/fa/ - Fashion

shit seems too expensive, but I always wanted to cop

>bump

I have never seen such a massive failure of a thread on this board until today.

>SPF

Get La Roche-Posay Anthelios 60 from Canada if you can.

Canadian/European formulation has Mexoryl which is a newer, better sunblock component.

L'Oreal asked for FDA approval of Mexoryl compounds years ago, but FDA hasn't acted on it because it's so underfunded, they can barely screen cancer drugs for approval.

>>9906523
then you clearly need to lurk moar, newfriend.

>>9906554
it has great reviews, but 60SPF is very overkill

>>9906664
>60SPF is very overkill

60 SPF is not overkill if you're white or pale Asian

>>9906523
sorry for not being rick/raf

>>9906554
thanks for the rec, do you know any other moisturizers that are lighter? heard anthelios is pretty greasy/thick

>>9906554
>amerislaves will never know this feel
Top cuck

Anyone know how to tackle eczema? I've been moisturizing and using hydrocortisone religiously since forever and can't go without the latter despite the fact doctors recommend only using it for two weeks max.

>>9906877
Anthelios Ultra Fluid in liquid format is very light and has matte finish.

>>9904438

I've always been a fan of Kiehl's Ultra Facial with SPF 30. Some folks have told me that it sits a bit heavy on their face, but it absorbs really quickly on my skin and though it feels greasier than you'd expect out of the bottle, it loses that once it's on.

>>9906846
in regards to UVB, there is about a 2% difference in blocked radiation between SPF30 and SPF60. see pic. In regards to UVA, which is more relevant in terms of photoaging, make sure that your sunscreen contains ingredients like avobenzone, zinc oxide, or titanium dioxide for example.

>>9906994
picture: photoaging in the face of a trucker. years of sun exposure from the left.

>>9904500
a lot of skincare products are way expensive. I think you only need really basic stuff.

I got a pretty shitty sunburn on my shoulders and upper back. What should I do?

I need a new moisturiser, i've got pale skin and acne that usually leaves red marks. Which product should i get, /fa/?

>>9908573
I think you should buy one of those after-sun lotions. Also buy a strong SPF and wear it every time your body is going to be exposed to the sun.

>CDG 2 Man

mein neger

thank you for starting a skincare general thread and contributing with OC, OP. I'll support the thread a bit by posting a fucking massive wall of text - stuff I've written on here that generally has been perceived as helpful.

I'm also posting it because it would be nice to have one single link to refer people to in the future. the posts are mostly about the most common skincare problems mentioned here.

The content is about:
- Periorbital dark circles (under/around the eyes)
- Soap, pH, irritants and synthetic detergents
- How to pop pimples in a safe manner
- Post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation (dark spots after acne, for example)
- Skin tone and diet
- Hormones and the causes of acne

[medical disclaimer]

On dark circles around the eyes:

There are two main kinds of dark circles under eyes ("periorbital"- around the eye):
- Those caused by highly visible superficial blood vessels
- Those caused by local excess skin melanin (hyperpigmentation)

Re. the first kind of dark circles around eyes: What you have under your eyes are red-blue blood vessels that for some reason has become more visible.

Sleep deprivation may increase the prominence of dark circles below the eyes, as the area becomes irritated. Puffy eyelids from lack of sleep can help darken the area below the eyelids. Sleep deprivation can lead to pallor (pale skin), which can highlight the unaffected blood vessels under the eyes.

Being underweight/low bf% make the blood vessels more visible, as the skin above it becomes thinner. Rubbing the eyes, or making the eye area irritated in general, can contribute to increased blood flow in the area.

tldr: sleep well. don't stare at screens for too long (see Computer Vision Syndrome). check for allergies. gain weight. do not irritate the area. use make-up. check for anemia. and if you're still bothered by it: see a doctor (dermatologist)
----
For hyperpigmentation, I wrote a response to a guy:
>What you have /are/ periorbital dark circles, but yours seems to be related to an excess of pigmentation in the area rather than overly visible blood vessels. What you seem to have is called "periorbital hyperpigmentation".
>Without intervention, the pigmentation often increases slowly over time. Treatment options include chemical treatment, laser, other things. Sunscreen is good to prevent further pigmentation in the area.
>The quick beauty fix: BB cream with sunscreen.
>Actually fixing it: chemical treatments (hydroquinone, retinoids, AHA peeling), laser. See a dermatologist.

