/fa/ - Fashion

>>7525694

girls use relationships as an excuse to let themselves go. 100% of girls do this,

Yes and no, it's their fault.

A lot stop trying once they have a man in the bag. I remember a lot of the girls in my college (and high school now that I think about it) would stop wearing make up and only wear sweatpants after about 2 or 3 months of their relationship.

I don't know if they do it on purpose or it's just a natural mechanism but it sure works on weeding out the guys that don't "love" them. Not all girls do it though, they might just get comfortable around the house but still make an effort when going out to wherever.

>>7525702
>mfw I constantly tell my gf I'm going to leave her if she ever becomes fat
>mfw I keep hassling her at the gym and telling her she doesn't work hard enough

Bitch knows I could do better.

>>7525751

i wouldnt want to be with a pestering faggot like you, nagging like a woman

it's not just women. beta dudes do it too. i remember giving up lifting after i got a gf and after a while she wasn't attracted to me anymore because i let go of the thing i loved. it's her fault, dude. ditch her ass and she might learn.

>>7525774

>>7525694

> Do women just stop caring about how they dress and look as soon as they have a sure thing?

Some of them.

> Am I an asshole?

No. Why would you? I'm not saying everyone should do the same, but it's just your choice.

I don't think there are any strong reasons needed for ending a relationship more than not wanting the relationship to continue, unless there are third-parties involved (see, a kid).

>mfw, literally, the only girl I've known to be faithful to her boyfriend dressed in sweats and no-makeup when she went out
>mfw girls who keep trying to look hot are ABSOLUTELY still open to fuck other guys
>mfw when someone making a lot of effort to be *attractive* are, by necessity, still interested in *attracting*
>mfw you have a sure sign of a loyal girl and want to give her up for a sloot that will keep trying to look good for potential mates
>lol

>>7525853

a girl can stop trying to attract other mates without gaining 20 lbs

>>7525853
I think lots of people dress well without wanting to fuck other people. Some people dress well for confidence at the office/school, or just to please their partner.

Or was this solely aimed at women?

>>7525870

Yeah, the 20lbs thing is a little much. That's a fair point.

I stick by my general sentiment though.

But yeah, 20 lbs is kind of a fuck you, because that isn't the makeup/peacock shit. That's naked/bare/base that is just for you anyway.

Why are you stuck on a relationship from 2009

>>7525702
78% of statistics are made up

What's that shit called in op's pic though?

>>7525892
It started in late 2009 and ended at the end of 2012. I was doing a year-in-review journal entry and just started thinking about how my first year single felt, and I just got curious.

>>7525901

a delicious Gloria V

>>7525901
The hambeast or the Gloria V?

>>7525817
>Some of them.
show me one that hasn't

>be chubster, not very /fa/
>get qt gf, also chub, not /fa/
>date for 3 years
>over that time we push eachother and outselves
>now both fit and much more /fa/
>still push eachother to work harder, do more, be better
>you know shes a keeper when she wakes you up with a horn and demands you do 30 chinups and a 5k run with her
>dat post work out sex too i mean damn

>>7525931

There are plenty of examples. You surely know some woman that got married and she still takes care.

Take in mind that woman don't just care about their looks because they want to be attractive for guys, but because of their appearance, how insecure they're out there if they think they look bad, status, etc.

>>7525694
>Am I an asshole
Yes and no. One shouldn't let themselves go entirely when they're in a relationship, but if you let relationships fell apart because of superficial reasons you're bound to repeat this scenario.

Did you ever voice your concerns? 6 years into my current relationship and we've never really had issues because we're direct and honest with each other.

>>7526074
>>>/lgbt/

>>7526122
I voiced them all the time.
>Why are you a hoodie and jeans girl now?
>What happened to your clothes?
>Oh? They've "shrunk"? Are you sure about that?
>I want you to come to the gym with me.
>I wish you were still into fashion.
>I'll buy you whatever you want.

It didn't really matter at all.

>>7525853
Oh that's rubbish.
I make effort for my boyfriend because I love him and want him to be proud to be seen with me. Not because I'm trying to seduce other guys.
It's entirely possible to put effort in and stay entirely loyal.

