/fa/ - Fashion

> not cherry fucking with her

smoking is bad

>>8195938

>thinking the jeans are the problem

If you had any charisma or charm with women, you'd have made a joke about how you couldn't fish it out because of how skinny your jeans are and laughed it off. She'd have seen that you were confident and self-assured enough to make fun of yourself and would have giggled. You fucked up, not your jeans.

>>8195990
You forgot the part where he'd have tipped his fedora and smirked saying "Pardon for the delay, m'lady"

>>8195938
no qt is gonna notice u after your switch brah

>>8195980
FOR YOU

>>8196005
tell me about op, why does he put on the jeans

>>8195995
LOL

>>8195972
fyi cherry fucking is when she lights her cigarette of yours while you inhale

>>8195938
I love how self assured you are that the fault is in your jeans and not your Chef Boyardee chic personality. Better luck next time sperg lord.

> hanging out with friend since we just finished up first year of uni
> his sister in high school has friends over
> wearing my beeswax CDB
> one of them tries to make a joke and calls.my shoes cowboy boots
> actually laughed myself to tears when no one else found it funny

>>8196044
I call that buttfucking

>dressed basic as fuck in high school (hoodies, skinnies, vans)
>went through a lolsoindie urbie outties fase
>discover fa and realize I look like a try hard faggot
>have been saving up for a few really nice pieces after doing a lot of research
>sold almost all my clothes at consignment shops
>now in fa limbo cause half my shit is in the mail and half my shit I'm about to cop

when will it end /fa/ fuck

>>8196062
but you aren't lighting the butt

>>8196074
>>8196062
>>8196044
I've heard people call that a monkey kiss

kappa and reebok classics, what a combo

>realize I dress like shit
>no money for new clothes
>tfw

>>8195995
>implying being good with women is a bad thing

>didn't find proper black skinny jeans last time so bought these "slim" black jeans
>current black skinnies torn slightly on the ass and under the crotch
>have to really get around to getting new skinnies
>slim fit feels huge next to skinny fit
>hard to find black and white mid/hightop shoes for some reason
>current nice shoes have soles that are broken on the heels
>every time I look in the mirror I feel fine, every time I'm not I feel like my fit aint shit

At least now my dad can stop whining about me wearing too tight clothing
And I can go to my relatives' birthdays without dressing better than everybody else and possibly getting dirty looks

>>8196158
>implying that was being good with women

>Live in Alberta (Texas crossbred with Alaska)
>get stared at by cowboys in the suburbs
>get stared at by cowboys in clubs
>get stared at by cowboys in the downtown
>get stared at by cops in black uniform cowboy hats
>wearing white t-shirt and dark blue 511s

As the Quebecois say, fuck zis place.

>>8196070
It will never end anon. The day you start caring about fashion is the day you are forever un/fa/

>be out in the city at night
>Meet a really tall effay qt
>End up goining great and hang out in a bar all night
>bring her home and make out
>got het number
>only talks when i talk so decide to stop talking
>tfw

damn /fa/ wat do

>hanging out with a group of friends i havent seen in a while
>2-3 months into browsing /fa/ so im always noticing what people are wearing
>my best friends mom is really fashionable and always buys her son nice looking clothes that he never wears and complains about
>his gf is wearing one of his shirts, soft black scoop neck
>i say "wow thats a really nice shirt i like that a lot"
>get drunk through out the night and all i end up talking about is that shirt
>by the end of the night i ask for it
>"God anon why did we even invite you? youre so weird and creepy sometimes"
>she goes upstairs and changes
>i didnt talk for the rest of the night and went home shortly after
:(

>warmer weather
>more responsibility at work (testing me for a promotion i think)
>keep finding gr8 deals
feels good

>>8196389

>>8196013
HE DIDN'T FLY SO GOOD

>>8196389
did you get the shirt?

>>8196389
weird as fuck

>>8196401
for you

>>8196411
no :(

>>8196263
>wearing white t-shirt and dark blue 511s
>stares

lol huh?

>be visiting family
>wow anon you are so tall anf handsome you must have lots of girlfriends

n-not r-really

then inevitability they start to subtly hint you might be gay

>be 6'0
>everyone i meet always tells me "wow youre so tall"
>never know what to say so i reply with "haha thanks"
>they laugh

>>8196263
That's hardly true in a any larger area in Alberta. People don't dress well, but you won't get weird stares for wearing a white t-shirt and dark slim jeans. Anywhere with a decent student population is way more "Midwestern pleb" than "cowboy".

>>8196389
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

>>8196475
ask them to suck your dick instead

>>8196475
>be 6'2
>don't feel tall because came from a high school with most guys at around 6'0-6'3
>now like top 5 tallest person in my course at uni
>suddenly feel a lot more masculine

>still living with parents
>not getting money from anywhere
>mother buys £800 pug (we are not rich, she buys expensive dogs and then sells them after a month)
>sold it a week ago
>gets £700
>buys a £300 treadmill
>i ask for money
>get £50

What the fuck can I cop with £50? The treadmill will be gone within a month or two maximum.
Pathetic.

>>8196500
Actually it was bought for £1000 and sold for £800.
Even better right?

>>8196500
get a job then
>bawwwwwwwwww mummy wont give me more of her hard earned money

>>8196263
>quebecois
>french accent

try again buddy. more like fuck dis place.

Moving to Montreal next week. I'm pretty stoked. More places to buy cool clothes and do cool stuff, more people to appreciate it, etc.

Also I'm planning a trip to nyc this summer for shopping and museums, it's going to be awesome. Does any of you know good places to eat in nyc?

>>8196500
Nice profit

>>8196345
how is that effay

how is that a problem

>tfw your fuck buddy decides to call it off with you because she's starting to get feelings and has already bought tickets for a 5month trip.
>tfw effort to get laid again.

Had better days tbh /fa/

>>8195938
w2c shoes

>browsing /fa/ since 2009

>silently judging everyone, all the time, on their outfits

>spend 2-3 hours a day, every day, planning what I want to buy, where I want to buy it from, when I'm going to wear it
>40% of my bookmarks are SuFu, SF, grailed, ebay, rakuten, fuk and marktplaats classifieds
>the other 40% are from various retailers
>only save money for summer / winter sales.

At least my clothing is somewhat rare and what I consider to be stylish.

Thanks /fa/, I appreciate it.

>>8196603
Iktf but that is the risk of having a fuck buddy - they could leave at any time.

That's why you always have to keep your options open and keep talking to other girls. Why have one fuck buddy when you can have two?

Guys make the mistake of getting comfortable in a relationship that they should know isn't permanent.

>>8196475
6'0 tall
>top lel

>>8196593
The qt was effay Though so.
But Yeah you're right I just wanted to post some feels. And i dont know what to do with it m8

>>8196345
Only talk to set up dates.
That's the only way to know for sure a girl is interested. Don't get too wrapped up in thinking like "oh god shes not texting me she must like me" but also dont think that just because she is talking to you she's interested.

Set up a date and if she says no, GTFO

>>8196684
>marktplaats

Staat er wat op qua kleding ja ?

>>8195938
>Browse /mu/ and /o/ since 2011
>Decide to check out other boards a couple of days ago
>Read the /fa/ wiki
>Jesus christ they're right
>Realize my clothing is shit and i don't have the money to replace it


i'm aching to buy new shit

>have to redo your pinroll in public
>doesnt feel quite right

Op is fat

>>8196752
why arent you using pins?

>>8196750
Too bad your still a weeaboo and the mental problems that come with that are far too severe to be fixed. Even if you were able to pull off a good fit you'll still be too permanently socially stunted to ever get a GF :)

>>8196733
Yeah i might do that. If no than i will just move on.

>browse effay and look at all the hungry skeletons
>now everytime i look in the mirror i see a fat fuck even though i have a 30" waist

>>8196752
FEEELSSS

>>8196757
how 2.

>>8196389
top

>>8196767
i don't even watch anime
but you shouldn't bully people just because they do

>>8196263
Haha Shit man outside of like 1 week during stampede your not getting started at by cowboys unless your out in the burbs.

>>8196792
I'm right though. I'm not bullying, i'm giving him some realistic advice.
We all know he wants to get a GF, and as a result has realized his personal appearance is going to play a part in that (he thinks). Like it or not, a majority of people who come on /fa/ who are "new" to "fashion" do it because they are trying to increase their chances of getting laid.
However, I know that clothing plays little role in attracting women and that a guy can simply change his outlook on life and women and the bitches will flock to him.

It's going to be very hard to reach that stage after a lifetime of anime idealizations corrupt a guys brain. Big anime fans have the absolute worst idealizations about women than anyone.

I know 4chan was started to be an anime site, but that only enforces my point...

