/fa/ - Fashion

>>7240771
>redpill
please leave

She blew onto the scene because of her commentary of new collections at such a young age, and then was accepted into the fashion world at the same time as Charles, it was as if the fashion world was looking for a few young geniuses to push around to showcase how inclusive the industry was.

She then took that platform to launch her own little magazine, which is when she actually started dressing ultra fucked tier, and started pushing tumblr trends like flower crowns through it with odd feminist shit that never made any sense.

Once that started happening, the fashion world kind of just let her go, and she hasn't really been a buzz word for quite some time. Her influence has hit rock bottom, and her hopeful start was wasted on a bunch of bullshit.

The rest of her stuff, like the Ted talk, was because she reached mainstream awareness a little bit because she was the cute odd girl with a deep seeded passion.

Her mainstream pull has fallen as well.

Now she just has her devotees following her shit, and she is likely to self destruct into a typical 20 year old eventually if she doesn't start doing interesting or useful work.

>>7240771
OP i dont fucking get it either. Same goes for that Miroslava woman, a dwarf that dresses on expensive clothes and is supposedly /fa/

she was p. smart for a 12 year old but she never really got any smarter and the gimmick is gone

>DA JOOS
I want /pol/ to leave

>>7240771
>How did she become so popular? Is it her Jew parents that pulled some strings or what?

I'd say it's mostly her earnest-ness. She's not concerned with "pretty" like many girls are and she's shown a willingness to learn that's obviously beyond most of her peers. I think that sort of wide-eyed enthusiasm goes a long way in a rather cynical, jaded industry. Of course, the novelty factor is a huge part of it, but you can't deny that the girl obviously works hard given how much actual content she puts out.

>>7240846

Well, I personally feel like Miroslava Duma's style is either hit-or-miss, but the reason people pay attention to her is because she was an editor, not solely because of how she dressed. It's like how people watch what Jenna Lyons does, but because they want to see how her own style translates into her work.

People in the fashion industry think she is a joke, no one is pulling any strings here it's actually the opposite. She's a manifestation of the shift that has taken place in regards to fashion journalism and journalism as a whole for that matter.

She makes a blog, people think it's cute, they share it with other people, it gets huge, then you have 2 things 1. her fans writing to editors and publications saying "you need to feature this person and 2. savvy interns that are hip to shit like tumblr and memes and everything everyone with a day job doesn't give a shit about tells some higher up their publication can get a ton of hits if they write about her.

And so with those two things working together and a handful of other forces at work, someone who has no talent or insight whatsoever but is very popular gets written about, invited to places, and given job opportunities.

Like I said at the start of this post most people in the industry think she is a joke and especially fashion journalists and editors were extra butthurt when she was first getting big because it's like watching a child steal your job and do it a hundred times worse but get a hundred times more feedback and positive responses. I can't imagine how infuriating that would be.

So no, there's no conspiracy here it's just another case of someone being in the right place at the right time and the internet becoming obsessed with them and all the opportunities that follow as people bend over backwards to try and get a slice of the limelight for themselves (case in point teen vogue or whoever it was that brought her on as a writer)

Also this thread is kind of strange, I haven't heard anything about her in ages and figured she had metaphorically died or something. Maybe the real conspiracy is that you're one of her handlers trying to stir up conversation to try and get /fa/ to retaliate like they did with that female fashion leddit forum and cause a big ruckus and get her featured in Jezebel or something.

>>7240910
Makes sense but she still doesnt dress good. Carine Roitfeld is an editor and she dresses fantastic.
Then again it depends on everyone's tastes I guess

>>7240905

/pol/ is always right u sick cunt. The truth will set u free, goy.

>>7240771

this is her dad.

>>7240920
I disagree with some of this as it is kinda suggesting her writing was shit. Her documentation of fashion week was fairly good for a young ass bish fresh outta the internet. It wasn't solid, it wasn't amazing, but it was interesting to see the possible start of what could have been some real talent. The issue is, as you said, she never really grew beyond that.

Her relevance in the industry was more than just a joke, she became that as time went on and she didn't mature the way they hoped, but at the start, there were a lot more than just interns and shitty internet fans hyped on her.

