/fa/ - Fashion

>>9933675
interested

read this
>>9920799
and everything else in the thread

Anyone recommend a good spf sunblock/moisturizer that isn't too noticeable on the face?

>>9935796
jackblack double duty.

please don't let this one die like the last one did.

we need more people to take responsibility for the threads, instead of just posting unfounded skincare speculation or asking questions without lurking beforehand - only to then abandon the thread.

a bit less egoism would be nice, for a change.

otherwise, those who actually contribute with lots of content will be discouraged -because, why bother? no one seems to care about that the content of the threads is there to help the people who need it.

>>9936008
I see you dropping knowledge in skincare threads. Are you a dermatologist? Med student?

>>9936008
I definitely appreciated your posts in the last thread.

I wish I could've contributed beyond asking questions, but my knowledge is limited in that field.

Is there a proper way to tan I usually use sunblock then tanning lotion over that but I feel like im just getting red and not actually tanning. Im not getting sunburnt its just not the browner shade I want.

What worked for me is sleeping on my back making sure that my face doesnt touch the pillow, using Cerave cleaner and moisturizer, stopped touching my face and my skin started getting remarkably better once i switched from the 5 blade razor to a double edge safety razor (it got rid of a lot of my skin irritation and razor burn/bumps on my neck; i got a Merkur double edge and a Taylor of Old bond Street shaving cream,which was kinda expensive upfront but Ive saved money in the long run)

Some tips and tricks I've accumulated in my short lifespan, however have proven useful to the point where my face will look better than girls with good makeup on:

>Change your pillow sheets every 2-3 days (using clean cotton t-shirts can do the trick), or lay a clean damp towel every night to sleep on
>Don't touch your face, ever.
>Stop eating mcdonalds, or anything that will leave you licking your fingers
>If thats too hard, just replace all your drinks with water. Easiest noob diet change ever, yet does monumental change
>If you are not already, look into being athletic: sweating does the skin wonders.


Only 19 years old but my face has only seen perhaps ~5 pimples in my entire lifetime. Genetics might have played a role but I've had these habits since I was 15

>Had bad acne when I was 15
>Went to dermatologist
>started taking topicals
>No more acne after 3 months
>Got the laser treatmeant to remove scars
>3 years later acne started coming back
>Have to do it all over again
>RIP IN PIZZA

>>9933698
Can we get this thread put on the Wiki?

Im not good at editing Wikis and my writing skills are mediocre at best.
Simply we need more high quality content on the wiki and that thread is a gold mine.

>>9936103
Eat carotenoids. (Tomatoes, carrots, etc.)
http://www.thekitchn.com/is-it-possible-to-get-a-tan-in-118216

>>9933675
wait until you grow out of it

Sometimes i get very light and small bumps on my back inbetween my shoulder blades, and no where else, anyone have any idea what it could be? I guess it may be acne but i cant get a good look at it, and it's nowhere else but there, and i have good skin otherwise

>>9936282
Its acne. If it's only once in a while I wouldn't really worry about it. Just wash your upper back and shoulders everyday and that should keep them at bay.

>>9936289
alright, thanks mate

>have a meme

I've tried creams, pillow case switches, and stopped using my face soap altogether but no results

Other side. anything I should try next? I mostly want to get rid of the red marks

>>9936315
those are whiteheads not pimples

>tfw mild acne
>tfw don't care enough to do anything about it

Some people at my school literally have more pimples than skin, it's quite disturbing actually.

>>9936344
>Notice a flaw but have no desire whatsoever to fix it.
Always stay beta /fa/.
>Some people
Don't worry about what Omegas be do.

Worst skin on /fa/ reporting in.

Majority of this is due to bad diet, lactose intolerance and sugar (fucks my shit up).

But even when no acne, skin around the nose is super dry constantly. dno what to do

>>9936325
you should try finishing puberty

>>9936365
go to fucking /adv/ or /fit/ or something

no one wants to see that pizza face here

jesus christ when will /fa/ get rid of all the pimple-ridden teenagers

>>9936379
>teenager

If I was a teenager I wouldn't have a problem

>>9936365
Get rid of Acne pronto. If you lactose intolerant stop drinking/eating that shit. Milk is not worth it and Im assuming you're not a /fit/izen.

Fix that diet and drink water until your piss is near clear everyday. Do this for the rest of your life. Your diet should be healthy balanced and include dark greens, carrots and Olive oil.

If your skin is dry with the above diet and near 0 acne then try a moisturizer. In fact just get a good daily routine. Reddit has a nice subreddit (Skincareaddiction I believe) for promoting healthy skin. You should check them out if your willing.

Also Pic related for fucks sake. Use it.

>>9936382
Cheers man. Sound advice. also it's winter, perma dry lips incoming

>>9936389
Winter, are you a Aussi or something?

>>9936398
Yeah man, we just went into winter now. even mildly cold weather destroys my lips ever year.

50F is freezing for where I live.

>>9936315
>>9936325
I had those exact same type of blemishes, I tried a ton of remedies too with minimal avail, here's what's worked for me.

buy a pair of facial scrubbing gloves, a bar cetaphil too, not the liquid kind.

when you're in the shower scrub you face with the gloves without adding cetaphil, scrub your face for a little while then wait a couple minutes for your pores to completely open up.

lather the gloves with cetaphil and proceed to scrub your face again, leave the cetaphil on for a couple minutes and then wash it off.

be careful to keep your eyes closed, it burns like a motherfucker.

paulas choice aha gel boys ww@

>>9936424
Where can I get all of the materials? I would prefer not to stop at multiple stores

>>9936432
Sally's had everything the last time I went.

A CVS SHOULD have everything.

Wallmart only has some of the supplies.

>>9936432
http://www.amazon.com/Earth-Therapeutics-Hydro-Exfoliating-Gloves/dp/B00BS7AB08

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004OCGZWW/ref=twister_B00M8XY5NU?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

1. Cleanse your face using a cotton dabbed in vegetable oil (removes any dirt wihtout damaging your skin).
2. Cleanse the oil away using a soap-free face cleanser. Roll your fingers lightly over your face without scrubbing.
3. Pat your skin dry using a clean towel.
4. Apply a lotion made for acne prone skin (this removes any minerals left on your skin by the water).
5. Moisturize either using a cream (make sure it doesn't contain ingredients that clog pores) or an oil (jojoba or other of the same type).
6. Locally apply tea tree essential oil (antiseptic) on any blemishes.

Do this every morning and every night. Never scrub your face using a mechanical scrubbing product (the ones that contain little balls / grains). You may use a chemical peeling (mask containing AHA / BHA), but never more than twice a month.

Skin cells take 30 days to regenerate. No matter what you do, you won't see the effects of it before a month has passed. So keep going at it - regularity is key.

>>9936382
I got a lip pimple from using chapstick, it blocks your pores, never had a pimple near my mouth until I started using it

>>9936506
Huh thats ironic (for me at least). I used to get cold sores, pimples, herpes ( Dont fucking know) on my lips every now and then during the winter from chapped lips.

Started using chapstick and I've never gotten a pimple and I cant say I've needed to worry about chapped lips.

>>9936519
sucks my lips are always dry as fuck from the citys weather, chapstick or not

>>9936506
Bacteria tends to strive on sticks (and in pots where you stick your fingers as well). Getting something that comes out a tube is better.

>>9936530
Idk man try a different lip balm. Theres some shea butter balm, lip butters, etc. Find something light.

>>9936535
I've only used those when I've had cold sores and existing lip problems. I didn't even consider bacterial growth anon.

I might end up switching to one of those the next time I need to buy some lipbalm.

I just wash my face with water. Should I get a cleanser? My skin is pretty good besides blackheads on my nose and the occasional pimple.

>>9936535
Only if you don't touch the tube to your mouth.

>>9936747
Yes but start doing black head removal. Its pretty satisfying.

>>9936758
Shit is really fun. Not gonna lie. Makes my nose red for like 2 days though. So the recommended cleanser is CeraVe Foaming Facial Cleaner? What's wrong with the Hydrating Cleanser?

Also, would Neutrogena Neutrogena Men® Triple Protect Face Lotion with sunscreen SPF 20 make a good daily moisturizer? I don't want to apply a moisturizer AND sunscreen everyday. I'm a lazy butt.

I have a lot of really big sebaceous filaments in my nose, how do I get rid of this shit?

Is it true that cold showers can make your skin look better?

>>9936791
The general wisdom I have heard is yes - hot water to open pores, wash them, cold water to close them. Or something like that.

>>9936008
I make the homescreen threads over at >>>/wg/ (pic related). I'm willing to make /skincare/ a maintained and routine thread given that you guys are for it.

try this stuff
works great for me

EYE CREAM GOT RID OF MY FUCKING LINES UNDER EYES WTF (I'VE HAD SINCE LONG TIME)

eyy noice

that pic was taken this morning too, normally my eyes would be super dark (not much sleep since exams) but even that looks fine

oyyy

>>9936805
More fucking retarded advice from this idiot.

Pores don't open and close

>>9937729
whats the eye cream called?

