/fa/ - Fashion

here's the original picture i submitted early last year with in my first /fa/ post in case anyone remembers me (this is probably 2 months before i got into the industry)

and another one i used as well in the original post (even though i hate this picture so much)

from a photoshoot a couple of weeks ago in nyc

a splash zone shoot from a few weeks ago as well, also in nyc

>>8380055
woah you're like the white kim sang woo with those cheek bones
grats on getting signed and shit, good luck w/ future castings

how much gay shit have you done to make it in the industry

have you fucked any model girls

etc etc

your cheeks and ears are ridiculous mang

congrats on the gigs and enjoy, here's to you

>>8380047
your hair looks much better like this. might be the angle tho

>>8380062
thanks mayne that's nice of you. that guy's bone structure is insane holy shit

>>8380042
haha i do remember u
glad to hear uve made it

Woo, glad everything worked out 4 u!!

>>8380065
no gay shit yet lol. you'd be surprised i think the biggest lie of the male modeling industry is that a lot of them are gay. haven't met a single one yet that isn't straight. i have a girlfriend out here who is also a model (tfw qt3.14 5'11" 105lbs gf) but yeah she's cool
also the print design on this shirt is so fucking cool

>>8380075
thanks!
>>8380066
yeah, it's probably just the angle. idk what to do with my hair really. thankfully ive been lucky enough to get the bone structure i have where i won't look horrendous if my hairstyle doesn't fit me very well.
>>8380069
lol good to know it was at least a little bit worth it if someone remembers my original posts

What do your parents look like?

wearin that good louis v

>>8380134
pretty normal actually i have no idea how it happened. my mom modeled a little bit when she was younger (but like california editorial stuff, nothing real) but i guess my dad is pretty good looking. nothing crazy though. it's bizarre.

hey tyler!
i dont know you but you know one of my friends i guess, recognized u from this thread
im really excited for you!! congrats!

>>8380159
o shit man not this thread but the first time you posted. anyway yea, congrats. i hope ill be gettin out of arizona soon

>>8380159
>>8380168
Wow, that's crazy. Thanks, man. I had no idea anyone in Flag or AZ was on /fa/ but that's really nice of you. And yeah, Arizona is horrible wish you luck getting out lol
(some older work)

ugh i need to work on my pecs so skinny it's ridiculous

grats dude
make sure to give us a shoutout when you can

>>8380208
I'll do my best lol. now that i think about it i mentioned /fa/ as my favorite fashion blog in a recent editorial for project 85 mag a few weeks ago

>tfw no model friends to go out shopping with
W-would you hang out with me in NY

>>8380202
>looking this good at 18 yo
god damn nigga full jelly

btw do you have a rad model crew

>>8380241
yeah mayne the model apartment i'm living at has six other RE:Quest models (all way more successful than more). their portfolios:
http://requestmodels.com/details.aspx?nav=&subid=7982&mainsubid=7982&modelid=498535&sexid=1&a=26
http://requestmodels.com/details.aspx?nav=&subid=7982&mainsubid=7982&modelid=535702&sexid=1&a=37
http://requestmodels.com/details.aspx?nav=0&subid=7984&mainsubid=7984&modelid=708949&sexid=1&a=38
they're all a lot older than me though (~20's) so we don't really hang out too much (esp. since i can't go to bars and shit) but they're cool. diego is the most successful one - got started modeling givenchi and shit, pretty big across editorial and runway everywhere

>>8380240
yeah man definitely. need some friends out in nyc bc i still don't know too many people. actually back home in arizona for a month or so at the moment but going back to ny after that so shoot me a friend request on fb or instagram me or something and once i'm back for sure (i'm just totally giving up on the idea of not having my name posted so just look me up : tyler mcferson

>>8380221
uh oh

some older shit from a couple months ago

>>8380311
i hope i don't bring more cancer to if so i'm sorry /fa/ gods. but it's a pretty solid magazine with some rick owen-type shit in it a lot so it's not like there'll be a ton of teenage high schoolers coming in w bad tryhard dadcore shit
(i think this one was from my first photoshoot yeah)

>>8380024

What kind of people do you meet at work? Met any cool designers/stylists/models?

again with the pecs thing way too skinny :(

how does a 19 yr old get into the industry? am I 2 old?

