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13082054 No.13082054 [Reply] [Original]

What historical clothing do you like the most?

>> No.13082286
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germanic tribal core is most effay

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>>13082054

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GOAT

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I liked when all the dudes where wearing yoga pants and high heels

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>>13082320
Agreed. Men were so manly in the past, maybe because their culture wasn't influenced by feminist sjw and they didn't overodose on soy

>> No.13082401

>>13082394
superb analysis m'lord

>> No.13082411

>>13082394
a fitting critique sire

>> No.13082447

>>13082394
Who is this bitchy lady on the pic?

>> No.13082449

>>13082447
american education

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>>13082401
>>13082411
>>13082447
Men aren't what the used to be. The jews have cucked the western male.

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>>13082394
>numales will never be this manly

>> No.13082655

>>13082457
>>13082462
>nu males will never be this feminine
Nu males can't even do their own thing right.

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>>13082054
The Romans were THE most /fa/ society in all of pre-industrial history.

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>>13082893
Don't forget the Late Empire as well

>> No.13083104

>>13082457
>Implying this guy wasn't infinitely more powerful, wealthy, Chad, and got laid more times than you've jerked off
I know you think you're cleverly lampooning the Alt Right but try and say that working class whites deserve protection, identity and a homeland and you'll go to jail across Europe. Bury your head in the sand all you want.

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>>13083104
pic related, dis is me in europe after I spoke out about my desperate need for an ethnostate booo

>> No.13083891
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Without a doubt the Romans were the GOAT

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Prewar civilian soldiers

>> No.13084018

>>13083905
A thing of beauty, a relic from a golden age.

>> No.13084130
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>>13084018
I really miss the days when men could wear elaborately patterned fabrics without it looking gay.

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I'm partial to SS or Slavic-medieval stuff but i think sparta was probably peak aesthetic

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Lol. All these armours. Renaissance italy was the most fa

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>>13084692

>> No.13084744

>>13084130
To miss something, you had to have experienced it. Are u a time traveler?

>> No.13084748

>>13084687
You lol at armor, but Angelo Bronzino is wearing a gambeson here, which is armor.

>>13084686
>>13084694
He may also be wearing a gambeson here.

>> No.13084749

>>13082462
>balding
>overweight
He basically is a numale.

>> No.13084751

>>13084749
Lol, you're making fun of him for being overweight? You know how society worked back then, right?

>> No.13084755

>>13084748
Those are doublets. There's a difference in clothing made to be worn every day, and combat armour.

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>> No.13084757

>>13084751
Totally, but numales are balding, overweight, etc., so were he alive today...except the cognitive dissonance is so lousy here, someone would argue he wasn't (sorta like how Trump is somehow not the king of soy).

>> No.13084763

>>13084755
The latter two are probably doublets, I agree. I still think that first photo looks more like a gambeson, but I suppose it's unlikely.

>> No.13084768

>>13084763
>The Portrait of a Young Man with a Book is a c.1530s oil on board painting by Agnolo Bronzino. It likely depicts a literary friend of the artist holding open a collection of poetry.
Yeah, no.

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I wouldn't be wearing it of course, but for chicks.

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late ottoman empire was pretty cool ey?

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>> No.13087410
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and fucking samurai obviously

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northern African nomads were also cool as fuck

>> No.13087878

>>13087410
?????
You posted a monk that would've fought the samurai to protect the peasantry.

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jazz golden age

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>>13087355
>socks and sandals

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I want surcotes to make a comeback for women. I suppose its not far off from a pinafore dress but I'd like to see intricate topstitching and embroidery.

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>>13087415
the Tuareg still have it goin on

>> No.13089299

30s-40s.
*tips fedora*

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>> No.13089312

We need to bring back practical stuff like Cloaks, Dusters, and Gambesons.

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/EmergesFromInnerEarthToReseedCivilizationAfterGlobalCataclysmcore/

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>>13089333
Byzantine blue gambesons were peak aesthetic

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>>13089415
For this guy
>>13089312

>> No.13089519

>>13087976
god damn.

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>>13083330
Lol literally advocating for your right to exist as a white European person in Europe is illegal. How did the Europeans become so cuckolded that they relish in being subjugated and raped?

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>>13089830
If you are born caucasian/a "white European" in a European country I don't think anyone is denying you your right to exist or forcing you to marry outside what seems to be a caucasian preference.

I think it is fair for Europeans to want their culture preserved, it is reasonable for them to want more controlled immigration and of course immigrants should be expected to assimilate to an extent . What you need to realise is that multiculturalism is a reality and perhaps you should consider how Europe's grand culture (as much as I admire it) is built on the centuries-long exploitation of others.

But you clearly aren't European yourself, it seems like you're just another cloistered alt-right tard American espousing some unbalanced shite ya learnt from the echo chamber ... speaking of which, fuk off back to /pol/

>> No.13089894

>>13089879
>first suck up with 'it's ok to be white in Europe' bullshit
>multiculturalism is reality just deal with it
I don't know what does that even mean
>only West Europe was build on exploitation of others [don't read about history of Arabs, Chinese or about any middle eastern civilization tho, it goes against the narrative]
>Some Europeans had slaves 200 years ago, so now you must import bunch of immigrants to compensate, sins of your fathers are your sins
>third of post spent on name calling
stay on 4+4 chan and quit with the white savor complex, other races are not your pets

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>>13087410
samurai waifu :3

>> No.13089919

>>13087392
slp inspo right here lads

>> No.13089982

>>13089894
idk if you're the same guy

1. The crux of my argument is why do white people need to advocate their right to exist? As a white person, personally no one is denying me my right to exist, no one is persecuting me for my ethnicity. Opposed to advocating that we are so imperilled and must fight for our right to exist, perhaps a more reasonable course is that we should acknowledge that the people of a certain area should have the right to maintain their cultural heritage and outsiders/newcomers should generally respect that. Within that framework of an accepting broader culture and order (i.e. the European tradition of Australia), multicultural groups can co-exist quite well and thus multiculturalism is indeed a reality. I think it is natural for Europeans to want to preserve their culture in the face of a large influx of immigrants, yes, but I don't think fucked far-right white nationalism or left-leaning blindness to reality are the solutions to the issue at hand. Of course if the roles were reversed and Europeans were the minority migrants arriving in Arab countries things would be very different and so I understand the potential worries some Europeans may hold over a shift to towards a more discriminatory culture brought by some newcomers. But alt-right shite isn't the answer, and I was being genuine in my opinions thanks.

