/fa/ - Fashion

>>8405804
they get their asses off of /fa/ and jog

>>8405805
For how long, at what pace?
I mean I'm fairly muscular but my fat just stays on.

>>8405804
"Crept's guide to weight loss"

Calories are your main priority.

You want to eat as few calories as possible.

You HAVE to eat, or you will binge.

Water obviously has no calories, and don't sweat drinking diet coke (no calories) if you're craving something

Black coffee has no calories, and offers caffeine - this helps some not eat, which is helpful because you may feel fatigued from diet change.

Vegetables are very low in calories, and in some cases you burn more calories digesting them. You can essentially load up on vegetables until you are satisfied with how you feel.

Fruits can be eaten generously, but avoid bananas because they have 150 calories roughly and add up quick, same with large oranges - 50 calories a piece.

Regardless, you can probably load up on fruit and be well under your normal caloric intake.

Don't drive yourself crazy counting sugars and carbs.

That's essentially it.

Anything else you want to eat, take the calories into consideration and try not to overdo it and develop an eating disorder

>>8405813
Cheers thanks a lot mate.

Biking calorie counting and attending musicfestivals

>>8405813
nice list ta mate

Cardio is best for weight loss, even if it gets in the way of your gains. Try biking for a lower impact exercise.

Also, limit the amount of food you eat (stick with one plate and one plate only, no seconds) and cut soda from your life; the carbonation will make you feel short of breath.

If you work out, but don't eat a surplus of calories, you will lose fat. Don't be a lazy piece of shit and hit the gym.

>>8405804
First rule is, do not go fat free.

Fat intake is related to testosterone level in the body. More testosterone means your body uses the fat, and not store it for future (which is helpful if you're a woman expecting a child).

Find out your BMR, this will give you an estimate of the calories you can get away with every day just to maintain your weight.

Eat at a deficit, and cut down on fat intake by all means, but do not replace that intake with carbs and sugars. Instead of garlic breat with your pasta, for example, take a side of vegtables.

Eat more veg than you do fruit. Fruit are healthy for you, but they contain a shitload of sugars. Vegtables are king for a food you can eat all day without putting on any weight.

Drink more water.

And work out. 10 minutes a day of elevated heart rate will help, but lifting will burn more calories without making you feel the hunger you get with cardio.

Lift weights. Muscle burns more calories than cardio (afterburn effect)

>>8405804
>mfw /fa/ giving the shittest advice

Keto diet
Lift weights

No, you won't become swole from lifting weights for a few months and everyone knows toned is better than frail skinnyfat. If you can't do both of those then you don't deserve to be skinny.

>>8406942
You'll never convince the /fa/ggots on this board to lift

>>8405813
You can eat a shit load of chicken before building up too many calories. Seriously. You still have to count though. Don't just stuff yourself with what you think are calorie-low foods.
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=100g+chicken

>>8406932
It also has the unfortunate side effect of building muscle though.

>>8407781
Yes, agreed. Hopefully you actually READ everything I said, because I mentioned you can probably eat fruits and vegetables until you're full, as desired, and be under your normal calorie in take which would in turn cause you to lose weight

>>8406942
how much should i lift?
I have some dumbbells at home, but theres no gym anywhere near me

>>8406942
how long till swole is achieved
.5lbs a week sounds quick af

>>8407827
also i have a pull up bar

how do i get rid of my face fat, im not even skinnyfat, im pretty lean.

my face has 0 definition, at least my jaw is decent

>inb4 comments about my nose
I know :___; probably gonna get surgery

>>8407801
How is that unfortunate you fucking retard

>>8407801
you wont build muscle unless you eat loads

if anything, youll lose muscle

>>8407840
You have to it puberty

>>8407860
19 :_;

Calories in < calories out
That's literally all there is to it
No need to do any sort of cardio/lifting
East less, faggots

>>8407884
will that make me skinny or toned

I've basically been starving myself for four months. 5' 11'' 74kg pretty lean now(was ~85 lmao). 72 kg is my goal

>>8407905
>mfw went from 75kg at 6' to 69kg over 3 weeks last summer by swimming a lot and eating barely anything

>>8406932
this true?

