its not only reliable, but popular, so there will always be parts available to keep it going if it ends up staying with me for 20 years.

I know its autistic, but I would rather keep a $250 watch that costs $250 every 5 years to service than buy a new one every 5 years

[Anonymous No.15915774]

>>15915769
Normally yes, but vostoks are getting into diminishing returns at their pricepoint if you pay for services

That said, a Vostok is probably fine if you never get it serviced

[Anonymous No.15915783]

>>15915106
the islander will likely have the best bracelet, if thats of any importance to you

but the middle has the most character

[Anonymous No.15915790]

>>15915783
Good point

[Anonymous No.15915791]

Order is importance:
1. Price
2. Material
3. Mechanism/engineering
4. Brandname
5. Customer service

[Anonymous No.15915796]

>>15915756
It’s not about value anon. It’s about snobbery. The snobbery is the fun.

[Anonymous No.15915800]

>>15915756
if you want value get an orient kamasu, ideally from grey vendors like jomashop so theres even more discount

>hacking
>handwind
>sapphire
>200wr
>fully inhouse (kinda)
>under $200

[Anonymous No.15915810]

>>15915756
im gonna COOOOOOOOOM

[Anonymous No.15915826]

>>15915344
That GS fucks

[Anonymous No.15915828]

>>15915791
Who cares about customer service? If your 300k watch breaks just buy another one.

[Anonymous No.15915829]

>>15915012
>Spend $10k on a watch
>super divisive, half of people call you spoiled, quarter nitpick about specific choices, others totally oblivious
>fair chance it gets beaten up or stolen

OR
>Spend $10 on a watch
>Laugh when people point it out
>Amusing conversation piece if anyone notices
>Can always point out it was $10 for amusement
>Give zero shits if it gets knocked around
>No one will be pissed off or jealous you got it
>Some will admire

[Anonymous No.15915831]

>>15915106
Citizen eco drive is a no brainer

[Anonymous No.15915834]

>>15915344
>original 6217
Very nice.

[Anonymous No.15915835]

>>15915831
>>15915106
Yeah I'm team ecodrive

[Anonymous No.15915836]

>>15915829
>$10
thats a $50 watch

[Anonymous No.15915838]

Thoughts on the Heuer Calibre 02?

It's licensed from Seiko (6S movement) that Tag makes in-house.

[Anonymous No.15915841]

>>15915829
Insecure noguns cantfight McPleb detected.

[Anonymous No.15915842]

>>15915829
Divisive is effay.

[Anonymous No.15915846]

>>15915826
thanks bro, I wanted a modern fully mechanical GS that wasn't fuck-u expensive and it ticks all the boxes. got combat-straps making a custom one in the works, it's a little unorthodox but ill post it when it arrives. I expect to get roasted.
>>15915834
Yeah I'm really lucky I got it for what I did when I did. It was 1300usd about 4 years ago and wasn't running (but the hands/dial were in very good shape) couldn't afford to buy one for what they are going for now.

[Anonymous No.15915848]

>>15915728
>oesn’t servicing kill collectors’ value of watches since they replace parts and polish the watch and shit?

replacing of needed internal parts is fine
replacing crystal is fine but only if 100% necessary
replacing lume affects value
touchup of dial affects value
polishing wrecks value
replacing hands wrecks value
painting the dial destroys value

if im going to buy a vintage watch I want it to be 100% WABI SABI

[Anonymous No.15915850]

>>15915846
>custom strap
goddamnit my grammar has been a train-wreck recently.

[Anonymous No.15915851]

>>15915846
Yea 1300 is an absolute steal compared to what they're going for now.

[Anonymous No.15915861]

>>15915846
>combat-straps
Aaron does make pretty good straps (pic related). Gonna get alligator?

[Anonymous No.15915868]

>>15915769
vostoks have simple movements so its not difficult to service them
you could even do it yourself if your autism level is high enough

[Anonymous No.15915884]

>>15915848
What about cleaning of dial without doing any touch ups?

[Anonymous No.15915885]

>>15915861
I like that, but no. I'm going a bit weird, grey ostrich cape-cod double wrap with red edges and stitching
ppl are gonna fucking hate it. picrel is the actual piece of ostrich leather he's making it from

[Anonymous No.15915888]

>>15915885
Sounds interesting, be sure to post pics once you get it anon.

[Anonymous No.15915890]

>>15915800
Didn't know they made a green guy. Orient offers a lot of bang-for-buck in the entry level mechanical game.

[Anonymous No.15915891]

>>15915836
$25 nigga and that's not on sale. got mine for $11.50

[Anonymous No.15915896]

>>15915884
>cleaning
just no
ebay is full of shitters nobody wants to buy because some smartguy decided to clean the dial but end up ruining them
just blow off dust with a air ball and dont touch anything else

[Anonymous No.15915902]

>>15915896
Yeah that’s basically what I meant. Lightly cleaning accumulated dust.

And what about polishing the crystal with something like polywatch?

