Is London still /fa/?

[Anonymous No.15869976]

Is London still /fa/? From what I can make out it's just trust fund posers

[Anonymous No.15870059]

>>15869976
What do you mean by /fa/? General fashion trends in London reflect those in the rest of England, except maybe of a slightly higher standard (but still men wearing pale super skinny ripped jeans and tiny Adidas t shirts). Being a major city, there are, of course, plenty of outliers and weirdos who will reflect slightly more indie (not really, of course, though they believe they're indie) fashions. Grunge resurgence, current alt-style stuff, etc. Often done to a decent standard, but still widely derivative and boring. Suitings plummeted too. In financial areas there's a uniform of sorts - overly tight synthetic black trousers, overly tight white shirt, silver-toned flimsy belt, cheap square-toed/pointy black shoes (typically with ugly orthopedic soles or garish coloured soles). It's dire, is the long and short of it.

[Anonymous No.15870143]

I keep hearing that it's lost the edge that it used to have and not as vibrant and fun. The cost of living there has skyrocketed so that I think that's killed a lot of the more interesting culture and arts.

[Anonymous No.15870152]

>>15870143
Squatting was criminalised in 2012 so that made it harder for a lot of poorfags who would have previously lived in squats to get by

[Anonymous No.15871157]

bump

[Anonymous No.15871428]

It's all about Machester, Brighton and Bristol in England these days.

[Anonymous No.15871435]

>>15869976
Chad SEXcore

[Anonymous No.15871440]

>>15869976

[Anonymous No.15871461]

>>15869976
no one interesting can afford to live there anymore.

[Anonymous No.15871469]

>>15870059
>Suitings plummeted too.
Absolute disgrace.

[Anonymous No.15871474]

>>15869976
I came back from Paris this year and I hate it. I'm leaving as soon as I can. Just feels like an inauthentic playground for the tasteless super rich. Paris for all its flaws has plenty of grit whilst London is completely sterile. Very in/fa/ place. Would not recommend.

[Anonymous No.15871488]

>>15871435
>>15871440
Deano can't afford London (outside of Zone 5/6 maybe, Sutton is full of Deanos), tends to live in commuter towns in Essex/less bougie parts of Surrey.
That doesn't stop him and Smithy from going to Shoreditch at weekends and shitting the whole place up though
>>15871474
Oh wow, that's interesting to hear, I always assumed that Paris was less authentic than London. You ok to go into more detail about your experiences?

[Anonymous No.15871536]

>>15871474
i lived in the 15th arrondissement near parc georges brassens for a couple months and didn’t find it to be filled with insufferable rich people. it was pretty quiet and there was a decent amount of things to do there. i used to go to this like outdoor book fair every weekend, get a couple of books for a couple of euros, and stop at a local cafe for a coffee.
i did however enjoy barcelona and madrid more but part of it was because i could actually speak the language.

[Anonymous No.15871542]

>>15870059
>In financial areas there's a uniform of sorts - overly tight synthetic black trousers, overly tight white shirt, silver-toned flimsy belt, cheap square-toed/pointy black shoes (typically with ugly orthopedic soles or garish coloured soles). It's dire
sexxx is the core of the borg!

[Anonymous No.15871817]

>>15871488
>You ok to go into more detail about your experiences?
Lived for five years in a very boring place called Levallois Perret but it was in the metro line and only took 20 minutes direct to go to the centre. Metro was cheap as chips too, only 35 Euros a month (most employers will subsidise you). Paris, like much of France isn't full of ironic Instagram friendly cuisine and although a lot of brasseries are mediocre (like your average pub) there's quite a few gems. Speaking of brasseries, there really is no equivalent in the UK. You get your coffee/aperol, you sit outside with loads of other people at 5/6 after work and you watch everyone pass by. More of independent stores, especially bookshops and in places like Oberkampf there's tons of awesome grimy bars. If you like to cook there's butchers and markets everywhere (on my road alone there were like five butchers) Like a lot of European cities Paris has mixed zoning so people live, work, eat and drink in the same neighborhood. On nearly all my nights out I would end up walking or cycling home, even living in Levallois Perret it would take an hour max from the centre. Rented Bikes cost nothing in Paris by the way to rent unlike London and it's actually better for cycle lanes. Also there were fun squats (artistic improv nights with cheap booze in disused buildings). Paris for all its occasional filth and weirdness was at least not as cravenly commercial and dull as London. Now I have to spend 4 pounds to get half decent bread made by artisan twats. Fuck this gay earth.

