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This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a functioning timepiece.

Thread video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8cf3-I9cEc

Guides:
>Poorfag watch guide: https://imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

Should I buy this MVMT / DW / *Fashion brand* watch?
> Scroll throught this album first: https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, flieger, etc...
> Desired bracelet option, e.g. leather, nylon, metal
> Wrist size or desired watch size, e.g. 17cm / 38mm

Previous thread: >>14170673

>> No.14174058

tell me why you don't have a rolex yet /wt/

>> No.14174068
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>>14174058
I have two.

>> No.14174071

>>14174058
Won't stop midway to my goal for anything

>> No.14174089

>>14174071
your only goal should be a rolex

>> No.14174091

>>14174058
I have a few. They are extremely good watches.

>> No.14174099

>>14174068
anon i think those might be fakearoonie

>> No.14174105

>>14174099
Right one is fake as fuck
Dunno about the left, but I'm guessing it is because the right is fake

>> No.14174110

>>14174099
Based on what? I'm the original owner of the Sea Dweller and I personally know the original owner of the GMT.

>> No.14174121

>>14174110
>>14174068
Please ignore the SEETHING POORFAGGOTS

>> No.14174130
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who else here rolex comfy :)

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>>14174130
What are you watching there in the background?

>> No.14174136

>>14174130
Hamfist much?

>> No.14174141

>>14174068
>Aluminium bezel coke GMT master
One of my all time favourites

>> No.14174151
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>>14174089
Not going for a holy trinity watch?
Fucking plebs.

>> No.14174157
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>>14174132
house season 1 anon

>> No.14174160

>>14174151
The average merimuts life goal seems to have the most over hyped brand ever.
They fail to see the much higher value and quality of other brands such as your picture and only focus on their middle manager dream rolex.
They are the definition of npc.

>> No.14174167

>>14174160
What happens if I own trinity and rolex?

>> No.14174170
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>>14174157
House was good for three seasons, after that it's only worth watching for Hugh Laurie. I'm also currently watching a series with House in the title, namely The Haunting of Hill House. It's decent so far.

>> No.14174175

Is 710 the only acceptable vostok case? What about 120? They have a nice minimal dial with no date

>> No.14174176

>>14174167
Perfectly valid

>> No.14174178

>>14174151
those are gorgeous anon. i'm working towards pic related currently. medium thin auto. not sure if small second looks better or worse, what do you think?

>> No.14174180

>>14174160
There's absolutely nothing wrong with owning a Rolex, as long as it doesn't have maxi dial, hands, and lugs.

>>14174151
A. Lange & Söhne and Urban Jürgensen > Patek and Vacheron

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>>14174151
I'm not a fan of the black dial AP

>> No.14174182

>>14174180
Nothing wrong with it, but if you claim that Rolex is all you should ever have is very narrow thinking.

>> No.14174184

>>14174182
Exactly.

>> No.14174186

>>14174182
Oh yeah, that is indeed a dumb statement, but this is nothing wrong with buying a Rolex, if it is indeed your dream watch, and then stopping there.

>> No.14174189

>>14174170
nice, and nice sea dweller amigo. The Mercedes hand <3

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>>14174178
forgot pic related

>> No.14174193

>>14174189
I love the casual look of your black dial too. They really are great watches. Yours is particularly versatile as both a casual and semi-dress.

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>>14174048
Post watches fit for honorable men who believe in a worthy cause.

>> No.14174197
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>>14174196

>> No.14174200

>>14174197
>>14174196
Nice samefag

>> No.14174201

>>14174193
ah, thank you. versatility was what I wanted from it

>> No.14174203
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>>14174196

>> No.14174206
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>>14174196

>> No.14174207

>>14174203
What's with the taped dog tags?
Anyways I think a dw5600 is the modern operators choice

>> No.14174210

>>14174206
Nice open tourbillion watch, very rare to see in real life.

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>>14174196

>> No.14174214
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>>14174207
Don't know, but it's a great film.

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>>14174207
dont the real military men wear suunto cores

>> No.14174226

>>14174218
Suunto is cringe and bluepilled.
I was amused when I found out that there are people who consider it a "luxury sports/abc watch" and wear it on occasions when they want to show off.
Fucking lmao desu senpai.

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>>14174196

>> No.14174235
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> $7.4k - $19k - $19k - $29k
Yikes.

>> No.14174237

>>14174235
Right is decent but I can't get over their shitty case shapes.

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>>14174196
>>14174197
>>14174206
>>14174213
I very much prefer this vintage flieger

>> No.14174245

>>14174237
I agree about the cases. The design overall is mediocre. The gold is okay but not for $29k. They all look like $4k watches at best.

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If you cant make phone calls on your watch whats the point?

>> No.14174269

>>14174252
that's what a cellphone is for though

>> No.14174278

>>14174252
Just use your phone.

>> No.14174284

>>14174218
I was in the army.
Most just wore cheap Timex watches, a lot wore g-shocks. Officers who were rich often wore Garmins.

I don't think I saw a single Suunto in all my years

>> No.14174313

>>14174284
so:
$ - timex
$$ - g shock
$$$ - garmin
but isn't garmin a smart watch?

>> No.14174319

>>14174313
They mostly used the Garmins for the GPS

Contrary to what many think, military people don't give a shit about their watches

>> No.14174334

What watches are the most watch per dollar but are a bit more expensive than the ones in the poorfag list?
I'm looking for more options besides Grand Seiko and Nomos.

>> No.14174347

>>14174334
GS are a lot more expensive than Nomos. What's your budget?

>> No.14174369

>>14174347
second. provide a range anon

>> No.14174378

>>14174245
>The gold is okay but not for $29k
The price isn't determined by how much you like the looks, you dip.
There's a lot of manual craftsmanship that goes into the two middle ones.

>> No.14174382

>>14174378
> Price and looks don't determine if you will buy a watch
Say what now?

>> No.14174384

>>14174382
That's not even close to what I said.

>> No.14174390

>>14174347
>>14174369
$600-$8000
I'm not looking for strictly dress or a tool watch, I have those covered. I thought I wanted a Nomos ahoi neomatik at one point, but now I'm not sure. If I'm going to one day burn a bunch of money on something I don't need, I shouldn't have any doubts. I wish I could be more specific on what I wanted, but if I really knew I'd just say it.

