Fragrance General

[Anonymous No.15462298]

Jeremy Edition

last thread >>15451221
BBC perfume documentary (part 1 of 3):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=annRzLYrRwM [Embed]
4160 Tuesdays' Sarah McCartney talk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOIjVZO8azQ [Embed]
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w2c bottles
(USA-Canada)
http://www.fragrancenet.com
http://www.fragrancebuy.ca
http://www.luckyscent.com
https://www.fragrancex.com

Use Google to obtain the maximum discount code at fragrancenet (37%).

(Europe)
http://www.notino.com (see directory at bottom for your country)
https://www.jovoyparis.uk/
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general info
http://perfumesociety.org/discover-perfume/an-introduction/
https://nstperfume.com/2008/11/14/new-to-perfume-and-want-to-learn-more/
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various fragrance communities/review sites/blogs
http://www.fragrantica.com/
http://www.basenotes.net/
http://www.parfumo.net/
http://www.nstperfume.com/
http://www.boisdejasmin.com/
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w2c samples
http://www.luckyscent.com/
http://www.theperfumedcourt.com/
http://www.surrendertochance.com/
http://www.perfumista.co.uk/
http://www.ausliebezumduft.de/fragrances.html
https://www.jovoyparis.uk/
https://www.lessenteurs.com/
https://bloomperfume.co.uk/
https://lulua.pl/en/
https://moodscentbar.com/en/
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on DIY fragrances
http://www.perfumersapprentice.com/
https://pellwall.com/
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affordable snice scents
http://pastebin.com/VX6RDpm6

[Anonymous No.15462326]

Santal Royal by Guerlain sort of stinks like female armpit smell. Gross.

[Anonymous No.15462370]

Just got a bottle of feve! Post ur pickups

[Anonymous No.15462391]

>>15462370
>buys dior prive
>not leather oud
>literally didn't buy the only one worth buying from the line

Why have you done this?

[Anonymous No.15462397]

>>15462370
nice, glad you found a vanilla scent you enjoy. I have something coming later this week I'll post if you want.
>>15462391
hey buddy dont forget about ambre nuit

[Anonymous No.15462414]

Frag for this feel?

[Anonymous No.15462428]

>>15462391
the first time i smelled it I felt like it smelled like a barn ... I don’t want people to think i don’t wash my ass
>>15462397
I know there’s no way to manipulate this 2d image, but the tiny bottle next to Feve is a ambre nuit sample and the next bottle i’m purchasing probs haha

[Anonymous No.15462430]

>>15462414
Dior Fahrenheit

[Anonymous No.15462437]

>>15462370
bean. delicious bean smell

[Anonymous No.15462441]

First time buyer 26m. I want 8-12 solid frags. Willing to spend like $300 max per bottle. Where do I start? Also, best place online to get samples in the US?

[Anonymous No.15462448]

>>15462441
parfums de marly nd scentsplit

[Anonymous No.15462450]

>>15462391
Homme is great.

[Anonymous No.15462460]

>>15462441
beau du jour

[Anonymous No.15462462]

>>15462437
Don’t forget play-doh!

[Anonymous No.15462473]

>>15462326
>stinks like female armpit smell. Gross.
You must have made a typo.

[Anonymous No.15462482]

I'm probably going on a vacation to the Virgin Islands in the winter, if Corona allows it. I don't have a perfume that fits a tropical place. Should I just buy a decant of Virgin Island Water? Ideally I want something that smells beachy/tropical but sexy, I don't want to smell like a banana or fruit punch or something.

[Anonymous No.15462491]

proper thread anyone?

[Anonymous No.15462494]

>>15462326
I am slightly erect

[Anonymous No.15462499]

>>15462491
Fuck your clique shit.

[Anonymous No.15462526]

>>15462298
>Jeremy Edition
based

[Anonymous No.15462546]

>>15462298
>jeremy edition
>pic is the polar opposite of jeremy
??

[Anonymous No.15462611]

so comfy

[Anonymous No.15462631]

anon who went in asking about his old job wearing 3 sprays of sauvage and an outfit meant for clubbing.
Got my job back and hopefully start on the rota monday.
What should I cop with my first paycheck in almost a year to celebrate? I'm thinking decants of Joob and Costa Azzurra Acqua

[Anonymous No.15462664]

>>15462494
>>15462473
I bet you like feet as well.

[Anonymous No.15462665]

Is The One EDP legit, or is it over hyped?

[Anonymous No.15462669]

>>15462665
Some people here think it is great and is among their favorite fragrances. Personally, I think it is a 5/10 generic oriental designer frag. It further gets bad rep because youtubers keep pushing it to hordes of indians and arabs as the ideal "date night" frag alongside armani code/stronger with you.

[Anonymous No.15462677]

>>15462669
I hear it's a compliment bomb. What would you say is superior for the same price?

[Anonymous No.15462686]

>>15462664
I do, anime feet are a nice thing to fap to now and then

[Anonymous No.15462689]

>>15462441
Start with cheapies and buy 5 ml samples on eBay.

[Anonymous No.15462693]

Does anyone else go anosmic to Azzaro PH really quickly? I know longevity isn’t what it was in the 80’s but I refuse to believe it’s 45 minutes, and I can always smell the base on myself the next morning. I have the pic related refillable bottle formulation.

[Anonymous No.15462707]

>>15462677
Superior in what? Being a better "date night" or comlpiment bomb fragrance or being subjectively (or even objectively) better than it?
If you want compliments literally just stick with Sauvage/CDNIM/Eros/Ultra Male/Invictus/any fragrance with massive projection. What gets you the compliments is the combination of a decent scent with an obnoxiously big projection.
As to being superior in strictu sensu, I would point out Zadig & Voltair This is Him, which is a much more interesting spicy oriental fragrance (although an outlier of this genre, as it is sweet-milky-sandalwoody) that is slightly cheaper than the one. If I were to pick a designer for "date night", it would be either this or boss bottled if I feel like smelling like cardboard. Niche is much better for this purpose, though.
>>15462686
Ew, degenerate-kun. Feet, and thus humiliation fetish is a symptom of acute mental illness.
>>15462441
>first time buyer
>willing to spend $2400-3600 from the get go
Wew. Just find one or two frags easy and versatile that you like to begin developing you nose and buy them slowly, mainly through decants. It gets a point that the main reason we buy decants is not to save money but to save space, so keep that in mind.
If you do want to go all in, Tom Ford makes good (and overpriced) fragrances that will please both the normies and the grognards.

