/wt/ watch thread

[Anonymous No.15177266]

This thread is about the appreciation of watches and their design, their history, and the engineering and materials that are required to make a functioning timepiece.

Guides:
> Poorfag guide: https://m.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

Should I buy this MVMT / DW / "minimalist" fashion watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

Should I buy this Armani / Michael Kors / mall watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/Sw1FsAn

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
> Desired features, e.g. automatic, water resistance, day/date
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
> Wrist size or desired watch size

前:>>15174096

[Anonymous No.15177273]

What is the best tool watch and why? (for the sake of discussion we'll say that Rolex is excluded otherwise everyone will just say Sub) Discuss!

[Anonymous No.15177278]

>>15177273
The best tool watch from a utilitarian perspective is probably one of the quartz sinn drivers or a quartz tuna.

[Anonymous No.15177280]

>>15177273
well divers and chronographs are both tool watches with totally different purposes so you have to get more specific than that. then there are GMTs.

[Anonymous No.15177287]

>>15177273
The frogman, it's durable, affordable, practically has full dive computer functionality, looks great and doesn't take itself too seriously.

[Anonymous No.15177300]

>>15177278
Here is the sinn EZM 2B. It's got a temperature compensated quartz movement. The thing can withstand depths way beyond anything you could actually survive diving at (at least 500 bar yes 500) it has an oil filled case so there is zero light refraction or any reflection under water and the dial remains perfectly readable at basically any angle plus it has all the other things that come along with autistic German over engineering.
It is a purpose made tool for telling time when diving.

[Anonymous No.15177307]

>>15177287
Rangeman > Frogman

[Anonymous No.15177322]

>>15177273
For scratches, Damasko.
Overall, some Sinn quartz or a casio with nice sensors.


I have no idea how a rolex could be the best tool watch unless you're basically saying tool watches are pointless so you should brand whore instead.

[Anonymous No.15177336]

>>15177322
muh prestige
how else will I impress my stupid friends?

[Anonymous No.15177343]

>>15177273
A 10 dollar casio, because a tool watch should go through hell if you have anything approaching a manly hobby.

You want a watch you can keep on when you're cleaning out a garbage disposal, and then drop into a bath of spirits to get the bigger chunks of gunk off. You don't want some overpriced turd that you'll start crying over if it gets one little scratch.

[Anonymous No.15177348]

>>15177343
Why not just pay slightly more and get a better Casio?

[Anonymous No.15177383]

>>15177307
The rangeman, especially the new one, is absolutely better for going innawoods and other things on dry land. But the frogman is the only actually ISO certified diver from the g-shock line and has tons of dive specific features like a depth sensor and ascent warning that yells at you if you are coming up too quickly.

[Anonymous No.15177384]

>>15177343
Obviously what people mean when they say "tool watch" nowadays they mean "at least entry level/basic luxury tool watch", I'm surprised /wt/ doesn't know the terminology, otherwise everyone knows it's muh G-Shock.

[Anonymous No.15177403]

>>15177273
>>15177384
Well if we are naming luxury tool watches than the Grand Seiko SLGA001 has 800m water resistance and a 120 hour power reserve. I also has a great looking case with a real angular tool watch aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.15177407]

>wearing anything other than a f-91w
pure, unadulterated cope

[Anonymous No.15177408]

>>15177403
Just look at those lugs. It screams tool watch without just being a brick of metal.

[Anonymous No.15177419]

>>15177383
More people spend more time on land than 300m underwater.

[Anonymous No.15177426]

>GShock i had in my Amazon cart has price increased $15 in two days
are they becoming trendy now?

[Anonymous No.15177432]

>>15177426
/wt/ has for all intensive purposes become /gshock/, so probably

[Anonymous No.15177439]

>>15177426
Prices on stuff like that vary widely on Amazon everything is priced with algorithms and machine learning now. There is some website that tracks the prices of listings on Amazon over time, I forget what it's called but you can look it up on there and see what the prices have been like in the past year and figure out if it's likely to drop again or not. It could also be discontinued that usually causes prices to rise

[Anonymous No.15177440]

Can I ask if anyone here likes orient/orient star watches?

They seem to be owned by Epson?

[Anonymous No.15177444]

>>15177432
>for all intensive purposes
Lol, it's intents and purposes not intensive

[Anonymous No.15177447]

>>15177440
They are slowly becoming the new budget kings after Seiko

[Anonymous No.15177451]

>>15177440
Yeah orient makes some good stuff. They are owned by seiko epson, but they operate mostly independently of seiko. Some people hate the logo but most of their watches are a good value.

[Anonymous No.15177453]

>>15177451
what's wrong with their logo?

[Anonymous No.15177457]

>>15177451
nothing is uglier than the casio edifice logo

[Anonymous No.15177458]

>>15177453
it's uuuuugleh!

>>15177447
Its a shame, they don't seem to have many attractive designs.

[Anonymous No.15177469]

>>15177458
I think the Orient logo is cool. The Rolex logo is more cringe just being a big crown

[Anonymous No.15177470]

>>15177440
sister brand of seiko proper, and they have their own movements

new bambino now has a 22mm lug width instead of the 21mm on v1-v3, those were a big complain

watches are fine and value for money but the rotor is loud

[Anonymous No.15177516]

My dog just got a new watch.

[Anonymous No.15177529]

What do you guys think aboht my new TOOL watch? It sure does FEEL good on the wrist. It is like Rolex quality but HALF price.

[Anonymous No.15177535]

>>15177529
>>15177516
no one cares about your tudor post more dog

[Anonymous No.15177540]

I'm kind of baffled by Orient. I really like most of their dive line and they have some other gems here and there but they also make an absolute load of horrible mall shitter tier looking watches. Do open heat watches sell well in Asia? Orient seems to be obsessed with them. How about an open hear diver?

[Anonymous No.15177543]

>>15177540
I don't know what's going on with this thing, it's very confused.

[Anonymous No.15177546]

>>15177535

[Anonymous No.15177552]

>>15177543
This thing too. These guys really need to bring someone in to refine their designs and come up with a more unified design language. You get the impression that they got the ability to do dlc coatings and they just started coloring bits of watches at random.

[Anonymous No.15177554]

>>15177529
Assuming that's a real BB58 it's pretty nice. Unlike the chonky maxicases you'll find on a rolex the lugs on it are actually well proportioned & there's that angled brushing on the top of the lugs like rolex used to do.