>>8380299
not that anon but i looked you up on fb and you and your gf are hella cute
happy birthday too btw

>>8380344
Yeah, everyone is pretty great. It's weird that they say that the industry is so brutal because everybody I've met with has been awesome. agents, casting directors, models -- everybody. The designers and photographers are most interesting though because you get to see them try to fit you into their artistic vision and while you may not get it at first, in post it just sorta pops out what they were thinking with a shot or an article of clothing or whatnot. the most 'famous' models i know are my roommates really (and some 'model' from dem white boyz on vine with like 5 million followers but he was a little.. idk. i don't think he really counts as a model since most of the signing work is a promotional stunt obviously). but my agents know the agents for a couple supermodels which is fun

>>8380277
Nah man you're heaps better looking then those guys..

You're gonna make it man, and I'm incredibly jealous

>>8380368
nah man most people in the industry are a lot older than i am. i just started a bit early. the female model industry is a lot more concerned with that sorta thing and being too old and that sorta shit (men get to stay in the industry forever in comparison to girls). i know some 26-27 yo male models, so go for it. i think it goes even beyond that maybe idk. as far as getting into the industry, just attend open calls and send in pictures as 'wikihow' as that sounds. if you've got a cool look, you will definitely get picked out of the rest. also it's easier bc so few new males attend open calls / send in stuff (as opposed to girls where every girl thinks they can be a model.) also don't cross off big agencies bc you think you won't get noticed. the scarcity of males having the balls to get started helps you for agencies of all sizes.

>>8380371
thanks man. yeah, ugh she's the best. dunno how i managed that but love her

Inspiration. Happy for you brah, we're all gonna make it.

>>8380454
thank you man. i really just want to express my appreciation for how much /fa/ changed my life by pushing me towards this and i'm trying to give back somehow. so being called inspiration (while unwarranted bc i have no idea what i'm doing in any way really) actually means a lot. like what
(LA fashion magazine, but i hardly recognize myself bc eyeliner and lots o photoshop skin blendin)

holy shit i remember that thread last time you were here, congrats man

>>8380409
thank you i hope so man we'll see
(sorry for the shitty quality, i've had to use the snipping tool the best i can to get versions of these below like 20 megapixels. so they look a lot better high res)

damn im hella jelly of your looks dude

w my shitty underwear penciled out so /fa/ doesn't hate me

>>8380509
thanks yo
>>8380489
cool man that's awesome thank you

ignore the weird color combo

some rick hoens / slutty amish farmboy for ya /fa/

congratz man! good for you!

>>8380432
thanks for the tips man.

glad to see someone put /fa/ to actual use

>this motherfucking jaw game

I'm kind of in the same position as you man. I'm 20, 6'3", 160 lbs (but skinnyfat as fuark), and people are always asking me if I'm a model/actor/etc. What does your diet look like? At one point I was down to 145 but I still had no ab definition... Specific workouts/cardio regiments?

I'll add you on fb :^)

Holy shit what

>>8380143
are your legs shaved? how much makeup/ hair etc work/time goes into a shoot?

>>8380668
if i have a big shoot coming up or something, i do a week on, week off thing with protein shakes and creatine where i stick to carbs on the week off with pretty much only cardio stuff and on the week on do more vegetables and shit instead of cardio i just bench, pullups, pushups, curls, leg lifts, some stuff w a medicine ball. i dunno man honestly i rely on my metabolism and i just don't eat a lot and workout occasionally. sorry i couldn't be more help.

>>8380024
I am in NYC, every day I interact with new people I am asked if I model, every time I post here and throughout tumblr people give me a lot of compliments and say I should model.

The issue is I am 5'11" I sent my pictures into this industry person who said they loved my face but wanted measurements and so I never responded back.

Is there a point doing this? I do not want to be a low tier model. I want enough work to atleast do this full time a year and do it as my sole occupation.

Wwyd?

>>8380805
i shave my thighs bc it makes what little muscle i have there (as i really never have worked on my legs) more accentuated, but never calves. for guys, there's often no makeup for what they call test shoots (which are free for both the photographer and the model where they both get to use the pics for their portfolios) and hair is often improvised or done quickly. test shoots typically can go between 4-8 hours, sometimes more or less. the paid ones on the other hand can run up to a twelve hour workday (probably 3 for hair, makeup, wardrobe if there are other models) because they like to have some diverse shots. i spend most of the time during paid/real shoots on my phone or waiting, because getting lighting and stuff set up can take hours on its own. so yeah, i'd say they average out to a ten hour workday but bc you're not doing anything for the majority of it, it's really exhausting.