[Anonymous No.15915908]

>>15915888
will do
>>15915890
cool watch anon. not keen on the decor but

[Anonymous No.15915928]

>>15915902
for me personally thats fine
i mean...you cant enjoy the PATINA if the crystal is all scratched to shit, right?

but it depends
if you have those vintage watches with faceted crystals its not possible to polish them/ high chance of ruining it and buyers 100% expect scratches on them anyway
another route would be replacement of the crystal but also keeping the original one
basically sellers want the watch to be as untouched as possible with as many parts as *possible* (box, papers, bracelet, even strap) and they themselves make the decision on what to restore with their own trusted watchmaker

[Anonymous No.15915930]

>>15915928
buyers*

[Anonymous No.15915960]

recommend a watch for me

[Anonymous No.15915983]

>>15915960
Fitbit

[Anonymous No.15915988]

>>15915928
Thx anon. I'm never going to sell this particular watch but still don't want to do anything to it that would ruin it in the eyes of a collector, y'know?

[Anonymous No.15915992]

>>15915759
MQ-24 gang rise up

[Anonymous No.15915997]

>>15915960
Apple Watch (the newest one)

[Anonymous No.15916000]

>>15915960
Check out vincero watches

[Anonymous No.15916035]

If I had to wear one watch for the rest of my life, this would be it.

[Anonymous No.15916060]

>>15915012
Weekender is dope

[Anonymous No.15916063]

>>15916035
Despite impeccable finish and a solid movement, it's just gaudy and fruity looking. To each their own.

[Anonymous No.15916079]

>>15916035
>$100,000
you can buy 320 italian homages for $100000

[Anonymous No.15916082]

>>15916063

I disagree. I think it shows retained elegance and maturity. This is a watch of a CEO of a large Fortune 500.

[Anonymous No.15916096]

>>15915890
Nice wife lmao

[Anonymous No.15916098]

>>15915800
I really wish they made a red dial kamasu that had a matching bezel

[Anonymous No.15916105]

Which one will stand the test of time /fa/?

[Anonymous No.15916109]

>>15916098
MAHHK from long island sells custom bezels for the kamasuuu and you can get custom bezels from wherever to fit in them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGYRbnt-JJU

[Anonymous No.15916115]

>>15916105
Why are kids and retards allowed in this hobby?

[Anonymous No.15916121]

>>15914735
RZE Endeavour
very nicely angular titanium diver
solid end links solid links milled clasp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IrR52gKb40

>>15916105
5600

[Anonymous No.15916126]

>>15916115

>hobby

KYS


>>15916121
>5600

Thanks, fren. That's what I suspected.

[fag No.15916136]

>>15916060
Full lume dials are the shit, pic related

Also finally ponied up and bought a 41mm sea master professional. Shame I won’t see it for almost another month.

[Anonymous No.15916135]

>>15916121
If you're the one who recommended the San Martin whirlpool diver--thanks. I've been on the hunt for a diver with a bold design. Too many of these companies, microshit or establishment, recycle old designs or take design cues from other companies. Homages are boring. Entirely new designs are fun to look at. I love this, I'm getting it. Thanks, based shitter connoisseur-sama

[Anonymous No.15916142]

>>15916115
reddit pls go

[Anonymous No.15916144]

>>15916136
Loom gang represent

[Anonymous No.15916147]

>>15916144
why does it have 2 second hands?

[Anonymous No.15916149]

>>15915012
I can never get over the island logo so I'll never buy any of them.

>put on a watch logo on a watch

It's so redundant.

[Anonymous No.15916154]

>>15915960
I really dislike rainbow/chromatic colors is now stolen by the degens.

[Anonymous No.15916157]

>>15915106
Depends on how much you want to try automatic. Personally it's between 1 and 3 for me. Radio-controlled eco-drive sounds amazing in terms of just accuracy and never needing to think about batteries, but I am a real sucker for automatic, so personally I'd likely choose the third.

[Anonymous No.15916171]

[Anonymous No.15916177]

>>15916154
it doesnt bother me *that* much but its def a consideration

[Anonymous No.15916186]

>>15916079
you should bang your head against the pile of homages until you die.

[Anonymous No.15916191]

>>15916079
>>15916186
I prefer this one. I don't think it's an homage to anything.

[Anonymous No.15916192]

>>15916186
thy seethe and cope
a reminder that most watches are homages to some degree
most iterations have already been explored in wristwatches
even the swiss brands homage each other and even themselves
why do you think they do not want to pursue any legal challenges to homaging, its a giant can of worms not even rolex will touch

[Anonymous No.15916207]

Gonna buy me one of these badboys with my AMC gains next week.

[Anonymous No.15916214]

>>15915012
Why does he call this very sporty watch a dress watch?

[Anonymous No.15916216]

>>15916214
hes american

[Anonymous No.15916266]

>>15915424
>I've been told to "ease off"
can't think of a more sophisticated way of doing so than wearing a white gold, blue dial Midas Cellini on your right wrist

[Anonymous No.15916293]

>>15915012
Any idea what watch this is?

[Anonymous No.15916295]

>>15915012
That logo is disturbingly awful

[Anonymous No.15916299]

>>15916293
Looks interesting

[Anonymous No.15916301]

>>15915838
Love it personally, but fags gonna fag. Wish I had the money for one of the new Carreras with it.