[Anonymous No.15462873]

>>15462397
what does ambre nuit smell like?

[Anonymous No.15462912]

>>15462693
I acquired an original formulation through a trade recently and it seems to last an eternity on me, although I tend to wear my fragrances pretty light, so the drop in performance maybe just isn't as noticeable? Absolutely based frag though.

[Anonymous No.15463039]

>>15462693
Yes, me

[Anonymous No.15463042]

>>15462441
people will tell you a lot of things but just know you'll eventually reach the point where you're chasing Aventus (usually by buying clones or copeceling about how it's actually shit and you don't need it, too expensive etc.) and you'll save yourself a lot of grief by just buying a bottle from the getgo

[Anonymous No.15463045]

>>15462873
lightly spiced amber rose

[Anonymous No.15463049]

>>15462873
It smells like ambre precieux + a urinal cake
or a more cucked version of grand soir, if you're into owning inferior scents

[Anonymous No.15463053]

>>15463049
its dryer, less sweet. gs is kind of pissy also.

[Anonymous No.15463064]

>>15462631
how about you stop being an idiot and put that money into a retirement account instead, dummy

[Anonymous No.15463067]

are there some cheap body mists i can purchase as a slightly femmy guy to add an appealing scent that isnt sickly sweet? girls have a shitload of options and im looking to cut back on deodorant because it irritates my skin.

[Anonymous No.15463126]

>>15462326

Not based and very gay

[Anonymous No.15463145]

>>15463067
Use alum stone instead of a deodorant

[Anonymous No.15463158]

>>15463145
pretty sure its the effect of the aluminium in blocking my pores that causes the irritation

[Anonymous No.15463166]

>>15463158
Deodorant doesn't contain aluminum, but it frequently has alcohol

[Anonymous No.15463168]

>>15463166
antiperspirant does, i mean that

[Anonymous No.15463178]

>>15463168
Clinique makes a good non Al anti-p

[Anonymous No.15463199]

>>15463064
I've already got a nice pension plan organised that gets chipped into each week

[Anonymous No.15463271]

I wanna tray bay rum after shave. Is pinnaud edition good?

[Anonymous No.15463278]

>>15463178
i suspect its anti-p thats the problem, i shave so clogging pores is perhaps not the brightest of ideas.

[Anonymous No.15463280]

femanon here

anyone able to recommend an elegant fragrance, something with rose / vanilla in it?

also preferably an EDP :)

[Anonymous No.15463283]

>>15463049
okay mr spicebomb

[Anonymous No.15463290]

>>15463280
tocade rochas

[Anonymous No.15463294]

Shit thread

[Anonymous No.15463316]

>>15463294
glad you could make a contribution

[Anonymous No.15463332]

>>15463271
The best

[Anonymous No.15463361]

what is he wearing

[Anonymous No.15463364]

>>15463361
Wonderoud or jubilation

[Anonymous No.15463369]

>>15463361
Invasion Barbare

[Anonymous No.15463377]

First time I’ve been here for a month. It feels so different, what’s happened?

[Anonymous No.15463379]

>>15463361

[Anonymous No.15463423]

>>15462370
Got a bottle of Yatagan before it's impossible to get a good one after reformulation

[Anonymous No.15463426]

>>15463377
I think people have less money to spend frivolously now

[Anonymous No.15463433]

>>15463278
I don't use antiperspirant anymore and nowadays I just use a lush solid deodorant thing. Smells like lemon and that's it really, but it works great

[Anonymous No.15463434]

>>15462370
Also I got 20ml of NYI for cheap, such an amazing scent

[Anonymous No.15463435]

>>15462370
Smells too much like baby wipes.

[Anonymous No.15463437]

>>15462665
Not bad but awful longevity. Very awful.

[Anonymous No.15463455]

>>15463426
Feels good to be an essential worker and make even more cash during rona than usual

[Anonymous No.15463465]

>>15463423
When was the reformulation?

[Anonymous No.15463467]

Why do I see so many people talking shit about Aventus and, simultaneously, so many people chasing Aventus clones or cheaper alternatives? Are the people who talk shit just coping poorfags?

I have tried many frags and Aventus is currently my daily. I am constantly complemented, which isn’t my goal, but still.

[Anonymous No.15463472]

>>15463465
2020, which is why there's been a lot of sales on the old one many stores are out of Yatagan right now but starting to restock the new formula

[Anonymous No.15463479]

>>15463467
It's popular. When it's popular the poor fags want it and the haters hate on it.

[Anonymous No.15463481]

>>15463467
That's part of it definitely.

I think a lot of fragrance hobbyists are contrarian and like mad shit that smells like the holocaust (as do I, not a knock). Aventus is super popular and not very challenging so it's perceived as a 'casual' frag.

I think the two groups (clone guys) and the people who talk shit are not entirely meshed, there's crossover but it's primarily two separate groups.

[Anonymous No.15463513]

>>15463467
I honestly think Creed’s shit quality control is a factor. I know it’s majorly hyped but because it’s notorious for varying wildly between batches it means that not only may people have different experiences but combine that with the amount of clones that try to emulate specific batches it’s a shitshow.

I own it, I really like it. I only paid £120 for 50ml (partially used from a friend) and I don’t think it’s worth full price. It’s really nice, but overpriced.

[Anonymous No.15463518]

>>15463467
Most are Forsure poorfags. I never understood complaining about the retail price of Aventus when 100ml bottles are so readily available for like $250. Anyone telling you Aventus sucks is a faggot who probably wears nasty smelling grandma shit.

[Anonymous No.15463566]

>>15463467
M8, we shit on people for wearing clones constantly. It’s tacky poorfag behavior. That said, I, personally, feel that while Aventus smells snice, it’s also been cloned enough now that it’s not particularly distinct and thus not worth paying anywhere near MSRP for. It’s become a victim of its own success. Why pay 400.00 for something that smells like half the generic shower gel designers out there now?

[Anonymous No.15463589]

>>15463379
Correct answer.

[Anonymous No.15463593]

>>15463377
A huge shitshow created by shitposters happened and now they left.

[Anonymous No.15463594]

>>15463467
only a poorfag would buy Aventus to begin with, because they have no taste

[Anonymous No.15463605]

is scent of peace an aventus clone?