I tell my gf to put on makeup and dress up when we go out because I want other guys to be jealous.

She'd dress in sweats and baggy hoodies otherwise.

>>7526187

The *only* way this is true is if you *only* do that when you go out with him.

If you go out without him dressed up/make-up'd up, you're attempting to attract the attention of potential mates.

>>7526212
Oh shut the fuck up.
I'm a guy and just because i like to look good when im out to attract.

What >>7526187 is okay but ultimately you should look good not just for your gf/bf but also for your self.

>>7526212
Oh shut the fuck up.
I'm a guy and just because i like to look good when im out doesn't mean its to attract.

What >>7526187 is okay but ultimately you should look good not just for your gf/bf but also for yourself.

>>7526270

>mfw this retard believes than men and women dress in particular ways for the same reasons
>mfw make-up... ROFL
>mfw he really thinks he's made some wise point
>mfw you ask a woman if she'd wear make-up on a deserted Island
>mfw she hesitates, get's a stupid look on her face and says "yes"
>mfw a woman likes to pretend making her lips red, face blush, accentuate her eyes and tits and ass... are "for her"
>mfw all of these tricks of makeup and clothes trick the eye into seeing genetically attractive traits in mate selection
>mfw it's *all* about wanting to look fuckable
>mfw this moron thinks it's "for themselves"
>this is what idiots really believe

>>7526321
>tfw anon nails it on all cylinders

>>7526321
Tell me which do you prefer.

Someone giving up once they're secure in the fact that they've got someone to stick around so they stop putting in effort or someone who wants to look just as great as when you first got together.

Why would i want someone who can't even make an effort not turn into a fat fuck and wear something other than joggers?

"but you're allowed to stop putting in effort into your appearance"
Its one thing after another until the person starts slacking in other parts of the relationship.

You're the real moron for being fine with your dream girl/boy deem you not worth the effort.

>>7526321
you don't know what you are talking about
and also nice generalizing.

i wear make-up and do my hair when i'm not with my bf because, idk...i want to look good?
not to attract, but because it makes me feel better about myself.
that's all.

>>7526321

there's a difference between wanting to look fuckable and good

>>7526336
>tfw anon samefags to the max

>>7526321
My girl says she dresses up to impress other women/feel better than other women, in fact most girls I've dated have said the way they dress has nothing to do with men but rather other women. I personally don't even notice what most women have on to tell you the truth.

>>7526430

I'll say it again:

The getting fat thing is different. I already agreed that that's a valid point.

Secondarily, I have also qualified that *if* the make-up and attractive clothes are worn *with* the mate, that isn't the same thing. If, however, she's doing it *when the mate isn't around*, she's making an effort to be attractive, sexually attractive, fuckable *to other men*.

I have seen this time and time again. And I repeat, the girls who do that are flirting with and fucking other guys when they do this.

The one that clearly hasn't *never* dresses up, puts makeup on and makes herself fucking when the guy isn't around.

Even if she goes out with her friends. Her friends will be all done up and she'll be plain jane, no make-up.

Because she isn't trying to fucking make herself desirable to other fucking men.

>>7526453

Uh huh.

>>7526460

Idiot.

>>7526480

*Of course* she says that. Of fucking course she does.

>>7526321

>implying not wanting to look good for you but for others does necessarily mean you want to sexually attract them

Okay, explain this.

Christmas Eve dinner and Christmas lunch. Just family members. There's nobody out from the family there and there's not going to be. My cousin spends around half an hour for both ocassions with her make up and dressing up. All be said, she was pretty /fa/.

Which fucking male was she trying to attract?

>inb4 she wanted to fuck you

>>7526480

Yeah, pretty much this.
Most women always want to look better than the next one.
Unfortunately, it is a competition.
And also to get the attention and interest of their boyfriend, especially if you are in a bar or something.
Women get very jealous.

>>7526492
don't forget that many women try to look good to impress their female friends.

As a male I like to look good to impress my male friends.

This must mean I want to fuck them.

>>7526498

exactly.
i always dress up even if it's just my best friends.

that other anon is mad to think otherwise.