In London and UK in general we have huge wastelands of boring residential shit. Where in London do I have to live to feel like I'm in a city? Fulham/Chelsea feels provincial as fuck. Do I need to go Camden or something? Right now the only thing I prefer about London is that the tube doesn't smell of poo and that you can actually get individual dishes for brunch instead of having to buy a 25 euro formule which is a weird France thing. /Rant

[Anonymous No.15871820]

>>15871536
>didn’t find it to be filled with insufferable rich people
I was talking about London bruh. Anyway the insufferable Frenchies would be found in the 16th.

[Anonymous No.15871882]

>>15869976
Get to Vienna, Prague or Budapest while it has not been gentrificiezed yet. Thinking about moving from Berlin to Budapest myself, Berlin becomes to feel like Disneyland for expats and rent prices skyrocket due to it while wages are lower than most of Germany.

[Anonymous No.15871888]

>>15869976
>pakis
>somalis
>blacks
>handful of whites but they're foreign too

[Anonymous No.15871927]

>>15871882
>Budapest
Great city. I wouldn't mind living there.

[Anonymous No.15871941]

>>15871882
>>15871927
Prague is tourist central and full of fake weed and scammers.
Budapest is great though.

[Anonymous No.15871950]

>>15871888
That's Birmingham you dummy.

[arachni !FdCU8Fux7A No.15871993]

>still
It never was.

[Anonymous No.15871997]

>>15871941
This, Prague is suffering from overtourism and is too small to contain all the chinks and bachelor parties. If local jews would actually care about the city, they would forbid airbnb and limit amount of tourist visas long ago. Was there recently, it is truelly beautiful when it is so empty.
>t. Moravian

[Anonymous No.15872005]

>>15871882
>Vienna
Germans with inferiority/superiority complex
>Prague
Chinks, Russians and drunken Brits every step
>Budapest
Most autistic European nation after Ukrainians and Poles. On top of it lots of gypsies.

Also Vienna is the only suitable city for expat. Czechs and Hungarians hate them (for a good reason). And expats are usualy too low-IQ to learn Hungarian or Czech (which are arguably quite difficult) so they complain about "muh unfriendly people!".

[Anonymous No.15872013]

imo the best major city to live in is whichever you can afford to be situated in the downtown of

[Anonymous No.15872050]

>>15869976
If you manage to live in zone 1 and 2 it’s pretty cool. But I feel like if you don’t have an investment banker/corporate lawyer type pay then the city will shit you out of its curry and doner stained asshole right into the suburbs. LDN is a city for rich or extremely thrifty students and professionals in their fields that usually still move out after some time. If you want a /fa/ and degenerate city then Berlin is pretty fun for a while. Paris is a middle ground. But I gotta say, the museums and art galleries like Tate are sick

[Anonymous No.15872056]

>>15872050
>Berlin
You are 5 years too late mate. Both Kreuzberg and Neukölln lost its edge long ago.

[Anonymous No.15872091]

>>15872056
Sure it lost it’s edge, but it isn’t as dull as London

[Anonymous No.15872152]

I live in London and always have
As per usual, the suburban wealthy enclaves are full of parks and just green in general and are nice and quiet with a good atmosphere but lack the "hustle and bustle" one would expect in a big city
zone 1 is amazing but expensive, fun to walk around with nice architecture and anything you could want with nice food but yeah, expensive, crowded and as of now, full of mental homeless people
the rest of the city is DISGUSTING and massively unsafe and full of ethnics who do not give a shit about anything
as for actual fashionable people I think most of the women do actually dress decently but the men here don't give a shit, that said I still dress /effay/ (by my standards lel) because it's a big city so I can do what I want
moving into a zone 1 studio though, can't wait

[Anonymous No.15872327]

>>15872152
Nice one mate, which disctrict may I ask?