>drunk at party w friends
>talking to a bunch of diff. people
>friend whose house it is comes up to me
>he needs to tell me something
>his gay fraternity brother has a crush on me and asked if I were gay or straight
>dat self-confidence increase
>sitting on couch, notice girl i've talked to a few times before
>pale, curly haired jewish-looking girl
>my ultimate fetish
>she sits down, we talk about bullshit, i have my arm around her & another girl
>tfw have gf and can't make a move
>later downstairs talking to two friends
>girl sits down next to me, somehow my arm gets around her, 2 minutes later she's cuddling me and caressing my jeans
>set her up w my friend
>go outside and get the # of someone who makes dmt

my favorite part is that if i had never gone to a party this semester, i would have no idea that anyone finds me attractive
does anyone else get this feel?
I don't know if it's because i'm too introverted normally or kind of intimidating but I only get positive female attention at parties

>>8196818
You know, not everyone who watches anime wants their gf to be an anime character
And not everyone who watches anime does it 24/7 and is a fuckin weaboo nerd
And certainly not everyone goes to /fa/ to get a gf
You need to stop making rude assumptions about me and my hobbies

>>8196500
>Pathetic
Get a job faggot
>B-but im in highschool
I got a job junior year and had to pay for everything since then, including rent to my parents

>be skinnyfat
>have girlfriend (now ex) who weighs the same as me, but doesn't look like a landwhale, curves in all the right places
>she comes home, 'oh look what i found at the thrift store'
>it's some cheap, forever 21 floral print dress
>she looks lovely in it, while i'm struggling to look good in actual /fa/ pieces that cost 10-15 times what she spends on plebcore clothes
>my lovehandles and gut make me look disproportionate, while her weight doesn't affect her look at all
>try going to the thrift store, nothing fucking fits right ever

girls have an easy pass to looking good in clothes, i tell you hwut

>>8196825
Part of that attractiveness comes from your introverted personality, and also your lack of thirst due to having a GF adds to a girls attraction level towards you.

I've always struggled with being an introvert because girls constantly tell me i'm hot, look like a model, etc, but I see it as almost an insult sometimes and sometimes it is. Being "mysterious" makes you attractive because girls will fill in the blanks in their mind.

That is one difference between being ugly and attractive. Girls will associate an ugly guy with ugly "creepy" things, and a hot guy with attractive, "sexy" things.

This post is all over the place, but the point is that being an introvert can actually work in your benefit with girls, if you play it right.

>>8196872
>girls will fill in the blanks in their mind.
So true. Grills like me until I flat out tell them I play video games, browse a japanese-inspired anime image board, and do homework all day

>>8196881
Next time say it in a sarcastic tone like you're joking, and they'll love it.
If you don't have a good answer, or don't want to give an honest answer, just be sarcastic.
It's better than telling the truth.

>>8196500
>buys expensive dogs and then sells them after a month
what the fuck is wrong with your mother

>>8196886
I've never actually done that, but I'd imagine if I told anyone the truth I'd have no true friends :v(

>poorfag
>buy black skinnies from H&M
>love them, wear them daily.
>starting to fade
>starting to wish they were tighter
>wash them in hot, dry in hot, then put them on
>now they fit like a dream, but the black is fucked

Oh well. Better $30 jeans than $200 jeans.

>>8196818
I watch anime with my gf

>>8196869
just loose weight fatty

>>8196901
I used to have "Toonami" with my ex GF, which is when we would watch Pokemon, DBZ and Gundam Wing back to back like back when Toonami was still on.

Of course, back when DBZ was on Toonami Pokemon was still on WB but yea it was a fun way to get nostalgia.
Anime sucks though, and it does create a lot of fucked up and pathetic idealizations in the way guys think about relationships.

>>8196910

The last two women I've dated I watched anime with. They actually were as least as into it as I was, and I think part of the attraction that was I was a normal-looking, normal-sounding guy who they could share their nerdy interests with. As opposed to the stereotypical make anime fan who's a fat neckbeard who won't shut up about his Chinese girl cartoons.

>>8196901
>>8196910

The last two women I've dated I watched anime with. They actually were as least as into it as I was, and I think part of the attraction that was I was a normal-looking, normal-sounding guy who they could share their nerdy interests with. As opposed to the stereotypical male anime fan who's a fat neckbeard who won't shut up about his Chinese girl cartoons in public.

They both had good anime taste, too, although the recent one has some pleb tier shit mixed in there too.

>walking up street
>car going past on diff street
>see driver looking at me
>lel inside while listening to There Is A Light That Never Goes Out

>>8196500
stop being a fag

>>8196965

Pleb

>>8196684
what shoes are those

>>8197004
not even shitposting, but AF1

>>8196825
I also know this feel

thought I was ugly as fuck until I went to a party this semester and girls kept flocking to me, have been slaying at least one girl every weekend since

>tfw only fucked un/fa/ girls who aren't interesting
whatever

>>8195938
what shoes are those?

>>8196615
ETQ

>>8196787
I actually never tried using pins, and I don't think a lot of people use them in general but I just tried it out and it works pretty well. Basically just prevents the folded part from moving outwards and keep the cuff tight. Pic related for how I did it, pin goes through the two folds. Not the clearest pic but you should get the idea.

>>8197084
I use a small stripe of duct tape

>>8195938
>tfw fat
>tfw poor

>>8196500
>>8196500
that roughly equates to about 60 or 70 USD correct?
I've purchased the following for under $70:
1 pair of APC jeans
1 pair of Naked and Famous Jeans
1 pair of Levis Made & Crafted Selvedge jeans
1 pair of Converse First String sneakers
2 pairs of italian-made sneakers with stitched soles that aren't CPs
Red Wing oxfords
Doc Marten 1461s
Universal Works parka with removable lining
some other shit
If I remember correctly i couldve instead bought a bunch of quality APC/Our Legacy/Wings Horns/etc. basic tees and other stuff
everything was bought new on sale or secondhand with barely any (if any) use
plus it was my own money
enjoy the free cops you baby

>>8197084
or you could learn to pinroll correctly you fuckin nerd.

>>8197158

But how though

>>8197084
lmfao gr8

>>8197165
haha oh fuck that pic

>just wearing old flannel, Big Black t-shirt and raws with beat-up suede CDBs because I'm tired

>qts striking up conversations in the library a few times over the course of my two day stint

Sorry gurls, i'm engaged

Bit annoyed that me not giving a shit is apparently more attractive than me giving a shit, mind

>>8196475
lmao you're doing it wrong

when a girl walks up to you and says "you're tall" she's pretty much saying "I've always promised myself I'd wait a year before fucking a guy but I want your superior genetics. Please fuck me until you scramble my eggs."

>>8196733
>only talk to set up dates

Oh for fucks sake, 4chan is riddled with this bullshit advice you can just tell he got this off some /b/-tier infographic or pickup guide or some shit

christ just treat her like another fucking human being, if you wanna sit in the bath and talk to her on the phone for two hours then fucking do it
she might not wanna talk to you anymore after it but don't think it's cause she's all like "oh anons a pussy because he talked to me and didn't set up a date" maybe she just doesn't wanna fucking talk on the phone for two hours with some faggot she met once before at a bar and believe it or not not all women actually spend ages on the phone anyway, or maybe that's exactly what she wants and you end up fucking her anyway

don't be such a loser

>be violently high as fuck, on a bus
>experiencing egocentric existential inferno
>meet up with this one really weird looking kid who is sitting across from me
>stares at my ramones
>After 17 minutes or so of being in this state, I look at him
>He utters "nice dreamboxes"
>I'm so high I actually saw the sentence leave his mouth in green font, followed by a meme arrow
>I've prepared myself for converse comments but not for this
>Stare at him, his face looks kind of disfigured and devil-looking
>Forget what happened 10 seconds ago
>I look at my shoes and remember
>Came to the conclusion that arguing is meaningless and will only increase the chance of a stroke, which seemed like a very real possibility at that moment
>All I could muster up was a very drawn out, low pitched giggle
>Existential inferno resumes

>>8197242
>>I'm so high I actually saw the sentence leave his mouth in green font, followed by a meme arrow

haha, I actually laughed

>>8197223
m8 it's probably because when you actually try, they feel intimidated.
i now that feel

>>8197223
>>8197226

How good looking do you have to be to have girls initiate conversation with?

I'm like 7-8/10 have been told I could model, I don't think I've ever been approached by anyone in public and I'm at my University library just about everyday.