>>7240958
She was never known, or pushed as someone with good fits. It was her 'opinions' and 'writing skill' that were pushed.

>>7240771
>reason I do not know
>Jew

Now you know.
This is the life of the Jew.
Get red-pilled.
Only the JIDF wants to keep you away from it.

>>7240905
>oy vey! Das anti-Semitic!
I want /JIDF/ to leave.

>>7240973
i lold irl

>>7240975
I see. interesting.

>>7240975
>It was her 'opinions'
Who was it that said "opinions are like ass holes, everybody has one?"
>'writing skill'
Her grammar is disgusting. She needs to be put in kindergarten for the rest of her life.

>>7240958

But that's the point. Why would the people (formerly) running French Vogue and Harper's Bazaar Russia have the same taste?

>>7240823
i assumed she would be puttering along in some fashion related job by now. you paint a pretty sad picture

>>7240920
>Maybe the real conspiracy is that you're one of her handlers trying to stir up conversation to try and get /fa/ to retaliate like they did with that female fashion leddit forum and cause a big ruckus and get her featured in Jezebel or something.

No I just google her because I think she's hot and wanted to track her as she went through puberty, but then I started thinking about why someone like her is famous and gets tv show appearances here and there for not really doing anything in particular. But like I've implied I don't really know about this business. And btw thank you for your informative post.

>>7240975
>The issue is, as you said, she never really grew beyond that.

Can you explain this? The way I see it she still gets a ton of press. She did 2 talks fairly recently, the Ted talks and one in Aus.

I thought something fishy was going to happen with her to do with feminism. I don't really know what though.

>>7240975

>Her relevance in the industry was more than just a joke

No it really wasn't.

References: being in the industry and talking with people in the industry, of course publicly no one is going to trash talk a 6 year old girl but behind closed doors it was either people laughing hysterically or being mega butthurt, no one took her seriously, even the handful of industry people who thought she was cute still recognized she was a joke. Also I actually think she set back the movement of older industry people adopting the internet. I can remember telling people to get on the internet and check out this or check out that and being scoffed at because "oh yeah I'm going to go read something from the same place where a 4 year old is considered an educated voice on fashion".

The people who were benefiting from her fame humoured her but nothing more. Seriously, transplant this story into your career field and tell me your peers would actually believe a 2 year old could day trade or land a Boeing 747. Yeah sure everyone is going to encourage and humour the 18 month old baby that wants to be a sous chef but back in the kitchen everyone is laughing their ass off.

>>7241104
jesus christ we went from a 6 year old to a 18 month year old. Does Tavi have the benjamin button disease?

>>7241074
Any charlatan with a strong/persistent will can o a TED talk. That doesn't mean she gets press. You insinuate anyone claiming to represent a feminist position gets an automatic in, this isn't the case.

>>7241104
I don't know about in hardcore fashion journalism circles, or in old world circles, but in general cultural and political circles there's definitely respect for at least her editorial skills. Rookie is about as legit as anything for teenagers can be.

Writing, like dressing oneself, is a lot more dependent on sensibility than most fields out there. It's perfectly plausible that a precocious teenager could be competent in both, with guidance keeping them inside industry standards in writing.

>>7241123
you know what a hyperbole is?

>>7241172

I never said the general public didn't like her, in fact I said the exact opposite. The whole reason anyone's even aware of her existence is because the general public likes her. What I'm saying is within the industry she has always been a joke. She's no different than something like celebrity designers. Of course all the magazines are going to talk about how involved they were in the process and any industry person interviewed is going to say how great they are but behind closed doors everyone is going to talk about what an insufferable moron that person was and how we all hope that type of shit will die already.

>>7241074
The main body of work that is still touted as her magnus opus is stuff she produced years ago. She hasn't really done much of note since, or much of interest since.

As far as the TED talk goes, you'd be surprised how easy it is to get a TED talk when you are a young person with opinions with a mainstream presence.

The issue that she never grew beyond her big break work is the one I was talking about. Not so much that she has done nothing since, just that most of the stuff she has done since is nothing interesting, relevant, or really looked at as her greatest stuff.