>> No.14174391

>>14174235
the cheapest one looks the best'

>> No.14174394
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>>14174390
tudor north flag

>> No.14174402

>>14174390
The best value for money is honestly second hand or vintage. You can get a lot of watch for less cost that way.

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>>14174237
>I can't get over their shitty case shapes.
I love that case shape.
That shape first came out as a Japan-only Quartz model.

>> No.14174435

>>14174424
It was a poor case then and it's still a poor case now. There's better designs they could have used for these.

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>>14174435
k
Well I love it.

>> No.14174484
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>>14174048
Didn’t notice the new thread, posting again.

Should I pull the trigger on the 36mm Legend Diver? I have bitch wrists and think I’ll never find such a nice looking non-vintage Swiss diver.
I could get it for 1600€ or maybe a bit cheaper if I convince the dealer, which is a jewellery in another city (retail price on the longines website is 1860€)

>> No.14174494

>>14174390
>>14174394
Tudor north flag for future collectable. Best bang for buck from 600-8000 is a rolex datejust

>> No.14174504

>>14174207
Maybe it's to stop the noise of them knocking together constantly? Brando was supposedly a bit kooky to say the least during filming so it's plausible.

>> No.14174534

>>14174402
Honestly, I don't know much about what standards for watches were like back then. What makes something like an old omega seamaster better than say, a seiko turtle or a damasko ds30?

>> No.14174575

>>14174207
>>14174214
Dogs tags are made of metal and clank together when you move around. Most people have these plastic rings they put around them so they don't do that, but a lot of soldiers just tape them. It's purely so they don't make noise when they hit, for practical reasons.
Though honestly, most soldiers never wear theirs around their neck. Almost all just keep them in their jacket pockets or loop the chain around their belt loop and keep them in their back pocket.

The more you know.

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Smiths Seafire

>> No.14174617

>>14174390
>$600-$8000
Beyond Nomos and GS?
Entry level steel JLC models
Tudor BB58
Tudor Pelagos in-house
Pre-owned five digit Rolex ref

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Old omega in da house of commons right after brexit vote

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My girlfriend got me pic related, and it'll be my first automatic watch. But it's a bit too formal in black, is there a way I can still wear this in a business casual attire?

>> No.14174780

>>14174773
>is there a way I can still wear this in a business casual attire?
yes, put it on your hand and stop caring what people think

>> No.14174789

>>14174773
Black dial 3 handers you can wear with anything.

>> No.14174793

>>14174780
>>14174789

Thank you, guys.

>> No.14174841

>>14174048
>>14174130
>
Does a two tone 16233 count?

>> No.14174847

>>14174773
it's really not that formal. put it on a brown strap

>> No.14174850

>>14174841
that is the comfiest of them all, post pic?

>> No.14174901
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The Longines Hydroconquest, I'm very close to pulling the trigger on it, I know this is the quartz version but the automatic has no clear case back and the movement can't be appreciated, anybody have any opinions or thoughts on it?

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>>14174394
+1 to the north flag. first inhouse movement from Tudor iirc

explorer 1 and 2 are another good option

>> No.14174976

>>14174901
Longines is bad man don’t do it. Longines, Baume and mercier and frederique constant. They’re in this weird middle ground between entry level luxury and high end quartz. Quality is tinny and just feels off. High polish bling factor without being expensive. I think their even assembled in China. Similar to how orient has Japanese made on the rotor, but the watch is assembled in China. Save up a little more for an Oris and you will be much happier. This price bracket tends to be a shitter swamp

>> No.14174987

>>14174484
Not a fan of the internal bezel. Why not wait for baselworld at least? More and more companies are releasing smaller watches.

>> No.14174998

>>14174976
Oh wow, what about their automatics? I've been thinking of getting the blue edition of the master collection for myself as a wedding present, but I haven't got much experience with Swiss watches and don't wanna start off with something over $5k

>> No.14175012

>>14174998
Ehh, I wouldn’t for myself. It’s just the fit and finish on them. It’s not sucky. It’s not great. It’s in this grey swamp area somewhere in between. I suggest trying it on in person first, of course. If you like it then go for it, that is a better buy in my eyes than the quartz hydro. That’s showing at 2 g CAD for me. Oris has some really hefty feeling divers at like 2800 CAD. The Aquis specifically. The aquis feels as good in the hand as my Rolex. A teensy but more and the black bay is the absolute best choice for entry level Swiss divers. Black bay from Tudor is an f’n stunning piece at about 3600 CAD.

>> No.14175021

>>14174901
Friend has one, looks super flashy and dressy and glinty. Bezel is uncomfortable to turn.

>> No.14175033

>>14175012
Yeah my limit is about $3000 AUD, my fiance is getting an expensive wedding ring and I'm cheaping out on that to get a nice watch, I was just having a look at the Oris Aquis on the site of a local jeweller and they had it for $4500, which is over, but the master collection comes in at $2500 which is why I'm leaning towards that, I'll have to look at the Tudor watches, cheers

>> No.14175037

>>14175021
Has he said anything about the crown guards? I've tried it on and I didn't find them sharp, but some people apparently feel a pinch from them every now and then

>> No.14175062

>>14174901
https://www.raymond-weil.com/en/product/freelancer-2760-st1-20001/

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>>14174048
What is the best watch for someone with worryingly think wrists? Its hard to find a wath that doesn’t look huge.

>> No.14175157

Haven’t been to /wt/ after it was banned on /g/. Is the windy spammer still here? The threads used to be ultra low quality with all the spam

>> No.14175158

>>14174175
>woke up and still no answer

so no vostok owners here anymore?

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>love everything about a watch
>it's a shitter
I'm going to get one anyway.
>>14175158
I like my 060 case Vostok pretty well.

>> No.14175232

>>14174752
Real Chad pic.

>> No.14175280

>>14174575
thanks a lot, that would make sense since he was doing covert jungle operations

>> No.14175284

>>14175280
Not only that, it also makes them harder to find by enemies who want to collect the dog tag from a fallen soldier to confirm the kill.

>> No.14175294

Do you guys know how much watchmakers make in Germany? Glashütte specifically.