[Anonymous No.15177557]

>>15177540
Garish mall shitters sell unfortunately, otherwise no one would bother making them.

[Anonymous No.15177559]

>>15177540
>Do open heat watches sell well in Asia?

it seems so
seagull does a ton of open heart/ "flying wheel" as well, there has to be a market for it

[Anonymous No.15177573]

Yes, I buy homage watches, how can you tell?

[Anonymous No.15177576]

>>15177529
BB58 is great. I love mine.

[Anonymous No.15177593]

>>15177516
Mine too

[Anonymous No.15177607]

>>15177540
JAPS GONNA JAP

[Anonymous No.15177613]

>>15177546
Im still not totally sold on the snowflake hand but the BB58 really is a fantastic watch. The gilt accents, the case, the movement. It's really such a great homage to vintage divers. It doesn't get you the Rolex cool points but you also won't have people wondering if it's fake.

[Anonymous No.15177614]

umm...hello cringe department?

[Anonymous No.15177619]

>>15177559
EVERY NUMERAL CUT FOR YOUR PLEASURE

[Anonymous No.15177621]

>>15177613
I just wish Tudor wasn't such a pathetically dishonest company. They claim that they created the snowflake hands at military request for legibility but can't actually show any proof of that and claim stuff like their proto sub was military but there's no evidence of that either. It's like some weak ass stolen valor.

[Anonymous No.15177627]

>>15177614
I think the logo is great. It's funny that a Jap brand is trying to ape some heraldic symbology. It's like how seiko has an ultra premium line named Credor. They literally just picked some foreign word that they thought sounded cool.

[Anonymous No.15177629]

Anybody have any recommendations for vintage Spanish/Mexican watches?

[Anonymous No.15177631]

>>15177627
> Rolex

[Anonymous No.15177643]

>>15177627
Don’t forget “presage”
> noun - a sign or warning that something, typically something bad, will happen; an omen or portent.

[Anonymous No.15177655]

>>15177643
>>15177627
Japanese are all about that.
Like Lexus is owned by Toyota. Lexus doesn't mean anything they just did testing to find some random combination of letters that sounds luxurious.

[Anonymous No.15177682]

>>15177440
What model is this?

[Anonymous No.15177687]

>>15177631
>[Wilsdorf] also thought that the name "Rolex" was onomatopoeic, sounding like a watch being wound.
what? no.

[Anonymous No.15177688]

thoughts on the Ball watches? I like the trainmaster eternity

[Anonymous No.15177691]

>>15177529
They’re great. I wish I didn’t have to deal with all the waitlist bullshit attached to it. Makes me not even want to bother.

[Anonymous No.15177695]

>>15177691
I thought the whole point of Tudors was that you don't have to deal with the waitlist bullshit and can just get the watch?
>>15177688
They are pretty cool. I like the history behind them.

[Anonymous No.15177698]

>>15177691
ADs are the most useless retards imaginable. About a year ago I walked in prepared to buy a BB58 if they had one but the cock sucking faggot wouldn’t even tell me how long I could expect to wait. Go fucking drink bleach it’s a fucking Tudor. Absolutely pathetic that people would buy 3 precious metal cellinis then give the salesman and handjob for a fucking tudor

[Anonymous No.15177699]

>>15177695
Most black bays you can, but the black bay 58 has all the same Rolex waitlist bullshit attached to it right now. Any used is sold at a markup.

Maybe it’s changed since I last look around for them.

[Anonymous No.15177702]

If people are really struggling for money at the moment. Why arent the prices of used watches going down?

I want an Aqua Terra or a GS spring drive. In all the usual places everyone still wants the same prices for these. Is there some secret forums with these selling cheaper?

[Anonymous No.15177703]

>>15177699
Same with the GMT

[Anonymous No.15177704]

>>15177698
Yeah, similar experience for me

[Anonymous No.15177706]

>>15177702
>If people are really struggling for money at the moment. Why arent the prices of used watches going down?
Because watch flippers are all fucking stubborn fags who run on cope

[Anonymous No.15177708]

>>15177702
You have to lowball them. Not guaranteed, but definitely higher chance of them accepting

[Anonymous No.15177711]

>>15177703
I think Jomashop has some.

Basically Tudor now has the HODINKEE tax which will probably continue.

If they’re smart, they’ll release a modern iteration of a Prince Ranger. People will shit their pants over it

[Anonymous No.15177719]

>>15177711
Cont.

Yes, I know a modern Ranger exist, but they should make one after vintage oysterdate Rangers that resemble 1016 explorers. It would be the 58 all over again

[Anonymous No.15177720]

>>15177702
the recession has just started. Wait a while things will plunge

[Anonymous No.15177727]

>>15177702
as long as we keep getting told that "things" will open up "soon", the economy won't collapse enough to let scalpers/resellers cut prices

[Anonymous No.15177732]

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[Anonymous No.15177737]

>>15177708
What site is that you are using?

[Anonymous No.15177743]

>>15177732
is this guy the Jeremy Fragrance of the watch world?

[Anonymous No.15177744]

>>15177737
Chrono24

[Anonymous No.15177748]

do people actually like hublots/richard milles or is it some kind of richfag meme?

[Anonymous No.15177754]

>>15177743
He’s at least not completely braindead like Jeremy

[Anonymous No.15177759]

>>15177748
The niche internet community of watch lovers who like vintage and tasteful sizing isn’t representative of the majority who buy watches in real life.

The majority are pajeets buying 50mm Invictas. Richard Mille is for the ones who have money.

[Anonymous No.15177768]

>>15177516
So disappointed...

[Anonymous No.15177774]

>>15177573
Tbh, do you not feel like a try-hard with an homage? I’ve considered it since I can never justify a vintage Rolex, but I feel like a homage would never feel good to wear.

[Anonymous No.15177789]

>>15177774
to be honest I've kind of grown doubtful of the whole luxury thing. I bought a DateJUST a couple years ago as a present to myself for a promotion and just thought... is this really it? I could have gotten better watches for at least half the money, and then you start to see how much of it is just memes. if the homage is good I'll buy that and save money.

