/wt/ - Watch Thread

[Anonymous No.14259249]

This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering, and materials engineering that are required to make a functioning timepiece.

Thread video:
> https://youtu.be/jJNZbvRLAUU

Guides:
> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

Should I buy this MVMT / DW / *Fashion brand* watch?
> Scroll through this album first: https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, flieger, etc...
> Desired bracelet option, e.g. leather, nylon, metal
> Wrist size or desired watch size, e.g. 17cm / 38mm

Previous thread: >>14256797

[Anonymous No.14259255]

Nothing quite like the classics. A tool watch that has aged gracefully, showing it's been used the way it should be.

[Anonymous No.14259267]

>>14259249
Looks beat to shit

[Anonymous No.14259269]

>>14259249
Soviet speedy

[Anonymous No.14259288]

>>14259267
No u

[Anonymous No.14259294]

Stowa from 1946 I got a long time ago for 30€ in a flea market in Germany . Just came to my parents’ house for Easter holidays and forgot I had it.

[Anonymous No.14259301]

>>14259294
Damn you’re old as fuck. What’s surviving WW2 like?

[Anonymous No.14259304]

>>14259294
It was given to some worker named Joh. Scherwinski from a company called “RSW” back in 1946 according to the inscription on the caseback . That guy has been dead for a really long time.

[Anonymous No.14259305]

>>14259269
Looks like you got it in a cereal box

[Anonymous No.14259311]

>>14259294
Looks great. Change the strap and it would be a nice daily wear.

[Anonymous No.14259344]

Challenge for the thread:

With a budget of 15,000 dollars, using retail prices, come up with a collection of three watches: a daily wearer, a dress watch, and a sports watch.
Watches must all be Swiss and mechanical.

Hard mode: all three must be the same brand.

[Anonymous No.14259347]

i often read that "mall watch" is used as a pejorative here often

are you aware that some malls sell luxury watches?
https://www.selfridges.com/GB/en/cat/mens/accessories/?fh_sort_by=price_dsc&pn=2

[Anonymous No.14259350]

>>14259347
delet dis

[Anonymous No.14259351]

>>14259344
114060 no date sub
jlc reverso tribute to 1931
speedmaster pro

[Anonymous No.14259369]

>>14259344
Daily: Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra (5,500.-)
Dress: Omega Deville Prestige (3,750.-)
Weekend: Omega Speedmaster Pro (5,350.-)

Total: 14,600

[Anonymous No.14259370]

make no mistake what longines target audience is

[Anonymous No.14259376]

>>14259351
Pretty sure that overshoots the 15k limit by a lot.

[Anonymous No.14259389]

>>14259344
Rolex OP 36mm
Omega MOTFM
Zenith Elite Automatic

5400 + 5350 + 4700

[Anonymous No.14259393]

>>14259351
>>14259369
>>14259389
I thought the speedmaster pro was a meme

[Anonymous No.14259403]

>>14259370
yeah its for real fans of hot horology

[Anonymous No.14259412]

What are some essential “small fry LARPing as big shot” watches?

[Anonymous No.14259420]

>>14259412

[Anonymous No.14259422]

Want to discuss watches in a relaxed environment where you can find industry professionals who don't take themselves too seriously?

https://discord.gg/v39h2Cz

[Anonymous No.14259425]

>>14259412
Tudor BB, cheaper grand seikos, omega seamaster, rolex explorer

[Anonymous No.14259427]

>>14259412
Any Longines.

[Anonymous No.14259429]

>>14259344
All Zenith, the El Primero 1968 for daily, the Elite Auto for dress and the Pilot Automatic for weekends. Leaves you with a couple grand to spare, even.

[Anonymous No.14259431]

>>14259412
Isnt the pelagos just the blue collar mans watch - being simple, not recognizable, affordable and tooly?

[Anonymous No.14259440]

>>14259393
Only a meme among the contrarians of this thread. There’s a reason it’s so popular among watch enthusiasts.

[Anonymous No.14259443]

>>14259305
Where do I get those cereals?

[Anonymous No.14259450]

Boys I finally found it, a rolex that I throughly like on my wrist.

[Anonymous No.14259455]

>>14259431
It's 4500 bucks, hardly blue-collar.
But it's more about what it isn't, namely a Sub.

Tudor was founded by Rolex specifically to sell watches to less affluent customers without having to dilute Rolex quality or prestige. When you're wearing a Tudor, you actually are telling the world you couldn't afford a Rolex.

[Anonymous No.14259456]

>>14259450
Lmao. How’s that vacation in Shanghai going? Those fake product malls are fascinating, right?

[Anonymous No.14259462]

>>14259456
yes extremely!

[Anonymous No.14259464]

Is there any reason to buy a submariner over a seamaster other than so you can say you own a rolex? The seamaster seems so much nicer to me

[Anonymous No.14259470]

>>14259456
Especially their ALS fakes are on point

[Anonymous No.14259471]

>>14259464
>other than so you can say you own a rolex?
Assuming you can afford both, the prestige of the coronet is 90% of it, in all honesty.
But if you actually like the look of the Seamaster better, that's cool. There are some very cool-looking watches in the lineup.

If you plan on selling it someday, the Rolex will also retain its value much better. That's something.

[Anonymous No.14259480]

do people actually buy watches and hope they sell for more later?

buying a watch for the resale value seems pretty fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.14259482]

>>14259464
>The seamaster seems so much nicer to me
Rule number 1 of collecting watches: Only buy what you really like.
Go for the Seamaster.