[Anonymous No.15463609]

PINEAPPLE THEREFORE CLONE

[Anonymous No.15463615]

>>15463605
>>15463609
The real redpill is that all designer releases for the past 4 years are clones of Aventus.

[Anonymous No.15463619]

>>15463609
It’s not the pineapple, brainlet. Most aventus clones (and batches) don’t smell like pineapple at all. It is the acidic smokiness that makes aventus interesting.

[Anonymous No.15463623]

>>15463609
M8, go look at the note lists. Most of these Aventus clones contain almost the exact same notes. Maybe they’ll use citrus instead of pineapple or something, or add a couple things, but when they’re that similar, clone is a fair classification.

[Anonymous No.15463664]

Azzaro Wild Mint

It's been getting some hype lately but is it actually decent?
I like the note of mint; kinda thinking of blind buying it

[Anonymous No.15463692]

>>15463361
tux

[Anonymous No.15463702]

I’m trying to mask the smell of cum in my bedroom by lighting a candle for an hour a day. I ordered one of these. Any other recs?

[Anonymous No.15463708]

>>15463361
NYI fwagwange du boi

[Anonymous No.15463718]

Ordered a sample of Yatagan, Xerjoff Fiero and montale Full Incense, what am i in for?

[Anonymous No.15463724]

>>15463718
You just went Montale full retard

[Anonymous No.15463736]

>>15463434
literally the most boring scent ever

[Anonymous No.15463767]

>>15463718
Interested in fiero

[Anonymous No.15463820]

>>15462693
I get up to 7 hours from 7 sprays on collarbones and chest. Actually, it performs a tad better than original Rive Gauche PH. I have the current iteration of APH.

[Anonymous No.15463821]

>>15463724
Yeah, I'm not particularly convinced about Montale, they have like a million different scents available, the bottles all look the same, and i get overall cheap shit mass produced kinda vibe, but someone here said that it is one of their best scents, so I took it to try out

[Anonymous No.15463833]

>>15463821
At least you're not blind buying. Montale and Mancera really are awful

[Anonymous No.15463834]

>>15463821
Montale are worth what they cost on the gray market. I have chocolate greedy and will cop intense cafe soon

[Anonymous No.15463860]

>>15463434
Don’t listen to this >>15463736 mental stillborn. Now you must try Creed Bois du Portugal to find which is better for you.

[Anonymous No.15463871]

>>15463833
Aoud Cuir d’Arabie got five stars from LT and who are you?

[Anonymous No.15463884]

Jovan White Musk smells like a lighter (and better) JPG Le Male. Fight me.

[Anonymous No.15463883]

>>15463860
>Creed Bois du Portugal
Frank Sinatra, Fred Astaire and Benjamin Disraeli’s favourite frag.

[Anonymous No.15463897]

>>15463884
Jovan is based. If someone put Sex Appeal into a niche bottle people would pay $250 for it.

[Anonymous No.15463925]

>>15463897
This shit is disgusting doggie

[Anonymous No.15463954]

>>15463566
WHO THE FUCK IS DUMB ENOUGH TO PAY RETAIL YOU IDIOT? RETAIL PRICE IS IRRELEVANT WHEN IT’S AVAILABLE AT DISCOUNTERS.

[Anonymous No.15463957]

>>15463605
No, if anything it’s closer to sauvage but it’s not a clone of either. Good scent with fantastic performance.

[Anonymous No.15463976]

>>15463954
The vast majority of people who buy frags, m8. Most people don’t even know discount sites exist, they just walk into Saks or whatever and buy it. That aside, even on discount sites, you’re paying 250.00 for something that now smells relatively generic due to pretty much every “blue” designer scent in the past 5 years or so copying.

[Anonymous No.15463979]

5 frags for the rest of your life, go

[Anonymous No.15463998]

>>15463954
>creed
>discounters
I hope you are enjoying your Club de Nuit Intense (for) Men.

[Anonymous No.15464000]

>>15463883
> Disraeli
I focking love this place.

[Anonymous No.15464012]

>>15463979
> 30ml for the rest of your life
You should be more ambitious than that, pal

[Anonymous No.15464014]

>>15464000
t.gorswipe

[Anonymous No.15464023]

>>15464012
it's my fantasy I make the rules

[Anonymous No.15464431]

>>15463979
Musc Ravageur, for nights out
Dior Homme Cologne, for hot days
Mefisto Gentliuomo, to work
Virgin Island Water, to relax
Layton, to fuck

[Anonymous No.15464484]

>>15464431
imagine paying $900 for Layton when you can get Eros for literal pennies

[Anonymous No.15464486]

is rive gauche ph dated-smelling? or based and timeless like jules

[Anonymous No.15464508]

>>15464486
it's based and dated like no. 5

[Anonymous No.15464550]

>>15464508
This. No 5 on old ladies is unattactive but if a young guy wears it it's big dick energy.

[Anonymous No.15464555]

>>15464508
the only based and dated fragrance i have is a about 10ml of kouros from a 1984 charles of the ritz bottle. nuclear bomb of soapy powdery cleaning product smell. you have to be in a sweaty nightclub on a summer night for it to work basically

[Anonymous No.15464557]

>>15464484
Shouldn't you be worried with your bills, poorfag?

[Anonymous No.15464559]

>>15464550
>big dick energy
Go away TPN faggot.

[Anonymous No.15464570]

>>15463361
Hugo by Hugo Boss

[Anonymous No.15464625]

>>15464570
10/10 fragrance

[Anonymous No.15464701]

>>15463702
unironically bath and body works, flannel or fiji white sands for good unisex scents

[Anonymous No.15464707]

>>15463702
CDNIM

[Anonymous No.15464718]

>>15463979
CAHSEE
Spicebomb Extreme
Aqva Amara
Aventus
Layton

[Anonymous No.15464722]

>>15464570
>>15464625
Hugo is based and everyone itt is a faggot

[Anonymous No.15465020]

>>15463664
I’m not sure how they could make Azzaro Pour Homme more minty than it already is but it could be good

[Anonymous No.15465041]

I just sprayed on Antaeus for the first time from a sample I bought. I loved it as soon as I smelled it. But now, 5 minutes later, it's different. I don't think it's nose blindness. I think that it was just the jarring effect of smelling something that you love instantly but then realizing what other people mean when they say that it has been destroyed. It's sort of like the "DNA" (I don't like that word) is great, but the ratios and quality aren't there anymore. However, I do feel like I remember reading big-time Antaeus fans saying that recently the perfume has been reformulated and is now sort of close to its former quality. No idea how old the bottle I got my sample from is though.

