/fa/ - Fashion

Just forget about it all together

Pastel or you're already in debt.

>>6993359
>>6993360
I'm still gonna do it. Its more for fun anyway. I just overthink things alot. now that i'm even thinking about selling them anyway.

I just dont know if selling basics in addition to my normal pieces is retarded

I don't think you need to stock basics unless you are stocking cut and sew basics.

>>6993425
maybe I'll just wait til I make sexy womens underwear

which probably not easy

>>6993359
Juicy J is shit

>>6993355
leave clothes making to the pros fag

>>6993355

Let's break it down for you. Lets say you want to set up a retail storefront at a strip mall or location with window frontage. Lets assume $300 sq/ft with a lease of $600 a month including maintenance fees and utilities, the price will vary on different locations. Lets assume you keep your shop open 8 hours a day and find a handful of part time employees to man the register paid minimum wage with no medical or benefits, that comes out to about $2250. Your monthly operating costs are just under $3000 a month, or about $100 a day.

Lets say you find a good distributor and you can get a 50% margin. That means you need to move $6000 of product a month or $200 a day. If you can't find a good distributor or can't afford to make a large enough order to get a wholesale price your margin might be as low as 10%. In that case you need to move $30,000 a month or $1,000 a day just to break even.

Lets move on to startup costs. Setting up a storefront including remodeling shelving, tables, counters, etc. is expensive. For a 300 ft store if you build it all yourself you might get it down to about $3,000. If you have to hire someone it will run closer to $10,000. When you stock a storefront of about 300 sq/ft you'll probably want at least $5,000 of starting inventory, $10,000 is even better. You should also start with a reserve of at least six months operating expenses which is about $18,000. So out the door cutting corners you'll need at least $26,000.

do cashmere shit and then sell it for cheap

>>6994252
>nobodies ever sold shit online before

>>6994252

Lets look at manufacturing now. Working by yourself out of your garage/home probably won't cut it at the volume you'll need to sustain a storefront. Lets assume you can find four seamstresses willing to work for $20 an hour in short production runs. Lets say you find a strip mall, office building, or whatever that is willing to rent you an empty room on a daily basis for $100. This makes your operating costs $740 per day. Assuming an 8 hour workday, your operating costs per work-hour is about $23.

I don't know alot about industrial sewing so my figures are not going to be accurate but lets say that it takes a seamstress an hour to make a off the rack dress shirt (A made to measure shirt takes closer to 6 hours). Lets say you use Egyptian cotton at about $8.50/yd and use mother of pearl buttons, your materials costs come out to about $18. Your cost per shirt is about $41 each. You might get $50 retail for the shirt which makes your margin slightly less then 20%. If you can build your brand you might be able to sell it for more but it would be far easier to use cheaper materials which would cut your materials cost roughly in half. If you could move the manufacturing offshore or employed a sweatshop you might cut labor in half or even by two-thirds. Even if you dropped your price to $30 you suddenly have margin of nearly 300%,

>>6994058
I'm not OP, but if everyone thought this way, there would be no pros.

>>6994442
>>6994252
what if you worked on all the shit yourself in limited production and sold shit online?

cuts costs significantly

>>6994314

Alright, lets explore the online route. Hosting and domain registration is cheap, lets figure on $75 a year. To run a serious retail website you'll need a robust Content Management System(CMS) and shopping cart software. A turnkey system will run you about $1000 to $1500. You can of course use a service like Amazon, eBay, Etsy or so on but figure on between 5% and 10% fees and another 10% or so for Paypal. When you're established you might have a merchant account and get your combined fees into about the 8% range.

Once you establish your site you'll need to perform Search Engine Optimization and generate content to help attract traffic. Figure on $100/hr rates, at least 2 hours to start. You'll also need to do your own marketing, radio ads, newspaper, classifieds, posters, flyers, etc. Marketing is an area where it comes down to, "How much do you want to spend?"

You'll need to figure out how you'll do shipping. I favor USPS Priority Mail because it is cheaper then UPS and you can flatrate your shipping, you can schedule pickup and even dropoff of no-cost shipping materials.

>>6994546

If it's just a hobby and don't care about making money then that's fine. If you expect to make money off of it, then you need significant exposure to make it work, i.e. you are ALREADY a brand and everyone is already clamoring to buy your goods. If you need to build your brand then you'll need to do alot of marketing, you might need a larger inventory then you can produce personally to make up the cost of marketing.