[Anonymous No.15873132]

Great writeup anon, might actually visit Paris once borders are open again now that you've sold me on it.
>>15871817
>In London and UK in general we have huge wastelands of boring residential shit. Where in London do I have to live to feel like I'm in a city?
Yeah this is one of my main gripes with London too. London is like 1400km2 or some shit like that, yet a large majority of that is just copy and pasted lower middle class mock tudor suburbs or council estate commieblocks. There's very little to actually explore outside of city centre/inner districts like Camden/Shoreditch that are way past their prime
'Trendy' places like Peckham/Brixton/Deptford don't actually have much going on apart from a handful of galleries and like 1-2 music venues each and are already past their prime whilst still being pretty unsafe, shit's fucked
>>15871882
>>15872056
Fuck
I was considering dropping out of uni here to go study in Berlin due to lower living costs/perceived greater authenticity. Should I bother? It's either Berlin or Tokyo for me
>>15872050
Yeah the free museums/galleries and large amount of green space are the only good things about this shithole honestly. I guess there are also plenty of attractive women in uni (both trust fund art hoes from Islington and asian exchange students that are intelligent and classy) but most are fairly well heeled and lokey snobbish because of that (I'm working class so can't really relate)

[Anonymous No.15873158]

>>15869976
I would never set a foot in this shithole

[Anonymous No.15873173]

>>15871536
15th is a quiet upper middle class residency area. Plenty of charm in some places but I'm more of a right bank kinda guy

[Anonymous No.15873201]

>>15871440
That's Birmingham not London

[Anonymous No.15873241]

>>15871817
i envy you that you got to experience both of the hearts of europe

t. 'lives' in a village called munich

[Anonymous No.15873732]

>>15871817
Yeah, there's so much residential bullshit in/around London. It all poured out after the invention of the car. Now we've got faggots demanding we either expand more into the countryside or that we fuck up the London skyline further with ugly Modern buildings to accommodate more and more waves of enrichers. Regulation is still stopping people from upping the number of floors in their house to five, like a traditional Georgian townhouse, which would solve the issue and make much of the ugly residential areas more appealing. London is void of any cheap or hidden business, too. It's chains that swamp highstreets (Costas/starbucks/topshops/tescos/waterstones), and if you stray into the wider city is Street after street after street of unsightly postwar office buildings. Really quite bleak.

[Anonymous No.15873754]

>>15869976
I know London is hated amongst /fa/ but I qent there 3 years ago for a week and I absolutely loved it. By far my favorite City in the EU and I've seen basically all... second comes Amsterdam I think. London is rly something else, I don't see what people hate about it. Other than crime rates which have risen like crazy apperantly but I wasn't affected and felt safe so I don't know. If had had the money I'd probably move there (or close to it).
Currently living in Munich btw.

[Anonymous No.15873851]

>>15873132
If you are not fluent in Japanese do not go to study there.

[Anonymous No.15873856]

>>15873732
London's modern architecture is probably the ugliest in the world. At least all those Chinese ghost towns have the decency to be aesthetically consistent
>>15873754
>I don't see what people hate about it
People who hate London generally do so due to the extortionately high cost of living (only people who can afford London in 2020 are Tarquin finance workers), which pushes out more interesting creative types that generally tend to earn far less - consequently, London has come to feel rather sterile and corporately dominated within the last 10 years.
If someone visited for a week and mainly stuck to galleries/museums and parks without getting the time to investigate the grassroots art/music scene (ie. not getting to discover that creativity is dying here and only trust fund kids can afford to live that life) I understand why they'd leave with a good impression

[Anonymous No.15873861]

>>15873851
Already working on it champ
That said I'm a poorfag so only way I can afford to study here is through the MEXT scholarship, which means I have to take a maths exam even though I don't study maths
Not sure if it's worth it, might study in Berlin and go to Tokyo during holidays/after my degree

[Sieg !NP2jUmGKeo No.15873862]

>>15869976
ever been robbed by an ethopian with a 2x4 with a nail in it, 2 ikea butter knives sharpened on the sidewalk?

well go to london and see what it's like

[Anonymous No.15873886]

>>15873862
shut up tripfag

[Anonymous No.15873913]

I'm moving to Birmingham soon. What am I in for britbros?