[Anonymous No.15465066]

>>15463979
Azzaro Pour Home, Ch Men Prive, Dylan Blue, Light Blue Intense, The Dreamer
I haven't tried anything super expensive.

[Anonymous No.15465069]

>>15464718
is that you in the pic?

[Anonymous No.15465080]

Anons, chill. Everybody's so up in arms and at each other's throats. Chill, boys. It's all good.

[Anonymous No.15465110]

>>15465080
FUCK YOU! I’LL FUCKING KILL YOU, YOU BITCH FAGGOT ASS SHIT!

[Anonymous No.15465156]

>>15462482
VIW has piss poor performance for the price. You can get a full bottle of a better performing designer fragrance that matches the vibe you're looking for for the cost of a decent size decant. Just go with any Tommy Bahama fragrance

[Anonymous No.15465196]

>>15464486
>>15464508
> Rive Gauche PH is dated
It is not. If it was, Tom Ford wouldn’t clone it in 2018 creating Fougere d’Argent.

[Anonymous No.15465339]

>>15464431
Pleas expand on your love of Musc Ravageur, I love it but not enough to justify a bottle.

[Anonymous No.15465496]

>>15463702
That's fucking retarded. Candles like that are for special occasions, like a date or Christmas.
If you want a practical way to change the smell of a room, buy something like an aroma diffuser (pic related just as an example), they literally last more than 6 months and it's easy to control the intensity of the fragrance by adding or removing sticks.

[Anonymous No.15465501]

>>15465496
They don’t last that long, about 10 days tops, but I agree that they are a good way to perfume your room. They are quite cheap and effective. There are some brands like Pierre Guillame and Occitane(iirc) that make fragrances specifically for this purpose, so they might also be worth looking into.

[Anonymous No.15465509]

>>15465501
The last one I bought (from my local supermarket, $10 for a 2-pack) has been working in my bathroom at least since November 2019.

[Anonymous No.15465511]

>>15465501
Didnt find any on their sites but they sell $70 candles. Do you faggots enjoy burning money?

[Anonymous No.15465521]

>he didn't spend all his rent money on bottles

ngmi

[Anonymous No.15465522]

>>15463979
Based

[Anonymous No.15465533]

>>15465511
Yes.

[Anonymous No.15465536]

>>15465533
send some to my paypal then i need new cologne

[Anonymous No.15465537]

>>15465536
Sure, what's your address?

[Anonymous No.15465645]

>>15465511
>Do you faggots enjoy burning money?

wheredoyouthinkweare.jpg

[Anonymous No.15465755]

Luca Turin has made a YouTube channel with video lessons about the secret of scent

https://m.youtube.com/user/lucaturin/videos

[Anonymous No.15465766]

>>15465755
5 hours of /ourguy/ the dream

[Anonymous No.15465813]

>>15465755
I would rather watch him talk about profvmvm roma's typography

[Anonymous No.15465815]

Chanel Allure Édition Blanche is my favorite

[Anonymous No.15465824]

>>15465813
Whatd he say, they were grandma scents?

[Anonymous No.15465958]

>>15465755
fucking noseblind hack

[Anonymous No.15465965]

>>15465958
Delete this. LT

[Anonymous No.15466039]

fuck I miss the old la nuit guys

[Anonymous No.15466129]

>>15465511
If you ain’t spending your money you ain’t enjoying it, fren.

[Anonymous No.15466227]

>>15465511
How can you not see the huge “home scents” section of the pg site? €75 for 500ml of room spray. Somewhat expensive, but definitely much cheaper than candles.

[Anonymous No.15466263]

LT has this weird mid atlantic accent. mostly american sounding. his upbringing/background makes sense. sort of like gabriele marcotti

[Anonymous No.15466293]

>jeremy mentions CDG2 on a recent list

you can see the passion and fire and excitement in his eyes for a second then as soon as he goes to the next fragrance he's like "next up dolce & gabbana light blue" and it just dies

we need to save him bros

[Anonymous No.15466298]

>>15466293
He can’t experiment. Just look at his niche videos, all the comments are pajeets saying “rispekt from india” or complaining that niche frags are too expensive, hard to find and challenging for them.

[Anonymous No.15466313]

>>15466293
He recommended floriental in a vid one time too. Cdg is based I own like 6 of them and want a few more

[Anonymous No.15466315]

>>15466298
he already had serious knowledge and a serious collection behind the whole act at the beginning, but after working with firmenich and morillas and going through the process of creating his own, it's probably above any other youtuber. it's just a shame it's still being wasted on top 5 sexy girl fragrances vs some reviews of interesting shit.

even for those 10 seconds he talks about CDG2 his enthusiasm and reaction is more genuine and insightful than any other faggot niche reviewer on youtube that can't talk into a camera

[Anonymous No.15466323]

>>15466293
>>15466315
https://youtu.be/MZPl3sMfSqg?t=55

the part in the video where he talks about it

[Anonymous No.15466327]

>>15466293
this was the grave he chose

[Anonymous No.15466330]

I ordered Versace Dylan Blue the other day. It's my first fragrance I've bought. Is it good?

[Anonymous No.15466331]

>>15466315
I like to watch this video every now and then to remind myself how good he could be. It’s mostly designer stuff, but the enthusiasm is so genuine.

https://youtu.be/BSbgZ6v-NXs

Plus we have to remember one of his favourites (perhaps his favourite) is Tobacco Oud, which is such an unusual choice for somebody like him given the nature of his channel and it being geared more towards designer.

[Anonymous No.15466333]

>>15466327
he can switch it up whenever he decides to, he's probably just scared. his fragrance has paid for itself tenfold by now with all the pajeets buying it. he's only like 30 and he can always start making different types of videos if he sacks up

[Anonymous No.15466342]

>>15466333
His dad was rich anyway though. He could be doing whatever he wants regardless, he should have a wife and kid by now

[Anonymous No.15466344]

>>15466333
example: he had that video in that perfume shop in LA where he sperged out over the 25 year old vintage le male bottle, and now he brings it up in any video he gets the chance. he's really into vintage designer bottles like any other /frag/ autist or youtuber, he just leaves it out of his normie vids

[Anonymous No.15466363]

>>15466344
A bit of a shame really, he could have done an offshoot channel where he gets the autists like us interested in such things but he only cares about views, ad revenue, fame etc...

