/fa/ - Fashion

>>9645176
it only raises your attractiveness if you actually have a severely fucked up nose

also, the post op pain is a lot worse than a lot of other surgeries because it's not serious enough for them to keep you on morphine but you'll wish they did

>>9645176
>Is a nosejob the single most effective thing you can do to increase your attractiveness?

No.

You should worry more about your personality.

>>9645190
You're definitely ugly

>>9645176
dude also had work done on his chin

>>9645190

>>9645176
It appears that the guy in the picture has undergone other surgerys as well.

>>9645176
Only if your nose is god awful. As long as it's straight and doesn't point directly upwards, it's fine. Even if it is a little off, it's probably ok. The dude in your pic is an example of someone who actually needed one.

>Are there even any risks to it?

Yeah you can end up with an even worse nose. Look at MJ. I think Wendy Williams got a nose job as well cause hers looks unnaturally hideous.

>>9645189
Would a nose job help me?

some people have bad noses but if you ask me most people who think their nose is a big problem are overconcerned with it. big nose =/= bad nose.

>>9645218
>April fools ;^)

>>9645229
Sorry what?

>>9645218
my nose looks almost the same as this from the side but i'm a girl

my nose isn't hideous or big or anything but if i had a lot of money i would want a nose job just to get the bridge shaved down to so the tip looks cuter and pointier

>>9645247
wanna give me a nose job bb (;

>>9645218
literally the most regular nose I have ever seen

i dont have a bump like she does before, the bridge of my nose is perfectly straight but i think it would look a lot cuter if it curved in a bit

>>9645252
is that along the lines of a footjob? if so, definitely

>>9645254
Well fuck, I don't want to just look "regular", I want to look as attractive as I possibly can with the options that are available to me. I would consider doing it even if it could increase my attractiveness by just 10%.

>>9645240
You're fucking retarded of you think you need a nose job. There is literally nothing wrong with your nose you stupid fuck.

>>9645338
But "nothing wrong with" and "could be improved" aren't mutually exclusive things.

>>9645272
You may have some problems, dude.

>>9645272
you're retarded

a nose can't be attractive, at the best a nose is "regular"

i wouldn't get a nosejob if I were you, instead I would seek help from a therapist because you obviously have some kind of mental issues

>>9645373
in the case of noses, yes they are mutually exclusive

>>9645442
>>9645449
How is it any different from wanting to get clothes that makes you look the best you possibly can, especially if it's a low risk surgery that doesn't even cost that much. Also my nose is pretty fucking asymmetrical from the front, so it looks a lot worse from that angle.

>>9645486
because clothes can look good, however nobody is going to look at whatever you think is the perfect nose and think "wow that nose looks good"

people will only notice your nose if it's horrifyingly disfigured

>>9645195
kek

>altering your physical form to disguise your genetic legacy

U N T E R M E N S C H

perfectly straight bridge slim nose crew reporting in.

>>9645495
But it can increase peoples' overall attractiveness by a lot, like in pic related. Nothing "wrong" with that guy's nose either, but he looks a lot better in the after pic.

My nose is an okay size and looks good in profile, but I have noticeably asymmetrical nostrils, not unlike Frida here. Should I get a nose job to fix it?

I'm in my twenties and my parents could never afford braces.

Should I get braces now, or should I straight up buy new teeth?

>>9645176
i prefer blowjobs

i didnt wanna start a new thread and this is slightly related

today i learned i am sort of a mouth breather as my mouth is always slightly open and i take breaths through it sometimes

ive decided to fix this so my mouth might become more symmetrical and so i can be just a better person overall

im trying to keep my mouth closed with my teeth together and my tongue on the roof of my mouth but its so uncomfortable for my teeth to be touching

how soon will it get easier? any former mouth breathers here?

>>9645520
i dated a girl with that shit. it's crap to look at. get fixed asap

>>9645620
link grailed page pls

>>9645176
>Is a nosejob the single most effective thing you can do to increase your attractiveness
no height

>>9645176
>at least 5 points on the attractiveness scale
That guy was a 3 with his giant nose. Are you saying he is an 8 now? No chance.