>>8407960
yeah I've lost it surprisingly slowly rlly

>>8407887
Toned doesn't mean anything - eating less calories than you normally take in will make you lose weight

>>8405804
700cal def., keto and interval running(6x800m dashes)

>Tfw 106 pounds and 5'10

I'm eating as much as I can but I think I need to exercise to be more hungry

>>8407905
when you say starving yourself how many kcal would you eat a day?

>>8407840
You look just as good as me, friend

>>8408071
pls no bully

>>8408062
1500. That's very little for me because i love my simple pleasures. I often skip dinner.

Ok niggers. As someone who has a lot experience in fitness, and is currently kinesiology/physiology major in 4 year, I can say one thing: mild caloric deficit over long periods of time. This coupled with serious weightlifting and regular medium intensity cardio. Eat when your hungry, have a high protein meal supplement after your workouts and sleep over nine hours a day. I can't stress how important sleep is. When you starve yourself as per the advice of most faggots in this thread, you will notice that you lose weight in the first week, but soon you gain weight doubly as fast, and hunger and no-results is a vitriolic mix of dread and disconcertment. Also eat at least three hours before going to bed. Lastly, pussy is honestly the greatest motivation imaginable. Ask a girl out, get a haircut, a couple new fits, and you'll be at the gym 6 times a week.

>>8407840
i'd d8 you
im a guy tho

>>>/fit/
>Eat less calories than your maintenance level
>Try to cut sugar from diet
>Exercise to help with the calorie deficit
Congratulations, you have now lost weight.

>>8407840
you look ok m8, like u said maybe nose is a little african but thats not all that bad. deece chin/jaw

all in all, near qt. probs look better in a few years

>>8408071
You'll make a great politician one day
>>8407840
You should try a different hairstyle. I've got a feeling that your current hairstyle is making you look younger

>>8405813
will black coffee stain my teeth, or is that a load of baloni?

>>8406942
You forgot to mention calories. Never eat more than you expend, if you intend to lose weight!

>>8409353
tybc

>>8409353
never change balchan

I ride 300 miles a week on my road bike. It's hard to get fat while doing that.

>>8409328
what's the tumblr where all these come from?
my mind is completely blank right now

There is this thing called working out and eating less food, OP. You should try it some time.

>>8407851
>if you lift you'll lose muscle

jesus christ

>>8407840
I saw you on /soc/
dude you need to get off 4chan

>>8409328
>>8409328
Black coffee does stain your teeth

Do not brush after drinking coffee - rinse your mouth out with water or don't bother with either*

*advice from a dentist I trust when I asked him specifically about it

>>8406713
ive got some meds that i can take when i need them which are meant to stop my hands from shaking and shit and they apparently increase testosterone levels, will they help with weight loss?

>>8409771
dont brush ur teeth after consuming anything but water, it can actually damage ur teeth

>>8408071
Rick?

>>8409771
dentists are jews hes just tryna make u come back more often

>>8410484
Your teeth are in a compromised / weakened state due to recent exposure to something acidic - thus rinsing your mouth with water, or doing nothing instead of brushing

remember that you do need protein, fat and carbs for your body to do its thing

starving on 1500 cals a day is really not fun or healthy, i know from experience. I fucking hate driving so I sold my car to ride my bike everywhere. Like another anon said, it is really hard to gain weight when you're riding 300 miles a week. I've been eating 3000 cals or more and haven't gained a pound (still /fa/ @ 132-134 lbs, 6ft ). Feel much better though. do it, get active

>>8405804
>How does /fa/ lose unwanted fat?
>fat
>2014 being fat
>mfw when op is fat

try adderal or meth if not please an hero you fat pig.

>>8409716
the fuck?
i dont post face on soc

>>8408071
still sad the thread 404d before I posted my edit

>>8409600
Artist's name is Will Laren, not sure what his tumblr is.

is this picture bullshit? id like to do it because i cant afford a gym membership, but i can get my hands on dumbbells probably.