[Anonymous No.14259483]

>>14259464
The Sub is a classic design that's effectively unchanged since its inception decades ago. It's one of a handful of designs that's never had to change.

[Anonymous No.14259484]

>>14259471
Isnt rolex a lot more expensive to service? Would be more worried about servicing than selling either watch. It would be an end game watch id keep forever

[Anonymous No.14259485]

>>14259480
>do people actually buy watches and hope they sell for more later?
Yeah, they're called professional watch flippers.

[Anonymous No.14259487]

>>14259483
Yeah thats my problem with it. Ive seen it a million times and its just kind of boring to me and normies would likely think its an invicta

[Anonymous No.14259488]

>>14259484
>Isnt rolex a lot more expensive to service?
Yes, typically, but realistically, you'll have to service the watch a handful of times over your long ownership. Every five years is nonsense. Service it when it's damaged or when it stops keeping good time.

[Anonymous No.14259491]

>>14259464
Which Seamaster are you looking at?

[Anonymous No.14259492]

>>14259488
Im just thinking if i bought in a few years, in my early 30s, i feel like id be servicing the thing a few times before i die

[Anonymous No.14259497]

>>14259487
>normies would likely think its an invicta
normies would more likely assume it's fake lol

[Anonymous No.14259498]

>>14259491
The new one with the ceramic dial and the waves lazered in it

[Anonymous No.14259503]

>>14259492
my dad bought his datejust when he was 30, has worn it every day since, and he's serviced it once in 40 years (and that was only when he damaged the crystal while playing tennis with it on)

[Anonymous No.14259505]

>>14259498
nice. this one?

[Anonymous No.14259512]

>>14259505
Yeah in black. It really appeals to me

[Anonymous No.14259520]

>>14259512
Go for it. It's a great watch, it's got a style all it's own that's been evolving since the early 90s.

[Anonymous No.14259548]

>>14259492
It's like 3800 bucks. Get it now.

[Anonymous No.14259572]

[Anonymous No.14259577]

>>14259548
It will be there in a few years when i am ready. I need to buy a house.

[Anonymous No.14259598]

>>14259505
>helium escape valve
>gaudy bracelet
>ugly dial
>skeleton hands
>looks like they just punched a hole through the 6 hour marker
>cuck-axial movement only able to be serviced by Omega

Nope.

[Anonymous No.14259603]

>>14259598
>he can't afford to have his watch serviced by the factory.

[Anonymous No.14259614]

>>14259598
The helium escapement valve is the only real critacism. Maybe they will remove it in a later itteration.

[Anonymous No.14259620]

should I get a seiko 5? I've never had an automatic watch before.

[Anonymous No.14259621]

>>14259614
>Maybe they will remove it in a later itteration.
It's never going anywhere. That carbuncle is basically its signature look.

[Anonymous No.14259626]

>>14259620
Yeah sure. I have one. Skx007 and orient ray/mako are also good first mechanical watches. Also citizen is a brand

[Anonymous No.14259661]

>>14259505
>>14259614

[Anonymous No.14259665]

>>14259661
Thats the older one. I could find a picture of the new black one. I saw it in a youtube video

[Anonymous No.14259673]

>>14259661
The Ray Donovan Seamaster has been discontinued for a while now.

[Anonymous No.14259696]

>>14259470
That one looks like a bad fake though

[Anonymous No.14259698]

>>14259665
>>14259673
l know it's the older one.
lm just saying it looks better than >>14259505

[Anonymous No.14259706]

>>14259665
This is the current one.
Omega Seamaster Diver 300 M Co-Axial Master Chronometer (long fucking model name) ref. 210.30.42.20.01.001

[Anonymous No.14259710]

>>14259698
I disagree
>>14259706
Yeah there she is in all her glory

[Anonymous No.14259721]

>>14259412

Anything you can't buy twice.

[Anonymous No.14259733]

Any Breitling owners?

[Anonymous No.14259755]

>>14259733
I kinda wanna buy picrel, but not sure. I really like how the watch looks in pictures, but idk if I would actually like how it looks being worn.

[Anonymous No.14259788]

>>14259755
Maybe buy a nice used one and resell it for what you paid if you don't like it?

[Anonymous No.14259791]

>>14259755
Go and try it out. It's not like Breitling dealers are hard to find.

[Anonymous No.14259800]

>>14259755
shitter

[Anonymous No.14259801]

>>14259791
I hate going to ADs. Theyre so douchey,

[Anonymous No.14259804]

>>14259733
Looks like a meat thermometer.

[Anonymous No.14259860]

Just pulled the trigger on this bad boy, what do you think?

[Anonymous No.14259869]

[Anonymous No.14259875]

Anyone have any idea what timepiece this is?

[Anonymous No.14259879]

>>14259598
BASED

[Anonymous No.14259880]

Serious question. I've always wanted an Omega Speedmaster Pro. Originally I thought I'd buy one new, and it would be 'my' watch. Then as I researched a bit, I decided after a while that I wanted a Cal. 321 from 68/69, so I'd have 'the real thing'.

Lately though, I've been leaning back to a modern, thoroughly new model. A few things bother me.

1) I already have a column wheel chronograph, so I don't care about the column wheel 321.
2) While I like the 5 ticks per second charm of the 321, I don't care that the cal. 1861 is 6 ticks.
3) If I were to buy a 321 and send it to Omega to service (since Omega no longer sells parts to Indepedent watchmakers), it would come back looking like a new one anyway, aside from (hopefully) the applied Omega symbol on the face). But I've seen horror stories about serviced vintage Omegas where they use the wrong hands to replace etc. So why would I deal with the extra hassle and cost?

