/wt/ Watch Thread

[Anonymous No.15667932]

I Get Colder Edition

This thread is about the appreciation of watches and their design, their history, and the engineering and materials that are required to make a functioning timepiece.

Guides:
> Poorfag guide: https://m.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

Should I buy this MVMT / DW / "minimalist" fashion watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

Should I buy this Armani / Michael Kors / mall watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/Sw1FsAn

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
> Wrist size or desired watch size

Old bread >>15664485

[Anonymous No.15667951]

Post winter and polar watches.

[Anonymous No.15667960]

When does the honeymoon phase usually end? Day 3 and it still distracts me constantly and I have to look at it like crazy Bilbo, but it's also the first watch I really wear in public.

[Anonymous No.15667988]

>>15667960
>When does the honeymoon phase usually end?
Ask your wife

[Anonymous No.15668012]

How autistic are you about antimagnetism in your mechanical watches? I know a lot of people think they need 300m WR to get to and from their car on the daily, but what about magnetic resistance?
Working on a laptop all day, with the speaker directly below the left wrist, would this be hindering in the long term on a microbrand shitter with no meme tech?

[Anonymous No.15668022]

>>15668012
yes but it'll likely just mean you watch loses accuracy, thats all
just buy a $10 demagnetiser if you are worried about it, its that simple
let the watch stop moving before using it.

[Anonymous No.15668023]

>>15667951
What's the consensus on the modern Raketa?, I was thinking about blowing 2-3k next year to start a smoll russian collection and raketa has some nice looking models, so I was considering purchasing one watch from them.

[Anonymous No.15668024]

>check out this cool new watch my wifes bf got me

[Anonymous No.15668032]

>>15668024
I prefer a more natural look

[Anonymous No.15668041]

How did apple manage to make a nicer bracelet than any watch manufacturer?
Toolless adjustment, well engineered clasp, comfortable fit.
I would never buy an apple watch personally so hopefully some what manufacturer or the Chinese will copy this for regular analog watches.

[Anonymous No.15668043]

Would you guys want to help me ID this poor, abused thing that my grandfather, who passed shortly after I was born, left behind? It could probably be restored, right?

[Anonymous No.15668047]

>>15668043
Reverse

[Anonymous No.15668053]

>>15668047
Have you tried to google the numbers that are right there on the damn watch?, google shows exactly that model.

[Anonymous No.15668066]

>>15667988
If it's the same as with women, I guess it comes and goes in waves huh.

[Anonymous No.15668079]

>>15668023
They have the merit of making their own movement in-house.
Most of their modernized versions of their classic models are awful though. The Big Zero misses the point of what made the original special so hard, it's almost insulting. Some of the sub-collections like the Avant-Garde and the brand new Malevich are pretty cool though.
The new Copernic is overdesigned and kinda gaudy.
The Polar 24h is neat. All their 24h watches are alright, I guess it's going to depend on which aesthetic you prefer for yours.
The Russian Code is interesting. I'm considering getting a white dial one.

[Anonymous No.15668120]

>>15668079
The ones I like are the polar ones, the 24h ''space watch'' baikonur, and I like also their divers, but if I purchased a watch would be probably some 24h watch, so probably polar or baikonur.Avant garde and the new malevich one I saw some days ago are nice, but I don't see wearing them myself, and the russian code concept looks interesting.

My question was more about if there is something really bad about the brand lique quality or servicing, I guess that the only downside is the pricing, but I guess they have in house movements and are pretty premium compared to the workhorse vostok, so its not something really bad.

[Anonymous No.15668146]

thoughts on using a $400 watch as a work out watch ?

[Anonymous No.15668147]

>>15668012
I regularly work with a machine has a huge permanent magnetic field near the place I put samples in with my hands while wearing a Seiko 5 (basically a tiny MRI with permanent magnets). Never a problem. Every time I've had gotten my hands on a watch with balance spring problems, it's been dirty, not magnetized. In general, people tend to blame magnetization for too many problems. If your new watch suddenly starts to run way too fast (not by seconds, like many minutes or even hours per day), then it could be magnetized... or dirty. Otherwise it's probably something else. But yeah, I have a cheap demagnetizer too, though I use it to demagnetize my screwdrivers way more often than the movements themselves.

[Anonymous No.15668148]

for me, its a rotating drum system

[Anonymous No.15668152]

when's that casio duro update coming?

[Anonymous No.15668154]

>>15668047
It could be restored, or since it has a 7005 movement, it could probably even be replaced with a modern 7S26 or a better derivative. Latter would probably be cheaper than a service.

[Anonymous No.15668157]

>>15668154
Ah, the latter being a more accurate movement? That sounds interesting. It's more of a sentimental piece than anything, so I'm very happy to hear that it can be restored to good condition. Thank you, anon.

[Anonymous No.15668165]

>>15668120
Honestly, 900-2000€ for a watch with a fully in-house movement that was engineered just a few years ago, one of the few dedicated 24h movements would be quite fair.
You probably get more for your grand than you would at an equivalent price with a swiss watch.
I mean, you could get a quartz Tag Formula One OR you could get a Polar 24h...

[Anonymous No.15668180]

>>15668157
Maybe not more accurate, but more readily available. 7005 was used in the 70's and 80's, 7S25 is based on the same design but still used.

[Anonymous No.15668182]

>>15668180
Oh, I meant the exterior. As far as I have tested it, it seems to still be in working order? It's just that the exterior is scuffed, and the lens (?) is chipped.

[Anonymous No.15668194]

>>15668182
the glass can be replaced or even upgraded with sapphire glass, and you can keep the old chipped glass.

I would not bother with restoring the exterior, since this is a sentimental piece. Scuff marks add character.

you can ask for a cleaning of the movement if you want to. Some prefer not to touch anything if the watch still runs.

[Anonymous No.15668207]

redpill me on gshock negative displays
are they as difficult to read as people say they are

[Anonymous No.15668234]

>>15668207
supposedly they drain the battery more

[Anonymous No.15668260]

The great debate

[Anonymous No.15668264]

>>15668260
it's really not a great debate, one is +/- 2.5 hours which is unacceptable at this price range

[Anonymous No.15668275]

>>15668260
acrylic 110%
its authentic and serves a real purpose

[Anonymous No.15668288]

36mm is too big, why arent there more 32mm sports watches :(

[Anonymous No.15668294]

Any recommendations for a good quality bund strap?

[Anonymous No.15668298]

>>15668294
seiko

[Anonymous No.15668301]

>>15668298
seiko dont make bund straps and their straps are notoriously shitty anyway. You wouldn't want to wear a seiko strap.

[Anonymous No.15668302]

>>15668288
34-36mm really are the only viable sizes, maybe when you are older than 18 you get big enough wrists

[Anonymous No.15668330]

>>15668207
they look worse in pictures than in real life. my coworker has the watch you posted, it looks nice in person

[Anonymous No.15668360]

is he right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SZWO0f6FEc

[Anonymous No.15668366]

>>15668360
not watching that, what are the 7 mistakes

[Anonymous No.15668367]

>>15667960
What's the model name of that one

[Anonymous No.15668370]

>>15668148
How much is that in normal money?

[Anonymous No.15668376]

>>15668360
>>15668366
>not watching that, what are the 7 mistakes

[Anonymous No.15668415]

>>15668366
>1) Buying Watches Too Quickly
Going crazy and buy a ton of watches when you're new to the hobby before figuring out what type of watches you actually like.

>2) Buying Watches That You Love
Buying watches that you love on paper/in your mind but you find out the hard way they dont actually work on you IRL.

>3)Ticking All the Boxes
Thinking you -need- to have 1 of every watch type

>4)Not Appreciating What You Have
Chasing the hype/FOTM and not taking time to appreciate your timepieces

>4.5) Buying a cheaper "substitute watch" while you save for your Grail (he gives the example of getting a Tudor BB 36 vs Rolex Explorer I)
Unless the watch is really cheap, you'd be better off if you saved the money instead.