>>8195938
guys

how i into social life?

went through deep depression, still have it much of the time, but i pretty much lost all ties with other people

how to start again at 19?

mind you i live in a very small town

>thought I was over bitch exgf but still thought about her often. Not in the good way.
>a savior on Reddit tells me what's up. "What you're feeling isn't about her. I know you think about her and I know your stomach drops when her name runs into your ear, but it isn't her. blah blah blah"
>something just fucking clicks inside me and the gears stop grinding
>ex is still hung up on me and thinks I hate her for some reason
>makes excuses and plots ruses in order to get me to talk to her (many stories. Might share)
>finally get close to another girl, Aislinn
>I realize I didn't like her as much as I thought I did. The more I learned about her, the less I liked her.
>fuck up a few times and lose her. Bye Aislinn
>find another girl who just got out of a year long relationship, Ella
>we go on a few dates and get to know each other
>she's a bit of a prude. I kissed her once and she was all for it in the moment but later she asked what we were and she said she wasn't ready to be boyfriend and girlfriend yet and we should take it slow on the kissing. I like her so I play it cool. I don't freak out or anything. She really, really likes me. Doesn't want anybody else. She says she still wants to go on dates and get to know me and we can do other couple stuff though.
>yet another girl approaches me, Emily
>she tells me she's had a huge crush on me for months
>she was infatuated with me before even knowing my name
>go after her
>she's qt3.14 and effay as fuck. Really tumblry, minus the bad things about tumblry chicks
>Ella finds about Emily
>"Wow...she's really pretty..she's gorgeous."
>"eh yeah I guess. I think you're better looking than she is, but that's just me."
>juggling for a little while
>"I saw you walking with Emily...you guys looked really happy." Ella says she's "I'm surprised you still talk to me" because Emily's so gorgeous and she kisses me etc.

I like them both. Fuck.

What do?

>tfw /fa/ is turning into /r9k/

>>8197283
maybe because you're actually like a 5

>>8197291
>how to start again at 19?

lel. Life hasn't even started yet.

>>8197297
>many stories. Might share

yes please

>>8196752
dude go to the handicap stall.

>>8197297
Throw a coin.

>found an absolutely perfect centerpiece item
>for 1/5 of the price I would even pay for it
>quality would make japanese niche artisans jelly
>IT FITS LIKE SHIT

I didn't ask for this.. the only way I can wear them is it peaking under a jacket or something. goddamn it looks so good I can't decide tho. it just had to be tight and loose at all the wrong places

>>8197283
Uhh, I don't think I can objectively gauge my own attractiveness.

To answer your question, I have girls initiate conversation with me all the time. Sometimes it's just "hi", sometimes they walk up to me in Starbucks and ask me what I'm reading, sometimes they say "I like your hair...no I mean, it looks really good on you!"

I've been rated all about the scale though. I've heard "You have tons of objectively good features but you're still kinda ugly" and I've heard "Wow you're a straight fucking dime if you're not a male model you're squandering your gift."

If you're asking for advice, then I think you should concede that your looks aren't the best thing about you. Get your charisma up and initiate the conversations yourself. Once you're in conversation, it doesn't really matter how you got there. At that point, the only difference between me and you is that you have to try harder.

By the way, you're not an 8.

>tfw feel like certain people aren't interested in being friends with me
> At uni
> Always see same groups of people when go out
>at start of year they were friendly and normal to me
> Now when I see them they give me an unenthusiastic nod when we walk past each other in a club but are normal to other of my friends
>one looks like he tries to avoid contact with me and walks past me
>this hot girl who I got off with a few times now tries to avoid me and looks awkward around me when I see her
>tfw feel like someone slagging me off behind my back

>>8197297
Pick the one you like the most. "I like them both" is nice and all, but you just need to weigh things out and figure out who is more likely to be with you and make you feel good in 2, 3, 4 years.

>>8197317
post fit

>>8197337
>>tfw feel like certain people aren't interested in being friends with me

that's ok, not everyone is gonna get along with you.

>tfw appear unapproachable and probably am.

It's worse. I'm stuck to forever hang around the same people

>>8197325
I said 7-8 and there's no way I'm a 5 lol

>>8197231
Naw it really is that simple, and it can save a lot of time and uncertainty. If you feel like you aren't good at texting, which some people aren't, you can actually do more harm than good by trying to keep a conversation going.

Personally, i'm a googleplex times better talking to girls IRL than over the phone, so I try to avoid text conversations. Plus, if you get a girl used to minimal text conversation, the texts you do send her will seem like gold.

Set up a date, and gtfo.

This is an old text, but I still fuck her a few times a month, and can post several other examples of the exact same convo, with the exact same results.

I'm a decent looking guy.

I'm outwardly friendly.

I dress fairly well, but nothing too avant-garde or intimidating. Today I just wore shorts with a chambray shirt with rolled sleeves.

I've been told by so many people at my university this year that I seemed really unapproachable until they got to know me.

I'm moving soon, and I'd like to figure out why this could be before I get there and have to make new friends. I won't be fortunate enough to have classes with a bunch of people, so I won't have as many excuses to meet people.


So, what can a guy do to be less intimidating? What even makes someone intimidating? I mean shit, I smile all of the time, I'm always nice to people..I don't get it.

>>8197379
you don't happen to be an INTJ?

I dunno something about us makes people insecure as fuck that even being in the same room makes them feel a bit on edge. Probably the self-awareness most people don't have.

>continually meet more women
>continually get close to landing a relationship
>continually get foiled by some random occurance
i've got looks, a decent personality, a load of friends, and lots of other things going for me. i just don't like random sex and i turn it down quite often. i know what i'm looking for and hopefully this time it works out. we just started texting, and im gonna make plans for next week

>>8197387
...I don't put any weight behind the whole personality type things, but yes, I am in fact tested as an INTJ.

>>8197231
>>8197378
And I know that there is a lot of terrible advice on 4chan and that is exactly why I started tripping. I give advice based on what I've personally experienced and lived, as well as theory. I usually can understand all sides of the situations, and have seen a lot.

>>8197175
eBay, patience, dedication and knowledge
and having a job
it was actually pretty easy

>>8197297
do you like weird kinky sex because if ella has such a construed idea of just kissing she probably isn't going to be a freak in the bed.

>>8197242
>violently high
thats my friend's band they're really good

>>8197379
You got walls, bruh. So do I.

Catch yourself putting up these walls. Like, I realized the other day that I am affectedly negative when I meet people that intimidate me. People are always surprised that I'm funny once they get to know me. I have to stop this negative first impression that I'm giving off.

>>8197308
>date girl for 3 or 4 months, Sarah
>she breaks up with me over text, I don't stick around for excuses I just say "haha alright bye"
>get on with life
>she texts me like a week later "soo I can still explain it if you want.."
>don't text back. I immediately know who it is. Block her number.
>go through stuff in Mr. Number and find one from her. 5 calls, one text.
>"Whenever you're ready and whenever you want to I really, really, really, REALLY need to talk to you. It's an emergency...if you don't want to and you hate me then you have every right to and I completely understand...please, Anon.."
>text is like a month old by the time I get to it
>I politely, coldly text back asking what she needs but she plays it cool like "oh yeah, I don't remember lol"
>Just trynna forget this bitch but she keeps floating herself back up
>it's been five months since we broke up
>she makes up a rumor that I died over winter break
>her and her friend message me simultaneously "Are you dead? This is a serious question" then I open a text from her saying "Anon you don't understand, I SERIOUSLY think you're dead. This is not a game. Please respond..all I can do is lie here crying my eyes out wrapped in the hoodie you gave me hoping that you're still alive. I don't care if you never speak to me again after this, just please tell me that you're alive. I'll do anything."
>lol ignore, bitch can think I'm dead for all I care
>she gets her friend to drive her to my high school during the day
>she comes up to me wearing said hoodie. It's lunch. Corners me.
>"ANON DO YOU HATE ME?"
>politely ask her to move, she doesn't, she keeps talking and trying to hug me. Crying, snot kinda dribbling out of her nose. Yuck, get this bitch offa me.
>"Sarah, listen. You're going to stop talking, you're going to turn around, then you're going to walk away from me. NOW."
>"ANON DO YOU HATE ME"
>"Sarah, how could I hate you? You don't even exist."
>she runs off crying

>>8196389
Your friends kind of sound like douchebags. My friends and I were all rolling together and this awkward af friend of mine asked me for the oversized t I was wearing. It was still weird but no one was enough of an asshole to call him out on it.

>>8197410
I really don't know if I do anything like that though. I smile, I'm outwardly friendly. I don't really have situations where I'm intimidated by people, so that isn't a factor.

>>8197418
You do it subconsciously. People wouldn't be saying that you're unapproachable if you didn't give off the vibe.

Observe your behavior the next time you meet someone and be mindful of what you do.