[Anonymous No.15177798]

>>15177748
when you have hundreds of millions of dollars, $20,000 for a rolex is mere pittance and will not be flashy enough on the wrist. They are looking for toys, something funky, showy and trendy to show off to their other rich friends.

To be fair to those watches, many are actually very highly complicated and impressively engineered. Their price point is not an issue to the clientele they are courting.

for example this jacob and co. has a floating double axis tourbillon (the 3rd axis being its cage) a 288 faceted diamond sphere for the moon and a lacquered magnesium globe for the earth. Each of those two spins on their own axis, and the whole thing, arms and all, rotates around the dial every 10 mins. It also comes with a fully working roulette wheel underneath and a tiny ball that actually jumps around. The asking price is $600,000.

[Anonymous No.15177822]

>>15177774
idk, a good watch is a good watch. Homages give an opportunity for regular people to test drive the look of a luxury watch without sinking the amount of money needed for one. Maybe the watch wouldnt suit you in reality. Or maybe you just want a fashion accessory that you wouldnt cry over if you dropped it on a tiled floor and chipped something.

as long as its upfront about being a homage and doesnt pretend its actually a real rolex/omega/tudor im personally fine with it. homage =/ = fake

[Anonymous No.15177825]

>>15177798
Wow it's hideous. If I was mega rich enough to spend retard cash on watches I'd at least get something that looks good like a Kari Voutilainen. That roulette watch is impressive but it also looks like something they'd sell in a mall kiosk.

[Anonymous No.15177833]

>>15177789
Right. I assume it’s just that the luxury brands marketing has brainwashed me. Like Ginault makes a milsub homage that seems to be the same quality as modern Rolex, but I just feel like I would never feel good about wearing it.

[Anonymous No.15177837]

>>15177825
its 50mm across and 25mm high, lol. Drake actually bought one.

the thing is they are not looking for something classy and understated, they are looking from something that screams for attention, something they can play around and show off to an escort at the back of their limo while they drink champagne and snort coke off the tray.

[Anonymous No.15177839]

Explorer 1 is all you need.

[Anonymous No.15177841]

>>15177839
Pretty sure the Explorer is just a big meme too. IIRC the watch Sir Hillary actually wore to the peak was a Precision.

[Anonymous No.15177932]

Waiting for prices to plummet so I can snag a bunch of cool Rolex and Tudor watches for nothing.

[Anonymous No.15177947]

>>15177839
G-shock with solar and multi-band 6 is all you need

[Anonymous No.15177952]

>>15177947
is solar and multiband worth the 2x increase in price?

[Anonymous No.15177954]

>>15177952
>still under $100
Yea

[Anonymous No.15177996]

>>15177952
If you live in a multi band 6 region, absolutely. Never having to set your watch is unbelievably good, and atomic without solar basically puts you at 2 year battery life which is pure garbage.

If you don't live in an area with good reception, maybe you're better off with something simpler.

[Anonymous No.15177999]

>>15177947
i wish they made gshocks for people with 6" wrists

[Anonymous No.15178000]

>>15177999
I wish they just made digital casios with atomic solar. The G-shock styling is pretty ugly.

[Anonymous No.15178003]

>>15175980
hey man I dont know if you'd read this, but take a pic of something (watch or whatever) and post it here

I'll drop my email and we can talk if you need someone to chat to casually

[Anonymous No.15178026]

whats the busiest dial you have seen on a watch?

[Anonymous No.15178118]

Thinking of buying one of these for my skx
Anyone ever used something like it?

[Anonymous No.15178128]

>>15177702
Because the people who are struggling for money aren't the same ones who are in the luxury watch market idiot?

[Anonymous No.15178132]

>>15178118
I've had a Suunto Clipper on the same nato strap as my Vostok. You need a strap with enough room in the watch segment to do this, otherwise the plastic on the compass' back will do things to your wrist.

Also, if you're going to be wearing a compass, be sure to confirm that it works every week or so. Those things can go out of whack permanently due to strong magnets and such, which aren't uncommon these days.

[Anonymous No.15178135]

>>15178118

[Anonymous No.15178138]

>>15178118
Don't get one of these you will look like a tremendous geek and tryhard

[Anonymous No.15178139]

>>15177432
>intensive purposes

[Anonymous No.15178141]

>>15177453
It looks like a cigarette company logo.

[Anonymous No.15178143]

>>15178141
And?

[Anonymous No.15178145]

>>15178143
If it doesn't bother you then great, but I guess some people just can't get over how it looks.

[Anonymous No.15178150]

>>15178143
It's not on a cigarette pack and smoking is cringe as fuck.

[Anonymous No.15178155]

>>15178128
not him but there are plenty of normies who get a rolex but then situations in their life change, recessions hit, someone gets an illness, they lose their job etc, and then they have to sell it

why do you think there are so many rolexes at second hand and pawn shops??

[Anonymous No.15178209]

>>15177932
good luck retard

[Anonymous No.15178211]

>>15178118
are you actually going to need it? or are you just going to use it to navigate the same route you take everyday to your bus stop/train station?

[Anonymous No.15178212]

>>15178132
Thanks
>>15178135
I know this I just want to larp >>15178138

[Anonymous No.15178215]

BACK

[Anonymous No.15178245]

>>15177708
That's a 14% discount, not really a lowball. Pretty fair depending on the watch.

[Anonymous No.15178286]

Teddy: "(watch preferences)...so let's say from $10000 and up."
Courtney: "I like them all."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFRiyskflXQ
lmfao

[Anonymous No.15178289]

>>15178128
He's talking about grand seiko and omega, big part of their customer base is the average guy looking for a nice watch.
You're insane if you think that only rich people buy luxury items, a lot of times is quite the opposite...

[Anonymous No.15178290]

>>15178118
well its only like $1 so whatever i guess

i dont think it'll work that well though. Cheap compasses generally dont have very good magnetism

[Anonymous No.15178293]

>>15178150
>smoking is cringe as fuck.

[Anonymous No.15178294]

>>15178289
>He's talking about grand seiko and omega, big part of their customer base is the average guy looking for a nice watch.
There's nothing average in buying a $10k watch retard. If you think someone who can afford that isn't rich you're delusional. That's more than the average yearly salary in my country.

[Anonymous No.15178305]

>>15178294
in many countries a rolex is well within reach of the average joe, they just have to save for a few months or half a year/ a year for it. Many do get one to show off and for ego, but then realise they actually cannot afford the upkeep. And there are those who just put everything on their credit card and spend well above their means.