To answer your question, the nose is the 4th most impactful feature in being attractive. The first 3 being hair, skins and eyes.

>>9645774
minus 2, maybe

not op

>>9645636
If its uncomfortable to put your jaws/teeth together theres something wrong with you. I was a mouthbreather as a kid and as a result I have a slightly bumped nose and slightly weak chin/jaw. I could have been like 1,5 points out of 10 higher if i didnt mouth breath and become a model (6,3 and skinny). So i blame my parents for letting me mouthbreathe all the time and they didnt tell me i was gonna be uglier. Im still a solid 7,5-8/10.

I've thought about it a few times but I don't really care as much, still wish I could grow a beard though

>>9646193
You're nose is great

>>9646193
literally a roman bust, don't fish for compliments faggot

>>9645176
I'm a feminine looking guy, I have long hair and pretty eyes and I'm skinny and so on and so forth. But I have a masculine as mega nose. I'd totally get a nose job to get the all round feminine look down UNLESS... I manage to grow out a good beard at some point cos I'm only 19. Im starting to lose hope, this shit is still patchy as. But if I could get a beard going with my nose and hair I'd be happy

>>9646294
Not fishing for compliments, people used to call me a jew in high school. The photo's probably making it look better

>>9645209
what if it's wide and flat?

your facial features are part of your identity

>>9646193
your nose looks great, no need for insecurities

>>9645449
Actually you're the one who's retarded here. Of course a nose can be attractive just like any other part of the body can, most people just get by well enough with their normal noses for the cost, pain and stigma not to be worth going through surgery to make it better.

>>9645176
Chin is more important. He hasn't just fixed his nose, he's fixed his chin as well.

Are you normally put down for a nose job?

Do I require a nose job

>>9647283
you might want to actually show the nose and not your lips

>>9645512
You're insane

>>9645610
get braces

>>9645520
there is still going to be some asymmetry no matter what
coming from someone whos 2yrs post op

>>9645176
this dudes profile looks like Sufjan Stevens lmao

>>9647283
grant?

>>9645512
Left is more attractive, honestly.

>>9647516
wtf no its not

im so sick and tired of ppl who lie and say that 'natural is better' and stuff looks fake/plastic etc

yes plastic surgery makes people look better 90% of the time IF they do their research and dont go overboard and know exactly what theyre doing (ie not rely on advice from 4chan)

on one hand this stigma is retarded cause its the same thing as makeup pretty much
but on the other hand w/e if u want to look 'natural' thats your business...but dont go calling something thats objectively more attractive 'ugly' or 'done' just to try to prove a point

>>9645636
>>9646146

Can't change your genes

>>9648044
Honestly this is off. I have good genes (6'2 good jawline thick hair)because I took after my uncle, the rest of my family is not so good looking. He's Nordic, so I have the Nordic bump in my nose ( the nose has very high root, my nose is still straight but has a bump, it doesn't turn into a beak like OP). Anyway what I'm trying to say it that as long as you have a few ancestors with a normal straight noses, there is a good chance your kid will have a normal nose. Pic related is my nose but the bump is a lot less visible and it has a higher root.

>>9647528
It's worse than that. It's advertising false genetics which is disgusting. Plastic surgery that isn't reconstructive is immoral because it's destructive to the species.

Lower bf%>Fixing your skin>Chin>Jawline>High cheekbones>big jaw from the front (like brad pitt)>Nose

are you even trying? Pic related has a jew nose but he is very good looking

>>9648166
Is it moral then if you get sterilized before having it?

>>9648152
Why would you dislike that, it looks stately and masculine. I don't think your nose is the problem. I think your self esteem is. Just post a pic, we aren't /b/ and nothing bad happens if you post your face here because no one cares and we have better things to do than dwell over your face for no reason.

>>9648173
Yes

>>9648174
Lol I don't dislike it, I actually like it for those exact reasons. Also the pig nose (think dwight shrute) runs in my family so I'm happy to have a pretty normal nose.