2. Thanks for the automatic assumption, of course most societies and "great" civilisations have used the exploitation of others to attain their position. I guess my poorly explained point here is that Europe has historically taken a lot from others and had a hand in recent geopolitical destabilisation so perhaps they shouldn't be so dumbfounded/hostile when it comes to the large influx of immigrants. Of course people shouldn't inherit the sins of their fathers

4. soz for using bad language if it really offended you mate

5. I don't think other races are my pets, honestly in my day to day life I don't think much about race at all hmmm

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WE
(but actually Thomas-Alexandre Dumas was aesthetic as fuck, and a hero of the napoleonic struggle.)

>> No.13091305

>>13089879
>white European
>in a European country

Europe is white. It has been for 20,000 years. It will be again. Europeans built their prosperity themselves, we would still have gone to the moon without some coolies or Haitians butchering the French for trying to get them to stop practising voodoo child sex magic

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>>13089982
>>13089879
There is zero evidence that multiculturalism is good for anyone (inb4 muh kebabs and tacoes), There is mountains of evidence that a people make a nation, therefore when Mexicans enter America they end up creating barrios that are just as violent as back across the border, and when Afghanis enter England they make enclaves with strict religious practices, halal slaughter and rape gangs, and their women and neighbours happily shelter rapists and terrorists and hide them from the police, because, unlike you, they haven't been programmed to hate their race or prize individualism as some divine virtue - they defend their own people, even when their people are acting like subhumans.

Multiculturalism is a project designed to benefit an elite few and keep the masses squabbling and drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator. It is fueled by capitalist interests, from cheap workers to more citizens that will vote for your party, and if you knew the first thing about the progenitors of multiculturalist theory you would understand that they didn't propose it to help or benefit Europeans or the migrants they bring in, that instead the goal is to damage both of them and benefit the elite. You are perfectly free to read Praktischer Idealismus or the sessions of the early European Union, which you should do if you are going to campaign or advocate for multiculturalism (just like a communist should read Das Kapital or a National Socialist should read Nietszche or Mein Kampf).

Also you're a faggot.

>> No.13091508

>>13084438
Sparta was quite obviously not peak aesthetic. They were practical, probably wouldn't have bothered with 90% of those design features in that pic you have, and their only difference from typical Greek armies was their crimson capes, which were practical because they could intimidate the enemy and hide bloodloss.

When not in battle, they dressed in completely plain clothes 24/7 because they didn't care for frilly things.

>> No.13091566

>>13091508
>When not in battle, they dressed in completely plain clothes 24/7 because they didn't care for frilly things.
like all greeks.

>> No.13091595

>>13091326
What makes you think I hate my race? Because I try to step back and evaluate a situation from a less tribalistic us v them standpoint? Woweee. Reread what I wrote, of course there are legitimate concerns about migrants and the attitudes/practices they bring with them, however you paint them all as a homogenous mass of bogeymen. Steve Jobs, the son of a Syrian immigrant, never contributed to society, hey? Implicitly you suggest that we should be like these bad monster refugees and unquestioningly and uncompromisingly defend our own - maybe you should try and find some more common ground with them haha

Multicultural societies are the product of many things, such as geopolitical destabilisation and refugee influxes, globalisation, aspirational immigration and ultimately a less prejudiced mindset adopted by Western countries in the 70s onwards. It doesn't make sense for the globalised 'elite' to destabilise the structure of laws/order/tradition that protects their status by purposely creating an unstable mestizo society - you need to properly explain how it benefits the elites, not engage in large scale generalisations. You're probably right that there is some motivation in fuelling a countries' growth or even swaying their political status quo through immigration, however I'm not convinced of a grand conspiracy. What you write sort of reads similarly to some Cultural Marxist theories I've seen.

Coudenhove-Kalergi obviously pushed a personal idealism informed by his own situation as a mixed-raced individual and of course I don't agree with his vision for a such breakdown of European identity. There seems to be a lot of anti-Semetic and openly racist theories regarding his work and influence floating around on the internet and I'm not going to buy into white nationalist dogma thanks.

I don't advocate for multiculturalism, I just think multi-ethnic societies are a tricky issue but ultimately a reality. So outrageous, kunt

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>>13091305
Just using the same terminology as the guy I responded to, sieg heil

>> No.13091615

>>13091595
let me correct myself, you need to properly explain WHY the elites would push to destroy the structure of laws/order/tradition that protect their status

>> No.13091877

>>13084686
I like the casual bible

>> No.13091895

>>13089287
Bedouin with attitude

>> No.13093359

>>13089312
I'll wear the fuck out of a cloak or duster/oilskin, but I don't know about gambeson. If I wore gambeson it would probably be because I was wearing chainmail and either re-enacting or walking through Detroit.

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>>13089879
>it's [current year] and so deal with it
What a nigger.

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>>13091595
#1 "growth". Having cheap migrants to pick your fruit is not a good thing for the country OR the migrants, no matter what some autistic financialist tells you. Growth at any cost is called a cancer, especially if the "growth" comes with the benefits of rape gangs, increased racial tension and racially provoked attacks (Rotherham and countless other decade long gangs specifically targeting "white meat"), unless you're like Lily Allen and believe over a million English girls would have been raped by /someone/ anyway if we hadn't imported migrants who will always identify as a collective (e.g. BBC Asian network etc).

#2 Steve Jobs. Listen, brown people are a net drain on taxes wherever they are in the West. The unemployement rates of Muslim men and women is sky high, thanks to British law that entitles them to claim benefits on religious grounds immediately (e.g. they can quit their job for having to work alongside a woman, I'm not making this up), leaving them free to pursue more traditional activities like hanging outside school gates, selling heroin to children etc
>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1552482/Missing-girls-body-put-into-kebab.html
For every Steve Jobs rocket surgeon you bring in, the rest of the migrants cost the native taxpayer billions, as well as the untold cost of, for example, 1 million white girls raped in England alone. And shouldn't these Steve Jobs be living in their countries and improving theirs? Why does the West have the right to siphon away the best and brightest minds from their countries, leaving them destitute and a shithole? Last I checked, Steve Jobs' parents didn't live in a war zone, they came to America to get more money and use American facilities. What is ethical about that? Wouldn't Syria have benefited from a Steve Jobs, or are you one of these retarded libertarians who thinks that the highest goal of society is short term Western company profits?