>>9937761
http://www.amazon.co.uk/OZ-Naturals-Ingredients-Considered-Satisfaction/dp/B00GYF65TK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1433325826&sr=8-1&keywords=eye+cream

they didn't pay me to be a shill but tbh this stuff is good i don't mind

>>9936315
drink more water, and exfoliate with BHA/AHA. Paula's Choice.

>>9936025
Not a derm. Med school is an option if I ever stop doing all kinds of other things. Considering how much dermatology I read in my spare time, maybe it's the way to go.

>>9936081
Cheers. A simple bump will suffice to keep it from dying, or calling out obvious misinformation, or directing people to good posts about their problems.

>>9936215
We do need more quality content on the wiki, but this is kind of the first time I've seen the wiki being mentioned in a long time. It's like no one uses it at all. Maybe we could change that?

Contributions/suggestions can probably be sent to the admin of the wiki - calebsevern@gmail.com - as listed on the site.

>>9936815
Go for it. Anything that is an effort beyond the ordinary is great.

>how to skincare
>have good genes
>use cleansing pads and moisturizer
>have good genes

thats literally it.

>>9936815
+1
do eet

>>9933675
Tretinoin if you can get some

>>9936769
I currently use that face lotion but it isn't too great.

Get something that has more hydrating power and buy a sunscreen product separately.

See >>9933698

>>9939072
>>9938010
Alright, I'll start making the FAQs based on STHLM's posts and the wiki.

I have this routine that has significantly reduced acne aside from some ingrown ones every once in awhile but I feel like my face is properly nourished or something.

>every morning take hot shower no soap or face wash just washing off grime with water.
>switch to cold water then use soap and face wash
>get out dry myself off with towel
>apply thayers witch hazel toner (no alcohol) with clean paper towel
>wait for face to dry, feels nice and tight like anons mum
>apply clean & clear dual action moisturizer and go on about my day.

I do the same thing every night before I sleep minus the shower. Just cold water and thayers witch. Any care to add anything else I still feel like I'm doing something wrong.

>>9939370
fuck i meant
*feel like my face ISNT properly nourished

Are there any foods that help with acne? Which nutrients should i eat more of?

Your favourite site is back.
http://www.reddit.com/r/SkincareAddiction/wiki/sca_routine

here's my routine that works well for me, was fiddling with stuff a while ago and finally found a routine that really works for me

am:
rinse well with water (with cleanser if I was sweating in my sleep)
moisturizer (not sunscreen 'cause do you think I go outside?)

pm:
- cerave moisturizing cleanser http://amazon.com/dp/B000YJ2SKM
- neutrogena acne wash http://amazon.com/dp/B0014CU0SA
- chemichal exfoliant (usu only on nose/cheekbone area)
- pat dry
- cetaphil moisturizing cream http://amazon.com/dp/B00113HNB4

think I got the cetaphil at costco for like 10 bucks, also if you're really that poor you can get the dollar store equivalent of the neutrogena acne wash at the dollar store, they're both 2% salicylic acid so they basically do the same thing (and I've used both it's fine). acne washes are pretty drying so make sure to moisturize~
http://dollartree.com/p346502/index.pro

http://picoprince.com/post/92276170731

i also like this guy's kawaii guides

I suffered all of high school with major acne, now in college I've beaten the acne but am left with scars from acne and skating like a faggot, any product recs for facial scars ?

>>9939569
wow do average women actually do all this daily?

>>9939400
I think with food it's more of what you shouldn't eat. Chocolate and oily foods will definitely cause acne. Pizza, potato chips, etc should be avoided. Eating more vegetables never hurt anybody.

>>9939612
no definitely not, this shit doesnt even make much difference the only person i know who does this still has spots

>>9939612
it's just the asian style of nightly routine, in a very general sense, not everyone does all of this every day but the average asian night routine is probably longer than the average "western" one

really the key elements are cleaning, exfoliating, and moisturizing, just doing that'll get you far, the other stuff is just to help, or in case the big 3 can't get everything for you.

Does anyone here have an opinion on Witch Hazel? How/When should I use it?

I just copped all this. I have pretty good skin and have never had a problem but I want to get a routine going.

>>9940081
good, don't go overboard with the masque though.

>>9939990
Most people use it as a toner, as it's said to have astringent properties. So I'd guess after washing, wait for it to dry and then apply moisturiser. I used to use a Boots one but it didn't really do much, it's an extra step in your routine so if it helps go ahead, if not, I wouldn't bother.
>>9939612
They don't, but the ones who are really desperate and/or obsessed with looking pretty might. Alternatively some of the ones who do all that find it relaxing, kind of like a spa treatment, which I can understand and get behind.
>>9939400
Not a food technically but I've heard zinc supplements can improve your hair, skin and nails.
>>9937822
PC is good but overpriced, only worth it during sales imo. Bravura London, Alpha Hydrox and sr-skincare are some cheaper brands you can try. Mizon (Korean) has an 8% AHA serum too, I'm using it atm and it's gentler than PC Daily Resist 5% AHA despite the higher concentration. Doesn't sting.

>>9940123
Is witch hazel okay to keep on for 10 minutes then wash off? I don't like the smell and I put on benzyl peroxide for acne afterwards.

>>9940139
As far as I know, sure. Usually people let it dry then apply whatever else they have.

>>9940157
Thanks for the help! Honestly I don't see it doing too much, but it's cheap and it makes my skin soft so I'll just do that then.

>>9939370
I'd try switching the moisturiser to something more heavy duty. Something in any of those products could also be breaking you out. Apply moisturiser in the evening as well, of course. To begin with.

I also wouldn't use both soap and face wash. Ditch the soap, it might be (and I'm almost certain it is) what's drying your face out in the first place. Just use face wash, see that the pH of it is between 3 and 5,6. But for the beginning, ditch the soap.

Also instead of paper towels you can try using your clean hands or a cotton pad. They're gentler.

Also try washing your face only in the evening, and using lukewarm (not hot) water in the morning. As it is you're basically going through a 'how to dry out your skin' checklist and doing all the things you shouldn't be doing.

See how it goes and report the results, cheers!

My holy trinity.

>>9936805
Pores cannot open nor close. They can get bigger when debris gathers inside, expanding them, or by being poked and picked at extensively. Once that happens it's nearly impossible to shrink them back, or so I've heard.

>>9939161
B A S E D
A
S
E
D

let me know if you need help structuring things
I haven't written the stuff as a literal guide, as some of the stuff are replies to individual comments.

>>9940081
nice.
I would focus on 1. sunscreen in the morning, and 2. moisturizer at night, and then cleanser once-twice daily depending on dryness/acne.

>>9940185
gold fucking star m80

>>9940186
I take it it works well, then? BP levels optimal.

>>9940234
"Official" thread maker here. Proposed heading for each thread:

"FAQ:
Recommended products and applications: http://pastebin.com/XeBKDSMZ
Dark circles: http://pastebin.com/t796eKvr
Soap, pH, irritants, and synthetic detergents: http://pastebin.com/51yse1NE
Popping pimples: http://pastebin.com/MufDiSfy
Post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation: http://pastebin.com/GXYPdwMf
Skin tone and diet: http://pastebin.com/kVdWUy0Y
Causes of acne: http://pastebin.com/tudaKWmN

Wiki:
Skin care basics: http://tuxbell.com/index.php?title=Grooming#Skin-care_Basics
Acne treatment: http://tuxbell.com/index.php?title=Grooming#Acne_Treatment

Any other resources to add in here would be largely appreciated!"

How does this look? If there's a need to add more resources, just type it up here and I'll put it in a pastebin :)

>>9940252
Perhaps a few words on sunscreen (physical and chemical), retinols, exfoliation, vitamin C? Those are usually the things people find most confusing.

>>9940201
Wow, didn't know that. The whole common knowledge thing must be BS. Thanks for the info!

>>9940201
>>9940272
Huh.

I just googled it and found this, seems not-wrong I guess.
Makes sense to me.

https://www.birchbox.com/magazine/article/skin-pores-myths-and-facts

If you have a stubborn pimple take a couple ibuprofen & dab some anti bacterial ge on it at night. Place a bandaid(or not) and it should go down

With the exception of a good daily moisturizer I would say no to any topicals and certain bizarre remedies you read about online. JUst keep it back to the basics.

Basically if your skin is fucked you may have crazy hormonal issues.

Try no fap for at least 3 months
Go to the gym and push yourself until your sweating considerably


Or you may have certain mineral deficiencies that are resulting in bad skin.

Try a good branded bio available zinc supplement and up the dosage a little.
Or if you want to go full on, get a hair mineral analysis and see what the fuck is happening inside you. This is a real long winded approach but can cure a lot of ailments

Another factor too consider is your organs are shit. In particular anything that filters what goes in your body.

Try doing a liver cleanse naturally with milk thistle or perhaps taking it one step further and doing a liver cleanse, with olive oil. That second one is intense but has proven results.

Thirdly, as a few people have already stated, diet. Whatever goes in your body has a large influence on how you look. Try cut out all sugar, if you are young this will be near impossible as your body likes having surges of energy for the stupid shit you like doing.
Besides that, try cut down on chocolate and foods high in copper, things like mushrooms and organ meats, this disturbs the zinc / copper ratio and can result in poor skin.