[Anonymous No.15466395]

>>15466363
Not profitable

[Anonymous No.15466399]

Yatagan is very wearable and likable for normie men, not difficult to wear at all. What's this running meme about it smelling like celery and ass. TPN is truly cancerous gay LARPing

[Anonymous No.15466453]

Finally tried Kouros today and I totally get the urinal cake comparisons. Definitely interesting smelling, got a compliment from a milf at the mall too.

[Anonymous No.15466470]

https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/perfume-articles-of-interest-9/

Anyone listen to this podcast?

[Anonymous No.15466547]

>>15466399
That sounds nice, how would you describe it?

[Anonymous No.15466554]

>>15466547
Like incense and greens/herbs, that's literally it. Pretty straightforward and masculine and "old guy cologne"-y

[Anonymous No.15466571]

>>15466554
No leather or anything animalistic? That's a shame.

[Anonymous No.15466575]

Best slumberhouse?

[Anonymous No.15466614]

>>15466571
people always overstate the animalistic-ness of fragrances for memes. it's a constant in the fag community, they literally want to smell like piss and shit to be irreverent or counterculture or something. barely a leather note in yatagan (the one i have is vintage previous bottle type too)

[Anonymous No.15466626]

>>15466614
this. people kept going on about leather oud being fecal and shitty and when i finally tried it, it was not that bad. it's quite good; a bit challenging but after maybe 30 seconds of a bit of stank it's a nice buttery leather and smoke. really really nice, but not as animalistic as people claim it is.

[Anonymous No.15466631]

>>15466626
neither is vintage antaeus, it just smells like a classy likable french man fragrance not a giant poop bomb like faggots would lead you to believe

[Anonymous No.15466639]

>>15466575
Norne

[Anonymous No.15466641]

>>15466614
Oh I see, I was looking at the frag notes and they list pine, beaver, artemesia, and oak moss and the dominant players. I wish it smelled like that, sounds nice.
>>15466631
I don't think there is any vintage antaeus left

[Anonymous No.15466644]

>>15466641
there are literally multiple full size and mini vintages on ebay at this moment

[Anonymous No.15466653]

>>15466330
You bought it without knowing if it's good or not? What are you, a retard?
>>15466129
I spend money to make money, dumb fuck.

[Anonymous No.15466659]

>>15466644
The minis are notoriously the most faked, I'm not talking about aftershave, or anything from the 3rd world or Russia either. 80s antaeus is a white whale, anything past the early 90s is different.

[Anonymous No.15466668]

>>15466659
there is no "notoriousness" to minis being faked lol, you literally made that up in your OCD basenotes schizo mind. it sucks you can't find a good reputable legit seller or something but the rest of us can bud

even in your imaginary situation, nobody in the "fragrance community" now aside from absolute boomers in their 60s would have smelled an antaeus from 30+ years ago and remembered it enough to describe it as ultra animalic. everyone has mid 90s-later bottles and they still describe it that way, meaning they're making up the animalic part

[Anonymous No.15466690]

>>15466668
What's your bottle like? Sounds like you bought a faux perhaps.

[Anonymous No.15466715]

>>15466690
no greendot, no barcode, 9034. 1982 bottle. got it in 2014

checked with RoTLS, every basenotes autist you can imagine, and even other vintage sellers before i got it. there are other vintages available but you won't find many early 80s bottles out there

[Anonymous No.15466722]

>>15466715

Seeing is believing
:^)

[Anonymous No.15466733]

>>15466659
>"Trust me 80s antaeus is super animalic, but also trust me that you or nobody you know has smelled it, but I have, just trust me."

okay sebastian from smelling great fragrance reviews

[Anonymous No.15466738]

>>15466733
Ok fren, you keep fighting those strawmen, I'm just curious about your thoughts on the matter.

[Anonymous No.15466742]

>>15466738
>"80s antaeus is a white whale"
>"it's not really a white whale"
>heh, keep fighting those strawmen, nothing personnel kid..

[Anonymous No.15466763]

>>15466742
Surely there's a bottle you know of for sale then if it's so common? Did you pay much for yours? I'm still trying to figure out why you're so livid, did you buy an overpriced meme or a faux? Did you buy that one that was on Etsy I posted a month or so ago? The opened one? It was gone the next day.

[Anonymous No.15466776]

>>15466763
Livid I bought a non-poopy fragrance? yeah i'm incensed it doesn't smell like shit dude. Lmao. Anataeus smells great, i bought a vintage vs a 2014/new bottle cause i wanted the strongest one possible, not cause it allegedly would smell more shitty

[Anonymous No.15466787]

>>15466763
and no, i told you earlier i bought it in 2014 off ebay from nostalzaroma. super legit seller from WV, if you were a vintage autist you would know about him

[Anonymous No.15466810]

>>15466776
There's only one poopy poster here, Im familiar with his shoppe, I wonder if you posts here?

[Anonymous No.15466813]

>>15466810
eugen has been damaging to the /frag/ discourse overall. he does that homosexual "wow this smells like smeared human poop, love it" thing

[Anonymous No.15466818]

Anyone here know anything about Trésor Rare perfumes? For some reason I can't find info anywhere apart from promotional stuff and the brand isn't even listed on Fragrantica.
My mom has one of these (though I'm not sure which). All I know is that I hate the fragrance and apparently it's stupidly expensive.

[Anonymous No.15466828]

>>15466813
Daily dream daddy update?
I love how you keep us updated on your extreme dislikes.

[Anonymous No.15466836]

>>15466818
Oh and now I found this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FndC2AswbtI

[Anonymous No.15466851]

>>15466818
Seems like crap but the recs you’ll get here will be even worse

[Anonymous No.15466862]

>>15466851
I'll confront my mom on this bullshit. I just hope she didn't pay more than $500 for this retarded "perfume". According to the video in >>15466836
people get scammed $1000s for this shit.
Also they're Israeli, LMAO.