[Anonymous No.15916305]

>>15916293

[Anonymous No.15916307]

Yeah, I'm out guys. Unfortunately I'm too poor to discuss things with most of people who are in these threads now, and they tend to have a really shitty attitude, so I don't want to acknowledge their existence in the first place.

Another hobby fucked up by shitty people with more money than taste. Good luck and have fun.

[Anonymous No.15916312]

>>15916305
why would a billionaire choose a mallshitter like this?

[Anonymous No.15916313]

>>15916312
He had ascended past us mere plebians

[Anonymous No.15916316]

>>15916307
I'm sorry that you feel this way anon. I hope for the betterment of your circumstances, and I ask your forgiveness if I may have offended you during your time on /wt/.

[Anonymous No.15916319]

>>15916307
>complain and whine about others having some money
>disregard suggestions on how to make money
>dismiss and look down on buying homages even though they are *made* for people on a budget
>totally ignore my offer of a free entry level watch (im not that rich myself)
>constantly bait the thread on class and status issues

(You)

[Anonymous No.15916324]

>>15915125
I think I started this like 6 years ago

[Anonymous No.15916331]

>>15916035
Why would anyone choose the steel 5711A over this?! I don't normally like gold watches but that makes my pp erect.

[Anonymous No.15916340]

>>15916035
>>15916331
because steel costs 10k and that probably shoots up 25k

waste of money

[Anonymous No.15916341]

>>15916312
https://www.chrono24.com/andersengenve/eros-presidents-pleasure--id17300918.htm
/wt/ (and to a bigger extent /pol/, but being part jewish I hold no love for them) might find it and its symbolism interesting. Rumour on the market is it belonged to a billionaire, now dead and disgraced who gifted it to a close lady friend of his who's facing some legal and financial troubles rn.

[Anonymous No.15916403]

>>15916340
You really have no idea how much a Nautilus costs these days do you. both the 5711a and 5711r currently go for at least $100k on the grey market

[Anonymous No.15916422]

>>15916403
>waste of money
Sounds like I got it right.

[Anonymous No.15916424]

>>15916403
just imagine, you can buy 10(ten) GS snowflakes

[Anonymous No.15916426]

tfw the chinks can do sub dial spacing better than the swiss, and without placing cut numerals

[Anonymous No.15916436]

>>15916426
This reminded me of a question I wanted to ask.

Who makes the thinnest ST19 chronograph? Even the Airforce ones are like 15mm.

[Anonymous No.15916440]

I feel like I'd like a nice mechanical for dressier situations (watches are cool anyways), any recommendations based on this? If it can pull double duty for daily wear then the utilitarian features I identified are something to consider, but that's a secondary optional use case

>budget
realistically up to 4k maybe
>style
sports/diver I guess?
>movement
automatic? the original thought is this isn't primarily for daily wear so sacrificing some convenience for higher end options is anticipated
>features
I like a date/calendar feature (window is fine but like the wenger is pretty cool if busy) and a second timezone (either bezel or subdial)
>strap
steel bracelet preferred but leather ok
>size
wrists are are on the smaller size IMO. I prefer a large watch, but only whatever I can actually get away with

[Anonymous No.15916443]

>>15916426
>sub dial spacing
the parnis daytona is based on early rolex and its a reminder of how bloated the current daytona is

[Anonymous No.15916446]

>>15916426
Would look better if it just didn't have numerals (or a date window) at all to be honest.

[Anonymous No.15916448]

>>15916440
semenmaster

[Anonymous No.15916452]

Spend $500 on Seiko Presage and donate the rest to charity

[Anonymous No.15916453]

>>15916452
>charity
name one worth a damn

[Anonymous No.15916456]

>>15916452
to >>15916440

[Anonymous No.15916457]

>>15916440
https://ow-watch.ch/collections/main

[Anonymous No.15916458]

>>15916191
Laventure

[Anonymous No.15916463]

>>15916453
Big name ones are usually scams which pocket most your money.

Local food banks and shelters are more legit. Especially if they allow you to donate in food/supplies.

[Anonymous No.15916465]

>>15915012
Should I get a luxury wrist watch or should I invest in stocks?

[Anonymous No.15916467]

>>15916452
That dial is gorgeous. Where would you even get that for $500?

[Anonymous No.15916476]

>>15916465
Apart from a few exceptional pieces stocks always outperform watches.

[Anonymous No.15916477]

>>15916452
Too angular.

[Anonymous No.15916483]

>>15916452
>$500
that watch is $950

>>15916467
seiko presage cocktails are like $400+

[Anonymous No.15916485]

>>15916467
Seen it as low as $600-800 on ebay

[Anonymous No.15916486]

>>15916453
St. Vincent de Paul
Only charity I've volunteered with that it's run by volunteers, not staff. The paid people do what the democratically elected conference presidents tell them to, not the other way round and every single cent spent is thoroughly interrogated by said conferences.

[Anonymous No.15916487]

>>15916476
Yeah, I know. I'm not one of them spuds who thinks a watch is an investment. If I get a watch I full well understand it wont remotely be considered an investment

[Anonymous No.15916489]

>>15916485
So it is, though the one listing I see in the 600ish range is from singapore. Not sure how much trust I'd put into that.