Basically, here's the problem. The cost isn't the issue really...it's just that I no longer feel the 'existential' value of having a Cal. 321 Speedy instead of the modern 1861 (which was also flight certified by NASA).

I'd still get a Hesalite though...I don't like the way that the sapphire sandwich looks.

Thoughts? Am I crazy to reconsider a cal. 321?

[Anonymous No.14259884]

>>14259255
Lmao. A Rolex is not a tool watch, it's a luxury status symbol. A Casio is a real tool watch.

Nowadays not a single mechanical watch is a tool watch. Tool watches are quartz.

[Anonymous No.14259914]

>>14259860
Blue lives matter

[Anonymous No.14259916]

>>14259884
Shut up retard

[Anonymous No.14259920]

>>14259412
>>14259455
What a stupid opinion. The target demographics for the Pelagos and the modern Sub couldn't be any more different. The Pelagos is one of the most functional mechanical dive watch designs ever made, at any price, and is nothing like the modern Sub, which is purely a jewelry piece at this point.

[Anonymous No.14259949]

>>14259880

If money isn't an issue, then just wait for the 321 re-issue that Omega announced.

It'll prob cost north of $10k

[Anonymous No.14259950]

>>14259344
>Watches must all be Swiss
I refuse. $15k isn't enough to get a dress watch from Vacheron Constantin nor from ALS (who aren't Swiss either, in any case), and I'm not a huge fan of the time only dressy steel JLC Master Ultra Thin models.

Daily: Datejust 16200 blue sunburst, smooth bezel, baton indices, oyster bracelet - Up to $4,900
Dress: Grand Seiko SGBW253 - $5,700
Sport: Tudor Pelagos - $4,400

[Anonymous No.14259953]

>>14259884
truth, just call it what it is, a luxury watch, why even bother calling it something that its not to seem unpretentious when it actually is

[Anonymous No.14259958]

>>14259950
>$15k isn't enough to get a dress watch from Vacheron Constantin

Do people actually even BUY from that meme brand anymore?

If it's not a Patek it's shit.

[Anonymous No.14259960]

>>14259958
(You)

[Anonymous No.14259967]

[Anonymous No.14259976]

>>14259949
I'm convinced they're going to modify it heavily though. The promotional material says they're reverse-engineering an old one, which suggests that in addition to simply re-making it, they're going to modify it with maybe coaxial stuff, or new materials for the balance wheel etc. It's not going to be exactly the same.

Granted, that's the problem, isn't it? I used to want the 'real' moonwatch...now I don't care because the aesthetics of the modern watch are nearly identical to the 321. So, the only thing I'm weighing now is the convenience of a brand new movement which is, in terms of performance, flawless. A cal. 321 starts around 12,000, and it would be in rough condition. I could get a used but nearly new 1861 for around 4,000...and even if I had to send it into service (say, another 1200 depending) then it's still about half the price for a watch that is technically brand new. That's a serious difference for the aesthetics and 'tradition'.

[Anonymous No.14259977]

I'm bidding on that watch. At the moment it's at 20€
Is it worth it? How much should I go?

[Anonymous No.14259987]

>>14259977
Not much more than 20

[Anonymous No.14259988]

>>14259977

[Anonymous No.14259995]

>>14259869
What watch and strap amigo?

[Anonymous No.14259997]

>>14259977
Why would you pay anything for it?

[Anonymous No.14260004]

>>14259997
Because it has the moonphases. Are there better watches with moonphase for ~250€?

[Anonymous No.14260014]

>>14260004
There are no good watches under $250, and there certainly aren’t any good moonphase watches there either. You could try and find a Seiko SRX003. It’s slightly too big, quartz, and ugly, but it’s less humiliating than a Fossil.

[Anonymous No.14260028]

Is the eco-drive movement big or big meme?

[Anonymous No.14260029]

>>14259860
>"pardon me sir, what's the time what's the time?"
>"oh, it's cringe O'grimdark "

[Anonymous No.14260052]

>>14259967

Based sinner

[Anonymous No.14260055]

>>14259875

Cartier Tank

[Anonymous No.14260064]

>>14259884

Is your bitch ass comment supposed to make us think that many modern mechanical watches aren't built like fucking tanks?

[Anonymous No.14260069]

>>14260004
Better save up for this one

[Anonymous No.14260089]

>>14259875
Gold Cartier Roadster Chronograph.

[Anonymous No.14260092]

>>14260064
>tfw diver
>tfw doesn’t use the crown the way it was intended
cmon man

[Anonymous No.14260094]

>>14260092
Bezel, not crown.

[Anonymous No.14260096]

>>14260092
Is he suppose to hand wind his watch underwater? :^)

[Anonymous No.14260098]

>>14259484
rolex upped their recommended maintenance from every 7 to every 10 years

[Anonymous No.14260104]

Longines

[Anonymous No.14260109]

>>14260104
whats up hydrobro. still getting 1s/d?

[Anonymous No.14260113]

>>14260109
Nah senpai its +3 but i am coping okay

[Anonymous No.14260119]

>>14260113
>+3

xD better thank the shitter submariner

[Anonymous No.14260138]

Any basedbro know if the bezel on the blue faced ny0040 is blue or black? Having a hard time telling from the pictures.