----
To see what you /may/ have, google "periorbital dark circles" as well as "periorbital hyperpigmentation" specifically. Hyperpigmentation is more common for people with darker skin.

On soap, pH, irritants and synthetic detergents:

Do not use soap, made from "saponified" vegetable/animal fats. They are generally far too alkaline for your skin, and dries your skin out and irritates it.

Synthetic detergents can also dry your skin out, but they are generally much lower in pH than your ordinary soap - and therefore doesn't disrupt the naturally low pH of the skin. It's generally better for the healthy bacterial flora of your skin.

Maintaining the low pH of your skin can help prevent various kinds of dermatitis/eczema, as well as acne.

You should use a cleanser that is not soap, that is non-irritating and with a somewhat skin-neutral pH. Use a cleanser based on only synthetic detergents ("syndet"). Not all of these synthetic cleansers are good, but most of them are.

Based on "Irritant effect of cleansers - Correlation between pH and irritant effect of cleansers marketed for dry skin" (Baranda, et al), and some other derma literature, I've found that some of the most non-drying, non-irritating and recommendable cleansers are:

- Cetaphil Gentle Cleansing Bar
- Avene Cold Cream Emollient soap-free cleansing bar
- Dove: White Dove (bar), Dove Baby (bar), Dove Pink (bar), Dove Liquid Cleanser for Hands.

The above works for all parts of the skin, way better than most other things you've put on your skin. CeraVe Foaming Facial Cleanser (for the face) as well as Cetaphil Gentle Skin Cleanser are two great options.

As for moisturizers, here's two I can recommend:

http://www.amazon.com/CeraVe-Moisturizing-Lotion-12-oz/dp/B000YJ2SLG

http://www.amazon.com/Cetaphil-Daily-Advance-Lotion-Hydrating/dp/B00352MHE2

Articles:

"The pH of the skin surface and its impact on the barrier function."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16864974

"The skin surface pH and its different influence on the development of acne lesion according to gender and age."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23279122

>tfw doing GOMAD because I desperately need to gain weight
>skin is fucked, although I use a cleanser to make it smooth

It could be so perfect

How to pop pimples, part one:

>someone told people to "never pop acne"

I wouldn't tell people to "never pop acne". In general though, it could be wise to ask people to not "pop" different kinds of acne as people in general do it in harmful ways.

"Popping" of acne can generally be split into the treatment of pimples, and whiteheads/blackheads:

- Popping of pimples (generally pustules - pus-filled sacks in the skin): Most people try to make their pimples "pop" by squeezing them with their fingers in order to make the the pimple break, allowing for pus to come out and cleaning of the area and healing of the pimple. Some people also utilize needles and squeezing.

- Squeezing of blackheads/whiteheads (open/closed comedones): Most people try to extract what they believe to be comedones by squeezing the area using their fingers, and sometimes a needle, in order to allow the area to heal once the comedo is removed.

Treating pustules is generally more hazardous, as the contents can spread across the skin during the procedure - as well as spreading deeper into the area by improper lancing (needle, ish) techniques. Both the popping of pimples and comedones can cause local tissue damage as you compress your skin to harshly. There is never a need to use a great amount of force when popping pimples/comedones.

hello local derm expert, could you help me out at >>9910259

I've been trying to kill off my persistent acne for a few months now, with much improvement with adapalene/antibiotic combination, however I still have some comedos left.

are you a med student or something? Thanks.

How to pop pimples, part two:

>>9336197
This guide to dealing with pimples/pustules is okay:
http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/teen-acne-13/pop-a-zit?page=2

Bear in mind that:
- An ordinary "straight pin" should not be used, as these are in general too thick and can cause unnecessary tissue damage. Use the sharpest and thinnest needle available.
- Sterilizing a needle using a flame could cause soot (carbon) to cover the tip of the needle. If it pierces your skin incorrectly, then this soot could end up in your skin and create a basic kind of tattoo. Sterilize the needle with alcohol.
- Alcohol should not be used to sterilize the wound after lancing the pimple. Alcohol pains your wounds because it hurts the general area. Healing time is increased, and will most likely increase local flushing (red skin). Use chlorhexidine or some other mild antibacterial agent.