Lifestyle

If you look at someone who has acne, watch them for 2 minutes, guaranteed they will start touching their skin. This only further spreads the problem by irritating the skin

Keep up good hygiene but not too the point where its weird, just wash everyday and have fresh stuff more often then not.

Some different remedies.

Betonite clay mask

Has been used for hundreds of years to remove impurities from the skin, words like a charm, I know.

>>9940282
these other two things also say similar things so looks like that checks out

http://www.besthealthmag.ca/best-looks/skin/myths-and-truths-about-your-pores#BzlSPUtabs2SHrJh.97

yeah boi we readin' howstuffworks now
http://health.howstuffworks.com/skin-care/cleansing/myths/pores-in-hotter-water.htm

>>9940272
np m8, it's a common mistake
>>9940293
>>9940282
For minimising the appearance of pores and getting rid of sebaceous filaments (the things on your nose people often confuse with blackheads, and which never go away for good) the Queen Helene mask up there is actually a good solution. Other methods include oil cleansing (removing dirt and grime by massaging oil into your face, but don't use just any oil as it can make matters worse), BHAs and so on. Personally I've found that the QH mask works best, but you may have a different experience with it.

But yeah, you can't actually shrink them (unfortunately!).
>>9940270
whoops, forgot to include links
http://www.skinacea.com/retinoids/retinoids.html
http://www.skinacea.com/sunscreen/sunscreen.html
http://www.skinacea.com/how-to/get-rid-of-dark-circles.html
Good site, plenty of useful stuff.

>>9940308
I really only have annoying sebaceous filaments on my nose area, and i just use a chemical exfoliant on them every night / every two nights

I don't know what kind of exfoliant it is, however, because I don't read japanese and i didn't know what i was doing when i was buying this stuff.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001ABLKK2/

if you or anyone knows that'd be great lol, all i know is that it works

my skin scars quite easily and takes a while to fade, i've pretty much got over acne but ive still got some mild PIH that shows up in some lighting, been using AHA for quite a while and it's kinda underwhelming (tried both AHA and alpha hydrox)

drink copious amounts of water/eat a metric ton of fruit/have a physically demanding job that I get exercise from so don't tell me mom science please I just want a product

>>9940357
Have you tried a stronger concentration of AHA? Do you wear sunscreen? Does your moisturiser contain vitamin E (it should)?
>>9940328
It doesn't contain any chemical exfoliants so it must be a gommage - basically a fancy way to say 'gel that pills easily'. In other words, you rub the skin after applying, which removes the dead skin cells, and the gel pills up and helps gather them up inside the little balls, if that makes sense. Another product that does this is The Face Shop's papaya exfoliating gel, and that one might be cheaper in case you want to try something new when you run out.

>>9940270
>>9940308
Alright, added the skinacea links to the resource list.

>>9940357
->
>>9910304

Is STHLM graduating soon? :333

>>9940435
oh neat, so that's how it works

and yeah i'm about to run out, are you talking about this stuff?

http://www.amazon.com/The-Face-Shop-Peeling-Papaya/dp/B00BKOXBR4

>>9940946
That's the one!

(Sorry, on mobile)

>>9941688
word thanks it just so happens that I'm going to drive by a The Face Shop tomorrow

what an awkward sentence...

>>9940252
very nice. thank you for doing this.

I'm now more motivated to put together something a bit more serious. I'll might put together a public Google doc. Even if I don't, I'll probably patch up the stuff we already have.

It gets really hot in here, and my face usually sweats. By the end of the day i tend to have oily skin. It's really annoying. Plus i tend to have more pimples (because of that, i guess)

Any tips for skincare in the summer? Any tips for staying "fresh" when you go out?

>>9940435
>Does your moisturiser contain vitamin E (it should)?

No it shouldn't. Vitamin E supplemented orally can increase vitamin E levels in skin cells, but topical applications of vitamin E doesn't improve skin health or look and doesn't protect against oxidative damage. Applying vitamin E to skin can cause redness, and applying it to broken skill slows healing. (http://examine.com/supplements/Vitamin+E#summary15-0))

Recommended (and proven) options for skin quality are polypodium leucotomos (7.5mg/kg bodyweight) and vitamin A.

Remember these are supplements, and are recommended in addition to good diet, water, sleep and exercise.

>>9942833
it can only cause redness in some people with particular allergies or sensitivities (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22828256)) and if used along with niacinimide. What you say about broken skin is true but we must remember that this is not your skin's normal condition.

Here's more about beneficial properties of vitamin E:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1524-4725.2005.31724/abstract
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8313238
https://www.ethz.ch/en/news-and-events/eth-news/news/2015/04/ironing-out-oxidative-stress.html
http://www.paulaschoice.com/cosmetic-ingredient-dictionary/definition/vitamin-e

In conclusion, it's a bad idea to use vita E with *scars*, but it's not useless in general.

And here's more about taking vit E supplements orally:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2013/10/07/the-top-five-vitamins-you-should-not-take/

Help please :(

So last year I had severe acne. Like super severe.
I tried literally everything.

One day I just said fuck it and stopped washing my face. And for some reason my acne cleared almost entirely.

2 things:

Still have a lot of black heads, how to get rid of them?

Also, I luckily don't have any scars, but red pigment spots of former pimples that don't seem to go away. What can I do?

>>9944190
You seemed to have posted a question without actually reading the thread.

Look here for answers.>>9940252

>>9944208
True, I haven't.
Thanks for the info though

>>9944208
Breh, this one isn't available anymore
>Skin tone and diet: http://pastebin.com/kVdWUy0Y (embed)

>>9944213
for the comedones:
>>9933091

probably post-inflammatory erythema (red), as opposed to post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation (brown).

info about that in the linked posts.

>>9944223
look
>>9910314

>>9944246
I love you, thanks

>>9933675
drink amalaki :)

>>9944223
Hmm, that's weird. I now have it reuploaded.
http://pastebin.com/xSmtegXP

Can I do anything about slight greasiness/enlarged pores? I rarely get whiteheads now but I just got innumerable blackheads on nose and a few on forehead. You can't really notice until you get close, but I would like to have them gone.

Also, how the fuck do I even out a farmer's tan if my job puts me outside in a t shirt 40 hours a week?

>>9944459
take off your shirt

are scars /fa/?

Who /bodyacne/ here?

I honestly dont give a flying fuck about my face anymore because my chest, back and shoulders are so horrendous.

>>9944532
the country club has rules, pleb

>>9944567
dr bronners bar soap cured my bacne

During my night routine I've used stridex pads first, let the salicylic acid work for about 15 minutes, then cleanse face and I think I'm noticing a positive difference (I don't use them in the morning)

Is this how to correctly use them?

>>9945005
great that you're seeing a positive difference
but the stridex goes on after the cleanser

>ctrl + f isotretinoin
>no results

Seriously. If you want to get rid of your acne, get yourself an rx for that stuff. BPO also works for some people but it bleaches the shit out of your non-white shirts and sheets unless you're careful to the point of obsessive compulsion.

Moisturizers and exfoliating gels can be worth it but my experience has been that they'll do very little to someone suffering from chronic acne - they're more something you use to make ok-ish skin look good, not something you use to make shit-tier skin look ok.

>Shaving bumps
TendSkin Solution did it for me. Used to have really bad razorburn for years but thanks to that stuff, it's (almost) completely gone (I /very/ occasionally get a single matte-red spot on my neck but even then it's pretty much negligible). Safety razors help too though aren't strictly necessary in my experience (I can't use 'em myself for medical reasons - even a small cut can get p. nasty for me).

>>9942855
Damn, served

>>9947073
>TendSkin
For anyone using this shit, try to only use it on areas where you actually get razor burn. dont coat your entire face in it. its really harsh, it smells like shit and its full of alcohol, which is bad
>because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look old

>>9944459
are you sure they're blackheads? If they're all over your nose they're probably sebaceous filaments like >>9936776 says he has.

You can use like a gentler exfoliant on them every day to reduce their appearance but you can't get rid of them permanently, and squeezing t hem out is a great way to permanently enlarge a pore or two and that's not reversible

>>9937116
This stuff is great, I highly recommend it!

>>9947073
>Shaving bumps
unless you have a job that forces you to shave with a blade I see no issue with buzzing your facial hair off. no bumps, looks fine, no dryness. I haven't taken a blade to my face in years

>>9945761
I'll adjust, ty anon :)

Dont let this thread die.

>>9949842
ok~

Yesterday I picked this up from The Face Shop in the local Koreatown
http://www.amazon.com/The-Face-Shop-Peeling-Papaya/dp/B00BKOXBR4

Gonna try it out in a bit, consider this my bump.

>>9950052
oh also I can't wait to try out all these samples and rub some white seed on my face, forgot to mention that

>>9933675
>mfw never had acne and hear people bitch about it all the time

>>9950546
Even if you don't have acne your skin could be unhealthy, damaged, uncleared, etc. that's what these threads are about, not just acne. No need to flame anon that's poor form

>>9950546
Also if you're not offering receiving or needing advice your trip is unessecary.

Any tips to fix my acne? Help especially needed for the scars. How severe is it on a scale of 1-10?

>>9936214
Can you remove scars with laser treatment?