>>7241104
I am not suggesting everyone fell over for her, I am just saying it was a bit more then some tired intern and some fab internet kids. She had her champions out there, and they were names, and they did push her and try to bring her out. The issue is she never matured. If she would have matured, she wouldn't have the negativity you are talking about.

It was merely the fact that she turned into nothing that changed opinions. Again, this isn't saying she wasn't treated as a joke by possibly even the majority of the industry, but it wasn't some fleetingly minority of recent grads and internet fads that pushed her into 'stardom', there was much more of a machine behind her.

A lot of the cogs in that machine now try and distance themselves from her by mocking her now. I've found it funny on a first hand level with the shift in opinion I've seen in a few people within the industry.

>>7241176
is it like a super bowl

>>7241209
No, I mean culture writers and journalists, or at least Internet native ones, in general. Not readership.

An uncharitable reading of this situation, if most specialist fashion journalists find her as much of a joke as you say, is that the people in a position to evaluate her skill, but who aren't threatened by her, like her.

>>7241221
What's Gevinson's big thing if not Rookie?

why is she so cute bros?

>>7240771
>How did she become so popular?
How does any blogger become popular? Skillful and lucky networking. Her precociousness was an added bonus.

>Is it her Jew parents that pulled some strings or what?
Well, I assume they bought her a lot of the stuff she wears, and owning nice things attracts attention as a fashion blogger.

>I'm calling it, screencap this post because something big is going to happen with her
>Something is extremely fishy here.
Are you retarded? Just really late to the party? Tavi peaked in popularity years ago. She's probably legal now.

This is the most boring conspiracy theory ever.

>>7241008
>Who was it that said "opinions are like ass holes, everybody has one?"
who was it that said a young girl's asshole is worth more than yours?

>>7241104
The difference is that people do believe teenagers can day trade, land planes, be sous chefs, and even be educated voices on fashion. Because there is such a thing as an outlier, a prodigy. You can bet your ass there are teenagers who can day trade, land planes, and be sous chefs. You can bet your ass there are teenagers who are educated voices on fashion. They aren't running huge labels--as with your piloting comparison--of course, but they're educated.

>>7241221

>She had her champions out there, and they were names, and they did push her and try to bring her out.

She had people who used her as people use any sort of passing fad, hop on, milk it dry, and get the fuck out. You know what though I think even within the media circus she still had more detractors than supporters. In fact that was even an angle they used to promote her something like "the establishment hates her, thus she has credibility!" Like I said complete joke. Her champions were editors and writers in a desperate position trying to hold onto their relevancy. This whole thing went down at the absolute peak of the death throes of old media. Today print is back in full force, the internet is so packed with stupid people with stupid opinions that the benefit it once held as being a democratic medium has now turned against it and readers are once again seeking out much more curated and vetted platforms. The day of reckoning is at hand and any minute now we're going to string up all the those fashion week blogging bozos and try to forget why we ever gave them the time of day in the first place. If Tavi is funny now she's going to be hilarious a decade from now when people reminisce about the mid 00's and when fashion journalism was a hijacked by a 3 year old.

i'd tavi in her gevinson if you know what i mean

>>7241008
I remember hearing that in the movie the slammin salmon

>>7240771
>jew
you knew all along friend

>>7241297

No see this is the thing, people who don't know shit about any of those things think children can do them and even more so than that they want to BELIEVE they can do them because people have this thing where the less they know about something the more they underestimate how much skill it takes to be successful at it.

They tell themselves a child can do it because it makes them feel better about the fact that they can't. People absolutely hate to be reminded that they're rubbish at something. This is why intellectuals tend to be universally despised, their mere existence is a constant reminder that the average person knows nothing and has done nothing. People are jealous and petty. In fact Tavi isn't even the first case of this sort of thing, you always hear about "child prodigies" and they always turn out to be a joke. People just love to keep bringing them up because people just love to pretend that they can do anything if they just set their mind to it.

The reality is most people are mediocre and so they are naturally attracted to these types of personas and project themselves onto these child prodigies. Maybe they failed in the field so they cheer on the underdog.

Regardless the reality is anyone who's a professional can tell you right off the bat exactly how each and every one of these prodigies will turn out.