[Anonymous No.14260149]

>>14260138
looks black to me

[Anonymous No.14260153]

>>14260064
>built like fucking tanks
>Depth: 18.0m
Not a good example there m8

[Anonymous No.14260159]

RATE MY WATCH

https://www.labisewatch.com/

LMK

[Anonymous No.14260161]

La bise..

[Anonymous No.14260174]

>>14259294
Nice size. Do you have the measurements?

[Anonymous No.14260183]

>>14260161
Dam son dat shit busted down huh, it's a good thing it has a slightly different shape than my yellow gold BUST'D DOWN ROLLY haha or I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between all my BUST DOWNS

[https://www.labisewatch.com/ No.14260185]

>>14260183
www.labisewatch.com

It is a good watch :)

[Anonymous No.14260186]

>>14260185
labia watch I like it BUST DOWN haha

[Anonymous No.14260256]

>>14260153

Do you know a lot of divers who go down to 300m?

[Anonymous No.14260257]

>>14259249
Need to clean but this was my grandfather’s watch

[Anonymous No.14260261]

>>14259884
Fuck you I have two rolexes and they’re classier than any Casio watch you could find. Rolex is the antithesis of fashion, and has remained a standard of style for decades.

[Anonymous No.14260277]

>>14260064
It's supposed to tell the truth, retard. Tool watch = quartz. Mechanical = poser.

And rolex is luxury jewellery, not a fucking "tool watch".

[Anonymous No.14260299]

>>14260277
What is a proper driver tool watch in quartz?

[Anonymous No.14260349]

>>14260277
The thing is, the ref. 1675 GMT-Master IS a tool watch. It's a vintage piece, you'd find it difficult to see any modern Rolex produced today that rough, considering a Rolex today is considered a high-end watch.

[Anonymous No.14260352]

Is the Seiko SKX007/SKX013 a good first automatic diver watch? Thinking about getting one.

[Anonymous No.14260353]

>>14260352
You're definitely not going to be diving. It's a Seiko, cheap. Just get it if you can.

[Anonymous No.14260355]

>>14260352
Yes but they're getting more expensive now since they're discontinued. Get them if you need the 200m water resistance. If not just wait a bit for the new version, now with handwinding and hacking. But the water resistance will be downgraded to 100m. It's supposed to be cheaper though.

[Anonymous No.14260359]

>>14260353
>>14260355
Yeah I was also looking at the SNZF17/SNZF15 sea urchin

Much cheaper but afraid they might not fit my 6 inch wrist. I was looking for a smaller diver similar to the SKX013

[Anonymous No.14260362]

>>14260299
Eco drive basedmaster

[Anonymous No.14260374]

>>14260359
Get the skx013 if your wrist is 6inches.

[Anonymous No.14260377]

>>14260374
That's what I'm leaning towards. Probably will have to swap out the bracelet to a super oyster though.

The strap it comes with is hideous

[Anonymous No.14260384]

>>14260377
Yeah they look better on an oyster bracelet

[Anonymous No.14260510]

>>14259344
Daily: Casio F91-W
Dress: Citizen AQ6020-53X
Weekend: Seiko SNR031

[Anonymous No.14260520]

>>14259344
>With a budget of 15,000 dollars
Literally why? You need $1500 for what you want at most.

[Anonymous No.14260522]

>>14260359
Sea urchin is nice but it's a diver-styled sports watch, not an actual diver.

[Anonymous No.14260527]

>>14260256
But it's not at 300m it's at 18m even a pilot watch could do that.

[Anonymous No.14260565]

Seiko PRESAGE SARD011 - yes or no? If not, what should I get instead as a dress watch? I just need one, since I never really wear one.

[Anonymous No.14260567]

>>14260565
Get the SARX029 instead.

[Anonymous No.14260569]

>>14260565
It has an interesting look so a tentative yes.
>that cut-off 6
ohh nasty. why?

[Anonymous No.14260570]

>>14260567
>>14260569
Actually now that I look at both more I'm bothered by the stupid seconds numbers above the roman numerals the most. Fuck.

[Anonymous No.14260575]

Anyone know where I can get a new LCD for this brick of a watch?

[Anonymous No.14260579]

>>14260575
Dude I'm pretty sure that's a bathroom scale.

[Anonymous No.14260580]

>>14260575
From another of the same watch that works.

[Anonymous No.14260590]

>>14260575
Nigga that's a dynamic scattering lcd.
They are very unreliable and haven't been made since early 70s, there are no replacements for that.

[Anonymous No.14260594]

>>14260580
The displays were all shitty. This is 70s tech. The display would turn off to save battery power. Works great as a paperweight

[Anonymous No.14260600]

>6 inch wrist

I really like the steinhart 39mm Ocean Vintage Military but the lugs are straight and 47mm end to end. Im pretty sure the lugs would reach past my wrist right? Are there any alternative to milsub watches for my size?

[Anonymous No.14260606]

>>14259347

>Selfridges

British Department Stores are not malls tbqh.

[Anonymous No.14260610]

>>14260590
Will it give me cancer or is it too late for that? Plus Seiko 5 for scale. Don't think I've ever seen a case that thick before.

[Anonymous No.14260614]

[Anonymous No.14260616]

>>14259884
>>14259953
Except that vintage GMT is from the pre-quartz era.

[Anonymous No.14260619]

>>14259920
>The Pelagos is one of the most functional mechanical dive watch designs ever made, at any price
I used to think exactly this, but ended up realizing that mechanical watches don't really make sense as "functional" watches.