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>>13091595
Also, id like very much if you can prove where and when the native populations of Europe voted to be replaced by migrants. As far as I can see, the working class was never asked if they wanted their lands filled with radically different and incompatible groups of strongly tribal peoples, again it is always the elite, the champagne socialists who proclaim the benefits of forced diversity, whilst throwing anyone in jail if they criticise it too harshly (for example a father complaining that his daughter is currently being raped by a gang of Pakistani men).

I bet you sneer at the working class as being racist and countersemitic, meanwhile the only brown people you've met are the cool guys at university or the hip young metrosexual bugmen, you probably have no idea what it's like to live on a street with 90% Muslims or Somalians, and you probably nod your head in agreement with the BBC as they sneer at the "misguided and ignorant" working class, from their gated communities.

You're still a faggot.

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>>13089982
>>13089982
>As a white person
You're a cuck, a faggot, and a beta boipussi.
>But alt-right shite isn't the answer, and I was being genuine in my opinions thanks.
Your opinion isn't welcome here, and is also shite.
>no one is persecuting me for my ethnicity.
You're blind and dumb. They might not be coming for you yet, but they will, or they won't have to after they deal with the majority of the white race.
> multicultural groups can co-exist quite well and thus multiculturalism is indeed a reality.
Bullshit. Give source or example that isn't whites and asians.
> I guess my poorly explained point here is that Europe has historically taken a lot from others and had a hand in recent geopolitical destabilisation so perhaps they shouldn't be so dumbfounded/hostile when it comes to the large influx of immigrants.
You're clearly an idiot. There is no reason for whites to have the large influx of immigrants other than the naive good graces of the whites themselves, and they have paid for it with their blood.
> I don't think other races are my pets, honestly in my day to day life I don't think much about race at all hmmm
Then shut the fuck up you ignorant faggot. How the fuck would you know anything about multiculti bs if you live in a white community? Have you had to deal with niggers nigging? Ever meet a spic?

>> No.13093388

>>13084130
This is great
You can't even wear suita these days

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>>13091595
>What makes you think I hate my race?
Because you so clearly do. You won't stand for them, fight for them, want to replace them with terrorists, burrito eaters and blacks because "muh less prejudiced mindset." Well guess what, they don't care about your faggotry and neither do I.
>Multicultural societies are the product of many things,
All bullshit. If it was geopolitical destabilisation, they didn't have to drowned in the Mediterranean like niggers when they could have just went to Saudi Arabia-- which refused to take them in. We could have just refused-- and would have democratically if not for that cunt Merkel.
> however I'm not convinced of a grand conspiracy
You're ignorant then. This shit is happening all over Europe, Canada and the US, and probably Australia to. And you're probably ignorant because of your foolish bias to look further into what you deign "white nationalist dogma" as if it were a slur. And you say you don't hate your race? Idiot.
>I don't advocate for multiculturalism, I just think multi-ethnic societies are a tricky issue but ultimately a reality.
Why. Are. You. Such. A. Stupid. Bastard. Why do we have to accept that reality?

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>>13093388
What are you talking about of course you can. Wear them if you have them.

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>>13093368
>>13093377
I agree that continual growth through unstemmed immigration is wrong, yes there will be subset of immigrants who will act badly (as in all human groups), struggle to integrate and will introduce regressive cultural traits. You can stop giving me all these anecdotes and statistics pulled from thin air, I'm sure some are based in fact and some are not, because it is abundantly clear to me that you and others hold particularly unforgiving, prejudiced and toxic views on immigrants.

Nice that the right wing only shows concern about women's rights/autonomy over their bodies when it involves these marauding fucken refugees

Spare me the diatribe on Jobs, I used him simply to illustrate that immigrants aren't all bogeymen and can be citizens of merit and 'success'. How dare his father create a new life for himself in America, its not like any Scottish, Irish, German, Chinese, Vietnamese, Latino etc have ever tried to do the same hey??

>Also, id like very much if you can prove where and when the native populations of Europe voted to be replaced by migrants
Keep putting words in my mouth

>I bet you sneer at the working class as being racist and countersemitic
I'm not one for generalisation... seems you are though. Fuck off with your bullshit assumptions.

> the only brown people you've met are the cool guys at university or the hip young metrosexual bugmen
Hey nice assumptions. Wow I've met nice 'brown' people etc, hey I even got in an alley fight with some indigenous cunts - guess what, I don't paint everyone with the same brush.

Maybe you should try to entertain a less extreme worldview.

>> No.13093465
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>>13093451
>Maybe you should try to entertain a less extreme worldview.
Absolutely not, that thought is toxic.
And you still haven't explained why we have to accept these refugees and immigrants. That we did in the past when they were white is no excuse to continue now when they are no longer white.
>anecdotes and statistics pulled from thin air,
Google any of them faggot. They matter more than your laissez faire attitude and philosophy.
>hey I even got in an alley fight with some indigenous cunts - guess what, I don't paint everyone with the same brush.
Really just sounds like you're stupid then. Was in a spitting image of what you've been spinning-- the individualist, kind-hearted, mush-minded white against the ebil tribalists?

>> No.13093470

>>13093382
>>13093391
As for you two, suck my fucking dick, I really got to you, didn't I?

Attack upon attack for voicing a fairly mild contrary opinion, you're pathetic and your extremist ideology is fucked. Piss off back to /pol/

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>>13093470
Only a dolt like you could ignore the argument for the tone. I knew you wouldn't change your opinion, your programming, so I had no reason to hold back any insult because you're a disgusting specimen. Your opinion is uninformed and worthless-- you don't have to live with these mongrels. You've been wrong about practically everything up till now, and so it's only obvious you're wrong about this.

Stay in your shithole of a country with the vegemite and the kangaroos you Aussie fuck.

