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2019, I am not forgotten.

>> No.14620819

>>14620657
One of his better fits desusenpai. Celine was disappointing, and YSL was repetitive and boring. Dude literally banned press who called him out on his cookie cutter shows.

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>>14620657
Literally who?

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>>14621319
Hedi Slimane you fat newfag twerp

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>>14621355
eyyyy young slim mane up in dis b

>> No.14621358

>>14620819
hes a rockstar, allow it

>> No.14621361

>>14621356
Yesss i knew i was not the only hediposter alive after the zoomer invasion

>> No.14621707

>>14621356
>intelligentsia fag
Figures.

>> No.14621868
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hedi is cute

>> No.14622654

>>14620819
Lol banning press is pretty badass vs sucking the press’ dick for a good review

>> No.14622990

>>14622654
Or you could just not ban press and not suck their dick.

>> No.14623080

>>14622990
Why should Hedi give her the privilege to come (not a right) to the show if her review is off mark and disrespectful? Critics said Saint Laurent was gonna tank just like they’re doing to Dave Chapelle’s new Netflix special. There is an agenda within the media and special snowflakes of this new generation. Instead of unpacking what Hedi is doing, they just choose a lazy angle of berating Hedi’s collections for being too skinny, too white, not experimental enough.

>> No.14624115

>>14620657
Yves Saint laurent era (pre dior homme era) was his best.

>> No.14624164

>>14623080
>Media Bad
Nigger opinion only held by the niggest of niggers. Illiteracy is a pest

>> No.14624379

>>14623080
That was only part of it. Critics though that it seemed like derivative recycling of looks from rock n roll past, and they predicted (correctly) that instead of building on YSL lineage, he would merely repackage Brand Hedi under the YSL name. He's managed to prove critics wrong about his marketing skills, but his creative direction and long-term contributions to a brand are still very questionable. He seems to leave houses with an identity crisis as he takes Brand Hedi somewhere new after they sacrificed their lineage for him to bring them quick money.

>> No.14624395

he' washed up like raf lmao
virgil shits on him

>> No.14624546

>>14624379
I don't believe in brand/house lineages and identities anymore. Karl said it right, designers are like football players being traded left and right. This era is all about the designer and less on the brand.

Hedi pays respect to the past, most people who make rash snap judgements don't have the knowledge of what is in the brand's archive. Hedi also didn't make an effort to spell it out, at Saint Laurent, because frankly that's corny and the people who are actually the customers don't care enough. Hedi's team is doing it a lot more for Celine and having shit explained to you feels corny, at least to me.

I think it is a supply and demand problem. The people actually buying shit couldn't care about heritage or lineage. If the consumers stopped buying, you bet Hedi's ass is going to have to try a new way to make that profit for them. It's the people who appreciate from afar that will get shafted.

>> No.14624734

>>14624546
Karl was right, but he also had respect for houses, which is why his multiple CD roles were visually distinct.

Don't you see why they gave Hedi Celine? They gave him one of their smaller houses because they new he would upend it and eventually leave it rudderless trying to compete with whatever his new home ends up being.

>> No.14624946

>>14624734

I hear how Hedi's stuff looks all the same, but to me it is difficult to see. I dislike his more experimental stuff at Dior Homme, and I don't think any of it would match well to his Saint Laurent direction. You can just look at the Navigate combat boots and compare them to fw13 Rangers and fw19 Rangers at Celine. All 3 share commonalities in Hedi's philosophy for footwear (elongated, low toe box, slim), but they all give off a different vibe.

Just speculating why they gave Celine to Hedi (since only insiders will know the full truth), it was an empty house with tons of opportunities and possibilities open. LVMH was not satisfied with how the trajectory of Celine is at, and is open to the idea of revamping it. Hedi has a penchant of wanting full control over all aspects of the brand. Therefore, Celine is a perfect fit. It is a smaller house, but I feel like LVMH has an expectation that under Hedi it will not be staying as a smaller house.