$10,000 is a lot of money but its not astronomical. The starting monthly salary in my country is already $3000.

[Anonymous No.15178313]

>>15178305
Then you live in a rich country, and there's no reason for you to struggle for money is there imbecile?

[Anonymous No.15178319]

>>15178293
Smoking is what people with no personality do to try and seem cool.

[Anonymous No.15178322]

>>15178313
>being this butthurt and going on personal attacks for no reason
>you earn $3000+ a month so you'll never have money problems

do you think all countries are the same? yes starting pay is good here and yes its a "rich country". But rent is also $1000 a month, and a average car costs $100,000+ here. A nice dinner for two easily costs $100+. A rolex is out of reach for many in the world but its not the truth everywhere.

[Anonymous No.15178327]

>>15178322
>average car costs $100,000+
Cars cost the same everywhere in the world just like most technical/consumer goods mongoloid. Same as watches.

[Anonymous No.15178331]

>>15178294
>There's nothing average in buying a $10k watch retard
First of all, we are talking about second hand omega/grand seiko, they cost way less than that...
And ton of people save up pennies to buy designer bags/shoes, exactly the same thing with watches.
You are delusional if you think that only crazy rich people buy luxury items.

[Anonymous No.15178336]

>>15178327
>Cars cost the same everywhere in the world
>what is a road tax
>what is a car tax

the car taxes ALONE here is $30,000. And its only valid for 10 years so after 10 years you have to get it renewed again.

you dont know shit, dude. Not everywhere is the same and not everywhere is a 3rd world shithole

[Anonymous No.15178344]

>>15178336
The only places in the world that "car taxes" could costs $30k of *are* third world shitholes. Regardless, the car price is the same. Just order it online.

[Anonymous No.15178347]

>>15178294
>That's more than the average yearly salary in my country.
Pajeet, nobody cares about what you think.

[Anonymous No.15178355]

>>15178344
>third world
look up singapore and COE.

>just order it online bro why dont you download more ram for your computer
>what is an import tax

again, you dont know shit

[Anonymous No.15178371]

>>15178355
I literally just said third world shitholes though?

>tax
I'm talking about the price of the car shitbrain? If you can't pay your taxes on $3k/month, move or kill yourself because you're too dumb to live.

[Anonymous No.15178381]

>>15178371
>this retard still thinks all goods and services cost the same in every country and that tax rates are the same
stop embarrassing yourself
next you are going to tell me there are no poor people in america or europe because they are rich countries too

[Anonymous No.15178410]

>>15178381
>>>this retard still thinks all goods and services cost the same in every country
That is not what I said, I specifically said technical shit like cars and watches and computers and such.

Food and rent and real estate have different prices for example, although this obviously depends on what kind of food and what kind of places you're renting/buying, and it's been equalizing due to globalization.

And no, there are no poor people in America, not really, the "poverty line" is something like $20k/year or some shit, which is ridiculous. So there are just dumb people who accept getting jewed on shit.

[Anonymous No.15178430]

>>15178410
you can't be more wrong if you tried, its ridiculous

20k a year is definitely low income
in some places its touching on poverty tier. Just because you can live on 5 usd a day where you are doesnt mean its even practical in most parts of the world.

[Anonymous No.15178434]

>>15178410
>there are no poor people in America,

lol

[Anonymous No.15178441]

>>15178430
Alright, so what is so expensive in America that you can't get by on $20k/year. Let's hear the entire budget.

[Anonymous No.15178454]

>>15178371
singapore is 1st world dude. You literally have the IQ of a starfish

[Anonymous No.15178525]

>>15177798
Does anybody actually like Jacob and Co besides producer Michael?

[Anonymous No.15178531]

>>15178454
>>singapore is 1st world dude.
lmfao

[Anonymous No.15178546]

>>15177266
What watch do I need to attract this kind of women?

[Anonymous No.15178547]

>>15178441
1666.66/month
-1000 rent
-100 cell
-150 utilities
-500 savings, mostly retirement savings
-food
-clothing
-shoes
-taxes
I could pay less for rent, but I'd need a few more hours in the day and a $100/month for the bus or an hour and $500+ for a car.
I could not save money, but I'm not interested in dying on the street if I get laid off or old.

[Anonymous No.15178548]

>>15178546
trashy

[Anonymous No.15178549]

>>15178546
Anything over $100k

[Anonymous No.15178552]

>>15178531
>hurr it's not in the west or that place my animus come from so it's not First World
retard

[Anonymous No.15178556]

>>15178294
stupid hue monkey

[Anonymous No.15178558]

>>15178552
https://youtu.be/My4slqmfjAw?t=195

L M F A O

[Anonymous No.15178572]

>>15178558
>back alleys in the ghetto district where indian workers hang out and stay in
>OMG this is not 1st world, look at this [cherry picked example]

you are retarded. You could literally go to tokyo or new york and find the same seedy places.

[Anonymous No.15178580]

>>15178572
WOW shiny globalist shithole architecture amazing is it third world Dubai? Third world Toronto? Third world Melbourne? WHO CARES JUST CONSUME

[Anonymous No.15178596]

>>15178580
>the literal jealousy and cope of this 3rd world shitter as hes unable to fathom that a rolex isnt really that unaffordable for people in developed nations

[Anonymous No.15178600]

>>15178580
Why do you fall for memes on the internet and actually let them control your world view, i hope your under 20, otherwise just blow your brains out

[Anonymous No.15178608]

>>15178600
Tell me what's good about living in a glass house where you're under 24/7 surveillance with zero history zero tradition zero values, in before I can afford hookers with more plastic surgeries and my suit has 1% more cotton than yours.

[Anonymous No.15178620]

https://youtu.be/7WMi-RY3WfY?t=217

Is this shit any good?

[Anonymous No.15178623]

>>15178600
He is some peasant from some third world shithole that is furious that Americans that work at a grocery store can afford a Rolex. Try not to hold it against him.

[Anonymous No.15178626]

>>15178620
You could get a speedmaster for the same money if you shop around some or buy very lightly used instead of paying $3500 for some no name microbrand chrono with an off the shelf eta movement.