>>9648184
I have the pig nose you are talking about : (

>>9648205
Cara has the same nose and she is pretty good looking. If you ask me your acne scars are more detrimental to your attractiveness

>>9648184
Ah, then you're asking about it just for the fun of discussion? I like that, I'd totally hang out with you.

>>9648205
My friend has a nose like that. But he also has a jaw of steel and nice eyes.

>>9648177
How is it unethical? Your logic is bullshit, p.s. has one sole purpose which is improvement of facial aesthetic.

>>9648237
I don't think it can be better stated than that. You're dense as hell if you can't understand it and you shouldn't have kids anyway for that reason alone. Unless you're gay the entire point of life is having kids. We seek out mates that create the best offspring we can. Plastic surgery is advertising genetic traits that you don't actually have thus making worse children than your mate bargained for. Imagine marrying a pretty woman only to have your kids look disfigured because she got surgery to trick you.

>>9648205
literally the most normal nose possible on a guy. Male models have this nose and ugly people have this nose. It all depends on your face

>>9645176
I want an authentic Jewish nose transplant

>>9646866
If its just cartilage then try pic related. It wont move bone but temporally does the job. It works almost like corsets do.

>>9648166
>advertising false genetics which is disgusting
>immoral because it's destructive to the species.

lmfao crying of laughter

who are you, richard dawkins?

fyi that argument is stupid as fuck
it implies that the species will be destroyed by ugly ppl using surgery to hide their imperfections
if anything it would improve the species cause those people are smart enough to do something about their faces cause they know we live in a shallow ass society that is all about looks (for women at least)
theyre kids would be smarter in turn and humans would evolve
the people who sit around and mope and lie to themselves that vanity is immoral/surgery is bad etc are the types who dont care for their appearance as much and in turn have less chances to reproduce

>>9648387
*their

besides fashion isnt about morality
thats why fur is still in style

>>9648259
No it isn't. Procreating is actually unethical - see antinatalism you fucking moron. "We seek mates that create the best offspring" And in whatever this criteria beauty is included? How does aesthetic play into human survivial. Oh right, it doesn't, so there isn't an ethical issue present. "We seek out mates that create the best offspring we can" Genetic predisposition to diseases is something YOU should worry about, not looks.

>>9648418
Quoted you twice. My mistake.

>>9648394
tbh i don't think using animal byproducts is inherently wrong when it comes to fashion

look at sruli recht, what he's doing is beyond fashion in a lot of ways yes but, he still has designed garments and objects that are completely wearable and usable in real world scenarios that utilize animals parts, and i really don't see what he's doing as evil or amoral

How bad is my nose?

>>9645176
Are there even any risks to it?
Post-operating can be a serious pain in the fucking ass. Your nose's swelling lasts from 4 to 6 months, the tip stays swollen for a long fucking time, you have to wait six months to see results.

And how much does it usually cost (for a good one)?
In the US, it's almost never covered by insurance, so a good surgeon will run you 6 to 10 grand.

>>9645176
It can
Keep in mind that these photos can be misleading. For instance, he clearly cleaned his hair up a bit, grew some facial hair, and looks like he started working out a bit (based on his neck)

Get on my level :'(

>>9648169

fuck, he's so beautiful. forever jelly

Does my nose need fixing effay

>>9646193
>Literally the most glorious nose archetype possible for white people
FUCK OFF ROMAN BUST FAGS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>9648169

>willfully ignoring the importance of hair

Oh you poor pathetic bald cuck

>>9648418
Lmao. Beautiful people are more resistant pathogens. And evolutionary fit. Beauty was never skin deep.

>>9647401
here
>>9648205
thats me, not you.

>>9649049

Wow you're ugly as fuck

I mean you probably suspected it for a while, but I'm confirming it, you are fucking gross looking

>>9649083
shut the fuck up you estrogen chugging troglodyte

>>9649085

>still saying troglodyte

epic maymay :^)

>>9649049
dont listen to the haters id have sex with u

>>9648926
Fuck I forgot that
Lower bf%>Fixing your skin>Thick Hair> Thin Hair>Chin>Jawline>High cheekbones>big jaw from the front (like brad pitt)>Nose

>>9649381
What about neck to head size ratio? I'm way above average in every single one of your metrics but I'm still ugly as fuck because I have a pencil neck and a big head.