>>7526122
>you let relationships fell apart because of superficial reasons you're bound to repeat this scenario.
just fuck off
if he's not happy with a relationship there is absolutely zero reason to continue it

he's not obliged to try and save her and convince her to look better in a diplomatic fashion

shrek yourself and stop obligating her and others to fit gender stereotypes

ya predator

>>7526321
you can want to look more fuckable for yourself dude

like if you enjoy looking fuckable, you are putting effort into looking fuckable for yourself

you can just like, look fuckable and not get fucked
simple shit m8

>>7526492
Sure, she could be lying or "just saying that," but I've actually talked to girls/have female friends and heard the same thing reiterated in so many ways.

also
>>7526498
This, my female cousin who is my exact age has been visiting for the last two weeks and I've never seen her in any state of undress or disarray. She even applies make up and does her hair just to lay up on the couch. She's certainly not trying to fuck me

>>7526527
yeah and he should stop feeling obligated to be so masculine all the time so he can ask for someone if his tights are too slutty every once in a while

p sure you're trolling but it's important for people to understand that maintaining gender stereotypes is a pretty big part of maintaining most people's standards for a relationship
if you are my boyfriend and you start acting like an effeminate pussy all the time, I am going to want to ditch you as if you stopped wearing makeup and gained 40 lbs

>>7526492
She needs to make an effort to look good not just for you but for your friends & family.
You can bump into them on the street and although your friends wont say anything about it you dont want them to see that shit.

With facebook too the worst thing is when people ask who your girl/boyfriend is and their facebook is full of fuck ugly pictures that you have to scroll through until you find one where you first got together.

You want to both always look attractive and at your best just to keep the lust alive and obviously having a gf/bf who people want but cant have is a fucking god-tier feeling.

I've said my points, i feel like this gif right now.

>>7526492
>patriarchy

I suppose women do everything just for men?

Do you dress up just to get women? If not, why do you think women are so fundamentally different from men?

>>7525694
What are you gonna do when your qt becomes old, anon?

>>7526565
Resign myself to the idea that I'll have to take what I can get.

Should I accept shit because we all get old?
Why should I lower my standards in my 20s?

>>7526570
>the worst thing is when people ask who your girl/boyfriend is and their facebook is full of fuck ugly pictures that you have to scroll through until you find one where you first got together

>>7526595
dude just stop thinking too much about it.
just follow your heart, as lame as that sounds.
go with someone that you love

>>7526595
well i personally love my girlfriend and want to eventually get her pregnant, its inevitable neither of us are going to be rails forever I'm like 140 5'11 now but my dad is 5'9 180lbs (fat), I don't think I'll leave her when she starts getting big like the black guys

>>7526498
>>7526500
>>7526507
>>7526541
>>7526541
>>7526570
>>7526570

Jesus, it's *right* in what you're typing. Competition. The competition fucking *IS* who is the most desirable. This is fuck simple.

>>7526517

Probably, and I'm not even kidding. That's really gay. And I don't mean that in a homophobic way, but, I've never experienced this in any hetero male dynamic.

Ever.

Looking good for your guy friends? wtf.

>>7526564

Yup. And you've said it exactly in your post. Because of patriarchy. I'm not saying it's a good thing, but we sure fucking live in it. And one of the things that is expected of women is to look as sexually desirable as possible.

Hence fucking make-up.

Christ, this shit is simple.

>>7526541

Are you serious? Yes, cousins *often* want to be attractive to cousins. That isn't even that fucking shocking these days.

And yes, your female friends say that it's "for themselves.

Yes, they say that. Of. Course. They. Do.

>>7526623
My female friends never said that they do it for themselves, it's like you're not even reading anon?

>>7526639

lol, they don't?

>>7526623
Ok, we're done here.

>>7526623
>I've never experienced this in any hetero male dynamic.
Not him but I typically dress better when going out with male friends because I like the compliments I receive from them as well as getting compliments from others while in their company which encourages them in turn to cop better things. Maybe I have low self esteem but it's like when I started growing my hair out and guys were remarking how I had an awesome texture of hair and should keep it at that length, felt great getting positive feedback from people I liked.

