/fa/ - Fashion

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ann d
rick isnt that good of a designer tbh, hes good but not exactly revolutionary

>>7535459
Damir doma,

/thread

>>7535501

>/threading your own post

gtfo kiddie

>tfw fifth element core doesn't exist

>>7535503
toplel

>>7535524

>>7535524
rick owens is 5thelementcore

>better
You don't understand design.

>>7535503
haha

I prefer many designers over rick, I won't list them here.

>>7535601
>got his design education from /fa/

>>7535459
i like sruli more

>>7535601
fair assessment. they're all masters of the craft at his level.
miyake may have fair claim to being more forward thinking and historically relevant, but i like ricks clothes better

ITT: no one

>>7535459
youre autistic if you think designers can be objectively better than others

ann is my fav tho~

>>7536404

This
>imblying any of those fuccboi designers can top the taco master blaster

>>7536407
Is Ann really your fave?
Why. I honestly don't find her interesting.

Junya

Hiroki Nakamura

Yohji Yamamoto

Ann D

Yuichi Kuroda

Takahiro Miyashita

Tatsuro Horikawa

Jun Takahashi

Do you guys actually not know of any designers besides Rick Owens and Raf Simons

>>7536416
several of these are stylist designers, whom i am tempted to rank beneath technical designers as a matter of fact.

>>7536334
Does anyone here afford sruli?

>>7536416
>list of fags
now tell me. would anyone of them even get a scratch on rick before going down?

>>7536437

turnleft owns a small collection of it, i believe

there's a bit more to the label than the novelty garments like the forget me knot and stuff

>>7536414
mmmm its just the most beautiful to me

the womens shows as well

i dont mind if you dont like it but do you really think its uninteresting? how so? any shows in particular?

>>7536450
btw who is your fave nat?

>>7536437
sruli isn't more expensive than the "ordinary" luxury brands. More like slightly cheaper.

>>7536452
>>7536450
lmfao don't give nat any credit. i would honestly be so surprised if he has even seen one ann show.
>she's a boring designer i know cause i have seen three of her peices reposted on /fa/
fucking lol, nat get off this board you walking abortion

>>7536468
forgot to attach picture of one of my fav ann shows
>ITS BORING CUZ ITS BLACK
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>7536468
dont forget

>silhouette
>aura
>feeling
>shape

>>7536468
>being this bitter
How's life on the bottom rungs of the ladder?

To trunks: I have seen shows of hers but it just never strikes me
I am not saying she is "bad" but I cannot see how someone could have her as a favorite because she is too bland for my taste

I am only talking about womenswear btw, that's all I watch except when the designer has a focus on the men's ( ie t Browne)

My fave is mcqueen because his notion of feminity and sexuality best works with me

I have not seen any other designer who has created things like him

This is not to say there aren't however
I dislike how just because I state my opinion, I am automatically labelled as someone who is stating a law or saying they know it all

>>7536473
yeah all those internet buzzwords, yo ualso have to remember that nat has never seen a designer garment in his life so of coursre hes going to say that mcqueen or whatever trite shit is the most beautiful cause it looks the best in 300x550 thumbnails online. hell never see for example a poell fencing leather or an ma+ embryo bag up close, see the patina on the leather, how it cracks and wears, the distressed metal of the clasps, could you relly blame him for his opinion?

>>7536473
Since a lot of you had trouble reason what I used to wrote, I've decided to simplify myself for you.

The opposite decision would be to go poet and say fuck you am leave this board.

I can articulate exactly what about a piece or collection I like and what I don't like, and I can do it very simply too

You're just bitter honestly

>>7536495
Okay, then can you cite what you don't like about Ann, using specific examples from collections (preferably not SS14 or AW13, it'd be obvious you just went back and watched the most recent.) I'm really just curious to hear your opinion. The other guy is providing examples of his favorite looks from several collections so could you do the same and just explain what it is you don't like? Thanks Nat.

>>7536487
yeah i dont really see how someone would find it bland, but opinions are opinions, its fine

>>7536490
You sound ridiculous
What's to say one of those things are better the other?

Honestly I think you need to look in the mirror realize that not everyone seeks the same thing from clothes

I asked trunks why he liked Ann d because I wanted HIS opinion on it not because I was bashing Ann d

And all that talk about not handling designer pieces is all fucking bullshit

Like I said before if you think that is all there is to take from clothes then we are just not on the same wave length

>>7536490
fyi ma+ is a commercial exploitation of another man's work; mister grandma himself should probably not be cited as a great designer.

