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DERBY THREAD
alternatives to CPs

would appreciate input and opinions

>> No.8210422

rw postman

>> No.8210424
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>> No.8210431
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>> No.8210437

>>8210422
i don't like the all black, it reminds me of what i had to wear in high school

>> No.8210439
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raf

>> No.8210444
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>>8210422
>>8210437
these

>> No.8210452

>>8210439
these are way more expensive than CPs though

>> No.8210457

Anyone got any derby inspo? I just grabbed a pair of CP's off grailed

>> No.8210470

>>8210457
post fit

>> No.8210473

>>8210470
bought them yesterday they're still in the mail

>> No.8212718

>>8210414
Sauce on these OP?

>> No.8212722

>>8210457
time 2 invest in some cropped trousers m8

>> No.8212723

>>8212718
Poste.

>> No.8212770

whats the difference between oxfords and derbies? Is it mostly just the sole?

>> No.8212774

>>8212723
What's a Poste?

>> No.8212788
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>>8212770
It's how the section with the laces is connected to the rest of the shoe. In derbies it's left open like in the left shoe? Oxfords it's fused with the rest if the shoe.

>> No.8212795

>>8212774
http://www.office.co.uk/view/product/office_catalog/1,71/1626402923

>> No.8212805

Docs (tumblr tier)
RW 3103
Poste Toro (OP)
COS (low quality)
RW Postman (all black)
RW Plain Toe
Grenson Curt (closest to CPS)
Grenson Toby

>> No.8212809

>>8212805
What's your opinion on the RW Postman Chukkas? Not sure whether to get them or just the normal Postmans.

>> No.8212837

>>8212809
You're probably better off getting black Chelseas

>> No.8212849

>>8212837
I don't like Chelsea Boots, honestly. Too effeminate for my style. I prefer Chukkas much more.

>> No.8212909

has anyone got any derby fit pic inspo?

>> No.8212927

>>8212849
Well ok. Yeah I guess RW Postman Chukkas are good if you want something in full black. Quality's good for the price

>> No.8212936

>>8212927
Which would you prefer, the oxford Postmans or the Chukkas? I can't really decide. I wish it was actual black instead of chaparral, however. But eh, can't choose.

>> No.8212942

>>8212837
Speaking of which, I'm currently having a hell of a time finding decent black chelseas. I'm looking for something between the shit hm ones and the way too expensive slp ones. Any suggestions? I found nothing from CP or APC, and nothing else I can think of.

>> No.8212954

>>8212942
RM Williams is somewhere in between.

>> No.8212955

>>8212942
Cole Haan maybe

>> No.8212962

>>8212955
Nothing there as far as i can see.

>>8212954
According to style forum, "The thing that makes Chelsea boots by RM Williams a rare bird and highly collectable is that they are a wholecut Chelsea boot." etc etc etc so yeah no.

>> No.8212967

>>8212962
It's called Stanton

>> No.8212979

>>8212795
Poste are actually really good for the money. Made in Italy and fully leather. I got some Chelsea boots from them for £150.

>> No.8213010
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>>8212909

>> No.8213064

>>8212979
Planning to cop them to hold me over till I get CPs

>> No.8213151

>>8212770
Derbies: Open lacing
Oxfords: Closed lacing

Nothing to do with anything else like sole, toecaps or broguing.

>> No.8213163

>>8210431
when people say size down are they saying one full us size or are they talking about how uk sizes are one size larger than us sizes

>> No.8213189

>>8213010
w2c coat or something similar?

I really like this fit

>> No.8213219

>>8210424
Could you tell me where these are from? They look nice, but reverse search doesn't help.

>> No.8213228
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I'd have to cop this as TTS (says select UK size on their US site, not sure why).
Hopefully it fits good.
Cheap, look good and I know what to wear it with, think they're fine for "streetwear" and more formal use.

>> No.8213232

>>8213228
docs are tacky for formal use

>> No.8213237

>>8213219
I have seen them somewhere, and I can't fucking remember where. I'll find them, give me some minutes.

>> No.8213240

>>8213228
>formal use
>docs

Never do that

>> No.8213251
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trickers x superdenim

>> No.8213253

>>8213232
>>8213240
It's better than what I have now.
They're like £15 converse clones from Brantano, so I'd feel better in these at least.

>> No.8213266

sizing on post toros?

>> No.8213269

>>8213253
If you're after a Derby go for something sleeker than 1461s. Don't listen to what /fa/ says, their hella chunky silhouette makes them pretty limited in how many different kinds of outfit you can work them into.