>>9950661
accutane, now.

>>9936315
>>9936325
>>9936424
>>9936432
DO NOT listen to this guy! Exfoliating the shit our of your face WILL NOT cure your acne, the only thing it will do is severely sensitise and redden your face. Bar cetaphil is much worse for your face than the liquid cleanser, because it requires a lather which is always inconsistant and is not water-based. A bar soap is only good for your body; your face is way too sensitive on its own.
You need to begin and religiously follow a skincare regime which begins and ends with a cold splash of water. Use a mild cleanser (I recommend DERMALOGICA's sébium cleanser [~$37 for 500ml on eBay]) followed immediately by an all-in-one moisturiser which caters for your skin type (oily, dry, combination - find out which)(I recommend Cetaphil's DermaControl Moisturizer SPF 30 - which controls both oily and dry skin as well as catering for sensitive and acne-affected skin, in addition it contains sunscreen above an SPF value of 15 which is VITAL for better looking skin).
If needed - and in your case, probably wanted - see a dermatologist (duh) and have them prescribe a daily product like EryAcne which is ethanol-based and goes under your moisturiser and helps acne control over the day.
Also, be sure to drink 2 litres of water a day. Take a photo of your face before you begin drinking this much water daily and then another photo two weeks later - I promise you that you'll look like a completely different person.
Finally, at night time you should be doing the above and including also a topical cream which contains benzoyl peroxide and clindamycin (presciption based, most likely [I recommend DUAC])
Sources; I am a 4th year dermatologist and have pretty damn good skin (the occasional pimple is unavoidable)

so washing your face with soap is bad? damn mom you bitch you've been lying to me my whole life

>>9936315
>>9936325
>>9936424
>>9936432
DO NOT listen to this guy! Exfoliating the shit our of your face WILL NOT cure your acne, the only thing it will do is severely sensitise and redden your face. Bar cetaphil is much worse for your face than the liquid cleanser, because it requires a lather which is always inconsistant and is not water-based. A bar soap is only good for your body; your face is way too sensitive on its own.
You need to begin and religiously follow a skincare regime which begins and ends with a cold splash of water. Use a mild cleanser (I recommend DERMALOGICA's sébium cleanser [~$37 for 500ml on eBay]) followed immediately by an all-in-one moisturiser which caters for your skin type (oily, dry, combination - find out which)(I recommend Cetaphil's DermaControl Moisturizer SPF 30 - which controls both oily and dry skin as well as catering for sensitive and acne-affected skin, in addition it contains sunscreen above an SPF value of 15 which is VITAL for better looking skin).
If needed - and in your case, probably wanted - see a dermatologist (duh) and have them prescribe a daily product like EryAcne which is ethanol-based and goes under your moisturiser and helps acne control over the day.
Also, be sure to drink 2 litres of water a day. Take a photo of your face before you begin drinking this much water daily and then another photo two weeks later - I promise you that you'll look like a completely different person.
Finally, at night time you should be doing the above and including also a topical cream which contains benzoyl peroxide and clindamycin (presciption based, most likely [I recommend DUAC])
Sources; I am a 4th year dermatologist and have pretty damn good skin (the occasional pimple is unavoidable)

>>9951166
>>9951217
Ignore my double post, I am definitely serious.

>>9951187
Washing your face with any bar soap is horrible and drying for your facial skin, use a mild cleanser during or after showering (my recommendation is above) followed my a moisturiser which caters for your skin type (again, above)

>>9950661
Severity; 6-7. I have seen far worse.

>>9951079
Some countries do not have accutane as a readily available prescription medication. On that, simply using accutane will not prevent acne entirely, a good skincare regime is also vital.

>>9950661
It's been mentioned a couple times in this thread that Salicylic Acid at 1%-2% can help control acne and acne scars. It works by unclogging pores and breaking down the oils around/in the pores. It will also shed layers of skin and promote the growth of new cells.

Your daily regiment should be:
-Morning: Face wash -> Sunscreen
-Night: Face Wash -> Salicylic Acid (1%-2%) -> Moisturizer.

Scroll up to find a list of products that would be good for your skin.

>>9950974
Yes. Also with a Salicylic Acid treatment or a chemical peel.

>>9951217
Everyone should read this.

>>9951187
Bar soap is almost always Alkaline and your skin should always be mildly acidic to prevent bacterial growth that causes acne.

>>9947957
Using an electric shaver is usually very drying to the skin and also can cause inflammatory responses due to micro-blades constantly passing over the skin at many times a second. They almost 'chop' the skin at fine angles and can cause small cuts in the skin which can lead to razer bumps (ingrown hair follicles). In my experience, patients which I treat for razer bumps typically benefit from switching to a more traditional style of shaving which allows for a closer shave (or not so close if you only shave with the grain - and only one pass over) and also a fewer amount of passes with any sort of blade overall. Be sure to use plenty of moisturising shaving foam and, if possible, a shaving oil base (I recommend Old Taylor of Bond Street Aromatherapy/Sandalwood [depending on whether your skin is sensitive or not, respectively]).

>>9951217
why the fuck would "starting and ending with a cold splash of water" do anything. Sounds stupid as shit. If anything starting with cold water would prevent the emulsification of the lipids on your skin and make cleansing more difficult. Tepid/warm water the whole way.

>>9951292
He didnt say use an electric razer, he said buzz facial hair. As in, using a trimmer to leave a short stubble. It prevents in growns and means that the blade doesnt actually come into contact with the skin

>>9951306
I agree with your thoughts on it limiting the ability to breakdown the oils, however, cold water after leaves my skin less dry. It's just what works for me.

>>9951217
>Also, be sure to drink 2 litres of water a day.
Imho this isn't necessarily a good thing.

Drinking so much water will flush out electrolytes in your blood, one being salt. Salt is responsible for water retention in your body/face

Flushing salt out will indirectly take water away from your face. It could help remove junk food shit that cause acne yeah but it'll also cause dryness, withered look. This was the case with me anyway

IV fluids show this theory. Ideal fluids for your skin with the balance of water and salt that the body best reacts to. Stay in a hospital and check how clear, full, bright and balanced your face looks. I use an IV when on a hang over/coming off a buzz and my face also looks amazing after

Two cents anyway pic semi related

>>9951306
>>9951311
Beginning with a cold splash of water 'wakes up' the skin - especially in the morning. Once you begin the process of cleansing; however, you should be using lukewarm/warm water as you said. Finishing with the splash of water closes your pores so as to prevent any dust/dirt/grime from entering them over the course of the day/night; however, it will not stop moisturisers from penetrating the skin.

>>9951309
Fair enough, I assumed he meant using this sort of thing (pic related - they are horrible for your skin)

Youre all retarded. Want to look great?
1. Accutane
2. Moisturize on accutane
3. Drink water (dont fucking ask how much just drink it fucking faggot)
4. Be off accutane
5. don't be a nigger and rub lard on your face every night

THE 5 SIMPLE STEPS TO A BEAUTIFUL FACE. If you can't do those, kill yourself immediately.

>>9951315
The only reason one might think that electrolytes are flushed from the system (urination) is because you are undertaking this more frequently. In fact, the urine which is excreted is more so diluted compared to regular urine (which explains the typical loss of colour) and, as such, contains the same amount of electrolytes as the typical urine - just in a different concentration.
The people I am attempting to cater to would not be athletes - they are more typical people (specifically, teenagers) and would almost certainly be consuming junk food on a regular basis - which, combined with an increased level of hormones...you know the rest.

>>9951364
Have fun getting melanoma in your 50s without consistent utilisation of a sunscreen with an SPF value of 15 or upwards.

>>9951251
>>9951079
>>9951273
I've been using tretinoin gel at 0.01% for around 6 months, haven't noticed that much of a change honestly. Currently have been using Clearasil Daily Clear Hydra Blast every day and night for 1.5 weeks, it is 2% salicylic acid.
I feel accutane might be a little extreme, maybe I should just have them increase the percentage of tretinoin?

>>9951376
I hope to already be dead before my 50s

>>9951337
>I'm a 4th year dermatology student
>Finishing with the splash of water closes your pores

Where the fuck are you doing to college? Nigeria? Pores don't open and close.

hey /fa/. Because of my shitty acne, I'm gonna be going on accutane soon. Probably a couple weeks. Anyone got any tips on what I can be doing while I'm on the drug to make sure it works as fast as possible (other than exercise, drinking water etc).
Also, any tips on a good skincare routine for post-treatment. Though I've tried a few different products and know not to wash too much, and to moisturise, I'm not really sure of much else, like what toners do or how often to exfoliate. I really want to maintain good skin after this treatment. Having bad skin is hell

>>9951720
Make sure you have the tablets with a meal that has fat in. It sounds stupid but it makes a massive difference in the absorption of the meds.

Make sure you get a good mousturizer and prepare to go through a lot of lip balm. Find a good one. Also try to take some sort of oil supplement it dries out your joints while youre on it

>>9951315
How would one go about using intravenous at home as a hangover cure?

Skin Pleb here want comments on how shitty my skin routine is.
Bulldogs Facial Scrub, Face Wash and Moisturiser twice a day every 12 hours in that order.
Shave using razor every other day whilst in the bath using either a foam or gel (usually foam)
And Zineryt Lotion each night before I go to bed.