[Anonymous No.15873924]

>>15873913
Posh

[Anonymous No.15873947]

>>15873913
Meeting many people who don't have knife license

[Anonymous No.15873978]

>>15873913
brown people straight off the plane from Baluchastan.

[Anonymous No.15873983]

>>15873924
>>15873947
>>15873978

How fa? At least it's cheap and not a completely commercialized city like London. Fucking bankers ruined that place.

[Anonymous No.15873988]

>>15873983
>not a completely commercialized city
Practically all of the UK is super commercialised. Every single highstreet is EXACTLY the same. The only independent businesses you're likely to see are kebab shops m8.

[Anonymous No.15873990]

>>15873983
zero % /fa/ mate

[Anonymous No.15873992]

>>15873988
>>15873990

Sad times. I don't even like peaky blinders.

[Anonymous No.15874004]

>>15873992
I'm sure there are some nice places and you'll make friends
BUT
chances are you'll be trapped in an ethnic enclave and hate your life
best of luck buddy

[Anonymous No.15874007]

>>15873132
Fuck off cunt we are full.

[Anonymous No.15874013]

>>15874004

Cheers lad. At least I can afford my own place and the job is good.

[Anonymous No.15874026]

>>15869976
My Mother says London doesn't have the same charm it used to, she lived there in the 70's and was very disappointed going back.

[Anonymous No.15874030]

>>15874013
where are you from?

[Anonymous No.15874038]

>>15874030

Rural Wales but I've been working in Oxford for a few years after uni now.

[Anonymous No.15874057]

>>15874038
you might be in for a big culture shock if you've never lived in a big city before
don't trust anyone and keep your wits about

[Anonymous No.15874062]

>>15874057
Nah I have been to Birmingham a few times before and went to uni around the area. I also used to work in South Africa so I'm not too worried.

[Anonymous No.15874064]

>>15874057
But thank you.

[Anonymous No.15874119]

>>15873913
Lived here since birth. In all honesty it's not THAT bad but it's just got nothing going for it. It's a very boring collection of suburbs essentially. Like any UK city, there's good parts and there's bad parts.

[Anonymous No.15874123]

>>15874013
You can as well afford place in other cities which are arguably better than Birmingistan.

[Anonymous No.15874138]

>>15869976
south of the river >>>> north of the river

west >>> east

Morley’s >>> chicken cottage

[Anonymous No.15874146]

>>15871817
>Oberk
I've only spent a little time in Paris but I had a similar experience. It fucking feels like a big city and despite the tourist traps there are hidden gems everywhere. I was staying in Oberkamf and there was so much cool shit within walking distance from bookstores to wine bars to cool shops and underground clubs. The Marais is full of awesome nightlife and even though it's really trendy right now there are plenty of bars that aren't crowded. I love the mixed zoning. It creates so much vibrancy in every part of the city.

[Anonymous No.15874158]

>>15873732
There's a stereotype that Brits find bleakness and struggle to be well-suited to their natures and that Brits are at their best in shitty situations. Do you think this is true? Is it a generational thing? Has this attitude disappeared in the post-war era?

[Anonymous No.15874223]

Glasgow and Manchester are the best cities in the UK FACT
But don't you guys dare think about moving in WE ARE FULL

[Anonymous No.15874240]

>>15874223
all english cities outside of london are just endless rows of pic related

[Anonymous No.15874259]

>>15871817
how do you find out about those kinds of squats. I live in a metro area and I'd be really interested in finding similar things. Also did you interact with anyone from CSM I'm thinking about transferring and any info would help

[Anonymous No.15874293]

>>15874240
Damn, does it feel good to live in relatively small but stable and not overrun country. If your city doesn't have at least 30% green spaces, you can off.