>>7536513
like some shows, some looks, sure, but ann overall, looking through her whole career, decades worth of work? i wouldnt call it bland

>>7536490
im not defending nat but mcqueen was not only an extremely talented designer but a beautiful person too so please look down on someone else who actually has no talent and likely no personality

>>7536502
Reason #1: above all, for the most part, I try I value practicality the most

The clothes I have seen from Ann do not look practical to me because of her use of ornamentation in a a non "controlled" way

Controlled would be the way thom Browne used studs and such in his fw 12
Ornamentation in a structures, stable manner

Maybe this is Ann's aim, but again this is why I was asking trunks for his opinion

Can you please repeat why you were being an asshole from the start?

>>7536542
but then how can you like mcqueen? mcqueens ornamentation is way less "controlled" and more expansive than thom browne or ann

>>7536423
Hiroki definitely.
Yuichi mostly, but some of the lad stuff I've seen is somewhat interesting in terms of construction.
I can see it leveled against Takahiro-san, but given that he's untrained some of the construction and processing techniques of some older number (n)ine and soloist stuff is quite impressive
Jun Takahashi is certainly boring and more conservative now but earlier collections, especially womenswear, have been pretty technically interesting and labour intensive.
Also I don't think one is better than the other, they just appeal to different people. Some people really just want to create an aesthetic universe with their clothing, and that's perfectly adequate.

>>7536542
Reason #2: silhouettes

I do not like her silhouettes. This could actually be number one because it is one of the first things I look for in a collection.

I do not like assymetric design unless it has a certain charm ( a la mcqueen plaid dress)

And as for silhouettes they do not resonate with what I hold in the ideal

I could go on about that for hours

>>7536515
>posting a sarah burton design from a wedding inspiration site

>>7536416

>>7536549
Reason #3: i don't like goofninja

>>7536558
Burton is the closet thing we have to continue mcqueen work how could I neglect her voice? Plus if anything it is more of collaboration although that is just my assumption

As for image source do not worry about that

>>7536542
wait, im not sure if you actually like mcqueen or if its just people making baseless claims but isnt that a bid contradictory given some of mcqueens designs?

>>7536561
can we not use that word here

>>7536542
people are being rude to you because you said
>>7536414
and it sounds like you're casting judgement and looking down your nose.

>>7536567
No I know that mcqueen had many impractical designs especially in his early stuff

If you want a nice starting point I would at look at his final show

Nothing has touched me like that show and his fw 2009

>>7536570
shit

Anyway, Carol Christian Poell

>>7536573
oh, ive seen most of mcqueens shows, i just didnt know which ones you liked/disliked

>>7536583
I meant fw 1999 btw

The lace plus leather pieces are exactly what I look for in design

>>7536568
I just don't like the way she blatantly rips off his own shows instead of actually coming up with her own design
example: that dress you posted.
another example: using the birds print in menswear this (current) season

>>7536590
but thats both assymmetrical and nonfunctional

>>7536579
>sound like

Protip: that's all projection

If you have read my posts before you should no it is not in my nature to be judge mental

I save that for real life and when I actually have to deal with people

I've said it before and ill say it again
I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE GAME OF " LOOK AT ME I AM HIGH FASHION"
Or whatever ego trip people go on

I come here and get drunk because I love women in dresses and nowhere else in my life am I able to express this

What's wrong with that?
If you come here for anything else but fashion than fuck you

I don't give a shit about Ann d because I don't like her clothes not because I am trying to sound contrarian

>>7536590
yuna from ffx2

>>7536597
Disagree
Like I said before charm is what sells assymetricality but this is subjective

As for non practical I would say the leather piece could only fall into that category but mcqueen does it in a way which shows control and forces elegance

He uses it to stiffen the neck yet allows the rest of the dress to flow freely....
Chained yet able to fly
It's romantic to me

>>7536517
can u explain this

>>7536585
I haven't been challenged
I think it's because I'm right...

>>7536605
i'm not offended i couldn't care less if you like ann d or not lol
i wish there was a decent forum where i could talk about fashion with open-minded people instead of people who are like "BUY DICK OVENS W2C ROSHES?" all the time

>>7536622
junior i swear to god i will lay you out

>>7536595
To create you first need matter

You cannot create something out of nothing

This is a big topic

>>7536627
yeah in the evolution book it has a quote from her saying she kept all of his drawings though so

>>7536621
Basically M.A+ is Amadei continuing the philosophies and experimentation of Altieri but far more commercial
Same could be said of Augusta
I think that's somewhat unfair - Altieri had a huge influence on all members of the Carpe family, it's hardly like Amadei is exploiting Altieri's vision by having everything done in an industrial setting in china or portugal just to make $$$
>>7536628
Knuck if you buck

I-I wonder if twerk got my message on unwoven.