>>7526647
No, as I said in my previous post that I had referenced in the post that you replied to, most girls I've talked to/have dated state they wear make up and dress better to impress and best other girls. Not sure where you got "they do it for themselves" from any of that.

>>7526623
you are so delusional,
I actually feel bad for you.

you are going to be one lonely motherfucker.

>>7526623
i'm not sure i understand what exactly your position is but you're being dense. surely its easy to conjure some examples, and saying 'never experienced' is extreme.

off the top of my head: you go to a job interview. interviewee and interviewer are male. you dress to impress. there is no sexual competition or desire between the men in this situation, barring some freudian analysis.

This thread is golden.

Op, you're not doing anything wrong.

>>7525694
I think it's possible your girlfriend felt a, ill-placed, sense of security with you and didn't think you were shallow enough to leave her over the way she dressed.

>>7526679
or consider that she doesn't care if he does leave her

>>7526321
You're on a fucking fashion board. How do you even get these shitty opinions?

>>7526688
I wouldn't move in with someone who I expected to leave me.

>>7526679
I wouldn't call it shallow for wanting someone to make the same effort they did at the start.
What changed in them not caring about making effort then all of a sudden you're no longer worth it?
It's like you're being tricked.

>>7526743

Indeed it's not about making an effort for you. It's about making an effort for themselves.

I don't want to be with someone that doesn't take care of herself.

I don't give a fuck if she doesn't wear makeup. But being in shape is healthy. There's a reason we find it attractive and it's because we naturally look for healthy partners. As for dressing well, it's not something that takes a lot of effort. Either you have taste or you don't. You can dress comfy and/or cheap and still dress fine.

Furthermore, loving relationships are supposed to be based on an attraction on both the personality and looks of a person. I just like your personality? Let's just be friends. I just like your body? Let's just fuck.

>>7526674

>mfw it's already been mentioned that men and women are fucking different.

You're the one who is dense.

>>7526672

Except, I'm not lonely. So, your content-free point is invalid.

>>7526705

Men do not equal women. Nor are we talking about just fashion, but when, where and why women wear what they wear. You retard.

>>7526899

Yes, the weight issue is different. So is dressing to attract *while with the mate*, than trying to look as fuckable as possible when the only males around are those other than your mate.

>>7526623
>That's really gay.

this guy's a moron

>people still falling for the "i dress for other girls, anon" lie
lol. that's like, the oldest lie in the book kids. there is no woman alive who dresses to impress other women. likewise, when people say they "dress to feel confidant" WHY DO YOU THINK THEY NEED TO FEEL CONFIDANT FOR?
lying about why we want to look nice is the dumbest thing we do as humans. not only is it transparent as fuck, but it's also stupid as shit. anyone who dresses themselves to look attractive are doing it for the opposite sex. it's just something you have to get over

>>7526321
Attractiveness plays into any kind of human contact and interactions, not just sexual appeal, so why wouldn't you want to be as attractive as possible whenever possible?

Idk, my ex was a really fashionable chick and I noticed that I always wanted to fuck the shit out of her whenever she wore something nice. I would be more lovey-dovey when she wore hoodies and sweats though.

>>7526993

The only solid rebuttal so far.

At work?

Ok.

Going for an interview?

Ok.

Going out to the bar/grocery/bookstoor/coffee shop/class without your mate?

pfft.

The only "benefit" you get is attracting sexual desire in those "social interactions". You aren't making more money, or getting hired, or rising the ranks or any of it. You are only being desirable for potential mates.

Secondarily, very, very few people actually realize that there are other benefits to attractiveness. In fact, maybe people will claim that "looks" don't matter when it comes to trust, or competency or [number of other things].

For the vast majority of people looking good has to do with being desirable. Full stop.

>>7527038

jumping into this w/o much background, but...

people like attractive people more than unattractive.
people are nicer to/help people the like more than people they don't
therefore, imo, dressing nice even if you're not doing anything "important" will generally lead to more positive interactions with people

i dunno, just my 2 cents

>>7527077

Again, there are differences between men and women in society.

The reverse is actually true for women getting hired. Particularly, as it often is, when they have to go through a female human resources person first.

Also, when dealing with 51% of the population in general, because, as everyone has already said while trying to defend against my position - women are often competitive and catty towards other attractive women.