>> No.14175299
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>>14175157
>windy spammer

>> No.14175337

>>14175294
Did some of my own googling and here's on ALS:

>Schlechte Bezahlung, Prozesse werden unzureichend gelebt, hohe Fluktuation, geringe Anzahl an Urlaubstagen

Translated; Poor pay, processes are poorly lived, high turnover, low number of vacation days

And another from a forum post from 2017:

A few years back A. Lange & Söhne in Germany was hiring like crazy. Many of my schoolmates got a job there straight from watchmaking school. Apparently the salary wasn't amazing, but still, it's Lange & Söhne.

I wonder what is considered as poor salary. I'm seriously considering this career, it's going to be three years of school and I'll have to move too.

>> No.14175382

>>14175158
I got over them. They are nice and cheap pieces to get into the hobby and even watch modding. But you’ll eventually find them bland and tacky in the long run.

>> No.14175391

>>14175382
I have no delusions about what a Vostok is, but the tackyness is exactly why I’d like one. Already have a Poljot de Luxe as a passably decent Russian watch (but I fucked up the hairspring while opening it and now it runs +half an hour a day and I beat myself everyday for it)

>> No.14175408

>>14175391
Post pics of the Poljot

>> No.14175411
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>>14175391
Non-Amiphibian Vostoks are great too. I have one with a 2209 movement, and its the most accurate vintage russian watch I've ever seen (-3 mins/week)

>> No.14175416

>>14175408
not home currently, but I painstakingly waited for maybe a couple months until I found a non-franken at a good price, my local watch-lady said that she can try to straighten the hairspring, but it’s not guaranteed if it will get better. Maybe I’ll try to find a spare movement

>> No.14175417

>>14175391
>>14175411
Send them to a watchmaker. It costs about $5 to regulate a watch here in the third world shithole. You guys have no excuses.

>> No.14175421

>>14175417
Well I live in Eastern Europe, but it’s not just about regulating, the hairspring is fucked because I hit it while opening the watch

>> No.14175500

what is a watch enthusiasts beater watch?

>> No.14175506

>>14175500
Depending on budget level:
G-Shock
Tudor Pelagos
IWC Pilot Mark
Rolex Submariner

>> No.14175521

best quartz watch under $100?

>> No.14175523

>>14175521
fuckin literally anything that tells time

>> No.14175527

>>14175521
casio f-91w

>> No.14175538

>>14175521
dw5600 or f-91w

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>>14174998
I have the master collection in blue.
It's great. Still on 1spd accuracy and finish is flawless. Finishing on the movement is also perfect.

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>>14175541
Reverse

>> No.14175564

convince me not to buy a sarb033 for my first watch

>> No.14175579

>>14175564
they cost like 200 bucks when I was in Japan a couple years ago, now they cost like 500 and the price is inline with new Seiko pricing, if that ain’t bullshit I don’t know what is, just save up and buy a real watch, because seiko entered the “watch is decent but for that price you should save for a better watch” territory

>> No.14175582

>>14175564
Buy it if you want to look poor or like a weeb if you wear it with casual clothes. Not even japs buy Seikos apart from clocks except old fishermem in rural areas

>> No.14175589

Paying over 200-300 for the 7s26 family of movements is a scam. Just look at the price rise of the SKX, if you want to be a sucker go ahead, but Seiko is one of the worst values in watches right after Swatch group mid tier shit

>> No.14175592

>>14175294
>>14175337

I’m so fucking conflicted about seriously becoming a watchmaker.

>> No.14175596

>>14175564
You asked a year or two too late. Should get an orient star, a hamilton, or an SARX now.

>> No.14175613

>>14175596
>>14175579
sure if i could get a SARX033 for the same price i would happily take that instead
but i struggle to find an automatic under $500 at the same standard with the same versatility besides the hamilton khaki but i just can't bring myself to like that hamilton

>> No.14175616

>>14175613
The current Khaki Field handwinding with the ETA 2804 movement is now a very good value in that price segment.

>> No.14175622

>>14175564
Mid-range mechanical Seikos aren't a good value anymore like they were five years ago. They're just too expensive for what they offer, and are now almost as poor values as mid-range Swiss shitters.

Sadly we've come to the point where there are virtually zero watches in the $500 - $3500 uncanny valley price range that aren't laughably overpriced for what you get.

>> No.14175632

>>14175622
Absolutely agreed, the Seiko love is perpetuated through inertia and people who are getting into watches and are watching decade old reviews falling for the “Seikos is the king of affordable and the second coming of Christ” meme. Truth is Seiko really dropped the ball these past couple of years

>> No.14175633

Do you guys think Piaget’s 3,65mm Ultra Thin will ever be beat?

>> No.14175638

>>14175633
It already has been beat on multiple occasions

>> No.14175640

>>14175638
By who? Bvlgari?

>> No.14175641

>>14175613
Tissot might be up your alley if you don't want an orient star.

>>14175622
I'd argue that the SARX and SARW lines are still sort of worth it, but I really dislike how the SARY line looks and the prospex line still has that dumb X on it.

Also, what's wrong with Omega, Sinn, Damasko, NOMOS, and Tudor?

>> No.14175642

>>14175640
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmm1_pc6NEY
Can't get any thinner than this.

>> No.14175647

>>14175642
Doesn't count. Has to be mechanical.

>> No.14175649

>>14175647
It does count you cock sucking faggot

>> No.14175657

>>14175622
What utter garbage. 1000-3000 is where the best watches are. Beyond that you are simply paying for detailing, precious metals and prestige which is fine if that's what you want. Just don't pretend that you get a more functional automatic movement.

>> No.14175665

>>14175649
It does not.

>> No.14175678

>>14175632
It's wild how far and how fast they jacked up prices on their mid-range offerings in the last few years. Really strange to me compared to how they've generally been before that.

>>14175641
>SARX and SARW
They were a lot more worth it a couple of years ago when Seiko was doing upper mid-range models closer to $600 than $750+

>Also, what's wrong with Omega, Sinn, Damasko, NOMOS, and Tudor?
Sinn are good quality but expensive for what you get. Damasko are a very good value but ugly. Nomos aren't worth it unless you go for the DUW movement models which are more than $3,500, and Omega and Tudor are above the $3,500 mark

When I say "mid-range Swiss shitters" I mean Tissot, Longines, Baume & Mercier, TAG, and other conglomerate operated ETA movement casers who spend more per watch on marketing than manufacturing.