How badly am I sabotaging my skin?

Part 1:
>moisturize after taking a hot shower, even if your skin isn't dry it still helps your skin age better. If your skin is dry do not use your own saliva. Nivea has good moisturizers for men.

>same applies with if you have dry lips, don't lick your lips it makes them worse, use vaseline.

>if you are a guy use makeup remover wipes to remove excess oils etc off skin (helps with acne etc) do it at night and morning, Nivea do them cheap, but there good.

>if you have blackheads use stuff from 'Jericho' its expensive but it words wonders. If you dont have much cash just use Face scrub from Nivea.

>After shaving get a shaving balm, this helps put good oils back into your skin to keep it, prevent in-grown hairs and redness.

Part 2:
>Eating cashew nuts or any other type of nut helps clear your skin, but be careful and dont eat too many.

>Water is essential to general skincare, its good at removing redness and sometimes oily skin, this doesn't mean drink 1 bottle of water a day. This means drinking 1 or 2 litres of water a day; you should notice and feel the difference after a week or two.

>If you are have a monobrow pluck it, DO NOT shave it, shaving it will make the hairs grow in quicker and thicker also in larger quantities.

>If you do have acne try changing your pillow sheet every night, usually does work.

>For acne on your back. Don't wear the same t-shirt twice, change your bed sheet every night and spend at least 5 mins in the shower washing it with a shower gel or scrub.

>Try and not buy skin products with alcohol in it as alcohol dries up your skin.

>>9951720
I saw this randomly browsing but I use to have moderate-severe acne and now I keep it at bay. I also went through Accutane myself in highschool but the acne lingered into college at a much lesser severity.

DCL Oily Skin Solution 8 (Even if you don't have oily skin) to exfoliate and slush off dead skin. I do this morning and night.

Epiduo Benzoyl Peroxide (VERY DRYING) primarily for spot treatment, a very light film works. I do this only at night after exfoliating.

After some hours pass, I'll put on DCL Labs Profoundly Effective A (Works kind of like Retin-A) and this works wonders on my complexion and how even my tone is.

Lastly, right after the lotion, I use Kiehl's Midnight Concentrate. This is the cherry on top and just like Profoundly Effective A, will give you a nice smooth feel to your skin and it won't feel rough. I use to have rough, dry skin.

I hope this helps, I barely post on /fa/ but just happened to see your post and know you feels. Good luck; you probably shouldn't use this shit though if you're going on Accutane. Just be prepared for Accutane; you'll dry up so bad and you'll want to crawl into a cave until it's over.

Hair washing:
>should wash your hair once every day or two days. Every day if you have greasy hair.

>shampoo line from 'aussie' is literally god tier. If you dont have money to spend go for tresemme or elvive

>If you have naturally greasy hair do not use pomade as it will end up making it worse.

wtf happened to the thread, lol

this kind of chaos is quite pleasant though compared to the kind we used to have

v nice to see people actively bumping. very nice.

>>9952828
STHLM - any other things in the thread that you think I should save for the FAQ? The stuff that kierian and other posters above seem pretty nice, but I just want to confirm that the info is all accurate (I'm holding you as the most knowledgeable person about skin here!).

>>9952326
Get the stuff and do it? If you don't know how don't bother, but if yolo then wash hands, saline into lock, dilate, sterilize, insert needle, wait for blood, back out of catheter, tape loop, connect bag

>>9933675
Healthy food gives healthy skin, cut down on the shitty fatty foods and your skin will follow. Take some B vitamins like brewers yeast.

>>9952695
Stop using a physical scrub. Cut that shit out right now. If you're exfoliating do only a few times a week, and doing that twice a day is beyond terrible for your skin. If you need to exfoliate look into a chemical exfoliant, or at least use a peeling gel or a konjac sponge for physical exfoliant. You really should also be applying sunscreen on a daily basis.

>>9952822
If someone has long hair, they should be washing it at most every other day. Short hair with bangs should be washed more often, but with longer hair it's far healthier to skip a few days in between.

>>9952974
but the face was and Moisturiser twice a day is fine?

What to do with these dark as fuck under eyes. I'm only 25 ...

>>9951550
As I have said, I cater to a general teenage audience and use terms which are easily understandable. Just like early-year Bio students will be told that Auxins (A type of plant hormone) 'move' from one side of a stem depending on light presence where in actual fact, auxins disperse unevenly which inhibits grows of the tip on one side, they do not physically move from one side of the stem to the other.
Pores do not necessarily open and close, the skin itself is stretched or more relaxed depending on a number of environmental factors. The overall elasticity of the skin contributes to how large pores appear to the human eye. So, while I did say that using cold water to end the cleansing phase 'closes' pores, in actual fact, it is the skin itself which tightens or loosens.

>>9951720
If you're going to go on accutane, do understand that a consistent skincare regime is vital for the best possible results. I have already explained a general skincare routine for acne-suffers above (the post begins with 'DO NOT' - hence my next point)

>>9952812
This may have worked to cure this guys acne, but your skin will be different. While exfoliation is definitely a necessary step in general skincare, it is not to be undertaken more than once or twice a week. Scrubbing the bejesus out of your skin is unhealthy and can lead to some serious skincare problems like craters which are usually unable to fixed except by laser treatment.
I guarantee that is this person has continued to do this for some time, his skin is still bad.

dont forget to take into consideration what general stress and emotional stress can do to your skin
i remember once i got out of high school my skin problems were just about almost gone
now im a rising junior in uni and my skin is almost as bad as my senior year of hs cause of constant emotional distress revolving around certain situations
honestly i hardly care about scars anymore, youll never see me with a whitehead in public because i pop every pimple i get. even though technically the acne is bad, it looks much better cause i pop it and still regurly wash my face and shit.
however i have moderate bacne and chest acne since uni started and i never had that problem in hs or middle school

at this point im ready to go to the doctor to get some prescriptions, whatever i can. acne is literally just about the only thing about my physical appearence that bothers me. life would be so much better without it.

>>9952695
>>9952974
Most of what this guy has said is true. Use an exfoliant once or twice a week and sunscreen every single day.
I would seriously recommend that when you do exfoliate, do it at night time. Doing a quick Google search, the scrub you use appears to be just fine; it uses natural oils and shea butter, which are all great for sensitive or normal skin.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a physical exfoliant containing micro-bead or such. However, if you have more sensitive than normal skin I would certainly recommend the use of a chemical exfoliant containg AHAs and/or BHAs which exfoliate without the use of physical items.

Onto the order in which you conduct your skincare. Ideally, you should cleanse your skin to begin with before moving onto exfoliating (only once or twice a week) and then finishing with your moisturiser. The 'Face Wash' that you use should be pH-balanced and aim to atone for your specific skin type (oily, dry or combination - find out)(my recommendation for oily/combination skin is listed in a previous post of mine). Your razor needs be something which is catered to the face; do not use disposable razors on the face - they are designed for one-use on the skin (underarms, chest, arms and legs, typically) but are far too abrasive for the face. You need to use a moisturising shaving gel or foam (I would recommend a generic brand like Nivea's Original Moisturising Shaving Foam or, if you have more sensitive skin, Tend Skin's Shaving Gel) combined with a razor which is best suited to you (Straight razors are best for sensitive skin and require fewer pass overs to achieve the closest shave).
Finally, if you do the above skincare regime for around 1-2 months and find that your skin is no different, switch to a different topical cream for your face as well as a spot-treatment for any unsightly blemishes. I recommend the use of a cream or gel which contains Benzoyl Peroxide and Clindamycin which are effective at the overall reduction...

>>9953461
(cont.)... of acne. For spot treatment, you may need to see a dermatologist who can prescribe spot treatments of high concentration to readily remove upcoming spots. For now, you can make use of a product containing Tea Tree Oil (which is a natural disinfectant) or simply 100% Tea Tree Oil (Essential Oils), applying nightly using a Q-tip prior to your topical cream.

>>9951720
like >>9951757 said lip balm is muy importante

Nivea and Burts Bees have some nice stuff, way better than Chapstick brand.
The two I alternate between are these two.
http://www.burtsbees.com/Refreshing-Lip-Balm-with-Pink-Grapefruit/01450-00,default,pd.html?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AWRH8HY/

They have ones that are less fruity and obvious, but I like my lip balms hella gay and fruity.

>>9953461
according the ingredients list for the facial scrub he mentioned the first two are pumice and coconut shell. Those two are incredibly abrasive and will damage your skin in the long run, not to mention make you more prone to acne. Microbeads are gentle enough to be used as exfoliant but it's honestly a dickish thing to buy because that shit's awful for the environment and is getting banned in a bunch of states anyways. I definitely do agree with exfoliating at night time however.

>>9953002
Yeah, it's fine. Aside from the routine listed out by the guy above, I would only additionally mention that I've had really good results from using hydrocolloid bandages on pre-existing pimples.

>>9952808
>>If you are have a monobrow pluck it, DO NOT shave it, shaving it will make the hairs grow in quicker and thicker also in larger quantities

Now I can't trust anything you say.