>>9649399
Better than big neck and small head. I forgot about eye shape too, that is very important probably right after chin and jawline. Height is right after nose

>>9649415
>Better than big neck and small head
You're kidding right?

Could I get a nose job without destroying my facial harmony? I go down 1-1.5 point(s) with my eyes covered. My nose is just too wide and fleshy from the front.

>>9649868
i can tell you're attractive

a nose job would probably make you look better but you're probably doing well already?

I think i am doing alright.

>>9649881
>nigger skull shape
>attractive
lel

>>9649884
>nigger skull shape
???
i didn't know that was a thing
his skull shape looks fine to me
his nose is just pretty bad


niggers can be attractive anyway

I am happy with my nose shape.

>>9649881
I think I'm slightly above average. About 5.1/10 when my body is factored in.

>>9649884
I'm mixed but people say I look Puerto Rican or Dominican, which feels meh. I smashed a a fir share of girls in undergrad but that doesn't say anything since college girls are giant sluts. I've had 5 girlfriends. I just have a deformed nose which pisses me off lol

>>9649905
>a a fir share
a fair share* holy fuck.

>>9649895
negroid skull shape is slanted backwards like his, Caucasoid shape is more flat.

>>9649895
I think he means my sloped forehead and bimaxillary protrusion/shitty maxilla/ shit-tier nasolabial folds.

I'm studying to be a facial surgeon so hopefully I can fix my own face

>>9649934
it's called ante face clueless fuck. I thought s.h. users browsed here? why is there ignorance? dude has great skull projection.

>>9645452
No they're not, are you stupid?

how 2 fix? :/

>>9648259
>the entire point of live is having kids
Yeah no, there is no point to life, not even having kids. Especially not in an overpopulated world like that of today, you're actually doing our species a favour by not having kids. Take your bullshit somewhere else.

>>9650138
i think ur nose is fine, anon. maybe i'm weird for liking a strong nose, the high bridge is one of my favorite facial features

>>9650138
eh doesnt look bad

>>9645176
OOOOYYY VEEEYYY

IT'S LIKE A SHOAH IN MY NOSE

>altering your face in any kind of way

So when you procreate with a female you know your fucked up ugly face will pass on to your offspring even if you get a nose job or any thing else done to your face, right? Youre just as bad as females who wear makeup.

>>9648830
OY VEY

>>9648174
>we aren't /b/ and nothing bad happens if you post your face here because no one cares and we have better things to do than dwell over your face for no reason

were you not here for that baby faced kid that /fa/ obsessed over for months?
that's why i'd never post my face here

>>9645272
oh hey Dennis

Hair transplant.

>>9645176
the jews are using camo

>>9646193
>dat chin

>tfw nose is pushed horrendously to the right

love 2 be a different person from each side

>>9645195
>>9645200
I know that you're just a couple of edge lords doing what you were born to do, but once you get older you'll realize he's actually right.

Always wondered if a nose job would help my face.

>>9653522
Yes.

Always thought my nose was too big and bulbous.

>>9653535
it is

>>9653522
>>9653535
To be fair though, taking a selfie with a phone camera is not doing you any favors.

>>9653565
Unfortunately I don't have anything else to take photos with/browse 4chan with ):

>>9653565
Camera phones are fine for selfies and full body shots. Where they fail is macro, depth of field and landscape photography as well as pixel density and low light conditions.

So infinity focus natural light selfies will make someone look more attractive with a camera phone.

Esp if you dl photoshop elements and fake teh bokeh

>>9653611
I'll take your word for it, you sound like you might actually know what you're talking about.

>>9653522
>>9653535
I guess the camera IS doing you favors and your nose is actually worse than we think. Sorry about your crummy genes.

>>9647516
I'm gonna have to agree, but I like big distinguished noses on guys instead of perfect, small, sloped noses. I think it exudes masculinity.

fuck everything man.

>>9653635
Looks good to me, man.

>>9653635
You have a nice profile.

>>9653642
>>9653639
you can barely tell from the front but from the side my nose is gargantuan