/fa/ - Fashion

>>7246575
who are you usually dressed in?

>>7246567

Apples to oranges to bananas to dragon fruit to pomegranate to cherimoya.

thom browne ofc

>>7246575
From external appearances, the cherimoya isn't exactly captivating.
What are you implying about Doma?

Dick or ovens, maison, martin, or margiela?

>>7246575
actually its apples to oranges to oranges again to banana to grapes to grapes again

>>7246567

h or m, or za,ra, uni, or qlo as or os
which one is better

>>7246567
In short: Rick Owens is boring now. Raf is a has-been. Carol is unwearable unless we're talking jackets/pants. Damir Doma is very relevant and I love his new direction, women's wear is amazing.

>>7246595
H is boring now, m is a has been, za is unwearable unless were talkin jackets/pants, ra is very relevant and I love his new direction. Womenswear is amazing

>>7246596
>carol unwearable
>damir isnt meh tier
top kek

>>7246583
idk seems boring.

>>7246596
he raised his prices and now his shit is more hyped yay

>>7246615
eat shit

>>7246596
>being this retarded
>2013

shiggy

>>7246584
it looks pretty awesome imo
it's all scaley and shit

damir's shit is way uglier

>>7246626
angry business man has a midlife crisis goes punk

>>7246596
god, let this be b8

>>7246596
i dunno mang rick has reinvented himself with every new collection. for the first time in a long while he has dumped michelle's influence and gone back into his 1980s LA life. sportswear that is actually sporty and BDSM. im sure some staple pieces will be stocked, but his styling for s/s 13 is remarkably absent the luxury or couture indulgence attributable to lamy.

>>7246584

They're fucking delicious, though.

>>7246678
>for the first time in a long while he has dumped michelle's influence and gone back into his 1980s LA life.
>sportswear that is actually sporty and BDSM.
too bad it looks like shit and isn't even functional

>>7246596
>Carol is unwearable
ho you basic

>>7246583

Wooster wants that ass.

>>7246697
that part is subjective, just because you think it looks like shit doesn't mean everyone else agrees. i'll see you on the court, i'll be wearing a mesh tank top, baggy waxed linen shorts and alien sneakers

>>7246678
this is even worse analysis than the troll who said that leather don't fit into the rickiverse

>"no luxury or couture"
>literally everything was made of silk and bias cut and they wore the lamy's nun hats

>>7246705
who doesn't

>>7246704
my fav shirt of all time

>>7246719
i was talking about the mens. are you drunk.

whoops just reviewed my post and i fucked up major. meant s/s 14

i am also drunk.=

>>7246740
>no luxury or couture
>half the show is bias-cut-draped-silk-shirts

>>7246744
there were only two of those shirts and you know it

>>7246756
so it was less rick than any previous collection ever is what you're trying to say?

>>7246756
Are the fringed leather belts going to make you jump higher?

>>7246767
it was more rick. look at island. look at naska. georgette blazers, skirts, chunky jewelry, sunglasses, legwarmers, accessories out the ass. the embellishment--jewelry and blazers--are clearly lamy. in interviews he talks about trusting her 'intuition' for those collections.

click back up all the quoted posts, what im trying to refute is the idea that rick is 'boring.' he has elaborated completely different themes over the last 5 years. the latest collection is no exception.

>>7246767
damn
>that fit
absolute fire

>>7246793
how strange, then, that it looks exactly like the lamy menswear collection from 1987, when rick owens was working for her as a pattern drafter! it's almost like they've known each other for a longer period of time than we have a substantiative archive of work under the marquee of rick owens, and their aesthetics are nigh inseperable.

georgette and skirts unrick? give me a break. he showed men in skirts half a decade before naska.

>>7246768
'sportswear that is actually sporty' has little, if anything to do with functionality or practicality. what i meant was the aesthetic sense of 'sporty.' for example, many consider polo ralph lauren 'sportswear.' but what you wear to the ski lodge and the fairway looks far more formal than what you'd wear to the basketball court or the weight room. the latter two being rick's domain. tanks, shorts, big sneakers, these are derived from basketball and weight lifting. golf, tennis, or apres-ski 'sportswear' on the other hand, can be more easily nudged into 'dressing up' territory. rick didn't put fair isle and club collars on the damn runway.

>>7246815
activewear is the word you were looking for.

>>7246815
>rick didn't put fair isle and club collars on the damn runway.
Just fringed leather belts and "running" shoes you'd have to be retarded to use as running shoes.

>>7246810
i should be the last to doubt your knowledge, but in this case we have easily accessible pics from 2007 (you said half a decade from 2012). you can't count 'skirted shorts' or 'skirted pants' or 'really long tees' in lieu of the actual, open-bottom skirts worn on the island runway for men. i'm looking through the collection, i'm not seeing any skirts.

also, that's a woman in your pic. did you attach it thinking it was somehow proof against my claim? did lamy's 1987 men collection include bulbous adidas shoes and mesh tanks?

he also had blazers, sure, but georgette? not seeing these either. also, nice selective hearing you have. i also mentioned jewelry, sunglasses and legwarmers. these are not rick's style. didn't we have a quote from the man himself about rejecting accessories?