[Anonymous No.15178633]

>>15178623
>>15178596
Why are you repeating my original argument while arguing "against" me? You're 100% agreeing with me, I was claiming that Americans (and everyone else who's in the luxury watch market) can afford luxury watches just fine, and there will be no significant price drop. And also that they're whiny losers if they have that much money and still complain about being poor.

[Anonymous No.15178638]

>>15178633
>he doesnt understand the concept of a recession

just stop. You are either underage or really, really uninformed and probably a NEET

[Anonymous No.15178643]

>>15178626
>buying a ledditor watch instead of something unique and original
Should just couple it with a Sub and a G-Shock for the perfect 3 watch collection right?

[Anonymous No.15178647]

>>15178638
Just make sure to link all the amazing deals that you can't afford in this general in the next few months. Shall we set an end date to this massive price drop to confirm who was right in retrospect?

[Anonymous No.15178648]

>>15178638
Where are the cheap Rolexes? Link me a sub that I can buy right now at below retail.

[Anonymous No.15178652]

>>15178294
>That's more than the average yearly salary in my country.
lmao where you live? calcutta?

[Anonymous No.15178655]

>>15178643
It's random garbage. It will be worth 1/6th it's value on the secondary market in a few years. It's boring, it's bland, it has no heritage to back it up. It's just one of thousands of other microbrands that no one will give a shit about after they go bankrupt in a few years. If you love that watch more than any other chrono on the market that you can afford than maybe you should buy it. But don't expect anyone else to give a shit about it

[Anonymous No.15178657]

>>15177702
Recession hasn't started yet. Wait another month or three

[Anonymous No.15178660]

>>15178657
JUST WAIT!

[Anonymous No.15178661]

>>15178655
>It will be worth 1/6th it's value on the secondary market in a few years.
So? So will your computer, your phone, your girlfriend, what's the problem? Are you poor?

[Anonymous No.15178662]

[Anonymous No.15178664]

>>15178657
Uh-huh. Just tell us the date so we can check it in the archive, I'll make a note to post ITT on the day.

[Anonymous No.15178670]

>>15178661
You must be poor if you are considering a $3500 microbrand shitter instead of a speedy, a Datona, an El Primero, a Patek or any of the other vastly superior mechanical chronographs on the market.

[Anonymous No.15178677]

>>15178670
>just buy the watches everyone else is buying

yawn

[Anonymous No.15178679]

>>15178660
you are a peanut if you think shutting down half the world due to corona wont have any impact in the future

[Anonymous No.15178694]

>>15178670
>daytona
>vastly superior

[Anonymous No.15178698]

>note: While most of the watches produced by Hamilton are excellent, watch out for their co7.111 based movements like the P80 or the H10. These are a value engineered disposable movement with a synthetic escapement that cannot be repaired, and is replaced by Hamilton themselves during servicing. This was done without lowering the price vs the older ETA 2824-2 automatic models. Still a good accurate movement that can serve you well, just keep this in mind

H-50 same shit?

[Anonymous No.15178720]

>>15178694
Please enlighten us anon. What are the flaws in the Daytona's movement and how is it inferior to ETA's generic chrono movement?

[Anonymous No.15178723]

>>15178620
you can get the same movement in a better case from hamilton for like a thousand

[Anonymous No.15178726]

>>15178643
Despite the brand whoring the person you're replying to, he's right. Why pay 3k for a no name brand that isn't doing anything special? The only reason to get a microbrand is because they have something that normal brands don't, or value for the dollar. You could have bought a microbrand with the chink movement and a panda dial for a few hundred instead.

[Anonymous No.15178747]

>>15178720
I didn't mention the movement, the movement is fine. I implied it was an inferior product because:
A) it's hideous
B) its heritage is completely manufactured

[Anonymous No.15178754]

>>15178747
Oh, and;
C) it's massively overpriced (due to hypebeasts who don't realise A or B)

[Anonymous No.15178773]

>>15178546
Rolex, at least $35k. Or a Chinese sub homage if you like 'em with dicks.

[Anonymous No.15178793]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFo5Yu2VYzM

Why is the JLC product design director a bumbling retard?

[Anonymous No.15178802]

>>15178319
Nah man, I'm just a junkie for tobacco. Smoking hasnt been cool for a long long time.

[Anonymous No.15178803]

[Anonymous No.15178804]

>>15178305
Thats aexactly the point. The world doesnt stop at your border. No matter how you look at it, when you can buy a Rolex and still live your life you're rich.

[Anonymous No.15178814]

>>15177841
It’s a good looking watch. Who cares about the original marketing around it.

[Anonymous No.15178819]

>>15178814
>Who cares about the original marketing around it.
Rolex

[Anonymous No.15178825]

>>15178319
Ex Smoker here
Smoking has been and always will be cool and going for a smoke break at a bar/party has always been a fantastic way to meet and bond with people.
Smoking is cool, smoking will never not be cool. I has a whole set of aesthetics and ritual that are jut insanely cool. Sure an obese woman in sweatpants smoking is not cool but a cool person smoking makes them even cooler.

[Anonymous No.15178828]

>>15178804
lol poorfag thirdworlder still seething

[Anonymous No.15178829]

>>15178803
What's the reference # of that?

[Anonymous No.15178832]

>>15177996
I thought they had a 10 year lifespan?

[Anonymous No.15178833]

>>15178829
WZ0041DZ

[Anonymous No.15178837]

>>15178833
Thanks

[Anonymous No.15178850]

>>15178832
you have to be careful with battery life estimates because not everything uses the same amount of battery all the time. like I could be wrong on this, but IIRC if casio says something like "10 year battery" it means "the battery will last 10 years if you use the illumination and stopwatch feature 1 time per day" so if you use the illumination 3 times a day that is going to affect it

[Anonymous No.15178877]

>>15178793
Also am I the only one watching these 2020 teleconference announcements? They're... fucking terrible. The watches are just all completely meh, unless you want a $40k Lange, everything else just went in random design directions.

https://youtu.be/5Lgji_nXQoc?t=405

This is the one, IMO that's their best looking watch yet.

[Anonymous No.15178884]

>>15178877
Goddamn the lug/bracelet section is awful

[Anonymous No.15178896]

>>15177687
neat i thought he just thought it would sound cool and got the idea while using a rolodex

[Anonymous No.15178916]

>>15178825
Damn I miss smoking. Quit years ago

[Anonymous No.15178931]

>>15177822
i agree especially with unobtainable vintage watches. eg the milsub the other guy mentioned. its a 6 figure vintage watch. even if you did win the lottery and bought one are actually going to where it around much? watches like the mil sub are exactly what homages are for imo.