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>>14624946

Navigates from fw07 look experimental, with that sort of edgy vibe that feels futuristic

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>>14624946
fw13 rangers are very classical looking, even with the leather sole

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>>14624955
fw19 rangers is sort of an in-between where it shares some of the simplistic minimalistic vibe Hedi was going for at Saint Laurent, but he isn't as constrained to having it be very classical. This pair has a hidden side zip for ease of taking it on and off, and a rubber outsole (both with functionality in mind over style). Overall giving it a more modern vibe to me.

>> No.14624967

nigga you gay

>> No.14624968

>>14624952
>>14624955
>>14624961

At the end of the day, these all might just be sleek black combat boots with a high shaft and I can't disagree with that. However, that person just can't see past the superficial.

>> No.14624977

>>14621868
>Doesn't smoke, drink or do drugs
>is a man of God
is there any other designer as based as hedi?

>> No.14625002

>>14624977

I'm curious about his work ethic and how he manages to get all that shit done. Really excited for his upcoming fragrances.

>> No.14625566

i love hedi slimane, he asked his guards to escort asap rocky out of his store because he didnt know who it was and he thought he was some nig loitering lmao

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>>14620657
why are you so buttmad with ysl hedi? just move on with your life.

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I used to like SLP a lot but ever since I started getting constant tight pussy, that look just doesn't attract me anymore, now I'm more minimalistic. I won't sell my SLP pieces though, I'll keep them around and wear them every now and then, but not as often as I used to, trying to find a pair of leather wyatts to complete my boots collection (have gone through 2 pairs in 4 years)

>> No.14625823

>>14625581
hedi will grant u free puss dude

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>>14624164
There's a difference between blatantly biased journalism, and a proper insightful, reporting media. Journalism means nothing, especially in fashion - and, being an entitled journalist doesn't give you the right to mantle your high horse, and pretend that attending a show isn't a privilege, but a right for the "free press". She had it coming. Fast more, fatty.

>>14625002
Caffeine. French-Italian autism, and mass.

>Speaking for the first time about his upbringing, Slimane stated that he was brought up in the church: "My mother also raised me as a Christian, and even if I never talk about it, my faith, which was never imposed upon me, is really important in my life. It is present in the way I do things, or care about things. It gives me a sense of comfort, and strength."

Better start attending Church, Hedi boys.

>> No.14626009 [DELETED] 

>>14621868
can you wear the same fit jeans and booties, but with an oversized shearling coat?

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Can you wear the same fit jeans and booties, but with an oversized bulky shearling coat?

>> No.14626015

>>14621868
He looks like a smarmy old homo

>> No.14626106

>>14625998
>journalism is worth nothing especially in fashion
And a museum doesn't need a curator? I wasn't aware that I was in fact talking to a supreme gentleman of great taste.
Anyways thanks for the insightful rephrasing of
>Media Bad
I will see myself out

>> No.14626146

>>14626106
That's a false equivalence. A museum curator is a trained professional, a specialist. Someone responsible for ensuring the quality control, care, and display of items of cultural importance in cultural institutions. A fashion journalist is not a trained professional, nor a specialist. And the majority routinely interject their biased opinions into what are supposed to be analytic pieces, then go onto belittling the person of interest, while sitting on a throne of pretentiousness.

Media is required - I never badmouthed media. Where are you getting this from? In that same post, I said there is a difference between insight, reporting media, and yellow press. Yellow press, on the other hand, is rubbish, and shouldn't be held up in the same light as other forms of serious media. Once more, the journalist in mention, purely slandered Hedi Slimane - then was shocked, when the same person she slandered, decided to not allow her into his shows. You can't shit talk people under the guise of "journalism", and "free press". People need to be held accountable for their actions, especially yellow press journalists.

>> No.14626152

>>14625998
He only banned people that wrote unflattering things. It wasn't a statement about media entitlement. Instead, he invites a bunch of celebs who are already hedipilled cuz they'll lavish praise on him.

It's cool that we're actually talking fashion on here, but I think we're going to have to agree to disagree. You literally posted a bunch of HIGH QUALITY milsurp to show Hedi's supposed original creative vision.

>> No.14626161

>>14626152
Agree to disagree, of course. I'm not the original person, or the one who posted the boots. But, I do like generating discussion, or debate around fashion. There's no denying Hedi's attitude of "my way, or the highway", though.