Then I got an SBBN031 tuna.
Visually similar (large brushed case with no-nonsense big lume and straight all-white hands), but more interesting because of the little polished details and domed crystal.
Also a lot more functional thanks to the bomb-proof 80s quartz.

[Anonymous No.14260623]

>>14260610
They are safe.
Put the remains on sale as is, some collector will pay something for that.

[Anonymous No.14260628]

>>14260619
Just look at it.
There's just so much more going on than on a Pelagos.
Also, the Tuna has stronger lume than the Pelagos.

[Anonymous No.14260647]

>>14260600
Don't do it anon. It's too similar to be a homage. It's more like a copy. I sold mine after a while.

[Anonymous No.14260687]

>pay €500 extra for a sapphire glass on our €1900 10bar chrono, goyim

[Anonymous No.14260754]

Can't believe the weekend is almost over.

[Anonymous No.14260772]

[Anonymous No.14260774]

>>14260772
Why did they have to put "Big Crown" on the dial? You can see it's got a big crown. It's right there NEXT to the fucking dial.

[Anonymous No.14260779]

This watch is amazing, looks great and has and incredible quality for the price... I wonder why never ever mentions it on /wt/

[Anonymous No.14260781]

>>14259249
Alri

[Anonymous No.14260783]

>>14260779
Why don't you post it every day then?

[Anonymous No.14260784]

>>14260754
>spends all weekend shut in playing video games like a man child

[Anonymous No.14260786]

>>14260783
Because if I post on /wt/ it’s just to praise Longines

[Anonymous No.14260799]

>>14260784
yeah I do exactly that

[Anonymous No.14260802]

>>14260619
>I used to think exactly this, but ended up realizing that mechanical watches don't really make sense as "functional" watches.
Then why does this thread even exist? If mechanical watches are purely for decoration, why even put any movements in them?

Or better yet.. why not put quartz movements in them.

[Anonymous No.14260811]

>>14260802
>This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering, and materials engineering that are required to make a functioning timepiece.

Fine watches are interesting objects of art and prestige that happen to tell the time. I don't think it's a huge majority, even among WIS's, that actually believe a mechanical clock is in any way superior, more functional, or even entirely necessary.

[Anonymous No.14260820]

>>14260802
It is about the beauty behind the craftsmanship of a mechanical movement, materials engineering and the finishing, not something a pleb like yourself could understand anyway.

[Anonymous No.14260821]

>>14260811
I mean a quartz watch is a greater micro-engineering achievement than "hurr durr I scratched a tiny file on this tiny cog diagonally" so...

[Anonymous No.14260824]

Whats a good first real luxury watch? I was thinking about either a hydromemequest or a tudor... looking for an automatic thats going to be a little more casual with a metal band.

[Anonymous No.14260826]

Am I crazy for not liking any of the Rolex Professional Watches? Okay, Im lying a YG Daytona looks stunna but the stainless steel models just seem meh.

>inb4 2 poor
Currently rocking a new TT DJ41.

[Anonymous No.14260828]

>>14260821
>a quartz watch is a greater micro-engineering achievement
Yeah, cool pcb.

[Anonymous No.14260829]

>>14260824
>Tudor - Couldn't afford a rolex,

>Longines - Elegant and stylish, the most /fa/ watch brand

[Anonymous No.14260830]

>>14260826
>owning a Rolex = rich

Lmao

[Anonymous No.14260835]

>>14260826
You want an award? You're not special. "stunna" "2 poor", you sound like a nigger. What even is "Rolex Professional Watches"?

[Anonymous No.14260836]

>>14260828
PHULEEEEEEEEPPPUUTEEEEEEEEK

[Anonymous No.14260841]

>>14260828
Maybe they should make glass cases for all the chips? Look at the finish on that shit, it's almost Grand Seiko level of precision.

https://youtu.be/qPWvpcpS4Mw?t=166

[Anonymous No.14260843]

>>14260835
Rolex Professional models are literally how Rolex catalogs the Daytona, Submariner, GMT , ect. you cretin.

[Anonymous No.14260847]

>>14260824
>Tudor
Made by Rolex, 90% of Rolex quality, with in-house, chronometer-certified movements and a fun, emerging style that is loved by watch fans up and down the watch-buying population.

>Longines
A fairly recent meme being forced by anons who tricked themselves into buying one. A zombie brand used by Swatch to lure buyers who really want an Omega but can't afford it. Made one decent model (the Legend Diver) before they ruined it by adding a date window. Currently selling movements with plastic escapements.

[Anonymous No.14260854]

Why do so many watches have a ridiculous lug to lug distance even though they're relatively small otherwise? It looks like utter shit.

[Anonymous No.14260856]

Work in progress

[Anonymous No.14260857]

>>14260824
>Whats a good first real luxury watch?
That really depends on your style and what you're looking for.

Just don't make the mistake of settling for something. If you want a Rolex Sub, save up a little longer and get a Sub. If you buy something that's "almost as good" or something that "will tide you over until you get the Sub" it just puts you that much further from your goal and you spend your time trying to convince yourself you haven't wasted your money on a piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.14260863]

>>14260847
>>Tudor
>Made by Rolex
Why isn't it called Rolex then?

[Anonymous No.14260868]

>>14260863
Read up on their history faggot, we don't have to spoonfeed you everything

[Anonymous No.14260869]

>>14260856
What is this? Why's the right side of the bridge so scratched up?