>>8410554
i feel like -800 is retarded unless you are like 180 at 5'11
if you are skeleton you are going to need to eat more than you use

>>8410554
Seems iffy. You don't want to lift weight every day - your muscles have to get a break to "regrow" (huge weasel word sorry)

>>8409353

>>8410557
>>8410563

i mostly wanted to know about the effectiveness of the routines i posted. im probably going to add some more leg exercises, and its not my first time lifting either, so i know to let my muscles rest. diet's not an issue either. basically the only thing i dont really know how to do is organize a workout plan.

>>8405804
im experimenting with skipping breakfast, eating healthy snacks throughout the afternoon and eating a normal meal for dinner. i also drink green tea daily and am vegan and drink 2 liters of water daily. I've been doing this for a few days and have slimmed down (but it's probably just water weight)

>>8410554
You are lucky I saved my response...
ignore the grammatical errors.

And you will need a gym for weight training. There is no way around that.

>>8410569
I would suggest NOT asking /fit/, and doing research on those exercises an making sure you're getting every upper body muscle possible - if it's worth doing, it's worth doing right

>>8410574
>but it's probably just water weight
probably.
wouldn't recommend making a habit of entirely skipping breakfast, tho. instead try: a small bowl of cold fruit and coffee/tea for breakfast, whatever you normally do for lunch/throughout the day and keeping things minimal with a small salad for dinner. don't eat w/in a few hours b4 bed, get plenty of rest. throw in some exercise here and there to boost metabolism. also consider: you do actually burn a considerable amount of calories while you're sleeping (exercise will boost this too - hiit a bestgirl), so if you're getting hungry before bed, just brush your teeth and go to bed hungry...

>>8410574
It is mostly water weight.
You are basically doing intermittent fasting without a refeed in the morning. You should definitely be getting leaner.

lift motherfucker lift. If you lose weigh and dont tone your muscles you will look flabby as fuck. Also eat less calories, learn how to count calories and for example eat 500 kcal less (its 2000 or so kcal per day)of what you normally eat and done.

>>8407832
then you have practically anything you will ever need.
Search for strenght routines. Do squats, push ups, chin ups, bar pull ups. Sit ups. Fuck ups
that one was invented actually

>>8410611
>wouldn't recommend making a habit of entirely skipping breakfast
to briefly elaborate on this: it's actually a good thing to 'kickstart' your metabolism with some breakfast, not to mention your brain needs energy (and yes, some carbohydrates) to function properly.

now, obviously it's called breakfast because it's breaking your [overnight] fast, and one may be inclined to think: 'hey, if i've already fasted for the last 12 hours, i'll just keep it going till lunch, dinner, etc. for maximum kcal deficit/weight loss'.
while this mentality may be not entirely untrue, or impossible to utilize/commit to, odds are you'll get hungry later and just binge at lunch ruining whatever you thought you had going. intermittent fasting can be an effective way to boost kcal deficits/weightloss, but it can also be tough. binge failure rate is pretty high, so i wouldn't recommend trying it at first.
furthermore - this idea of 'kickstarting' your metabolism is real as well, so while you are breaking a fast, you are also warming your body up and burning more energy as well. so keep breakfast healthy and light, and you will be feeling better, working smarter and even burning more...

also, it's important to remember that, while energy deficit is important in weight loss, so is consuming enough to keep your body working. these diets that cut out an entire group of macro-nutrients are entirely bunk imo.
>seriously, no eating fat, carbs, protein...etc...?
carbohydrates aren't the actual enemy, chances are it's the types of processed carbs you're eating. so have a little fruit here and there, as an earlier anon said, try and eat more veggies than fruit and you'll be at a healthy ratio, and eat enough protein (obvs) to maintain or more to grow muscle...

>>8406932
i find that this is the big piece of advice /fa/ never recommends, because we're all terrified that lifting a little is going to turn us into meaty giants who can't fit into our skinny jeans. i lost more weight just doing pushups and shit (no access to a gym in this period lol) than i did when i was trying to run and bike a lot, although maybe this was a more viable option for me than most people since i am predisposed to building muscle on my legs and i was looking for any alternative to getting beefy thighs that there was

>>8410574
if anything skip lunch. breakfast helps your metabolism going in the morning

Stop eating shitty food and drinking shitty drinks.
You can over-think things as much as you like, but this is the essence of it.