>> No.14175681

Do the bagelsport watches still exists? Where could I get them from?

>> No.14175684

Might as well wear a fake.

>> No.14175685

Microbrands armed with SW200 and Miyota 9015 will save us!

>> No.14175686

>>14175685
This but actually.

>> No.14175687

>>14175678
Dunno, I've seen neomatik, speedmaster, and several Tudors for about that much on the grey market. Why are those prices not allowed?

>> No.14175688

>>14175681
>>14175684
>>14175684

>> No.14175691

Why the fuck does Nomos make their lugs retardedly long?

>> No.14175692

>>14175685
The Miyota 9015 is legitimately a pretty good movement. It's every bit the equal of a standard or elabore grade 2824-2, in my mind.

>>14175687
How cheap are you seeing neomatic Nomos models, MOTFM Speedies and in-house Tudors? I hadn't thought any of them were available under about $3,500.

>> No.14175697

>>14175687
My work is image conscious so they give away Neomatiks like hot cakes to employees.

>> No.14175700

>>14175685
Too bad they all retail in US and us europoors have to pay VAT

>> No.14175702

>>14175678
>Tissot, Longines, Baume & Mercier, TAG, and other conglomerate operated ETA movement casers who spend more per watch on marketing than manufacturing

Spending more on the marketing than on the watch is the very definition of passing the 3000 bracket. Bond Omega for example, Tudor, Gaga and Beckham. Rowlecks spend billions on their image. You don't have a clue mate.

>> No.14175711

>>14175541
>>14175544
Yeah I think I've seen you post these in previous threads, one of the earlier pictures you took really caught my eye and I've been obsessed with it for a while, where and when do you wear the watch? And also what with? I'm not sure when I'd really find a suitable occasion to wear it except my wedding day, I think it might be a bit much to wear in the office I work in

>> No.14175718
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>>14174484
Preordered, I should be getting my 36mm Legend Diver by the end of April directly from Switzerland. Paid 400€ and I’ll pay the rest (1000€) when I get it. Not bad considering it retails for 2100€ on the Longines website, but Swiss watch pricing is a scam anyway

>> No.14175720

>>14175702
You have no idea what it costs to manufacture mechanical watches at the quality levels of Tudor or Rolex, and to actually do it all in Switzerland instead of outsourcing as much as possible to China.

Once you get up to the DUW Nomos, in-house Tudor, Rolex, Grand Seiko, entry level JLC, Zenith tier of watches you see much better case/dial/hand/bracelet finishing, high quality in-house movements, and some level of movement finishing. If you understand the details to look for you can see the quality for yourself.

Those mid-range shitter brands are using very cheaply externally finished watches, outsourced to the maximum legally allowable extent to China, shoving mass produced off the shelf movements into them, and then spending tons of money on marketing them to people who aren't knowledgeable enough about watches to notice their objective quality.

By the way, until about five years ago, most Omegas has abysmal external finishing and were sold mostly on marketing. They've taken some pretty big steps since then to improve their external finishing enough to not be such obvious pleb catchers.

>> No.14175721

>>14175616
Too bad the old dial with the date window is fucking ugly. The new one costs more.

>> No.14175722

>>14175711
I wear it everywhere!
The only thing it clashes with is a white long sleeve shirt. The steel bracelet makes it more versatile. Congrats on the wedding.

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>>14175722

>> No.14175732

>>14175718
Have you tried it on ? It feels cheap as fuck and the internal bezel is not tight.

>> No.14175734

>>14175720
Expain this >>14175544
finely finished 2892a2.
Finished in Switzerland
Case made in Switzerland
Movement made in Switzerland

Explain how most of the cost is marketing. Same for the Tissot Cosc watches

Then explain where most of the 10k you pay for a sub goes.

>> No.14175741

>>14175692
I saw some of them on chrono24 (new section), can't remember the other site I found.

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14175747

Only now noticed that all 3 of my automatics have black paint on the center of the hands.

>> No.14175749

>>14175734
Supply and demand

>> No.14175753

Reminder that watch brands aren’t a charity and they’re under no obligation to sell you watches for the assumed cost of materials.

>> No.14175755

>>14175747
Disgusting bargain bin collection.

>> No.14175757

>>14175755
SEETHING

>> No.14175759

>>14175753
But as consumers we are allowed to argue relative value

>> No.14175769

>>14175755
The snzf7 is a bargain indeed, the other two not so much.

>> No.14175808

>>14175747
How much did the ananta cost?

>> No.14175811

>>14175720
What watches do you own?

>> No.14175817

>>14175811
What watches do YOU own?

>> No.14175820

>>14175808
It's hard to say since there hasn't been one for sale on yahoo for over a year now. Around 2k USD? That's what I paid for a slightly damaged one.

>> No.14175831

>>14175817
I'm not the same guy. I have shitters only.

I was just wondering if you have first-hand experience with said brands to be able to compare their finishing, or have you just read from the internet.

>> No.14175847
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Hey /wt/, watch repairer here. Just had a guy from the Seiko importer in here to fill up our stock(we sell Lorus and Pulsars).

I've had a chat with him and told me Seiko is shutting down the 7S26 next year. The SKX series is also getting axed. I don't know what's going to happen to basic Seiko 5's, but he told me they're not that popular any more, they're too small and basic, while 4R36 Seiko 5 Sports models sell like blowjobs.

So I assume 7S26 gets replaced by the 4R36, and the SKX is replaced by the Tuna.

>> No.14175849

>>14175847
I've been hearing that since 2015. But yeah the SKX is getting more expensive these days which could suggest that the supply is low.

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>>14175847
>SKX series is also getting axed
I'll believe it when I see it. Ditching 7s for 4r is probably a good move.

>> No.14175858

>>14175847
So should I invest all my monies in skx’es?

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14175874

Post your quartz stunners gentlemen

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>>14175874
Always check the bracelet is long enough before you buy gents.

>> No.14175891

>>14175883
maybe you should stop being a fatass

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>>14175874

>> No.14175911

>>14175849
>>14175857
Well what are they going to do when they shut down the 7S? Make a 4R successor? Because that already exists in the form of the Turtle.

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>>14175874
>ANUS

>> No.14175914

>>14175911
the turtle is a marmite watch the skx is more universally liked.