>>8380835
Sorry not tumblr throughout 4chan

>>8380042
i remember u lolll wtf why do i remember ur face

So how much do you get paid? Can you make a life-long career out of this?

>>8380042
jesus fucking christ you have nigger lips

>>8380835
the tricky thing is that because the market is so saturated, a lot of times industry people won't get back to you either because they forget or because something else came up.. my trick for that sort of situation is to keep in contact with as many industry people as possible but keep it all surface level in terms of your commitments / your reliance on each person. they most often will put a bit of effort into a new face or someone they see potential in, but not enough to where you should be relying on one guy, you know? just try to give the impression to those sorts of people that your commitments aren't forever and that you're looking out for you. as shitty as it sounds, just make acquaintances in the industry. make lots of connections but never rely on them alone. i havent had too much exp with this sort of thing but the one thing i'd say is that you really should use the internet to your advantage - send in pictures to all sorts of agencies (even if they're not your ideal agency) so that you're not ever leaning on the support of one or two people.

also if you're 5'11" (unless you're really on the edge between 5'10" and 5'11") just say you're 6' which sounds an insane amount better than 5'11". most often they won't measure you on the spot and if they do you can correct your posture to be a little taller than usual. for example, i am factually 6'3" but 6'2" comes off better so i say that and nobody has really cared.

i'd definitely say keep trying though it's (cont)

>>8380896
No I mean I sent my face and they wanted measurements and full body pictures but I didn't and kinda left them hanging

:-/

Its stupid, they seemed really excited I just kinda felt it wasn't worthless and I wasted their time.

>>8380896
definitely a living once you break in, but for most people that can take years at a time. chances are it'll be a while before you're able to do it as your sole occupation, as much as i hate to say it (i got extremely lucky with my situation). but in your case i'd say stick with smaller agencies because they're able to cater more to your niche market (if you say you're six foot, you'll be perfectly fine getting an agency so long as your look is interesting), whatever it is. the only problem is that it's sometimes difficult to tell if the smaller agencies are good for you or not.. which i honestly havent figured out yet. it's really difficult to tell unless it's too late but just use your senses - look for ones that look purposefully selective. market yourself across different niche markets using different pictures for different agencies (some are more edgy and some are less so) and you'll have broken into the industry soon enough. hope that was helpful.

>>8380928
Thank you, I appreciate the help :)

I only know about Soul Artist and the other big name agency pies so how do I find boutique once? How do I get pictures? I am kinda lost in all that.

I am basically a San Francisco hippie who ended up out here :-/

>>8380883
you definitely can if you're patient but it's difficult for most models. once you've been in the industry for a couple years though, things start getting a lot easier. as far as my salary goes, i guess a liberal estimate for how much i'll make this year would be like ~65k maybe a bit less. i did a lot of editorial this year which pays more though. and yeah, i guess you could make a lifelong career out of it (especially with the male market e.g., david gandy) but your market potential shrinks hugely after like 33-ish or so i've heard
>>8380912
ooooooooooooohhhhh okay i get you now. don't worry about it; there are way more opportunities. you shouldnt beat yourself up over it bc it's after the measurements and that sorta thing that you'll be able to tell if an agency is the right fit for you. so had you sent in measurements and pictures and all that, it still might not have been a good fit.

>>8380663
<3

man bro I'm so jealous of your jawline

I got high cheekbones and a little bit strong jawline, but I guess it's not enough for modeling

I just hate life, some people are born like you and then genetics fuck me over like this ;_;

really hope everything works out for you and you get big
good luck bro

oh and one question
how stuck up are the model girls there?
towards you/other models and "normal people"?

>>8381009
The question we've all been waiting for.

>>8380949
>65k

Wut, why do I have a hard time believing this.

>>8380024
Do companies let you keep some clothes? Or give you like bonuses in the form of clothes?