>>7246874
>did lamy's 1987 men collection include bulbous adidas shoes and mesh tanks?
Did rick's "original" shit include them?

>>7246874
goddess bunny, a male dwarf, for rick owens circa 2001

>did lamy's 1987 men collection include bulbous adidas shoes and mesh tanks?

the video is no longer available but it did include precursors to his nun habits and running shorts, yes. the look, the feel, it was so similar to vicious.

>i also mentioned jewelry, sunglasses and legwarmers. these are not rick's style. didn't we have a quote from the man himself about rejecting accessories?

is that why he wears bracelets? he wears big socks and he's been photographed in sun glasses and carrying bags. stop while you're less behind m8.

>>7246896
>but goddess bunny is wearing the women's clothing!

dustulator fw 2006

>>7246902
>but he has pants!

crust fw 2009

>>7246896
look, we're splitting hairs here, but the pic you provide isn't strong enough evidence. what if the bracelet was the model's choice?

"I hate rings and bracelets on men. I’m not a fan of man bags, or girl bags either—or even sunglasses. I don’t like fussy accessories. Isn’t it more chic to be free?" - rick 2010

who else could change his mind on this?

>>7246902
that's not a skirt. you could call it a dress, but yo could also call it a big sweater akin to raf's 'wave test' sweater.

>>7246910
again, that's a long tank, not a skirt.

>>7246945
>what if the bracelet was the model's choice?

that's rick owens. you realize the gq interview was fluff? he was bullshitting the entire time.

>you could call it a dress.

yes, that was the point. naska also had dresses. are you trying to "win" based on the distinction of dresses versus skirts?

>that's a long tank

....

>>7246945
>who else could change his mind on this?
possibly rick himself? i don't really understand how you're ignoring the fact that rick is wearing -- at the very least -- a pair of bracelets in the overwhelming majority of pictures available of him, or that he contradicts himself multiple times in that interview (but everyone is still ready to hoist it above their heads like moseson sinai if it helps them win an argument about a brand they probably don't have an ounce of personal experience with ..................)

>>7246957
>he was bullshitting the entire time

then why did collections before and after island not have bracelets or sunglasses?

>are you trying to win based on the distiction of dresses versus skirts?

if the argument i am trying to win is 's/s 13 is more rick than lamy' and 'island is more lamy than rick' then yes. do you disagree? do you think lamy has an interest in the weight room, or the basketball court?

>>7246978
what rick wears himself is different (and always has been) from the runway. are there ever any pics of him wearing the skirts he put on the runway? what he thinks people should wear--that is, his propositions on the runway--are different from what he himself chooses to wear on a daily basis.

i also like that you say 'don't have an ounce of personal experience with.' i have a hooded cardigan, skirted shorts, skirt, worker jacket, double layer tee, and boots from him. i have tried on other stuff, of course.

>>7246995
>collections before [naska] didn't have bracelets

anthem, spring 2011

>after [naska] didn't have bracelets or sunglasses

http://www.ssense.com/men/product/rick_owens/black_leather_collar_pin_bracelet/78220
not sure why the sunglasses aren't listed; probably sold out because they had them before
http://www.luisaviaroma.com/index.aspx?#CatalogSrv.ashx|Season=actual&Gender=men&SubLine=&DesignerId=250&CategoryId=&lineDesSel=

>do you disagree?

c.f. >>7246810
>it's almost like they've known each other for a longer period of time than we have a substantiative archive of work under the marquee of rick owens, and their aesthetics are nigh inseperable.

>what rick wears himself is different (and always has been) from the runway.

What compelled Owens to start making clothes in the first place was the realization that much of what some designers make is strictly for the runway, recalling an early trip to Paris when he tried to buy a Thierry Mugler outfit in the window of a shop, only to be told it was only for show.

Ditto for his disillusionment on reading an interview with shock-rock star Alice Cooper in which Cooper confessed that what he really likes to do is drink beer and play golf.

“I remember being devastated, thinking, ‘I want this to be real. I want Kiss to wear that makeup all the time,’” Owens recalls.

“I always resented runway wedding cakes that you couldn’t buy in a store,” he observes. “I hate it when designers do these women as parade floats and they come out at the end in jeans and a T-shirt.”

>i also like that you say 'don't have an ounce of personal experience with.' i have like totally bought his clothing it's like we're the same person

riveting!

>>7246995
what do you think the article was about? it was rick talking about "personal style," which is such a fucking nebulous bullshit term that i'm really in awe people manage to get through even the first two lines of that article without realizing it's a complete wash on rick's part. now "personal style" isn't relevant because it doesn't help further your argument. you're literally holding an argument with yourself.