>> No.14175917

>>14175892
>5bar
That's not impressive at all why bother putting it on the dial?

>> No.14175938

>>14175917
No idea. It would have been better with just the "V.H.P.".
Longines states that 5bar is enough for swimming, but I haven't tested it myself.

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>>14175720
>You have no idea what it costs to manufacture mechanical watches at the quality levels of Tudor or Rolex

He hasn't but neither have you.
Rolex would devalue it's image if you knew how much it exactly costs to produce.
There are very few products where automated production and manual assembly of the product add the biggest part to a products cost.

Every company wants to cut production costs. Rolex would be stupid to sell you a watch where they only gain 2K$ Profit.
I know that they have to pay for employees and shops etc. but the value of a modern rolex is overinflated, from rolex but also from speculations with their watches. It's like a bubble and rolex does best at profiting from it.

>> No.14175946

>>14175938
How's the bracelet? I didn't know about VHP and just read about them on google. Seems very impressive.

>> No.14175967

>>14175946
The watch came with 5 full-links and 2 half-links. Finding good fit was pretty easy despite the lack of microadjustment (thanks to those half-links).
Some owners do argue that the butterfly clasp makes it uncomfortable on the wrist, but I haven't had any problems.

>> No.14175974

>>14175734
>Expain this
Sure.

1) The movement is based on an ETA 2892-A2, however to reduce the cost of manufacturing the escapement has been replaced with the lower beat rate, laser cut escapement of the Powermatic 80 COSC variants, which require much less labor to assemble, adjust and regulate.

2) The movement finishing is entirely automated using CNC machines and is not at all comparable to the movement finishing you get from a skilled laborer using the older style of machines used to do perlage and the like.

3) The Swatch Group manufactures as much of their watches as possible in China, taking advantage of the fact that made in Switzerland designation requires only 60% of the value added to be created in Switzerland, but since a different Swatch Group entity makes the movements, the movements themselves can be made 60% in Switzerland, but when purchased by Longines count entirely toward's Longines' 60% Swiss value added

4) The case, dial batons, and hands are all finished by being entirely buffed on a high speed buffing wheel with a polishing compound applied, showign that tell tell 'lozenged' look. This is a fast, low skill method of external finishing which lowers the manufacturing costs and is easy to outsource.

5) Notwithstanding all these cost savings in manufacturing, Longines sells this watch for $1,800 USD, which is an astronomical markup on a watch that costs them trivially more than a Tissot to make, so either they are spending it on marketing, or they are just putting it in their jeans, but either way the watch is a horrible value at its price-point.

I'll tackle why Rolex/Tudor watches cost quite a bit more to manufacture later, I'm tired from typing all this out.

>> No.14176005

>>14175847
I don't understand why we are not seeing a skx007/013 successor with the nh35

I can't remember the last time we even had a sub 40mm diver out of seiko

>> No.14176010

>>14176005
It will be some time before they reissue the skx. When was the last turtle style seiko produced?

>> No.14176012

>>14175974
Part of that mark up ($500) is your Dogshit American economy. This watch cost me an equivalent of $1300 in the UK from an authorised dealer brand new. The hands and indexes are rhodium plated and polished to a degree where no polishing lines are visible anywhere even under a loupe. I'm sure it is automated but it produces a top end finish. You also forget about that fact that quality alligator straps have a fairly high market price. I would guess they make about 60% margin when selling to dealers. I would say the percentage profit rolex make per sub is a fair bit higher.

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>>14175974
This dude gets it.
Especially point 3 is interesting. Also read a bit about the "swiss made" regulations. It's all true, 60%. And companies are very clever about using it to their advantage.

Also $1,800 for that? >>14175726
Jesus christ, that's a robbery. It looks like pure trash with those thin, glued-on shit indices, it's oversized case and that stupid ring to cover some space on this, huge, empty dial.
Should have gone for the flagship heritage. Some models cost about €1,400 and look miles better.

>> No.14176023

>>14176012
"rhodium plated" doesn't mean shit when fountain pens that have "rhodium" are like $70

>> No.14176036

>>14176022
It was 1300. The flagship didn't have an open caseback, so passed on it.
Nobody believes a 10k rolex that costs 800 to make is better value.
>>14176023
I was making the point that they are not poorly polished as suggested

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>>14175874

>> No.14176046

>>14175974
Hmmm swatch group profit margins 11%

I wonder what rolex declared profit margins were..........

Idiot

>> No.14176049

>>14176042
How much did you get it for? It's $400 on ebay now. Is that a good deal?

>> No.14176073

>>14175685
>>14175686
>>14175692
>>14175700
Why don't you name some?

>> No.14176090

>>14175943
>He hasn't but neither have you.
Actually, I have a reasonably decent idea based on an understanding of what's involved in mass manufacturing mechanical objects to the quality level that Rolex/Tudor do, and that they do all their manufacturing in Switzerland.

>>14176036
>a 10k rolex that costs 800 to make is better value.
A Rolex costs quite a bit more than 800 to make. They do all of their manufacturing in Switzerland and in order to be able to automate large volume production of their watches and movements to the quality standards they are made to, they have to invest a lot of money into R&D and making their own custom capital equipment. Your average watch enthusiast doesn't think about what it costs to do that R&D, to make that capital equipment, and to QC that volume of watches to the standards they do, but it isn't cheap.

Now, that said, Rolex specifically are marked up a lot due to the market demand for them. Most of the price difference between a Tudor BB58 and a Rolex Sub reflects that market demand. On the other hand, none of the watchmakers out there are selling watches manufactured to a good quality standard, with high-quality in-house designed and manufactured movements, for less than about $3,200. That's as true of Damasko as of Nomos as of Grand Seiko as of Tudor, and in that $3,000 - $3,500 price bracket, those brands all offer very well made watches that don't feature the plethora of blatant corner cutting that you find on the vast majority of watches in that $500 - $3,000 uncanny valley.

>>14176046
(You)

>> No.14176096

>>14176049
I got it for the equivalent of $335 USD because my Seiko dealer likes me and cuts me a bit of a better deal than normal. He has them for the equivalent of $355 USD normally.

>> No.14176113

>>14176096
Thanks. I'll keep looking around then.