>>8381009
very stuck up. it's not even funny. basically male models just fuck girls, smoke weed, workout, and sleep whenever they're not shooting or w/e. i swear to god at the model apartment we do those things and watch surfing videos together. that's it. it's a pretty relaxed environment and because everyone knows they're at least pretty good looking, there's no real competitive shit or anything like that. it's perfect because everybody is just content with everything going on in their lives all the time. female models on the other hand... i think it stems from the fact that a surprising number of girls are constantly trying to be models but can't whereas with males it's rare for the average guy to just spontaneously get into it: attractive guys don't feel inadequate just because they aren't male models whereas with girls it's a point of weakness to not have an objective measure of beauty like a modeling contract. basically i think the ultimate measure of beauty for a girl who's actually gonna get into modeling is having 'model status' so when she finally gets it and when it moves her out to nyc where people treat her like royalty she becomes a psycho self-obsessed egomaniac (almost like kanye but w/o the great music to show for it). i can't even put it into words it's so weird. none of my roommates will fuck model girls period (with a few exceptions here and there) which should say a lot given what they're sacrificing.

>>8381054
i'll admit, i am being liberal. that's a best case scenario assuming i get all the jobs i'm up for and that things work out exactly as planned. they likely won't which i'm absolutely willing to acknowledge. but that is a very real figure were things to go totally right in my career over the next couple months -- and even off that, the year is like halfway over so i'm just taking what i expect to make off summer/spring stuff and doubling that to compensate for the winter season. it's not perfect, i admit, but i said i was being liberal and my salary (before taxes) very definitely will be in that ballpark. you've got to realize i do this 9-5, 5 days a week. i moved to new york city - the most expensive city in the world - for this so it's safe to say that it's not a hobby for me at this point. it's a job.

>>8381085
yeah it's kinda shitty though because when that happens you have to forfeit actual money which sucks. so yeah, they do but only the stingy smaller companies. not bonuses though no.
>>8381054
it cut off the rest of my comment but basically expenses for travelling and stuff (which i often pay myself) make this a lot lower than it seems and also taxes off the top. i dunno man i just tried to give an estimate, not trying to be disingenuous - i haven't even been doing this for a year so as i said i just doubled what i expect (excluding expenses) from the non-winter/fall season yo.

>>8381091
dang dude, that sounds dope af. glad u made it bro

>>8381121
So not even the designers (Burberry, LV, etc.) give out gifts?

Are there any necessities a model MUST have before they can be even considered by agencies, physical wise?

I remember your old thread. glad you made it, you seem like a genuinely nice guy. wishing you the best.

>>8381213
also happy birthday

congrats OP but tbh i don't find you attractive. you definitely have the model look but being a model doesn't mean you're attractive

post pics of gf

>>8381170
Not OP, but my friend walked in the past two Saint Laurent shows and he got to keep both of the outfits. Ironically, he knows absolutely nothing about fashion and when I told him he could sell a jacket for 5K he literally said, "Why the fuck would anybody do that?" Such is life. He wears the clothes when he goes out though, so he knows they're special he just doesn't understand it.

>>8381248
which one of these ugly faggots is your friend

>>8381261
Hahahaha none of those guys actually.. His name is Rex Osterkamp, he has a band called Rexx, they're from Orange, CA. Look them up!

Happy birthday man. This is a long shot, but in terms of making it in the acting industry, what should I be doing?
Thanks brotha. Also, I don't know if I speak for others when I say this, but I really appreciate that you came back to this board to help us all out, even when you've made it. You're a pretty chill guy. Do you have a snapchat?

>>8381278
Not OP again, but honestly the first step, obviously, is to get very physically fit. And not in the /fit/ sense of the word, just very lean and have everything tight, no jiggling and no fat, just pure muscle. After you've either lost weight or gained muscle (preferably both), get a versatile haircut and make sure you keep a close shave to have clear skin. Once the looks are there have a friend take a front, side, and full body photo of you standing in front of a blank wall with no facial expressions (you can suck in those cheeks a bit though, all models do it especially when on the runway). Send in those photos to agencies close to you, it's EXTREMELY helpful if you live in NY, LA, Paris, Milan, or London, and if not find some in the biggest city closest to you. If you live in Florida, Miami; if you live in Washington, Seattle, etc. They'll get back to you if you're generally 6'1"-6'3" and are either clasically handsome (think RJ King) or have a unique look (Cole Mohr). But aside from that, you can go to open calls (mainly in the cities I mentioned) and try those as well, but make sure to ring in those photos with you as well so they have something to remember you by. Above all else, having a soccer player's body is typically ideal (i.e: Edinson Cavani) and can work for designers/brands ranging from Dior Homme to Versace. Don't be an asshole and you can get jobs! :)