>>7536623
Even then " talking about fashion"
Is still filled with the same social bullshit

An example? What just happened. I could even ask a question about a designer who is foreign to me because I have people who are insecure and feel the need to try and tear other people down. THEY are the ones who are looking down their noses, all because they've felt the patina of cracked leather on their ballsack

>>7536638
yeah i feel you nat, the h8 was unwarranted

but that first post did sound pretty condescending without the context of the later ones

>>7536657
The context they need is that I'm natalie Portman and I'm real

If you never meet people in your lives who are honest and don't feel the need to play games then I feel bad for you

andy mustardmaker is my favourite because she takes autistic period clothing and makes it cool as fuck.

just think for a second how many people try to do that and fail.

off the top of my head, almost all "special" music fans who try to dress the same as their favourite artists from bygone eras (it went out of style for a reason!!!). all the history and literature enthusiasts (read: nerds) who attempt to channel their favourite period of time. all the fedoras and gentlemanbabies who want to go back to a better time without dubsteping and facebooking. all the "fashion people" who each week throw a dart at a board full of decades and then pretend they're "doctor who" (get in the tardis and get out of my face!!!). or how bout just people who can't "get with the times" because they hate "shopping".

I'm pretty sure if you leave your house on a daily basis you could very well see someone who could be described as "anachronistic" almost every single day of your life. someone trying to take clothing from another time and make it their own but just ends up with it looking like a costume for a superhero who's superpower is looking like herby ass bitch.

so to have a designer who can actually take something like victorian clothing and remix it into something cool, easy, wearable is incredible. i want to lock andrew dustermeter in a room and force her to make stuff like model trains and steampunk cool too. could you imagine if someone just forced her to take retarded shit and make it cool all day long.

and that's why she's my favourite designer who's not tricky ricky

debate me

>>7535459

FIth Element : Jean Paul Gauthier.

>>7536691
someone i know described ann demeulemeester as cosplay and goth wear with exceptional execution, which i think is fair. and probably explains why her vocabulary is so conspicuous amongst lolita, amongst the work of the squaresoft guy, etc

>>7535503
I totally agree. he designs effortlessly cool, wearable stuff. not trying to be too avant garde, just undeniably chic pieces that are actual timeless clothes.

>>7536901
really? dior homme looks nearly universally dated and slp is even worse. the success of dh was a combination of timing and the extreme skill of hedi's crew, without which he would be nothing; that much is demonstrated by the failure of his efforts under slp. any relics of the dior homme era which have had any staying power have nothing to do with hedi's input and everything to do with the rare chance he gave to the design team to have at it. dude should have sent the atelier out to bow after the shows.

nigo

>>7536920
you raise a good point. I personally can't think of much that couldn't be reworked into outfits today, but maybe some of the choices of what was styled with what are outdated. I would agree that he wouldn't be that great on his own and it's the back up of those in the atelier of big houses like Dior that were really carrying him, but I personally like SLP under his control and I like the vision he has.

I like Givenchy/Riccardo Tisci's designs quite a lot
There's something about the recognisable patterns that I love
I also genuinely like most of Rafs piece, but he does have some bad ones

>>7536416
>Do you filthy ganjis not know that Raf Simmons Rick Owens can't fold their items of ritual clothing 1000 times? I went to the most honourable fashion school my flyover state could offer and I took a night-class in wapanese

>>7535501

lmao please tell me damir doma fanbois dont actually exist

please

>>7537065
dd had some great seasons and his shitty ones dont rlly make his good ones any worse imo

but i dont like him as much as rick either

>>7536440
Smiley face.

>>7536450
I agree. I don't like her the most out of every designer I like but I find even her most minimal stuff to be beautiful. I own a plain black tee by her, it's just a few inches longer than your average tee and it only has a few minor details (center back seam etc) but something about it comes off as elegant and effortless no matter how I look at it.

>>7536691
You might be right, but your tone is a bit... judgmental?

>>7536440
is that faggot wearing a skirt a dress and wellies? hahahaha nobody dresses like that on the street and those people who do get laughed at. damn.
the only good thing about this outfit are his bracelets

richard nicoll