[Anonymous No.15916493]

>>15916487
You can think of high end watches from certain brands as assets. Somewhere to park spare cash, you get to wear a nice watch for several years, then readily sell it at a later date if you need the money.

[Anonymous No.15916495]

>>15916489
well, outside of japan and maybe HK, singapore is the next seiko fanboy central

everyone here is either
A) rolex/omega crowd
B) hardcore seikohead
C) gshocks

[Anonymous No.15916496]

Can anyone think of a decent strap to go with a Nomos worldtime? I really like the watch but fuck me, the strap it comes with literally looks the the one you get with the £10 Nomos from China.

[Anonymous No.15916497]

>>15916495
>well, outside of japan and maybe HK, singapore is the next seiko fanboy central
That's reassuring. Maybe I'll pick that one up then.

[Anonymous No.15916501]

why are quartz watches superior for accurate timekeeping?

[Anonymous No.15916502]

>>15916496
brown ostrich
>>15916497
i guess look at ratings/reviews
yea there are shops devoted to doing 95% seiko stuff
citizen and orient barely get any love, its all seiko

[Anonymous No.15916503]

>>15916496
I've always noticed taupe straps looks good with nomos flat colors.

[Anonymous No.15916508]

>>15916501
A lot faster vibrations, so any vibration that goes kinda wonky is offset by a lot more other vibrations.

[Anonymous No.15916509]

>>15916501
lack of soul makes the watch less easily distracted

[Anonymous No.15916510]

>>15916501
Give this a watch first:
https://youtu.be/o8YUM2Y2vvY
Essentially due to the higher frequency any errors are comparatively much smaller than if it ran at a lower frequency.

[Anonymous No.15916511]

>>15916493
Yeah, I've had an overall positive experience with having watches as assets so far, kind of why I'm in the market for a luxury watch and not a mid tier one

[Anonymous No.15916513]

>>15916493
>>15916511

but then you kinda have to get the *popular models* and not the skydweller you really love

[Anonymous No.15916516]

R8 my dad’s taste

[Anonymous No.15916517]

>>15916516
Unsurprising boomer taste.

[Anonymous No.15916523]

>>15916513
Even skydwellers have been caught up in the recent Rolex hype. Something like 80% of all new Rolex models go for over list price on the grey market at the moment.

[Anonymous No.15916542]

I own two Omegas and a Tudor and yet this is my favourite watch. I was thrown in free with the full lume version and was fucked as the second hand was hardly moving and it was dusty on the inside.
I’ve replaced the movement with a brand new one and now I love it the most. Repairing it has made me more attached. I recommend trying this if you find yourself unable to connect with any watches.

[Anonymous No.15916551]

>>15916501
Magnets, probably

[Anonymous No.15916563]

>>15916486
I've seen the thrift stores, never really thought anything of it.

[Anonymous No.15916564]

>>15916501
Because the digits have spaketh

[Anonymous No.15916569]

Any chinks make a good lorier/baltic/retro style diver?

[Anonymous No.15916576]

>>15916569
yes but its at a price that you might as well buy lorier or baltic

otherwise san martin makes a lot of very affordable vintage homages
>>15915810

[Anonymous No.15916578]

>>15915529
Anon you forgot to mention that swiss watches are entirely handmade, the japanese cut their shit with lazurs and stuff. no disrespect to seiko of course, great value brand. But it can't really compare.

[Anonymous No.15916580]

>>15916578
You actually believe that crap? Outside of extremely high end brands, of which Rolex and Omega are not part. Watch parts are just enough made in switzerland to get the marking on the dial. ETA movements are made on a highly automated assembly line. You fell for age old marketing hook line and sinker.

[Anonymous No.15916581]

>>15916578
>swiss watches are entirely handmade
lololololololo

[Anonymous No.15916582]

>>15916563
I don't know where you are so I can't say specifically what they do in you're area but here in Melbourne those thrift stores pay for the services they offer (though the thrift store manager is paid because it's full time) and it ranges from stuff like Soup Van/Food Deliveries to the homeless or underprivileged, reimbursements of school supplies (and in some cases fees) for broke families, temporary accommodation and the list goes on.
It's great organisation ngl.

[Anonymous No.15916588]

>>15916580
It doesn't even have to be made in switzerland even. They changed the terms so "research and design" costs also count to the 60% spent for you to slap swiss made.

[Anonymous No.15916594]

>>15916588
Really? Kek, Swiss tards really are delusional

[Anonymous No.15916595]

>>15916580
i think he was joking

[Anonymous No.15916600]

>>15916578
>You know, I have one simple request, and that is to have watches made with frickin' laser beams!
>Now evidently my mountain jew colleague informs me that that cannot be done. Ah, would you remind me what I pay you people for, honestly? Throw me a bone here! What do we have?
>ETA movements.
>(pause) Riiiight.
>They're assembly line movements.
>Are they ill tempered?
>Absolutely.

[Anonymous No.15916601]

>>15916595
Ah, I see that now, I'm a filthy phone poster so I wasn't reading very in depth.

[Anonymous No.15916603]

>>15916578
False. The Zaratsu polish on higher end Seikos is handmade.