>dressed "indie" in high school before the style trickled down into that age group
>learn after graduating that lots of people who thought i was cool and wanted to be my friend never made the effort because they felt i was "intimidating" and "arrogant"
>been in college for four years, dress pretty /fa/
>learn just last week that i've had a reputation of being "intimidating" and "arrogant"

what the fuck. the truth is just that i'm awkward as fuck so i never really talk to people

>>8197454
i also don't understand how i can be intimidating when i'm literally skinnier than a beanpole

>>8197404
Ouch..I'm afraid you might be right.

She has other issues too.
>broke up with her boyfriend, but she still brings it up sometimes. He was her first kiss and she lost her virginity to him, too. Sometimes she just says stuff like "Yeah, Parker used to say stuff like that. My mom would tell me she could hear him yelling at me out of my phone."
>pretty sure she has self esteem issues. She has said stuff like "I'm just happy you even talk to me at all. You have Emily. She's gorgeous, she kisses you, blah blah blah"
>She talks with her best friend about me sometimes, the whole conversation is about how much better I am than Parker and how big of a step up I am and how proud/jealous her best friend is
>She doesn't want ANYONE else at all. She gets starstruck whenever I talk to her. She turns away other guys who try to talk to her and says "Sorry anon and I have a thing" and whenever people ask her if we're dating she says "Not yet"

>>8197456
It's body language, among other things.
It also doesn't mean you are intimidating like you could punch them out - intimidating means a lot of different things in that context. It even could mean that you seem fragile and unpredictable.

>>8197460
I just stepped into the convo here, but it sounds like you are in the controversial "friendzone" and the only way to know for sure is to make a move.

When a girl dumps her problems on you that is a sign she is not interested, but when youre in hogh school things are a bit different.

>inb4 someone steps in to say "friendzone doesnt exist faggot." actually, it does exist IF YOU LET IT and you shouldn't let it.

>8197460
It can feel really good being a positive influence on someone else's life but if she's fucked its sometimes best to best to be selfish and take the girl with the least psychological issues.

>>8197492
Messed up reply >>8197460

>>8197454
>i've had a reputation of being "intimidating" and "arrogant"
if you're really quiet and look slightly aggressive or bored most of the time, this will happen around people. especially if you wear dark clothes; they're gonna think you're artsy and smart or some shit
same happens to me

>>8197378
bullshit how did you know where she lived if you were going to pick her up

what you met her at a party and she told her address?

>>8197492
>>8197495

Yeah I was afraid you'd say that.

I would just feel so stupid if I gave up right now, you know? I put in all that work and for what? One kiss, umpteen hugs, a few hand holdings, and several dates?

I'm still a virgin, bro. I've been playing this game every time. Every girl I can think of I just look back and think "woooooow great job anon, you could have fucked the shit out of her."

>>8197502
What I usually do is ask them their address the day of the date because it's a good way to confirm she's still down, without seeming doubtful.

>>8197509
Here's a potential plan:

Go out with her again. While you're sitting down in a nice place, tell her that you're to a point in your life where you want a stable relationship. Tell her that if she's willing to, you want to be with her, but if not you're going to have to move on.

She will think of the other girl and lose her shit. She will proceed to fuck you within a month, guaranteed.

>>8197509
Stop putting in so much work, it's not worth it.
Girls will lead you on, and make you jump through all types of hoops only to say they aren't interested.

The truth is, if a girl is interested, she's interested from the start, and you don't need to spend so much time being her "friend."
I'm not saying you have to fuck on the first date, but guys frequently make the mistake of spending a lot of time "getting to know" the girl before making a move, when it's really just a waste of time and actually a little messed up as well.

>>8197519
And don't make it seem like a big planned out thing. Shoot her a text tomorrow afternoon or this weekend or whatever and ask her if she wants to go out THAT NIGHT. Not at some distant time in the future so it will seem like you've planned it out. Just bring it up in conversation.

Hell, take her on a walk in the park and have that conversation. Don't make a big deal out of it - just state that you really like her, and that you want a relationship. Make it clear you want those two things to go together.

>>8196746
Raf, Jil, CdG, Margiela, Prada, Lanvin, Acne, APC, Tiger of Sweden, dat soort shit.

>>8197412
You're a good storyteller.

>>8197529
>>8197529
I'm not sure I agree with your perspective.

He's described this girl as a girl who has had one boyfriend. He is the second person she's ever kissed. He's a virgin. He clearly isn't the kind of guy who could hook up with a girl any day of the week, and something tells me he's young. You're pushing a mid-20s date every other night attitude onto him.

The first girl just needs to get her shit together and decide if she wants to be with him, and the easiest way to make that happen if it's going to happen is to just tell her you want to be in a relationship with her but you're not going to wait much longer.

>>8197519
>>8197519
I can't decide if that's really, really good or really, really bad advice..

When she found out about Emily I could tell something was festering in her but she didn't have the balls to say it. She just said "Oh well..I mean I guess you're not committed to me soo." I ended up not having to explain it to her because she already knew what was up, but if she didn't I was gonna say something like "This is exactly what I told you would happen. I still like you and all, but if you didn't want this to happen then you should have tied me to you when you had the chance."

And if I do that, should I bring Emily or should I let her think that up on her own? Like, what if I said "I'm willing to forget about her blah blah blah" would that be okay or nah?

>>8197412
cold and alpha as fuck

How the fuck are you a virgin still, anyway? How old are you?

>>8196752 damn i feel you

>>8197547
>And if I do that, should I bring Emily or should I let her think that up on her own? Like, what if I said "I'm willing to forget about her blah blah blah" would that be okay or nah?

No. You're making it too dramatic if you bring the other girl up.

Just say that you like her, and want to be in a relationship with her. Make it clear that while she is important and you really like her, a relationship is something you need and if she can't provide that she's going to have to just be your friend.

Also, just to be clear, a girlfriend IS what you want, right? You don't seem to just be looking for a chick to fuck from the way you're talking about this.

all you youngfags that are 18 , 19, 20, need to chill, the fun doesnt start till youre 23 this yea i fcuked sooo many girls already, dont sweat it your time will come, i was virgin at 19 but i never sweated it, i didnt care, lost my virginity to a chubby girl, now im fcuking pretty niice girls

>>8197563
yeah but when you're younger, you have all these hormones flowing through you which is the tail end of puberty, and it basically means that you will never have more fun in your life than you did when you were younger.

i want to have fun when i have sex

so its logical

>>8197563
im 23 and a virgin

when is my time

>>8197546
I disagree with a few of your ideas as well, but you're right, i'm approaching it from a "mature" standpoint, not an elementary babbies first kiss advice. Like I said, it's different in high school, but girls are girls after that point.

I am strongly against the idea of telling a girl you are looking for a relationship, and also i'm against the idea of using something like ultimatums.

I believe in letting relationships grow slowly, but pursuing sex early for many reasons. Being a virgin isn't anything that special or that different - the only difference is the personal stigma he's given himself because of it.

However, it's always good to imply you have options, and that is also one of the best ways to get a girl interested. I'm not criticizing you, only saying what I disagree with.

If I was him, I would pursue all the girls, and see where it goes. I know he's going to end up getting feelings and getting in a world of shit, and it's not worth the hassle and effort, but that is something virgins never can understand.

Keep your options open. When a girl is interested, she'll act however she needs to act to win you. I can tell you many stories about that. I can also tell you stories about girls who lead you along forever, right into oblivion and then leave the second you show feelings.

Pursue sex, let a relationship form later.

>>8195938
I just spend my money on clothes and go to school. I used to try to get with girls and go on dates and shit but I've given up. Last girl I was with seriously was 2 years ago (chubby/daddy issues/eating disorder/steve buscemi eyes/slav/5/10). Been on dates with girls ranging maybe 7-7.5/10 on /fa/'s scales. After about 1 week I intentionally creep them out or insult them so they'll stop talking to me. Rinse and repeat.

>>8197577
Also it's important to explain what I mean by "it's always good to imply you have options"

by imply I don't mean downright say it, I mean show it.
Social proof is worth more than a six pack and sexy face to these girls. You can demonstrate that in a number of ways, but you shouldn't speak on it directly.

i feel like half of this board has always problems with coming off as "intimidating" and this isn't just a recent phenomenon only affecting the #allblack crowd

>>8197561
Given the choice betwixt the two of them, I'd rather have someone to fuck. The only reason I'm okay with making a girlfriend out of Ella (or Emily) is because they both interest me deeper than sex.

I see one potential flaw in your plan
>what you say goes as planned
>boyfriend and girlfriend
>Ella doesn't put out (she dated Parker for almost two years but there was a break. For the first long ass part of the relationship they didn't have sex. Ella's hot as fuck but she's not worth waiting a year over.)
>I dash because a man has needs
>now Emily's not around anymore because I tied up with Ella
>Chased two rabbits, lost both. Now I begin again, still a virgin.

>fucking a girl
>having a girlfriend
Honestly, I'd take either. As long as the girlfriend fucks me.