----
This is a good guide to dealing with blackheads/open comedones:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCKh0-vTRAE
(content warning)

Notice how ineffective fingers are at applying pressure locally to the target area. They are too blunt, and are more likely to harm the skin in the area. I think you're all familiar with this - the red and painful area around pimples/comedones after you've popped them using blunt fingers and too much force. Get a specialized tool on Amazon or whatever. Try to use that instead of your fingers.

-----
Regarding whiteheads/closed comedones:
They are to be lanced like pustules, and then squeezed gently with fingers - or preferable by the use of special tools (like the one linked to above).

Please note that both closed and open comedones are prone to recurring. "Mechanical extraction" is a very unnecessary thing to do. They'll most likely return in a couple of weeks unless you start treating the area chemically, with stuff like salicylic acid.

On post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation (PIH):

>someone asked for advice on how to treat post-acne

By "post-acne", I'm assuming that you're referring to post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation (PIH, dark spots), post-inflammatory erythema (PIE, red spots), and various forms of scars in the places where you had acne.

I would first of all advice you to use a sunscreen (+30 SPF) on your entire face in order to prevent UVA/UVB damage to these rather sensitive spots to prevent further deterioration.

Mild hyperpigmentation will generally fade with time. Depending on the extent and depth of it, you may want to treat it as well to get rid of it. I would just advise you to go with some standard OTC hydroquinone treatment. It bleaches your skin.

There are many other options to this, mainly different kinds of alpha/beta-hydroxy acids and topical retinoids. Deeper/more sever hyperpigmentation is treated with chemical peels as well as lasers.

Post-inflammatory erythema, as caused by acne, will generally clear (can take up to a year), but can be treated as well. Laser treatment is very effective for this. Some PIH treatments described above can be used for PIE (as well as scars).

Murad Post-Acne Spot Lightening Gel could be a good OTC option.

On skin tone and diet:

>someone asked about eating carrots in order to get a healthy-looking "tan"

The thing is that it's not a matter of a "tan", since that's related to increased skin melanin due to sun (UV) exposure. It's therefore nothing you can affect through sun exposure. It's rather a matter of making the skin a bit more red/orange, by eating things that contain different "carotenoids". These substances end up in your skin, to varying degrees. This seems to work as a cue for "healthy person" when people examine faces. This apparently affects how attractive people are rated by others.

It is absolutely possible to change your skin hue, and seems likely that it will impact how others perceive you. +4-7 portions is what's recommended based on the 1st-2nd studies. Carrots, tomatoes. Pills work as well. Dosage depends on the brand.

Don't worry about carotenosis. Increase your intake gradually. The hue change should take weeks, and will disappear in months.

http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0032988

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2780675/

http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~go10/wp-content/media/Evolutionary-Psych-paper-2012.pdf

On the causes of acne (a bit technical):

>someone said that it's a myth that acne is caused by dirty skin (and that it's all hormones)

Excessive sebum production, regardless of if it is caused by sex steroids/growth factors or something else, is necessary for acne to develop.

If this was the only factor, however, then everyone who had excessive sebum production/oily skin would automatically develop acne.

Excess sebum production combined with excessive local skin peeling (desquamation) form plugs in the sebaceous ducts (microcomedones), which can later evolve into both inflammatory lesions (IL, different kinds of ordinary pimples) and non-inflammatory lesions (NIL - comedones: blackheads and whiteheads.)

What the microcomedo evolves to depends mainly on the amount of P. acnes inside of the plug, and the resulting amount of "proinflammatory" substances that is produced by the bacteria as they grow.

MULTIFACTORIAL PATHOGENESIS.

Simple English: Acne appears when your skin creates too much fat, and when the skin is peeled off a lot right next to your pores. This creates a gunk that blocks the pores. Bacteria then eats this gunk and creates bad chemicals that your skin doesn't like. Your skin gets red, swollen, and painful.