>> No.14626758

>>14625581
There is also minimalism within Hedi's style. The permanent collection campaign with Dylan Brosnan is a good example of minimalism.

>> No.14626764

>>14626161
Analsdream is such a dumb cunt, stick it to her

Lol "my first born", bitch you ain't gonna get pregnant no more you missed your chance.

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>>14626152
His creative vision is making sure the milsurp doesn't look like shit and also the leather quality is soft just has integrity and not flimsy. Just got in a pair of double buckle rangers for 2013 and damn do they make me hard.

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Hedi's footwear is absolutely beautiful

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ss13 army rangers are also a work of art

>> No.14627638

>>14626909
Happy to see boots other than Wyatt chelseas got some recognition

>> No.14629086

>>14627638
Combat boots have always been a big part of Hedi's style, but it is easily overlooked because of how popular Wyatts are

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>>14629086

Hedi feels like combat boots can be worn almost for every occasion. Whether it is a more formal look.

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There's also combat boots with more casual looks

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Same pattern continuing even at Celine

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Celine casual look with combat boots

>> No.14629148

When I really look past the superficial, it is obvious how Hedi had a different general message for each of the three brands. Saint Laurent definitely feels more rooted into reality/there is more of an attempt for historical accuracy. Basics done well.

Dior Homme has that experimental vibe that people can interpret easier as "fashion". A lot of "fantasy" in the looks. Pros and cons. Pros is that it is more magical and may evoke more emotions, but the cons is that it makes you look like a try hard in real life. In my opinion it is hard to not look cringe in the eyes of normies.

Celine is sort of an in-between. For fw19 it really looks like Hedi is taking things rooted in the past but mix and matching things that people didn't wear together in the past to create something new fresh and more modern.

>> No.14629268

>>14629117
what are some similar boots that don't cost 700 plus dollars?

>> No.14629394

>>14629268

Might just want to keep your eyes open at Zara/Topman/H&M, I think more and more brands are going for slimmer/elongated lace up boots. Then eventually save up for the ones you really love.

>> No.14629444

>>14629394
I'm willing to spend a bit more, I'll rather not cop a pair from fast fashion stores.

>> No.14629446

>>14629444

Alden plain toe lace up boots have that nice streamlined look, but I would probably just look a the secondhand market and keep tabs for when my size shows up

>> No.14629450

>>14629446
oh I completely forgot about Alden plain shoes, thanks for reminding me

>> No.14629480

>>14629450

just spreading the good gospel

>> No.14630372

>>14629131
It's just me or the Celine rangers looks way bulkier than slp?

>> No.14630375

>>14630372

Yeah fw19 rangers bulkier than fw13 rangers because the CELINE ones are worn with wider bottoms and the fw13 ones are designed for skinny jeans

>> No.14630485

He's so overrated I remember when his dh and yslph shit sold for more than new...why?!

You just look like the faggot ideal of a rockstar

Not to mention the Chinese coopting his slp era firs for wockstar super effeminate

>> No.14630543

>>14626152
No one actually rich goes to fashion shows. FS are for dilettantes and sycophants

>> No.14630926

Any ways to achieve his aesthetic without wearing awkwardly high cut jackets? I already have a slim body so straight/skinny pants wouldn't be a problem. His jackets otherwise is borderline impractical to my taste

>> No.14630947

>>14630485
LOL complaining about supply and demand.

In my opinion I think guys should be wearing low heel footwear on a day to day basis. Leave heels only for special events or else you risk looking like a tryhard. All fashion done by gay designers are faggot ideals. Can’t argue against the look being effeminate. However, he has released so many collections now, he has basically something for almost everyone. Not everything is just about Wyatts.

He normalized the skinny silhouette at Dior, heels for men at Saint Laurent, and he will normalize purses for men at CELINE.

>> No.14630949

>>14630926
High arm holes give you more movement than a low arm hole jacket. Just imagine raising your arm with a low arm hole jacket, it would only go up so high.

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>>14630485
Retard. Hedi's accomplishments, numerous looks, and prowess, doesn't boil down to "rock-star". Have you not seen his boots, or experimental work at Dior Homme?

There's far, fare more to Hedi Slimane than YSL. You know, maybe if you spent more time into researching someone who's "so overrated", instead of spewing your namefag opinions, you wouldn't embarrass yourself.