[Anonymous No.15916615]

>So what is the 6270? It's arguably the most expensive Daytona ever made by Rolex. It is solid 18k yellow gold, the dial is pavé diamond-set, the numerals are sapphires, the bezel is set with baguette diamonds, and oh, the sub-registers? Yeah, they're purple! Only eight pieces were produced, all for his Majesty Qaboos Bin Said of Oman, and the last time one came up for sale, it brought about a milly.

>There were only eight of these watches produced, and the market knows where five of them are. Two of them, of course, are right here. Now this watch is not for everyone, certainly, but these 1980s watches are very special no matter how you look at that.

>They are absolutely the type of watch that you would imagine being commissioned by the Omani royal family, and to Alfredo, they far surpass the steel watches made for Oman in terms of style and importance. Look at that dial!


Price realised
CHF 905,000 ($1,010,168)
Estimate
CHF 460,000 - CHF 800,000

[Anonymous No.15916619]

>>15916615

[Anonymous No.15916643]

>>15916440
If you genuinely like the modern Airking then you may be legitimately retarded. the rest of your "liked" watches are pretty based though. You seem you like really toolish watches .

the Oris aquis GMT may be a good shout
Sinn 856 UTC
Damasko DA46 - Does the day date function really well whilst retaining visability

[Anonymous No.15916658]

>>15915529
>Can’t compete on heritage
Omega 1848
Seiko 1881
Rolex 1905

[Anonymous No.15916669]

>>15916564
oh shit, that's all the evidence I need. Thanks fren

[Anonymous No.15916671]

>>15916619
this screams, 'i have 4 gallons of semen up my ass'

[Anonymous No.15916687]

>>15916671
It mostly screams sand nigger that fucks little boys but whatever

[Anonymous No.15916694]

>>15916687
Giver, receiver. Either, either.

[Anonymous No.15916702]

>>15916671
Thank you.
That's exactly the look I'm going for at my gym.
Everyone always thinks I'm straight but I crave dick.
If I wear this, the men will start showing me their hard pricks?

[Anonymous No.15916709]

>>15916619

[Anonymous No.15916712]

>>15916709
What watch would Kramer wear? I'm thinking Casio.

[Anonymous No.15916756]

tfw you lose your $30 bergeron spring bar tool

[Anonymous No.15916759]

>>15916576
I would get a baltic but that movement is ass

[Anonymous No.15916784]

>>15916759
>that movement is ass

>look it up
>its a MIYOTA 9039

?? this is equivalent to base ETA and hi-beat

[Anonymous No.15916788]

>>15916426
I'm actually kind of stoked to get my $99 NH35 Chinesium flieger. I don't care how someone feels about shitters, it's crazy value at that price.

[Anonymous No.15916795]

>>15916784
Noisy, rattley and +- 30 seconds a day. Better with a nh3x shitter.
Literally look at any of the reviews

[Anonymous No.15916798]

>>15916788
>dat crown
>the brushing
>the hands

very nice
thats crazy value
an NH itself is already like $40

[Anonymous No.15916799]

>>15916795
>implying nh3x isnt rattly as well
my seiko5 rotor sounds like a broken screw tumbling around in a can when i shake the watch

its a feature not a bug

[Anonymous No.15916800]

>>15916798
Precisely. I bet the same factory puts out watches for a lot of domestic microbrand watch companies. Those companies turn around and sell the same thing (or lesser quality) for $300 to $600. Insane pricing for a watch with 316L brushed case, retro crown, sapphire glass, NH35 movement and a legit sterile flieger dial. Should be a top shelf beater.

[Anonymous No.15916802]

>>15916799
Not all NH3x watches are created equal apparently. I've got an SNK in the same boat as yours, sounds like BBs floating around in there. I've got a couple microbrand NH35 watches which barely make a noise and have a near silent rotor.

[Anonymous No.15916806]

>>15916788
I wonder how many anons ordered one, I know I ordered an A dial.

[Anonymous No.15916810]

>>15916788
Why is the strap ORANGE?

[Anonymous No.15916811]

>>15916810
The inside is orange

[Anonymous No.15916821]

>>15916788
Gotta love the Chinese for revealing all the swiss buzzwords for jacking up prices like manufacture, blued hands, 316L/916L, ceramics, sapphire, tourbillon mean absolutely nothing and they can sell you $300 watches with the same things lmao.

[Anonymous No.15916824]

>>15916821
The strap looks really nice too.
As long as the quality is good it seems like the king of chink fliegers.

[Anonymous No.15916825]

>>15915090
I'm actually interning in the /g/ area, but I like that this watch checks my boxes, and I wish another brand would make something like this.

[Anonymous No.15916828]

>>15916821
This kinda holds true for something like Rolex, which is almost entirely machine made and finished, but absolutely not for actual HH.

[Anonymous No.15916830]

>>15916824
Meant for
>>15916788

[Anonymous No.15916831]

White dial orange lume or cream dial orange lume?

[Anonymous No.15916834]

>>15916825
Have you seen the Traska commuter?

[Anonymous No.15916835]

>>15916831
White dial looks too clean and out of place imo. Almost like the lume aged but the dial didn't I'd go with cream.