[Anonymous No.15178933]

>>15178877
>>15178884
The Odysseus is beautiful except that they wanted it to be a "sport watch" and spergs keep whining that it's too elegant to be a sport watch. The bracelet is amazingly comfortable but looks clunky which is why they gave up and decided to put it on straps, but they are poorly integrated. They probably should have not went for the integrated strap meme in the first place but here we are.

[Anonymous No.15178938]

>>15177822
>Homages give an opportunity for regular people to test drive the look of a luxury watch
And this doesn't make you feel like a complete failure in life?

[Anonymous No.15178952]

>>15178933
If I were paying 40k for a watch I'd expect it to have some ridiculous proprietary strap system. It looks great with a leather strap.

[Anonymous No.15178954]

>>15178952
>If I were paying 40k for a watch I'd expect it to have some ridiculous proprietary strap system.
Why? That's pointless and limiting. The Odysseus would look better with a non-integrated strap highlighting its beauty rather than adding chunk to it

[Anonymous No.15178964]

>>15178938
what does success in life have to do with the ability to buy luxury watches without thinking?

[Anonymous No.15178966]

>>15178877
>>15178952
Ha ha, that's ridiculous. I wonder what their take on a diver would be.

[Anonymous No.15178967]

>>15178837
>WZ0041DV
It's that ^
put a Z on the end by accident, use zenmarket and hound yahoo auctions if you try to get one or anything else older and JDM

[Anonymous No.15178968]

>>15178954
Yes yes everything has to look the same, gb2Patek Archie.

[Anonymous No.15178975]

>>15178968
No, retard. Not everything has to look the same. But if you're doing something different, it should be better. The Odysseus strap is worse than conventional straps. It is clunky implementation and they've actually made the watch more elegant from the original version with additional detailing, while simultaneously making it more sporty by putting it on rubber. That's confusion.
I like AL&S but they are unsure of what they want to do on this one, and it shows.

[Anonymous No.15178977]

>>15178661
>asks if a watch is shit
>gets told its no name shit
>spergs out
lol everytime i love 4chins ;)

[Anonymous No.15178990]

Make way for the true holy trinity sport watch

[Anonymous No.15179010]

>>15178990
Bitch please, the holy trinity is Casio, Seiko and Citizen

[Anonymous No.15179016]

The odysseus was so close imo. They absolutely fucking nailed the dial, that shit looks beautiful, and the symmetry of the big date and day displays are literal cum. My only gripes are that the quickset pushers are a bit too visually dominant, and the watch tends to look much better from angles where you can't see them (picrel). The other, bigger issue is the retarder strap decisions. They're so fucking W I D E

[Anonymous No.15179017]

>>15179016
>Still whining about the bracelet
You want everything to look the same? Just go buy a sub homage

[Anonymous No.15179022]

>>15179017
>Still
My first post about the odysseus
>Just go buy a sub homage
Retarded mental gymnastics

[Anonymous No.15179033]

>>15179016
this. they should have had regular lugs and released it on both the bracelet and leather strap and als fanboys would have creamed themselves over it being a baroque sport watch in the same vein as the reverso. It also would have been a huge statement to the industry - "we dont give a fuck what AP and PP are doing". But then you miss out on all the potential rapper and oil prince purchases (whisch i doubt theyre getting anyways). the whole watch reek of corporate meddling from richemont.

[Anonymous No.15179039]

>"Look what I got you, Anon! I heard you like watches!"

[Anonymous No.15179043]

13 year old Damasko is running at +3sd, feels good

[Anonymous No.15179064]

>>15178938
You fucking NEET larpers on this site.

I can almost guarantee I make more than most of y’all (software engineer NYC). Spending 6k+ on a watch is still a ridiculous purchase for most people.

[Anonymous No.15179072]

>>15178938
Archie is that you?

[Anonymous No.15179078]

>>15179033
They even cut a slot in the case for a tab in the endlinks to fit into, and for no fucking reason whatsoever. It's almost like they know it looks shit but they're too proud to admit it, so they made sure it would look retarded if you put it on a normal strap

[Anonymous No.15179080]

>>15179064
I think it's unlikely you make more than I do, but not sure what ad hom attacks have to do with anything. It's straightforward enough to say that a 6+ watch purchase is ridiculous for most people (which is definitely true).

[Anonymous No.15179084]

>>15179078
>Why

[Anonymous No.15179085]

>>15179078
fuckin germans man.

[Anonymous No.15179090]

>>15179084
>>15179078
>>15178877
>>15178952
>paying 40k for this

[Anonymous No.15179093]

>>15178975
Meanwhile I always disliked them and I think this is awesome. Guess they want to appeal to me, sux2bu Archie.
>>15178990
Ghastly.

[Anonymous No.15179098]

https://youtu.be/VmGoMagBcVs?t=494

Does any other Speedy ref have this 3D looking dial, except the original original and this reissue?

By "any other" I mean less expensive, this is ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.15179108]

>>15179093
the watch is a total mess and looks like it cant decide between being a dress watch or a sports watch

stop kidding yourself lmaoooo

[Anonymous No.15179109]

>>15178832
It's 2 years for radio models, because it turns out activating a receiver every morning is pretty power intensive. That's why the vast majority of radio models are solar, because solar can deal with the load.

[Anonymous No.15179121]

>>15179098
Some seiko chronographs (like old seiko phoenix, seiko brightz) do that, but you'll have to get one from Japan. There are newer ones, though.

[Anonymous No.15179129]

>>15179121
Whoops, I'm retarded.

[Anonymous No.15179132]

does anyone else like reading lulzy product descriptions for watches like this?

maybe im just too bored with corona chan going on

[Anonymous No.15179136]

>>15179129

[Anonymous No.15179137]

>>15179129
>egg subdials
wth are they doing?

[Anonymous No.15179139]

>>15179098
What do you mean exactly? New speedys still have recessed subdials and a lowered chapter ring

[Anonymous No.15179140]

>>15179121
>any other Speedy ref
Also to clarify, I'm talking about the outer ring with the hour/minute markers, the subdials are 3Dish on everything I think?