Although, I wouldn't be surprised if you're just upset that Hedi Slimane caters to the thin people in life, whereas you're an overweight, bloated, greasy haired fat fuck with an equally whale-ish wife.

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>>14631921

I hope that by smelling his upcoming fragrances, I will have an even better understanding of his universe. Based on interviews, he wears Parade, Black Tie, and Reptile for sure. I wonder how often he wears the other ones.

>> No.14632238

>>14625581
you went through 2 pairs of wyatts in 4 years? How the fuck? We're they suede and you just didn't give a shit about them or something?

>> No.14632240

>>14632238

It makes more sense to treat Rangers as beaters/daily wear boots than Wyatts.

>> No.14632244

>>14632240
I guess but wtf were you doing with them? I wear my wyatts pretty much daily and they still look great.

>> No.14632245

>>14632244

I'm not the one who wore out their Wyatts that quickly. It doesn't make sense unless they were constantly damaging the leather uppers because the sole and heel can always be repaired.

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>>14632245
I guess if you're style was super clean any scratches would really bother you and you'd replace them more. Lucky for me I like the look of beat to shit wyatts

>> No.14632358

>>14632258
don't understand being upset by scratches though. lets say, hypothetically, you were an actual rock star wearing wyatts, you're gonna beat the shit out of them eventually - the super clean wyatt look doesn't make much sense

>> No.14632414

>>14632358
It kind of does. The wyatts aren't just "rockstar boots" they're dress shoes shaped like rocker boots. FW13 was the synthesis of grunge and extremely flashy luxury, not just kurt cobain/rockstar fits made by a high fashion brand.
I lean more on the grungy aggressive side so it works for me.

>> No.14632498

>>14632258
It is easy to fix it up, just get some sandpaper (600) then move up to 1500. Then get some black leather dye to dye it back, polish and it will become more presentable. But my style is pretty clean so I wouldn't be able to tolerate those scratches.

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>>14632358
to each their own really, but I really like the luxe aspect of fw13 so I keep my relatively presentable. Also mine at fw13 so hard to find another fw13 pair to replace. If it was easy to find replacement pairs that were up to my standards, then I could se myself beating it up then replacing it when worn to death. I also keep mine with a leather sole to keep it being more luxe (unlike this pic).

>> No.14632515

>>14632258

I also like the variety of fits that would work with a presentable pair, such as pairing it with a suit. But of course it loses that "I don't care" attitude that yours have.

>> No.14632520

>>14632414
Yeah, I agree, there is more than one way to rock the Wyatts. If the trashed look is the only way, they would have created it with pre-distressing (like the ss16 sneakers).

>> No.14632531

>>14632498
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFt61PRMxdc

>> No.14632997

>>14632531

Another common misconception is that cemented footwear cannot be resoled. There is no real difference between resoling a cement construction and a Blake construction. You can also turn a cement construction to Blake construction with just a set of stitches that any cobbler can add.

>> No.14634259

>>14620657
He's a talented photographer. Say what you will about his vision, or fashion taste, whatever, but you can't act like his photography-based work isn't great.

Also, here's some Slimane trivia.

>“Hedi eats loads,” Street-Porter told me. Tennant recalled, “One time at his hotel in London, Hedi had chicken goujons as a starter. Then, for his main course, he had a larger portion of chicken goujons. I told him I thought this was strange, and he said, ‘But they’re very good.’ ”

>Hedi Slimane sends out illegible notes—white cards with his name printed in the center, in Helvetica type, and horizontal lines scribbled above and below. He assures friends that these lines are actually words and sentences and that the sentiments they express are warm ones.

>> No.14634357

>>14634259
>hedi loves his tendies
literally /ourguy/

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>>14634357
>he thought the skinny, introverted, awkward guy who obsessively listens to music and prefers to observe rather than directly interact, who was bullied all throughout his childhood wouldn't love his fair share of tendies

>> No.14634461

>>14634259
> Slimane doesn’t drink, smoke, or do drugs. He merely fetishizes the appearance of those who do.

This is me.