I'm just having fun, really. Getting my dick wet would be nice. The thing is, all of my friends have this idea that I slay poon for a living. They think I get laid daily. My friend even asked me the other day if I was pretending to be gay to get poon (compared to him, I'm flamboyant)

>>8196898
>When someone else has the same feel as you

>>8196263
>live in edmonton
>wear rick
>go to red star pub on jasper, people love my /fa/ uniform
>later on go to boston pizza with some friends
>hear some fat guy in Hurley say "look what that guy is wearing, haha"
>call him a pleb
>he has no idea what it means.

>>8197592
Sounds like you should just try to bang Emily then, and if it doesn't work out try a relationship with the other girl.

Seriously, if Ella jumps ship while you're chasing Emily, you'll live through it. If she sticks around she probably likes you enough to begin a relationship with you after you fail with Emily.

>>8197619
I wouldn't making a girlfriend out of Emily, though..

The thing is, it worked out MAGICALLY for me to hide it. Ella knows about Emily but Emily doesn't know about Ella, and they don't talk to each other at all. I never lie about it, so when Ella asks about Emily I just answer truthfully and somehow Ella's still around.

I just don't want one of them to leave because "oh my god you have a girlfriend fadkfja;lsdjf;a"

>>8197460
well thats different she is inexperienced and is still developing her understanding of how relationships work. so if you are beyond her current stage and don't really want to expend that much effort then fade her out.

>>8197628
damn bruh are you collecting pokemon cards or trying to deal with human beings

>>8196752
Just fucking do it, it just looks like you're retying your shoe.

Fuck you guys can be such spergs sometimes.

>>8197084
LOL

>>8197628
You will inevitably lose one of them. The matter here is testing the waters to see which one of them that is.

Pursue a relationship with Emily. If it doesn't work out, use Ella as a fallback. I say this because Emily seems more likely to bang if that's all you're really interested in.

>>8197628
wouldn't mind making a girlfriend out of Emily*****

crucial typo

>>8197654
Sounds good

Maybe I should keep Ella around..like, be nice to her and stuff. Ella told me she wants to keep going out on dates and stuff she's just not ready for being official.

>>8197666
Just date them both. Let them know it, if one of them wants to change it they will try and start a relationship with you.

You don't have to be super alpha about it, just act like it's no big deal since they both haven't shown interest in a real relationship.

>>8197674
Are you talking at the same time here?

Just take them out on dates and see where it goes? But don't be official with either of them?

>>8197680
Exactly. Neither of them have explicitly committed to you. Don't be bitchy about it, date both of them, don't deny it, and be ok with it if they date other people too.

See how it goes, commit to one if it works out. Relationships won't happen over night.

>>8197403
knowledge?

>>8197680
>>8197687
And don't try to hide it in any way either. Since Emily doesn't know about Ella, you need to keep it in a sort of college dating scenario where she EXPECTS that you would be ok dating other people. If she wants to take it farther it wouldn't be hard to figure that out.

>>8197687
Hm...so, carry on with what I'm doing then?

That's a better answer than what I was expecting..I don't even HAVE to choose one. I can have both.

Here's the problem though, girls my age WILL freak out about that stuff. There's no might or maybe about it. Girls my age don't know how to be in relationships. I'd hate for one of them to overreact and say "WOW ANON YOU THINK IT'S OKAY TO HAVE THAT AND HAVE ALL THIS WITH ME? YOU CAN FORGET IT, WE'RE NO LONGER A THING"
>>8197654
Not exactly what I wanted to hear, but I can get on board with it.

I just don't want to feel like I wasted time working on Ella. I figure everyone thinks I'm fucking her, so why shouldn't I be? Parker even wants to fight me because she walked my way after forgetting about him. He thinks she broke up with him for me. I feel like I'd be squandering something I could otherwise have.

>tfw new boots

i feel glad but my feet hurt, i even got blisters on my feet ball

>>8196158
>>implying being good with women is a bad thing
oh wow, this board is really going to the shitter, innit?

>>8197698
Guys always fuck that up.
Guys either forget, or don't realize that girls do not want to jump into relationships and are always exploring and pursuing other options.

They won't be forward and direct about it, and they'll even hide it as best as they can, but they almost ALWAYS have other guys on the side.
I wrote about that here:
http://coolmanadvice.tumblr.com/post/83045845360/but-shes-special

and also take a look at this text I got from a few days ago. This girl has a damn fiance.

I don't just date girls, I have a lot of female friends as well, and they like me because I know about them. They'll admit things to me they won't admit to other guys, and that includes how they always have guys on the side.

Don't ask a girl to be exclusive, wait for her to ask you. Don't talk about your "relationship" with her at all. Just enjoy what you have, when you have it, and she'll appreciate that and it will intensify her feelings towards you. Girls like a guy other girls want, and being needy and over available doesn't leave that impression.

>>8197709
If you care this much about Ella then go with the other scenario I offered. Tell Ella you want to be in a relationship with her, make it happen, and you'll probably bang within a month or two. Emily might be easier. It's your choice.

You can't worry about all of this social shit while also getting the easiest bang. The easiest way to figure out which one of them is going to bang you is by trying to bang them both and then forgetting the one who doesn't put out.

>good looking
>don't smile or talk much
>drink black coffee stay awake until i crash
>existential crises few times a week
>can only fight it off with work that feels meaningful

>it always returns

>>8197724
And I mostly give this advice because it seems like Ella is the "relationship" kind of girl. If she was cautious to kiss you she isn't going to run around. With Emily it might be better to bang and see if it turns into a relationship, with Ella I think she's probably going to expect a relationship before sex happens.

>>8196389
>get drunk through out the night and all i end up talking about is that shirt
kek happens to me too

>oi m8, thats a noice haircut, i would love to have that cut, but fuck, you dress like a fucking kid,did yer mummy dressed u or whut?, hahahahahahahaha are those fucking mocs from Aldo Conti? is like if you were trying to be the king of plebs or something

>>8197732
>with Ella I think she's probably going to expect a relationship before sex happens

Oh yeah, without question. I think with either one of them I could use the "I love you" skeleton key if I really wanted to. With Emily I probably wouldn't need to. To her, I'm a celebrity and my presence is a present.

>>8197745
Sounds like you definitely have the option of fuck buddy/gateway into alpha-ism with Emily, or real sustainable relationship with Ella.

You can poke at the waters for both, but be cautious, seems like Ella would be easy to lose if you're not consistently nice to her. The whole "cold dude" thing isn't going to work with her.

>>8196475
>be 1.80 m tall
>people say i´m tall as fuck
>tfw manlet
>"wow anon, it must be hard to find a gf that suits you"
>people think i´m a gay hipster by the music i listen and how i dress
>fucking SLP and listening to regular indie music thats not even underground
>fucking 1.70m jelly manlets stare at me
>fucking 1.60m bitches mirin
>all you can listen is spanish polka and shitty electronic music
>fucking baggy jeans all over the place
>fucking ugg boots in all corners
>Welcome to Mexico

j-ust kill me already

>>8197745
No disrespect, but you aren't as smart as you think you are. You just don't know how she is playing you yet.

I know this post is going to be perceived as very negative, but it's not. It's something you'll think about a few months from now (assuming you get with her) and fully understand.

She IS the type who will fuck without a relationship, and most girls are IF YOU ARE THE RIGHT GUY.

>>8197754
Cold dude thing like what?

Like what I did with Sarah?

>tfw anxiety attacks
>tfw listening to lustmord in a pitchblack room
>tfw nothing makes any sense when it comes to human interaction
>tfw scared 2 death of intimacy, physically and socially
>tfw sexually confused
>tfw crushing on qt
>tfw everything i draw or paint have been pure shit the last week
>tfw venting on 4chan

>>8196045
>Chef Boyardee chic
dead

>>8197242
while reading that i imagined some goofninja hidgh as fuck in outer space drooling and sitting in the most uncomfortable way and staring at some kid

>>8197297
>/fa/ feels
nigga go ask your mother or something, this isnte related to fachun

>>8197794
uh neither is most of the stuff posted on /fa/

>browse /fa/
>self reflection time
>realize i look like shit
>not enough money for good fits
>trapped in fashion limbo

>be in a small fine arts cohort program (16 people)
>make out w girl in cohort a few times at parties over the past year
>suddenly it gets more serious, we go out a few times
>summer starts, we are kind of together?
>talk about it, she only wants a summer thing for now, and to keep it on the dl amongst classmates, for reasons
>sure, whatever. let's cuddle
>tfw me n her are walking down the street, she lets go of my hand and pushes me away when she sees a classmate


damn son idk if I can do this.