[Anonymous No.15179141]

>>15177614
agree.
crown is cringe since it's an obvious bite of ROWLECKS. like if I was going to be a comedian and call myself Jerry Seinfeld. nigga, that's the most successful comedian alive
>aw, nah, I just like how it sounds
bull. fucking. shit. that symbol is synonymous with rolex and that's that.
those lions have all that detail, then gets shrunk down to 2mm wide on the dial, it just looks like some busy squiggles.
if it was just the crest with the calligraphic O, it would look great but they add all the extra bullshit it looks a mess.

[Anonymous No.15179142]

>>15179137
It's supposed to be "feminine"

The black version is regular Speedmaster

[Anonymous No.15179143]

>>15177841
timex and a rolex

[Anonymous No.15179145]

>>15178546
They all have penises?

[Anonymous No.15179146]

>>15178026
Flightmaster

[Anonymous No.15179147]

>>15179139
>a lowered chapter ring
Talking about this, are you sure? Doesn't seem to be shit on the Speedy Pro.

[Anonymous No.15179149]

>>15178118
Meme. Not useful. Unless you're keeping as outdoorsman. Then larp away

[Anonymous No.15179150]

>>15179139
>>15179140
Ok got you, the chapter ring around the outside is still lower than the rest of the dial, it's just that on old models it was a hard step and on the new ones it's a bevel. Hope this clarifies

[Anonymous No.15179153]

>>15177614
It's a Jap thing

[Anonymous No.15179157]

>>15179150
https://millenarywatches.com/omega-speedmaster-moonwatch/

Can't upload this, it's too big, but it's practically invisible if it exists.

[Anonymous No.15179159]

>>15179147
>>15179150
>>15179157
It's more obvious from other angles, but yeah it's definitely less drastic than it used to be

[Anonymous No.15179192]

>>15179159
It's a nice watch, just tiresome what with all the special editions

[Anonymous No.15179194]

>>15179159
https://youtu.be/lwFede8M4Uw?t=192
This doesn't look that great. Oh well.

And this one even has smooth subdial insides, what is this?

[Anonymous No.15179196]

>>15179132
holy cringe, Batman

[Anonymous No.15179197]

>>15178828
Nah, lived there a while and very much appreciate everything we have now. You should try it sometime.

[Anonymous No.15179209]

>>15179132
>Epcot
what does this have to do with Walt’s vision/the based theme park?

[Anonymous No.15179222]

>>15179194
I've got no idea what's up with the subdials in that video. I'm 99% sure the new ones have the concentric grooves, maybe that was a slightly older ref?

[Anonymous No.15179227]

>>15179209
>>15179196
it gets worse lol

[Anonymous No.15179234]

>>15178952
>I'd expect it to have some ridiculous proprietary strap system
Literally offshore knockoff leather strap.
Beautiful dial and movement, but the case and bracelet look terrible. Pretty much the opposite of the code 11.59. Probably ap and lange should melt those watches together.

[Anonymous No.15179246]

Did i fuck up?

[Anonymous No.15179261]

>>15179227
>>15179132
Like reading the transcript of an alpham video.

[Anonymous No.15179272]

Why do I like this?

[Anonymous No.15179276]

>>15179272
Because you played too many JRPGs as a kid instead of going to the park like your parents wanted.

[Anonymous No.15179280]

>>15179272
final fantasy has become so incredibly cringe I would not wear this unless they were paying me

[Anonymous No.15179288]

>>15179276
My dad got me FF7 when I was a wee lad :^) >>15179280
Don't get me wrong I wouldn't wear it and definitely wouldn't pay 2.5k for it but I still like it for some reason

[Anonymous No.15179295]

I just found this bad boy on eBay mislisted as another brand of watch. Should I cop it for $250? It's used but looks like it's in pretty good shape.

[Anonymous No.15179296]

>>15179261
i just cant

its very entertaining

[Anonymous No.15179307]

>>15179227
I feel like the copywriter makes life bearable for himself by writing as cringy as he possibly can, knowing his idiot bosses will actually interpret it as good. there's no way he's serious, but yet such bullshit is exactly what a guy who would buy a 44mm black watch with a light brown strap and a no-name movement will actually want to hear and believe.

[Anonymous No.15179314]

>>15179307
Copywriting is actually one of my dream jobs. I'm sure that it pays like shit these days but it seems like it would be fun as hell.

[Anonymous No.15179315]

>>15179296
That one has truly ascended to a new level

[Anonymous No.15179320]

>>15179295
Never seen that model before, looks pretty cool

[Anonymous No.15179326]

>>15179296
Holy shit, That is incredible!

[Anonymous No.15179346]

>>15179314
You've seen Mad Men haven't you

[Anonymous No.15179354]

>>15179346
No I don't watch tv.

[Anonymous No.15179366]

>>15179246
Nope, that's based

[Anonymous No.15179398]

>>15179295
It’s pretty cool, but I feel like there are much better choices.

Would you still want it if was some random Chinese brand?

[Anonymous No.15179402]

>>15179296
Lmao, he has to be fucking around knowing this is what sells to the moronic population

[Anonymous No.15179424]

Ngl I really like the look of this shitter, might cop.

[Anonymous No.15179425]

>>15179424
it's kind of sad how invicta was once a respected watchmaker but now it's a super shitter brand people actively sneer at

[Anonymous No.15179434]

>>15179424
The 1953 is pretty based for a shitter rolex clone. The Australian YouTuber made a video about it.

[Anonymous No.15179443]

>looking at a watch with a black dial

Does dial color matter for pairing with a band? If I give it a brown leather band would that look weird?

[Anonymous No.15179445]

>>15177999
Just wear a gshock square like the gwm5610

[Anonymous No.15179449]

>>15179443
>Does dial color matter for pairing with a band?
Yes. If your dial is just black or white it makes it a lot more versatile, you can pair it with all kinds of wild straps in different materials or textures to freely alter the mood of it and go with whatever outfit.
If your dial is very distinct and colorful it will look garish on a loud strap so you have to go very restrained. A black dial watch, depending on the watch, can go well with nearly any strap.

[Anonymous No.15179456]

>>15179449
So, it’s effectively neutral?

[Anonymous No.15179458]

>it gets worse
Why

[Anonymous No.15179457]

thread is fast today

[Anonymous No.15179462]

>>15179456
Yes.