[Anonymous No.14260872]

>>14260857
>Just don't make the mistake of settling for something. If you want a Rolex Sub, save up a little longer and get a Sub. If you buy something that's "almost as good" or something that "will tide you over until you get the Sub" it just puts you that much further from your goal and you spend your time trying to convince yourself you haven't wasted your money on a piece of shit.
In that case everyone would only ever buy 3 watches, Rolex Submariner for a diving watch, Omega Speedmaster for a chrono, and whatever the dress equivalent of those two is, I don't know, I'm not gay.

[Anonymous No.14260874]

>>14260869
Just a bridge having côtes applied. Right side doesn't have anything on it yet, that's what's "underneath" the côtes on the left side, not really underneath as the process removes all those scratches.

[Anonymous No.14260875]

>>14260874
Dude no one gives a shit.

[Anonymous No.14260880]

>>14260872
>the only chronograph anyone wants is a Speedmaster

Don't be fucking retarded. I'm doing the guy a favor and preventing him from wasting his money on a Longmemes Hydromemequest that will just put him another thousand away from what he really wants. I just used the Sub as an example.

[Anonymous No.14260883]

Cop or not? Omega Geneve 131.019
Probably will end up at 200-250 USD

[Anonymous No.14260891]

>>14260883

[Anonymous No.14260893]

>>14260880
It's the ultimate chronograph and you know it. Now seriously, what's the dress watch to complete the holy trinity?

[Anonymous No.14260894]

>>14260883 >>14260891
Send it brother. You won't get a better deal.

[Anonymous No.14260898]

>>14260883
meh. The Geneve series is not a very prestigious line. If you like it, you like it, then buy it.

Back in the old day when there were only mechanical watches and everyone actually needed one because there were no phones with clocks in them, and when Omega was an independent company that made watches for a much wider economic range of buyers, Geneve were for more blue-collar buyers, while the Constellation was for wealthier buyers.

[Anonymous No.14260902]

>>14260893
>Now seriously, what's the dress watch to complete the holy trinity?
Probably the Calatrava 5120. Then you would have the least unique collection of great watches

[Anonymous No.14260910]

>>14260893
>ultimate chronograph
Such pleb taste.

[Anonymous No.14260911]

>>14260898
Well, I'm a university student from a normal family so it might be pretentious of me to purchase an expensive watch. I currently don't own a watch but I tried on my brothers and I really liked the feeling and look of it so I figured I might buy one myself. I found this to be very nice though (but currently sitting at 550 USD with 2 days left of the auction).
https://www.tradera.com/item/190118/346683732/omega-constellation-automatic-stal-1961-bra-skick-

[Anonymous No.14260924]

>>14260619
>I used to think exactly this, but ended up realizing that mechanical watches don't really make sense as "functional" watches.
A robustly built free sprung balance movement will actually be pretty hard to damage via external shock. I'd be surprised if someone managed to damage the movement with an impact that didn't cause water ingress.

[Anonymous No.14260928]

>>14260902
The gold Cartier Tank is the ultimate poor man's idea of a rich man's watch. They don't even know what Patek is.

[Anonymous No.14260934]

>>14260872
Not all of us have the same taste in watches. I loathe the Submariner, would never buy an Omega Speedmaster Professional, and definitely don't have the same taste in dress watches as many would.

If you are interested in watches on a level beyond brand whoring, you develop specific preferences and tastes that don't look like everyone else's tastes.

[Anonymous No.14260939]

>>14260934
>I loathe the Submariner, would never buy an Omega Speedmaster Professional
Care to explain why? Im not complaining or arguing, im legitimately curious as to why you dont like them.

[Anonymous No.14260940]

>>14260893
>It's the ultimate chronograph and you know it.
It's not even the best chronograph to bear the Speedmaster name, or even to be in the moonwatch case, not that you would know why Omega's Cal. 1045 aka the Lemania 5100 would have a massive cult following among collectors.

[Anonymous No.14260954]

>>14260939
Because he's a special snowflake with too much money, he'll probably list some $50k watch or some shit.

[Anonymous No.14260957]

Who actually mass produces an integrated, column wheel, vertical clutch chrono?

[Anonymous No.14260959]

>>14260939
not him, but I share the same sentiment:
They're fucking boring. It seems like everyone and their goldfish has one or both (or considers them a "grail"...which is also a stupid term that is fucking misused all the time.)

I know the Sub is great on technical merits and historical value. The Speedmaster less so, technically, but moreso historically. But they've been the standard for so long they're part of the furniture.

[Anonymous No.14260964]

>>14260957
Seiko. the 8R48.

[Anonymous No.14260967]

>>14260959
Fair enough, thanks. As far as a chronograpy goes, is there one you prefer?

[Anonymous No.14260970]

AP, PP, or VC?

Assuming you had $30,000.

[Anonymous No.14260973]

>>14260964
Nah I have an 8r they're modular unfortunately and the 6s is integrated but lacks the vertical clutch

[Anonymous No.14260979]

>>14260970
PP easily and all day.
AP has become an ""urban"" brand and VC died in 96 when it became a Richemont property.

[Anonymous No.14260983]

>>14260967
In the same market segment as the Speedmaster, I like some of the Zenith El Primero-powered Chronomasters.

[Anonymous No.14260987]

>>14260973
Oops, you're right. I must have had the two combined in my head.

[Anonymous No.14260989]

>>14260987
If grand seiko have a non-spring drive chrono maybe that has all the features

[Anonymous No.14261001]

>>14260989
They don't. It's just spring drives AFAIK and all very sporty and aggressive-looking.