>5)Confusing Luxury with Quality
Price does to a certain extent but it does not totally 100% = Quality. Goes into value for money, diminishing returns for luxury watches/watches above $1000 and "quality jumps to pricing" tiers

>6)Buying the Specs
shopping by pure watch specs, in reality you are a desk diver and you'd miss out on otherwise great watches you'd have loved.

>7)Listening to Others
buying what others think is suitable for you instead of doing your own research and listening to yourself

[Anonymous No.15668433]

>>15668415
>1) Buying Watches Too Quickly
Fair enough, though it's also true that trial and error will help you figure out what you really like and want in a piece.
>2) Buying Watches That You Love
Also goes with 1) in that you often won't be able to know what does and doesn't work for you IRL, not to mention some problems only become appearant once you've worn a piece for a while.
>3) Ticking All the Boxes
good point
>4) Not Appreciating What You Have
good point
>5) Buying a cheaper "substitute watch" while you save for your Grail
Doing it as a "substitute" while you save up is silly, but considering other options if something is clearly out of your range can be a good idea.
>6) Confusing Luxury with Quality
The Tag dealer screams in pain as he stabs you in the back
>7) Buying the Specs
That's really going to depend what kind of Watch you most get into.
>8) Listening to Others
noooooooo listen to /wt/, we're totally reliable!

Not too bad a list of tips, really.

[Anonymous No.15668457]

>>15668415
tl;dr
>just buy a Rolex poorfag

[Anonymous No.15668460]

>>15668457
>tl;dr
but i even broke it down into reddit spacing just for you

[Anonymous No.15668472]

Tell me why I shouldn't buy a new OP 36mm in 2020?

>70 hour power reserve
>chronometer certified
>flawless design
>will keep value

[Anonymous No.15668475]

>>15667960
Don't think about it and enjoy while this phase lasts.

>>15668367
Casio Edifice EFR-S108D-1AVUEF

[Anonymous No.15668476]

>>15668472
I cant

[Anonymous No.15668477]

>>15668472
>flawless design
the double batons at 3, 6, and 9 are absolute fucking garbage design, just ugly and lazy like your fat whore mom

[Anonymous No.15668480]

>>15668472
>chronometer certified
this is a mountain out of a molehill as you can regulate most watches to above COSC standards if you are autistic enough, even for shitters

i'd rather it not be written on the dial

[Anonymous No.15668483]

>>15668472
>flawless design
>double batons

[Anonymous No.15668484]

>>15668472
Fuck me, if this isn't the most basic bitch watch in existence. Might aswell get a clone/hommage from Aliexpress and save your money on more important things than watches.

[Anonymous No.15668496]

I want this so badly. If only they had an option for black IP-finished case and bracelet, then I'd have already preordered it.

[Anonymous No.15668498]

>>15668360
It's just a video spewing common sense to reddit consumers.

Walking out and buying 7 watches in no time at all isn't collecting it's consuming.A "collection" regardless of it's size implies a certain amount or curation.

Reddit communities are about purchasing as much as quickly as possible just to have numbers.

[Anonymous No.15668504]

>>15668496
It looks like a yatch master fucked a nautilus who went on to drink heavily throughout the pregnancy.

I do like it though

[Anonymous No.15668515]

>>15668496
>Formex
So... "fake mexican Rolex"?

[Anonymous No.15668518]

>>15668415
The 7 mistakes according to /wt/
>1) Missing out on great deals out of indecisiveness
Going meek and missing out on once in a lifetime grey market deals/vintage pieces with ever increasing value/rare and desirable limited ed. microshitters is going to haunt you daily until you'll be forced to pay a 30-50% premium to some daring chad on ebay for the one that got away.
>2)Buying pragmatic pieces
Not buying inspiring watches those would force you to step out of your comfort zone is a sure way to end up with a soulless collection as devoid of personality as you yourself are.
>3)Ending up with five identical watches under different brand names
Deluding yourself into the false belief that you -don't- need three or four basic pieces to suit most occasions in an adult professional man's life.
>4)Being too content with what you have
It goes without saying that any serious collector should be aware of the main horological investment trends and he should be familiar with potentially valuable new releases by the companies prominent in his collection.
>4.5)Not buying a watch comparable to your grail in specs and history out of snobbery
Unless your grail is really unique or great at holding its value, you'd be better off if you saved some money to further expand your collection.
>5)Confusing true luxury with "entry-level luxury"
Quality and tradition has a price and the pricing of luxury goods is sometimes driven by irrational factors. These are the basic rules of the game every collector should be aware of.
>6)Not buying the specs
Shopping purely by watch specs -is- the way to go in the "entry-level luxury" category dominated by big conglomerates where usually brand name, not quality is the only differentiator in price
>7)Not listening to Others
The gentlemen collectors of /wt/ have immense horological knowledge and experience, thus they should serve as your main guides in curating your collection unless you want to subject yourself to their well-earned bullying.

[Anonymous No.15668520]

>>15668515
formex is actually swiss they just have an incredibly mexican name

[Anonymous No.15668522]

>>15668367
EFR-S108D-1AV

[Anonymous No.15668523]

>>15668515
Dunno why people associate Mexico with that name. Sounds more like some fancy construction material.

>>15668504
Heh, now that you mention it, I agree.

[Anonymous No.15668528]

https://youtu.be/RKXAkHw4DMM?t=913

Can someone identify this watch please?

[Anonymous No.15668543]

my first watch should be here tomorrow

[Anonymous No.15668546]

>>15668543
Cool. Which one did you order?

[Anonymous No.15668547]

>>15668523
A lot of companies in Mexico have MEX in their name. Like PEMEX is Mexican Petroleum. FORMEX sounds like some Mexican construction company. The name works because all their watches are overengineered and have that industrial vibe to them so it's not really a bad thing, it just makes it seem like your watch is Mexican.
You might like that, if you're Mexican.

[Anonymous No.15668555]

>>15668546
san martin pilot

[Anonymous No.15668557]

>>15668496
Ants in your pants?

[Anonymous No.15668559]

>>15668518
Based, i blew my chance to get a SARB for less than $450 and I'm mad about it.

[Anonymous No.15668568]

>>15668555
Based, please post about it when it comes in

[Anonymous No.15668569]

>>15668568
will do!

[Anonymous No.15668576]

>>15668555
I hate NATOs, it should look a lot better on a fat brown calf leather strap honestly

[Anonymous No.15668580]

>>15668576
where do you guys get your leather straps from?

[Anonymous No.15668581]

>>15668555
Nice.

I've ordered a diver from their Aliexpress store in late August. Unfortunately they've sent me the wrong watch (I wanted a green dial). Sucks because the finishing looked really good. I've returned it since and am waiting for the replacement (I get an additional set of straps for free and the return shipping costs refunded). The wait is annoying but their support has been good so far.

[Anonymous No.15668583]

>>15668580
Cheapnatostraps, Fluco, Hirsch, Hadley Roma, RIOS1931

[Anonymous No.15668585]

>>15668543
I got to wait 2-3 weeks for mine. Seller lives overseas.

[Anonymous No.15668712]

>>15667960
Damn i like that watch. Looks so nice.

[Anonymous No.15668724]

>>15668472
i was thinking of getting the green dial 36. theyre nice and simple

[Anonymous No.15668726]

>>15667960
Here's it's bigger brother (about 42mm). Slightly bigger in diameter and non integrated bracelet. But your version, i think 39mm is way better in proportion.

[Anonymous No.15668746]

>>15668726
>sapphire on the dial
ruined

[Anonymous No.15668778]

>>15667960
That's a very nice watch for a generic skinny college kid with glasses #159837

[Anonymous No.15668790]

>>15668154
If you can put a 7S26 then you can also put an NH35

[Anonymous No.15668804]

>>15668790
you may need another movement holder or a domed crystal since the nh35 is slightly thicker

[Anonymous No.15668813]

>>15668746
Why yes, sapphire is litterally on the dial. The glass is made of sapphire. :^^)

[Anonymous No.15668874]

>>15668778
Most college kids nowdays cant even read analog watches

[Anonymous No.15668921]

regulated my vostok :3
first time opening a watch before

[Anonymous No.15668925]

>>15668288
Get the classic Seiko 5s, they are shorter lug to lug

[Anonymous No.15668930]

>>15668472
Seiko did it better

[Anonymous No.15668938]

Help me choose a royal broke, /wt/ - I was gonna wait til the edifice s108d was available outside of europe but I was recently directed to these Casiden homages with Seiko movements for bargain bin prices. Anybody have any experience with these particular chinkwatches? Looking at the 42mm version natch.