>>9950546
>shit-tier reaction pics
please kill yourself and drop trip you fucking herb

>>9953749
not him btw

microbeads are why I'm not a fan of most physical exfoliants but dayum, coconut shell and pumice too?
can you hit me with some links or something?
I got this 'cause I need to exfoliate after I shave my neck else I get crazy ingrowns
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004IX45GK
Has both pumice and coconut shell :'(

>>9953862
ikr? lol

>>9953218
>that
>dark as fuck
hoo boy

>>9953917
me btw. It's not? I seriously look like I've been clocked in the face in both eyes, at least to me.

Also the darkness might go but my other issue with them is those small bumps underneath. It's almost like a rash but it's permanently there. Pretty sure they aren't 'milia' or whatever people call them bumps. Any ideas?

>>9951393
I use used tretinoin for 5 months with no results. A month ago I started accutane and my face is basically clear

How to fix uneven eyelids??

>>9952883
well, I haven't had time to read through all the thread, but:

the advice by Oooo and yoke is generally legit.

kierian has posted tips that are both right and wrong.

>>9954121
you poor thing

google "ptosis surgery"

alright yo, what's a basic routine that will make acne go away? what should i buy, i already got that aztec clay shit and i've just been using neutrogena deep clean gentle scrub with the beads in em.

Take a moment to read through the thread. Your question has already been answered multiple times.

>>9955791


>>9955867
point me in the right direction?

>>9951273
>>9951217
>>9940252
Read through what I posted above. You will find everything you need and more.
>>9956352

I bought some knock off makeup wipes and used them and the skin under my right eye became extremely red & sensitive. The next morning when I woke up these lines appeared, and the whole area in general is very dry & scabby. What the fuck + how do I get rid of this.

>>9956523
What kind of makeup wipes do you usually use? What kind of makeup do you wear?

>>9956523
This may just be dry skin that's causing it to bunch like this.

Use a moisturizer twice a day under your eyes. Something that's meant for sensitive areas though. It should help the dryness and cause it to go back to normal.

Of course, don't use those makeup wipes anymore.

>>9956523
that is periorbital edema and other stuff. that is why you have gotten all those lines around the eye. it appears to be alleric contact dermatitis to something in the remover.

discontinue use. moisturizer to deal with scaling/dryness. contact doctor tomorrow if it hasn't gone down. later on... find out what you're allergic to by doing clinical allergen patch tests.

>>9956728
2 things to add... 1, I'm not joking around. that is an allergic reaction to the eye.
2, save the product that caused the conditition in order to help you find out what you are allergic to

anyone have any tips for making nose pores smaller or is that just how noses look?

African Black soap - helps with skin
Indian face clay - once every 2 weeks
egg whites - once a week

drink water. eat well. workout.

>>9956976
Bumping this for similar interest

>>9956976
yet another bump for more similar interest

>>9956976
Those are blackheads. You want to use a blackhead scrub and then an astringent to close the pores.

>>9956976
These are not blackheads. These are sebaceous filaments. If I'm not mistaken, everyone has them to some degree. Your face naturally produces an oily substance called sebum. This clogs your pores if you don't clesn your face regularly. However, your nose will constantly "regrow" those. You can use blackheads strips or a chemical exfoliant, such as salicyclic acid, to unclog them. Keep in mind though that they WILL come back.

>>9957422
these are not blackheads

see
>>9957496

you can take a gentle chemical/pilling exfoliator to it every night to lessen their appearance but you'll never 100% get rid of them
just make sure you're not using a physical exfoliator every day on your face, and don't scrape them out by hand, that will only lead to bad things

>>9956976
Pretty sure they're sebaceous filaments, not blackheads, and I've a raspberry dotted nose like that more or less, except it's not red like that because I don't touch it
I look at my dad and I blame genetics tho, the only cure is dying in your sleep

>>9933675

An accutane couse pretty much killed my persistant acne, but my face was left with some red marks/streaks (especially on my left cheek).

What can I do about them? I've been off of accutane for about 6 months now and I wear sunscreen every day. The marks got a little bit better but they're not completely gone.

>>9958128
Glad the accutane worked out for you!

As far as the red marks go, make sure to keep using that sunscreen.

These marks can take 6-12 months to completely go away. If you would like to speed up the process, use a chemical exfoliation (Salicylic Acid) once a day-followes by moisturizer. Only apply at night before you sleel.

>>9958128
look
>>9920799

>>9958140
good advice, but the redness affects the lower layers of the skin. it's blood vessels. salicylic acid wont make it better. it may irritate the area and aggravate the redness though. stick with sunscreen +30...

>>9958163
If it's redness from old acne, wouldn't it technically be the post hyperpigmentation?

Regardless, thanks for being on to correct that!

Is this a good budget beginner routine?

>>9959483

Also, what's a good way for a guy on accutine to get some colour without sun?

>>9959483
lol beginner at taking care of your skin?

what a hoot

>>9959483
Ive only ever used Cerave on your list and it's worked wonders for me.

>>9959492
You can eat a ton of carrots/tomatoes. However, a decent faketan will look surprisingly good if done correctly.

>>9959483
>spending nearly £30 on a moisturizer
>budget

>>9959492
melanotan

google it

>>9959569
I'm new to skincare :/

>>9959483
>>9959827
you did fine.

>>9959871
Any good stuff for the get rid of sebum ?

>>9959871
The cleanser abd the exfoliant is pretty good right? It's just the spf moisturiser that's to expensive.

I've been looking around on Amazon, is The Body Shop vitamin c moisturiser spf 30 any good? It says it doesn't look greasy and the added vitamin c is a plus, if it works and isn't just a body shop gimmick.

Ok guys, im getting a bit too overwelmed with this. I have acne, im 28, its not very agressive but still annoying. My face gets oily over the course of the day. Tell me a good routine to take, on a decent budget plz. Everyone talking about a shit ton of products, im getting confused.

>>9960420
pls respond

>>9937116
>>9947927
how often do you guys use this?

Vitamin C serum and tretinoin 0.025% gel

How and where do I fit this into my routine which includes cleansing, exfoliating, moisturizing, salicyilc acid (not all at once or in this order)?

>>9960849
And shaving in the AM as well (male)

>>9959881
>>9960420
>>9960476

These questions have been answered multiple time already.

>>9959881
http://www.paulaschoice.com/expert-advice/oily-skin/_/very-oily-skin

Quick bit of advice for water intake

Don't chug, your GI tract won't be able to process it all at once, you'll pee it out

Have a timer that alerts you ever 10 minutes throughout your waking hours, when the timer goes off, sip about a tablespoon of water, like if you're sipping a bit of too hot soup

You'll find that you'll go through the recommended ~2 liters per day without peeing it all out

>>9961380
All this product shit is such bullshit unless there's a dire medical need, fix your diet, fix your hygiene, fix your living habits, and you'll find acne goes away very quickly

>>9936356
this

>>9959483
Really, that sunscreen/moisturizer combo is mad expensive.

If you look at the price difference, google tells me 28 pounds is 43 dollars. And you can get these for less than half of that

591.5 ml,
http://www.amazon.com/Cetaphil-Moisturizing-Sensitive-Fragrance-Non-comedogenic/dp/B00113HNB4/

473.2 ml,
http://www.amazon.com/CeraVe-Moisturizing-Cream-16-Ounce/dp/B001V9SXXU/

imo it's way more cost effective to get separate moisturizers and sun screens, at least from the few that i've seen, i'm not a huge expert either but just that 97ml moisturizer seems off lol, also from what I've seen you want at least 30 or 35 spf, right?

So my skin is shit, thanks to my mom forcing me to take benzoyl peroxide at a young age before I had acne. After 4 years of using epiduo, i tried the caveman regimen recently and it worsened my skin. Recently I purchased a natural cleanser, exfoliator, moisturizer, and toner. Is there anything else I need?
Also, I don't drink soda or eat anything that could cause acne. I always eat healthily and try to exercise every day, so I'm not sure what's causing my acne

>Be a III on the fitzpatrick scale
>skin always turns to a shitty tone during summer
how do I fix this shit?
already wearing sunscreen and hats and avoiding sun as much as I can

>>9961850
Bad genes and puberty, perhaps touching your face to much and sleeping with a dirty pillow

>>9961625
I'm just afraid that if i just a seperate sunscreen my face will be to greasy

Anyone know if this is any good? It's cheap as fuck.

Btw what should I look for in a moisturiser of ingredients?

>>9962283
Pic

What is this on my face? Is it acne?

I'm 25 and this is the first time I've ever gotten these.

Also, any natural cleanser or moisturiser that you can suggest?

I'm currently using this. Should I not use facial scrub? Someone on this thread mentioned that I shouldn't be using these.

http://groceries.asda.com/asda-webstore/landing/home.shtml#/product/910000447784

>>9962238
I don't touch my face but I do sleep on my sides

>>9962382
I usually sleep on my right side and it looks noticable worse that the left

>>9962248
if your face gets super greasy then you're putting too much on, but yeah when you first apply it you will be able to feel it for a bit.