[Anonymous No.14261012]

>>14261001
I've been eyeing this one but those damn sword hands, stop that you're overdoing it.

[Anonymous No.14261019]

>>14261012
akshually...those are dauphine hands. It's been Seiko's thing forever. They're not changing that anytime soon.

[Anonymous No.14261022]

>>14261019
>Seiko’s thing
They stole it from the Europeans just like the rest of their designs.

[Anonymous No.14261026]

>>14261019
Hence why I've only been looking at them and not pulling the trigger. They're dress watch hands on a sporty watch also no lume. Maybe the look will grow on me maybe not.

[Anonymous No.14261030]

>>14260687
Just get a Damasko DC 56 if you're after a Sinn 356 with sapphire.

[Anonymous No.14261036]

>>14260802
Because Big Ben isn't quartz

[Anonymous No.14261054]

Longines ambassador Chi Ling Lin.

[Anonymous No.14261057]

[Anonymous No.14261067]

>>14261057
>>14261054
>women
>wearing watches

Top. Fucking. Kek.

[Anonymous No.14261068]

>>14260970
ALS by a mile.

>>14260979
What a stupid opinion. Richemont ownership has hardly prevented ALS from BTFOig Patek at everything.

[Anonymous No.14261070]

>>14261054
Why doesn't Swatch Group re-launch it as Rongines in order to better serve the brand's target demographic?

[Anonymous No.14261077]

This is the Chinese century. The Longines century.

[Anonymous No.14261080]

>>14261068
>ALS
>founded in 1990, claims heritage back to 1845.

it's no better when companies claim fake heritage than when people do it.

[Anonymous No.14261083]

>>14260939
Don't like the aesthetics of the Sub, especially modern maxi-case Subs. I'd rather have a Tudor Pelagos or a BB58, as they have more matte, tool like aesthetics with similarly great movements.

As for chronographs, I worship at the alter of the Lemania 5100 and consider it the greatest mechanical tool watch chronograph movement ever made, at any price, so I went for a Lemania 5100 powered Speedmaster instead.

[Anonymous No.14261088]

>Look at them Chaddington, they don't have a Longines

[Anonymous No.14261090]

>>14260957
The Seiko 8Rxx isn't a truly integrated design, but ticks all the other boxes.
Otherwise there's the Breitling B01, TAG 02, Rolex 41xx, and a few others.

[Anonymous No.14261091]

>>14261083
>a rubber dive strap on a watch with no water resistance to speak of
yikes

[Anonymous No.14261097]

>>14261022
Seiko has had an internally developed design language for their higher end lines since the 1960s. Their 'grammar or design' styling language is both unique and was developed by Seiko internally.

[Anonymous No.14261100]

>>14261080
I care about the quality of the watches, not the quality of the marketing. ALS is the best non-independent haute horlogerie watchmaker in the world.

[Anonymous No.14261101]

>>14261090
The modular nature is a fairly big drawback if you want to look at the movement. 8r is all business it's not much to look at.

[Anonymous No.14261107]

>>14261100
>ALS is better than PP, VC, or AP.

I am literally LOLing at my keyboard right now.

[Anonymous No.14261108]

>>14261054
I'd let her suck my penis, if you know what I mean

[Anonymous No.14261111]

>>14261091
>He isn't aware that tonneau cased Speedmasters have been put on straps and bracelets normally used for diving literally since their launch in the 1970s
(You)

[Anonymous No.14261120]

>>14261111
>tasteless people have always existed
That's not really a revelation, bro, or an excuse to put a dive strap on a racing chronograph.

Get yourself a nice, perforated leather racing strap.

[Anonymous No.14261126]

>>14261100
>ALS is the best non-independent haute horlogerie watchmaker in the world.
is there any proof of this or simply your opinion as an owner?

[Anonymous No.14261162]

Why don't you own a watch from Raymond Weil, one of the last family-owned independent watch brands?

[Anonymous No.14261169]

>>14260185
This is one of those situations where I genuinely can't tell if you're joking or you genuinely believe someone here might fall for that shit tier Alibaba dropshipping store selling a $4 watch for $40

[Anonymous No.14261171]

>>14261080
Do you seriously believe that or are you baiting? Here’s their factory, bombed out by Soviets during WW2.

[Anonymous No.14261181]

>>14261162
Because their designs are completely unoriginal. There's not a single watch they sell where you can't tell what they're ripping off as hard as they can short of inviting a lawsuit.

[Anonymous No.14261182]

>>14261171
Here’s something from 1926. Displayed at the Uhrenmuseum in Dresden.

[Anonymous No.14261188]

>>14261171
There was a company of the same name until WW2, but the company founded in 90 was strictly a bunch of venture capitalists trying to break into the luxury watch market.
They bought the rights to an old name and got a descendant of the Lange family on board so they could claim it's a continuation of the old company.

I bet you think Panerai actually goes back to the 1860s as well.

[Anonymous No.14261191]

>>14261080
“Fake heritage”

[Anonymous No.14261195]

>>14261162
Why get a Hydroconquest when you can get this quality piece?

[Anonymous No.14261197]

>>14261195
>Why get a Hydroconquest when you can get this quality piece?
Why get the flu when you could get food poisoning instead?

[Anonymous No.14261203]

>>14261188
This. Minus the name, they're basically another johnny-come-lately brand.

[Anonymous No.14261209]

>hurrr durr hertiaget counts!!!

then why does everyone hate VC?