>>8380024
okay so i was wondering how much height has an effect on my chances for any modeling..i'm very short like embarrassing i don't even want to anonymously post it short...i think i do well enough with facial aesthetics (maybe) but i'm more concerned about my height

>>8380024
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>>8381307
see:>>8381306

>>8381306
Being asian can't help can it

Pic related, my headshot

i always believed in u

>>8381329
hello danielfoshizzle

>>8381329
Well, not being rude at all, but you're very normal looking; if you know what I mean? Noma Han is a notable Asian model, and it's because he's very striking. If anything, I think losing weight (restrict caloric intake and do some cardio) to expose your potential facial aesthetics. There's African models, Brazilian models, Caucasian models, Asian models, etc. you just have to see what you're made of (literally lol)

>>8381342
But I'm trying to get into acting of some sort. There's no hope for me making it into serious modeling with my face and height.

>>8381341
How do you....

>>8381147
Thanks man, that's nice of you.
>>8381170
Not for me, though it depends on the designer obviously I guess
>>8381195
there are niche markets for just about anybody that still has a symmetrical face (however disproportionate it is doesn't matter e.g., a lot of the more edgy looking models) but for the big agencies, it boils down to height really - the designers aren't gonna custom make something for a 5'6" frame or a 6'5" one most always. But weight and stuff is variable on the market. LA is more editorial and thus is more muscular whereas ny (while it's really both as it's the fashion capital of the world) is a bit more thin for runway stuff and Europe is very thin. So yeah, have symmetrical features and an interesting look and you definitely have a shot
>>8381213
>>8381225
Thank you, that's really nice of you.
>>8381238
Well, yeah. Being a model doesn't make someone attractive, and it doesn't particularly bother me that you don't find me attractive as everybody has their preferences and stuff. I'm willing to post pics of myself and out myself to /fa/ because it's me doing it and if anything happens out of it is my fault, but can't do that to my girlfriend because then she has to deal with the consequences of me posting her on an image board she's never heard of which is unfair to her.
>>8381248
he wears runway clothes on the street? that is the most insane thing i've ever heard holy shit. your friend is brave wow i'd just end up putting it in a box forever for safe keeping.
>>8381278
i'm sorry man, i'm not very well versed on the acting world. sorry i can't help. thank you though for the kind words, just trying to repay my debt to /fa/ because everyone here made me start this whole crazy thing really. my snapchat is tylermcferson, i think (i'll check in a couple minutes)

>>8381352
HELLO DANIELFOSHIZZLE HOW ARE ALL OF THOSE JOB APPLICATIONS GOING DID YOU GET THE JOB AT BROOKS BROTHER OR MAYBE BARNEYs

>>8381306
I'm relatively fit by /fa standards. I really appreciate all the help. If op is still here, I want him to know that he's a big inspiration to me, and I'm sure that he's inspired a lot more people in this thread as well

>>8381358
WHO IS THIS

>>8381359
Nah . You aren't .

>>8381306
all of this is great
.>>8381307
there are definitely some niche markets where height doesnt matter but sadly as a whole the larger market i think you'll have a harder time with. it's just a matter of having a common profile for clothes to fit.
>>8381311
ugh i know i need to learn how to be more concise with this stuff.
>>8381340
oh wow i haven't seen that picture in a long time i love you anon

>>8381369
lol yea he is skinnyfat / fat bearmode jelly fag detected

>>8381349
Well, in regards to acting, you either have to be extremely attractive (Kutcher, Cruise, etc. and as you already know height isn't a factor in acting). Or you can actually be a talented actor or just be an epic funneh xD faggot and make it, think Jonah Hill or Seth Rogen. They're both fat ugly fucks but because they're "likable" they get noticed. You have a pretty friendly face (and btw the second shot of you is 100X better, use that one) so I think if you took some classes or studied on your own you could land a gig. If you don't already live in LA and really want to make it in the entertainment industry you pretty much have to move out there. I'd recommend graduting/getting a degree first since the chances won't come knocking. Have a back up plan.