>> No.8213283

>>8213253
don't kid yourself mate, docs are still utter shite

>> No.8213387

>>8212967

Yes, and they don't stock it at the moment.

>>8212979

Damn, they're not making chelseas at the moment, shame.

Still on the hunt for nice sub-1000$ chelseas then.

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anyone?

>> No.8213825

>>8213434
They're cool but only for the sole which get dirty after one wear.

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PRADA

>> No.8213829

>>8213269
>>8213283
Hey I'm up for suggestions instead of trashtalk. :)

>> No.8213833
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did they discontinue 1461 monos?

>> No.8213839

>>8213825
Derbies aren't for nature hikes.

>> No.8213854
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>>8213829
Red Wing Postman shoes are pretty nice, Beckman for a little more of a formal look and a leather sole but more expensive.

They're not the sleekest but they look a lot less ungainly than the docs.

>> No.8213862

>>8212962
I don't understand. what's bad about them being wholecut?

>> No.8213867

>>8213833
They're not in production anymore, I opened a ticket and that's what they said to me.

>> No.8213879

>>8213862
Wholecuts are generally pretty darn expensive

>> No.8214240

>>8213862
Nothing bad about them being wholecuts, I couldn't care less. It's a good thing. However I don't want to search everywhere for a used pair of a very rare and collectable item. That's just on par with SLP, i.e. back to the starting point.

>> No.8214298

>>8213827
posting oxfords
fuck off

>> No.8214763

>>8214240
oh ok. I'm pretty sure williams retail for around 500 though, so that's already substantially less than SLP would be

>> No.8214938

i have size 14 mens feet

is there a similar type of shoe that i can wear that won't make it look like i have clown feet?

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>>8210424
thought it was the same shoe for a second.

i prefer mine though, the lining in the back looks a little weird in those.

>> No.8215158

Can you guys explain to me the difference between derbies, oxfords, and all those "dress" shoes? I'm honestly completely clueless, ignorant, and curious.

>> No.8215192
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8215192

i love my red wings <3


>>8215158
derbies have eyelets under the shit
oxfords have eyeslets over the shit
idk it's something like that

>> No.8215237
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>>8215158
This is a guide that kinda explains it

>> No.8215248

>>8215237
Thanks!

>> No.8215256

>>8215158
you came to the wrong place

retards here call derbies oxfords all the time

just google derby oxford difference

>> No.8215262

>>8215256
Alright, will do.

>> No.8215363

>>8213163
one full US size

>> No.8215381

>>8214763
yes but there's still the pain of tracking them down, which I already wouldn't especially enjoy for an item i'd really be hyped on, and i'm not. anyways, i guess i'll wait until something comes up, or eventually cop slp.

>> No.8215678

What's with the obsession of clunky derbies. Is there any that are mono black that are slimmer down but not extremely formal? I found some that looked decent at Payless but I'm not going to buy fake leather shitty Payless shoes.
The CP ones are ideal but I want a heel in the sole

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>>8215678
Like this? I dunno the brand but last I heard these were discontinued or something

>> No.8216163

>>8216160

Marc Jacobs menswear is always full of a good gem every now and then.

>> No.8216167

Are the black and white SLP derbies suitable for men? I've only ever seen men fits with the black and silver ones.

>> No.8216178

>>8216167

Pretty straightforward shoe, man. You're talking about the grosgrain trimmed ones, right?

>> No.8216180

>>8213879
>>8214240

A pair of RM Williams should set you back about $370USD, including shipping.

>> No.8216196

>>8216178
Yeah. Such gorgeous things they are.

>> No.8216201

>>8216163
Like? The only derby on their site right now is a blue suede one lol

>> No.8216218
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>>8216201

Every now and then. You gotta sift through a lot of bunk to get to the good stuff. It goes for the menswear in general. Pretty low batting average when it comes to great pieces, but you can always tell an MJ design from the sort of humor they imbue it with. I think of it as a sportier, more American sort of V&R sometimes.

>> No.8216221

>>8213237
vanishing elephant

>> No.8216275

>>8216218
V&R?

>> No.8216467

>>8215192
Ive heard some people diss them because they apparently age terribly. How are urs holding up?

>> No.8216502

>>8210431
Was about to cop the mono 1461 but I can't get a size down from the US site, since I'm a 9.
All I can get is TTS.
Am I fucked? Won't cop if they won't fit well.

>> No.8216531

>>8215192
goddamn this looks bad

>> No.8216611

>>8216531
Only because of the jeans. The shoes are very good.

>> No.8216615

>>8216502
Anyone? Don't wanna risk going TTS when everyone says go down.