>> No.14176169

>>14175891
Not him, but I remember one of them being sold with so few links the clasp itself wouldn't even close. That's not something that having slim wrists will solve.

>> No.14176200

>>14176090
>Now, that said, Rolex specifically are marked up a lot due to the market demand for them. Most of the price difference between a Tudor BB58 and a Rolex Sub reflects that market demand

You just proved my point. With Longines etc you are just paying for the watch plus margin. Rolex you pay for watch plus margin plus prestige. The prestige element is over 50% of the sales price.

Hardly seems justified to rag on the $1300 longines which has no visual imperfections (whether you like the design being subjective) as being inherently poor value. Particularly with it deviating less than 1spd.

>> No.14176244

>>14176200
You're singling out Rolex as compared to all the other makers of high grade series produced mechanical watches in order to deliberately miss the point. Rolex/Tudor/Zenith/Entry level JLC/Grand Seiko/in-house Damasko don't cut corners in the manufacturing of their watches the way mid-range Swiss conglomerate brands do, and barring Rolex, their pricing doesn't reflect a vast gulf between the level of manufacturing quality you're getting and the price you're paying.

Mid range brands like Longines clearly and noticeably cut corners in manufacturing their watches and offer very little objective quality improvement over $500 watches, yet are priced at 3x to 5x that price. Every dollar spent on marketing these watches is a dollar that should have been spent on improving their manufacturing quality instead.

Please understand that while you consider the watch to not have visual imperfections, to those of us who have an eye for surface finishing, the rounded off, all mirror polished case, hands, and indices look cheap because they *are* very cheap to make. Contrasting finishes, applied with minimal surface distortion and sharp edged transitions between them, cost far more to apply than just hitting everything with a high speed buffing wheel does.

That 1spd rating comes from the laser cut balance wheel from the Power Matic 80 COSC variant, and you should be aware that it has a very limited adjustability for timing and has a much higher risk of having its timing rate drift outside a range than can be corrected by regulation, and of needing to be replaced at servicing, than the conventional escapement on a 2892-A2 would.

>> No.14176255

>>14176022
Sometimes I do believe that longines is purposely sabotaging themselves in the design department because they don't want to outsell omega.

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>>14175874

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>>14175874

>> No.14176279

>>14174130
I'd bet you'd be butt hurt for a long time if someone jacked you or you lost that thing wouldn't you LOL! I wouldn't go showing that around to much same with anything real gold as an oz is well above a G right now. Stones likewise are like honey to thief. Sucks but those are the lessons of life U know.

>> No.14176295

ESL here, what's the name for indices like these
>>14176266
>>14175892
What are they called? Rectangular indices? Elongated? I know the round ones are called circular indices.

>> No.14176298

>>14176295
>ESL here, what's the name for indices like these
Batons

>> No.14176307
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What do you think of this watch?

>> No.14176325

>>14176307
it's inoffensive

>> No.14176327

>>14176244
Wait, mine has the L619.888.2 which is a non COSC movement. It is just the standard A2. They can be regulated just fine if needed. Its the bargain bucket tissot that has the issues. Show me a watch with a fully decorated movement, with a 2892A2 or better, with an alligator strap, sapphire crystal front and back for less than $1300. If you're correct then there should be loads right?

>> No.14176339
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>>14175874

>> No.14176344
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>>14176307
It's a shitty homage to this.

>> No.14176351

>>14176344
Would be perfect if they moved the date window a bit closer to the edge so it won't cut the inner circle on the dial.

>> No.14176364

>>14176255
Digits of truth.

It's not unheard of in the carworld, with the VAG to make cheaper models less attractive on purpose so that they don't water down their more expensive stuff. I bet things like this are also a thing in the watch world.

>> No.14176366

>>14175726
This is one of the most nondescript watch I've ever seen.

>> No.14176377

>>14176366
Oh no, somebody on the Internet doesn't like my watch.

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>>14176344
which is a shitty homage to this

>> No.14176391

What's the best Casio?

>> No.14176398

>>14176377
Apart from the movement, why do you like the watch? There is nothing interesting about the dial. It's like it tries to be dressy but the chapter ring ruins the whole look. Not trying to be a dick I genuinely want to understand. In the end, it's not my money so I don't feel anything.

>> No.14176406

>>14176327
You're fortunate you got the older version which still used the proper 2892-A2 elabore. That watch doesn't use that movement anymore.

That movement is also not "fully decorated" its machine decorated at a basic level.

Hamilton sells a number of 2892-A2 and 2895-A2 equipped watches on bracelets for under $600 with sapphire front and back and machine decorated movements.

>> No.14176412

>>14176398
The whole package is just nice. The simple dial, the way the leather compliments the blue sunburst dial (much more colour when not photographed on my crap cam) and the way the highly polished hands and indexes let me see the time from the dimmest light. I spent a long time looking at watches before my wife bought it.

>> No.14176423
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14176423

I didn't go inside because I'm a pleb and felt like the security guard wouldn't let me in anyways (dressed ultra casual, with a hoodie and shitty trainers). But I learned that there is a Patek Philippe store in my city. I had a look in the display windows and the watches just ooze beauty. Think the calatrava is my favorite in real life, but the world time is incredible.

Also looked around Omega, Rolex, IWC, Cariter, Hublot, Panerai display windows on a separate street. In real life this [pic related] Panerai was probably my favorite out of the whole lot. In pictures I really disliked Panerai, but in real life they do look beautiful and really stand out among all the other brands. Also regarding Rolex, ArchieLuxury is completely right, saw tons of DateJust in many different combinations but didn't see any sports watches. One of the preowned stores nearby had a gold Daytona which looked pretty incredible.

All in all today was a comfy horology day. Wish I had the look and the guts to go inside the stores. Maybe one day I'll go into Omega (most obtainable for me).

>> No.14176426

Guys, stupid question, but is there ever a watch that you cannot change the band? I want to get a Nixon but I'm reading that the band can't be changed?

>> No.14176431
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>>14176398
What is looks more like in better light

>> No.14176437

>>14176426
Watches with integrated bracelets like the Audemars Piguet Royal Oak are not interchangable.

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>>14176426
>I want to get a Nixon
First mistake.

>> No.14176444

>>14176406
What Hamiltons are you looking at out of interest?

>> No.14176449

>>14176366
What's wrong with nondescript?