So, yes, it holds generally true for men. Not so much for women.

You know the main benefit a woman gets from being more attractive? It certainly isn't that women are more likely to treat them better. The opposite is true.

It isn't that more men are going to give them more respect or anything. More men, will, however, want to fuck them.

So...

Yeah.

>>7526942
even though i disagree with this new point you bring up you lost the original topic

poster 1:
>i'm a guy and i dress to impress male friends

poster 2, you being dense:
>i never dress to impress men that's gay

me, being reasonable:
>situation in which one man dresses to impress another

whether or not women are different from men is irrelevant to the stake of this exchange. you must cede that dressing to impress men is something that happens and isn't gay. if you sincerely believe this does NOT happen, or if it does that these men are gay, then i wish you luck with your second semester sophmore year in high school.

my example also works when the genders switch out: woman dresses up to job interview, is interviewed by a woman. she is not dressing up or improving her appearance for sexual reasons

>>7527141

lol, yup. you can look it up to see that the more attractive women actually have a HARDER time getting jobs than less attractive.

also, the catty/jealous thing brings a negative to social interactions with other women. "hey honey i'm going out dressed as sexy as possible." "why" "you know, for social contact reasons". "but.. but... women will like you less. and.. and sure, guys will be nicer to you and buy you drinks and ask for your number and try to fuck you because they.. want to fuck you."

"yeah, that's what I mean. social connections".

lol

>>7527145

Dude, there is a difference between dressing to "impress" or "show dominance" over people at work, or even in the general public, and doing it JUST with your friends.

The way it was said invoked a group of guys getting together at their buddies how and having their own little fashion show and shit.

Also, don't be so offended by having a behavior described as gay. It's 2014, being gay, or bi, or just wanting to suck a dick from time to time doesn't make you a freak.

>>7527175
you've retreated from your original position, which was:

>That's really gay. And I don't mean that in a homophobic way, but, I've never experienced this in any hetero male dynamic.
>any

key word right there

>>7527190

No, no I haven't. At no point was I talking about dressing well to assert dominance at work, or at a club, or at a party or anything of the sort.

I was addressing the particular implication I got from the post. A bunch of guy friends hanging out alone, and this dude shows up all dressed to the fucking nines.

I have never, nor have I ever seen a group of heterosexual males show up at a poker game or barbecue that was going to be all guy friends dressed all /fa/.

That just.. that just doesn't happen in real life.

>>7527141
people don't dress to "get" something. they dress to be something.

the way we dress is about how we see ourselves, and how we want to be seen. it's not about how we want to be treated or what we want to achieve.

>>7527221

Utter bullshit.

Unless you stand around looking in a fucking mirror all day.

Such bullshit. How you dress changes NOTHING about you.

And everyone knows this. The *only* thing it changes is how other people perceive you.

Now making people perceive you in a certain way, whether it be "hot" or "part of the group" or "eccentric" or "unique" or what the fuck ever - that may have an effect on "how you see yourself".

But you can't put the cart before the fucking horse.

God, such bullshit.

>>7527220
dressing /fa/ is not the same as dressing up. the most /fa/ thing to do is pick the right pieces for the right occasions

you need to stop trying so hard to defend your indefensible opinions

>>7527220
"Any" hetero male dynamic means any situation in which hetero men are together. As in, any possible situation or combination.

>A bunch of guy friends hanging out alone

This is ONE situation or dynamic. You would not have retreated from your position if you wrote instead "I have never known hetero men dressing to impress their friends"

>>7527221

>people don't dress to "get" something. they dress to be something.

ur delusional

>>7527240
I bet you're the kind of guy who then turns around and says women are illogical and emotional, without ever noticing how that contradicts your argument that women must be trying to do something logical and sensible when they dress up in nice clothes.

>>7527246

I'm not retreating from anything there, Socrates.

If I read his post wrong, and took an implication that wasn't there, fine, and I've already clarified.

You haven't found the "gotcha" you seem to think you have. I don't even give a shit about being proven wrong, lol.

So, go on and think you've won some point there, well done.

>>7527245

Sure thing, bra. But keep talking about your guy perspective, which has little to do with what I was talking about.

