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Why is goth fashion still sort of a thing, especially in fiction, when all other counterculture fashions like hippie, punk, and beatnik all died painful deaths?

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Dhat Is Not Dead Which Can Eternal Lie

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>>13283977
Goth fashion is as much of a thing as punk fashion.
>still worn by a small subculture
>totally irrelevant to actual fashion
>usually worn by fatties and rejects unless they're an 'alt model'

>> No.13284285

>all other counterculture fashions like hippie, punk, and beatnik all died painful deaths

No they didnt, they fell out of mainstream after a while but were emulated years later.

>> No.13284474

>>13283977
metal punk is alive

>> No.13284477

>>13284474
thanks to the rappers

>> No.13284562

Because it's inclusive. Unlike the ones you mentioned, goth won't demand ideological commitments or a dietary restriction.

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I don't often hear of beatnik fashion.

Post beatnik inspo.

>> No.13285419

>>13283977
for every BPD girl killing themself, another will grow

>> No.13286537

>>13284477
fuck rappers

>> No.13286542

>>13283977
I am not Goth, but I think Goth is cool. Goth girls can be really cute and I typically enjoy gothic literature, cartoons, and movies. It's one of those things I hope survives and grows despite not being a part of it myself.

>> No.13286546

>>13284562
>goth won't demand ideological commitments or a dietary restriction.

If you are fat you are not a real goth and you bring down the standing of actual goths.

>> No.13288191

>>13284474
metal punk was a thing like 10 years ago lol

>> No.13288775

>>13284562
>goth won't demand ideological commitments or a dietary restriction.
Except male goths are based around tall, gangly guys and female goths are based around Elvira and pale, sickly witches.

>> No.13289214

>>13283977

its become a fetish simple as

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>>13283977
is bape goth /fa/?

>> No.13290211

>>13290145
"no"

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I fucking hate what normie culture has formed "goth" into, like OPs stupid ass image.

People always forget about the REAL goths, post-punkers and new romantics from the late 70s into the 80s. I guess it makes sense, because they were obscure as ever, but they were the "true" testament to what "goths" really were. A darker, more romanticized and poetic version of the punk movement going on at the time. Nowadays, Stacy can put on black lipstick and a black shirt and say she's "goth", and these kids that think steampunk = goth just make me want to vomit. I was never there for the original goth movement of the 80s, but goddamn did they all look so good and have great music and art. This book is a great showcase of what it was like if anyone actually cares.

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>>13290256

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>>13290256
>>13290261
virgin robert vs Chad Bowie

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>>13290256
Thanks for this anon, you're 100% right. I am a goth and it's annoying to see the types of girls who would make fun of me in highschool now calling themselves goth for wearing dark lipstick and whatever edgy clothing is currently popular. There's still people who are into actual goth and post-punk music, they're just harder to find. But I will always protest against fucking normies trying to call anything and everything goth when they wouldn't know goth if Siouxsie bit them.

>> No.13292387

>>13283977
I thought it was dying now but nice to know it exists still, maybe cause it's the one people pick on and generalize everything else as mostly

>> No.13292594

I though beatniks just slowly integrated into society.

>> No.13292875

>>13290297
is it just me or is that guy sitting to the left of Robert look kinda like a thinner Chrischan

>> No.13293400

It's sexy and edgy.

>> No.13293409

> tfw I'm not a goth in dreas or identity, I just fucking love Siouxsie, Fields of the Nephilim, and Sisters of Mercy

>> No.13293448

>>13283977
>hippie, punk, and beatnik
all still alive and incorporated into other aesthetics by diffusion

>> No.13293453

>>13290890
you sound so childish, i really hope you arent out of highschool

>> No.13293458

>>13284001
punk slampigs are god tier on the slampig ladder

>> No.13293460

>>13283977
Same reason that greaser fashion is still iconic, despite the subculture being long dead.
Because goth fashion actually looked cool, while hippie/punk/grunge/beatnik subculture fashion mostly ranged from terrible to unremarkable.

>> No.13294104

>>13292875

lmao i think thats drummer from Sunny Day Real Esate

>> No.13294450

>>13283977
All of these subcultures are still present in the fashion world, specially punk

>> No.13294489

>>13284562
except you can't be a proper goth and be fat. fatness is an illness that should be eradicated

>> No.13294503

>>13283977
Counter culture was killed by normies and corporate cucks and since has just become culture

>> No.13294522

Darkness never grows out of fashion. You'll always have 'dark' themes in movies, books, etc. that will 'revive' or bring back into the spotlight goth fashion. I mean, every fucking autumn around Halloween goth leaks back into mainstream.