>> No.13093478

>>13093465
>laissez faire attitude and philosophy.
Where's your reading comprehension at
>>13089982
> Opposed to advocating that we are so imperilled and must fight for our right to exist, perhaps a more reasonable course is that we should acknowledge that the people of a certain area should have the right to maintain their cultural heritage and outsiders/newcomers should generally respect that...

>...I think it is natural for Europeans to want to preserve their culture in the face of a large influx of immigrants, yes, but I don't think fucked far-right white nationalism or left-leaning blindness to reality are the solutions to the issue at hand. Of course if the roles were reversed and Europeans were the minority migrants arriving in Arab countries things would be very different and so I understand the potential worries some Europeans may hold over a shift to towards a more discriminatory culture brought by some newcomers.

>>13091595
>of course there are legitimate concerns about migrants and the attitudes/practices they bring with them...


And then this:
>Was in a spitting image of what you've been spinning-- the individualist, kind-hearted, mush-minded white against the ebil tribalists?
I bow down to your prescience, go forth on your racist crusade agains these damn non-whites!! Godspeed!

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>>13093478
>I bow down to your prescience, go forth on your racist crusade agains these damn non-whites!! Godspeed!
The most correct thing you've said, and all that needed be said. You have a blessed day now, ya hear?

>> No.13093491

>>13088370
literally fuck off

>> No.13093605

>>13082394
Louis the XIV would definitely post here if he were in our time period

>> No.13093703

>>13093451
>I've seen a polar bear playing with children so I'll let millions into my country because of the exception to the rule
>Rotherham and the million children raped is pulled out of thin air
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/child-sex-abuse-gangs-could-5114029 <this is 2 years old.
>the "right" only cares about women's rights when it's shitskins raping white children.
Yeah, we care about our own people when they're being targeted as "kufir white meat" by whole communities that shelter their paedophiles and bombers, and no, we will always care about our women, not just when it's politically pertinent. We will always want to hang our paedophiles and rapists too, it just so happens we have a tiny fraction of them compared to the vibrant enrichers entering our countries. For instance, in 2011 in Oslo, out of the thousands of rapes, 0% were committed by native Norwegians. Very vibrant.

>I am le enlightened individualist who is so intelligent and wise I can judge every single human on their planet by individual traits, meanwhile they act as a cooperative group in their ethnic interests
Read this.
http://archive.is/LRe05

>> No.13093724

>>13083891
>>13082900
>>13082893
post modern roman imperial style. I want to dress inspired by roman aesthetics but not larping.

>> No.13093912

>>13093724
this

>> No.13093926

>>13082054
cloaks mayn
wish they would come back in style

>> No.13093938

>>13093724
>>13093724
The toga got progressively longer as time went on, but then it started to get thinner (Mind you, the Western Roman Empire dies by the time this gets to any noticeable point). This is actually a Byzantine thing, but whatever. Anyways, I can see the toga getting to be only about six or so inches in width and wrapped around the torso and left upper arm; men who want to show themselves as being luxuriant and fashionable may even have it go right down to their left hand, having to hold the end instead of tucking it in.. It might be sort of an equivalent to a vest: you wear it over another shirt and it ultimately serves no utilitarian purpose.

A lot of the robes and stuff probably won't come back into fashion any time soon. Sadly, I doubt pants are going to go away.

A lot of where fashion of the day came from was in how they could bind fabric: Buttons and brooches were the only way of attaching two fabrics together in a semi-permanent way. If brooches on men came back into style the scarf could get progressively thicker until it was effectively a cloak. Large buttons could also serve this purpose if the brooch itself doesn't work.

For whatever reason 4chan doesn't want to upload the image, so google image "Byzantine Lorum" and it'll be the first picture.

>> No.13093951

I would really, really, like tweed suits to come back into fashion for working men.

I feel like the suit's becoming a costume in general, a ridiculous amount of workplaces just have people wear smart casual nowadays.

>> No.13094087

>>13093476
If your stance is "Your opinion isn't mine therefore it's worthless", why should I interrogate your argument point by point when it won't make any difference? You're a simplistic thinker aren't ya, perhaps you do have some genuine grievances with some migrants but ultimately its clear you're a fucked racist.

>>13093703
>pulled out of thin air
>"...I'm sure some are based in fact and some are not"
That Rotherham shit is pretty terrible - I've never denied that there are big problems with migrants that need to be addressed, I just think it is unbalanced to declare all migrants boogeymen, homogenous and complicit in each other's crimes.

>we will always care about our women
very paternalistic
>We will always want to hang our paedophiles and rapists too
Which European countries still have the death penalty? I didn't know you lived in Belarus?

>I am le enlightened individualist who is so intelligent and wise I can judge every single human on their planet by individual traits, meanwhile they act as a cooperative group in their ethnic interests
Within a population some people/groups will exhibit negative behaviour and seek to further regressive causes, while some people/groups with try to be citizens of merit and co-exist with others - wow radical thinking! Nah let's paint them with the same brush and alienate them all!!!!!

I've had enough, this isn't going anywhere. Try and be a bit more balanced.

>> No.13094091

>women will never be like this again
https://youtu.be/UpnwWP3fOSA

>> No.13094117

>>13094091
>Women's dresses had a pocket set-up back then

Why is modern female fashion so retarded.

>> No.13094123

>>13094117
2 world wars, fast fashion, and probably the Jews

>> No.13094140

>>13093938
I've also thought about the possibility of a toga-comeback, made out of a thinner lightweight material like a silk, only wrapped around the upper body as a sign of wealth. I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet, I'm sure you've at least once folded your towel to look like a toga and it doesn't look back and it could work if it was made out of silk and a bit shorter and thinner.

>> No.13094150

>>13094140
I could see it working in a Mediterranean or tropical clime with maybe just an undershirt. Could become "beach formal" or something like that.

>> No.13094287

>>13094123
>probably

>> No.13094705
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Oh undoubtedly.

>> No.13094764

>>13094091
I wonder where you'd find a ladies maid nowadays. A white one I mean.

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How do I make this more modern? Just my mockup

>> No.13095653

>>13094087
I barely like the people I live around why would I want to coexist with groups that I have absolutely nothing in common with. Human existence is tribalistic and just because you will try to deny it doesn't mean the rest of the third world has forgotten this, relish in your tolerance as it sinks a blade into your neck.