No, you shouldn't. Got any sketches of ideas? I'm a sucker for stuff like this.

>>6994442
>>6994547
>>6994647
>>6994252

Not op here, thanks for the heads up. I'm currently working on gaining some capital to open up a local store with a web front, mostly focused on streetwear and workwear. Hoping i could maybe one of the bigger seller of the really great japanese brands that are barely exported at exorbitant prices.

I have a lot of experience in both system's administration and web dev and have a designer friend who's in to help me on my project.

I'm thinking of maybe buying a small warehouse and starting the website first but i'm not exactly sure.

>>6994058
>>6994670
i've drawn out the pieces but I don't have a scanner til tomorrow at school.

luckily some girl I know is teaching me how to draw anatomically correct figures so i can do his better.

the three limited runs are classic americana, neon 80's, and retro spacecore. oh and medieval(sortof) but those are just for fun.

the rest of the pieces are for fun to, but they'll be staples that are sold more consistently and odds are I can throw a rag tag group of art students and old women to sew up some of them.

I mean I got money for the materials. Getting my sheers after I finallly get my designs down

web hosting won't be too hard. I've had exp with google for marketing a few blogs and I'd like to think I know enough about web dev. to get by...we'll see though.

note to self; buy better fucking pencils

>>6994680

You'll have to watch out for customs. Your personal allowance for imports is about $3,000 a year. If not you might need to go through an importer and pay their fees which could go up to 10%. That's all assuming that the clothing is licensed for sale in the US, if not it can get tied up in customs. You might need to pay a licensing fee to the manufacturer in order to sell the clothes in the US, EVEN IF YOU'VE ALREADY PURCHASED THEM IN JAPAN.

>>6993412
oh fuck yeah another online basic store...

if only uniqlo, that one australian site, or everlane didnt exist

>>6993355
i want to jizz all of andrej's face and lips

>>6994905
I'm actually in canada but that might cause an even bigger problem when it comes to customs. I'll definitely start by informing myself with the compabies before doing anything. Still have a long way to go.
Now, lets say i start my business and sell mostly canadian products and some easy to acquire imports, where do you think i should start to buy some japanese garment. I have a few names that comes to mind for importators(want agency, nepenthenes) but maybe i should just import myself with annual buy ins straight from the brands thrmselves? or why not both?

>>6993355
is that a boy or a girl

>>6994992
sorry for the shitty writing btw, switched to mobile.

>>6994992

What you could do is take a yearly trip to Japan and bring back clothing under your yearly allowance then resell them. This is considered gray market imports but technically it's not illegal in most of the world. I don't know if you can bring in enough material and charge enough money to recoup the cost of the trip and sustain a business. That's part of the reason why the markup for Japanese imports is so ridiculous, they have to make up for the expense. On the other hand, low volume legal importation and licensing may not be possible unless you're approaching a small time designer with a small storefront themselves.

>>6994997
gtfo newfag, its a girl ofc

>>6995029
But her hair looks shitty like a tranny and she has man jaw and eyebrows. Would not be surprised if not at least hermaphrodite.

>>6995030
Or find someone to forward it to you, send inconspicuously and heavily mark down the packages. But you didn't get that from me.

>>6995174
post face pic faggot

>>6995210
this one
>>6993355

>>6995190

Not feasible to sustain a business, the cost of shipping items piece by piece would wipe out the saving on tariffs.

>>6995174
hair looks great
large jaws and eyebrows on women are great

>>6995247
how do you think euro makes money?

>>6995261

No idea since I have no idea what you're talking about.

>>6995268
Σ▼ƦƟ/ƒ▲/Ğ runs a bigcartel where he resells rare pieces off y!j and japanese rakuten (presumably that he gets a friend in japan to ship to him below cost.)

http://oot.bigcartel.com/

not saying this is a typical experience by any means.

>>6995261
Forgot what he does for income but I know that he inherited like an entire fucking house. Pretty sure the mortgage is all paid off as well. He would know better than me though.

>>6995277

Sounds like it's low volume, on that level you're making spending money. If you're trying to do it on a level high enough to keep a storefront stocked you're going to attract attention from customs.

ur ideas are probably shit