>> No.14634471

>While in Paris, he keeps a car and driver on call around the clock, in case he decides to go out searching for models in the early-morning hours. The car is a Jaguar. The driver wears Dior. “It would be a bit strange for him to show up in a funny suit,” Slimane said.

Every detail has to be on point.

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>“Hedi’s lagging behind. I notice he’s standing there admiring his wetsuit. He’s saying, ‘This is the ultimate suit. This is the wetsuit suit.’ It was like watching this strange creature trying on a new skin. I think the cut of the wetsuit suit may have snuck into his designs a bit.” Aitken gave him some pointers and began paddling out with some friends. “After two minutes, we looked back and saw two legs sticking out of the foam. He likes to think he almost died that day—‘Doooug, I almost drowned!’ ”

hedi's cute as fuck, n-no homo

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Been thinking more and more about fw19 Celine. Only issue I have with it is that it is a bit on the "experimental" vibe for me. Whereas currently my wardrobe isn't that experimental at all. It just doesn't have that space for it. I don't want to have genres that don't mesh easily together like one day wearing Rick Owens and next day wearing Thom Browne.

Ss19 is not bad to incorporate into my wardrobe. It seems relatively classical still. The experimental edges are toned down compared to fw19. I acknowledge it is barely experimental (especially when you compare it to his Dior stuff), but currently my stuff is pretty "basic".

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Jacno 30s pretty sexy

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>>14634475
What drugs is he on?
I am convinced Gylenhaal was irl on drugs when filing Nightcrawler.

>> No.14635430

>>14635427
It's no digital effects, he acts really like he is on drugs. usually Jake is kinda low energy.

>> No.14635463

I feel like the "cult classic"* status that his Dior Homme work retained during 2007-12 went to his head a bit and now he just goes with the flow, instead of directing it

* not to say it only had niche appeal, but even 12 years later there are still obsessive DH fanboys like myself. I doubt his SLP work will be anywhere near as relevant in 2028 as his Dior work is now

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>>14635463
>I feel like the "cult classic"* status that his Dior Homme work retained during 2007-12 went to his head a bit and now he just goes with the flow, instead of directing it

It would depend on what the next generation thinks is cool. The Dior Homme stuff is very fashion in how it is more than just clothes. There is that extra flair that gives someone that they can become more than who they are. They also tended to be quite loud as a result and easily identifiable.

The Saint Laurent stuff is much more grounded into reality. Everything feels real and more authentic. Very detailed and precise clothing disguised as normal clothes. The beauty is a lot more subtle. Can be seen as basics done well. Instead of having the clothes do the talking, it takes a step back and lets the wearer shine more.

I feel like he was going with the flow with experimental/conceptual fashion until he realized how "unreal" it is. That's the moment he started rejecting the the more fantastical and choosing something that is more grounded. One reason I suspect is because of how much more effortless it looks in comparison to conceptual fashion. He also really likes dressing the youth, and more and more youth are into vintage and cosplaying the past instead of cosplaying some conceptual fashion stuff. I also think it was his constraint he set for himself at Saint Laurent. The "house code" is to be a bit more classical.

Now at Celine, I feel like he is introducing more experimental energy into his clothing. He isn't going back into Dior Homme to create super new ideas, but he also isn't as focused on historical accuracy as when he was at Saint Laurent. Fw19 is anchored in the past, but it seems like the pieces are mix and matched in a way that is different from the past. People from the past didn't exactly wear the items like how Hedi styled them. I feel like Celine can go horribly wrong when people style the pieces wrong. They can totally turn it from modern looking into dad cosplay.

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There's something off when looking at it purely from a historically accurate lens. This "off" feeling is what makes it feel fresh and new for me. >>14629126

>> No.14635508

>>14634475
imagine doing molly with your mates one night and being made a meme

>> No.14635552
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Celine

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Zara

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Zara's washed blue denim and black lace up boots

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Celine's washed blue denim and black lace up boots

>> No.14635588

>>14635463

Also I feel like "Cult Classic" means very little at the end of the day realistically. If it isn't making money, it doesn't matter. It really only matters to people who are invested in history. Majority of people nowadays are not interested in dressing like Dior Homme.