>>9904438
EEEW MOISTURIZER IS FOR NIGGERS.

tl; dr? - See a dermatologist.

I use Alba natural pineapple facial cleanser and DermE moisturizing cream everyday, exfoliate with natural sea clay exfoliant twice a week. All that shit in OP is overkill.

>>9910277
>http://www.amazon.com/Cetaphil-Daily-Advance-Lotion-Hydrating/dp/B00352MHE2

i use this on my whole body after showering

>>9908635
Any recommendations for the SPF? I'm giving up on aerosol sun screen because i put a bottle in my backpack on a day trip once and managed to open and spray its entire contents on my backpack and the stuff in it. Now I have to replace my wallet, that backpack, and possibly one of my favorite hoodies. Also I hear it's shitty for your skin.

>>9910285
just do a slow, clean bulk, man.. you will thank me later.

just got this, haven't tried it yet

http://www.yvesrocher.ca/control/soins-visage/des-25-ans/soin-energie-jeunesse-jour-peaux-seches/

>>9908629
Anyone?

>>9910269
>A bit chubby, job requires me to stare at a screen for 7½ hours a day, can't sleep well because of frustrations regarding work

I guess make-up is the answer.

Which kind of make-up do you suggest for a guy? I would be extremely embarrassed purchasing shit like that in a physical shop.

>>9910417
>>9910419
>>9910958
you are now my new favorite people because you actually read the stuff I posted (:

>>9910419
Plenty of options. Just search "sunscreen 30 spf" or whatever on Amazon and sort by review score. Some of these may not protect against UVA.

http://www.amazon.com/COUI-Moisturizing-SPF-Facial-Sunscreen/dp/B00M21V4FU

http://www.amazon.com/Paulas-Choice-Hydralight-Shine-Free-Moisturizer/dp/B00DH2376M

http://www.amazon.com/Shiseido-Senka-Aging-Sunscreen-SPF50/dp/B00IG12XLO

http://www.amazon.com/Neutrogena-Shield-Lotion-Sunscreen-Spectrum/dp/B0037LOQQI

The one /fa/scist recommended is here:

http://www.amazon.com/Kiehls-Ultra-Facial-Moisturizer-Unisex/dp/B00DAB6GZE

>>9908629
>>9910442
Pale skin + post-inflammatory redness? Protection from direct sunlight required. You don't want to hurt the red spots in particular. Sunscreens listed above. The redness will most likely fade, but it can take up to a year (but usually much shorter time). If it persists, laser is one of the things that works really well.

>>9910958
All kinds of make-up are not exclusively a "girl thing" anymore imo, but get a BB concealer that matches your skin tone.

>>9911428
OP here, what are your thoughts on black head removal?
i get these black heads near the corner of my nose that are difficult to remove

What would be the most efficient method of removing blackheads without damaging skin/enlarging pores? (nose strips, removers in pic, exfoliating scrub)

I usually use an exfoliator once/twice a week

>>9911473
>>9911428

>>9911473
see this part of the guide above:
>>9910287
>>9910294

imho:
the best thing is to avoid getting blackheads in the first place.
the second best thing is to either:
- remove them carefully using substances like salicylic acid, retinoids, or benzoyl peroxide.
- remove them carefully mechanically and then prevent them from recurring using chemicals like the ones listed above.

physical scrubs (with small particles) generally don't work that well. they are simply to big to effectively target the contents of the pores, and they can also create small tears (wounds, later scarring) in the skin. this irritates the area and can contribute to less elasticity in the area later on. chemicals are much better at dealing with comedones.

>>9911475
doesn't work on nose
don't try

>morning
ph balanced facial cleanser
moisturiser
sunscreen

>nightly
ocm w/ hemp seed oil
ph balanced facial cleanser
mint julep masque
AHA
moisturiser

>>9911475
I acutally use this thing to clean out the dirt from my nails. I dont even get how you're supposed to use it on your face.