Real talk: Watches are just socially-acceptable bracelets for men. If you want to make it complicated and add a bunch of useless shit to overcrowd the dial to be tacticool, by all means, have at it.

>> No.14176475

Best nautilus homages? Quartz accepted.

>> No.14176476

Has anyone been able to pull off a rose gold casual day watch? The metal looks really good on my skin, but I'm afraid if I get a rose gold with a lighter dial it would just look gay

>> No.14176480

>>14176476
Why would that be hard? Rose gold and brown leather go with anything.

>> No.14176485

>>14176480
Yeah I guess you're right. I was just worried a rose gold watch with a white dial would look gay as fuck

>> No.14176503

>>14176444
The Intramatic is available on a bracelet below $600, Jazzmaster slim autos are around that price too. Maestoro small seconds are available as low as $625, including on croc.

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>>14175172
p u r e c l a s s

>> No.14176544

>>14176537
Is that the fat guy's brand or something?

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>>14176503
It's not exactly the same level of finishing. Plus I am seeing these at $7-800.

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>>14176431
>better light

Broo, check out my pic, it's even better light than the one you posted, now that makes that fucker really shine.

>> No.14176581

>>14176537
Unironically like the middle one because triangles'n circles'n shieeet. Also no date and domed glass and seems of a small diameter. But fuck tristano. Also the price is probably way too high for what it is.

>> No.14176585

>>14176572
Where can I buy it????????

>> No.14176597

>>14176581
Ok, just checked, it's 399, with a seiko movt. Can't be mad, the looks are exactly my cup of tea. I'd probably get it if i wanted it a bit more.

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>>14176544
why are you asking so many questions?

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>>14175874

>> No.14176610

>>14176537
It's too thicc. I like the Falcon but at like 14mm, including the crystal, it's just too much. If they had flat sapphire, bringing it down to 12mm, I would buy the white dial Falcon today.

>> No.14176613

Since when is the Baby Monster 43mm?
I thought they were like 38mm or something. I just had a look at some online and they're all saying they're 43mm

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>>14176585
Only at longines boutiques. Here's one from the side, just look at that, fuckin THICCC AF!

>> No.14176637

>>14176616
Ah, jlc moon phase, excellent choice

>> No.14176640

>>14176382
None of them are homages

>> No.14176680
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new strap
blood for the blood god edition

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>>14176680
Imagine just casually coming from behind that bend to see OP doing this.

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>>14176042
Your arm looks like a pig's feet lmao. Lose some fucking weight you fatass. You look like you're going to die of diabetes soon. The fucking state of you Seiko weebs.

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>>14176042
>>14176776

>> No.14176830

>>14176776
Newfag

>> No.14176845

>>14176830
Doesn't matter, still a fatass.

>> No.14176858

>>14176279
dont worry anon I live in an all white 0 crime rate suburb

>> No.14176873

>>14176572
>minute ticks
>second hand
Way too gaudy, do you think you're Kanye or something?

>> No.14176874

>>14176616
Thin watches best watches. Unless you want to look like a child because your sleeve is constantly snagging on your watch.

Nvm this is /fa/ you probably just wear graphic tees everywhere

>> No.14176886

Reminder that being a Submariner fanboy is just as reddit as being a Speedmaster fanboy

>> No.14176893

>>14176886
Agreed. Or any fanboy in general. Not being able to handle criticism towards some random product you like is weak shit.

>> No.14176924
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Reminder not to buy fucking SHITTERS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmIY4VVtpuw

>> No.14176932

>>14175158
Sure, I've got one, it's green.

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not the extent on my collection, but these four seem to be getting all the wrist time. even the much higher end pieces have been sitting in the watch box for a few months now.

>> No.14176960

NEW

>>14176957
>>14176957
>>14176957

>> No.14176966

>>14176960
Fuck off, retard.

>> No.14176968

>>14176960
Kill yourself

>> No.14176987

>>14176924
Archie's being rather misleading in this video, since what he actually believes is that if you aren't prepared to drop $3k+ on a Speedmaster MOTFM or Tudor BB58 or the like when you are first getting into collecting watches, then you should fuck off and stick to casios.

This video makes it sound like he thinks there is some semi-affordable alternative for newbie collectors, while in reality he doesn't believe that there is since he doesn't believe that any watch that doesn't get you excellent resale value and perceived social status associated with its brand is worth owning in the first place.

>> No.14176996

>>14176987

He also shows of a Zenith.

Zenith watches, while being based af, are notorious for losing value.

>> No.14177002

>>14176996
Oh, I agree he's not even consistent on his own principles. The reality is that the resale value thing is just a crutch for his real belief that watches are desirable primarily based on the perceived social status they grant you for wearing them. In truth he believes watches below the MOTFM are worthless because actual watch snobs give cheaper brands that that zero credit whatsoever and so they don't confer the social status he craves.

>> No.14177006

>>14176934
Nice. Rate this potential collection:

OP 36 (every day watch / versatility)
JLC Reverso (dress)
G Shock (sport)
SNK809 (beater)

>> No.14177027

>>14176423
>Also regarding Rolex, ArchieLuxury is completely right
About what actually? I don't watcj his videos. I went into an AD wearing shorts and sandals lel. They didn't have any sport/tool watches either, though they did have a Day-Date

>> No.14177034

>>14177006
Good. very good. all bases covered.
I sold my rolex sub after getting the pelagos, but I want the new Explorer I with lumed arabic indices. I have a hard time spending real money on dress watches since I just don't wear them that often. Had a nice cartier tank but sold it a while back. I guess I prefer to fly under the radar even when in a formal setting.

>> No.14177206

Doing more research into Glashütte watch companies and damn, the employee reviews are scathing and it's not just in Glashütte, it's the entire German watch industry. Plenty of complaints about salary, management issues, high turnovers, and geographic location. Only praises are about the nice work environment.

>> No.14177212

>>14177206
Watchmakers earn 1800€ gross and that's AFTER several promotions or so and not starting pay.

>> No.14177216

>>14176924
He looks like he wants to sell me a state-of-the-art brand new, pre-owned, Hyundai Sonata.

>> No.14177219

>>14177212
Here's from an excerpt from a Glashütte Original watchmaker:

World-famous actors, prominent figures and sheiks come regularly to visit to see the handcraftmanship. They buy their watches in the 6-digit range and I have to buy my clothes at Kick / NKD.