[Anonymous No.15668940]

>>15668528
Basic bitch 40mm

[Anonymous No.15668946]

>>15668930
>Seiko 5 with that kind of dial
n u t
What's the model number

[Anonymous No.15668952]

>>15668938
Right, it’s not so bulky, exept if your wrists are 18cm+

[Anonymous No.15668954]

>>15668472
>>70 hour power reserve
Useless if you actually wear the watch usually

>chronometer certified
Useless, nobody cares about accuracy on mechanical watches
>flawless design
There are other similar watches
>will keep value
Ok if you plan to sell it later, useless if you don't.

[Anonymous No.15668959]

>>15668946
SNXS75

[Anonymous No.15668981]

>>15668952
That's what I was thinking, I don't mind a Casio being quartz and it's 40mm to boot. I'll wait but if I get impatient good to know I can get a similar one from china.

[Anonymous No.15668995]

>>15668938
The problem is that it uses a seiko movement instead of a Chinese eta clone, it's probably 13mm thick when 10mm or 11mm would be better for that design

[Anonymous No.15669006]

>>15668930
Kinda sad seeing the shit Seiko pumps out today when just a few years ago they were out there making these and the SNK803.

[Anonymous No.15669011]

So a while ago someone posted a Heimdallr Monster. Where can I buy this?

[Anonymous No.15669013]

>>15668370
18500円

[Anonymous No.15669022]

>>15668148
Fuck thats kinda cool.
I'd get one if only it didn't look like its 45mm.

[Anonymous No.15669055]

>>15668260
Better with springbars

[Anonymous No.15669070]

>>15668954

All watches unironically descend from luxury swiss, mostly rolex and patek. Everything else is close but as you said it's similar, ie not the real article.

Also rolex gains value which is probably more than whatever 20 hundred dollar chinese shitters you own.

[Anonymous No.15669095]

>>15668472
Because the Datejust is still better and the new OPs actually look worse than the ones before.

[Anonymous No.15669107]

>>15669070
>All watches unironically descend from luxury swiss

I don't think Rolex was a luxury thing back in the past, at least not as luxury as today's rolex luxury levels, you could buy a Rolex with a single average monthly salary, any people could buy them, they were tools, not jewelry for men.

[Anonymous No.15669110]

>>15668959
>80 bux on LIW
double nut

[Anonymous No.15669168]

>>15669107
with an inflation calculator i see they were the price of a tag (around $1000 or a little more) back then

[Anonymous No.15669177]

>>15668938
Casio. But only because i don't like the waffle dial, the indices and the oversized screws of the other. Hands are also meh for me.
While looking for other pics i found this
>miyota
>sapphire
>RO bracelet
>55€

Guys, the more of these chink watches i see, the more i'm asking myself about how hard we are getting ripped off by the popular brands. How can they make such quality for so little and STILL make a profit? Even if we adapt labour costs to non slavery levels, the other brands should be giving us waaay better quality for the money they recieve.

[Anonymous No.15669180]

>>15669177
i read that as dindu

[Anonymous No.15669182]

>>15668938
the casio, since casio actually makes good watches and it's also quartz not some shit cheap auto movement

[Anonymous No.15669187]

>>15669177
>the more i'm asking myself about how hard we are getting ripped off by the popular brands
Extremely.
You realize that many of the luxury brands like Faglex manufacture parts in China and they assemble them in Switzerland, maybe do a little more finishing, slap SWISS MADE on there and charge you a 9,000,000% markup because you think a 95 year old aryan mountain monk made the whole watch by himself in the Alps?
That's why the SWISS MADE designation has to constantly be looked over and strengthened, because companies try to game it and produce as little in Switzerland as possible to cheat you out of just that much more money. It's all a fucking illusion.

[Anonymous No.15669188]

>>15669180
Haha, same, dindu nuffins watch, awesome.

[Anonymous No.15669191]

>>15669177
Congratulations, you just discovered that the entire watch industry is a massive scam, just like the diamond industry.

[Anonymous No.15669194]

>>15669168
>he price of a tag (around $1000
lmfao what

[Anonymous No.15669202]

What do you people think of my „collection“.
Just started really 1 year ago and the 2 upper ones were my first ones I wore in high school

[Anonymous No.15669210]

>>15669191
>just like the diamond industry
Totally, they had a monopoly, these deBeers kikes bought up all the smaller mines. And even now the market is divided and has artificially limited supply. They memed these goy rocks heavily via hollyshit stars and the music industry.

Not only now did i discover it. My image of it cracked years ago when i saw how good parnis quality was. Speaking of china, just found this one. 110€ and even less on ali. Really like the aquaracer design, My next watch will be one of these chinese ones.

[Anonymous No.15669218]

Lads my watch has arrived. Fucking love the looks and the weight of it.

Having difficulties with the mechanical part though. It stops ticking every couple of hours when it's supposed to last 41 hours. I haven't worn it a lot obviously so maybe that's the issue. Will see how it goes.

[Anonymous No.15669219]

>>15669218
ok I am not sure why the picture is sideways sorry about that

[Anonymous No.15669224]

>>15669202
I like the manguun because it has a funny name that makes me think of a mongoose-penguin hybrid and the sexual acts between these two distant species that could have resulted in the existence of one such creature

[Anonymous No.15669225]

>>15669218
Gotta get i wound up intitally, just wind it fully via the crown

[Anonymous No.15669228]

>>15669210
can you get it without the cyclops?

[Anonymous No.15669237]

>>15668557
and I need to dance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN1xFZ2vfwY

[Anonymous No.15669245]

>>15669202
I've got a "manguun" you can collect

[Anonymous No.15669252]

>>15669228
I am surprised that i found it, yes you can. But only the bear sigar version. Pagani changed the name due to legal trouble i think. Neat, looks even better without the lens.

[Anonymous No.15669254]

>>15669252
I'm of the opinion that there is no watch that a cyclops makes better. it's an incredibly ugly "feature"
that bersigar looks much better

[Anonymous No.15669258]

>>15669225
You can't hand-wind the 7S26 movement. To charge it you have to swing it side-to-side 30 or 40 times.

[Anonymous No.15669259]

gay

[Anonymous No.15669265]

>>15669259
based

[Anonymous No.15669268]

>>15669202
>two first watches are the most decent
>all these mall brands

[Anonymous No.15669269]

>>15669258
Good thing the new seiko 5 models use a 4r36

[Anonymous No.15669273]

>>15668370
About 176 bucks

[Anonymous No.15669295]

>>15669006
True

[Anonymous No.15669307]

>>15669219
4chan strips your exif data on images you upload and causes the picture to get turned

[Anonymous No.15669315]

>>15669307
It doesn't cause the picture to get turned. His shitty camera is encoding orientation data in a non-standard way, meaning it gets stripped by mistake.

[Anonymous No.15669319]

>>15669315
Yeah.. yeah, I knew that

[Anonymous No.15669336]

anybody remember that hand wound field watch that wasnt a hamilton and had that bracelet that looked like one of those old expanding metal ones? I believe it was swiss and under $1000. cant remember what it was called for the life of me

[Anonymous No.15669341]

>>15669252
I can't find the bear cigar on ali anon, help me out

[Anonymous No.15669345]

>>15669336
Serica?

[Anonymous No.15669350]

>>15669341
No problem.
Search for pagani design
https://de.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=AS_20201025163542&origin=y&SearchText=pagani+design

I found bersigars shop on ali but they had only crappy looking models. The aquaracer hommage is under the pagani design name. Strange, thought they changed completely from pagani to bersigar, apparently not.

[Anonymous No.15669354]

>>15669345
>Serica
thats the one! thx bud

[Anonymous No.15669361]

If I don't want to support china at all but want a cheapish watch, is seiko my only choice?