>>9911773
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq1c1iHQp8Q

>>9911777
nice tripsk

>>9911768
Any specific products?

just putting it out there, /r/skincareaddiction is actually pretty good

>>9906994
UVB causes photoaging as well and the additional 2% make a difference in someone living to 60+.
While considering no one applies even enough SS, so even those people are on the safer side with 50+.
Also in the EU as well some other countries UVA only consists 1/3 of the SPF. You'll get better anti-aging benefits of a 50+ then as well.

TinosorbM is the best UVA protection to exist, not yet available in the US though, while zinc oxide is really good which should only be used in non-nano form and should contain 15% + for adequate UVA protection.

>>9911636
I've tried OCM and salicylic acid but both did nothing to get rid of or prevent blackheads for me. What do.

>>9906901
have your tried vaseline?
Don't use cortisone over 2 weeks, it can damage your skin and will be in even worse condition than now.
Maybe you're allergic to something? Or it's diet related. Could even be a fungus

I'm stoopid as fuck, what's an exfoliant? Any good ones I could use?

>>9910436
there is nothing anti-aging about it's formulation, just an expensive moisturizer.

>>9914198
exfoliant is just a retarded phrase for scrubbing your skin. products with those little plastic beads in them are considered exfoliants.
basically shit that is designed to scrub your pores

>>9914193
let the oil sit for 10 min and then massage lightly for about 5 mins

>>9914219
chemical exfoliants are better suited for the face than plastic beads, which are also terrible harmful for our enviroment

>>9908629
I use baby diaper cream which works like a charm and AHA/vitamin c serums

>>9911777
god that's nasty yet i can't stop watching

has anyone got any experience with DUAC? (Benzoyl Peroxide/Clindamycin Phosphate)

I've been using it nightly and it dries my face out to fuckaroony, but I do moisturise.

My question is how long should i wait before applying Duac and then moisturising, at the moment I use it before bed then when i wake up i use a gentle face wash and then moisurise

>>9914316
if you thought that was disturbing, look at the video in >>9910294

>>9914571
used that for a while. it didnt work

>>9914571
i'd put duac on right after showering. wait for it to dry out a bit then moisturize.

>>9910323
And acne is for white boys :^D

>>9911773
>>9911777
please note that they press way too hard when they're using the comedone remover in this video. that's why there's clear mark left by the remover on the skin. the area is likely to bruise, or even turn into a wound. if the comedone doesn't "yield" when you're using one of these extractors, you can try one that is "spoon shaped" (like the one I linked to). lancing the comedone before extracting should work, too.

>>9913562
yes, well, they're absolutely more right than wrong. some groupthink stuff going on, though.

>>9914181
just wanted to inform. didn't intend to discuss things, but the effect of UVB radiation on photoaging is small in relation to the photoaging caused by UVA since UVA affects both the epidermis as well as the dermis. I admit that it's hard to quantify, but UVA contributes almost solely to the deep structural changes in the skin - whereas UVB only reaches the epidermis.

>>9914193
what dosage and treatment duration of salicylic acid did you try? it generally takes several weeks to get noticeable results on comedones. If I would like to combat them, I would probably apply a 2% solution 2 times daily and leave it on.

there are plenty of things to try: benzoyl peroxide. retinoids. glycolic acid/mandelic acid/lactic acid. If I had blackheads I would just mechanically extract them and then keep them from coming back by using SA.

>>9914198
any agent that is used to remove "dead skin cells" (corneocytes) from the upper levels of the skin. an intentional kind of "desquamation".

>>9914571
DUAC is 5% BP, right? almost everyone experience redness, dryness, shedding when they start using products containing BP - and problems are likely to persist for higher %. 5% is a bit high, but still in the okay range. re. moisturizer timing: let the DUAC dry and "sink in" (literally). then apply moisturizer - otherwise there's a risk that you'll carry active ingredients away from the skin when applying the moisturizer.

how's topical vitamin C for mild PIH?

ordered this today
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00P9MZITW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00

>>9915365
I appreciate all that you have posted here! I have read (and saved) all of it and definitely learned quite a few things.

If you wouldn't mind taking your time to answer my specific questions, I would really appreciate it :)

I suffer from Acne and am 22 y/o already. At this point, it's safe to say that I will likely have it forever. However, I am convinced my cleansing regiment is in part to blame.