>>8381374
Lol'd

>>8381269

hahaha holy shit thats where im from

can 5'8 into fashun mayl muddle?

>>8381386
Sure, just not runway

>>8381386
Commerical, yes. Actual fashion, no.

>>8381382
Lol I'm from Dana Point actually but that's a coincidence! There's a huge garage rock scene out there.

>>8381393
>>8381392
so no then

>>8381329
>>8381349

pic related is the same guy, just to show you what photoshop and angles can do

yikes

i'm surprised that you're able to post your stuff OP, most of the models i've talked to have only a few pics or outdated stuff because their agencies literally own their likeliness. are you going to get in trouble from your agency for posting these?

do sandniggers even have a chance in the big modeling market? is race important?

>>8381398
Not as far as /fa/ is concerned since runway is obviously a huge influence regarding body type and dress

>>8381401
hey daniel
I enjoyed ur recent snaps

>>8381401
Does everyone not have an off day?

>>8381359
you're definitely fit by any standard. i dunno what that anon is talking about - if you look like that in mediocre lighting then you've got nothing to worry about bodywise. i can't really speak for how the acting industry works because that's not my world but thank you so much anon for the words. That really means a lot.

>>8381404
Well, if you're a Caucasian/Mediterranean sandnigger (Lebanese, Israeli, Turkish/Syrian/Greek) then yes. If you're Pakistani/Saudi tier then no. AJ Abualrub is Atlantoid (one Anglo parent and one Mediterranean parent).

>>8381414
Thanks! Whoever this might be....

>>8381405
>>8381431
Meant for u lel

>>8381419
lol, the stark contrast between his candid shot and the model shots is too much for it to be a bad day. even if that was a bad day, i don't expect him to look any different than some regular SE asian guy you'd find everywhere you go

>>8381404
nah, it hasn't been that way for me at least with my agencies. maybe for others it's different but i have pretty much full control over what i do with most pics so long as i credit photographers if it's on social media
>>8381405
race is irrelevant as long as you have a marketable look. a lot of the industry imports from countries like brazil and the d.r., that sorta thing. haven't seen too many middle eastern models now that i think about it but from what i've seen, all that matters is the look
>>8381386
editorial stuff yeah just exaggerate your height a bit and you'll be fine.

>>8380024
saint laurent
> :^)

>>8380109
w2c that shirt, m8?

>>8381357
About symmetrical faces, Sean O'pry isn't very symmetrical and he's everywhere right now. Is the market willing to overlook a slightly bent nose or crooked mouth if everything else is good?

>>8381419
>off day
>suit

>>8381405
you have to be good looking, m8
listen
people want models that are ambiguous brown people
i've had vry micro success mudiling and i think it's because i look like so many ethnicity's and also cause i'm a vry social person as of liquor.

Where did you submit your pictures to?

I'm also trying to get into modeling

Congrats, OP

Really happy you're making it. :3
Don't become a douche though!
ily

>>8381357
JUST SENDED U AN SNAP
ADD ME FRIEND

CHEERS
A

>>8380277
Why do you need an apartment filled with models? What's the advantage of all living together.

op 5' 11 latino here, kind of dark like a 7/10 on that alone what are my chances on in making it
also jelly levels are through the roof atm

oo i remember that thread

props =)


mfw i live in swiss shithole, no prospects

>>8380109
Fucking cool shirt, w2c?

>>8381640
Cheaper and closer to go-sees and stuff in lower Manhattan

>>8380896
wait why is 6'2" more desirable than 6'3"?

>>8381504
pls respond </3

>>8380024
nice man congratz on your success!

>>8380109
w2c shirt

tfw /fa/ really made it
congrats op

if anyone is looking for 5'9 chubby models from the uk hmu im sick of working in retail

>>8381269
Know shears? Both of em?

CONGRATS ANON, YOU FUCKING MADE IT.

You're an inspiration to us all;_____; you glorious bastard

good for you man

u are living the dream

we all gonna make bruh

>>8381674
presumably because 6'3 is a bit too tall

Zyzz of /fa/.

Congrats! you seems like cool dude.