[Anonymous No.15669364]

>>15669354
np, as a smaller watch aficionado, that watch is also under my radar.

[Anonymous No.15669370]

>>15669361
I would say Vostok, but I think not long ago they started taking pieces from china.

[Anonymous No.15669373]

>>15669361
No.
Seiko also gets some of their work done in China to lower their prices.
Vostok is probably the only brand that does not use any chinese labour in the sub-700 bucks range.
Unless they go the easy way and get their hairsprings made by someone else.

[Anonymous No.15669376]

>>15669361
There are a few Swiss watches that are cheapish. Wenger comes to mind

[Anonymous No.15669377]

[Anonymous No.15669381]

>>15669377
Joke's on them, the true mark of a Nomos isn't the dial.
It's the long ass lugs.

[Anonymous No.15669382]

>>15669373
i thought the 5s were made in a robot factory in Malaysia

[Anonymous No.15669386]

>>15669373
Which parts are you talking about? I was looking at SARX, whatever the new alpinist is called, and SARY watches and they say made in japan in the back as opposed to made in malaysia.

[Anonymous No.15669399]

>>15669386
I haven't actually looked into it myself but a few people have claimed that anything can say made in Japan as long is the factory is owned by a Japanese company and Japanese people "oversee" the manufacturing

[Anonymous No.15669405]

>>15669386
>>15669382
All "Made in x" labels have leeway to slap one final label while the product had work done in different places. The swiss are absolutely not the only one exploiting labels like this, they just lobbied hard enough to get their certification ridiculously loose and convenient.
With mechanical watches, the hairspring will almost never be made in-house and there are good chances it's made in the chinese factories of a swiss brand.
With Quartz watches, it's a coin toss.
As for Seiko, they make their heavier metal work in China. The bracelets are made in China (check inside your clasp, you will most likely find a "band China" engraving), so are the cases (you can see it when opening the watch and taking the movement out), as well as some of the base plates and bridges. Assembly is then done elsewhere which is how they can get away with not labeling the products as "made in China".

[Anonymous No.15669408]

>>15669399
A quick search turned up this
https://blog.esslinger.com/are-seiko-watches-made-in-japan-really-made-there/
>Japanese laws state that products manufactured outside Japan can still be labeled ‘Made in Japan’ if the production overlooked by Japanese nationals.

[Anonymous No.15669417]

>>15669370
>>15669373
>>15669376
>>15669405
>>15669408
Is that so. Does that include the "nicer" quartz watches in that range, too? Making bracelets or cases or whatnot in china. Maybe I'll just get a vintage omega or seiko (or maybe someone else?) like everyone else is. Which one do you think is easiest to get in good condition and easy to get repaired?

[Anonymous No.15669426]

>>15669399
It's pretty important to also remember that east-asian cultures and Japan in particular have very little tradition of transparency. japan didn't even get the confucian influences keeping the elites in check through a strict moral code. So to this day, it's perfectly fine for businesses and administrations to be run without any sort of accountability, especially not to the public.
The whole problems of labeling being basically meaningless and "made in Japan" applying to foreign goods kicked up something of a scandal in the automotive and electronic sector when people realized that Japan was in a trade deficit because they imported "made in Japan" appliances and cars.
Many thought it would shake things up and maybe help the japanese realize that transparency can be a good thing and being that trusting towards institution can backfire.
Nothing changed.

[Anonymous No.15669427]

>>15669417
Just get a citizen, don't bother with vintage anything unless you feel like putting time and money into watch collecting, old quartz movements need servicing too and even less people do them

[Anonymous No.15669455]

>>15669426
Weren't nips got caught some years ago when they were selling their expensive glorious nippon industrial steel (no meme) and the rest of the countries realized the steel wasn't that good and it was fake?

>>15669417
Yes, cheap quartz watches are good and reliable, buy from seiko,casio and citizen and your watch won't fail. Mechanical watches are for people interested in mechanical movements and watches and less in accuracy or price. It's pretty hard not buying something from China, they are everywhere.

[Anonymous No.15669461]

I have basically no experience with mechanical watches and I want to spend about $3,000 on an automatic. I love motorsports and have looked at Tag Heuer due to their history in that space and current designs inspired by it, but I understand that the company in general has its issues.

Is there anything else I could look at with a strong motorsports link in that price range? Or is an automatic Carrera not that bad compared to the $1500 quartzes?
Rolex is the only other brand that could really compare in the motorsport aspect to my knowledge, but they're way out of my budget of course.

I know Breitling, Tudor, and some other brands have at least some sponsorship history. And Omega, which I have a general positive opinion on, has some history with the Speedmaster. But what else is out there?

[Anonymous No.15669464]

>>15669461
seiko

[Anonymous No.15669466]

>>15669381

[Anonymous No.15669470]

>>15669466
why do they make the lugs so fucking big?
I want a HOMOS but I'm a 6.5 inch wristlet, how am I ever going to make that work?

[Anonymous No.15669471]

>>15669464

I know Seiko's pretty well respected, but what have they done with motorsports?

[Anonymous No.15669479]

>>15668023
They fucked up both my orders (pic related, right was far from brand new, left took four shipments to get a non-defective watch) which is inexcusable given the price point they are targeting, but they are responsive regarding making things right and provided significant partial refunds, so you may get "lucky" in that sense. The watches themselves otherwise are fine. Would honestly use the provided apology discounts to purchase another, but want to space out my purchases to see what else they release.

[Anonymous No.15669481]

>>15669471
i was joking and didnt read your post. but you should check out yema, they actually have some great ones

[Anonymous No.15669490]

>>15669470
It's a test to see how much of a faggot you are to consider buying a HOMOS

[Anonymous No.15669503]

>>15669490
Their midnight blue with gold gives me half chub

[Anonymous No.15669507]

>>15669471
>>15669481
You might have been joking, but Seiko did some F1 sponsoring in the 2000s

[Anonymous No.15669512]

>>15669466
>Even the small model has lugs for dayyys

Lol at those who paid top euro for this german, commie kike trash. Sterile, ikea looking motherfuckers.

[Anonymous No.15669522]

>>15669507
And some Rallye

[Anonymous No.15669526]

>>15669377
Here's your nomos, bro. But we fixed the lugs and you don't have to explain why you paid thousands for a daniel wellington.
>yeah you see, i'm a bit of an enthusiast and i the movement of it is really important to me. It is mechanical
>Like in my grandpas clock? You paid how much?
>GIRLS_WHISPERING_AND_LAUGHING_IN_BACKGROUND.JPG

[Anonymous No.15669527]

>>15669470
With that wrist, get the smallest size with Neomatic movement watches (or the smallest tangente), I think they have around 44mm lug to lug, which is really reasonable, watches no bigger than 38mm. People without chad wrist probably pick the bigger versions and they fuck up because then the lug to lug scalates to 48mm and even more I think.

See this channel nomos reviews, the guy has 16cm wrists, on this video, the watch is 39mm size and the watch is already pushing the limits but still ok at 48mm lug to lug, he has other reviews with smaller homos watches.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX1Kne4HHuU

[Anonymous No.15669531]

>>15669526
>>15669526
Model number?

[Anonymous No.15669532]

>>15669527
It's the huge gap between lug end and case, you blind retard. Makes lugs look huge, even on this small shitter.

[Anonymous No.15669535]

>>15669527
>unsigned crown at this price point
really now?

[Anonymous No.15669538]

>>15669107
Well what you said is true but my point is like all divers today are basically descendants of the submariner on some level, you can go autistic and say technically it goes back to the blancpain 50 fathoms buy nobody really cares. Same can be said for styling from the OP and datejust, rolex cornered the date display and cyclops. Rolex popularized the oyster bracelet and the jubilee as well.

Rolex basically set half the watch trends we have now so that's why I think they have become the brand and the icon they are now. People have an eye for the real deal, the original style if you will. Now there is an argument to be made that they are overpriced as fuck and you can get the same thing from some Chinese shitter, but I think this is an overlooked aspect as to why rolex is rolex.

[Anonymous No.15669543]

>>15669538
What? Dude literally all watches in the 50s and 60s looked almost exactly the same.