[Anonymous No.15466868]

>completely mogs CdG

[Anonymous No.15466878]

>>15466868
>getting played by scentinel viral marketing

that's a yikes and an oof from me, bro

[Anonymous No.15466904]

>>15466878
t. bought six CdG bottles, full retail

[Anonymous No.15466917]

guys, the material cost for something like Blue de Chanel is probably like $10-15, including the bottle. Realistically, since we're given the whole formula for most fragrances, why would anyone not mix their own colognes? Even if it's 70% as good as a $300 fragrance, for example, the difference in price for the quality would be $195.
Even if you tell a lady, "yeah this is like Eau Sauvage but only 80% as good," she's gonna be more impressed that you made it yourself than if you were wearing something expensive.

[Anonymous No.15466918]

>>15466917
same as with wine

[Anonymous No.15466926]

>>15466918
Also this. I ferment my own wine and beer. But to drive the point home further, fermentation is a hell of a lot more involved than mixing a fragrance. That's even assuming you're going to distill your own essential oils.

[Anonymous No.15466933]

>>15466926
I grew my own weed once, it was the best weed in the county. You might be on to something here.

[Anonymous No.15466944]

>>15463979
Dior Homme Sport 2012
Creed Aventus
Dior Fahrenheit
Tea for Two
Tom Ford Tuscan Leather

[Anonymous No.15466964]

>>15466917
I mean, that's assuming you're still stuck in the baby's first designer stages of fragrance exploration. Once you're into the higher end artisanal range you're definitely getting more of what you pay for. There isn't really any cheap or timely way of getting the highest grade iris/orris butter, wild Cambodian agarwood oil, or Thai blue lotus essential oil, and that doesn't even factor in the blending expertise needed to make something wearable without wasting the raw materials. But most people aren't in that deep so I guess your point still stands.

[Anonymous No.15466980]

>>15466964
I'm an ES major so I'm a decent botanist. I guess that puts me at an advantage in the world of niche ingredients. I also have a wide variety of flora in my area for cultivation so I'm surrounded by niche ingredients.

[Anonymous No.15467146]

>>15466980
The ingredients isn't the hard part, knowing what goes together and learning chemicals, chemistry, and having a lot of patience is

[Anonymous No.15467159]

>>15466904
Yes.

[Anonymous No.15467233]

>>15466813
in his latest video he said dior's oud rosewood smelled like the inside of an asscheek. i have a 40ml bottle and there is little to nothing animalic about it. it smells like a toned-down leather oud with more sandlewood. either his nose is fucked or he lies just to be that "animalic guy." either way it's fucking annoying hearing him going on and on about things smelling like shit and piss and ass when he knows damn well they don't. i mean what does he have to gain from saying that?

[Anonymous No.15467234]

What're some good casual cheapies for fall?

[Anonymous No.15467258]

>>15467234
Moods for Men,The Dreamer

[Anonymous No.15467280]

>>15467233
Probably grants some street cred in the prolapse community

[Anonymous No.15467289]

>>15467233
he regularly uses gay cultural slang and stuff, he's clearly into the scene and he's downlow. people meme that his wife kicked him out cause of him spending tens of thousands on fragrances, which is prob true, but you an almost guarantee he's at least gay and she wasn't down with that. look at how giddy he acts with that homosexual fat asian dior rep

[Anonymous No.15467299]

>>15467289
He was basically flirting with him. There was a few moments where their eyes connected and they stared a bit. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he was a butt pirate.

[Anonymous No.15467306]

>>15467233
He said that type of thing about oud ispahan too. I smelled it and it's just kind of a pleasant oud rose saffron smell, not even ultra strong or anything and most people could pull it off in a formal setting. People are a combination of delusional and LARPers. For all the flak he gets, jeremy does the least embellishment when he talks about the things that eugene talks about (i know jeremy embellishes tacky shitty designers but he describes malles and guerlains better and more honestly than eugen does)

[Anonymous No.15467321]

>>15467234

[Anonymous No.15467582]

>>15465069
no

[Anonymous No.15467594]

>>15467582
doubt

[Anonymous No.15467615]

Do you already have your fall scents or are you going to order/buy them in the following weeks?

[Anonymous No.15467621]

>>15467615
I already bought a bunch from corona boredom. Fuck warm weather perfume. Name one that is good. I don't want to smell fresh and clean and citrusy. The only ones I've found so far that I really liked is Green Irish Tweed and Bortnikoff Musk Cologne. Eau de Magnolia is alright, Aventus is alright, most of them are just alright.

[Anonymous No.15467630]

Earlier in the thread somebody said that 80's Antaeus is very difficult to find, so I started looking and I think he might be right. Why is that? Vintage Kouros is readily available.

[Anonymous No.15467635]

>>15467615
I wear Man Eau Fraiche in the fall and winter.

[Anonymous No.15467646]

>>15467635
hmm can't tell if troll or serious......

[Anonymous No.15467662]

>>15463925
You just proved my point. When its disgusting in a niche bottle people pay big. Ex zoologist.

[Anonymous No.15467687]

>>15466944
> Dior Homme Sport 2012
Have you tried DHS 2008? Do you see some resemblance between DHS 2012 and Guerlain L’homme Ideal Cologne?

[Anonymous No.15467978]

What you smell like today frens? Boss Bottled (drugstore clone) for me.

[Anonymous No.15467982]

>>15467978
Good ol' Hugo for me.

[Anonymous No.15467988]

>>15467978
Coccobello by Heeley. Absolutely gorgeous coconut.

[Anonymous No.15468352]

>>15463472
This reformulations equals bad meme is so stupid.

[Anonymous No.15468377]

Commes de Garcons more like Commes de Gar-gone in 30 minutes

Still love the brand though

[Anonymous No.15468394]

So how is Jeremy's frag anyway? I left the general right around when that was dropping.

[Anonymous No.15468542]

>>15468352
Definitely, but since I like the current one and I don't know if I will like the new one it's better safe than sorry isn't it?

[Anonymous No.15468562]

Is Guerlain Vetiver suitable for high heat?
I've never smelled it and consider to blind buy it.

[Anonymous No.15468564]

>it's another Robert Quinlan post on youtube
Something is wrong with this guy.