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>>8210414

>> No.8216819

>>8216467
I've had mine for a few months now and I've worn them day in day out as an all around shoe - even in hard rain, snow, and even in mud and harsh conditions. Very sturdy and although there are harsh creases, the leather is so damn solid (looks new, just creased). I probably would be able to better answer your question in another half a year

>> No.8216844

>>8216615
im a uk10 in vans and i wear a uk8 in docs, but they're a little tight at the toe

>> No.8216862

>>8216819
Can you take a close up?

>> No.8216911

>>8216467
I have some they age well with proper care, better than some trip's CP derbies I think

>> No.8217007

>>8216911
Do you use shoes trees for your RWs?

>> No.8217056
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>>8216862
the marks and scuffs you see are all easily removable with just a hand towel and a little water
i ahven't cleaned them in a couple weeks

>> No.8217065
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just bought these last week actually, don't really know how to look after them they are;http://www.juliusmarlow.com.au/genre-24.html

>> No.8217080

>>8217056
One more question. How do they run? Tts or big like other rws and cps

>> No.8217081

>>8217007
yup

>> No.8217085

>>8217007
w2c cedar shoe tree?

>> No.8217102

>>8217085
buy from ebay or nordstrom

>> No.8217234

>>8217056
Thank you. They look very nice, and there was someone who posted >>8216467 about buying some used RW Postmans who bought them for about 40 dollars, and the previous was used day in day out (for a good two years I think he said, I cannot remember) by the previous owner and they looked fantastic still, so perhaps that will answer your question.

But thank you, I have made my mind up over copping them. Have to wait for my Docs return money then I can cop them.

>> No.8217378

>>8217080
.25-.5 size big depeding on how wide ur foot is

im an 8.5 TTS with wide feet
and 8.5 is still a little bit too big, i shoudlve gotten a 8

>>8217234
i also sold doc 1461s for my RWs good luck with ur purchase and enjoy

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does anyone know how the sizing for the cosstores derbys run?

>> No.8217435

>>8217085
picked mine up from nordstrom

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>> No.8217447

>>8217410
Don't cop, they're terrible quality.

>> No.8217453

>>8217410
cos shoes are as bad as hm

>> No.8217678
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What does /fa/ think of the suede CP derbys?

>> No.8217809
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Mono or no?
Are there better options for the price? I want to cop derbies but I don't want to go over $120.

>> No.8217883

>>8215192
you shouldnt wear them like that

>> No.8217885

>>8215192
he looks like he got tassered

>> No.8218863

Are derbys good summer shoes?

>> No.8218888

>>8217441
this looks like shit, they're rolled up too high or something. I think it's the double layer of contrast between the outer sole and your ankle.

>> No.8218975

>>8213010
>>8213189
2nd

>> No.8221093

bump

>> No.8221266

>>8210414
w2c "petite" looking derbies? I'm rather slender @6 foot 2. I have a pair of derbies that look kinda clownish on my body... can anyone recommend me a "smaller" shoe?

>> No.8221471

Docs derbies are so incredibly ugly it's unbelievable. The sole looks fucking disgusting and the three eyelets don't help.

>> No.8221893

>>8221266
Just get something with a slimmer toe box

>> No.8222266

>>8217809
Only you can answer that my friend. I think both versions look good in their own way

>> No.8222691

>>8221893
Thanks for responding.

Any partically brands I should look into?

>> No.8223193

>>8221893
>>8222691
i am also interested

>> No.8223320

>>8222266
For the 120 or so price range would you say they're the best I can get?

>> No.8223427

>>8223320
Yeah but that's because they're entry level tumblr-tier shit. Like the chucks of derbies

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>>8223193

>> No.8223525

>>8217441
Is it just me or do his shoes look too big for him? An odd question I know but they just do lol

>> No.8223533

>>8223525
They look fine

>> No.8226086

>>8223438
These look p good actually. Thanks m8

>> No.8226178

>>8212954
There was this one old dude in a meeting today with these delicious rm williams chelseas. he's had them for a while and they really aged well. They had a lovely deep lustre on the leather and I just wanted to stroke his feet

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>>8213854
They're nice but the upper ages like shit

>> No.8226213
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>>8226205
I'm currently stuck between them and the 1461 docs but the docs look like they age much better.

Although I'm looking for a similar casual shoe in all black with a ripple sole. Anyone got any recs?

>> No.8227256

>>8226213
why the fuck would you want a ripple sole tho

looks tacky as hell

>> No.8229038

>>8215192
w2c cropped pants?