But I like the pale grey the best personally.

[Anonymous No.15916836]

>>15916831
Cream, but i would rather have white dial white lume or black dial white lume.

[Anonymous No.15916837]

>>15916836
The red 12 is pretty fetching

[Anonymous No.15916838]

>>15916834
But the question with the traska is if it's worth an extra $200 for better case finishing instead of the full polish of the islander.

[Anonymous No.15916839]

>>15916831
the obvious choice is cream, but that choice feels too obvious, if you know what I mean

[Anonymous No.15916840]

Ok /wt/, what is THE BEST modern Omega Sneedmaster reference? With so many variants and limited editions there are a lot to choose from.

My pick: the 50th anniversary Silver Snoopy edition. My reasoning (in no particular order):
>blue panda-ish dial
>sapphire crystal with no “white halo” effect
>ceramic bezel insert
>beautiful solid silver dial; will develop a pretty patina with time
>stepped dial effect
>dot over 90
>applied logo and indices
>gorgeous dial typography; perfectly proportioned Omega marquee with the words “Speedmaster” and “professional”; best sub-dial font
>laser ablated Snoopy; doesn’t take itself too seriously
>perfect case back. Some people might call it a gimmick but I think it’s so creative and genuinely awe inspiring, much more so than a display case back
>master chronometer certified movement
>co-axial escapement
>unique case shape that is different from every other Speedmaster; makes it special
>amazing history that represents perhaps the greatest ever real-world achievement for a mechanical watch

[Anonymous No.15916842]

>>15916837
Yeah the red 12 is a nice detail that makes the dial more exciting without being too loud.

[Anonymous No.15916843]

>>15916821
They aren't buzzwords, they are specifications. Would you prefer to not know the type of metal the case is constructed of, the type of crystal or the type of movement?

[Anonymous No.15916845]

>>15916821
Nah what they've proven is that the swiss premium is baloney.

[Anonymous No.15916846]

>>15916840
The speedy ultraman edition. But that is 100% based on looks and not technical details.

[Anonymous No.15916847]

>>15916806
Probably more than a few. My A dial is currently awaiting customs clearance.

>>15916810
No idea. I plan on replacing it as I've already got some spare 20mm leather/flieger straps collecting dust. Unless it is really good, which I'm betting it's not.

>>15916824
>>15916830
I'm not holding my breath on the strap, but it does look more solid than a lot of OEM leather straps on budget watches. I doubt it's anything real nice, probably generic "genuine leather."

[Anonymous No.15916848]

>>15916840
All speedmasters are reddit and plebtrap tier.

Except the mark 2 and smp reduced. You know those were deliberate personal choices.

[Anonymous No.15916849]

>>15916848
I like the Mark II a lot; would probably be my choice if they updated the movement.

[Anonymous No.15916854]

>>15916848
Speedmasters would be tempting at 1/4 the asking price. The specs are very mediocre.

>>15916846
One of the better looking speedmasters I've seen.

[Anonymous No.15916867]

>>15916798
>>15916800
Is this really supposed to be impressive? I mean, if you're wearing a retro flieger, why wouldn't you get a real one like IWC? What's the point of that style in the China copy version when it's a LARP style that basically hinges on the brand in the first place?

[Anonymous No.15916871]

>>15916867
Why would I get a modern IWC instead of a actually nazi watch? No difference between buying modern swiss and chink.

[Anonymous No.15916873]

>as you can see it wears comfortably on my 16cm circumference wrist and I can recommend this watch for up to 13cm in circumference

[Anonymous No.15916874]

>>15916871
>No difference between buying modern swiss and chink.
Except things like materials, processes, actual craftsmanship skill, and QC.

Enjoy your watch falling apart in two years.

[Anonymous No.15916876]

>>15916867
>IWC
>Real one
Literally retarded. At that point you are arguing "the brand name on the watch is the only thing that matters." Don't be a retard, I don't wear the watch for someone else to be impressed with. I wear it because I like the style. The specs alone warrant a price well above $99. IWC is trash these days.

[Anonymous No.15916877]

>>15916873
Nah, for that particular watch he recommended a minimum wrist of 17cm.
He admitted his wrist was too small for it.

[Anonymous No.15916878]

>>15916874
The parts in your "swiss" watch were made in china.

[Anonymous No.15916879]

>>15916874
IWC is made in China these days you fucking dolt. Keep up with the news. IWC is not the IWC of old, just a bunch of fucks riding off of the 3 letters they get to print on dials.

[Anonymous No.15916883]

>>15916867
>a real one like IWC?

this is the kind of finishing that IWC sells at $7500

[Anonymous No.15916884]

>>15916878
>>15916879

1) depends on what "Swiss" watch.
Brands like Vacheron, Patek, and independents all have workshops you can visit and see the watch being made from scratch.

2) craftsmanship and QC alone can produce good watches from inconsistent source parts.

[Anonymous No.15916885]

>>15916867
>a LARP style that basically hinges on the brand
I think you're extremely wrong about that, it's a mass produced government checklist design meant to be made in several factories and used interchangeably.