[Anonymous No.15669544]

>>15669531
Casio LTP-E148L-7AEF
They consider it a womans model i guess. Usually all the male stuff of the TP line is MTP, female or unisex LTP. But it's 40 mm, 46 mm lug to lug. A guy can wear it easy. Could be even 36 mm, would still wear.
>>15669535
Just nomos things. They are basically laughing into the face of their customers. Fully right so.

[Anonymous No.15669550]

>>15669526
I think girls would be if anything more inclined to hang out with you if you can comfortably spend that much on something. They'll think you can afford to buy their stupid overpriced shit.

[Anonymous No.15669555]

>>15669202
It looks like your taste somehow got worse. Top right is a nice vintage piece, top left not bad looking watch. The bottom row of the watches you wear now are absolute bottom of the barrel mall shitters. Please at least cop some nice alibaba specials for fucks sake anon.

[Anonymous No.15669557]

What is today's "solid tool watch" like Rolex was back in the day?

[Anonymous No.15669559]

>>15669550
Oh hell yeah, can't think of anything better than being a walking wallet for gold diggers. Truly weak beta shit, my dude.

[Anonymous No.15669561]

>>15669550
women have no idea about watches unless it's rolex
do you know how much a woman's handbag costs? do you give a shit about their bag at all? no? it's the same principle for women.

[Anonymous No.15669562]

>>15669544
>Casio LTP-E148L-7AEF

I have baby wrists so it seems perfect for me, but where can I find it?

[Anonymous No.15669568]

>>15669557
Casio

[Anonymous No.15669571]

>>15669562
Good question. A quick google search and it seems like they are sold out on some platforms. Maybe used one. Enjoy the search. And if nothing comes up, there are plenty of these fashion shitters from all brands.

[Anonymous No.15669572]

>>15669559
>>15669561
I'm not saying I like it I'm just saying what I've observed.

[Anonymous No.15669573]

>>15669571
Fuck the fashion shitters the casio looks fantastic, I found a black one on ebay but I need the one in your picture

[Anonymous No.15669574]

>>15669543
When do you think those rolex styles came out brainlet.

[Anonymous No.15669575]

>>15669572
watches are like the one venue of personal
fashion expression men have left
you really should not give a fuck what women think about watches, the only person's opinion on your watch that matters is your own

[Anonymous No.15669582]

>>15669557
Digital watches kind of ruined the concept but probably g shocks and seiko 5's which is pretty lame unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.15669585]

>>15669582
How did they ruin the concept?

[Anonymous No.15669587]

>>15669572
Ok, sorry then. My hatred for nomos just fuels my butthurt, i guess.
>>15669573
Yeah, that small seconds adds what is missing in the other fashion shitters. Regular seconds hand on an empty dial looks just cheap. And most of the other watches don't bother to use a small seconds hand.

The white one seems indeed be sold out. Didn't know it was that popular. Check out instagram too. Tags like casio sapphire or serial number might find you some private seller. Don't get scammed tho.

[Anonymous No.15669588]

>>15669557
Probably Sinn, they cost around 1k-2k eur, expensive but still affordable, similar to old Rolex.

>>15669568
Not Casio, they cost almost nothing compared to the cost of an old rolex, it was about 1 month of average salary.

>>15669574
https://youtu.be/SqnIeJ5c8PQ

[Anonymous No.15669594]

>>15669575
I never said I cared

[Anonymous No.15669598]

>>15669588
>Sinn
>toolwatch

Idea of a toolwatch is also to be cheap. Everything over 300$ is not viable, nobody is going to wrench his car with a sinn.

[Anonymous No.15669604]

>>15669598
You're talking more about a beater

[Anonymous No.15669609]

>>15669604
There is no point to calling something a tool watch if you don't expect it to get beaten around a bit

[Anonymous No.15669612]

>>15669609
Well I said casio and no one backed me up on that one

[Anonymous No.15669617]

Arguably any watch that costs more than $300 is a luxury watch. A lot of the terms watchfags use are totally ridiculous to normal people. For watchfags you can't call it a luxury watch unless it's over $3000 but for many people over $200 for a watch is a lot. This is why a lot of mall shitters sell, because that's what's reasonable to the average person.
In your granddad's day people were leaping out of airplanes with shit ass field watches that probably had 0 resistance to water, magnetism, shock, or anything and cost the equivalent of $100-$300 and those watches were able to take it all.
Now, people pay $10,000 for a "tool watch" so they can say they are no longer just wearing shitters and now have a quality watch, then it sits in a safe and the most water it sees is when you wash your hands in the men's room.
Watches are the biggest farce known to man

[Anonymous No.15669618]

>>15668207
I have a negative display garmin and g shock. The Garmin has anti reflective coated glass and the G shock does not. That's really the deciding factor on how easily you can read them. If I don't hold the G shock straight then it can look like it just displays 88:88:88 but it's really not a problem unless you want to see the time while you are doing something that you can't rotate fully.

[Anonymous No.15669621]

>>15669512
They made their own movements and charge upwards of $1000 for a case and face that took 30 minutes to design under the jewish Bauhaus style.. Fuck those kikes.

>>15669526
Much better

[Anonymous No.15669622]

>>15669617
>For watchfags you can't call it a luxury watch unless it's over $3000 but for many people over $200 for a watch is a lot.
These same people think nothing of putting down $1200 for a phone, but no one would call their iphone a luxury product.

[Anonymous No.15669626]

>>15669526
https://www.fngeen.com/product/casio-sapphire-crystal-cream-dial-blue-genuine-leather-strap/

Alright bro, this is literally the only one I've found that isn't on a website that only ships to Russia. I'm 99% sure this is just a chinese repro so now I'm depressed.

[Anonymous No.15669627]

>>15669622
That is a really bad comparison.

[Anonymous No.15669628]

>>15669622
Or 500 to 800 on a gun.

[Anonymous No.15669629]

>>15669627
Not at all.

[Anonymous No.15669637]

>>15669617
Agreed. If it costs more than a certain percentage of a persons monthly income, it is luxury.

The old watches, due to a simpler and more robust construction could take it because they were just less fragile. Unlike the faggotry that is offered today. But not all of course and what you said is right, there was a good amount of unfit shitters that still could handle the job.

The retards that get luxury tool watches just use the excuse of "quality" to cope with their expensive toy. They will use any mental gymnastics to bend reality until it fits them.

[Anonymous No.15669639]

>>15669588

It's almost like I said you could go back before the submariner but nobody gives a shit. Rolex didn't invent anything but they perfected things and brought them to mass market. Their style then became the defacto watch styling everyone else followed. And by that I mean down market pieces.

[Anonymous No.15669648]

>>15669598
Tool watch is a watch with an specific purpose, a chrono for timing, a diver for diving, a pilot watch for pilots...In the past tool watches were that, tool watches, cheap watches were shit, you had to buy decent stuff that was waterproof and stuff like that.

a beater is something expendable, something that if it brokes you can replace it with no problems.

The most fair comparison you can do is taking the old price and translating it into modern day items, you can't really say that an old submariner was just a casio duro or a gshock, it would be more like a top end smarwatch, and totally not a 100$ watch.Old field watches?,for sure, the gshocks of the era, something cheap and reliable.

>>15669617
Totally, luxury is everything you don't really need and that is outside of the basic needs.Quartz and electronics gave us the opportunity of lowering the cost of watches and their efficiency. But that does not mean you can't buy expensive mechanical toolwatches, they are toolwatches, but if you are buying it, probably won't use them as tools, today I saw a new JLC diver with a cost of over 9000, a diver made for people who will never dive with it, probably not even at a pool.

[Anonymous No.15669650]

>>15669637
Yeah, nowadays people get a G-Shock because they don't want to wear their Rolex while mowing the lawn. It's pathetic. The term tool watch is meaningless because those watches are never subjected to anything but the softest conditions most of the time, so they are just luxury watches worn by LARPing homosexuals.
The only real tool watches are sub-$200 Casios or maybe Chinese homage autos since you pay $200 for something with a movement that is pretty robust and so ubiquitous that in the worst case scenario you can toss it and replace it wholesale

[Anonymous No.15669653]

>>15669648
I just dislike the term "tool watch." 99.9% of the time these watches are not used for their purpose and are worn by LARPers. If you aren't actually using the watch as a tool, calling it a tool watch is retarded. Watches are meant to be worn and used.