>tfw u actually care about your appearance
>tfw your friends don't
>tfw no /fa/ friends irl
>tfw u can only talk fashion with the occasional well dressed gay and faggots on an anime image board
;____________;

>dress semi-/fa/
>talking to classmates
>all of them think I'm a huge player who has dated plenty of girls and had lots of sex
>all think I'm intimidating
>am actually just a nice quiet virgin who has been in one relationship that lasted 1 month
Their judgment hurts

>>8197962
>damn son idk if I can do this.

Don't be her toy. If you think it's ridiculous, tell her so, and that you would rather end whatever it is you have than continue under those circumstances.

>>8197962
drop the bitch
>>8197965
get new friends
>>8197969
fake it till u make it

>>8196750
Wait, wait, wait. In the next month your taste will change entirely. Don't spend money yet unless on basics

>>8197989
w2c /fa/ friends irl

>>8198000
fuck what that guy said, you're friends don't need to be /fa/, they need to be good friends.
None of my friends, except one, dresses even remotely well, but they are loyal and honest to me, and that's what matters

>>8198000
>>8198003
I might add: if anything, try to encourage your friends to be more aware of how they dress. Go shopping with them, explain to them why certai clothes fit well or why their outfits don't work. Don't be ridiculous man.

>>8198000
engage in /fa/ activities

they will come

>>8198003
:') damn i guess your right anon
i am blessed to have loyal friends
i suppose i'll have to incorporate the thoughts of caring about your appearance to them some how though

>>8198010
like heroin? suggestions please
my irl activities are /fa/ but i have fun doing them and that's why i do them

>have fucked up teeth, they've held me back for my whole life
>never had braces because we thought we couldn't afford them
>learn that my insurance will cover every dime of it (I get free dental and medical for pretty much anything because I'm adopted)
>my canines are impacted, my teeth are just all around not straight
>I'll need braces for like two years

Can I be fah with braces? They're gonna pull my canines out then make an incision and set up a chain to pull down my adult canines. I'll have a gap there for god knows how long.

Is there any way to be attractive with braces?

>>8196048
this every time

>>8198024
You could bring up how they could be way more succesful with chicks or whatnot if they dressed better, and if they seem somewhat interested (or even if not) just send them the /fa/ sticky. It's a good place to start. Definitely don't send them to /fa/ though.

>>8198034
yo know what, here's the easy mode

find your nearest art school

wear your most /fa/ outfit

then post up at the starbucks closest to the school

make sure you bring a /fa/ book (i suggest yohji my dear bomb [the book is all black])

done, u'll be rolling with /fa/ home bois and artsy poonani in no time

good luck

>>8198035
>Is there any way to be attractive with braces?

You're gonna look normal with your mouth closed, but people who see them while talking to you and might think "Oh, wow, that guy still has braces with [age]". Who cares though. Your teeth are gonna look GREAT once they get off, it's the best feeling ever.
Do you know your real parents and why they gave you up for adoption?

>>8198035
>my adult canines
wtf u 12 or something?

also get invisalign

>>8198042
yeah, good idea
definitely not that, it's too early for summer
well they are already familiar with leddit so maybe mfa would be a better introduction
as bad as that sounds it would be a huge step up from what they already wear
i don't want them to see gothninja right away and get intimidated

>>8198050
sounds like a plan
might have to filter though a ton of mac only fags and tumblr girls tho

>>8198073
The men's basics section is legit, nothing goth ninja about it

>>8198051
Mom was a drug addict. I was born addicted to heroin and methamphetamines, spent the first few days in an incubator. Luckily I dodged fetal alcohol effect.

Anyway, Germany tried helping out my single mom by giving her funds with which to take care of me but she still didn't get it together.

Long story short, I was adopted abroad and brought over to Seattle. Then my adoptive mom wrote a letter to the German higher ups and sent in 400 euros to apply to keep my citizenship.

The state of Washington pays for medical stuff, dental stuff, and other stuff. I break my neck and ride in an ambulance to the ER? No cost to my family. I need braces? No cost to my family. etc.

>>8198057
Yeah, you have no idea what you're on about. Stop talking.

>>8195972
I just call that touching tips

>>8198079
oh my b
yeah solid basic stuff
i'll be upgrading the boys from their generic running shoes and boot cut aeropostale jeans in no time

>>8198087
damn, that's a messed up story, I hope you're happy with where you are. Go get some perfect teeth!

>>8197412
this was the gayest thing ive read today

>>8197454
LITERALLY ME

>>8197965
ALSO LITERALLY ME

>>8196495
same here when i'm in the elevator at uni i see all deze bitches looking and dem niggas miring as fuck. tower above them & i'm like 6,1and a half (187 cmish). when i had my timbs on in the winter i felt like the goddamn hulk/

>>8198145
yeah life is a struggle sometimes
and girls are just as bad, u can't talk to them ab fashion
80% of them here at uni dress like fucking rubbish

>>8197352
>tfw appear unapproachable and probably am
Can we trade. People talk to me all the fucking time, I hate it. Let me walk to class in piece.

Fuck 3 people talked to me on the way to my final. Can we trade?

>afraid of interacting with almost every single person i know
>sometimes meet new people, feel interested in them but when it comes time to put effort into talking to them i have to really really force myself to initiate conversation
>usually just hide instead of talking to them, sometimes give up mid-conversation if i don't have any satisfactory reply
>don't talk to them for long enough that i can pass it off as being too late/too embarrassing to say anything now
>hate myself
i don't even feel that i'm bad at actually interacting with people, i just lack any kind of motivation to continue interacting and look for whatever excuse there is not to, and keep fucking up with people that might've been interested in being my friend

>tfw have wife

This thread is funny to read, I really want to see you people irl, why do none of my friends have such insecurity?

>>8198162
i feel like most of the people i talk to fashion about are girls actually. they don't wear the fashion i talk about but they know about it and love it. i really hate having no /fa/ friends url though.

>>8198219
Keep forcing it. You learn to work it into your daily life.
On the other hand, I suffer from coming off TOO friendly, weird, and sometimes even pretentious (definitely gotten better on that)
Looks like another summer spent with /fa/ again.
Talking to people is really hard. I feel like I'm not interesting enough to keep people interested in me, so I sometimes end up coming off like an idiot.

>>8198229
They probably have, but don't talk to you about it. I wouldn't share my problems with you guys if I talked to anyone irl about it.

>>8198202
Hmmm... that sounds kinda annoying, but I'd do it. Then never leave the house because I get anciety attacks when people confront me.

>>8197787
close, except I was drooling whist trying not to have a heart attack

>>8198111
Hahaha well, thank you?

I never know how to respond to things like this hahaha. I was blessed as far as my face and body go, so to me it was worth it. I wouldn't trade it for anything.

If it meant one more person getting to have a nice life, so be it.

>>8197242
lost so hard, i know that feel.
>and will only increase the chance of a stroke, which seemed like a very real possibility at that moment

>reading john fante on the bus
>suddenly smirk/contain a giggle because of a line
>qt I've stared for some time and were sat right by my side were looking at the window
>I try to control the smirk what now is growing into a giggle
>I sort of start grunting, try to mute that as well
>she's still staring at the window
>autism intensifies, think she's wondering it's something about her.
>she can't stop looking
>traffic light is red, the bus is stopped, nothing to look at, can't breathe
>the line floats in my head, plus, I remind a line of bukowski about having a monkey face, even though I think I look like a miserably smiling dog atm
>she's still looking - that's a 30 second scene
>she stops looking, she lands rightly after
>I'm sweat, couldn't have said a word even if wanted - would've laugh out loud at myself
>never see her again
That's happened in 2010, still cringe whenever I remember that

>>8197297
Kyle?

>>8197084
Surely you can fold over the pin to hide it

>>8198244
yeah, i'm trying my best to force myself to do it, it's just so hard and so much easier to hide ;_; m-maybe next semester it'll get better

>in love with Rick, Raf, Yohji, A Wang, BBS, Damir Doma, Hedi, etc...
>mostly own plain clothing from those designers
>tees n shit
>whenever i come home with something new my roommates are like "hey anon how much did that t-shirt cost smh go to h&m"

>chillin at work wearing nice things
>chatting with coworkers
>"lmao how much do u spend on clothing a month"
>"lmao how much did that shirt cost??"
>"lmao how much did those shoes cost"
>"lmao i bet u spend 100 bucks on socks"
>"lmao i bet u buy designer toothpaste"
>ha ha ha u guys are so funny!!

>wearing rick shirt to work
>"lmao nice dress anon"

life

>>8196045
>Chef Boyardee chic personality
holy shit

>>8197291
Move to a big city, get a job and start fresh. The confidence will come with the experience.

>>8197015

its true

>>8196707
having fuckbuddies is so boring to me
every fucking time they get attached and weird as shit
it's like friends with detriments

>>8195990
He then should've told her to get it for him. Alpha afuck.

