/fa/ - Fashion

why does this need to be done in the fastest way possible?

Fatggots must suffer. So you do. There is no "magic pill".

stop eating

Eat under your total daily expenditure for calories. You can make this easier by using caffeine, nicotine and/or (psuedo)ephedrine to curb appetite. Or take DNP. I don't really care.

>>7774575
because i'm worried i'll slip up and return to my current skinnyfat state

Why the fuck you are asking this here, not on /fit?
How you /fa/t has something related to /fa/shion?
Sage.
Dont reply to this thread.

>>7774578
lol i don't want to lose weight and muscle then eat all my fatness back.

>>7774549
>without buying any fancy things?

i hope you're talking about drugs, if not, you're too fucking stupid to lose weight

people who aren't fat to begin with have gone over 30 days without food

eating all the fucking time isn't required

>>7774594
because /fit/ is full of dunkasses that will tell you to read the sticky that is filled with generic "EAT GOOD FOOD LIFT DO CARDIO LIFT"

>>7774596

you are a fucking idiot.

why do you think your body is stacking fat to begin with? do you think it has something to do with having something to get energy from after you run out of food? if your muscle will burn by any noticable extent before your fat, why the fuck wouldn't your body store your fucking fat as muscle instead?

these are questions you need to be asking yourself

>>7774549
ketosis for 2-3 weeks

Cut off a leg

>>7774609
muscle catabolism occurs if you fast regardless of any points you just made

op just cut

>>7774609
why don't you starve yourself, tell me how it works out, and then i'll go ahead and do it too. either way, i don't want to feel like shit.

use this

http://www.fitwatch.com/qkcalc/caloriedeficitcalculator.php

COUNT YOUR FUCKING CALORIES

don't eat like a pig

do cardio 2-3 times a week, or lift, or both.

that's it. should be thinner and stronger in a month.

it's not going to happen quickly.

>>7774629
I did, I lost 40 pounds

still fasting 2-3 days a week minimum, I don't feel like shit and I havn't lost my muscle and I havn't ate back the fat I lost

>>7774632
so what? you're still losing way more fat than you're losing muscle. if you know a way to lose large amounts of weight in reasonable time without losing muscle please teach me how

why are people so bent about losing some muscle when they want to lose fat quickly? losing any weight worth talking about in a reasonable time means you'll lose muscle, it's not a big deal

>>7774674
>so what? you're still losing way more fat than you're losing muscle.

because he said that in response to a suggestion to stop eating, AKA fasting (>>7774578), where cutting would be much better maintaining muscle-wise

>>7774690

losing fat until you're fit to be cast in a remake of dallas buyers club and starting to lift when you're done will save you time and money if you want to achieve a good looking body if low fat is your niche

learning to cope with being without food for a few days is a good thing as well

just eat lean proteins and get your vitamins and minerals with as little calories as possible

diet ain't no rocket science

>>7774549
Count calories and do half an hour of cardio EVERY FUCKING DAY.

Get to it fatty.

>>7774712
Cutting will always be more efficient, and won't cause metabolic issues. Don't mess with homeostasis.

>>7774735

OP is trying to lose 20 pounds, not 100. his body will not be damaged by frequently fasting to achieve his goal

i'm sure there may be plenty of more healthy ways of losing fat but he wanted to

>lose 20 pounds in the fastest way possible

>>7774786
>OP is trying to lose 20 pounds

While maintaining muscle mass.

Thus, a cut.

>>7774796
you will still maintain muscle even if you're fasting, not as much as eating a 100 less calories than your daily burn of course, but where exactly is the line drawn between what you consider maintaining muscle and losing muscle?

do you think that humans have been eating 2000 calories daily for any meaningful period of time? give evolution some credit please

>>7774828
>you will still maintain muscle even if you're fasting, not as much as eating a 100 less calories than your daily burn of course
then he should cut

are you done yet

>>7774845
>you keep using that word

cutting means losing weight rapidly, fasting is a form of cutting and the fastest one at that, please stop repeating a word you dont even understand. i asked you to be more specific and the only thing you manage to do is to repeat the vague fucking word which by definition can be understood as the exact thing I'm arguing for unless you step the fuck up and share some specifics

>>7774911
eating a deficit while maintaining physical activity > dieting

satisfied now

>>7774911
leave me alone i dont even care anymore

>>7774929
>hey i want to lose weight
>you should diet

oh yeah perfect

>>7774549
OP me and banana have agreed that your diet of choice should be fasting on the regular

>>7774604
Could be because they actually know what they're talking about... just a thought

>>7775018

weight loss isn't exactly their element though

and to be perfectly honest many people who lift on the regular seem to get a false sense of security because apparenetly eating protein and regular exercise result in muscle gain and / or fat loss, which some people think is a sign that they have uncovered the worlds best and most efficient regime conceivable