[Anonymous No.15669656]

>>15669621
Yup, they could change the case shape super easy. Everybody who has any idea about proportions (which are important in bauhaus and art) could tell them directly that lugs look out of proportion.
Someday i will write an email, i'll include the measurements and proportional calculations and ask them, why even an amateur like me, could see the problem.

>>15669626
Ask casio directly via mail if they have them somewhere. It'll be fine, you will find something. Or something similar. Search casios catalog, maybe they have an updated version of it. I'll take a look myself when i wake up and will reply with a pic of this casio. Even if i don't find anything.

[Anonymous No.15669658]

>>15669627

Consider that nobody has a problem in the US financing a new car for 25 thousand, and that is starting price for anything outside of cheap japanese imports. 30-35k for a new car or truck is even still relatively common. People will say "I need a reliable car so I have to buy new" but this is much as a cope as someone telling you then need a 10k watch because of a the heritage and fine swiss manufacturing. Just like a 100 dollar watch tells the time it's easy to get a reliable 5k car in the US and you could buy another 4 if that one somehow broke.

People put a 25K sedan ON FINANCE but call you a retard for buying a 5k watch in cash. The reality is everyone with a little money spends it on dumb 'luxury' purchases.

>>15669585

Before electronic watches you had to buy a nice mechanical watch if you were doing important manly shit and you didn't want it to break. You couldn't buy an aliexpress shitter with the same specs in 1950, back then you literally got what you payed for. With the invention of cheap electronic watches there is no need for buying anything nicer than a 100 dollar gshock as far as actual practicality. This kind of ruins the whole mystique of the working man saving a months wages for a rolex to replace his shitpile timex marlin.

[Anonymous No.15669661]

im not reading any of these long ass posts

[Anonymous No.15669664]

>>15669658
Are you bitching that quartz technology made it so a working man can buy a good watch for far, far less money rather than having to save up for a month to have a watch at all?
You realize that a working man can still save up for a month to get a nice watch, right? But why would he when he can buy a quartz watch that is much tougher and more accurate, for far less money? Especially if he's worried about it getting banged up while doing working man things?
You sound like a huge retard who has never actually had a manual labor job and have no idea how working men think. For a "working man" saving up for a month to get a watch is just a massive pain in the ass.

[Anonymous No.15669671]

>>15669653
Yes, but that's a buyer problem, the TOOL WATCH is a mental thing, the purchaser is telling himself that the watch is a tool, that he buys it for its specs, and not for the looks like jewelry.

>>15669661
based low attention span bro.

[Anonymous No.15669673]

"Entry Level Luxury"

[Anonymous No.15669675]

>>15669671
Yeah watch buyers are faggots
Watch buyers are a big reason why the watch industry as a whole is so fucked, because they believe the hype and demand nothing

[Anonymous No.15669684]

>>15669656
Thanks, maybe I'll get lucky and someone will get tired of theirs in the future.

[Anonymous No.15669689]

>>15669664

I'm not bitching I'm just explaining the facts and how it was in the 50's to save up for a nice watch vs being able to buy one for like an hours wage now. Stop sperging out like you are some offended communist. I don't care that someone can tell the time for cheap but the what I do think is that quartz watches took the soul out of watch making. You sound poor as fuck when you get so butthurt.

>You've never done manual work in ur lyfeeeee!

[Anonymous No.15669697]

>>15669689
You are talking about bullshit that doesn't matter to the working man. You are romanticizing the working man while understanding absolutely nothing about working men, because you are a retarded faggot who knows nothing of the world.
A working man doesn't want to save up for a month to buy a watch with SOUL that would just be a shitter to watchfags anyway since it doesn't cost ten million dollars and was up Paul Newman's ass for seven years.
A working man wants to buy a watch that will still let him buy dinner that night and pay his rent in 2 weeks. The invention of the quartz watch was a huge boon to the working man.
You are just an immense retard.

[Anonymous No.15669711]

>>15669697

How many times to I have to explain you dense faggot.
>past: You HAVE to save up for a nice mechanical if you want something reliable and accurate
>now: You can buy any 100 dollar casio from china

While yes that makes it easier for people to tell the time, we are talking about watch collecting here, not universalizing the ability to tell time for the cheapest cost possible. Why do you even come on here if you apparently detest the idea of any watch that is relatively expensive. It's obvious to anyone who isn't an idiot that the invention of quartz watches has made mechanical watches and the traditional european watch making industry completely redundant. The reality is watches are now male fashion items. Which is why we are on a fashion board. I don't see how you can have any passion for watch making or style when your primary response seems to be coming on here waving your arms around about THE WORKING MAN.

You don't care about horology you are just a communist faggot.

[Anonymous No.15669713]

>>15669711
You don't care about horology because you hate the idea of people being able to more easily obtain an accurate and reliable timepiece.

[Anonymous No.15669719]

>>15669713
If that is you attitude we could literally just burn down every factory except those manufacturing gshocks and be done with it. They durable and have all functions for the cheapest price.

How can you say that you care about horology then? Your primary interest clearly isn't watches its making the ability of people to tell time cheap.

[Anonymous No.15669720]

>>15669719
You are just demonstrating that you don't understand what horology actually is.

[Anonymous No.15669722]

>>15669720
horology
The science of measuring time
The art of making instruments for indicating time

I don't believe either of these involve "equipping every man with an affordable time keeping device" Your interests are clearly economic.

[Anonymous No.15669739]

Ok but with all this memeing on HOMOS, I have yet to find a bauhaus automatic chinkwatch at 34mm or below.

[Anonymous No.15669748]

>>15669739
You can get the Stowa Antea KS and the Max Bill, both genuine bauhaus watches that cost less than the rip off homos tangente.

[Anonymous No.15669760]

>>15669739
go with late 1940's Swiss minimalistic functional design instead:
https://www.jomashop.com/mondaine-watch-a128-30008-16sbb.html
33mm, diameter 20mm lugs, swiss made, Sellita SW200-1, all sapphire, display caseback, original design, opportunity to larp as a swiss railway man, $299

[Anonymous No.15669763]

>>15669760
inb4 ladies watch: nope, it's the "petite" model, the ladies one is 30mm with 16mm lugs

[Anonymous No.15669800]

>>15669070
>All watches unironically descend from luxury swiss

"""luxury swiss""" wasnt even a thing until after the quartz crisis you poofer
before the 1980s the swiss WERE the shitters, literally most of swiss production was mass market 1 jewel shitters

[Anonymous No.15669803]

>>15669629
Yeah it is. With cars, guns, and phones you presumably get more functionality for the increased cost. Watches are the opposite. You get worse accuracy and durability as well as less functions with a rolex compared to a casio for vastly more money. It is a veblen good.

[Anonymous No.15669836]

Hey kings,

can someone explain the tag heuer hate to me? I'm looking at getting a watch as a celebration if I get a bonus/promotion end of the year. Looking at the aquaracer, thoughts?

[Anonymous No.15669921]

>>15669836
>tag huehue

[Anonymous No.15669923]

>>15669836

They made a lot of dogshit in the 90's and people get assblasted that they charge 1000 plus for quartz pieces. Considering you can get the automatic aqua racers for like 1800 or so I don't think that's a bad deal for a nice looking diver with some brand heritage. Many high end fashion watch type brands would charge 5k plus for the same thing. Kind of ballsy but 'calibre 5' right on the dial when it's just an eta as well.

I will say the fact they are still doing pin and collar bracelets is bullshit though. All this being said I heavily considered the 41 automatic aquaracer but decided to look elsewhere. I don't think they are worse than any other 'premium' microbrand that charges 1k plus for a diver but people just seem to sperg out about them.

[Anonymous No.15669924]

>>15669836
Heuer was a respected name in watch making and it got bought out by a saudi guy who stuck his tacky companys name infront and proceeded to ruin the companies name for a decade or so before they got bought out by LVHM.