>> No.13294730

>>13294503
Wrong, the internet killed counter cultures

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>>13283977
Being /fa/shy is the true counterculture now

>> No.13294879

>>13290297
i love them both

>> No.13294986

>>13286546
cool so theyre only excluding people that should be excluded

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>>13290256
>>13290890
why do you care so much

>> No.13295276

>>13288775
If you go outside those molds it becomes gross and hilarious quite fast.

>> No.13295333

>>13283977

because the sad little girlies make my penis so happy

>> No.13295365

>>13294820
>being so cuck'd you need a strong leader
lmao

>> No.13295374

>>13290145
No

>> No.13295377

>>13295365
Humans are pack animals. The strong exist in the hierarchy of the pack. The males outside of that hierarchy have been excluded because they are weak.
>that's animals!

Who do you think would win in a fight between a Marine grunt, who gets shouted at and follows orders all day vs the guy that posts on /fa/ about how it's okay to wear rings, black nail polish etc. and has no father figure in his life?

>> No.13295430

>>13292594
Honestly hipsters are the new beatniks

>> No.13295453

>>13295377
>le wolf pack meme
You realize that theory has been debunked years ago?

>> No.13295458

>>13295377
wolf pack is a debunked theory retard.
also you do realize you're saying that, according to your own theory, you're the beta in the pack? lmao. so ironic to me that fascists like to throw around the term "cuck" all the time but literally can't function without having someone tell them what to do

>> No.13295536

>>13295377
Counterpoint: soft flabby trendies chugging soy lattes with their flabby business school friends vs. jacked loner autist who spends all his time on lifting and martial arts.

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>>13295377
>Humans are pack animals. The strong exist in the hierarchy of the pack. The males outside of that hierarchy have been excluded because they are weak.
lmao imagine unironically believing this jesus fucking christ

>> No.13296193

>>13290256
Get off the computer old man

>> No.13296196

I love The Cure

>> No.13296746

>>13290297
Smith made better music friend, also this is a fantastic image

>> No.13296757

>>13296006
Dude this shit is fucking widespread right now, I'm pretty sure it's the evolution of the edgy atheist archetype, as they get older and realize atheism isn't a cover-up for being awful they shove and funnel all their insecurities and misguided notions into a retarded frankenstein ideology and "recognize the judeo-christian origins of western civilication at last. OTSS!" It's real gay

>> No.13296855

>>13290256
The goths of today are people like Varg, unironically waiting for the collapse and writing poetry about it. They don't have the same hair, politics or music but the themes and authenticity is the same, they all romanticised a collapse

>> No.13296857

>>13296006
t.betamale

>> No.13296861

>>13295377
>Who do you think would win in a fight between a Marine grunt, who gets shouted at and follows orders all day vs the guy that posts on /fa/
How many fights do you get into in your day to day life what the hell

>> No.13297201

>>13296757
Wtf. Do atheists in burgerland actually act this way? I’ve never run into anyone with that view here in Europe.

>> No.13297289

>>13290297
>implying bowie made better music that robert fucking smith

>> No.13297293

>>13295276
which is why lard ass goth men wearing trenchcoats look fucking stupid and lard ass goth women look like a last resort.

>> No.13298167

>>13297289
Shit taste confirmed

>> No.13298417

>>13286546
Theoretically this might be true, but most of the goths I've known have been fat, especially the women

>> No.13298480

>>13290256
That guy is faggier than Milo

>> No.13298785

>>13290256
Same goes for emo

>> No.13298842

>>13295250
I just think their ideals, lifestyle and art were truly magnificent, especially with what they had.

>> No.13298852

It's fundamental. Gear,
Urban Mobility. With
accents.

>> No.13299259

I fucking hate what normie culture has formed "goth" into, like OPs stupid ass image.

People always forget about the REAL goths, post-Franks and new Germanics from the late 000s into the 500s. I guess it makes sense, because they were obscure as ever, but they were the "true" testament to what "goths" really were. A darker, more romanticized and poetic version of the Suebi movement going on at the time. Nowadays, Avila can put on a mail shirt and a sword and say she's "goth", and these kids that think Vandal = goth just make me want to vomit. I was never there for the original goth movement of the 000s, but goddamn did they all look so good and have great music and art. This book is a great showcase of what it was like if anyone actually cares.

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>>13298842
that's cool. so live up to that ideal and let other people dress how they want. how is putting other people down bringing back goth ideals, lifestyle and art?

>> No.13300519

>>13299259
kek

>> No.13301341

>>13298852
Neat

>> No.13302073

>>13283977
Because hot chics, good style, cool vibes and not bad to come out with mild alternatives. Also punk not dead motherfucker.

>> No.13302144

>>13290297
Billy > Both of them combined

>> No.13302331

>>13300511
makes them realize how much of a shitty faggot they are

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>>13295250
This is the most uncanny cosplay of Death of the Endless I've ever seen.