It's all about money for these corporations. Giving people what they want will get you money. Hedi's high value is precisely that. He knows what people want, sometimes even before they know that they want it, and presents it in an easily digestible format that attracts customers. He might not have been the first to push "bourgeoise", but he is able to package the idea so that it reaches the masses. I think fast fashion is copying fw19 women's boots as we speak. In that way, I do feel like he's directing it still.

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I'm looking forward to 20 year cycle hitting Dior Homme's early years because I think that shit was the coolest

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>> No.14635884

>>14635378
Ss20 is the way to go if you don't mind the old look done to death

>> No.14635886

>>14635614
Oh hey it’s mini rick

>> No.14635946

>>14635606
It's so close when you think about the silhouettes and graphics coming back slowly.

>> No.14635979

>>14632414
They’re actually just harness boots with a very sleek pointed profile . They are not dress shoes at all

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>>14635979
I see it the opposite: they're heeled dress boots with a harness. Wyatts are more similar to Jonny's than biker motorcycle boots.

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>>14635979

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>>14635979

moto boots fw13

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>>14636092
notice the chunkier vibe

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>>14636089
notice the sleek chisel toe

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>>14636096

chisel toe that both Jonny's and Wyatt's share

>> No.14636123

>>14636081
they are fucking harness boots. That's what they are. Not all wyatts have harnesses, they are not harness boots. You wear wyatt harness boots? You are wearing harness boots. Not dress boots.

>> No.14636130

>>14636096
So? They are still harness boots. The entire profile is distorted becaues of the harness. You can make the toe box as sleek as you want, but you are still stapling on a harness strap to them, they are harness boots.

>> No.14636132

>>14636094
yes, those are harness boots with a chunkier sole

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>>14636123
I see, so anything with a harness to you will amount to nothing more than just being a harness boot. That's a pretty superficial way of looking at things.

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>> No.14636225

>>14636164
>I see, so anything with a harness to you will amount to nothing more than just being a harness boot.
yes, That's exactly my opinion. The boot in your pic rel is a harness boot, it's just a really flimsy abstract shaped harness boot. But a harness boot none the less. The presence of a Harness, collapses it into being a Harness Boot. A Wyatt boot (without the harness), is simply a Boot.

>> No.14636616

Hedi is a legend, drop more trivia plssss

>> No.14636625

Reminds me of Lovecraft for some reason

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>>14636625
Who was pretty effay

>> No.14636658

>>14636625
does Hedi posess the N-word pass?

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>And now, three new colognes are set to join the olfactive family. "I'm very attached to this cologne project," Hedi told Fashionlines. "It's very personal, and I'm very happy about it because it is part of the long, classical French tradition in the spirit of the 18th century." Eau Noire, Cologne Blanche, and Bois d'Argent, with their short, essential and atonal formulas, express a new masculinity based on mindset, line and allure and reflect the esprit of the Dior Homme atelier at 40, rue François 1er. Thus, they may be worn as much by women as by men.

Interesting how Hedi describes those 3 colognes having short, essential, and atonal formulas.

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>>14637418
a part of me is nervous about the upcoming Celine fragrances. Releasing 11 in the collection is definitely something that is suspicious to me. Because of his interviews talking about them, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that it isn't purely a cash grab. I sort of understand why he has to pump out 11 since Chanel and Dior both have a lot of fragrances in their higher end line. Hedi is positioning Celine there. Priced higher than Dior but less than Chanel.

>> No.14637994

>>14636616
>Slimane was born in Paris and grew up in the Buttes-Chaumont district. His father, who is Tunisian and a retired accountant, had been a boxer in Bordeaux (poids léger, of course), and he met Hedi’s mother, an Italian, when she was working as a coat-check girl in a club in Saint Germain des Près. (“He won her over with a great dance,” Slimane told me.) He hardly keeps in touch with them. In his early teens, he spent vacations with an uncle who lived in Geneva and hung out with a “free-spirited” cousin and her brother, “who was quite the opposite,” Slimane said. “Something like the Patrick Bateman character in ‘American Psycho.’ I was stuck between indie kids and call girls, squats and palace hotels.”

>“I don’t like the ladders,” Slimane said. “They create a tension within the space. I’d rather have the stages kept free.”

