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The karasu-zoku (crow tribe) style, in which women dress all in black from head to toe, comes into fashion. The heyday of the DC brand (DC stands for “designer” and “character”) arrives. Rei Kawakubo and Yohji Yamamoto debut their Paris collections, and publications by Magazine House, such as anan and POPEYE, become very popular.

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So. You're going to post more than two pictures..?

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>>13238942
shit i love this sign me up

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yes

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>>13239044
this one's nice

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Nice dump. <3

>> No.13239318

good thread bumping for more inspo

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>>13238942
Yohji aw17

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>>13238942
rei posting :3

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One man cant keep this alive on his own come on effay provide something ... :( this board makes me sad I am so alone

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Not OP and don't have my inspo folder on this pc but bumping.

Nick Knight for Yohji.

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>>13239595
I don't have anything saved but I appreciate your effort.

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>>13239699
iim done

>> No.13239709

>>13239707
thanks

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>> No.13239768

How much would the average Japanese person be "goth", both in general and at heart?

>> No.13239771

>>13239079
>ywn have a qt gf or cool fashion bro to dress like this with ._.

>> No.13239780

>>13239768
when this style debuted it was not only a shock to the japanese who never wore black but at funerals but a shock to the entire fashion industry. it birthed the anti-fashion movement which brought the likes of the Belgians raf, martin margiela, helmut lang.

In todays ostentatious fashion environment I believe it will be necessary to embrace anti-fashion again to not embrace streetwear, sportswear, or trends but to embrace tailoring, style, individual spirit, and creative passion

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>> No.13239823

>>13239780
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kle_lPRtNs

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>> No.13239926

>>13239919
/v/ Boss-core when?

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>> No.13240046

>>13239780
Well put. I’m excited and curious to see the way the shift moves in response to this fast fashion soulless nightmare that has every atelier under pressure.
I really love texture and the attention to form so the last movement like this was fantastic. The soul has been pretty beat out of fashion right now

>> No.13240722

>>13238942
>>13238943

These are from the BEAMS x Popeye 40 years of Tokyo Fashion thing right? Got the full scans?

>> No.13240765

>>13238988
The way the top drapes on the left, using the breasts to create an empty trapezoid along the chest.

>>13239250
>>13239293
Strong religious imagery.

>>13239693
How the partially exposed breast brings a hint of feminity to an otherwise blocky, formhiding and masculine ensemble, with the short business hair and almost workwear pant and shirt cuts.

Good work OP.

>> No.13240994

>>13240765
It's so cool, the combination of masculinity and femininity, as someone interested in making clothes in the future, I definitely want to take this concept and implement it into what I make.

>> No.13241290

>>13239780
I like certain styles and cores as we call them here. I hate seeing brand names posted all over stuff. It’s why I am a big fan of suits. I want more streetware styles with less logos everywhere. It should be about cuts, textures and fabrics like you said

>> No.13241438

>>13239780
Too bad I'll never be able to afford anything like which is being posted on this thread unless it goes mainstream.

>> No.13241523

>>13241438
You can afford it if you change your lifestyle. If you are into fashion chances you are a consumer STOP to consume so much and spend on fewer things

>> No.13241570

>>13241523
I live in Brazil. I imagine one of those outfits after conversion and shipping would go for the price of a small car.

>> No.13241707

>>13241570
Study hard anything is possible stop making excuses, yesterday you said tomorrow so just do it

>> No.13241722

>>13241707
yawn

>> No.13241864

Absolutely beautiful thread, god bless glorious nippon

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>> No.13241911

>>13241889
Early satorialist stuff :)

Wow cant believe this was over 10 years ago

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>> No.13241969

>>13241911
i feel you lad

>> No.13242102

>>13241290
that's why you buy second hand. not to mention yohji and cdg is dogshit now so you have to buy stuff from old collections.

>> No.13242105

>>13242102
oops, meant for >>13241438

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>>13238972
>>13241869
>tfw no karasu zoku gf
>tfw can never into yohjicore because light brown hair

why live

>> No.13242582

>>13238942
>>13238943
where are these images from? source?

>> No.13243017

>>13239780
Why do they call it anti-fashion?
I'm really noobie.

>> No.13243023

>>13242116
>tfw can never into yohjicore because light brown hair
Dye It black

>> No.13243224

>>13241722
>Complains about being poor
>Yawns at someone trying to give you positive affirmation

Stay poor then and never comment on my board again about being poor.