Pro

Once in the summer at 40C, the ice cream man actually cames by and there is anyone who would have thought it would be a free small soft ice cream. Top!

Cons

The simple production worker is worthless there. Employees who work in the office or who are in charge of marketing pull a kilometer long perfume track behind them and do not even get a "hello, or good day" . These people are just something better, but of course they are for the " Image "in charge. It really is a disaster how degrading it is. Of course, every office employee has a company car.

>> No.14177222

>>14177219
More about GO:

>Marketing builds an image for the outside world, but this has no foundation within the company.
I feel bad for the watchmakers, I don't understand how they can't pay watchmakers enough when these Glashütte watches are marked up and sold for high figures.

>> No.14177230

>>14177222
From A. Lange & Söhne to Glashütte Original, to Nomos to Junghans to Sinn. All have plenty of complaints about management and very low wages. A sad, sad state.

>> No.14177244

>>14177230
From a 1,61 employee review of Lange:

I do not think it's a good thing that the famous name of the brand is unfortunately not reflected in how it deals with employees.

From a 2,26 review:

Lange Uhren has nothing in common with a family business anymore. The climate is hardly pleasant, especially in non-producing areas.

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>>14176391

>> No.14177264

So is there any place where watchmakers aren't treated like dirt?

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>>14176391
gw-5000
>>14177257
disgusting

>> No.14177271

>>14177264
I don't know man, it's depressing to read this as a an aspiring watchmaker. I'm targetting Glashütte as I don't want to learn French to work in Geneva. I'm already deep into learning German. I'll see if I can find Swiss reviews of Swiss watch companies.

>> No.14177275

Are there neat vintage dive watches besides seamasters?

>> No.14177293

>>14177271
Compared to Patek reviews it's quite difference. Plenty of praises, I don't see any complaints about salary I don't know if that's suspicious or not.

>> No.14177308

>>14177212
Imagine earning 21k gross a year as a watchmaker for a top Glashütte brand... Watchmakers are made to be the superstars of marketing campaigns and they're not even compensated enough.

Put yourself in a watchmaker's shoes. You're hyped up in these savoir-faire videos and yet you earn 1800€ gross a month. Assuming you're working a 40-hour work week, you're making 11,25€ per hour. 11,25€! All that precision work and top finishing and you're paid 11,25€. What the fuck. I can see why complaints are so high about Glashütte brands.

>> No.14177330

>>14177002
>>14176987
Archie’s whole psychology is that he relies on the watches he buys to provide him with some form of status and respect due to the fact that in his current state there is little or no way he’s going to get it any other way. Without his Rolexes he literally has nothing to show for his life.

That’s partly the reason he hates on TGV so much. TGV get all the subs and cred yet parades around in shitters, which frustrates the hell out of Archie. Without his luxury watches TGV would still have his house, marriage and job. Archie would just be a thrice divorced unemployed slop living in a shack with carpet beetles.

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I hate living in Australia

>> No.14177385

>>14177361
Are you that poor you can’t afford a $39 markup?

>> No.14177398

>>14177385
>poor =! not wanting to overpay

A ten dollar bottle of coke may be a drop in the ocean but I’m certainly not going to pay that much for one.

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Opinions on Certina? Considering buying a thermo-compensated model.

>> No.14177484

>>14177415
Good brand

>> No.14177499

>>14177361
15 burgerbuckaros over here

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>>14177308
I can't believe someone who makes this, makes 11,25€ an hour. It's frankly appalling.

>> No.14177549

>>14177530
Maybe the most junior watch maker does. But certainly not people who do more complex parts and especially the select people who do the engraving - they are only something like 6 people in all of ALS who do the balance cocks.,

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>>14175541
>finish is flawless. Finishing on the movement is also perfect.

>> No.14177578

>>14177385
>not paying $90 for a $15 watch
yea guess I'm stupid like that

>> No.14177618

>>14174048
New thread:

>>14177616
>>14177616
>>14177616

>> No.14177624

>>14177578
t.b.h you're stupid for wanting to buy that watch at any price.

>> No.14177628

>>14177618
>still making threads early
How hard is it to not fuck up?

>> No.14177679

>>14177549
Clearly the 6 identifiable engravers wouldn't be leaving scathing reviews on ALS. It's the watchmakers. A GO watchmaker just said he makes 2000€ gross, that's AFTER years of being with GO and several increases.

Here's the excerpt:

"One of the biggest criticisms. If you have learned the profession (even in the company), which one exercises in the company is the average (one speaks to each other about it) at about 2000 euros gross. But that is not the starting salary but after several increases. (So arranged in the contract of employment) The annual increase that it gave last year is enough, if anything, to even out inflation."

>> No.14177693

>>14177628
It's tudorfag, ignore him.

>> No.14177793

>>14176757
Imagine spending the time to draw all of that. Took you 38 minutes to reply lmao.

>> No.14177810

>>14177361
Wtf why is so expensive over there? Tax?

>> No.14177814

>>14177361
yall getting raped over there

>> No.14177817

New thread:

>>14177808
>>14177808
>>14177808

Fuck Tudorfag and his troll threads.

>> No.14177886 [DELETED] 

GO BACK TO R3DDIT WATCH FAGS

>> No.14177902

>>14174218
>>14176266
>>14176609
stop wearing watches that are too big for you

>> No.14177937

>>14177817
Fuck you and your thread splitting.
You're the third faggot itt to link to a new thread.

>> No.14177940

>>14177937
Those two threads were made by tudorfag way too early at 250 and 280 posts.

>> No.14177942

>>14177940
>and 280 posts.
295

>> No.14177945

>>14177940
You are pushing this too hard, it's coming more and more obvious that your goal is just to destroy this general.
For the last time, I am not tudorfag.

Also, this >>14177942

>> No.14178036

>>14176609
>>14177902
I have tiny wrists, I can't help if 38mm is still big on me

>> No.14178039

>>14178036
You need wrist implants.

>> No.14178041

>>14178039
w2c

>> No.14178049

>>14178041
jomashop.com, they make the best croc-grain calf but proper leather wrist implants.

>> No.14178402

>>14177793
>implying that i was only shitposting in one thread at the time

Oh nononoo.