/fa/ - Fashion

Anything cotton, hemp, linen, or synthetic.

that still leaves you with a pretty huge selection. have fun

>>8129736
synthetics and synthetic blends with cotton are usually superior to all organic anyway. only thing that usually sucks are synthetic leather alternatives, although i have seen some high end shit (fendi, prada) that was really good (and also cost thousands)

Cow hide isn't made into leather just because of a demand for cowhide. It is a byproduct of the beef industry.

So, you choosing not to use cow leather just means those animals still die but are used less efficiently.

lol u r n idiot

buy second hand / thrift

Common projects
Dr martens
Maison martin margiela
Raf simons
Rick owens
Balmain
Saint laurent paris
Prada
They all use vegan leather

>>8129752

that is not true for veal leather or high end leather.

for shoes there is this http://www.vegetarian-shoes.co.uk/ but the choice is limited, their "docs" are made by solovair which is nice

>>8129792
Thanks for the link. This seems like an awesome website for my needs

Doc Martens have a vegan line, and I've been eying these:
http://www.mooshoes.com/men-s-shoes/boots/defender-capped-toe-black.html

>>8129736
comme des garcons only uses pleather iirc

GOTTA LOVE IT

>>8129774

wut ?

>>8129736

Good decision bro.

The leather and fur industry are pure cancer and a shame for humanity

Your problem here is that even the glues used for clothing are made by animal products. You need to cut out all adhesives, which continues to lower your options.

>>8129736
I'd seriously be curious why you'r even going to cut out silk and wool.

>>8130858
this is fucking stupid. That pic does not at all represent those industries as a whole, only one part of them. That's like saying "eating any meat is bad" and posting an image of some horrible factory farm.

>>8130858
C'mon man, we know that the fur industry and fashion industry aren't beautiful but you don't need to shove it down our faces like that.

Shock tactics are why people hate PETA, afaik.
Everybody knows ham is dead pig, we don't need to see pictures.
I personally hate eating meat and if I could I'd stop eating it, but I'm not in a place economically to do so.

>>8130972
>I personally hate eating meat and if I could I'd stop eating it, but I'm not in a place economically to do so.

What. You save more money by not eating meat than you do by consuming it.

>>8130972
I'm not a vegetarian but goddamn your shits so weak its piss

>>8130985
no, actually you don't. At least not if you want a balanced diet

>>8131015
you know you can easily get fats and proteins with slightly more effort right?

It's not hard at all if you spend ~30 minutes looking at amino acid profiles.

>>8130985
This is entirely untrue. For a balance of necessary nutrients you will spend far more on a vegan diet than a omnivorous diet. Fish and to a lesser extent red meats have very cheap necessary nutrient:price ratios, whereas there potential vegan replacements are often quite expensive.

>>8131020
peanut butter/micronutrient tablets.

>>8131031
There's a lot of research out there showing that tablets/vitamins aren't as effective as people think. They work, but aren't absorbed in the same way as food.

>>8131019

I can cop boneless chicken breast for 99 cents per pound. I'm calling bs if you're saying I can get 80g of non animal protein for anywhere close to a dollar. Hell even cheap protein powder is more than that.

>>8131020
>>8131015
how so? buy beans and rice in bulk, done.
protein powder/whey gainer is also a cheap source of protein and if you can buy mixed vitamins to supply

>>8131047
you would have to eat an unhealthy amount of beans to make up for meat, and you're still missing most of the nutrients found in fish.

>>8131054
the guy who said peanut butter was closer, but he's still missing the fact that our bodies absorb nutrients from meat very efficiently. It sucks, but we've evolved to eat meat, and thus process it better than anything else. We've been eating meat for hundreds of thousands of years, eating vegetables on a large scale has happened within the last 10,000 years. We simply deal better with meat, and while vegetables are close behind, things like suppliments/grains/butters are very inefficiently handled by our bodies.

>>8129736
fun fact, the sexiest vegan of 2012
was only a vegan for 2 months then went back to eating lean meats

>>8130962
What you do not understand is that a lot of vegan chose to stop eating meat not only because the industry is bad but also because they consider it absolutely immoral to kill an animal while you can live without doing so.

>calling yourself a vegan
>buying faux leather

You're still perpetuating a fashion statement born on the ideals of killing animals
Fascist

>>8131015
retard

>>8131020
retard

>>8131047
whey isn't vegan

>>8131054
retard

>>8131056
ignorant retard. humans' diets consisted of vegetables long before we were ever reliant on meat.

are some of you lobbyists for the meat/dairy industry or something?