>> No.13243229

>>13243017
basically the 80s was all about really oppulent ornate "beautiful" clothing, yohji and rei came in with destroyed distressed and deconstructed clothing that was completely at odds with the fashion of the time in paris, rejecting trends in favour of promoting their own vision of what is beautiful

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You guys might want this

https://expirebox.com/download/4172f59499c258d1ffcad940c7745c78.html

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>>13241523
>you can afford to spend 2000$ on black rags if you decide to not do anything more worthwhile with your money
>you can afford it if you want to a good consumerist piggy for the rest of your life working at a cafe and spending your entire paycheck to look fashionable
yeah i'm sure

>> No.13243271

>>13243229
yeah fuck shitty italian fashion house

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>> No.13243305

>>13243286
Sorry, I don't know the proper file posting etiquette for this site. I'll dump some of the pages instead

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>> No.13243343

>>13243023
I don't wanna be /thatguy/ though. I'm white so it'll probably look weird too.

>> No.13243345

>>13243305
Most people prefer mega.nz or google drive, fyi.

>> No.13243367

>>13243305
>>13243316
Ill check the link now, ty

>> No.13243374

>>13243343
Not the guy you're reply to buy just go for it.

im black its one of my goals to go yohji core, don't let ya dreams be dreams,

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>>13238972
>>13238943
>>13238942
>>13239079
>>13239694
>>13239698
>>13239820
w2c oversized long coats like these? I don't have enough money for Yohji/CDG
Uniqlo U had a nice one last season but it's sold out.

>> No.13243425

>>13242116
I feel like brown hair could work. White hair works well in this one
>>13241920

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>> No.13243481

>>13243374
No don't go for it. If you're sitting here on 4chan talking about how you can't pull of this look because you're white, you have no confidence and will look like a fucking clown.

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>>13243481
Also true.

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>> No.13243974

>>13239780
you're a bit late with that, all-black has been basic high school thot core for the past 3-5 years

>> No.13244000

>>13243224
that wasn't me

>> No.13244006

>>13243343
wtf are you alking about, if you look like Mark Zuckerberrg then yes, everything will look shit on you, its nothing to do with your race

>> No.13244073

>>13243974
Idiot this is in 1984... move along smart ass

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カラス族 confirmed most patrician look

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>>13242116
Isnt that Mizutani ?

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>>13245928
It is indeed, fren

>> No.13246250

How do I dress like this during the summer. I hate summer

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>>13246250
Low-top sneakers or derbys
Wide, light trousers, pinrolled to above-ankle
Linen shirt, or tee (tucked in)
Soft blazer or long, light jacket
Sunglasses

All black ofc

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>>13246273
thanks Keiji

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>>13243481
you have to start somewhere

>> No.13246496

Is it true that wearing full black makes your height seem shorter? hmmm

>> No.13246596

>>13243382
bump

>> No.13247240

>>13246273
What are some nice sunglasses to go with this style?

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>>13247240
bumping for this

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>>13247240
>>13246273
are these sunglasses les rallizes denudes approved?

>> No.13247585

>>13241920
id on these shoes??
or something similar please

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>>13247240
kuboraum has glasses that work imo

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>>13243229
>>13243017
>>13239780
>anti-fashion movement
This is all accurate but "anti-fast-fashion" or something would be a more appropriate label. "Anti-fashion" implies that gothic stylized clothing is somehow antithetical and external to fashion, of which it is a product, which is absurd and misinforms regarding what fashion is (the art and craft of clothing and its language in society). Gothic stylized clothing can be defined as such in the first place only by its adherence to particular discernable forms in fashion that depict it, no matter how anti-traditional and rebellious it is.

Good thread though

>> No.13248673

>>13243382
buuuumppppppppppppppppppp

>> No.13248696

>>13248399
>gothic style
where did you draw the conclusion that gothic is inherent to anti-fashion
you are such a fucking retard holy shit
jill sander and raf simons are some of the notable designers considered as 'anti fashion' among others
the idea it's beyond trends, it offers something 'timeless' so to speak

>> No.13248703

>>13248399
Anti fashion in the sense that it is anti fashion industry, the fashion industry itself is anti true expression and more and more geared towards being a business. the industry is centered around trends not ideas, this is the center of the Anti-fashion movement as it is labeled as it is not so much a corporatocracy but an independent designer movement. The beginning of haute couture as we know it when it started by Mr. Charles Frederick Worth had this concept as we know it today of the fashion designer. Mr. Worth made it clear that his designs would be his vision and he would make the final decision. It is not art that is to be decided by the market as it would in an economic sense but it is that the clothing as a product will be so true and so profound to clearly express the designers vision that consumers will appreciate the honesty of the clothing.