>>7774604
confirmed for didnt read the sticky

keto

look it up

>>7774911
You have no idea what you're talking about

Cutting is the opposite of bulking

Bulking means finding out your caloric maintenance level and eating at a calorie surplus while maintaining physical activity, usually about +500-1000 cal

Cutting is the opposite. Once you have bulked to your desired weight, you cut but going -500 or so cal from your maintenance cal level while exercising, allowing you to rapidly lose weight without the risk of deteriorating muscle mass

that's very different from fasting

>>7774911
>>7775473
long story short, its just calories in/out

You can eat as much as you want as long as you are exercising enough to hit a 500 calorie deficit after you work out

Fasting is just unnecessary and largely unhealthy by comparison

Read /fit/'s sticky and quit trying to get everything to happen instantly ya dumbass. The results are always shittier with the stuff you rush.

>>7774549
Dnp or clen

>>7774590
You're more likely to slip up if you try some quick fix rather than establishing a healthy routine.

>>7774597
>people who aren't fat to begin with have gone over 30 days without food
who goes thirty days without food?

>>7775555
there's not a specific demographic

>>7775041
fat loss is exactly /fit/ element
the basic is that you need to eat less calories than you expend

so you can either exercise more or eat less of both
i recommend doing it safely eating the right ammount of macronutrients (proteins, carbs AND FATS) and a lot of vegetables if you don't want health problems

>>7774549
myfitnesspal.com
sign up, put in your info, tell them you want to lose 2 pounds a week, then go a little beyond what they recommend. I lost 8 pounds my first week. My best week for loss was 12 I think. It might take you 2-3 weeks but for 20 lbs, that's fast.

If you exercise you can say so as well and it'll guesstimate how much calories you burned given the exercise and your weight.

>>7775602
by beyond I mean less. So if it says 1700 eat 1500 etc.

>>7775473
>Cutting is the opposite. Once you have bulked to your desired weight, you cut but going -500 or so cal from your maintenance cal level while exercising, allowing you to rapidly lose weight without the risk of deteriorating muscle mass

nope, please learn the difference between connotation and denotation before you argue about things like these with people, otherwise people who know things will think you're a retard

>>7775482
>Fasting is just unnecessary and largely unhealthy by comparison

both of these are nothing more than your opinion, there are studies that suggest that intermittent fasting may have health benefits, which is pretty far from "largely unhealthy", but you would know this if you weren't too stupid to seperate your personal opinions from facts

>You can eat as much as you want as long as you are exercising enough to hit a 500 calorie deficit after you work out

is it because you're stupid yourself that you feel the need to point out something as obvious as energy expenditure resulting in weight loss? how is that even relevant to losing weight quickly? how is fasting unnecessary when the goal is quick weight loss?

>>7775538
>The results are always shittier with the stuff you rush.

there is not one single argument to back up a statement as retarded as that, stop giving advice to people please

>>7775548
>You're more likely to slip up if you try some quick fix rather than establishing a healthy routine.

you're always likely to slip up or fuck up when you're trying to change things, especially as an adult, this is really shitty advice you're giving. just tell him that it's better to make a real comittment to change and to adopt a policy for his eating that will result in what he wants long term if you really want to help

>>7775555
people who hunger strike

>>7775586
>fat loss is exactly /fit/ element

you have exactly no idea of what exactly means

>the basic is that you need to eat less calories than you expend

wait are you telling people that the laws of physics are at work again?

>i recommend doing it safely eating the right ammount of macronutrients (proteins, carbs AND FATS) and a lot of vegetables if you don't want health problems

this is legitimate advice and much better than rapid weight loss and you should probably listen to him OP because it sounds to me like you need to be more healthy and not shake of some extra pounds for a fit

but if you want to lose weight quickly fasting is very effective

anecdote: it might end up helping you with your issues with food, it helped me

and since people tend to say that fast weight loss often result in putting the weight back on, I'll just mention that the laws of physics still work on people after they lose weight and starting to eat like a fat man after you lose weight is not the fault of your fast weight loss it is the result of your shitty discipline (good luck embracing a slow and much more boring diet if you cant even keep from eating too much when you've reached your goal in the first place)

why do people always make such shitty fucking arguments when it comes to weight loss, you not liking something does not make it wrong / useless / stupid

>>7775673

also, you might want to try the 5/2 diet shit if you havn't, it fits some people really well

eat as little as u can and if u do have to eat make sure it is proteins and very fibrous, non-calories dense vegetables so u don't get hungry. go running at least three times a week. maybe do some pushups and pullups if i want

also, to reduce water weight, drink as much water as u can and then also drink loads of caffeine and dandy-lion tea/root. it will make u piss loads, reducing ur water weight, but you'll have enough water in ur system as well so it will just keep getting flushed through u without ur body storing it