[Anonymous No.15179464]

>>15179457
Based tuna can
>>15179458
This is the ultimate cooker watch

[Anonymous No.15179468]

>>15179464
Coomer*

[Anonymous No.15179495]

Pre bond seamaster best seamaster

[Anonymous No.15179541]

>>15179159
>>15179194
>>15179222
This is very confusing. So which one do I have to get that has a display case back, concentric circles in subdials, and is also cheap?

[Anonymous No.15179560]

>>15179456
well, just to add that even though it is unpopular nowadays, the "rule" about not mixing e.g. black shoes with a brown belt is a rule for a reason. whether or not you agree with it is ultimately subjective but I for one don't get how people in their right mind would ever knowingly mix a black dial with a brown strap. however, just below your post, on a fashion board no less, someone did it.

[Anonymous No.15179580]

Hamilton calls their movements stuff like H10, H30... are those based on those shitty Powermatic unserviceable movements or what?

[Anonymous No.15179584]

>>15179580
they're not unserviceable, and yes

[Anonymous No.15179587]

>>15179584
Then why does everyone shit on the Powermatic so hard?

[Anonymous No.15179592]

>>15179587
It's hard to undo decades of marketing

[Anonymous No.15179593]

SNZG07 on a NATO strap

[Anonymous No.15179612]

>>15179560
It's not the same thing if the mediums are different. You don't only wear brown shoes with brown trousers, do you? There's a difference between mixing leathers and choosing watch straps

[Anonymous No.15179619]

>>15179587
There are things wrong with the powermatic that aren't its unserviceability.

The free-sprung balance is nice, but also makes it hard to regulate.
The parts availability is far worse than ETA 28 movements.
The extended power reserve is nice but its not really a technical innovation; they just dropped the beat rate.
The low-jewel count versions have a plastic escapement which is embarrassing (the higher-jewel count ones do not).
Other than those points it's fine.

[Anonymous No.15179623]

>>15177266
watches are for poor fags that want to look rich

[Anonymous No.15179633]

>>15179623
That's certainly an opinion. It's a dumb one but being dumb is definitely allowed.

[Anonymous No.15179634]

>>15179623
muh heritage owners? Yes. Casio and Vostok owners...well, some men just wanna watch the world burn

[Anonymous No.15179638]

>>15179623
I'm pretty sure cars fit that description better

[Anonymous No.15179644]

all you effay retards spending 200 dollars on ching chong watches while I wrap my 5 dollar japanese ebay watch that doesnt even work around your future wifes neck lmao

[Anonymous No.15179653]

absolutely BASED

[Anonymous No.15179657]

>>15179653
>pay to have what looks like a bootleg rolex

[Anonymous No.15179692]

>>15179653
> Nice Role- oh

[Anonymous No.15179697]

>>15179541
Halp please. This is clearly not the right one:

https://www.chrono24.com/omega/speedmaster-professional-moonwatch-357250--id11787672.htm

[Anonymous No.15179710]

>>15179653
Looks good to me NGL

[Anonymous No.15179715]

>>15179653
>even UN apes/has aped rawlecks
it's all so tiresome

[Anonymous No.15179723]

>>15179710
Lol, just looked it up. never mind. Just buy a fucking Rolex at that price

[Anonymous No.15179731]

>>15179653
I prefer the models with the mermaids eating pussy

[Anonymous No.15179772]

>>15179697
https://www.chrono24.com/omega/tritium-vintage-st-145022-speedmaster-professional-moonwatch--id13357401.htm

And the version from the 80s has them.... but no case back and it's from the fucking 80s.

[Anonymous No.15179780]

>>15179772
Just get the new one senpai

[Anonymous No.15179796]

>>15179780
So... 311.30.42.30.01.006 then? I'm very poor, it's 1k more!

[Anonymous No.15179810]

>>15179772
This is just reminding me that the speed master professional is overrated

[Anonymous No.15179811]

>>15179796
https://www.chrono24.com/omega/speedmaster-professional-moonwatch--id14737454.htm
https://www.chrono24.com/omega/speedmaster-professional-moonwatch--id13150506.htm

Uhh... wait a second, these don't have the grooves either.

I give up.

[Anonymous No.15179814]

>>15179811
https://www.chrono24.com/omega/speedmaster-professional-moonwatch--id14533724.htm

>2020
>smooth

[Anonymous No.15179868]

>>15179039

[Anonymous No.15179968]

Cop? Or a captain cook?

[Anonymous No.15180006]

>>15179968
Never liked the aquis, 65 looks better imo

[Anonymous No.15180111]

>>15179968
Absolutely get the aquis over the captain cook. The captain cook especially the smaller one is a fashion watch more than a diver and they have issues, no screw down crown etc.

[Anonymous No.15180144]

>>15180111
Even if it's a grand more?

[Anonymous No.15180155]

>>15180111
Yeah the 37mm captain cook would be a decent watch if not for no screw down crown and no lume on the bezel. Why did they do this?

[Anonymous No.15180180]

>>15179612
hey man, you wanna put a tan strap on a black dial watch, I'm not going to start a fistfight with you. I'll think you are ignorant, but I'll keep it to myself. except on an anonymous Siberian throat-singing forum where I'll bluntly tell you you have no taste.

[Anonymous No.15180220]

>>15179593
Looks better than it being on the cloth strap

[Anonymous No.15180428]

Are they a good brand or another designer mass produced bs?

[Anonymous No.15180454]

>>15180428
They're fine. They're a Citizen brand. They make pretty decent stuff compared to competitors at their price point.

[Anonymous No.15180518]

Thoughts on Egard?

[Anonymous No.15180532]

>>15180518
> a watch with two balance wheels where one balance isn't actually connected to the timekeeping or geartrain at all and is just for show
Tells you what you need to know

[Anonymous No.15180541]

>>15180454
They are trash. Polished shit is still shit.

[Anonymous No.15180591]

>Would totally buy a DW fashion watch for 30 bucks
>Can't find them on aliexpress anymore

What happened?

[Anonymous No.15180648]

>>15180591
The dw fad is over

[Anonymous No.15180707]

>>15180706
>>15180706
>>15180706
>>15180706

[Anonymous No.15181136]

>>15180591
Aliexpress started clamping down on fake watches, they all moved to Dhgate.