Don't make any changes that you can't commit to in the long term without medical advice and/or definite point of change. Excessive restriction WILL fuck you up.

>>8405804
Caffeine - 200 mg
Ephedrine - 25 mg
Aspiring 83 mg

3x per day.

Everything else is speculation

how the fuck do you guys stay motivated to run. I've been running a mile a day, but it gets harder to motivate myself to do it.

>>8410888

>>8410888
>extract mp3 from youtube motivational videos
>run
>get tired
>knees weak, arms are are sweaty
>when you wanna be succesful as much as you wanna breathe, than you'll be succesful
>IT'S NOT OVER UNTIL I WIN
> >:O

i don't want to bulk at all in fear of losing my pretty bitchboy facial aesthetics under added weight (it's happened before). i already have a halfway ottermode body but looking to gain some more muscle. how to achieve without weight gain in face.

diet of whiskey and popsicles.

>>8410888
u keep running and eventually u start feelin good when doing it and u want to keep going at it
getting into the routine is always the hard part young anon

>>8409606
if you dont eat enough to replenish the muscle tissue you destroy by lifting, thats exactly whats gonna happen

>get free personal trainer for the month at my gym
>too scared to cancel it after the month ends because I don't want to be mean
>tfw getting bulky and 2beta to tell him I want to be a hungry skeleton

>>8410652
>fuck ups

ive been doing those my whole life

eat less than you burn. there isn't anything else to it

how to achieve it without going insane and eventually quitting depends on the individual.

small meals never worked for me. intermittent fasting all the way. i can go 7-8 hours with just a cup of coffee if i'm focusing on something i enjoy or working on a project. and i feel great.

also actually losing weight permanently is really fucking slow. starving for a week you'll lose a bunch of water weight and feel like you achieved something but it'll come back fast if you go back to your old eating habits. actually losing bodyfat is a long ass project, a marathon. so don't try to do it all at once, rather work on building your routine and picking up habits that allow you to eat healthy while still feeling good and not craving for calories.

>>8405811
Not the one you're replying to, but I go for a 45 minute run every other day at 12 km/h. Don't know how much it burns, think around 600 kcal.

Also watch your food, only drink hard liquor or wine instead of beer and no sugary soda. Or do whatever the fuck you want but keep it under 2000 kcal a day.

>>8410450
I would only take them when you're prescribed to do so.

It's much safer to build up testosterone naturally through diet.

>>8407801
A male adult weightlifter will put on about a lb of muscle every 2 weeks at most.

You won't be working that hard, and your muscle growth will be offset by your fat loss.

>>8410888
I listen to very hard electronic music (Gesaffelstin i.e.) and after the second milenusually get my runners high too. I also run in different places, parks and routes.

>>8407832
>pull up bar

All you need. Maybe a mat. I do this routine of incremental sets (no resting, or as little resting as possible between sets):

For every pull up, do two push ups and three sit ups.

So you start at 1 pull up, 2 push ups, 3 situpts. Then you go back to 2 pull ups, 4 pushups, 6 situpts, then 3, 6, 9. Then 4, 8, 12 and keep going up.

If you can comfortably make it up to 10 pull ups, 20 push ups, 30 sit ups you're doing well and should have a magnificent chest, back, core, and arms. By the time I could get to level 10 comfortably, I had developed a great back, chest, arms and core, but if you want to look smaller then just end it after level 7 or 8 to stay lean.

