/fa/ - Fashion

I've owned some Red Wings on the same sole as the Iron Ranger and holy shit are they uncomfortable.
And Wolverines have a lot of QC issues honestly I wouldnt go with either of them. Maybe Red Wings on a commando or vibram sole if you must

>>8729815
The wolverines are going to be more dressy, iron rangers are more of a work boot.

It depends on how hard you're going to use them. Both are good quality.

>>8729815
Red Wing Iron Rangers. Surprisingly I get alot of compliments on them.

Also, as >>8729838 said, some may consider them uncomfortable. They have a very stiff flat sole. I have flat feet and the boots dont bother me at all, though.

>>8729838
>I've owned some Red Wings on the same sole as the Iron Ranger and holy shit are they uncomfortable.

Did you break them in?

>>8729857
Yeah dude, wore them for 2 years before I got rid of them. Had to use insoles just to stop instant pain.

>>8729838
also as I said here, heres an album of issues with Wolverine boots. http://imgur.com/a/qY7dN

>>8729870
>Had to use insoles just to stop instant pain.
How long did you have them without insoles? Mine compressed to my foot shape in about 2-3 months but, I also wore them with thick wool socks to alleviate the pain from wearing them all day. They are currently my most comfortable pair of shoes though.

>>8729844
This. All you need to keep in mind.

They're really different, not sure why people keep comparing them...depends what style you're going for.

>>8729815
I have a pair of Iron Rangers and I get compliments every time I wear them but they are deadly hell on your feet. They will restructure your foot bones and bruise the shit out of your feet during the break in period. I've walked over a hundred hours in them and they are still no where near being broken in. I kind of gave up and wear them only when I want to look good now.

>>8730223
Man in pretty scared now. I just ordered a pair of IRs. I had no idea the break in period was this brutal!

>>8730223
The last Red Wing uses on that boot probably just doesn't work with your foot shape. No pair of shoes should restructure and bruise your feet.

>>8730223
mine are super comfortable after 3 wears. I guess they just suit my foot shape.

Have a pair of Wolverine 1k Rockfords. Break-in was p fast about 3 wears and they're comfy af. Looks a lot better than IR imo since they're not as rugged. Got them on sale too so can't really complain. Also the sole is leather so it's kind of a problem in the winter

>>8730223
>>8730248
>>8729838
>>8729870

Make sure you wear thick wool socks. Something for cushion, I think that is where a lot of people go wrong, you have to buy socks for the boots.

>>8729815
Do they sell knock offs anywhere cheaper? Can't afford these.

IRs - Clown shoes for thos with big feet

>>8729815

To anyone considering buying some Red Wings, I've had my Beckmans now for about 3 years and can't recommend them enough. Worn them through some awful conditions and they are at this point perfectly moulded to my feet, and the leather has aged fantastically (pic related). Any questions?

RW Beckman or Iron Rangers, and why?

>>8733152
>Can't afford these.
Save the fuck up nigga
If you are poor you can't not afford pair of good leather shoes, they will last you a long ass fucking time and save you money in the long run.

>>8733694
>Save the fuck up nigga
True bitch

>>8733663
those are some gorgeous beckmans you've got there m8. is there anything you wished someone would have told you when you bought them?

>>8729815
Redwings have a superior toebox

>>8733683
IR captoe is life

serious question

why the bad rep for dr martens boots on here? the yellow thread is rather tasteless but at least the quality is good (wore a pair for a year with no major issues)

>>8729815
i have pic related and i love them. for some reason i hate cap toe boots so i went with wingtips. theyre pretty versatile but i mostly wear em with jeans

>>8733846
dr martens stopped closed their UK fabrics and moved all the production line to Asia, now quality is shit and it cost as expensive as allways.

>>8730223
lol this. I hate my rw.

>>8733846

> good quality
> anything from china

Nope

>>8734239
The made in China label doesn't automatically make something terrible. Yeah it's got a bad stigma and theres a lot of shit from there but there are places making legitimate good products in China.
Red Cloud is great made in China raw denim, Visvim makes a lot of their sneakers and boots in China, etc. Depends on factories used.