>>>7241221
>She hasn't really done much of note since, or much of interest since.
um what

Just a heads up tavi's like 17 or something rn and almost never writes about fashion any more at all and has published a couple books and has founded (and currently edits) a very successful "web magazine" thing for teen girls.

She got popular by a mix of
1. being intelligent, articulate, well-rounded and funny way beyond her years
2. being in the right place at the right time

I met her once, she's a nice gal. >>7240823 is pretty on point, although I actually think she's just going to comfortably live off her culture-and lighthearted-feminist--writing empire for ever and/or probably easily find journalism jobs.

Thought this might be relevant a Tavi criticism written by Bebe Zeva:

>I'm not a fan of Tavi and I'm not a fan of Rookie. I think she is the leader of a consumerist, neoliberal lie and she exploits adolescence and sexism to "initiate discussions" from which she profits through book sales and web traffic.

Tl;dr: Tavi has essentially "grown out of" her short career as a fashion blogger and is successfully working as a journalist/editor despite not being old enough to buy a pack of cigarettes

>>7241308
>print is coming back

Yeah, run and often started by people who made their name, made their sensibilities, and still make their home on the Internet.

Print is never going to be the dominant site of discussion in anything ever again. It's right for more intimate content, for chewy thinkpieces, for stuff where curation, making a stable collection of pieces, is a big part of the concept. Just to talk, toss out reportage and thoughts? The web is still going to win for that.

Also, if you're working with more than just Google AdSense, there's no obstacle to keeping a high quality bar on the web. The best example off the top of my head is The New Inquiry, which its founding editor has said is (I think this is exact) "first and foremost a website," but which puts out a monthly PDF magazine that pays every contributor. The whole thing is funded by $2/month subscriptions, no ads. And the PDF content even goes up on the web free after the new issue comes out.

Worst case scenario you just ring it with clickbait but make the good stuff easy to find. Gawker and the Atlantic are perfect examples of two different ways to do this very well.

>>7241368
Except, you know, there actually are prodigies?

I'm not even a fan of Gevinson; I'm not her target audience. But I can respect what she's accomplished. Starting and running a popular publication of good quality is no small feat.

>>7241398
>the Bebe Zeva line
Insert any style journalism ever? The alt lit crowd just needs to stick to personal writing, seriously. Tao does.

Also, Anorak, if you want to know what petty jealously looks like, it looks like that. Just like that.

>>7241454
>>the Bebe Zeva line
>Insert any style journalism ever? The alt lit crowd just needs to stick to personal writing, seriously. Tao does.

Zeva has openly admitted that she vehemently dislikes style journalism and the only "fashion blogging" she ever does anymore is exclusively to support herself financially, she's mostly into writing depressing critical theory these days if she even puts anything out into the public sphere

I don't actually think that's "petty jealousy," that's just Zeva's radical political views speaking

never heard of her before but i did see her in Enough Said. I thought she looked like a 30 year old trying to play a 15 year old very very badly.

>>7241245
Her fashion work is still what defines her, rookie has never been anything of note outside of groups of 16 year olds.

>>7241308
I feel like I am talking about a time before this point, and the initial success, while you are looking at later stuff. I am literally talking about her discovery, and how it has been a quite solid drop since.

>>7241398
And none of that work, has done anything for her outside of sustaining her at the level she fell too after her big bang in the fashion industry.

If you want to see a fall from grace, Tavi is a prime example. Rookie isn't that great at all, and Bebe Zeva is about as dull as Tavi has become, so her opinion is one that like >>7241454 pointed out, is likely seeded in jealousy rather than anything else.

>>7241454
>publication of good quality
>good quality
That is the only point in your post I disagree with. I don't think rookie is of good quality, it is adequate, and runs on trends it doesn't set, or publish first. It is rather dull, boring and un-nurtured.

In saying that, as a magazine run by some inexperienced girl, with a band of fellow inexperienced people, with a small group of people with experience guiding it, it has done well to produce adequately good work some times.

I just hope she eventually matures out of rookie and moves on to something better in the future, but I feel like her fall from grace with fashion will be mirrored in her life as a 'journalist' and 'editor', resulting in her ending up as a 20 something that used to do something interesting.