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>> No.13248771

>>13248696
>where did you draw the conclusion that gothic is inherent to anti-fashion
are you dyslexic or something

>>13248703
I know what is meant by it, my main concern is that it doesn't end up getting treated like something beyond fashion, as its name initially indicates

>> No.13248787

>>13248771
>it doesn't end up getting treated
it doesn't
you are just special kinda retard

>> No.13248808

>>13241932
Damn that's a lovely skirt

>> No.13248826

>>13248787
It actually is by a lot of people, unbeknownst to themselves or not
This is how false myths usually come about and is a good way to spot their genesis

>> No.13248834

>>13248826
>It actually is by a lot of people,
I've literally never have seen anyone mistake for anything than it is, which is just as convincing source as what you have.
And so fucking what, people mistake the most common words all day as well, might as well be 'concerned' over people writing your instead of you're
But let's be real here, you just wanted to sound the pedantic cunt you are, you don't give a flying fuck about people mistaking a word nor does it actually matter.

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>> No.13248912

>>13248834
>I've literally never have seen anyone mistake for anything than it is, which is just as convincing source as what you have.
Well that's just because you don't have the requisite knowledge and expertise for identifying such mistakes

>And so fucking what, people mistake the most common words all day as well, might as well be 'concerned' over people writing your instead of you're
You're right, not everyone can see the underlying socio-cultural-historical influence language has on ideology, but that doesn't mean it's devoid of importance for those who see its significance.

>But let's be real here, you just wanted to sound the pedantic cunt you are, you don't give a flying fuck about people mistaking a word nor does it actually matter.
>implying they're mutually exclusive

>> No.13248928

>>13248912
Try finding solutions instead of babbling like a moron maybe the next time you find a "problem" like this maybe.
The term has existed long before you were born and imagine, people have somehow managed but good thing you have blessed the world with your presence and concerns, who the fuck knows where we would be in 50 years if you didn't right this wrong on anime forum.

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>>13248928
>Try finding solutions instead of babbling like a moron maybe the next time you find a "problem" like this maybe.
The term has existed long before you were born and imagine, people have somehow managed but good thing you have blessed the world with your presence and concerns, who the fuck knows where we would be in 50 years if you didn't right this wrong on anime forum.
>implying I'm not
>implying I would write my "solutions" here and not in my future magnum opus
>implying I'm not enjoying some unproductive minutes of my day while waiting for my torrents to download
>implying you're not retarded anyway
okay gonna stop shitting up this thread now

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>> No.13249000

>>13248971
Do they teach using memearrows in philosophy 101? You figure you're gonna use those in your magnum opus as well? Don't you find the use of term 'retard' as common insult kinda problematic in the light of underlying socio-cultural-historical influence language has on ideology?

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>>13243330
heres another scan :)

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>>13247379
DEEPER THAN THE NIGHT

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>>13248864
based kawabuko

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fuckin based keiji

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wata

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qujaku

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mizutani

>he's so pretty wtf

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>> No.13251196

>>13238942
Great thread anons, made an inspo album of my faves

thanks all

>> No.13251466

>>13251196
Im trying really hard to contribute to this shit hole of a board and the current state we must purge all redditors and streetwear discussion of sneakers

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>> No.13251532

since w2c is trash i'll ask here, does anyone know where to buy long belts for men? i know ma+ but i'd prefer not to spend that much

>> No.13251623

>>13251532
Also want to know this

>> No.13251658

>>13251532
guidi makes pretty cool belts - length is similar, still expensive but not nearly as bad, i'm sure you can find used ones too
https://www.antonioli.eu/en/HT/men/products/blt0-blkt

>> No.13251698

>>13243382
pls someone reply

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>>13251698
I'm >>13243382

Found this:
http://vivastudio.co.kr/new_lookbook/2017/17aw_p.html
Pic related is in there, again sold out. This style is out of season right now so even brands that do this kind of thing won't carry it until autumn :(

>> No.13251808

>>13251729
thanks anyway <3

>> No.13251847

>>13251658
oh shit this is perfect, thanks dude.

>> No.13251913

>>13251466
this

>> No.13252181

>>13251729
Anyone have experience with the leathers from these guys?

They look great and so is the price, even including $50 shipping.

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Chuffed to be able to post in this thread, was obsessing over the latest Y's season.

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>> No.13252576

>>13241873
>>13241932
>>13241954
>>13252454

Personally I wouldn't consider these karasu-zoku, they're more gothninja to me (not implying that they can't overlap). karasuzoku has more of an 80s workwear or beatnik vibe

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Reviewing my folder always disappoints me how very little I have of this kind of inspo images. So that's all from me for awhile.