>>9962294
is this you too? This really shouldn't be too bad Nivea's a pretty decent company. I don't have any personal experience with this product tho.
worst thing that happens is it's not exactly what you wanted and you can give a quick review for your fellow /fa/ggots

>>9953913
That shit is jagged af and will cause tons of microtears in your skin, allowing all sorts of nasty shit to get in. Even if it does temporarily clear up your skin it'll accelerate aging. I'd suggest getting a facial brush like clarisonic or you can stop by sephora or something and get one you can use manually. If that's too rough I personally really like konjac sponges.

>>9956976
>>9957496
For the love of god DO NOT USE A PORE STRIP. It's fucking terrible for you and often leads to broken capillaries and leads to your pores getting even bigger. In terms of chemical exfoliants you should use a BHA (often salicylic acid, even though it's not technically a BHA), rather than an AHA. Don't pick at them. I find that using blotting papers throughout the day on the parts where you get really oily helps slow down their regrowth.

>>9960849
Use in this order: cleansing, exfoliating, salicylic acid, vitamin C serum, moisturizer, tretinoin. If you're using salicylic acid all over your face as chemical exfoliator as well as an additional exfoliation step you should really reduce the frequency per week of both as to avoid overexfoliating.

>>9962448

I'd rather buy something that's already been tested instead of taking a chance, I'm on a tight budget unfortunately :/

All right guys, how about this? It's about £10 cheaper.

>>9962568

I just discovered they can't deliver the moisturiser to Denmark :/

>tfw you go on the Goodguide website and look up the products you've been using and find out they ate harmful as fuck for your face, often containing banned ingredients

Damn it, I'm throwing this Cerave in the trash. It has a health rating of almost 0/10. Some of you should go check your shit just in case.

>>9962595
This makes me so sad. I've been using some pretty terrible products apparently.

>>9962595
>>9962608
lol nope

>a mild, soap-free cleanser, such as Cetaphil (Galderma) [...] should be applied with the fingertips and rinsed with water. A gentle moisturizer (such as CeraVe Moisturizer
(Coria)) should be applied after cleansing.

- The Diagnosis and Management of Mild to Moderate Pediatric Acne Vulgaris - Joseph B. Bikowski, MD

>CeraVe Lotion, Cream, and Cleanser (Coria Laboratories) are ceramide-dominant topical formulations that feature multi-vesicular emulsion (MVE) technology.

- CeraVe Lotion is on the list of "Recommending Topical Moisturizers: Clinical Benefits and Practical Considerations", by Practical Dermatology

>A novel ceramide based MVE skin care line (CeraVe) is also currently available and includes a hydrating cleanser, cream and lotion. Within the emulsion layers, multiple ceramides, humectants, dimethicone and ceramide precursors are incorporated.

- Recommended moisturizer in the "What's new in the medicine chest? - New options improve treatment outcomes" by James Q Del Rosso, Clinical Associate Professor of Dermatology.

Both of the main controversial ingredients - propylparaben and phenoxyethanol (both preservatives) - are among the ingredients of the lowest concentration in the product.

>The Cosmetic Ingredient Review (CIR) reviewed the safety of methylparaben, propylparaben, and butylparaben in 1984 and concluded they were safe for use in cosmetic products at levels up to 25%. Typically parabens are used at levels ranging from 0.01 to 0.3%.

The above was re-evaluated in 2005 and left unchanged.

>FDA believes that at the present time there is no reason for consumers to be concerned about the use of cosmetics containing parabens.

http://www.fda.gov/Cosmetics/ProductsIngredients/Ingredients/ucm128042.htm

Phenoxyethanol is a great preservative (and preservatives /are/ needed) compared to many other more toxic alternatives. The final concentration in the products are generally below 0.5-1%.

>>9962760

Goodguide seems way to overprotective, also who the fuck thinks about the environment when buying a moisturiser?

About that pic though, I don't know if this just me but almost all skincare products have a high rating on Amazon, people aren't very critical.

>>9962767
It depends on the kind of skincare product. The spread of review scores depends on the product type, since it's easier to fuck up certain formulations than others. Moisturizers are "safer" than, say, cleansers. I just needed a relevant pic though, the primary and most important things are the sources provided.

>>9959940
Yep. Better than most things.

>Body Shop Vitamin C Daily Moisturizer SPF 30 contains Amazonian camu camu berry, which is known to have one of the highest contents of vitamin C in nature.

K. The ascorbic acid concentration in them is at 2-3%, and then much lower in the final product. Too low to be cost-effective. They have included an ascorbic acid salt as well, though, but its absorption is lower than ordinary standard ascorbic acid. There's better stuff, both when it comes to sunscreens as well as products with ascorbic acid/vitamin C. Aim for something around 20% concentration if you give a damn.

Sunscreen suggestions here:
>>/fa/thread/S9904438#p9911428

>>9962767
It depends on the kind of skincare product. The spread of review scores depends on the product type, since it's easier to fuck up certain formulations than others. Moisturizers are "safer" than, say, cleansers. I just needed a relevant pic though, the primary and most important things are the sources provided.

>>9959940
Yep. Better than most things.

>Body Shop Vitamin C Daily Moisturizer SPF 30 contains Amazonian camu camu berry, which is known to have one of the highest contents of vitamin C in nature.

K. The ascorbic acid concentration in them is at 2-3%, and then much lower in the final product. Too low to be cost-effective. They have included an ascorbic acid salt as well, though, but its absorption is lower than ordinary standard ascorbic acid. There's better stuff, both when it comes to sunscreens as well as products with ascorbic acid/vitamin C. Aim for something around 20% concentration if you give a damn.

Sunscreen suggestions here:
>>/fa/thread/S9904438#p9911428

Good?

>>9962411
How often do you change your pillow sheets?

>>9962879
Don't use cetaphil. Not sure how the other products are, but cetaphil has some harmful chemicals in it. Avoid anything with sodium lauryl sulfate and cetyl alcohol.

>>9962913

Maybe once a month, which is way to infrequent.

>>9962916
Better?

>>9962916
>harmful chemicals
I wish this meme would die
Cetyl alcohol is a perfectly fine ingredient and, like most other fatty alcohols, helps the product penetrate into the skin. SLS is also fine unless you're somehow allergic to it. The new age vegan mums have made it into a bogeyman but in reality it's harmless.

Alcohols are necessary in skincare. Even ethanol (alcohol, alcohol denat etc), used as a solvent is harmless unless it's on top of the ingredient list (and even then, some widely recommended sunscreens have it as their second ingredient) or you have dry or dehydrated skin.

Stop spreading false information and needlessly limiting people's choices just because Paula Jewgoun spewed some shit again to help sell her 'alcohol-free' products (that still contain fatty alcohols).

>>9962942
Replaced the moisturiser with one that has spf 30

>>9962965
I can speak from experience that switching from products with cetyl alcohol and SLS stopped my acne

>>9951376
Despite what leddit says, you can get away with not wearing sunscreen depending on where you live and how long you spend outside. Not everyone lives in Australia or the US, and not everyone frolics about in the scorching sun while naked.
Not that sunscreen isn't beneficial or that you shouldn't wear any (you should), but it's silly to assume that everyone depends on it or will get skin cancer if they don't wear it 24/7. If aging is your primary concern perhaps, otherwise it's not as dire as that and I wish you'd stop scaremongering.
>>9963027
Mate, I wouldn't worry too much. It's a trial and error process, you'll likely need to change your routine sometime in the future. We can't help you without knowing what agrees with your skin and what skin type you have. I'm probably going to get a lot of shit for this but just because CeraVe and Cetaphil are often recommended, that doesn't mean you NEED those for a beginner routine. If I were you I'd just go to the nearest chemist (pharmacy) and ask them to recommend something or pick something gentle yourself. Be careful not to get 'recommended' something expensive, though. Even a respectable supermarket would do.

Your shopping list seems fine, but if you're a beginner I wouldn't get a chemical exfoliant just yet, at least not without sunscreen. Start small and build up.

>>9963125
>my
There's your problem, and anecdotal evidence is not real evidence.
If we're gonna go down that rabbit hole, I use a facial cleanser with SLS and a moisturiser with parabens out the wazoo. Skin is fine, and as with every product it also matters how high on the list it is.

How do i fix my face?

>>9963170
Rotate clockwise 90 degrees

>>9963226
I dont know why 4chin rotates the pictures i uploaded via iPhone

>>9963226
kek

>>9962501
>Use in this order: cleansing, exfoliating, salicylic acid, vitamin C serum, moisturizer, tretinoin.
Where does he shave here or use sunscreen?

>>9963426
I'm assuming that's the night routine as it has tretinoin and sal acid. Vita C should be used in the morning before sunscreen though

Yo so I used a cotton ball and rubbed 2% salicylic acid last night, and I woke up to see several whiteheads on my face. Is this normal (like is the salicylic purging clogged pores) or should I stop using it?

>ctrl + f "aloe vera"

>No results found.

I've literally got a aloe vera plant in my house for my daily facial.

>>9963466
Do you need a man in your house for a daily facial?

>>9963483

You are not funny, anon. I suggest you consider suicide.

>>9963435
What about shaving though? Does no one else in these threads shave?

So, how should I balance exfoliating and shaving?