[Anonymous No.15468569]

>>15466917
They get cost of $10-15 a bottle because they get their materials wholesale, also some of the materials could be not available in retail, so you would be having to buy them by kilograms, when a single bottle could take a few drops of it or something, so you would end up with 300 half assed bleu de chanels for like $50 each. Maybe it's cheaper, if you wanted to smell like bdc for the rest of your lifetime times ten, but i think it would be more effective for you if you just bought a cheap clone, as you arent going to get better quality by mixing it yourself either

[Anonymous No.15468576]

>>15462298
>hires black people to shoplift fragrances from pharmacies
heh, nothin personal kid

[Anonymous No.15468638]

Tried on my carded vial of Sauvage Parfum I picked up last time I was in town before rona shut things down.
It's just orange cough syrup, how can anyone like this shit?

[Anonymous No.15468691]

>>15468562
no it smells like you wiped your ass with some grass. not a very shitty wipe though, more like one of the last wipes before youre clean

[Anonymous No.15468695]

>>15468394
smells like sour cum tissues

[Anonymous No.15468701]

>>15468695
Right up your alley then

[Anonymous No.15468703]

>>15463361
Narciso Rodríguez for Him

[Anonymous No.15468734]

>>15429401
>>15461657
Reveal yourselves

[Anonymous No.15468764]

>>15467978
Dior Homme 2020 today. Can’t get why every reviewer said there is no logic issuing it under the Homme name. Anyone with a nose would see connections between DHS 2012, DH Eau, DHS 2017 and DH 2020. For Demachy it is just another flanker/the next iteration within the same theme. Or maybe I am crazy, what do I know.

[Anonymous No.15468811]

everybody talks about the best smelling fragrances but what about the best tasting fragrances?

[Anonymous No.15468822]

eugen is the definition of downlow. he is 100% gonna fuck/try to fuck kristo and/or the asian fat faggot dior sales rep

[Anonymous No.15468898]

>>15468822
Can you stop with the fucking, why do you care, what are you, fragrance reviewer fucking police? Eugene is mad though, he already bought half of LV including Ombre Nomad.

[Anonymous No.15468928]

fragrantica says AHSEE reformulated and watered down to shit

true or false?

[Anonymous No.15468950]

>>15467687
I have not tried DHS 2008.
I own L’homme Ideal Cologne and now that you bring it up I do see a similarity I never really picked up on before.

[Anonymous No.15468956]

>>15468811
Eros is fucking delicious, but only if you chug the whole bottle at once.

[Anonymous No.15468957]

>>15468928
Click on literally any random fragrance on fragrantica, and there’s at least a 50% chance some mong is claiming it was reformulated in their review.

[Anonymous No.15468962]

i want to FUCK katie puckrick

[Anonymous No.15468989]

>>15468962
I still don’t KNOW who that is.

[Anonymous No.15469005]

>>15468957
how do I figure out if it's true or not? sometimes it's real and a fragrance gets dumpstered

[Anonymous No.15469021]

>>15468962

[Anonymous No.15469039]

>>15468950
> DHS 2012 and Guerlain L’Homme Cologne
Do they share notes? Yeah no.
Do they smell similar? No yeah.

[Anonymous No.15469162]

five identical bottles of sauvage

[Anonymous No.15469165]

does amouage stuff actually smell quality or is it just a bunch of ISO e super

[Anonymous No.15469183]

>>15468962
The hottest video
https://youtu.be/ghlV3eLnqb8

[Anonymous No.15469306]

>>15469183
imagine her sitting with you for a convo and being that handsy with you. imagine bros

[Anonymous No.15469326]

>>15469165
Yes.

[Anonymous No.15469331]

https://kafkaesqueblog.com/2017/08/23/reformulation-woes-mdcis-chypre-palatin/

Based. I really like Chypre Palatin from a Luckyscent sample I have, which I'm sure is the recent formula, but I don't know if I can buy this perfume if the owner is a lying money-grubber.

I feel like a lot of people who complain about people who talk about reformulations are trying to convince themselves that a perfume they bought isn't inferior to how it once was.

[Anonymous No.15469337]

is beau de jour really an exact clone of rive gauche

[Anonymous No.15469338]

>>15469165
It definitely smells higher quality and more unique than almost all designer perfumes. How much so depends on the one you're talking about. For me, it's Bracken Man and Jubilation Man. I've heard that most of their women's perfumes are totally unisex, can anyone comment on that?

[Anonymous No.15469393]

>>15468898
>mad
you mean stupid and weak-willed? yeah i agree with you.

[Anonymous No.15469397]

>>15469331
I mean, there isn’t really any actual evidence there. It’s pretty much just “the juice is a different color and my mum and I thought it smelled different”. Not necessarily saying he’s wrong, though I have a recent bottle from luckyscent that’s dark orange and smells just like older bottles I’ve had, he just doesn’t really prove his argument very well.

[Anonymous No.15469409]

>>15469331
yeah the MDCI syndicate is definitely in denial on that one

[Anonymous No.15469422]

there are a million gucci alchemist's garden fragrances, are they all overpriced memeshit or is there anything good?

[Anonymous No.15469466]

>>15467978
Sohan

[Anonymous No.15469475]

>>15469338
Their women’s are boring imho. Interlude Man is my absolute favorite tho as it’s super rich, unique and deep.

[Anonymous No.15469500]

>>15469397
I think kafkaesque is a woman but anyway I trust them on being able to tell if a perfume is different from how it once was since she has smelled thousands of perfumes.

[Anonymous No.15469501]

>>15469393
What's his job, actually? I know he works in the vehicle industry, and I know there's the video of him taking a torch to CDNIM, but how does he afford Toronto rent and all of this perfume while having kids to take care of?

[Anonymous No.15469527]

>>15469501
He’s a machinist. He machines parts out of metal for things

[Anonymous No.15469532]

>>15469501
He’s old enough to have afforded a house before the market went to complete shit. As to how he affords all these frags + supporting his kids, well, he doesn’t. Guaranteed he has a ton of debt. Probably why his wife gave him the boot.

[Anonymous No.15469533]

>>15468764
I don't get all the hate for DH2020.
I think it's a solid all season, all occasion fragrance.

[Anonymous No.15469586]

>>15469532
>makes a video talking about how he's sick of rose/oud combos
>has about 10,000 dollars worth of rose/oud combos
>buying thousands of dollars worth of things you don't really like

this is textbook addiction lmao

[Anonymous No.15469599]

this thread turned pretty gay, botfags need to up their game

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.15469601]

Please create a cologne that smells like ass cheese. It is an acquired taste but fuck does it ever smell good once you have acquired the taste for it.

[Anonymous No.15469605]

>>15467630

[Anonymous No.15469608]

>>15469601
how many perfumes do you have?