>are there ever any pics of him wearing skirts he put on the runway?
there are quite a few of him in a column skirt. i don't have them on me, and i don't feel motivated to produce them as evidence besides because you can't even hold a linear conversation.

>>7247030
i concede that the bracelets appear before island, but i do not concede that they aren't lamy. or, at least, more lamy than rick. for every bracelet that rick is seen wearing, lamy wears four.

you point about rick's motivation to make clothes is aside, if not in agreement with mine. i don't think you follow the logic of what's happening here. timber pointed out that rick has been seen wearing bracelets. i pointed out that just because he himself wears bracelets doesn't mean he wants everyone to wear bracelets, and that this is evident in the fact that the majority of his entire ouevre is without accessories. you've brought up a grand total of two collections in which accessories are key, and i say that these collections are ones in which lamy's influence is large.

>it's like we're the same person
moving goal posts. i simply refuted his point that i had no experience with rick. i did not imply that i am in rick's brain. you, on the other hand, seem not only comfortable saying so yourself, but further claim that rick and lamy's brains are 'inseparable.'

i however claim that there are points of departure between rick and lamy, 'sportswear' being key.

>>7247038
was 'personal style' the headline? the quote itself is general. 'isn't it more chic...' is a generality. that is, not personal to himself. if it were personal, he would say, 'i myself prefer to not wear accessories, but others may find it fashionable to do so.' his statement is general and normative. i also think that you're not following the logic here. i offered the quote as evidence that rick isn't (or wasn't) fond of accessories. this supports my claim that naska and island--heavily accessorized--were more influenced by lamy.

follow?

>>7247089
before you pounce on me: i should have typed

>majority of his entire MEN'S ouevre

>>7247089
jesus, just stop. i'm going to repeat myself one more time and then you can go fuck yourself.

>it's almost like they've known each other for a longer period of time than we have a substantiative archive of work under the marquee of rick owens, and their aesthetics are nigh inseperable.

re-read it until you finally get it.

btw ur still using the term sportswear improperly

soz rick ima let u stand the fuck up
this ain your shit

sruli here, please consume V__V
LASER CUT DICKS, COATS MADE OF LAMB CORPSES, REAL FUGGIN ICELANDIC WOOL, SHARK SKIN? WE GOT THAT TOO! AY U WNT SUM TRANSLUCENT LEATHER ON THAT SHIT? DW WE GOT U FREN. NIGA GETN U WET? AYYY NO WORIES CURB THEM NIGAS AND KEEP UR CHILLY ASS DRY - THANK U UMBSTERS? FEELIN THE HANNIBAL? DO WE GOT U THER 2 FREN W/ OUR STATE OF THE ASS RINGS
thank you sruli
thank you for keepin' ur shit a hndid pasent and keepin the basic bitchs at bay

>>7247109
Rick would punch this fuccboi designer with just one punch of his mighty arms.

>>7247102
i've read it, and i get it. i still think rick and lamy can be distinguished. i think it is possible they operate as two autonomous individuals with diverging tastes or preferences. they do not dress in the same clothes, for starters. rick doesn't black his fingers, for example.

also, nobody uses the term 'activewear.'

>>7247109
*s-s-s-tand the fuck back
STAND THE FUCK BAK RICK

>>7247113
DW FREN
THER R NO ACTIV GOODS ASSOCIATED @ SRULIS
4GT RIK - GO SRULI

>>7247122
i can barely understand you and i am not buying sruli. too conceptual 4 me

>>7247131
ur just a stupid basic bitch
dont even reply
stupid bitch

>>7247113
i should distill my point: rick and lamy are not the same person.

since they both produce under the label, it should be possible to identify one or the other's influence. i think the same of thurston and kim under sonic youth. they are different people, have different preferences/tastes, and although there is a meshing or melding of minds there yet remains divergence, difference. follow the work closely enough and i think it is possible to see the divergence. this is what i claim, is it unreasonable?

isnt sruli rekt gay tho?

I dont like buying clothes made by faggots

>>7247144
he has a cute gf who makes avant garde wrapping paper and cute things :(

>>7247147
does by two hairs actually fire or is it just for show? I am considering copping it if it really works so that my uncle can showcase it on his youtube channel for guns

>>7247162
yes
it does...
CONSUME
CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME
LET SRULI PROSPER V_____V

Can /fa/ start liking Lanvin now?

>>7247397

uh ye

>>7247403

>>7247109
pure #fire

pre 2012 kva aint getiing love tho
>>7247397

>>7247397
I need dis

>>7247434

soles on lanvins have an ugly design, its not that bad on that option but other colorways with contrasted colours suck

pic related

>>7247444
Those are sexy, is that from this years collection?

I'm just gonna piggy back this thread

What kind of boots should I get for a holiday trip to london? I want something that looks good but won't get ruined by all the water they'll be exposed to.

I was looking at Red Wings because they've got a boot for everything, but 300+ isn't what I'm looking to spend on these. Ideally somewhere around $150.