I use neutragena acne cleansing wash with 2% SA and their moisturizer with 20sbf as well. My skin seems to dry up a bit and the moisturizer doesn't seem to really do much.

I have just a few blackheads total, maybe 2 whiteheads at the most at any given time but I have a TON of red marks from old acne around my jawline.

Even after reading, I'm at a loss of what to do.

I need your help and would love a response!

Thank you in advance :3

Usually had nice skin but started getting acne about 3 weeks ago for seemingly no reason.
How 2 fix?

>>9914634
NOOOOOoooo

How the fuck do I get rid of shit like this, have constant comedonal bumps that are fleshy but can only be seen in the light, squeeze them and a hard waxy substance comes out then leaves a mark - cosntant weekly struggle. I use a scrub that contains salicylic acid in the shower twice daily, and apply benzoyl peroxide cream to my whole face nightly and take antibiotics twice a day. Any recommendations? A BHA/aha? A lactic acid peel?

And yes my abysmal facial hair is only because I havnt shaved due to irritation.

>>9913519
not really besides this

http://www.iherb.com/Queen-Helene-Mint-Julep-Masque-Oily-and-Acne-Prone-Skin-8-oz-227-g/5796#p=1&oos=1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=mint%20julep%20masque&rc=5&sr=null&ic=1

works dope and is cheap af

>>9917429
haha fucking disgusting son
JUST

>>9917429
regardless of the acne, your "moustache" needs to go as soon as possible. the strands are thin and lightly pigmented - just the kind of hairs that you get when you first start getting hairs on your face. keeping that shit will not make you seem more adult/mature. you look like pubertal little kid.

a good looking moustache/facial hair is coarse and thick, and pigmented in some way. yours are not.

>Every morning/night
Wash face with warm, then cold water.
Drink 1L water.

>Almost every day
BASIDERM oil control and daily moisturiser.

>1-2 times a week
No7 foam cleanser for normal/oily skin (only apply for T-zone).
No7 night cream normal/oil skin (T-zone).
Seaweed Mattifying Day cream (T-zone).

>2-3 times a month
Botanics All Bright Purifying Face Scrub.

>Once a month
Seaweed Iconic Clay Mask.

>Whenever my face needs it
No7 Balancing Toner for normal/oily skin (T-zone).
Vaseline for my cheeks.

What's a good unscented aftershave

Skin is clear but sensitive so not much needed.

Bulldog sensitive face wash and then sensitive moisturizer

Before each shave (once a week) I use Bulldog's facial scrub followed buy after shave gel

Simple. Drink a lot of water and green tea

>>9917730
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lmgtfy

I would just use a good unscented face moisturizer though

>>9914634
nigga

>>9915914
>At this point, it's safe to say that I will likely have it forever.

I've got good news for you: that's not safe to say at all. It's a common misconception that acne is a disease limited to puberty, and that if you still have it once you're out of puberty then it's there to stay. Almost half of all women and men still have acne in their 20s, but prevalence drops steadily as we age.

You can choose to change how much acne you have, to a certain degree. It's generally not possible to get rid of it completely, but it is very much possible to make it much less severe. How? Mainly through proper skincare, the right medications, and patience.

Your current cleanser is rather controversial (possible irritants), and the temporary application of SA is pretty meaningless.
Start using cleansers like: CeraVe Foaming Facial Cleanser, Aquanil Cleanser, or CeraVe Foaming Facial Cleanser.

Your current moisturizer is not as good as it could be. Consider Cetaphil Daily Advance Lotion or CeraVe Moisturizing Cream. Both go on in the evening.

Re. sunscreen: >>9911428

Application for all of the above:
Cleanser: Morning and night (as long as your skin doesn't get dry/irritated).
Moisturizer: Night.
Sunscreen: Morning.

I think this kind of routine would work wonders for your skin, but if you actively want to fight comedones the you can start with an OTC product like Stridex Maximum Strength pads - daily/twice daily (as long as your skin doesn't get dry/irritated) before you apply moisturizer/sunscreen. If this doesn't work after 1-2 months, then you can consider topical retinoids from a doctor (possibly combined with BP/antibiotics).