They make some nice watches, the aqua racer looks cool. The hate lingers for many people though.
People like >>15669921 mock them by making fun of the part of the name with credibility so you know they are super on the ball.

[Anonymous No.15669928]

>>15669622
an iPhone has almost infinete utility and can make you money if you use it at all, it's probably the best investment in a tool ever. Oh and it tells time even than every wrist watch.

[Anonymous No.15669969]

>>15669928
no, the best investment is a $200 xiaomi android phone that you can hack and it also does the exact same thing as an iphone aka make calls, surf shit, and browse twitter for nudes

[Anonymous No.15669973]

>>15669923
Thanks for the explanation. What did you end up getting?

[Anonymous No.15670006]

Got a question for my fellow /fa/scists:

What's the most expensive watch you'd purchase and wear comfortably without worrying about wear/abuse/vaule retention?

[Anonymous No.15670017]

>>15669315
It's an S10 so fuck Samsung?

[Anonymous No.15670023]

>>15670006
$550
enough to buy all microshitters and most of the japanese brands' catalogues, and basically all chinese homages under the sun

[Anonymous No.15670032]

>>15670006
I'd go out and buy a second hand tegemented sinn or Damasko.
wear and abuse would be redundant and I doubt they would loose too much value if I got them at a good price

[Anonymous No.15670038]

>>15670006
Spend €1000 for 100 identical f91's

[Anonymous No.15670041]

>>15670032
>loose

[Anonymous No.15670061]

>>15669177
dindu designs

[Anonymous No.15670096]

>>15669836
A few reasons
>Heuer was very highly regarded as one of the most competitive brands for a while and have quite a lot of achievements to their name. At one point they were one of the go-to for chronographs along with Breitling. When hard times came by, they were bough and fused with another brand then integrated into LVMH and many do not like the change of name as well as...
>the way they handle their reissues and classic models. They've been the first to start reissuing their stuff except with bigger dials, more (and often gaudier) colours and quartz movements without dropping the prices much. Models like the quartz Monaco are pretty hard to swallow when you know of Heuer's history.
>their prices are a little ridiculous, especially on quartz watches. You've probably read that "you shouldn't spend over 1000 bucks on a quartz", well that's pretty much where Tag's prices begin. It is somewhat justified bu so much of the work being done in-house as well as their very active R&D department.
>speaking of which, Tag Heuer is known for dumping loads and loads into R&D yet none of it really ever shows into the watches they make as they all seem to be cruising along on name recognition alone.
>their marketing in the 90s got quite obnoxious and in your face.
Things are changing, slowly, as Tag is under new leadership and have decided to polish their image and change direction. Things like the new Autavia Isograph could be seen as a good sign.

[Anonymous No.15670104]

>>15670006
$100, by which I mean ten separate f91-Ws.

[Anonymous No.15670108]

>>15670006
Depends on the watch itself not the price. I'd be nervous around anything above £500 if it were flashy or dressy but if it's a diver, tool watch or something too stealth-wealth to get me mugged I'd happily wear anything up to £2,000 without worrying

[Anonymous No.15670110]

>>15669557
>like Rolex was back in the day?
They never were.
They did a great job presenting themselves as that, but they never actually were.
The Explorer was taken to the the Everest and the GMT was useful for transcontinental pilots until more affordable and more versatile options appeared, that's basically about it.

[Anonymous No.15670119]

>>15669639
>perfected things and brought them to mass market.
Nope, you can just get any watch from that era and it's all the same shit.
>>15669617
Sounds like you're just poor.
>>15669588
>Probably Sinn, they cost around 1k-2k eur, expensive but still affordable, similar to old Rolex.
They cost 5k actually, the ones worth getting anyway. Same as Fortis, which I would consider another "tool brand" but...

[Anonymous No.15670121]

Friendly reminder that if you can't hammer a nail with the caseback of your watch, then you can't call it a tool watch.

[Anonymous No.15670145]

>>15669202
at least the Hilfiger looks interesting. but yeah get away from fashion brands. fashion brands are not watchmakers, you are buying cheap chinese shit for a high mark up.

[Anonymous No.15670172]

>>15669923
tag huehue deserves to be made fun of after being reduced to mallcore garbage.

[Anonymous No.15670183]

>>15669555
>>15670145
So any idea what i should get?
Im open for recommendations

[Anonymous No.15670194]

>>15670183
10 identical Van Cleef & Arpels Padlocks

[Anonymous No.15670195]

>>15668152
Can't improve perfection

[Anonymous No.15670206]

Does Pagani even have an OP36 ripoff?

[Anonymous No.15670211]

>>15670172
Fuck I hare reddit so much. Every single post there is so self gratifying. You assume because he is only using one hand to hold the watch the other would be taking the picture, but knowing reddit he's masturbating furiously to the thought of all the up likes and wear it in good health he is pandering for.

I despise everyone single one of those cunts to a man.

[Anonymous No.15670214]

>>15670172
Unironically a chinese homage watch. They're 90% the specs at 0.1% the cost, and if you're in uni you're probably not loaded. Even if you're not in uni they're simply much better value.

[Anonymous No.15670216]

>>15670214
meant for
>>15670183
obviously.

[Anonymous No.15670225]

>>15670216
Wait, so you didn't mean that modern Tags are just chinese homages to their classic models, but with swiss prices?
because they kinda are

[Anonymous No.15670227]

>>15670172
>automatic
had it been a quartz, the whole package would have been absolutely perfect

[Anonymous No.15670247]

>>15669538
>but my point is like all divers today are basically descendants of the submariner on some leve
That's an interesting way of saying 50 Fathoms faggot.
And Rolex stopped being inventive in the 40s.

[Anonymous No.15670250]

>>15670096
Also, the Calibre 5 with an off-the-shelf Sellita for 2500 Eurodollars

[Anonymous No.15670251]

Why do people wear bracelets, I honestly can't stand them rattling on my wrist when I wear one. I can't wear it tighter as well, because as soon as I step outside into the heat my wrist thickens ever so slightly, just enough for it to be uncomfortable.
Also it scrapes against my desk, my laptop, etc cetera.

[Anonymous No.15670254]

>>15670251
Robust
Don't get broken and disgusting by sweat.
Cools if it's hot.

[Anonymous No.15670268]

>>15670121
In the novels, James Bond used his watch as a fist weapon, and it wasn't a Submariner, it was a Explorer.

[Anonymous No.15670277]

>>15670268
Wasn't it an Oyster Perpetual so Rolex was tripping over themselves to put "Oyster Perpetual" on all their dials because they were the original hypebeast faggots?

[Anonymous No.15670285]

>>15670277
It's described as having 3/6/9 so no.

[Anonymous No.15670296]

>>15670277
I read some description and it was said that the watch had numbers that glow in the dark, so it was probably an Explorer, OP didn't had numbers. When they decided to make the movie the chose a submariner because they thought it was more suitable for an action man that usually is around water missions and I guess the author wasn't an autist enough to care for a small change like that, after all, it was a rolex watch, a watch the character wore because it was robust and reliable.

[Anonymous No.15670301]

Favorite microbrands?

[Anonymous No.15670303]

>>15670183
can't go wrong with Seiko, Citizen, Orient

[Anonymous No.15670304]

>>15670301
Phoibos and Zelos.

[Anonymous No.15670305]

>>15670301
the one thats always fucking sold out and now I gotta wait till next year like why the fuck

[Anonymous No.15670311]

>>15670301
Stowa,they have a decent range of models, heritage, they still do new models and some of their watches can be bought in many size.

[Anonymous No.15670320]

>>15670311
>microbrand

[Anonymous No.15670330]

Bund?

[Anonymous No.15670337]

>>15670183
orient, citizen, vostok, casio (edifice,gshock), glycine, hamilton

seiko is "okay", but not really the value buy anymore

you also have many micro/homage brands like Boldr, Phoibos, San Martin, Steeldive, Heimdallr etc that give very good product for a superb price because they are not big brands. You can have a titanium watch with hacking and handwind and 200m water resist with screwdown crown and sapphire crystal for under 300$

[Anonymous No.15670339]

>>15670330
Literally the ugliest watch strap in existence. NATO is a close second

[Anonymous No.15670349]

Are they any watch youtubers who aren't pretentious cunts or disgusting fanboy shills

I kinda like WatchArtSci
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJe2_IV7kWi6udyH5r5tEFQ

His videos are pretty comfy

[Anonymous No.15670351]

>>15670277
Well, Oyster Perpetual is just Rolex for waterproof automatic anyway.