[Anonymous No.15874297]

>>15874293
you do realise London is insanely green right

[Anonymous No.15874315]

>>15874158
I'd say it's disappeared post-war, yes. Tolerance of hardship/bleakness (though not the sort of bleakness I mean when I describe London) was a part of England's cultural identity, rooted in the strong sense of mutual trust and as such sense of national community ---> everyone "keeps calm and carries on". This shared consideration for eachother was routed in this national cultural identity. We could all trust one another because we were all English, and as such, as Socialistic post-war changes wore away at this, this all went the way of the dodo. If our cultural identity comes from our nation, and the borders of our nation become meaningless, there's no way for shared cultural identity to continue. If massive amounts of immigrants are invited (as began most prominently in the 90s) without much in the way of integration or familiarisation, and we are amongst people we do not know, who do not necessarily share this identity, or our values, or our cultural heritage, how are we to trust eachother?

[Anonymous No.15874321]

>>15874315
*rooted

[Anonymous No.15874334]

>>15873913
A fuck load of Pakis basically. Sorry I was the one who had to tell you. Fucking shithole of a place. Disgrace

[Anonymous No.15874461]

>>15874334
More or less, yes, though I was being euphemistic. Hell, it wouldn't be disastrous if integration was far more thorough (as it has been in any successful case of immigration) but the suggestion is anything from colonial, to racist, to condescending, apparently. Not all of England is a shithole, though. London, yes, but most of it, especially in the South, has much more country than a cityliver expects and is far more Anglo than a cityliver would imagine.

[Anonymous No.15874477]

>>15873913
It has no style
It has no grace
It has only paki race

[Anonymous No.15874482]

>>15873862
based

[Anonymous No.15874625]

>>15874259
Daughter of my landlady took me to them and I met people there.

[Anonymous No.15874650]

>>15873241

scheiß drauf brudi wir haben pumuckl

[Anonymous No.15874655]

>>15874477
lmao

[Anonymous No.15874699]

>>15869976
no

[Anonymous No.15874723]

>>15874038
>rural Wales
Moved from Manchester to Aberystwyth, love it here man.

[Anonymous No.15874763]

>>15871817
>In London and UK in general we have huge wastelands of boring residential shit. Where in London do I have to live to feel like I'm in a city
why is this board full of annoying cunts
t. tourist

[Anonymous No.15874885]

>>15874138
Wenzels Fondant Fancies >>>>>>>> what you have where in your ends

[Anonymous No.15875178]

>>15874763
He's not wrong. Not only are London's residential spaces massive, isolating, boring, and often unsightly, they're not even a good use of space (see Scruton on Georgian townhouse development propositions). And for city living to be a happy endeavour, you do need a sense of liveliness and substance - 'small things hidden in every corner'. I said somewhere else here about the void of not just unique, small business, but business in general beyond highstreets.

[Anonymous No.15875288]

>>15874763
Fuck off cunt. The op asked and I answered.

[Anonymous No.15875305]

Not anymore. Its lost.

[Anonymous No.15875384]

>>15869976
>Where in London do I have to live to feel like I'm in a city?
Serious question though. Can any Londoners recommend a neighborhood? Me and my gf's rental contract will expire soon and we want to move.

[Anonymous No.15875432]

>>15875384
just roam around zone 1 or move to somewhere like Hampstead for a more relaxed and pseudo rural slice of London
If you're late 20s you'd also enioy somewhere like Muswell Hill or any of the other North London rural enclaves

[Anonymous No.15875440]

London is getting ruined fast. Very sad for a 2000 year old city.

[Anonymous No.15875442]

London then.

[Anonymous No.15875445]

>>15875442
London now.

[Anonymous No.15875452]

>>15875445
London then.

[Anonymous No.15875454]

>>15875452
London now.

[Anonymous No.15875457]

[Anonymous No.15875463]

The previously gorgeous London is growing tumors.

[Anonymous No.15875690]

>>15875463
When did the idea of architectural harmony fall out of favor?

[Anonymous No.15875779]

>>15871950
No man, that’s fucking London.

[Anonymous No.15876034]

>>15875463
When local authorities stopped loving and caring about their nation.

[Anonymous No.15876092]

>>15869976
never was

[Anonymous No.15876096]

>>15875463
Fucking walkie-talkie man, apparently it won an award for worst architectural design or somehing. The curved glass has apparently melted cars before by reflecting the sun at a certain angle

[Anonymous No.15876968]

>>15876096
>The curved glass has apparently melted cars before by reflecting the sun at a certain angle
Maybe they specifically designed it that way to spite the yuppies in finance that would park their cars near the building...