I also do a set of 10-15 minute ab and leg workouts 3-4 times a week, each set lasts 50 seconds, no rest between sets, the whole routine takes 5 minutes, so repeat from the start as necessary:

- Situpts (or variation for intensity)
- plank
- straight leg raises (lying on your back)
- left side plank
- straight leg raises (sitting, bracing with your hands)
- right side plank
- go back to situps

>>8410888
i think a really important thing is to find a place where you enjoy running
i used to always do this one route, and after 6km and 20 minutes each time, id be fatigued
however, one time i tried a different place, and ended up running for like an hour without being tired at all

>>8407840

>surgery
>prolly not even 18

what's wrong with the youth

>>8411678
sounds good, ill give it a try

>>8410541

then you shouldn't post your face on the internet

>>8410975
very slow bulk i.e. only eat 100-200 calories over your maintenance

>>8411636
>wine

Terrible idea. Higher alcohol and sugar content (fructose) compared to beer (its calories come from wheat).

Also, Alcohol has a detrimental effect on testosterone, which in turn affects how fat is dealt with: High testosterone levels use the fat, rather than store it.

There's evidence to suggest moderate drinking (no more than 2 pints per day) actually has no bad side effects when it comes to health and exercise. So long as it falls within your caloric intake.

>>8411685
easy for you to say you dont have my nose ;_;
theres literally nothing i can do about it besides surgery

>>8410961
HOO-RAH MUTHAFUCKA!
MK4 STYLE MUTHAFUCKA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJRr8bf8Ok0

>>8411693
You're right about wine containing more kcal than beer, but you're not supposed to be drinking as much of it.

Also, fuck not drinking alcohol. You have to keep life interesting. 2 pints arent going to cut it for me, I am glad slaving away at cardio and lifting whilst eating less to get my booze on. I also come from a line of heavy drinkers and feel like men who can't hold their booze are inferior.

>>8411729
>mfw when I stopped bing drinking, and started drinking little and often.

last night I only had 4 pints, and that was enough. Feel healthier, and my workouts have improved, though.

>>8410666
>carbohydrates aren't the actual enemy
yes they are

keto is the easiest and most effective diet out there. just reduce carbs to below 10% of your caloric intake.

Google 'TDEE', work it out and then eat 500 below that.
Use myfitnesspal.com to track your calories and macros, that's all there is too it.

It really is that easy.
I'm doing the opposite trying to put on weight and it's working.
Good luck Anon.

>>8405804
Counting calories and cutting with ~20%, eating 1g protein per lb of bodyweight, while following my rigorous exercise routine, of course, to minimize muscle loss.

>>8407801

>unfortunate

Retard/10

>>8411678
This isn't bad for conditioning and stuff, but the /fit/ in me is having a panic attack

You're never going to get "too big" by doing bodyweight stuff like this. I agree that by the time you get 10/20/30 you'll probably look pretty good, but I have to disagree on the "end at level 7 or 8 to stay lean" part. By the time you're repping those numbers, you're working entirely on building endurance, after that you'll get stronger (making it easier to maintain your body) but you're definitely not going to get any bigger

>>8412810
> but the /fit/ in me is having a panic attack

Yeah, don't worry - I know what you mean.

I was applying the /fa filter when writing, because I didn't want to scare anybody. You don't get huge or anything, but the muscle I've put on I can imagine scaring a lot of skinny guys here who want some definition.

swim
2km 3xweek should do the trick
you'll have 5% bodyfat in a year

>>8408117
>Ok niggers.

stopped reading there lmaooo

>>8413447
what about 6km once a week

>>8410975
you aren't willing to change, so you won't fucking change

>>8405811
>fairly muscular
kek

>>>/fit/

>>8413675
Any exercise you do regularly will make you look better.

The key word is regularly.

If you're running once a week, try adding a non-cardio workout.

See here >>8411678

Do the pullup, pushup, situp workout once a week, and your upper half will look as good as your lower due to running.

>>8411678
how frequently should I do this?

>>8416147
Once weekly for the pull/push/sit exercise. 3-4 times for the abs and legs, but if you're running, you can probably skip that, only do it only once.

You're body will be sore as fuck doing the pull/push/sit, so take it easy, you don't have to reach 10 pull ups straight away. If you're running 6k a week, you should be able to make it to 5 pull ups, then each week try and do the same or one set more.

Water fast, run, don't eat garbage.

>tfw just ate an extra large pizza and a 500ml tub of ice cream