If you had been swift, you could've registered into the draw that gives a few lucky vegans the chance to purchase these vegan-friendly cruelty-free sneakers(presumablt with some animal product)

>>8131147
>posts dubious claims with no evidence
>schooling anyone

>>8131147
"soy protein" isn't vegan either btw.

also gummy bears aren't vegan

most natural glue products aren't vegan

etc

also you better only have synthetic oil in your car, and run on 100% ethanol

>>8131181
a quick google search of "are humans herbivores or omnivores" is easy. if the first poster was too lazy to look it up, I assume he'd be too lazy to read it.

and as for the complaints about veganism being expensive, the diet is literally as expensive as you want it to be. it can be incredibly cheap if you stick to the cheapest bare essentials, and much healthier than eating the cheapest meat you can find in a grocery store. I've saved a lot of money since going vegan, but I spend a little extra to make more complex dishes.

>>8131187
nigga I'm just on a vegan diet for health purposes. I still lick my leather shoes from time to time. don't bring up using "vegan glue" and shit.

>>8131195
most pre-made vegan foods dishes utliize animal fat as flavoring, or an animal fat stock

soy protein is 34% WHEY PROTEIN
aka milk fat sourced protein aka the shit in velveeta that legally distinguishes it as cheese product not cheese

>>8131147
>lobbyists

why are all vegans conspiritards? Is it the need to feel like their dietary choices have any relevance to anyone except the poor bastards who have to listen to them whinge?

>>8131213
>on a vegan diet for health purposes
i know what this REALY means, you can still eat meat on a budget.

skirt steak, meat tenderizer, salt
heavily salt steak after tedenrizing it, rinse salt off and cook to medium

it's still eatable/soft ot that hard cheap diner philly cheese steak shit tough

also korean bbq,
seasme oil, soy, ginger, garlic, shallots, sugar (not alot just to take sour note out of) makes a great marinade for cheap meat

you can feed 5 for $4.97

cheaper than lettuce bro....

>>8131214
excuse me mr borden, at least have links for those claims. couldn't find anything about it.

>>8131187
>"soy protein" isn't vegan either btw.
vegan is different from cruelty-free
there isn't such thing as cruelty-free either
the point of being vegan is doing the least harm possible to people, environment and animals.

saying that, you have no fucking clue and what you said is nothing but rhetorical bullshit. you shit clueless fuck.

>>8131147
Why do we have canines then?

>>8131240
it was a joke. and also, "vegan" is in the title of the thread. pretty much never tell people I'm vegan.

>>8131249
I never said it would be cheaper, just that it can be done very cheaply.

I am >>8130985

>>8131020
>>8131008
I was responding more to >>8130972 's "I can't stop eating meat because it impacts me financially" statement than anything about diet or nutrition. Personally I've found that meat (good quality meat not 99 cent packaged bologna) is cost-prohibitive whereas you can stretch a food budget farther by abstaining from meat eating. My diet is like 20% meat and my checking account is happier for it.

>>8131279
Also I never mentioned anything about being vegan. Where did that come from?

>>8131266
um you do realize our "canines" are much different from the canines of carnivores right? we're more in line with herbivores from a physiological perspective.

>>8129736
how do you feel about buying second hand? you can still buy wool and leather etc. while you wont contribute to the production of clothes with animal products.

>>8131291
Yeah they're different, because we're not eating meat all the time with us being omnivores like most other apes.

Pic related. A chimp's teeth, are you going to say that they shouldn't be eating meat either?

>>8129736
This is what vegans actually believe

>>8129736
Veganfag here, I've been on /fa/ a while and the only thing I've really had a problem with is shoes / boots. I have a pair of vegan docs (Doc Martens actually make them and they're only slightly more expensive), but most nice shoes and boots are pretty prohibited. Nike shit included, so no AF1s (why even live without them) but Roshes are okay if thats your thing (eww) and also Converses and Rick Ramones (lel). If you need formal shoes for a formal event check out Melissa / NONNON, they're not gonna be /fa/, but they're a good choice if you need to dress-up (they're not specifically vegan targeted tho so check the product descriptions carefully). Formal shoe options really aren't great for vegans but casual options could be a lot worse.

There are a few vegan clothing / shoe companies but tbh they're not really worth your time. Stick to fashionable shops but just be selective over what you buy. Leather patches aren't used on that many jeans (Levi's are all card patches and APC don't put any on at all). Wool isn't actually used in that much, acrylic is way more common than you immediately think. You'll have trouble finding decent versions of some products, but as you adapt your style everything (except shoes) becomes easy fairly quickly.