>>7241454

Have we not come to the conclusion that she flunked out of fashion, and failed at exactly what I'm talking about? I'm not a journalist and couldn't give a shit about journalism, or whatever it is she does now, I wasn't even aware she was still alive. I'm a fashion designer, just stopping by to say no designer worth their salt has ever given the least bit of a shit about Tavi.

As for the print thing, I don't think it will ever take back it's position but real print was on it's death bed half a decade ago and bloggers were considered the new authors and everyone was pandering to these online personas instead of people with real credentials and all I'm saying is that's not the case anymore. Print has found it's niche like you've said and the people behind it no longer need to suck up to e-celebs to stay in the black.

There will always be people like Tavi but I think we've had enough of them lately to last us a while.

>>7240771
it's becuase she's a woman

woman will push each other to be famous for no other reason than YAY feminism

same thing with gurllgamers, fit gurls, cosplay gurls that go to mtg tournements w/e the fuck it is

and most men are pathetic
they'll just give money to any attractive woman

and there is always someone to take that money from the loser men

>>7241467
I have radical political views. Writing off entire fields of human endeavor is not a necessary or desirable part of the package.

Fashion, every kind of journalism, every kind of everything is compromised by capitalism. Duh. Making basic jabs at that does nothing to fix it, help us understand it, or improve people's lives.

>>7240771
She looks like she swag-jacked someone's pleb-tier granny heading to church on a sunday

>>7241576
can i have your grandma's hand-me downs?
no seriously-dough
can i get yo grandma's hand me downs?

aww she got them velcros
raf simons bitch

>>7241519
Rookie has never tried to be anything of note outside 16 year olds. It's for 16 year olds.

As for its quality, TBH I've barely glanced at it because I'm not sixteen. But I've heard it's well done from people who I trust to say that. I'm sure it's nothing earth shattering, but how much is?

>>7241540
What has she ever done except fashion/style journalism? She's never tried to start a line, or anything. From 12 year old or whatever posting fits to a blog to Rookie is one straight line. She's flunked out of nothing.

Old print is still on its deathbed. It's the Washington Post getting bought out by Jeff Bezos and still publishing Richard Cohen. It's either going to be gone in ten years or assimilated, and taken to the web or run as a charity case. The Christian Science Monitor is the future - a nonprofit daily turned web publication with a weekly print edition.

New print is populated and run by people who got their start writing for blogs, and probably still do. And everyone has an "online persona" now.

>>7241542
>and there is always someone to take that money from the loser men

isn't that what happened with your ex?

It's called hype, OP.

>>7241519
>Her fashion work is still what defines her, rookie has never been anything of note outside of groups of 16 year olds.
I mean, yeah, because it's a website targeted AT 16 year olds. They've got a lot of media attention. Gevinson was on Jimmy Fallon at least once (i think twice?) in the past year because Rookie, and Rookie has celebrity (real celebrity) bloggers very consistently. I expect she'd have even more media attention if she wanted it. From what I understand, she's been shifting her attention to finishing high school which is why she hasn't been doing as much in the public eye lately. I know she deleted her (already very private) facebook for this reason

ya dont know what you're talking about

>>7241605
why is this dirty mexican bitch wannabe asian following my posts?

>>7241622
bitch i was posting ITT before you did

>>7241540
>Have we not come to the conclusion that she flunked out of fashion, and failed at exactly what I'm talking about?
What exactly are you talking about? she's running a successful website and is no longer particularly interested in fashion, what did she fail at?

also lol at
>im a fashion designer
as if that has to do with anything

>>7240771
would fuck so hard (now)

>>7241635
sorry i don't scan threads for wetback faggots prior to posting

>>7241650

>

>>7241650
you obviously do since you are always commenting on shit i post and yet this is the first (or maybe 2nd? at the most) time ive commented on one of yours

chill out jabba, enjoy life and god bless

>>7241658
lol is that sieg?

this is the guy calling everyone a pleb smh.

>>7241601
I was simply stating it is what it is as far as Rookie comes. I see people chalk it up to be a lot more then what it is, and I dislike that.

>>7241615
>ya dont know what you're talking about
It honestly just seems like you want to be connected to her, or imply that you are, as you drop all these little tidbits suggesting you are, or were.