>>8733900
a lot of reviews for the made in england line said that the boots were very stiff/uncomfortable and were really hit and miss with the overall quality; whereas the made in china line was much more consistent

What style of pants do you wear with these? Boot cut?

these yo

>>8729815
>>8729848
This, I copped a pair of iron rangers recently (last couple months) and I have gotten compliments from everyone, from my dude friends to grills and respect from older guys. So they are all around goat tbh. You only get shit for redwings on /fa/ because you don't look like you are trying to be some edgy streetgoth or memeochrome.

>>8729838
This guy is just a pussy. I doubt he is used to wearing boots.

>>8734292
so good

is there any pics of someone using slim jeans with the red wings? I think they will look like clown shoes.
all pics I can find are from dad jeans and straight fits

>>8734334
What about OP's pic? Here are some brogue rangers that look like clown shoes.

>>8733683
Beckman if you want any traction at all, otherwise IRs

captoes is clowns

dont fall for the ir troll

plain toe masterrace ww@

bump

>mfw all these poorfags can't afford Vibergs

>>8737044
>faggot buying into internet forum hype
funny thing is
you don't have them either

loser

my iron rangers got a crease in them as soon as they got wet. am i supposed to condition them or something first?

1000 miles look better in pictures but in reality they're hard as fuck to care for. They scuff really easily and after a few months they look like shit.

Don't get 1000 miles.

If you still don't care about scuffed boots, I have some for sale, size 12. I don't really like mine any more.

>>8737400
Should you be sizing up or down for 1000 miles?

I've got two pairs of Iron Rangers, one pair of Thousand Miles, and a pair of Alden 403's. In terms of durability and aesthetic, Alden does it best. Thousand Miles are great looking, but the leather sole makes them less durable and less comfortable on rough terrain. Iron Rangers might not look as good as the others (YMMV), but they are durable and they break-in well.

If you are willing to pay more, go Alden. If not, go for the Iron Rangers.

>>8737452

I'm a size 13 in other shoes.

>>8737556
Yo, between amber and copper Iron Rangers, do you have any idea which look better in person?

I'm leaning towards amber.

>>8737587
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind if I order then.

>>8737591

I've got Amber and Black Iron Rangers, so I don't have any hands on experience with Copper. Personally, I would go for the Hawthorne over Copper if I was looking for a lighter pair.

as a eurofag I feel like these are my best option

>>8733885
These look beautiful. I want them, but I've spent too much on shoes recently.

>>8737400
They're really easy to care for, brush when you come home and apply shoe cream every now and then. I'm not sure what kind of scuffs you're tihnking off, if it's the everyday scuff you get from bumping into something or someone stepping on your foot in the subway, the brush does remove that, and the scuffs are part of any shoe's life anyway.

>>8737736
they're gorgeous yeah

>>8737591
copper looks better for the browns imo

everyone on earth has amber - i mean it

amber can also look all fugged if you're the sort of idiot to overcondition or condition with the wrong substance

copper has that wonderful "instant patina" effect
amber is uniform and kinda boring

>>8737556
>If you are willing to pay more, go Alden. If not, go for the Iron Rangers.
this may have been true once upon a time, but not now

alden appear's to have been doing something very sneaky with their shit
very underhanded if it's true

basically it goes like this:
in terms of construction materials, the three choices (1k's, IR's, indy's) are all over the place
BUT
RW's offer the most consistently decent construction materials, even if they don't use overhyped chromexcel like the other two (they use it badly most of the time anyway; compare 1k's and indy's with say white's or viberg's cuts of chromexcel and you'll instantly see what i mean)

wolverine's use a fiberboard insole
no quality shoemaker uses fiberboard - it's a corner cutting, cost-saving (for them) tactic
they are not considered to be a durable compared to full grain leather insoles
and don't break-in in the same way

alden, up until recently, did use full grain leather insoles. however, word on the street is that they're decided to cheap-out and use split leather insoles - this is another cut corner/cost cutting (for them, esp. considering they're >$500 and counting each quarter) method no decent bootmaker would use
ever

if this is true alden's are even more of a rip than they may consider to be now

RW, no matter what you may think of their aesthetic, still uses real, full grain leather insoles
have their own tannery, so don't rely on optimizing their horween cuts like alden and 1k (reason for all the funky leather you see on their boots - cut corners again)

a decent, humble choice if you can swallow the bulbous toe look

alden aren't worth it - if you're paying 500++ for subpar materials just skip them