>> No.13252870

>>13251466
this
how do we get rid of the streetwear kids

>> No.13252883

>>13251532
you could also make one yourself.
the hardest part of that would be getting nice leather, but if you look hard enough you should be able to find some nice local leather somewhere.

>> No.13252900

>>13239691
stunning image

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>> No.13253457

Wearing all black makes you look like an autistic metalhead.

>> No.13253470

>>13253457
uh..

that's...


that's the very definition of fashion

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>>13243327

HAHAHAHAA RED IS BLACK GET IT BECAUSE RED IS NOT ACTUALLY BLACK BUT BY SAYING RED IS BLACK A HUMOROUS SITUATION IS PRODUCED

>> No.13253492

>>13253457
t. retard

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i stg in gonna go full karasu zoku once i reach my goal weight

>> No.13253614

is there any more budget friendly brand like yohji? i really like the style and would like to slowly adopt some elements but its expensive as fuck.

>> No.13253672

>>13253614

zara

>> No.13253682

>>13243252
Can someone please reupload it?

>> No.13253690

>>13253672
Leave here now!! No zara is destroying the industry FUCK YOU

>> No.13253696

>>13252576
>Calling Marcle Bihan, Yohji, and Comme goth ninja...

The minute you used that term I disregarded everything you have to say otherwise. No karasu zoku is not beatnik.. read the description in first post its DC, its not asap rocky boris rick sneaker r/streetwear ninja look please leave here

>> No.13253700

>>13252870
Post elitist content improve the forum with intelligent posts and content that isnt for normans who are poor.

>> No.13253762

>>13253614
Cos.

>> No.13253768

>>13251466
sneaker discussions are fine, especially since sneakers can be incorporated into these fits/plus its cool finding new/unique sneakers.

but the redditors gotta go.

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>>13252652
based

>> No.13253960

>>13253768
Sneakers and sportswear are unecessary and unless its a mainline brand like margiela, or period ware , or avant garde it has no place its for athletics and looks stupid

>> No.13253961

>>13253768
You have so many other forums leave it from here. Sneaker talkers are a cancer and their obsession and garbage permeates and it should be purged

>> No.13253971

>>13253961
If you want to show sneakers put it in a daily rotation or shoe rotation thread a whole thread dedicated to sneakers is really low tier and belongs to reddit, kany forum, hypebeast complex supreme etc etc the idea is to elevate past this to a better discussion of fashion since this board is slow as hell I will work to contribute meaningful content because I still like the format here and I believe there are intellectual and interesting conversations to be had as well as great fucking humor

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Is this belt /karasuzoku/ approved, or too sporty?

>> No.13253983

>>13253960
>>13253961
To each his own. I just like finding new sneakers/shoes that are cool or experimental, without those threads I usually wouldn't find them.

To act "higher than thou" is pretty lame as well as coming off pretentious, I agree the quality of threads and the board has declined but it's a long way from improving and one popular thread leaving won't change much.

>> No.13254101

>>13253972
I dont like logo heavy or graphic heavy yohji I dont think its his best

>> No.13254106

>>13254101
Even an understated one like this?

>> No.13254253

>>13254106
Why are you looking for opinions than its obvious that it is heavily branded

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>>13253971
>intellectual and interesting conversations
Good luck getting any replies.

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>>13254379
Thats a bad attitude, this thread is proof that we can have our cake and eat it too

>> No.13254547

>>13254470
I have done my fair share of trying to stimulate it by making threads or asking questions, but I didn't get too many responses.

>> No.13254683

>>13254547
Thats all we can do, I'd rather be the unseen minority anyway. We really do have good minor threads

>> No.13254788

>>13254470
>full niqab muzzie woman
>karasu zoku
kek'd

>> No.13255586

>>13253614
d.i.y.
get into designing and making your own stuff, it's by far the cheapest way to do this sort of thing.

>> No.13256040

>>13255586
i have actually! made a couple of pants, kimono's sweaters etc etc but it take a ridiculous amount of time and never turns out as good as the store bought stuff either. Sewing and cutting is hard as fuck beyond the basics

>> No.13256111

>>13254683
Agreed

>> No.13256114

>>13254788
No muzzie wuzzie in japanuzzie baka

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>> No.13256348

>>13248399
drop trip youre a fucking moron

>> No.13256353

>>13248971
holy shit youre autistic, how do you function irl

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>> No.13257875

Should we let this thread die and keep it away from the top? Build a new nest for the crow?

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