People here have enough problems we have to deal with, It's hard enough to find a good job, people are poor, am I supposed to feel sorry for everyone that has it worse than me or my neighbor until I have nothing left and I too live in a shanty.

>> No.13095857

>>13095350
Wear pants. Skirts haven't been considered masculine since the roman times in europe

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>>13095857
>how to make chiton look more modern
>wear pants
Dude seriously?

>> No.13095952

>>13095880
Yeah, you can wear a skirt, but it's not modern in the west, is it?

>> No.13095973

>>13095952
You don't understand the question. Also I live in socal where people wear all kinds of weird shit and its just whatever. Why are you even on this board.

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>>13095350
>>13095973
Shit nigger what are you doing
Just because everyone around you is a retarded faggot doesn't mean you should or have to be to. Find some Roman reenactors around you or something if you want to be historical effay.

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>>13095350
But if you're serious about this just do something like this. The question you should be asking is how you make it look masculine. Or make it like a ye olde bed shirt or regular shirt with the slit collar, wrap a belt or w/e around the waist and wear trousers under, like some kind of Cossack. That'd be cool and masculine as fuck.

>> No.13096071
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>>13096054
Something like this, a tunic. Slav Ruskie Cossack core.
Or just add pockets to it.

>> No.13096073

>>13096038
>>13096054
I don't really care about looking masculine or not. That's not my objective. I want to start wearing a chiton out in public. I want it to look ancient but with a modern twist. You still don't get it. Youre answering the wrong question.

>> No.13096080
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>>13096054
The problem you're going to run into is weather. The Chiton came about in a culture where getting naked when you had to do manual labor was not only normal but necessary. Casual nudity was a simple fact of life due to the climate. That doesn't work in large portions of America and Europe anymore both due to clime and societal expectations.

So, for one, you're probably going to have to have sleeves and, sadly, pants. So something like this (where the buttons on it don't really matter). A common thing to do would be to hike the chiton up and drape it over the belt a bit so you had some room to move, which can also be done on this; that can certainly be done and still look masculine (pic related).

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>>13096073
>he fell for the androgynous meme
My suggestions are pretty good. If you want to wear a chiton just wear it then and don't try to add a "modern twist." or just add some pockets to it.

Either way, unless you reinterpret it you'll just look like a reenactor who got lost in civilization or some kind of species of greasy hobo hippy.

>> No.13096082

>>13096080
bruh its so damn hot in socal a chiton is great for most of the year.

>> No.13096088

>>13095350
looks chit

>> No.13096090

>>13096082
SoCal is one of the few places such a thing could work.

Honestly, the Chiton itself in those places could work relatively well. If you REALLY wanted to "modernize" it, just take >>13096080, cut the sleeves and collar off, and make the neck hole a bit bigger.

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>>13096082
Move then. SoCal is a shithole and California is going to shit.
You can also try something like this Deutsches Afrika Korps shirt.

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>>13096090
>>13096093
But please for the love of god wear pants or at least shorts under it.

>> No.13096111

>>13096093
I already live here, Ive worn the chiton out and havent really gotten too many looks. I just want to make it less plain and straight out of a reenactment

>> No.13096129

>>13096111
California is still going to shit-- too many illegals who can literally murder you and get off with a slap on the wrist. Worse the govt is full of faggots like Wiener who probably hate you as a (i assume) cis white male. And there's no fucking water.

But yeah, I think you've got plenty of suggestions now. There's not much you can do to "modernize" such a simple garment without reimagining it imho.

>> No.13096138

>>13096129
bro come actually live in socal. Its not like that at all.

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>>13096138
>bro
>bruh
I've been to SoCal and it's the devil's arsehole. Hot and smoggy. I'd rather live somewhere that won't conceivably collapse in the next 20 or so years.

>> No.13096896

>>13082394
>this all-mighty king had like dude like lmao tight pants and high heels centuries before it became ladieswear duuuuuuude
you have the same sense for history as a dull elementary schooler

>> No.13096918

>>13087385
why do all their heads look photoshopped onto their bodies?

>> No.13096944

>>13094764
You can't. Like most of the service industry its been outsourced and fractured. Honestly it would pay for itself if they acted as personal assistant, stylist, laundress, and seamstress like in the past.

>> No.13096947

>>13096138
I was there for a concert at the forum this past summer. I stayed in my hotel the entire time because I didn't want to get shot.

Inglewood does not feel like a safe area at all.

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>>13095350
Bare men's legs is harem and gross. No one wants to see that nasty shit. Wear a more medieval chiton/tunic with hose or men's leggings or leave that style for attractive thin women.

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>>13096944
Something of a damn shame that. I suppose there'd be someone willing, you'd have to throw it out there randomly though. You know I almost trained as a butler?

>> No.13097235

>>13097160
I've actually been trying to find one. A modern butler would work fine as a man's valet, usually part of the training but a lady's maid is more trick because they have to be good with both hair and sewing, both of which pay pretty well as an independent profession.

At this point I'd accept almost anyone and train them if they stuck on, but all my ads never get answered and domestic staff aren't offered visa in the USA so I can't import.

>> No.13097257

>>13082394
LOL what made you say that? Was it the big bulge?

>> No.13097259

>>13082394
>>13082457
It’s been a great 3 months in /pol/ eh? 4chan is so extreme compared to Reddit, yah?

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>>13097235
Oh how interesting. What gave you the idea of having one? I'm inclined that way myself, although you have a slight gender issue there. I got within a hairs breadth of being a Royal Navy steward. If it had not been for my hearing I expect I'd be coming to the end of the contract and moving into private employment right about now. I'm surprised, I thought being a nanny and so on was a sure way of a green card.

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>>13094764
>tfw no qtp2t Nip maid to impregnate
why live

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>>13096167
damn that cloak looks comfy.

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>>13097756
No that's something else. We're talking about proper maids, fucking one would be most improper.

>> No.13097818

>>13097673
>What gave you the idea of having one?
I started wearing a corset and doing my hair up and its a real fuss. I suck at my own hair. Also at this point I have too many shoes and expensive clothes to deal with.