>>8729815
>>8729844
>>8730223
>>8733663
>>8733885

So I bought a 3 pairs of Iron Rangers in varying sizes and I'm having issues trying to figure out the size.

How far in should your toes be within the toebox? I've had various info stating not to size up because you need to break the IR in and that there's an uncomfortable break-in process. I'm wondering if the less than comfortable smaller sizes is ideal?

Also, the inner stitching within the boot seems to be floppy and rubbing/chaffing against my ankle. Is this a quality issue?

Thanks everyone.

>>8734354

all shoes look clownish from an extreme closeup/low angle lol

just ordered these. the sales rep ends every email with a smiley face but otherwise happy with ordering can't wait to get them. i say they look better than red wings or wolverines but between those two i'd say wolverine :)

>>8738868
Fuck 3 pairs!?! I wear a 10.5 in Nike's, should I order the same in Iron Rangers?

>>8739004
no
try them on in person you idiot
otherwise you'll end up like all these other idiot whiners that have ill fitting boots

>>8738868

You don't want heel slippage and the widest part of the foot which are the bones on both sides should fit in the widest part of the boot. It should feel comfortable with socks on and not tight as to account for your feet getting bigger as you walk on them.

>>8738868
>>8739004

As stated, try them on first. It's the reason I bought 3 pairs in different sizes to try out. I have a feeling you might need to size down though.

>>8739041
Thanks for the advice. The issue I was referring to with the inner chaffing is shown in the picture. The material rubs against my left ankle and chaffs even with socks on.

>>8739078
Lel forgot the pic

>>8739078
>even with socks on
are you wearing thick boot socks?
need them for these kinds of boots
thin socks = begging for blisters

>>8739089
I've tried a variety of socks. Thus far haven't had any real issues, but as you can see from the second photo the stitch material is flopping out and rubs against my ankles.

>>8739190
Your photo quality is shit. Draw a circle around it in paint.

>>8739220
Right there. It's sticking out.

>>8730223
>>8738868
>>8739041
daily reminder that these shoes deform your feet, this is why your toes hurt. Anyone who says they are comfy has really weird feet, narrow feet or their toes have already curved inwards over the years.

>>8738868
Iron rangers run half a size big so size down .5! I'm a 10.5 and sized down 1 full size and my toes were hurting as fuck then I sized up to 10 (half a size down from my true size) and they fit perfectly. In the future with any shoes if you put them on and you immediately feel tightness in the front they are obviously too small your toes in the future your toes should only graze and barely touch the front of the shoe and should only really touch the front a lot when you wriggle your toes

>>8739247
daily reminder that faggots that have just come across this because of a pasta on here cannot reverse this process just because they suddenly stop wearing shoes

>>8739247
the feet on the left are feet of savages and other tribes
everyone who has ever worn shoes will look more like the right than the left
only way to have gotten monkey feet is to have gone barefoot since birth or worn shoes that were too big

>>8739434
no shit, thats exactly what it said

>>8739454
yeah
and that renders whatever that pic poster said irrelevant because everyone reading this thread that's not a ningnong from dumbfuckistan or some african tribesman will have feet like on the right

>>8739515
its not irrelevant, its not saying "what type of feet do you have" or some shit, its informative. the reason your feet are like the image on the right is because of wearing shoes. the image on the left is just a reference of what feet would look like naturally

>>8739277
I posted this image here first, you actually can reverse the process by putting toe spacer between your toes and wearing shoes that are healthier.