The thing is, what defines her career is not the work she is working on today, it is what she was doing before. And that is the point I was making with my comments. Rookie isn't anything special, or significant, even inside the 16 year old girl world, she is still a niche within a niche.

It does have some big names writing for it every once in awhile, but I would attribute that more to Ira and the other people with the leashes than to Tavi.

>>7241637

>as if that has to do with anything

It's the only reason I'm in the thread, re-read my first couple posts you ignorant little bozo! Anyway I'm out, I've talked more about this person I already didn't care about in the last 45 minutes than in the last 45 months. Case in point, I'm glad she doesn't care about fashion anymore because even if she did no one in fashion cares about her. Whatever she's doing now seems like a logical career decision, it would have been awkward if she kept trying to go to PFW and started getting stopped at the doors.

>>7241670

sure is

>>7241674
>It honestly just seems like you want to be connected to her, or imply that you are, as you drop all these little tidbits suggesting you are, or were.
I've followed her career, and am just using the information I've gathered from doing so to point out your fallacies. I didn't mean to sound name droppey although I see how you could've read it that way. I met her once on one of her rookie tour things and we follow each other on various social networks, that's the extent of my personal relationship with her.

>The thing is, what defines her career is not the work she is working on today, it is what she was doing before. And that is the point I was making with my comments. Rookie isn't anything special, or significant, even inside the 16 year old girl world, she is still a niche within a niche.
We can agree to disagree on that one, although I feel like "significance" is relevant, I don't know your personal gauge of significance. I mean like, yeah, it's not the New York Times or whatever, but I've definitely met a lot of people who know of and regularly read Rookie.

>It does have some big names writing for it every once in awhile
They have celebrity "vloggers" at least once a month. Moreover, Rookie has allowed a lot of young female writers/photographers/comic artists to gain their first bits of publicity and has helped many launch their careers.

>but I would attribute that more to Ira and the other people with the leashes than to Tavi.
Idk I guess I'm not interested in who's responsible for their famous contributors, the fact that they have famous contributors regularly is the significant thing here for me. I don't think Ira's that involved with Rookie but I'm sure they have a solid PR team, that's how most publications function

>>7241061
how old is she now?

>>7241681
>I'm glad she doesn't care about fashion anymore because even if she did no one in fashion cares about her.
actually, THIS is what petty jealousy looks like

>>7241061
dat hickey

>>7241738

google m8

17

you guys calling yourself "insiders" are just like, jealous.

she organized this fucking thing: ASK A GROWN MAN. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkIPwx7_6Vg
remember that? it got huge for a few months like less than a year ago. and you "insiders" are avoiding talking about It's About Time? Gandolfini and Dreyfuss? Dreyfuss the billionaire? Gavinson's in like sin. Go to her Rookie mag stuff in LA. she sounds like the 16 year old girl's moms, because jews get this raspy, aged sound to their voice. world weary. and everyone just rallies around it. there's a whole segment of vintage girls fashion that she's probably secretly controlling. popular brands might be putting out baby doll dresses and fitted poodle skirts or whatever that shit is (think taylor swift) but the designers never let anyone forget who inspired them. "yusss i remember reading about taviiii and thinking, " i wunna be jus like herrrrr" and now look at me >:-)" so fuck it. she's done something right.

you also need to accept that western media is totally jew controlled, so like.. they're gonna play favorites. she's just kissing up and mocking a white, gentrified version of the 1950's and 60's, while revealing her true fallibility in the process. it's basically what american media has become. ASK A GROWNUP: JON HAMM. like who the hell is jon hamm? oh, mr. anonymous American Man, written by Anthony Weiner USC graduate. they're all qualified, it's just the expression of the political-religious-cultural-economic relationship between moneyed (think mitt romney) and lenders/traders in america.

my ex appreciated tavi, we did the whole vintage blogger girl thing in 2008/09 but we have grown up. it's hard to make estate sales and thrift stores your entire life, so kudos, tavi.

>>7241650
>>7241659

TRIP FAGS R RUINING THIS BOARD LOOK IF THEY WERE ANONYMOUS THESE POSTS WOULDNT BE HAPPENING HAHAHHAJAHAHBABBABHBHABAHBABABBABABBABBABABAAAAAAAAAABABAJAJ

>>7241061
saggy tits at 14, high waisted shorts with chub, 35mm film grain photoshop express filter......why?