>> No.8229630

>>8226205
>>8226213
wrong, I have some (used shoe trees) and they look better

>> No.8229657

Any suggestions for a moderately priced brand that fits people with straight feet? I mean feet that don't bent or taper at the toes. A lot of dress shoes seem to have a curve to them.

I tried a bunch of Florsheims recently and whatever last they use appears to be made for people whose feet bend about 45 degrees in the middle. My little toes want to burst out the sides of the shoe.

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>>8226213
clarks newby fly?

>> No.8229664

>>8229662
looks very poorly made. like worse than cos lol

>> No.8229671

>>8229664
mite just b the pic but i agree

>> No.8229822

>>8226205
>>8226213
They look nice aged still. Docs look like shit if not mono, and even then extremely chunky shoes.

>> No.8229936

ye, stuck between rw postman and mono docs too, that USA shit on rw postman looks bad tho.

>> No.8229994

I really want some brown 1461's

>> No.8230003

I've seen mono docs and 1461's in "street" fits, or /fa/ fits if that's the right term.
Is there any other shoe that I could get away with wearing to an interview, but are still /fa/?

Mono docs were perfect but I can only get TTS which is a bad idea.

>> No.8230018

>>8229671
>>8229664
eh they've got stiched soles they hold together decently
don't over-tighten them or the creases develop weirdly, good for price but yeah not great quality

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>>8229936
i own a pair and will one day get around to taking better pictures. i copped em for cheap and they came pretty beat. Ankles a little bit, sole wear and some creasing. honestly tho for what they are they're really solid. I found them to be a little small, wish i went tts.
also they're a lot sleeker than people think

>> No.8230631

>>8230003
Different anon but bump for interest.

>> No.8232845
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Can I wear docs 1960 to shorts?

>> No.8233213

>>8232845
Don't see why not.

>> No.8234158

>>8210414
>tfw just got oxblood cp for steal

>> No.8234248

>>8234158
>oxblood
I'm sorry.

>> No.8234270
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What about these?

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>>8234270

Or these?

>> No.8234914

>>8234248
>not knowing how beautiful oxblood irl
im sorry

>> No.8236242

>>8234914
I have them right in front of me together with the blacks. Guess which pair is going back.

>> No.8236254

>>8234278

So comfortable.

>> No.8237301

>>8210414
has anyone copped poste?
i want to see a fit
cannot find anywhere

>> No.8237631

How are Raf derbies? I don't really have any experience with his shoes. Are they good quality?

>> No.8237646

>>8234278
Fuck.
Wish these weren't so expensive.

Is there any other Puma shoes or something like this? Anything with the button twist thing is good.

>> No.8240181

>>8237631
bump

>> No.8240549

>>8236242
pic or didnt happen

>> No.8241548
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Clarks anyone?

>> No.8241551

>>8234278
>>8234270
obnoxious

>> No.8241560

>>8241548
What model are these? Really nice. Do they come in leather?

>> No.8241592

>>8241548
I have a pair of those - p nice, imo.

>> No.8241643

>>8241560
Desert Londons! And I'm pretty sure they don't, sadly.

>> No.8241886

>>8241560
They come in beeswax leather but not black leather.

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>>8237301
I have Poste Chelsea boots which are really nice. Poste is an inhouse brand of the UK shoe store called Office.

All of the Poste shoes are fully leather inner/outer and are made in Italy. Hard to believe when they're around the £125-£150 mark.

Pic related.

>> No.8241934

ill probs cop grenson curt when theyre on sale. bought a diff pair of grensons a couple of years back and theyve held up well

>> No.8242320

>>8241918
W2C knit?

>> No.8244474

>>8237631
bump

>> No.8245808

>>8237631
pls respond

>> No.8248052

>>8242320
i think I've seen this same picture, asking the same thing and he said it was from zara

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>> No.8248929

>>8248667
w2c???

>> No.8248931

>>8248929
Right is vanishing elephant. I can only assume left is the same

>> No.8250549

>>8248673
There are some of these up on grailed right now for cheap if anyone is looking for them. Size 11.5 I think?

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>> No.8250661

>>8250561
w2c omg

>> No.8250682

>>8250661

As per the file name, Public School x The Generic Man.

>> No.8250751

>>8250661
its public school
I want those so fucking badly

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should i keep?

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>>8252421

>> No.8252430

>>8252424
haahhhhah
they looked so nice at 1st pic
and such fucking CLOWNSHOES on 2nd

>> No.8252434

>>8252430
yeah that's what i'm worried about

>> No.8252436

>>8252421
>>8252424

No

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>>8252421
>>8252424
more

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>>8252461

>> No.8252483

>>8252461
do not cop
clown shoes