>>8738901
Man, I can't get a decent feel from these. I see them all the time. Some look really good, some look awful and cheap quality.
Which is a shame because I really dig the color.

>>8739434
I have started getting shoes that are slightly larger than what I normally get and it has been great so far with the extra toe room. Still doesn't always work though because then it won't fit around the ankle.

>>8739602
>and wearing shoes that are healthier.
What are healthier shoes?

>>8739041
False, you want a little heel slipping at first. & maybe half an inch from the top of your toe to the tip of the boot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUvyz5Mo0C0

>>8729815
I bought some 1K's like a year ago, and I love the shit out of them. the IR's are definitely a more practical choice, if you want to kep the wolverines looking good and healthy you've either gotta live in the city or get some vibram half soles. I did the later, wear boot socks, and brush/clean/polish them about once every 2 weeks, and after any specific occasion of heavy rain and muck.
It's a labor of love.
>yes that is my nail polish and no I'm not a man

Had my IR 8111s for quite some time now. Break in wasnt very long at all and now they're comfy as fuck.

>>8739775
Here are some barefoot style shoes:
http://www.livingbarefoot.info/getting-started/

http://www.vivobarefoot.com/us/mens/bannister-mens?colour=White

http://www.flexiblefootwear.com/

Flexible Footwear can be resoled and restored to like-new condition, when necessary, for a fee of 50-75% of the cost of a new pair.


Also try these:
Clarks
nike frees
birkenstock

havent found good boots yet

>no brogue ranger
>everything fucking brown

>>8739783
>no I'm not a man
Hmmmm. Bull dike?

>>8739869
dude that nail polish is sparkly, haha. I wear these boots with over the knee socks and flowery dresses just as often as I do in the winter with jeans. Can't a girl like a quality pair of boots?

>>8739875
So... what's your cup size? Bust/band size included.

>>8739869
Pic for proof or GTFO

>>8739905
pic related, me in my boots this summer.

>>8739931
The lack of fucks given is impressive.

>>8739931
Awfully brave posting that in here.

>>8740009

You should go trap on /b/

>>8739851
black and denim looks crusty mate

>>8740014
wolverine do make women's models of 1k's
but I don't think they look very good

there really is a dearth of decently made, decent looking womens' footwear

guess grills are just so used to disposable shoes by the hundred to want a handful of well chosen, well cared for pairs that will do them for a decade or more

>>8729815
No style after the boots and pants

Any boots for -20°С?

>>8729815
How good are wolverines etc for hiking and such? I'm going travelling in March for 3 months and need a pair of boots that are suitable for both city and country walking.

>>8742882

Sorry, but the Wolverines are entirely unsuitable for any kind of rough weather (unless you attach a half-vibram, which is more trouble and money than the alternatives and is less durable anyway)

The RW Iron Ranger or Beckman would be more suited as the leather is more 'rugged' (i.e. looks better when unpolished) than the Wovlerine, and more importantly they both feature good quality soles that are suited to both rough and city conditions. I'd recommend the Beckmans, and also that whatever you get make sure to break them in before you leave - I'm sure you'd hate to get blisters on day 2

I got these Danner Workmans recently(with in 6", not 8)

I wanted that dadcore kind of aesthetic but on a boot that I can actually use for outdoors activities.

i bought a pair of 1ks for $230 during the nordstrom sale, is it worth it for that price? i didn't realize the consensus was they were bad

>>8743637
Most of the boots here you can use for outdoorsy stuff, within reason of course. I went romping through the woods this weekend with my 875s and they worked great. Obviously for serious hiking you should have a pair of dedicated boots.

>>8742743
red wing icecutters have massive treads and are wool lined.

there are more refined boots that are wool lined for warmth, but they are much dressier

>>8742882
these are fashion boots
not hiking boots

they're not even real work boots

you'd think the leather sole would tip people off

but some people


>>8743792
i'd say that they are only "worth it" at around that price

considering materials and construction they're just not a good deal the closer you get to 300 - if you pay beyond that you're a retard that overpays for the substandard

How are 1000 mile boots dadcore?