Your red marks after previous acne lesions ("post-inflammatory erythema") must be protected from UVA/UVB exposure through the use of sunscreen. They'll fade over time. Can take up to a year. If you want to cover them up as well, then use a spot concealer.

Treatment efficacy is completely dependent on treatment consistency.

YOU CAN DO THIS

>>9920799
get

For more detailed information on acne prevalance and age, see "The prevalence of acne in adults 20 years and older" by Collier et al.

>>9915914
btw, I love you for taking the time you read through all of the shit I've written. sorry about not responding earlier.

>>9916332
>>9917429
see:
>>9920799
I think the advice here can be applied in your scenarios as well - maybe not just as hardcore.

>>9916332
could maybe just start with stridex/cleanser.

I really like my current routine of Cetaphil cleanser (cheap and amazing), Malin&Goetz moisturizer, and Paula's Choice Exfoliant.

I have been using jack black's spf15 with blue algae or whatever for several years. It's the best thing I ever did for my skin. Don't really use any of their other products but that one is amazing for my face.

Can someone please rec a decent face moisturizer that has at least 30 spf?

>>9921033
i have a recommendation for you.... always read the thread before asking questions

ctrl + f

>bump

>>9921033
>>9921033
Shiseido Senka Aging Care UV Sunscreen SPF50
v nice
get it

>>9921033
just don't forget to apply at least 1/4 teaspoon

>>9910256
>>9910269
>>9910277
STHLM, what products from Apoteket do you recommend the most?

Cetaphil mosturizer says non-comedogenic but I've read it causes breakouts anyway. Have you guys had any experience with it?

>>9923570
https://www.reddit.com/r/NordicSkinCare/comments/34f24n/the_ultimate_list_of_swedish_skincare/

The list above is rather comprehensive.

I only use Eucerin pH5 Skin-Protection Cream, and occasionally ACO Minicare Wash Lotion and ACO 2% salicylic acid solution.

>>9906917
Thanks..... I read up. seems like a great product

>INNOVATION. FAST-ABSORBING, MATTE FINISH. FRAGANCE-FREE. PARABEN-FREE.
WATER-RESISTANT.

aaahh

>>9923757
>ACO 2% salicylic
the alco one? It doesn't even have the effective pH

I have been giving Dr. Bronner's peppermint castille soap a try based on a recommendation somewhere on the internet. I took accutane in high school and my skin was perfect, but now several year later I am getting acne on the sides of my face and my neck.

After about 2 weeks of once a day washing with Bronner's I have seen some improvement but overall it doesn't seem to be doing as much as I would like

>>9925523
>not in the effective pH range

What is the pH of the product in question? Haven't seen it anywhere. It is impossible for any of the few ingredients listed in that product to neutralize the amount of salicylic acid though, therefore it should absolutely be acidic and chemically active.

The keratolytic effect of SA is mainly dependent on the final concentration of the substance in the stratum corneum, which speeds up the desquamation of corneocytes. The pH of the delivery agent is not a factor as long as it doesn't, for example, neutralize the SA.

>>9923757
Thanks, picked up the Eucerin Cleansing Milk and the pH5 Cream. When do you use the Cream? Just when your skin feels a little dry or every morning/night?

>>9920799
You're amazing!

This just gave me so much confidence that I can one day have really nice skin. I'm going to change the products I use to the ones you suggested and see how it turns out!

Also, of course I'd take my time to read everything you posted! It's important to me haha.

You mentioned the temporary application of SA isn't really useful. Should I just buy an SA treatment that is just that and not a cleanser? Where would I fit this into my routine?

Also, you suggested using moisturizer only at night. Is it bad to use after each time I wash my face?

I'm so sorry for all the questions and thank you in advance!

>>9920799
You're amazing!
This just gave me so much confidence that I can one day have really nice skin. I'm going to change the products I use to the ones you suggested and see how it turns out!
Also, of course I'd take my time to read everything you posted! It's important to me.

You suggested using moisturizer only at night. Is it bad to use after each time I wash my face?
I'm so sorry for all the questions and thank you in advance!