>> No.13097890

>>13097818
I wonder though, what do they do the rest of the day.

>> No.13097907

>>13097890
Well, if I was paying them full-time I guess they could do errands or PA work.

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>>13097907
Well it's something I'm interested in, but that's not much help to you.

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>>13097907
>>13097950
Oh yes, I had meant to ask, where do you even advertise such a thing?

>> No.13098321

>>13082394
reminder Louis wanted himself to be posed like this because he was very proud of those legs. he used to dance in the past and was seriously very proud of his legs.
>Men were so manly in the past, maybe because their culture wasn't influenced by feminist sjw and they didn't overodose on soy
hilarious how you chose to use this pic of Louis for your point, the man who brought the Rococo style to the mainstream, one of the most feminine art styles in the European tradition. shows you know fuck all

>> No.13098323

>>13089982
everyone's shitting on you because 4chan's edgy but I think all your points are valid.

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>>13084686

>> No.13098329

>>13088370
are you 16 and just discovering fashion anon?

>> No.13098333

>>13089919
underrated

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>>13093382
>>13093377
>>13093368
stop derailing thread, there are boards for this exact type of discussion, ya know, pol?

>> No.13098348

>>13098321
I think you may have missed some sarcasm there.

>> No.13098352

>>13098348
idk, never know here. not sure how many people are educated in art history

>> No.13098364

>>13098352
I think the point was to mock that attitude that holds today, in light of heels; corsets; wigs and so on originally being male fashion items. What you pointed out was certainly interesting at any rate.

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>>13095653
In regards to your second paragraph, fair enough. But ultimately your quest for an ethnostate (or ethno-continent) is tone-deaf and reprehensible, pic related

>>13098323
cheers, felt like I was being torn apart for a fairly mild point

>> No.13098460

>>13098323
>>13098427
>cheers, felt like I was being torn apart for a fairly mild point
It's genuinely because you're both wrong. Demonstrably wrong. That you ignore statistics and reality in favor of your moral and ideological position is infuriating because it's that sort of shit that's causing the horrors in the Europe and America. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

I mean people are basically yelling at you with statistics saying how many muslims commit crimes, how many commit rapes, how crime has skyrocketed because of muslim immigration, and you're only argument is "sounds unbalanced to me. Not all muslims you know" while ignoring the statistics. Maybe not all-- but the majority of. And you never address why this is the way things SHOULD be. I know you like stimulating your prostate because you're a fag, but stop sitting on the goddamn fence like it were a dildo.

God I didn't notice this earlier but checking how this started-- you fucking broached the topic and then played the victim. God you're a faggot. Just this line alone makes me hate your guts: "What you need to realise is that multiculturalism is a reality and perhaps you should consider how Europe's grand culture (as much as I admire it) is built on the centuries-long exploitation of others."

t. the guy who posted Rockwell
p.s. I hope you get raped by a wild pack of niggers

>> No.13098465

>>13097756
princess-cut maid, didn't know I wanted this

>> No.13098559
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>>13098460
I'm so unreasonable because I don't want to expend more of my time substantiating the dailymail articles and alt-right website statistics of fucked people who cherrypick and ignore my points and call me faggot, fag, stupid bastard, cuck, "beta boipussi" (kek), nigger interchangeably because of a simple contrary argument. I'm not a victim, this shit is expected on 4chan, but they definitely gave reasonable responses/reasonable arguments hey?

>>13093703
>"That Rotherham shit is pretty terrible - I've never denied that there are big problems with migrants that need to be addressed, I just think it is unbalanced to declare all migrants boogeymen, homogenous and complicit in each other's crimes."
Hey look, I responded to one of your brethren's points and admitted that there isn't an untouchable position of moral and ideological superiority in this matter, rather we should strive to be level-headed and less prejudiced. Nice reading comprehension, nice cherrypicking skills.

>Maybe not all-- but the majority of
Give me a statistic

>And you never address why this is the way things SHOULD be.
I never said Europe "should" throw open its boarders and absorb the influx. I think migration to countries by people of different races, cultures and creeds is perfectly fine if it is undertaken in a controlled manner and the newcomers are respectful and able to integrate within a few generations. Most of these arguments thrown at me advocate extreme intolerance and an ethnostate, treating all migrants like an unredeemable disease. I know things shouldn't be like that, at least.

>you fucking broached the topic and then played the victim
Meh I responded to a dude who decried jail time for those who protect white identity/advocate for a white homeland and then took on a greater argument. Sorry, I shouldn't have taken up a person who wonders why being essentially a white nationalist neo-nazi is perhaps an indictable offence in Europe.

>> No.13098561

>>13098559
I meant >>13094087 opposed to >>13093703

>> No.13098650

>>13098559
https://www.atheoryofus.net/islam-statistics/
https://carm.org/islamic-muslim-statistics-on-violence-rape-terror-sharia-isis-welfare

I recommend these two for statistics, but take with a grain of salt they are worse then they appear. Why? Because we know the establishment always tries to cover for these immigrants, if not because there's some large conspiracy, then because it will reduce their chances of winning reelection in their countries. Or don't, take them as they are, they're still pretty damning proof of how unassimilable the majority is. For instance Sweden is trying hard to smother it's crime statistics. They constantly whitewash muslim crime, choosing to call them in the press "asian" for instance. We know the press are in bed with the political elite. Try to just google "Muslim crime in Sweden" and see how many Leftist propaganda pieces you get that either tergiversate away from the issue or lie about it. All the top results are liberal. Just finding these statistics is a chore in itself, because they're deliberately hidden.

Sometimes you need to be impassioned to get things done. Sometimes it's the only answer when being level-headed gets you nothing. You cannot dismantle the masters house with the master's tools.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/25/migrant-crime-germany-rises-50-per-cent-new-figures-show/
Title speaks for itself.

>I know things shouldn't be like that, at least.
Well, why not? That's how things are in most nonwhite countries. You claim there's no position of moral superiority then you say shit like this out of the blue.

>I think migration to countries by people of different races, cultures and creeds is perfectly fine
And why would you think this? Why would a country want someone who fundamentally disagrees with the most important beliefs it has? Especially in democratic nations, where they can get the vote and affect national politics for the majority of native folk? WHY do they HAVE to leave their countries?