>tfw genetics
>tfw acne started at 11-12 years old
>tfw 25 next week
>acne isn't as severe as it was years ago, but still persistent and very noticeable
>tfw backne and chest flare ups

I'm trying my best to put off Accutane but I feel it's my last option nowadays. I've never used it, but nothing else has worked, not even changes to my diet.

>>9963149
Sounds wise, the reason why is that in Denmark there is only one big chain of beauty stores (or what it's called) and it doesn't always have decent stuff. I have tried talking to the people at the local pharmacy and they just wanted me to buy the most expensive stuff, last time I was there they sold me a 50+ 30ml bottle of sunscreen that was greasy as fuck.

The reason that I want a full routine is that I'm currently on accutine and it's a nightmare and instead I want to try normal skincare instead.

>>9963512
exfoliate in the evening and shave in the morning?

>>9963545
Have you tried the ance.org regimens? They have one for facial acne and one for bacne with detailed instructions of how to apply the products. (Benzoyl Peroxide + Glycolic Acid for your back)

>>9963504
what this person says
>>9963564

>>9963556
Hmm. Well accutane does change things a bit, I'd suggest getting a rich moisturiser as accutane can dry your skin out. And you should DEFINITELY skip the Alpha Hydrox in this case, and wear sunscreen.

As far as sunscreens go, unfortunately there are many that are incredibly greasy and many more that are greasy and leave a white cast or irritate your eyes. I doubt that the pharmacist was actively trying to sell you the greasiest tub of lard they could find, they just don't have much of a choice.

Here are some I've had luck with
>Eucerin Sun Fluid Mattifying SPF50 (lovely finish but be careful around the eyes)
>Biore Aqua Rich Watery Essence Water Gel SPF50 PA++++ (high in alcohol, might sting your eyes)
>Mentholatum Sun Play SPF50 PA+++
I've heard good stuff about Bioderma and RoC sunscreens but haven't tried any myself.

I'm curious, do you have ACO products in Denmark? Their face cream for dry skin might be just what you need, and they're a pharmacy brand. It's in a pink tube though, so if that turns you off...

>>9963626
That's the thing, I want to stop the accutine since it's has huge downsides and try with a good skincare routine instead. Honestly I don't think they had any clue, the guy I spoke to couldn't even recommend me a sunscreen so he had another employee help him, which gave me some expensive crap. Not asking for advice there again.

I want to find a moisturiser with spf so I don't have to put on 2 layers of creme and get greasy.

Nope, our only chain store doesn't sell it and I doubt any of our supermarkets do, I'll check the pharmacy though.

>>9953749
>>9953913
>>9962501
Bulldog has another face scrub the one I've been using for the past month. How badly is this one fucking up my face?
http://meetthebulldog.com/original-face-scrub
Doesnt look like it contains coconut shell or pumice.

>tfw been using the coconut shell one everyday for 9 months until about 1 month ago

I'm a fucking moron.

I dropped all skincare some time ago (except Accutane) and my skin really looks at it's best.

I think all that shit used to dry my face. I tend to avoid products now.

>>9963626
>ACO nordic
>Denmark
>Sweden
>Norway
>Finland
>nordic
>Finland
topkek

>>9963906
Just because you used the wrong products doesn't mean that all products are shit

>>9964143

I used products from LaRoche Posay and LaRoche Posay only. I heard they were very good products.

>get a cold
>sick as shit for the past 5 days
>skin looks better than ever

what the hell /fa/. did my body just decide to put all of its resources into my immune system instead of making acne or???

>>9964103
Finland is Nordic, not Scandinavian. Like Iceland. Learn what you're talking about before taking the piss, otherwise you're just making yourself look like even more of an eejit than you already are.
>>9964168
Obviously not good for you. That still doesn't mean that they're shite.

>>9963895
Perhaps switch to a gommage or chemical peel. I've heard good things about konjac sponges and facial brushes, so there's that too.
>>9963687
Well I did mention that it's a pharmacy-only product...
As for the sunscreen+moisturiser combos, here's some. Sorry for the Beautypedia links, their reviews are generally somewhat biased but it'll do for now
>http://www.paulaschoice.com/beautypedia-skin-care-reviews/by-brand/la-roche-posay/anthelios/_/Anthelios-SX-Daily-Moisturizing-Cream-with-Sunscreen-SPF-15
>http://www.paulaschoice.com/beautypedia-skin-care-reviews/by-brand/yes-to/yes-to-blueberries/_/Yes-to-Blueberries-Age-Refresh-Daily-Facial-Moisturizer-SPF-30
>http://www.paulaschoice.com/beautypedia-skin-care-reviews/by-brand/cetaphil/dermacontrol/_/Dermacontrol-Oil-Control-Moisturizer-SPF-30
>http://www.paulaschoice.com/beautypedia-skin-care-reviews/by-brand/cetaphil/_/Daily-Facial-Moisturizer-SPF-15-with-Parsol-1789
>http://www.paulaschoice.com/beautypedia-skin-care-reviews/by-brand/yes-to/yes-to-cucumbers/_/Yes-to-Cucumbers-Daily-Calming-Moisturizer-SPF-30
>http://www.paulaschoice.com/beautypedia-skin-care-reviews/by-brand/la-roche-posay/hydraphase/_/Hydraphase-UV-SPF-20
>http://www.paulaschoice.com/beautypedia-skin-care-reviews/by-brand/yes-to/yes-to-carrots/_/Yes-to-Carrots-Fragrance-Free-Daily-Moisturizer-SPF-15
You can browse through the site yourself, I don't know what your skin's like now nor do I know what's available in Denmark (would love to visit one day though), so you can pick what you think would suit you best.
I suggest running each one's ingredients through cosDNA (http://www.cosdna.com/eng/ingredients.php)) just to get the gist of what's in it, but don't be spooked by the red numbers or anything. It's more of a guide rather than a set of rules. I use a moisturiser that scores 5 in acne for 2 ingredients but the ingredients themselves are just fine (green lines). Cheers!

>>9964526
oh and there's no need to get anything expensive, needless to say

>>9964423
have you been drinking more water? eating less greasy food?

>>9964566
nope, I'm always good w/ keeping hydrated and my appetite's been gone since I'm sick so I haven't been eating much of anything. the cold I have is the only factor that's changed

>>9964594
Wrong thread, I'm guessing, but this is a rad style.

>>9963895
It says like right there on the product description what it has...
>Packed with 8 essential oils, pumice, coconut shell, rosehip oil and shea butter to gently exfoliate the skin.
Stop rubbing rocks and crushed up shells on your face.

>>9963426
The routine listed is for night time, but use Vitamin C before moisturizer + sunscreen in the morning. I'm assuming you'll shave instead of exfoliating in the morning as well.

>>9963457
If it's just a few small whiteheads, then yes it's purging, and should last at most 2 weeks. I would suggest that with any new product you patch test it first before smearing it all over your face though.

>>9963512
Shave whenever you need to. If using physical exfoliating, limit to about 3x a week, but chemical exfoliation can be daily.

>>9963626
I personally use the biore sunscreen and I can guarantee that it doesn't irritate the eyes at all. However it washes off super easily, so I wouldn't suggest getting it if you're a sweaty dude.

Other sunscreens that I like but are a bit more resistant to water and didn't break me out
>Anthelios 60 Ultra Light Sunscreen Fluid
>Eltamd UV Clear SPF 46

>>9964423
It honestly might be changes in your diet and activity levels from the past few days. You might have been drinking more water and sweating less, tbh.

>>9964594
v nice

don't forget to Photoshop some milky marble titties onto that Windows 98 computer and then you have some vapor art

>>9964978
This post perfectly describes the mentality of vaporwave. I should buy a museum and print this out and put it as our star exhibit of truth in art.

>>9964995
it is only a divine truth because it is not a construct of my limited mind

source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyt_87yCyNw

A E S T H E T I C S

>>9964908
>I can guarantee
only for yourself, alcohol is like the second ingredient and it stings the shit out of my eyes too
the anthelios I have right now but it's as greasy as the lord almighty and leaves a white cast

oh by the way you need to apply 1/4tsp of it onto your face for it to actually work, and I can't see that happening when it's making me look like a mime

>>9964690
Could be due to having more sleep

So what are some red flags for dermatologists?
>food doesn't cause acne

>>9965188
Are you really tan? Also, are you using the eu or NA version of anthelios? I'm on the paler side so once it dries down the finish is pretty matte and evens out my skin tone a bit. I've got dry skin so it hasn't given me oil issues.

If your skin is oily, I've heard some really good things about the paula's choice one. I haven't tried it since it's tinted a shade darker than my face, but you might like it.

just copped these, what order do i use them in and anything else i should know?

Hey /fa/. I need reccomendations for a good sunscreen for oily and acne-prone skin. I also tend to sweat a little, so if it was sweat-resistant it would be great.

>>9966529
>http://www.amazon.com/Neutrogena-Clear-Sunblock-Lotion-Ounce/dp/B004D2C5FY

they have up to 60spf

>>9966529
Japanese sunscreen are the best, no grasy feeling after application and very lightweight.
http://www.amazon.com/Biore-Sarasara-Waterly-Essence-Sunscreen/dp/B004LRO7DO

>>9966536
Going to be starting new thread

New Thread:
>>9966583
>>9966583
>>9966583