Also 1000 mile boots look nicer than Iron Rangers; Rangers look like clown shoes sometimes.

>>8742719
those SKs?
i wear em with katahdins

>>8739080
My IR's had the exact same issue. Only left boot though. It looked like the tongue had too much material causing to to not set right upon lacing but rather fold just like in you pic, creating an stiff protrusion that rubbed my angle really bad.

These heritage boots like RW and Wolverine seem to have ton of quality control issues. I guess that's part of the "heritage" too..

>>8744523
1000 Miles have much taller, and larger toebox so if you are worrying about clown boot effect go with IR's. They are quite low profile in comparison.

>>8734334

>>8745289
ncie b8 m8

>>8743595
Thanks I there's a shop near me that stocks red wings so I'll have a look at them.

>>8738901
i'm still waiting on mine. for as long as they take they fucking better be good

>>8746397
>they fucking better be good
what are you expecting exactly?
they comfy boots - feel like sneakers because of the cushioning inside

nothing spectacular
and certainly not worth the 320+ whatever it costs to get them

anybody from new england here? i want to get a pair of one of these companies.
I could have made the image wider, but then what would you squint at?

https://www.bostonbootco.com/
http://www.newenglandouterwear.com/

>>8745289
>>8745289
b8

>>8746550
how have your soles held up?
(how long until you think you'll need a resole?)

>>8746696
Fine so far.

I figure since they're leather they'll hold up fine as long as I keep them away from water.

I figure I'll get at least two years like most other boots.

>>8746700
how long have you had them?
I'm thinking just getting a cobbler to glue a sole protector on them to prolong them since wolverine doesn't do resoles themselves

>>8746710
few months

>>8746550
Thumbnail looks like nigger cock

>>8730223
>getting compliments on your shoes

Are you gay or around lots of gay people?

>>8746776

Boots make you stand out, gives people something to comment on tbh

>>8746776
I get compliments about my boots all the fucking time by women.

Nice boots specifically stand out as something that can be commented on.

>>8746829
>Boots make you stand out
yeah, maybe in some pleb region where everyone wears rags and sneakers and flipflops in summer

in better parts of the world no one gives a shit about boots

>>8746417
I'm just being impatient I guess. I'd just hope that they don't have anything sloppy like missed / loose stitches or whatever. this is my first time getting anything made to order so I didn't really realize how long it was gonna take.

>>8746957
>I'd just hope that they don't have anything sloppy like missed / loose stitches or whatever.
Funnily enough on my pair the stitching was, for all intents and purposes, flawless.
Not the same can be said of my Vibergs.

Yeah. Wtf.

Did you go massdrop? Probably the best time to get them.

I'm considering Sagara next to experiment with. They're cheaper and Cheval and can do stitchdown or GY welt rather than Cheval's blake/rapid.

>>8746988
No i just went MTO. they cost me $345 total. I got em in natty cxl instead of that brown color. Whoever i've been e-mailing said that they're coming out with a more expensive goodyear-welted version of their boots soon.

the sagara imperial IV is a really nice looking last IMO.

>>8746550
At first i thought that it's a black veiny cock on that pic

>>8746740
>>8747527
/fa/ in a nutshell

So if the 1ks are shit quality, what is the alternative for a minimal boot like that?

>>8747760
they're not, but you do need to have seen and tried the very pair you might own yourself so you can check for possible defects (as you would with any other pair really).

Some people on /fa/ *really* dislike wolverines, but actually the 1ks are fine. As it's been said, what you need to keep in mind is how different they look from the IR, and go from there looking at the different criteria.

>>8738901
what are these? w2c?

bump

Any thoughts on Chippewa Service Boots?

I own both and would keep the 1000 mile if I had to choose one

>>8748269
they are wonderful and I wish they still sold the black suede ones because I would kill for them

>>8748269
narrow, rigid fit

try on first

>>8748149
chevalier captoe boots in brown chromexcel

>>8738901
Not a fan of the light colored soles.

>>8748976
that's just undyed edge dressing
you could probably request that they stain it or you could color it yourself