>> No.13098665

>>13098650
Population replacement fundamentally changes the character of the country. You cannot interchange whites for blacks, or Latinos, or arabs, and get the same results. Half of this is GENETIC (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/12/09/study-on-twins-suggests-our-political-beliefs-may-be-hard-wired/)) and if you dislike that then just chalk it up to culture. The very reason you might be so open to foreigners might well be BECAUSE you're white. Doesn't mean brown people will hold the same beliefs you do, whether that's from genes or culture or ideology, you might welcome them with open arms only for them to gut you as they are going to Europe.

http://www.businessinsider.com/impact-refugee-crisis-on-germanys-economy-2016-3
Migrants also aren't profitable. Plus you can find articles where Muslims literally refuse to work because they consider themselves guests of Merkel. Those stories might be old now, but they exist.

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are flappers old enough?

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This thread is a mess.

>> No.13098672

>>13098668
It's historical,sure.

>> No.13098673

>>13098669
It was doomed to become political at some point.

>> No.13098675

>>13098673
Why the nerds have to politicise everything historical?

>> No.13098677

>>13098675
I don't think it's nerds doing it.

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European clothing is so different from country to country.

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>>13098721
And from time to time.

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>>13098725

>> No.13098781

>>13098650
You are very careful to illuminate the potential biases and agendas of left-leaning establishment/media (though I agree with your assessment on winning reelection), however the Christian sources you cite somehow get a free pass and are not in any way 'propaganda'?

CARM (Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry) is a calvinist "non-profit, Christian ministry dedicated to the glory of the Lord Jesus Christ and the promotion and defense of the Christian Gospel, doctrine, and theology."
>A strict Christian website is diametrically opposed to Islam and Muslims, would have never guessed!
>condemns Sharia law yet also implicitly questions the secularism of the US Constitution and the division of church and state https://carm.org/government
> Condemns homosexuality as an immoral sin, hey don't Muslims do that too?
>Douglas E. Cowan: CARM is a "carefully managed presentation of selected truths, half-truths, spun truths, and untruths." Look what he has to say up.

A Theory of Us is more slickly presented Christian website that raises some genuine concerns with Islam, however it so obviously has an agenda of spreading the conservative traditions and values of Christianity.

Anyway I get the gist of all these (some truthful, some not) statistics/websites; a subset of displaced, alienated and desperate people from a culture with a significant number regressive traits have upped these countries' crime and sexual assault rates. It's not unexpected. If you can suspend your distrust of establishment and love for alt affirmative sources for just a second, read this Swedish Government article http://www.government.se/articles/2017/02/facts-about-migration-and-crime-in-sweden/, which provides a fairly forthright clarification of the issue.

Even that Telegraph article you linked states that
>"Most of the crimes are committed by repeat offenders, and just 1 per cent of migrants account for 40 per cent of migrant crimes, according to the figures."

continued...

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>>13098650
>>13098781
... Continued

Anyways I'm done with derailing this thread. Your questions are pretty much answered by my previous posts and if people still don't understand my viewpoint by now or can't tolerate it, they never will.

>> No.13098804

>>13098781
I just googled man, I don't have any statistics to hand. Next time I read a particularly compelling one I'll be sure to vet it and note it down. Far to say crime statistics have risen because of migrants-- and this is unacceptable. I would rather no immigration than a single individual become a victim of a foreigner. Of course everything we read and don't see and experience for ourselves can be propaganda, and then you cite me Swedish govt. shit. If anything in this thread is propaganda m8, I guarantee you that shit is.

>Swedish Government article
Jesus fucking Christ man you expect me to believe that? I'll read it, but Sweden's fucked because of immigration, so fucked it's now considering military intervention to break up the no go zones, and it's been said it will be a third world country in a number of years. You know nothing.

""Most of the crimes are committed by repeat offenders, and just 1 per cent of migrants account for 40 per cent of migrant crimes, according to the figures."
>according to the figure

>> No.13098815

>>13098797
I understand your viewpoint, and I am telling you it is naive, foolish, and wrong. It's textbook bluepill syndrome.

I can accept that you believe that just fine, and I can tolerate it. But I'm white. And in time you'll see what's really happening, maybe, I don't know that much about you. Just, keep your eyes peeled, and look into the counter narrative more, and don't just believe what government documents and the media tells you.

We disagree, but we're technically on the same team. Remember that.

>> No.13098818

>>13098781
I mean look at this
>>>/pol/157882306

"The Migrant murder spree that has shocked Sweden" Breaking news.
" Gang of immigrants shoot the guy up in the parking lot.
> Victim manages to flee to a car that speeds towards a hospital to save his life.
> The immigrants manages to derail the car and execute him.
> A witness saw directly what happens in the parking lot, and manages to ID the suspects in a hearing. The witness asks for his name to be withheld in fear of his safety.
> 6 weeks later, the witness calls the police frantically.
> The gang of immigrants have found out that he was the one that snitched them out, so they break into his apartment with weapons and knives.
> The witnesses wife is home alone while the witness is out with the dog.
> The woman is brutally murdered in her own apartment. When the witness comes home, he sees what transpires and manages to run to a neighbor to make said call to the police.
> The criminals break into that apartment as well.
> The witness runs out to the streets and gets overrun by the criminals.
> The police arrives, and as they arrive the immigrants are sitting on his chest and stabs him to death."

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>>13098804
**figures according to your article.

I read through your websites and looked at the sources, you should do the same and with that website (I understand your skepticism though).

I'm out, bye!

>> No.13098824

>>13098781
And that Swedish document makes no attempt to even number the number of rapes, or compare it to rapes last year, or the year before, or a decade ago, or even bother to catalog it according to the race or status of the perpetrator. It just defines rape in Sweden as being stupid (big surprise since it's an ass backwards liberal country) that doesn't even touch on the issue. Saying rapes have risen since the migrant crisis is a major understatement.

>> No.13098873

>>13089312
A cloak revival should happen

cloaks & capes

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>>13098873
I bought this pattern but a little sad none of them include a hood. I think I'll go with the second with a Georgette ribbon. Capes are easy to sew even for a novice like me.