1500 calories a day, with moderate exercise. Use My Fitness Pal to track that shit and weigh yourself in the morning. If you can't deal with it and you are still really hungry get some nicotine gum. Nicotine isn't bad for you (its all the other shit + inhaling the smoke from a cigarette that is) and has actually been proven to improve brain function but besides that it is an extremely effective appetite suppressant and your mouth stays busy while you chew it. Bretty simple m8

>>7775602
this. after christmas I had gained a little weight and was about 157 lbs. Did 1500 cal a day, picked up a membership to a group fitness centre and I quit smoking with nicotine gum and lost 10 lbs in the first 2 weeks

>>7776178
yeah get yourself addicted to nicotine because you're too weak-willed to not stuff your fat face for a few hours

>>7776234
I am already addicted to nicotine from smoking so I mean nicotine gum is at least a bit better. I personally have no problem not eating, my record is 4 days and when I did start eating again it was back to clean low cal diets. I just saying if OP needs something being addicted to nicotine is better then being a fatass

>>7775645
damn you're really retarded, no wonder why you got a trip

>>7776405
>damn you're really retarded, no wonder why you got a trip

well that hurt, but I don't have a trip

also feel free to argue if you think i said something that was incorrect

>>7774549
Low carb diet + intermittent fasting.

Good luck!

>>7774549
>the fastest way to loose weight is to run naked ultra-marathons in Antarctica without eating.

Calories in minus calories out faggot

>>7775645
annnnnnd the award for biggest tard on the planet goes too

>>7776699

words can hurt anon, I sure hope you remember that

>>7774549
Exercise and eat at 500 calories below maintenance. You could buy Yohimbine HCL too, it's not that expensive and it legitimately works.

>>7776717
>You could buy Yohimbine HCL too, it's not that expensive and it legitimately works.

define legitimately?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22432773

>>7776737
>hurr durr i can search da pubmed daterbase

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17214405
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323115

It works. Just go on /fit/ and ask. Almost all the people who have taken it on there have seen results.

>>7776768
Or use clenbuterol, or do an EC stack. They all work for rapid fat loss.

>>7776768

>The athletes (20 top-level male soccer players)

dayum they had 20 people in the trial seems legit

>may enhance the efficacy of exercise training as a fat loss strategy
>_hypothesis_

>comparing this to the journal of dietary supplements

>go on /fit/ and ask

yeah i'll go trust the word of a random person on a board known to be filled with misinformation

does it hurt to be so incapable of thinking these things through?

>>7776807
>dayum they had 20 people in the trial seems legit
you are fucking retarded if you think that's the problem with this study.

>>7776882
>you are fucking retarded if you think that's the problem with this study.

you are fucking retarded if you kept on reading the study after the "(20 top-level male soccer players)" part

>>7776807
Hey man, I'm just giving you empirical advice. If you want to continue being a hamplanet and cite a singular "study", whose abstract is just a biased opinion with no actual supporting research, as your justification for not using supplemental aid, then cool, it doesn't affect me. I'm not the one who needs to lose weight.

losing weight is easy tbh
eat at a 500 calorie deficit to your BMR, drink as much water as you can, exercise more and eat less/better in general and you'll lose weight easy
if you reach a plateau halfway through eat less and exercise more and you'll break it

oatmeal fruits vegg protein powder tuna cottage cheese

drop all sodas sugar shit chips and fast food

there i just saved you

>>7777018
>empirical advice

how the fuck can you be this retarded? what the fuck is empirical advice supposed to mean? that you tried your advice yourself before handing it out? are you completely delusional?

>continue being a hamplanet
i'm not OP and I'm not asking for help to lose weight, where are you getting this? is it just an assumption? do you just assume that anyone who doesn't agree with your bullshit "facts" is a hamplanet?

>as your justification for not using supplemental aid

supplemental aid for weight loss, i seriously hope you're not serious about this being any factor for losing weight

yeah sure if you take stimulants your metabolism will be increased and your hunger will be killed but that doesn't mean it's a smart thing to do now does it? the supplement that you're pushing has been found to be useless with empirical evidence (which is a little more to go on than your "empirical" advice)

A trial with 20 football players and a discredited hypothesis from some schmuck working for a company that had a reputation for poor practice, and has since been closed, and people on /fit/ are the only arguments that you've had for taking it. it's obvious that you're too stupid to think for yourself and you're apparently pretty butthurt about it considering how much you're arguing for something that you have no fucking reason to believe in to begin with.

jesus fucking christ, what is wrong with you?

if you want to lose weight without surgery achieve energy expenditure

if you want to lose weight faster increase your energy expenditure

dieting is so mind-numbingly simple, how the fuck do you manage to mess up every single thing you say? there is literally one fucking thing you need to understand and do to lose weight