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.15469612]

>>15469608
Aventus
and Dior Homme Intense for winter

[Anonymous No.15469626]

>>15467978
sartorial by penhaligon

[Anonymous No.15469637]

Recommend me a fragrance.

So far I'm going with ENCRE NOIRE (SPORT in summer). Could I do better?

[Anonymous No.15469640]

Which smell would attract grils like this?

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.15469644]

>>15469640
I just hope she washes her ass instead of the disgusting use of toilet paper

[Anonymous No.15469652]

>>15469644
She washes her ass with my tongue.

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.15469657]

she pees in my mouth

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.15469663]

She can't wait to sit with her butt hole on my dick. She craves dick in her butt.

[Anonymous No.15469672]

>>15469612
Igor’s 2 scent rotation = Based

[Anonymous No.15469677]

She is hungry to swallow my dick with her asshole

[Anonymous No.15469678]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-EbC1EjXkE

>"These asshole and bitches and whores. Not all women are angel."

uhh. can i get a based check?

[Anonymous No.15469681]

>>15469678
Jeremy is unironically the best fragrance youtuber and if you disagree, congrats, you’re a faggot.

[Anonymous No.15469685]

>>15469681
i made my post a couple minutes into watching that video, it gets even more based as it goes on lel

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.15469687]

>>15469678
I do really feel his latest videos, really liking the guy.

[Anonymous No.15469694]

>>15469681
>>15469687
Not in every single way exactly the same, but he reminds me of a millennial german version of vincent gallo. he is so off the cuff and rubs people the wrong way. they are both painfully genuine to the point where it comes off as an act

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.15469697]

>>15469694
Vincent Gallo is slimy and subhuman.
Jeremy is athletic and tall and psychopathic.

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.15469699]

>>15469694
>vincent gallo
He comes across like a damaged schizo.
Jeremy comes across like an unbermensch

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.15469700]

>>15469694
>vincent gallo
Gallo comes across like a damaged schizo.
Jeremy comes across like an ubermensch experiencing depression.

[Anonymous No.15469703]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umnbOHroNpo

literally pulls out a guitar and sings johnny cash at the end of this one

[Anonymous No.15469731]

>>15469337
> Yeah no. TF Fougere d’Argent is a clone of Rive Gauche PH while Beau de Jour is a clone of Zino Davidoff.

[Anonymous No.15469737]

I don't really like some of Jeremy's act, and he's sorta Eurotrash, but I really do think that he's a good person.

[Anonymous No.15469752]

>>15469637
> Heinrich Himmler cosplay
ELDO Rien will fit.

[Anonymous No.15469755]

>>15469737
i think he's neither good nor bad, just a complicated person like most people. the act is pretty cynical and transparent and just for the views, which has clearly worked since he's the only fragrance guy on youtube with >1 million subs (second place is literally like barely 100k), but i like when his videos now just devolve into utter soul outpouring and shit

[Anonymous No.15469767]

Ok Chypre battle I've got 4 different samples on right now.

Mousse Illuminee - Too sweet for what it is
Chypre Palatin - Considering a bottle, but also a little sweet for me (for this style of perfume)
Diaghilev - Amazing, but way too expensive and it really can't be worn in a casual setting
Chypre Siam - Delicious, inexpensive, easy to wear, unbelievable nuclear performance from the cancerous outlawed synthetic musks, just solid all the way around

Chypre Siam is the winner.

[Anonymous No.15469780]

For me, it's Original Santal by Creed.

[Anonymous No.15469823]

>>15469780
For me, it's a perfume called Original Santal that probably contains no sandalwood.

[Anonymous No.15469848]

I curated your fragrance collection.

[Anonymous No.15469885]

>>15469848
Damn this guy's got good taste

[Anonymous No.15469988]

>>15469780
Original Santal (Creed) sweet oriental
A vile, cheap, cloying masculine that would be disheartening as the smell of the hotel shampoo in Ulan-Ude. LT

[Anonymous No.15470052]

>>15462298
what's the best frag to wear if you haven't showered in a few days?

[Anonymous No.15470089]

>>15470052
Joop

[Anonymous No.15470091]

>>15470052
Eau

[Anonymous No.15470114]

>>15462298
Men should not wear fragrance. https://mating101.com/never-let-a-pretty-face-intimidate-you/

[Anonymous No.15470126]

>>15470114
Cool! Thanks bro! I’ll definitely take that under advisement!

[Anonymous No.15470129]

>>15470114
Nah, when I spray myself with cologne, I get a boost of sexy, confidence, my character changes a little bit.

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.15470132]

It's like putting on your current favorite album.

[Anonymous No.15470186]

Fourth alphabetically in the Zoologist line, and thus my fourth review, is Camel.
Camel is a warm and inviting entry with gentle spices and resins to greet you. Dates and figs mixed with other dried fruits sneak in there, but I didn't find it prominent. Truthfully I didn't feel much was prominent. It's a balanced, but perhaps uninspiring scent. I don't claim to have a wide knowledge of accords and notes, but I couldn't detect much if what is listed on the Fragrantica wiki. Myrhh, frankincense, civet. All of these were lost on me. I will need to revisit this later when I have a better understanding of incence and the like.
Unfortunately, to top it all off, I found the performance poor and its duration short. There was something there, but it was so faint. It just smelled like me. If you were to describe the notes to me, I would have told you before trying it I would love it. I'm very disappointed that I do not. If the four I've sampled alphabetically from the line, this is easily my least favorite.
As a while though, I have been enjoying the hell out of wearing these and authoring little write ups.
I've been trying to force myself to write my thoughts before trying a new one. I wasn't exactly inspired to write this and wanted more time to reflect and maybe sense something I didn't the first five times, but even more so I wanted to continue on the series.

[Anonymous No.15470246]

>>15470186
Camel isn’t my favorite Zootopian either. I feel that Serge Lutens Arabie does what camel was trying to do much better. Much richer, spicier, and stickier. Really does smell like spiced dates and dried fruit. Camel is just too restrained. If you’re gonna do a middle eastern spice market sort of scent, you gotta go really big with it.

[Anonymous No.15470248]

NEW THREAD
>>15470245
>>15470245
>>15470245
>>15470245

[Anonymous No.15470251]

>>15470246
Well said. It's too bad. I really wanted it to be a favorite.