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>>13098873
Your're goddamn right. I don;t own a single piece of headwear that works with it though. Maybe a deerstalker?

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>>13099428
Or a pickelhaube

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>>13099431
Maybe that's a stop too far. If these same in the same colour as the cape I wonder if it'd work.

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>>13099439
What the hell happened to my spelling.

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>>13099439
I want to get a cloak and wear a ridiculous hat now.

>> No.13099767

>>13096951
How to identify shit taste 101

>> No.13099948

>>13099444
Okay I mean i'd rock something like that.

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>>13082462
>Louis XVI
>manly

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>>13090001

>> No.13100001

>>13082054
I'd like to find a good tunic, I don't realy know where to start, I don't want some cosplay-tier shit

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Raj-Core all the way.

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>>13098725
wow

>> No.13100953

>>13099979
True, just look at Americas luxurious inhabitants how tasteless and noveau riche they are.

>> No.13101205

>>13099979
WAS

>> No.13101208
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>> No.13101209

>>13100001
Make one yourself.

>> No.13101213

>>13101209
Do you have any good pattern ?

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>> No.13102496

>he doesn't get his whole wardrobe from Townsends' online store

>> No.13102508

>>13102496
>Townsends' online store
POST FIT

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A bit of Victorian is fine, but the colours were very dour. I blame that time period for the lack of colour in british clothing still.

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Modernism was a mistake. Bring back proper military dress.

>> No.13103420

Great thread. More please.

>> No.13103449

>>13082320
I have to wear hosen like these when I do reenactment. They're really cosy but good fuck I'm terrified they'll split and my balls will rocket out if I move my legs too much.

>> No.13104366

>>13099428
Post experimental Serb camo, or deal with the consequences.

>> No.13104390

>>13098352
you are definitely the retard here and unfortunately your AP Art History class did fuck all in making you any less of a retard

>> No.13104396

>>13083104
>>Implying this guy wasn't infinitely more powerful, wealthy, Chad, and got laid more times than you've jerked off
no one implied anything like that you brainlet cuck

>> No.13104398

>>13091326
>Mexicans enter America
son it was the US that swallowed Mexicans

>> No.13104404

>>13088370
kek

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>> No.13104410

>>13091305
>Europeans built their prosperity themselves
kek

>> No.13104429
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https://www.battlemerchant.com/Footwear/Roman-footwear/Caligae-Roman-Sandals-with-authentic-hobnails::2426.html

Thinking of copping these for regular, every-day use. Thoughts?

>> No.13104442

>>13104429
That's like wearing cleats. Hobnails won't be pleasant on flat floors

>> No.13104446

>>13104442
That's what I was thinking. Hoping they wont be long enough to make it impossible to walk on surfaces like that.

>> No.13104449

>>13104446
No they are garbage. Just buy leather sandals that look like that. Also the metal will scrape so indoors you might mess up floors.

>> No.13104451

>>13104449
What type of sandals did you have in mind?

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>>13104366
That's outside the remit of this thread.

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>>13094705
You could probably start adding a lanyard to jackets to slowly get that style back.

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>>13105156
Some designer had pretty good attempt I think.

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>>13105198
I want whatever the sash belts are.

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>>13087392
Zapata was dirty as fuck. That's how poor people dressed in mexico back in the day.
They do look stylish now, but that's because of the lack of color and detail.

Villa, on the other hand (the one in the golden chair) was one of the tightest mexicans to ever exist. Compare the look between them two.
He's the only person in the whole history to ever invade the US.

Porfirio Diaz is great example of what Mexico could've been.

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>>13105271
Here's Porfirio. Brought trains, French architecture, and a shitload of technology to Mexico

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>>13105156
Nap. era stuff is pretty cool-looking but what's especially cool is the Balkan/Greek/Turkish kind of aesthetic.

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>>13105737

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>>13105742

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>>13084130
>>13105737

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Furs in general.

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>>13105744

>> No.13105785
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>>13105737
>pleated skirts, and pompom shoes for men
Sign me in!

>> No.13105798

>>13105785
There are bloody great big spikes under those pom poms.

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>>13105798
There's nothing like trampling on a turk's face with big ol' hobnails on the bottom of your pompom shoes

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>>13084756

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Point where industrial production of clothes made stylish things afordable for large part of society, but society still had a proper dress code.

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Oh I like this. I don;t know any good references for Victorian country clothing though.

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>>13105798
Swerve, lowlander solelets.

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>>13105907
>>13105828
No no, on the top of the boot itself. For groin attacks.

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>>13105276
>Brought trains, French architecture, and a shitload of technology to Mexico
I'm sure the métis were very happy

>> No.13105935

>>13099979
Franklin was not a slave owner you retard. You also left out the guillotine and the terror while the aftermath of the American revolution they didn't have any of it.God people like you should be put down.

>> No.13105997

>>13105935
lol he owned and sold them for the majority of his life

>> No.13106227

>>13095653
early humans tribes didnt even hold race in high regard, it was language dipshit, no one really cared what you looked like back then as long as they could understand you to an extent

>> No.13106358
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Obligatory.

>> No.13106431

>>13106358
why does i have the boss logo? that's pretty cringe.

>> No.13106480

>>13106431
Cause Hugo boss designed their uniforms? Look it up

>> No.13106485

>>13106480
He didn't.

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>>13106485
Yes he did https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Boss_(fashion_designer)

>> No.13106497

>>13106431
because they were designed by hugo boss lmao

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>>13106486
>Produced=/=designed

>> No.13106567

>>13106505
You know what we mean. It would still have the company name anyways.

>> No.13106594

>>13082893

False, Greeks win.

>> No.13106598

>>13084744

Bitch, I might be.

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every guy just wears caps now
i know you're balding, i'll be there too one day, but why make it so boring?

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Turkic. My ancestors :^)

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>> No.13106697

>>13106682
Disgusting

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>>13106697
Not as "disgusting" as your horrendous spelling.

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>> No.13106703

>>13106699
This is bait, No one can be this braindead.

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>>13106702

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>>13106704

>> No.13106707

>>13106703
Try again, I am indeed braindead.

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>>13106705

>> No.13106713
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>>13106710

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>>13106713

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>> No.13106912

>>13082054
I was told this looks bad quality.
>>13106904