[Anonymous No.15670352]

>>15670339
>the ugliest watch strap in existence
>he has not seen tweed straps

bund straps can look good depending on their shape

[Anonymous No.15670354]

>>15669479
Thanks, that's the kind of stuff I wanted to know, I guess If I buy from them will have to cross fingers and better getting a single watch to see how it goes.

[Anonymous No.15670368]

Best watch for a techwear fit?
>inb4 techwear gahy
I know, I don't care, asking about watches here

[Anonymous No.15670370]

>>15670368
some G-shock
boring watch for a boring style

[Anonymous No.15670373]

>>15670352

[Anonymous No.15670389]

>>15670368
some bell&ross meme watch

[Anonymous No.15670392]

>>15670370
Already wear a DW5600 with all my fits but I want to switch it up
>>15670389
I may be a massive fucking faggot, but I'm not gay enough to buy a B&R

[Anonymous No.15670397]

>>15670368
Seiko marinemaster (tuna)

[Anonymous No.15670404]

Milgauss with blue dial and green-tinted glass is the only Rolex that matters.

[Anonymous No.15670412]

>>15667932
I don’t know shit about watches but like the tank motif. I found this Seiko Men's SUP880. Is it complete shit? Anyone have a good rec for the Tank style?

[Anonymous No.15670421]

>>15670368
Bvlgari octo finnissimo
Ref 103077

[Anonymous No.15670423]

I'm a brokefag and summer is coming on the southern hemisphere, I want to buy the G-Shock GA-700-7A, should I do it bros? Do white G-Shocks get yellow stains after a few months/years?

[Anonymous No.15670426]

>>15670337
>You can have a titanium watch with hacking and handwind and 200m water resist with screwdown crown and sapphire crystal for under 300$
whih one would that be? also what's wrong with seiko?

[Anonymous No.15670432]

>>15670423
Also I'm going to wear it as a beater on sunny days, never had a watch before, maybe next year I will purchase something more sober in the same price range.

[Anonymous No.15670439]

>>15670412

Cartier

[Anonymous No.15670441]

>>15670423
>round g-shock
>ana-digi

It's too late.

[Anonymous No.15670459]

>>15670426
boldr venture
>whats wrong with seiko
their new stuff is more expensive, going in all sorts of directions and theres seemingly a limited edition reissue cashgrab every week

>>15670412
its not a bad watch, its probably the closest easily available tank homage from a major brand. Yes its quartz but whatever, its 250$ iirc

[Anonymous No.15670463]

>>15667932
Do you /fa/gs know of any other watches with Chinese numerals? Pic related is my Sino-Soviet friendship watch, made by Vostok for the Chinese prior to the Sino-Soviet split.

[Anonymous No.15670464]

>>15670423
Get the
DW5600MW-7
Instead or the
GWX5700CS-7
If you really want something round

[Anonymous No.15670468]

>>15670463
Literal Seagull Chinese watches

[Anonymous No.15670473]

>>15670368
Don't wear watches with techwear you fucking reddit retard. Watches are jewelry and obsolesced by more modern technology. They still have their place in society, but not in your techninja fantasy.

[Anonymous No.15670477]

>>15670463
thats a legit druzhba? how much did you pay for it? these are quite rare right

>Do you /fa/gs know of any other watches with Chinese numerals?
-vager hauers all chinese characters moonphase
-vager hauers all chinese characters traditional 12 shi-chen

[Anonymous No.15670480]

>>15670463
There are a few on
https://www.good-stuffs.com
https://www.good-stuffs.com/Shanghai-Lao-Luan-wristwatch-hours-in-Chinese-character_p_516.html
I really like this one
https://www.good-stuffs.com/Fashionable-Shanghai-Jelly-moon-mechanical-watch_p_454.html
And this one
https://www.good-stuffs.com/All-Chinese-characters-traditional-12-Shi-Chen-watch-by-Vager-Hauers_p_317.html

[Anonymous No.15670494]

Any microbrands that take inspiration from IWC pilot models? I think only SanMartin and Smiths do some. I find it ridiculous IWC charges 6k for a basic three hander, but thats life.

[Anonymous No.15670496]

>>15670423
>Do white G-Shocks get yellow stains after a few months/years?
after years yes but i wouldnt worry about it. Even black will eventually crumble anyway. You can get aftermarket straps and adapters now.

[Anonymous No.15670501]

>>15670494
There are a few German companies that make em in the $500 to $1,500 range
Stowa is one, there is some other german company who I cant remember the name of

[Anonymous No.15670506]

>>15670501
Junkers
Laco

[Anonymous No.15670510]

>>15670501
>>15670506
No, I meant actual IWC models, like the Spitfire. Stowa, LaCo and Junkers make b-uhren, IWC made watches for the RAF. They look a bit different.

[Anonymous No.15670512]

>>15670510
luftwaffe>the rest

[Anonymous No.15670515]

>>15670477
I paid $60 to some dude who sells watches in Ukraine, I don't know a ton about it. I got it because it seemed like a cool piece of history and I like mechanical watches.

Thanks for the suggestions. I've started to study Chinese and would like to increase my exposure to Chinese numerals without beating up my cool historical timepiece.

>>15670480
Thanks, this one has the numeral set I'm looking for and is most in line with my tastes:
https://www.good-stuffs.com/Shanghai-Friendship-hand-winding-mechanical-watch_p_272.html

>>15670468
I'm having trouble finding those but I might just be mentally deficient.

[Anonymous No.15670516]

>>15670512
I already have a flieger, tho.

[Anonymous No.15670525]

>>15670464
Thanks for the tips bro.

>>15670441
Redpill me, what's the problem with analogic-digital? I'm completely oblivious to watches. Should I get an analogic only if it's made out of metal?

[Anonymous No.15670528]

New
>>15670521
>>15670521
>>15670521

[Anonymous No.15670534]

>>15670525
theres no problem some autists just dont like how it looks or they have a problem with "mixing styles"

get it if you like it, its a gshock

[Anonymous No.15670551]

>>15669479
those dials are cool-looking.

[Anonymous No.15670565]

>>15670515
the druzhba is kind of a unicorn for collectors and good examples of it are hard to come by, since they are so old. Enjoy your piece, anon

[Anonymous No.15670574]

>>15670463
it's got the wrong hands though

[Anonymous No.15670583]

>>15670565
>>15670574
What are the correct hands? Can you link me to a good guide on this watch?

[Anonymous No.15670739]

>>15669187
Yeah. There is also the rule that 60% of the VALUE of a watch has to be swiss, to get the swiss made branding. It's all a fucking joke, leaves huge gap for cucklex and other swiss scams to game the system.
It was 50% before but they took 10 years to change it to 60%. Ten fucking years. Just imagine the lobbying kikery that happened on the background to slow it all down.

[Anonymous No.15670893]

>>15670339
>tfw TGV memed me into getting a NATO strap
I like it well enough, but looks like shit with my winter fits

[Anonymous No.15671066]

>>15670006
I'd say $ 200 as I just own one (1) $ 200 Seiko I bought 15 years ago and I've been wearing it all day everyday on a NATO strap ever since.

[Anonymous No.15671086]

>>15669202
>manguun
Isn't that Kaufhofs (or Karstadts?) no-name brand? (though they had some really hot ladies underwear designs. Many faps were had to their offers leaflet in the thursday newspaper… Childhood memories)
But apart from the PCA thing in the upper right corner which somewhat has character, it's a pretty shitty collection. If you like them, fine, but it's all objectively crap. sorry to say that.

[Anonymous No.15671598]

>>15667932
haahha

[Anonymous No.15671624]

>>15667932
wahawh

[Anonymous No.15671665]

>>15667932
Am I /fa/?