[Anonymous No.15916889]

>>15916883
No bro, it's totally luxury and has a heritage stretching way back. It was totally worth the thousands I paid. It's totally the same company that was making fliegers in WW2. IT'S SWISS FUCKING MADE. YOU CAN'T ENJOY A $100 WATCH YOU FUCKING PEASANT.

[Anonymous No.15916894]

>>15916883
Are you referring to the accumulated crud as "finishing"?

[Anonymous No.15916895]

>>15916884
I'm talking about IWC specifically. There was a bunch of drama not long ago because they are literally being made in China. IWC is not anywhere near the same level as Patek, Vacheron and many other legitimate luxury watch makers.

[Anonymous No.15916899]

>>15916895
>I'm talking about IWC specifically.
The post I was replying to wasn't: >>15916871
>No difference between buying modern swiss and chink.

[Anonymous No.15916901]

>>15916894
if you ignore the crud/dust you can see the mold lines that would normally have been polished away as part of the finishing process for 99.9% of watches

but then IWC sells this as "vintage inspired" bronze thingamajig so..........i guess its like factory distressed jeans? unfinished hems? idk

[Anonymous No.15916907]

>>15916899
My B.

[Anonymous No.15916910]

>>15916885
This. A flieger or retro military field watch is not a Speedmaster or Rolex Sub or anything similar, it's a set of specs meant to be manufactured by the lowest bidders across the country. Not a single manufacturer adheres to the original spec in 2021 as it is outdated and many of the parts are vaporware these days. A flieger is all about design, style and utility, not manufacturer.

[Anonymous No.15916914]

>>15916910
Not to mention that we're not strapping 55mm fleigers to our wrists as they were.

[Anonymous No.15916915]

>>15916831
Cream and orange pulls off the vintage look far better in my book. Like other anon, I'd probably prefer white on white but they all look pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.15916917]

>>15915058
Looks way better than that Islander all around. Plus the Islander logo looks like a 5 year old made it.

[Anonymous No.15916934]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALUEpQV3v0A

What watch fits this aesthetic?

[Anonymous No.15916935]

>enter watch thread
>90% of the thread is poorfags arguing the merit of literal cheap Chink garbage
Yeah I’m out

[Anonymous No.15916936]

>>15916876
>At that point you are arguing "the brand name on the watch is the only thing that matters."
Not only, but the main thing, yeah. And even then it's mostly because it shows what the watch actually is. You're free to find me a Chinese or noname brand watch that's exactly the same in finishing and other factors as a real luxury watch and costs 10 times less, I'll buy it right now.

[Anonymous No.15916940]

>>15916935
You really are masterful in switching between complaining thst people have money and complaining about poorfags. You had these dummies going for the entire thread yesterday.

[Anonymous No.15916944]

>>15916934
the rattiest cheapest timex on walmart clearance

[Anonymous No.15916945]

>>15916935
Good, go fuck yourself

[Anonymous No.15916964]

>>15915890
That's an eyesore desu

[Anonymous No.15916968]

>>15915890
BASED and snek pilled

[Anonymous No.15916969]

>>15916935
Poorfags cope by aggressively attacking Swiss made and touting Chink made.
Wristlets cope by aggressively attacking >38mm and touting 36mm watches.

[Anonymous No.15916970]

>>15915960
Definitely Apple watch

[Anonymous No.15916976]

>>15915058
Biting a little too hard on the Rolex aesthetic for my liking but seems like a good deal. Right size, right materials and a movement you usually don't see in budget microbrand homages.

[Anonymous No.15916981]

>>15916969
Richfags cope by not thinking 99.99% of the planet couldn't care less what watch they are wearing.

Fatlets cope thinking their big watch makes up for the fact their belly covers their pp.

[Anonymous No.15916982]

>>15916096
Yes she is.

>>15916964
Pure utility. The fieldwork portion of my job takes me to a lot of secure .gov, .mil and industrial areas where phones and other handheld electronics are not allowed. Between the chrono, the multiplication/division and conversion capabilities of the slide rule bezel that SNA411P1 has proven to be very useful. She's a fugly bitch though, no bones about it.

[Anonymous No.15916984]

>>15916981
Poorfags cope by fantasizing about how richfags cope by fantasizing about how people care about their expensive watches.

Wristlets cope by thinking only fat people have wrists larger than 15cm (6").

[Anonymous No.15916986]

>>15916969
and luxuryfags cope by aggressively attacking any sincere appreciation of a watch that cost less than what they invested. It's a circle of delusion on all fronts.

[Anonymous No.15916991]

""swiss made""

[Anonymous No.15916992]

>>15916984
Weak comeback. Needs work. Not impressed enough to refute.

[Anonymous No.15916994]

>>15916986
>and luxuryfags cope by aggressively attacking any sincere appreciation of a watch that cost less than what they invested
This is headcanon.

[Anonymous No.15916999]

>>15916936
That's retarded, you're not going to find it. That $99 NH35 watch will keep time just fine and provides a true flieger aesthetic. That's all a lot of people care about. If you care about high end luxury movement and finish in a simple flieger than obviously look elsewhere. I won't buy a chink watch, but personally find high end finishes and work on a simple retro field watch to be retarded. Save that shit for luxury dress, chrono or dive watches. Field/flieger watches are meant to be abused.