>>8129736
Veganfag here, I've been on /fa/ a while and the only thing I've really had a problem with is shoes / boots. I have a pair of vegan docs (Doc Martens actually make them and they're only slightly more expensive), but most nice shoes and boots are pretty prohibited. Nike shit included, so no AF1s (why even live without them) but Roshes are okay if thats your thing (eww) and also Converses and Rick Ramones (lel). If you need formal shoes for a formal event check out Melissa / NONNON, they're not gonna be /fa/, but they're a good choice if you need to dress-up (they're not specifically vegan targeted tho so check the product descriptions carefully). Formal shoe options really aren't great for vegans but casual options could be a lot worse.

There are a few vegan clothing / shoe companies but tbh they're not really worth your time. Stick to fashionable shops but just be selective over what you buy. Leather patches aren't used on that many jeans (Levi's are all card patches and APC don't put any on at all). Wool isn't actually used in that much, acrylic is way more common than you immediately think. You'll have trouble finding decent versions of some products, but as you adapt your style everything (except shoes) becomes easy fairly quickly. Just check the product descriptions thoroughly.

>>8129736
Veganfag here, I've been on /fa/ a while and the only thing I've really had a problem with is shoes / boots. I have a pair of vegan docs (Doc Martens actually make them and they're only slightly more expensive), but most nice shoes and boots are pretty prohibited. Nike shit included, so no AF1s (why even live without them) but Roshes are okay if thats your thing (eww) and also Converses and canvas Rick Ramones (lel). If you need formal shoes for a formal event check out Melissa / NONNON, they're not gonna be /fa/, but they're a good choice if you need to dress-up (they're not specifically vegan targeted tho so check the product descriptions carefully). Formal shoe options really aren't great for vegans but casual options could be a lot worse.

There are a few vegan clothing / shoe companies but tbh they're not really worth your time. Stick to fashionable shops but just be selective over what you buy. Leather patches aren't used on that many jeans (Levi's are all card patches and APC don't put any on at all). Wool isn't actually used in that much, acrylic is way more common than you immediately think. You'll have trouble finding decent versions of some products, but as you adapt your style everything (except shoes) becomes easy fairly quickly. Just check the product descriptions thoroughly.

>>8131331
korean sandwich

you know you want it

for a lot of people being vegetarian or vegan isnt because they believe we should be killing animals, its because they believe we shouldnt be killing them so inhumanely.

the animals that produce most of our food are quite literally kicked around their entire lives before having their throats slight. they are never once shown any form of love or care.

most vegans and vegetarians are protesting the industry not the meat itself. some do it for health reasons because meats are packed with pesticides, antibiotics, and preservatives that arent good for your health.

yoy can eat meat all you want and someone else can not eat meat all they want, just dont shit on eachothers life choices because its different for you.

>>8131291
>>8131306
Someone just got #rekt out of the thread

>>8131306
well they don't need meat to survive. during dry seasons when much of their diet is less common, it can be beneficial for them to eat meat. not all of them do this, though.

>>8131352
>the animals that produce most of our food are quite literally kicked around their entire lives before having their throats slight. they are never once shown any form of love or care.

would you eat meat if every chicken had been patted on head prior to having its throat sliced?

>>8131387
the japanese massage kobe cows by hand in order to tenderize the luxury meat product.

americans just do it by forklift
good is good
DGAF nigga

>>8129736
wait wait NOW i get why you guys use the vegan excuse....

prodigy: "you eat pussy?"
>n-nah...i'im vegan?
prodigy: shut the fuck up, be a cool young thug and eat...
>im not kidding, i don't eat cow...

>>8131352
i'm vegetarian because my area is primarily agricultural. my environment doesn't force me to eat meat so i don't eat it. there's no reason for me to eat meat unless i value my taste buds more than an animal's life. if i lived in the faroe islands or something, i'd probably eat meat all the time because they don't really have agriculture.

i have no problem that others eat meat, i don't criticize them like other vegetarian cunts that think they're morally superior.

>>8131429
i dont believe im morally superior im just really disgusted with the conditions of american meats.

>>8130491
Made from the skin of pretentious vegans.

>>8129736
Answer this to me Vegans!

If you are presented the following dilemma; you must eat a piece of chicken or I will kill a chicken if you don't. Would you eat the piece of chicken?

>>8131542
no. but I'm only on a vegan diet because I like the way it makes my body feel. not contributing to deplorable slaughterhouse conditions is an added bonus I guess. but I've killed, cleaned, and cooked my own meat plenty of times.

>>8131187
Luv u sieg