>>8198318
Having an exclusive GF isn't any different really. Girls are girls.

I don't do FWB like a lot of guys do, I just date casually. Meaning I'll go on dates and all that, but nothing too serious.
Sometimes all it will ever be is just sex, but I like getting to know girls and spending time with them too. I believe if a girl is worth getting serious for, she'll prove it over time.

>>8198331
to be honest I've sort of had bad luck too
I've had one fwb for like two years who I don't see too often but I'm definitely way too into
seems like with girls I either don't give a fuck at all or get over-infatuated

>>8197769
are you me

>>8196389
>get drunk through out the night and all i end up talking about is that shirt
hahahahah what the fuck

>>8197721
b-but >tfwnogf

>>8197231
Oh shut the fuck up most guys can't pull of a two hour convo on the phone with a complete stranger.

>>8198341
A lot of guys end up having the same problem. An unfortunate mistake guys make is finding an FWB and getting comfortable. They'll stop pursuing other girls and it ends up feeling like a one sided relationship. It seems that either the guy ends up catching feelings, or the girl does.
That's why most FWB situations end badly. Someone gets pissed off or depressed when the other person finds a more "long term" partner.

If you have a problem with over infatuation, that won't get better by entering an "exclusive" relationship. Over infatuation comes from insecurity, probably the most common form of insecurity in men. I really don't know the cure for that, other than just take it slow and constantly remind yourself that you don't NEED a girlfriend, you want sex, but sex isn't something you should negotiate. For a relationship to be successful, in my opinion, you should be at a point where your GF is a MINOR part of your life. It always sucks when you lose someone you were fucking, but it shouldn't destroy your world.

I would rather talk about relationships to bitter, frustrated virgins, than guys currently in relationships, because currently in relationships tend to have very bad "oneitis."
"Oneitis" is the disease a guy gets when he starts to believe his girl is special, and unlike all the other girls - she is "the one" and to say otherwise is blasphemous misogyny.
A guy in his first long term, "loving" relationship, is experiencing the high. Everything is beautiful, things are so great, and he feels qualified to tell everyone to follow their hearts.

He has no idea what the come down from the high is going to be like.

That's why, for a relationship to truly be healthy, you need to be able to function and be happy without her.

>>8197965
>>8198145
Go to party/bar settings and make friends. They will be the type of people that care about their appearance.

>>8198219
>not enjoying having your phone blow up with friends
>not enjoying making moves with friends everyday like fucking gta missions

>>8198229
Are you old or just one of those ppl who married their high school squeeze?

>>8197242
fukken dead

>>8198279
How do you afford??

>>8198420
>I would rather talk about relationships to bitter, frustrated virgins, than guys currently in relationships, because currently in relationships tend to have very bad "oneitis."
>"Oneitis" is the disease a guy gets when he starts to believe his girl is special, and unlike all the other girls - she is "the one" and to say otherwise is blasphemous misogyny.
>A guy in his first long term, "loving" relationship, is experiencing the high. Everything is beautiful, things are so great, and he feels qualified to tell everyone to follow their hearts.
Fucking this! I can't stand guys who are that in love. I just want to say "shut the fuck up." I can't say I've ever been that infatuated, even when in relationships. That way of talking just annoys the shit out of me.

>>8197297
fa grill for sure. grills who come out of big relationships will probably still long for ex and are almost confused about what they want. fa grill is fa. rare. she probably got more in common with you anyway.
good luck

>>8198482
I've been in their position, sort of, so I understand how they feel to a point.
But there are some guys that are like talking to a brick wall in their stubbornness about how it's true love and they are in control.

People don't understand that men and women do not love the same way. What a guy wants, a girl can't give him, and vice versa, until you understand the differences, if you ever fully can.

Guys are blind to what these girls are capable of pulling because they see the current image. They have no idea what the reality is.

>>8198498
When I say "I've been in their position, sort of"
that's because I've been in love, and had a girl turn into a completely person over night.

But I was never in complete infatuation over her, even though it totally ruined my life. I know what it's like to think a girl could never do that to you.

But I've never been some desperate guy who couldn't get girls. I just started seeing the reality and now I can see more than just the shadows.
Just look at this post:
>>8197721

There was a period when I thought this girl was really serious about me, but I was able to remind myself that there is ALWAYS something else going on, and it looks like I was right.

Please dont' think this is one isolated example.
I've heard every possible excuse out of a girls mouth.

At the beginning of the night she has a boyfriend, by the time i'm in her bed they are "on a break."
It's just how it is.

>un/fa/ feels

>>8198516
I owe $75,000 Nd can't leave the country util it's paid

>>8198537
I had no idea they could place restrictions on travel like that. Makes sense though.

Did you go to med/law school?

>>8197962
>she lets go of my hand and pushes me away when she sees a classmate
nigga went full beta

drop her after you fuck her and never talk to her again, just fucker her and leave that cold ass nigga

>>8196523
You wouldn't happen to be moving for uni would you?

>>8198546
if you´re in the credit buroeau black list you are actually fucked for life, you cant get loans, you cant mortgage anything, you cant flee, you cant get well payed jobs because it appears on the curiculum viate and some companies actually track your financial record

RIP in peace anon

>grill texts me after like 4 year hiatus
>now lives in colorado
>things pick up over text
>moves back home due to psychotic stepdad
>comfort her through her shit
>start going on dates
>discover shes tumbler core and smart af
>really liking her
>dates, movies turn into make out session
>lots of ilys and shit
>set up date to coffee shop
>says we are going as just friends right?
>wtf break up with her
>its been 3 months
>what have i done
>best chance i have had
> cant really get over her
>im a bitch

>>8198515
Yeah. Luckily I've always been good with attachment and girls. My first girlfriend I didn't lose sleep at all when she was like "we should take a break." I was like "cool" and that was that. Well, she tried to get back with me then said the same thing again. No skin off my back. I guess I'm emotionally detached in that way. I like to have girls, but mostly just for sex/company/companionship. But these are all things that are replaceable and no girl can have a monopoly on. My last relationship pretty much ended because I lost interest and just stopped calling her. But I have a friend who is still getting over a girl and he doesn't understand how I can just drop girls without feeling some sort of loss. I dunno what it is. I don't even get laid enough to be this cool with it lol.

>>8198516
Are you from the UK or something because under 10,000k is literally laughably low compared to here.

I was in class and my teacher allocated groups to work in. We're more than half way through the sem and I was talking to this girl I haven't talked to before. She already knew my name and said she remembers it from the start of the semester... Is she interested in me....

>>8198420
the thing is that while I feel infatuated at times, if I don't talk to her for a while I feel totally good and unattached
and whenever she does talk to me she tells me she loves me and shit like that

>>8198613
You're retarded you should've fucked her by the second date. She lost interest.

>>8198647
That's good. Be careful and conservative with those three words.

>>8198644
Not enough info. Maybe, maybe not.

>sitting in class trying to put up with obnoxious first/second years obnoxiously forcing themselves to laugh at each other's shitty jokes

vomit.jpg

>>8198569
>fucked for life
>thinks you can't flee the country

>>8198657
the whole situation is annoying because she actually has a boyfriend who lives in another country and knows just enough about me to want me dead
I don't get how guys like this don't move the blame

>>8198660
lmfao I know this feel. You don't want to seem awkward or antisocial but at the same time you don't give a fuck about the shitty conversations to join in.
>that loud as fuck pleb

>>8198669
muh nigga
fuckers try way too socialize and i understand that i probably look like a huge fucking aspie just sitting there not giving a fuck but w/e these niggers a prompting bile at the back of my throat

>>8198613
>we're just friends right
That is a trick question, and the only correct answer is "of course"

If she wasn't interested in you, and really did just want to be friends, now you know and you can test it for certain by going cold and making a move when she hits you up

But
if she WAS possibly interested in more, telling her you are just friends will get her brain spinning an her attraction towards you will multiply.

When a girl thinks you don't want her, she wants you even more.

That's why I say the only correct answer is "of course." I understand why you reacted they way you did, and at least you didn't stay friends hoping it would lead to sex later (the definition of "friendzone"), but my way is a better way. If it was me, and it has been, I would have said "of course" but kept everything exactly the same. I would have put it in the back of my mind, as something to look out for, but that is why I agree with:
>>8198653
>you should've fucked her by the second date

>>8198668
Lol fuck 'em. Enjoy it while you got it.

>>8198668
>I don't get how guys like this don't move the blame
That's the power of female manipulation.
Some guys will never, ever, pick up on it.

When you fuck a girl who has a BF you would be stupid to want a relationship with her, and you run the risk of a physical conflict with the guy, but if you just want sex, and you aren't that scared of the guy, then do whatever.