>"Hedi Slimane can’t drive. He’d like to learn how, but he can’t find the time."

>"Tom Ford is not my cup of tea. I don’t respect him, not at all. He is not a designer. He is a marketing man.”

>> No.14638010

>>14636658
He's quarter-Tunisian, and Tunisia is in Africa, so technically, yes? But, I think the French, and Italian cancels out Hedi Slimane's nigga pass

>> No.14638170

>>14637994
>"Tom Ford is not my cup of tea. I don’t respect him, not at all. He is not a designer. He is a marketing man.”
absolutely based

>> No.14638376

>>14638170
The same could be said for Slimane.

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>>14638376
Not only is Hedi a designer, he can also market his shit well. But what's really cool is that thankfully he doesn't need to cater to everyone. It either clicks with you or not.

His footwear philosophy just too beautiful. His fragrances are also amazing. His design philosophy for his stuff that is designed to "last" just speaks to me.

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>>14638376
Wrong. Slimane has never appealed to the masses. He's infamous for his attitudes, and non-compromise nature. He's carved out his own niche, and delivers solely to his niche, while also keeping them on their toes, instead of constantly pandering. He doesn't have a team of marketers who lurk social media for latest trends, or whatever the fuck. Hedi Slimane doesn't fuck around, none of that shit.

There is no compromise with Hedi Slimane. Hedi Slimane does not care for PR, or journalism, or anything of that sort. Hedi Slimane does what he wants, what he feels is right - it's Slimane's way, or the highway.

>> No.14639147

How tall is Hedi Slimane?

>> No.14639180

>>14639147
probably around 6 feet

>> No.14639182

>>14638854
Which is interesting why people argue against him staying so hyper focused when other designers like Carol Christian Poell gets a pass for releasing the same shit again and again in different colour ways.

>> No.14639662

>>14639180
yeah i think too

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>>14639147
>>14639180
>>14639662
Here's Hedi Slimane with David Bowie. Take into account that Hedi Slimane's head is looking downward, but David Bowie is 5'10-ish, and still seems to be head-to-head somewhat with Hedi Slimane. So, I'd argue Hedi's somewhere between 5'10-6'0.

>> No.14640454

>>14639182
Never understood the general animosity towards Hedi Slimane. From what I remember, he was fairly loved while at Dior Homme, but ever since Saint Laurent, people just shit on him. What gives? Even at Celine, people are bitching, genuinely bitching, over an accent mark which was never there to begin with.

>> No.14640769

>>14640454
>Never understood the general animosity towards Hedi Slimane. From what I remember, he was fairly loved while at Dior Homme, but ever since Saint Laurent, people just shit on him. What gives? Even at Celine, people are bitching, genuinely bitching, over an accent mark which was never there to begin with.

I think it is a combination of people expecting Hedi to do one thing then getting butt hurt he isn't doing what they want him to do, and how they're just sheep listening to whatever the fashion "critics" are saying. They blindly believe in these "authorities", and go with the narrative without their own critical thinking.

They're also very disconnected with the reality of what fashion houses really stand for nowadays. Gone are the days of tradition in the sense of the designer being the brand's founder. It really is a game of musical chairs where designers switch from house to house. The brand now are the actual designers. Helmut Lang was no longer Helmut Lang the moment he left his brand.

The universal truth is nothing speaks louder than your wallet. Raf Simons' Calvin Klein bombed no matter how much "praise" it got. Fashion is more complex than art. It is something that needs to be bought, and not only praised from afar, in order to survive. The people who whine the loudest really don't matter to the brands because they weren't the core audience anyways. I think overall controversy is good for Hedi, and people are so predictably fickle. So many people hated on Saint Laurent in the beginning now they're buying into it. The same will happen to Celine.

I empathize with people being upset that their Céline is gone. It's part of the grieving process of loss. Only thing I have issue with is them not realizing that Céline was gone the moment Phoebe stepped down. Céline was always Phoebe anyways and wasn't part of the brand "heritage".

>> No.14641100

>>14640769
>Raf Simons' Calvin Klein bombed no matter how much "praise" it got
I still don't really get why almost everything from calvin raf just sat for months. Was it really that unappealing? The prices just way too much even for his fans?