[Anonymous No.15917021]

>>15915125
Someone post his Laco and a typical German artist book

[Anonymous No.15917027]

>>15916982
>where phones and other handheld electronics are not allowed.
What about quartz watches?

[Anonymous No.15917052]

Not a watch but the nixie tube clock I was asking you guys about a couple months ago showed up from Ukraine today. Pictures don't do that tube glow justice.

[Anonymous No.15917062]

>>15917027
Obviously allowed. Can't smuggle data on them. DOD does not fuck around with opsec. Accidentally brought my phone to one of the job sites once and when it started ringing you would have thought I had an IED strapped to my chest the way they reacted.

[Anonymous No.15917067]

>>15917062
>he doesn't have an sd card hidden inside the caseback of his watch
Lame

[Anonymous No.15917072]

>>15917052
Wow, that looks very nice. Does it have an alarm or just a clock? How do you set it?

[Anonymous No.15917077]

>>15917072
It's just a clock, there's three buttons on the back, along with the power port. It does a cool slot machine effect at minute change to help prevent cathode poisoning too.

[Anonymous No.15917094]

>>15917077
>It does a cool slot machine effect at minute change to help prevent cathode poisoning too.
You mean it cycles through everything? That's really neat if so.

[Anonymous No.15917101]

>>15917094
Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKoJXjAHMLs

[Anonymous No.15917123]

>>15917077
>cathode poisoning
Uhh.. what? Can it kill you?

[Anonymous No.15917124]

>>15917123
Yeah.

[Anonymous No.15917132]

that will be 25000 dollars pal

[Anonymous No.15917174]

>>15916828
Yeah, but a chink shitter has absolutely no right to be mentioned in the same phrase as haute horology

[Anonymous No.15917181]

>>15916615
Why are Arabs and Chinks so incredibly tasteless?

[Anonymous No.15917184]

Most "haute horology" brands have been debasing themselves for decades by making tasteless garbage for rich arabs and more recently gaudy zodiac trash for rich chinks.

[Anonymous No.15917188]

>>15917184
You can commission them to make you anything you want.
This was always the case, stop being salty.

The way major "hh" brands debase themselves is by putting oversized, flashy, "iced-out" nog bling into their regular production lines.
Both AP and PP do it, but not VC.

[Anonymous No.15917192]

>>15917181
They have a different sense of aesthetics, but instead of investing on brands from their own culture, who should know about said aesthetics, they resort to Europeans who, while skilled, can only apply their tastes to a design that has European sensibilities in mind, thus, clashing

[Anonymous No.15917196]

>>15915908
>not keen on the decor
not seiko anon but what's wrong with the gadsden and american flags? both have existed long before the trump crowd and alt-right autists started flying them.

[Anonymous No.15917201]

>>15917188
This is production stuff, not custom order one offs.
They even have prices listed for them

[Anonymous No.15917202]

>>15917196
Liberalism is for fags

[Anonymous No.15917210]

>>15917184
>>15917201
yes and?
of course they cater to china
why wouldnt they
it is the singular biggest luxury market on the entire planet
at the end of the day a business is a business

[Anonymous No.15917263]

>>15916834
Yeah, but I don't like the curved case and it's just 36mm.

[Anonymous No.15917268]

>>15916889
IWC is lame, but being happy with lowest bidder nameless chinkshit is pussy shit.

[Anonymous No.15917275]

>>15917263
It looks like it's a better Datejust homage. The Islander honestly looks like a hacked up SARB case and the logo looks like a 5 year old made it in MS paint. I like the rolex style case profile of the Traska.

[Anonymous No.15917279]

>>15917268
its $100, nobody gives a shit

[Anonymous No.15917296]

>>15917293
>>15917293
>>15917293
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[Anonymous No.15917301]

>>15915960
Vintage Datejust

[Anonymous No.15917333]

>>15916712
>Elaine: What time you got?
>Kramer: Oh, no. I don't wear a watch.
>Elaine: What do you do?
>Kramer: Well, I tell time by the sun.
>Elaine: How close do you get?
>Kramer: Well, I can guess within an hour.
>Elaine: Tsk. Well, I can guess within the hour, and I don't even have to look at the sun.
>Kramer: Yeah.
>Elaine: Well, what about at night? What do you do then?
>Kramer: Well, night's tougher but it's only a couple of hours.

[Anonymous No.15917356]

>>15916867
>why wouldn't you get a real one
The only real one is the 55mm monster from Laco

[Anonymous No.15917406]

>>15916115
I don't know, why are you here?

[Anonymous No.15917418]

>>15917202
sure is, good thing I'm not a liberal. not much in mainstream politics that speaks to me these days. certainly not the far left, certainly not the rinos and certainly not the pants-on-head retarded "alt-right" crowd. still love my country and respect historical flags, which was the point of my questioning, what is wrong with classic historical flags?

[Anonymous No.15917633]

>>15916192
You must have rocks in your brains if you think the citizen diver is a sub homage

[Anonymous No.15917920]

>>15917123
Nah, it can kill the tubes though

[Anonymous No.15917922]

>>15917333
based

[Anonymous No.15918309]

Rate.