Just don't love her.

>>8198694
We don't love these hoes.

>>8197165
>>8197189
>>8197649
Most of my jeans that are stiff stick to their fold but I got some thinner, looser jeans that still unfold no matter how well I do it. It's not like the pin shows since the second fold goes over it anyway.

>>8198704
aint got no love for these hoes

>>8198663
well, thats what i heard

>been on 3 dates in the past month
>be disgusted with each of every one of their fits to the point i no longer find them attractive
>not model tier skinny
>they all have pig disgusting nose piercings

t-thanks /fa/

>>8198805
I usually don't quote religious texts for obvious reasons, but I keep being reminded of one of my favorite biblical verses:

"Listen up, my children, the message is this: never fall in love because a bitch is a bitch. If she's getting wet, let her suck on your dick, but never fall in love because a bitch is a bitch."

>tfw no monster coupe

>tfw paid $20 for a bad haircut

why does this always happen to me

>>8198828
Don't ever think I've seen a woman with facial piercings who wouldn't look better without them. Especially those god damned septum piercings. Why hoez want to look like walking hepatitis cases, I'll never understand.

>>8198694
I'm almost tempted to email him or some shit and set the records straight, but I feel like I might get dead if I tried that

>>8198891
it's shitting me to no end.
so many of the grills have them here in Aus
>le edgy hardcore scene xDD

even normal non scene grills are getting them too, and it just looks disgusting and out of place

>watching item on eBay
>currently $10.50 with 22h left
>praying bidding wars don't begin in the last few minutes

I need this

>>8197413
i feel like i know you

>>8195938
>Buying clothes and making new fits is pretty much the only thing that makes me happy anymore.
>Been waiting 2 weeks for boots because customs is dicking me around
>Buying clothes online is becoming such a hassle but I can't get the stuff I want in shops here.

>buy two pairs of 3sixteen at $240 last friday to flip them
>realized its not worth the time and effort
>ask to cancel the order over the weekend - where i havent been charged nor has the package shipped out
>monday
>"Unfortunately we cannot cancel your order as its currently in the shipping process - however you can return your package once comes to you"
>tfw have to wait half a month just for a refund

fucking yoox

>>8198916

I hope you have that shit on Gixen fam

That's the only way to go

>>8198892
You could be like me a finger the dudes girlfriend in front of him
Tbh I thought he was asleep but he wasn't
Didn't fight me or even say shit

>>8196787
>>8197084
I made a quick thing (pic related)

Pin before you roll, then cuff as usual. I do it whenever I pinroll my jeans and they never come undone

>>8198959
I do

>>8197412

>making up stories on a chinese cartoon forum

you nerds need to reconsider your lives

>>8197291
I don't mean to alarm you Anon, but I think I'm you a year in the future

>>8197563
ok thanks

>>8197574
ikr I know I need to change but I don't know how im supposed to be or what im supposed to improve myself into

what am I supposed to be aiming for
just "me but fucking lots of chicks" doesn't sound very healthy tbh

any advice confidentfags?

>>8198976
pretty sure that could not/would not work
I've never even met the guy in real life and he's like 4 years older than me
fuckin kek on your story though

>>8199096

"being yourself" so you can fuck is 75% appearance

at 23 everyone can spot a thirsty nigguh and then only bitches youll get are the ones you WOULD expect to suck your dick (ie 2/10)

if you want to be in relationship with sex aim at being in the relationship first, sex is just an afterthought and should come naturally

>>8199174
what does "being myself" even mean? how can I be anything but myself? I'm realizing that I need to improve myself somehow but I don't know where to start, I don't know what "myself" I want to be. Furthermore, why does my self worth have to revolve around what I do/don't do with women?

I honestly don't know if I even want a girlfriend or sex or whatever like I have no idea what it would be like to be in a relationship or how time consuming it would be and shit, like I get lonely pretty often but I realize that it's pretty naive to think having a relationship will make me happy or satisfied?

shit idk

>>8199207
this is a 2am blurt from some anon on the internet, so i know youll take it with a grain of salt

being yourself is literally what it means, and when people say "be yourself" they imply that by doing so you also find another partner wholl like you for yourself despite faults and youll do them same - thus producing the most optimal relationship
however thats extremely romanticized where you must going through a lot of women and time

if youre question "being myself" i assume youre going through self loathing and such and that "being myself" hasnt worked for you because you could be either uninteresting or more commonly socially inept
thats fine - because there's also the opposite for women, but just as hard to find because they also question themselves and are afraid to establish connections

a very general advice, f you want to improve yourself, then you have you obv change your outlook about yourself - because if you cant carry yourself you cant carry your partner. the easiest way to achieve your outlook is making goals each day, no matter how little or trivial: make your bed, finish a book, learn to cook a sig dish, paint, code a website, ace a class. this will eventually snowball to a point where you can look back and see your persistence and accomplishment that you can be proud of.

relationships are time consuming, but imo will make you happy if your relationship works out - knowing not only you can be open with someone, but they can be open with you.

also sex the first time is overrated because youll be awkward as fuck and you have no confidence to control whats going on, but third or forth its great

>>8199248
shitty grammar, but i know youll forgive me

anon i know youll make it because everyone, despite age, goes through questioning themselves

>>8199248
okay I guess I already knew that but I suppose it helps to hear someone else tell me

if I'm honest I think what I'd really like is a decent group of friends, I do have some friends, but I'm not really close with them. I guess I might see if I can find some clubs or groups or something to join and make some new friends. I'll take your advice and try to achieve some things every day.

Thanks, im sure ill probably just give up after a few weeks, but h-here I g-go

>qt takes the same bus to uni on Wednesday and Thursday morning
>she desperately tries to get my attention with long stares
>fucking utterly abismaly autisticly ignore because to fucking autistic to deal with female attention
>this has been going on for weeks now

Fucking hell, tomorrow I'll fucking force myself to eye fuck her

>>8199488
JUST
FUCKING
TALK
TO
HER

srsly its not that hard, just look her in the eye say
>hi, im anon
shake her hand
>and you are?

ask her about uni stuff, general chit chat, and if shes interesting, ask for her number before you leave. she will 100% give it to you if she is in any way interested in you at all.

good luck and watch your spaghetti

>>8199503

Yeah well tomorrow I'll be in front of her in the bus and I'll give her back every single one of her looks. Then on the platform waiting for the train I'll say something like

>Hi, so I noticed you go to the same Uni building than I do. What faculty are you in or some shit

I know its not hard and I know that as soon as I talk to her for the first time and we sit together in the train it'll be easy to carry on

Fuck I have to do this or else pay someone to fucking shoot me in my autistic face

>>8199557
go for it man

i had a qt do this to me too on the train, tho it was a one time thing. left without approaching her, never saw her again :'(

>>8198642
Just finished first year of undergrad, so I'm getting there

>>8196045
>chef boyardee
i am no longer alive

>>8196767
>god, i hate anime
>i know what website im going to post about it

>>8199557
How about don't sit there like an awkward loser and "give her back looks" but actually make conversation on the train, and sit by her OR BETTER have her sit by you.

Include someone else in the convo if you're super nervous about it, because that will help ease into it and also it can be very beneficial.

>>8200293
Sitting there and looking at her, as you say, "eye fucking" is not attractive. It MAY leave the impression you are interested, but it will also leave the same impression as all the other guys who just eye fuck her daily.

Do what most guys can't, and make conversation with her and do it when you have an element of control, for example NOT chasing her after she gets off the train.

It doesn't matter WHAT you say, only how you say it, and if she's miring hard, you can say literally anything. Like I said above, if you look at her and can't think of something to say, find something to say to someone else near by and bring her into the conversation. That works well or a number of reasons.

Even if you drop spaghetti all over yourself, you'll be a lot happier than "tfw when i never even tried" and you'll do better next time.

Talking to girls like that can be a really difficult thing to do, and most guys never step out of their comfort zone and just wonder "what if."

I've never regretted talking to a girl instead of waiting, even when I had a girl literally laugh in face. It actually felt really good knowing I tried, and usually, from that point on, i've been very successful.

>>8197574
It won't come to you, you have to work on it. At 23 you should be trying to get your dick wet asap.

>>8199207
Relationships add quality to life. You definitely shouldn't need one, but without any is definitely less fulfilling than with one. Same with friendships. You shouldn't need them but they make you happier.

>>8197403
you would be a top lad if you could offer advice. I too wish to cop nice shit for lower price, sensei

>>8198976
that's a douchy thing to do. You're being an ass to the guy just because his girl is a slut.

>>8200309

I was just using an hyperbole though. I usually avoid making eye contact with her as she looks at me. Now I will look at her when I see her looking at me, to make said eye contact.