[Anonymous No.14261214]

>>14261188
Source on your bs? Because Walter, rest in peace, re-opened ALS for the people of Glashütte, with the help of Günter Blümlein. Name those VCs who bought the Lange name.

[Anonymous No.14261216]

>>14261188
>>14261191
>>14261182
>>14261171
>>14261080
Instead of arguing about a brand with questionable heritage, why not look into a brand that is honest about it, and keeps the business in the family?

[Anonymous No.14261229]

>>14261191
Do you even own a Lange? Or are you actually white-knighting a profit-making enterprise?

[Anonymous No.14261235]

>>14261216
Stop forcing your shitty meme. ALS doesn’t have a questionable heritage, it’s just one troll. Glashütte then was part of East Germany and was under Russian control, everything was surrendered to the “state” during those times and rather than have Lange seized, they shut it down and only re-opened after the Berlin Wall fell. How that is questionable, I don’t know - maybe to those who are claiming imaginary venture captalists.

[Anonymous No.14261239]

>>14261235
Surrendered > “““surrendered”””. Those Russians looted everything.

[Anonymous No.14261243]

>>14261229
Telling the facts to refute made up bullshit is white knighting. Lol.

[Anonymous No.14261245]

>>14261214
I don't think he has to. He has a point. If you cease operations for 50 years, your factory is bombed and have to re-register the trademark, you're not the same company anymore.

Patek has operated continually and continuously since they opened in 1839. For any year since, you can say, show me a [year x] model and it's an instant process.
You can't show me a 1946-1993 Lange.

[Anonymous No.14261247]

>>14261243
You will never, ever own a Lange. Accept this. It will hurt at first, but you'll feel better in the long run, little buddy.

[Anonymous No.14261251]

reminder: this entirely ALS thing started because he actually, literally, unironically insisted ALS was better than PP.

[Anonymous No.14261252]

>>14261235
The current iteration of Raymond Weil has existed longer than the current iteration of ALS.

[Anonymous No.14261256]

>>14261245
The point is that imaginary venture capitalists bought the Lange name? They use the same buildings to this day. Again, the Russians would’ve seized Lange if they remained open. Germany wasn’t exactly neutral during WW2 like Switzerland.

[Anonymous No.14261259]

>>14261251
Nah, that’s a different guy.

[Anonymous No.14261262]

>>14261251
have you tried them on in real life?
i have, and it feels like both are roughly the same, except patek charges a premium for their name

[Anonymous No.14261266]

>>14261262
>and it feels like both are roughly the same,
well, that's it. you just completely nuked any sense of credibility you may or may not have ever had.

>they're both round, the size of a large coin, sorta heavy, tell the time, fit on the wrist. basically the same. yup yup.

[Anonymous No.14261273]

>>14261251
They are, because ALS doesn't cut corners on any of their watches, even down to their entry level models, while Patek profiteers off the desperately aspirational.

[Anonymous No.14261274]

>>14261251
>>14261273

[Anonymous No.14261279]

>>14261266
i literally tried an 1815 chrono and 5170p yesterday, and thats my two cents
if you dont believe it you can try them yourself and form your own opinion

[Anonymous No.14261281]

>>14261251
>>14261274

[Anonymous No.14261297]

>>14261281
The years are relevant. What exactly was happening during those times? Oh right, the Quartz crisis.

[Anonymous No.14261300]

>>14261262
>patek charges a premium for their name
Correction: Patek Philippe charges a premium for what the name represents.

And it's not like Lange gives a discount when a simple, hand-winding, time-only, 35mm Saxonia in rose gold is about 14k USD. Sure, a PP 5119R is about 19k, but an equivalent VC Patrimony is about 20k, an AP Jules Audemars Extra-thin is about 27k!

[Anonymous No.14261309]

>>14261300
I'm sure he wasn't serious when he suggested that ALS belongs among the trinity.
ALS is a supreme bargain compared to PP, AP & VC but doesn't slum down-market as far as Cartier and Breguet do.
They're in a weird in-between spot.

[Anonymous No.14261327]

Still don’t see the names of those venture capitalists who bought the Lange name...

>>14261188

[Anonymous No.14261334]

This fucking autistic brandwhoring over fucking watches.

At least half of /wt/ needs to be brutally murdered.

[Anonymous No.14261387]

>>14261334
>Inherit vintage Cartier tank from grandpa
>It's beautiful, well-preserved piece, he kept the boxes, service records and even the original receipt from Cartier Paris.
>It's got an F. Piguet movement and it's so old it doesn't say "Swiss" on the dial. It says "Paris".
>Can't wear it because it's tiny and /wt/ says it's a shitter.
Sorry, Gramps. On ebay it goes...

[Anonymous No.14261394]

>>14261387
kek. should’ve bought a phucken ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLEX gramps, nasty vicious shitter

[Anonymous No.14261396]

>>14261083
Thanks for getting back to me and. Why is it you like the 5100 so much? I'm not too familiar with Chronos

[Anonymous No.14261427]

>>14261334
The half that can't spend 5k on a watch right?

[Anonymous No.14261449]

I have a problem with a lot of straps where one hole makes the strap too tight, the next one too loose. What are some strap types that are freely adjustable? I only came up with perlon, rubber that can be cut and adjustable metal bracelets and that stretchy french parachute strap.
Also, which strap options did you find most comfy?

[Anonymous No.14261464]

>>14260898
Where does the seamaster come in? Found a seamaster 30 from 63 that looks to be in fairly good condition.