>>7241209
w8 m8 is kanye not a genius designer??

>he is not a god

>>7241637
>no longer particularly interested in fashion
kek

>>7241794
it's true about tripfags, and there is no denying it.

i understand wanting to post as a trip, especially since i've done it.
and even though i brought a lot of good to the forum the amount of "yea but look who that's coming from" is NOT worth it for many reasons.

you can take your trip off and go right back to posting the same shit and you'll get a completely different reaction to it.
a BETTER reaction too.

i know nobody is going to stop tripping, but it's definitely for the better.

trip drama is fun, but not when it brings down every thread.

>>7241807
ill post as anon forever if you tell me who you were

>>7241819
used to go by sieg heil

>>7241819
sieg there isn't there a way to know this is the real sieg.

and nobody believes you anyway.
4chan is ALL you have in your life.
without your trip you'd have nothing left.

>>7241807
i'm guaranteeing you, mr. insider, have even been to a gavi tevinson event. not that i'm proud to say it at all. she's totally a bitter taste in everyone's mouth, for sure, but like, to say you personally know people who are even close to having the power of tavi who snicker at her behind closed doors? absurd.

just look at this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eslLzmeTFM8
Bleached, that band? MTVU played that shit all year. this is rich LA people, i've seen it myself. rich, 16 year old girls from beverly hills and brentwood and malibu and she caters to their parents. so.. the mtv offices are in santa monica, you can go to them if you have any questions. interscope is a block away.

>>7241832
this posts makes no sense to me, so i'm gonna assume you think im someone else.

but yea LA sucks and tbh, anyone who says otherwise was either raised there, gay, female or haven't lived there for 2 years yet.

>>7241828
I would feel bad taking it.

But yeah I don't know the history of the seig trip at all but I feel there are definitely more than 1 about.

>talking shit about Tavi

this board needs to be purged right fucking now.

>>7241858
most of the posts made by sieg are the real sieg and there are plenty of ways to tell.

trunks recently got caught posting as sieg though, so who knows.

>>7240846
Shut the fuck up bitch don't talk shit about miroslava that's my girl

You dress like shit so why are you talking anyway skank
Go back to mexico

>>7241853
LA is a big place you gotta be more specific about what part of it sucks

>>7241878
all of it sucks

>>7241867
But I mean wasn't there another seig before the one in the pictures now? Like I had thought there was a different seig before that guy. Maybe not idk

>>7241881
that's what people say a lot, but they are wrong.
not to sound like a dumb ass but there is enough proof to show that the original sieg is the same fatty posting now.

i don't want to post all the reasons i know, but maybe i will some time. or just look into it yourself.

>>7241880
what's the matter bitch did a cholo call you gay for wearing dem skinny jeans and desert boots?

#818#valleylife#SFV#420#emotionalboys2002

>>7241895
be funnier.

>>7241902
shut up bitch,

I bet your idea of extreme is staying up past your bedtime to microwave some Totino's pizza rolls hoping your mom doesn't wake up and catch you

>>7241907
get off the stage

>>7241910
get off the dick

you better hope I don't catch you slippin in Van Nuys bro

>>7241368
Did you really just deny that there are teens who can do all that shit? You're stupid. I'm not even saying tavi is a prodigy. I'm saying they exist, and you're literally trying to act like they don't.

Is old age hitting you hard or something?

>>7241398
>I think she is the leader of a consumerist, neoliberal lie and she exploits adolescence and sexism to "initiate discussions" from which she profits through book sales and web traffic.

i read this.
Then i remembered it's coming from a tumblrcore narcissist who does the exact same thing.

IMO Rookie is a seriously dope thing for teenage girls. Seems like she just does what she likes and I like her positive attitude.

I hadn't been here in years before last weekend but I'm glad you're still talking about this girl

>>7243038
this is literally the first thread in years.
>>7241398
kek
>>7241308
Yeah
she was just sort of a novelty and now it's over so ..

>>7240771
That child looks like a grandmother.

>>7241790
I wish I knew cameras like you, how do you just tell like that what filter it is? r u a wizard