>>7527247
maybe I shouldn't have said that ALL people have the same motives as I do. in any case, there are many people who are as I described. I was probably wrong to say that it's true of people in general.

>>7527262
I don't think you read wrongly, I think you were being unreasonably extreme in your statements.

>I've never experienced this in any hetero male dynamic.

Do you still agree with yourself here? The example I gave was of a hetero male dynamic in which one man dresses to impress another. I'm willing to grant that perhaps you misspoke/mistyped, and meant to say,

>I've never experienced this with any of my hetero male friends.

>>7527257

First of all, *most* women are illogical and emotional. Then again, so are most men.

If you aren't aware of this you have deficiencies in this area as well. Of course, this affects women more than men in society, since patriarchy steers women toward "feelings" based thinking.

Women aren't inherently less logical than men, but that's irrelevant.

Secondly, who the FUCK needs much logic to realize that enhancing sexual attractors... enhances sexual attractors. That's about the most basic, primal fucking thing a human being understands.

Fuck me you're dense.

>>7527292
ahaha I was right

lmao

you're such a fucking loser

>>7527274
>>7527291

I can respond to these simultaneously. I would agree that there are certainly outliers, and I have been generalizing, and have at no point qualified that what I'm saying applies to *everyone*.

It certainly does not.

Jesus Christ. What a terrible turn this thread has taken.

Well, it's clear /r9k/ lost one of its sperglords.

>>7525694
>pursuing partners as objects to fill slots in your life by categorizing them like accessories and expecting your relationships to work
>shitposting on /fa/ about it

>>7527306

>mfw this idiot believes that most people have a solid command of logic, or do not act unreasonably on emotion

Are you stupid?

>>7527320

I meant I haven't qualified that what I'm saying doesn't apply to everyone.

It doesn't. >>7527334

>>7527334

lol memes autism lol if you try to use reason at all ur an aspie lol

Is this your first troll? Babbys first troll? So cute.

>>7527350
did you just make fun of him for using memes then respond with a meme?

>>7527292
Can you like actually red-pill any fucking harder?

jesus christ you absolute spastic

>>7527357

Irony, that. I didn't think it'd be *that* obvious.

Nice call.

>>7526430
eeeew that bitch is so ugly

>>7527320
OK, excellent. Moving on, can you comprehend fashion as an aesthetic exploration? Art is often for its own sake, and not about maximizing potential sex partners.

Fashion can be put along side other crafts like pottery or other decorative arts. Just because one decorates a human body instead of a chair does not mean that the decoration is a sexually charged activity.

>>7527371
bullshit because if art is on the wall u can see it but if there is no mirror u cant see what u look like

u gonna look at a mirror all day?

checkmate atheists

>>7527397
how can mirrors be real if our eyes dont real doe

>>7527402

>>7527038
>mfw society automatically assumes attractive people are intelligent
>mfw people are nicer to attractive people subconsciously
>>7527240
Wow you fucked up here, appearance is everything.

>>7527397
i think your reply was satire but this example actually defeats itself.

>look at painting for a little while
>walk away
>look at own outfit in the mirror for a little while
>walk away

art and outfits are actually more similar than they are different in this regard. also this doesn't get to my original comparison of crafts and decoration, which are different from oil paintings

>>7527468
that's a good question

I guess he's desperate to get laid

>>7527240
Can someone explain to me why this guy is even on /fa/?

>>7527364

One must sometimes wonder if some people even know what the word logic means. If you think most people have any firm grasp of logic, you might be mildly retarded.

>>7527371

Sure.

>>7527468

At the moment, cutting through some of the bullshit.

>>7527475

No. I do fine on that front. However, if I didn't, and I indeed were desperate to get laid... wtf would I come on /fa/?

Haha. Much easier to get laid in a t-shirt and genes than in goofninja.

Much, much easier. Since it is a very few who actually try to "make art" or appreciate people trying to "make art" with their clothes.

>>7527468
BECAUSE I'M HERE TO SHOW YOU THAT REDUCTIONIST PHILOSOPHY IS HERE, AND THAT LITERALLY NO ONE BUT ME CAN HAVE AN OPINION THAT IS VALID BECAUSE I'LL INSULT YOU AT THE END OF MY POST THUS NULLIFYING YOUR POST. I'M DOING ALL OF YOU VAPID SHEEPLE A FAVOR. IDIOT.

>>7527500

>mfw I've already validated other positions and acknowledge sound points
>mfw you are a caricature of only yourself

>>7525909
>hambeast
ur kiddin that girl is woodbury/10

>>7527521
most of us think he's painting an accurate picture of you

but then, most people are illogical, right? ;)

>>7527478
I'm actually impressed you agree, I thought there'd be more resistance.

When people say "I dress for myself," I think that they are talking about this aesthetic aspect of fashion. What I'm getting at is that I think the aesthetic motivation constitutes a larger proportion than just 'outlier.' So that rather than disbelieving anyone who says "I only dress for myself," or "I dress for members of the same sex," it is perfectly plausible and believable.

I don't have any statistics on hand, but I also don't see any reason why you should dismiss what your friends, co-workers, partners, acquaintences, etc., if they say such things.

>>7526187
wait, you're a girl? post a picture?

>>7527536

Indeed. Heh.

>>7527545

I'm far more inclined to think that what you're talking about, which does exist, is exceedingly rare.

Of course on /fa/ it's going to be weighted and heavily skewed toward that end.

But /fa/ is.. /fa/. It is tiny compared to a number of other boards here.

That's because the real world is full of far more /b/'s and /fits/ and /r9ks/ and whatnot.

And, you may not think so, but it seems abundantly clear that a very signifigant portion of people dress for others, not themselves.

If you put each person alone on an island for a year with a large wardrobe container.... how many do you think are going to dress in random shit that is functional to their environment, and how many do you think are going to walk around in the "best fits" with the "best lines" while wearing make up and...

Not many... heh. People dress for other people, mostly.


And you shouldn't be surprised. I have exactly zero issue acknowledging points, or even capitulating to a strong argument.

>>7527545
I don't think it's as pure as aesthetic motivation. I think it's about sense of self, identity. Performativity, etc.

>tfw your gf wants to look attractive for other guys
>tfw she doesn't tell other guys that are interested she's dating you
>tfw she'd leave you the second you become inconvenient or someone better comes around
>tfw she doesn't even try to be attractive for you
>tfw she knows you know this but doesn't care
>tfw you've been dating for almost a year
This situation probably confirms my status of a beta fag, but I love her, what should I do?

>>7527605
stop being a nigger loving cuckold reddit browsing faggot and dump her

>>7527605
Reminds me of myself. You'll look back at it and hate yourself for being an emasculated faggot

Just dump her and move on. At least you could delude yourself into thinking you got your manhood back

>>7527605
I feel sorry for you, man. You've got to drop that girl. Fast.

i like looking better than everyone else
its a posh ting u kno

>>7527605

Angry aspie reductionist YELLING GUY who thinks everyone is an idiot and only his opinion matters here:

I agree with the above. Seriously, put an end to that. Nobody deserves to be treated that way.

>>7526321
entirely agree with this bloke

>>7527240
>How you dress changes NOTHING about you

>The *only* thing it changes is how other people perceive you.

wut

>>7527755

that guy looks uncannily like my dad wtf

>>7527755
The clothes a person wears reflects the kind of person he/she are.

Why do you think all the fedora wearers fit the same stereotype?

>>7527629
>>7527709
>>7527716
>>7527725
I don't know if I should though, the more I stay with her the warmer she seems to get to me, less and less infidelity shit. Plus aside from that she's pretty nice to me and a pretty cool person (and the sex is satisfactory)

>>7527786
>less and less infidelity shit

This must be a trol..

>>7525751
either she must be extremely insecure or u must be extremely out of her league for her to stay w u despite all that
either way u two shouldnt be together

>>7527786
listen you faggot, her loyalty is an entitlement, not a privilege. You're like a dog waiting to get the scraps of her attention and love. You've been dating her for almost a year, you should be a main priority, not someone to pick up the remains.

But you probably won't do it. You're too much of a faggot. You'll figure it out one day

>>7525867
>Or was this solely aimed at women?