/fa/ - Fashion

>>6944144
you're ugly sorry man... you need a whole revamp, new clothes won't save you.

>5/10

Surprised you even got that

>>6944155

Well, at least can I have revamp tips? This sucks.

wow you're ugly. you kind of look like Gollum

>>6944144
aren't you kind of old to be bothered about what we think

>>6944179
I'm 21. Fucken hell, why do people always think i'm 28+

>>6944185
how.... yeah you look way old even mid 30s would not amiss tbh. did you not take care of your face? first of all you could get better hair and do some exercise, eat better etc.

>>6944144
>>6944155
can ugly people be /fa/?

You're one of those people I would write off before even talking to.

Like you're so ugly that I wouldn't even do anything to acknowledge your existence even if you were talking to me

There's only one thing that makes a person ugly: lack of self esteem. Take a look at Rick Owens. Extremely funny looking, even more so than Steve Buscemi... but he has accomplished things. He put his mind towards making things happen and then he made them happen. You'll feel good about yourself. Maybe you should start eating well, exercising, socializing, and educating and working. Just increase your general worth. Trust me, it works, and it's your only hope.

Work out, grow a beard.

Decent clothes are the last thing you should be thinking about

>>6944200
>how.... yeah you look way old even mid 30s would not amiss tbh
Wow..

>did you not take care of your face?
What do you mean? Wash it?

>first of all you could get better hair and do some exercise, eat better etc.
Yeah, a haircut at some stage is definitely on the agenda. I do brazilian jiu jitsu 3 times a week, & I don't eat that much shitty food..

>>6944209
I'm not sure if this is just 4chan making a special effort to be mean or would this poster legitimately ignore me if I started a conversation.

How tall are you?

>>6944221
Hah you're not as bad as everyone says here although you look old for your age. A light beard might help. Your posture in the pic is stupid and the t-shirt is totally retarded the sleeves/neckline/shoulder all look daft which makes it harder to tell how you look.

If you're in good shape from ur martial arts then get some cheap well fitting t shirts from h&m

>>6944221
/fa/ is gonna do that.

>>6944215
this guy is right.

>>6944177
First off, and this should go without saying: Don't put your self-image or your self-worth in the hands of a bunch of anonymous internet strangers.
If I were you, I would get very fit, keep my hair cropped close and pursue a milsurp and workwear based look. Between a good body, a clean cut and a rugged, utilitarian look you could easily get the bulk of the physical stuff out of the way. Most people can benefit from surgery, so if you care enough to do that to yourself it's always going to be an option if you have the bank and are young enough to heal.
If you want to market yourself, you should capitalize on the things that are unusual about your appearance, but couch them in excellent clothes and a good body. Lose the graphic tees, too. You need to present yourself without branding. It will help. What your goal should be is to defy some of the traditional beauty conceptions while at the same time satisfying others (i.e. body and appearance). It's not as hard as it sounds. Just work to become your best, and your own excellence will carve the niche for you.
Beyond the physical will be your greater challenge. You must develop a dynamic and appealing personality. This can only be done by experiencing all that life has to offer. Taking risks, growing and maturing. Your soul will be your most important accessory, if you get my drift. Become the man that others want to be, and you'll win the game. If you want to.

>>6944232
This is probably your most viable option.

dude you're like a 2
get plastic surgery

>>6944215
But Rick Owens is no where near as ugly as this guy. He's got a weird face, but Rick is definitely approachable. He kind of has doe eyes.

This guy though, I don't even know where to start with this guy...

How do people take pictures of themselves and manage to look caught off guard by the fact that someone is taking a picture of them?

>>6944144
As you probably noticed, most people on /fa/ are utter pricks. I think you're a good looking dude (no homo) and dressing well will only help. What you want to do is keep it simple and classic. Don't dress to try and stand out. Develop an attitude of quiet self-assurance. You got this, man.

>>6944203
in some cases it can give them character

Work out for 2 years then get new clothes

You're totally fixable

you don't need to do anything. Jiu Jitsu guys gets you all the chicks

If you're good, that is

>>6944229
Around 179cm

>>6944232
I have always felt that facial hair makes me appear even older but I might give it a go.

>>6944215
Hmm I suppose. I'm on a journey at the moment but due to IRL dramas it'll take a few months till shit cools down.

>>6944248
Yeah I'll try the light beard. How light exactly?
>stupid posture, t shirt
I'm pretty terrible in photos. That's a jiu jitsu training shirt, I took the photo half an hour before I left.

>>6944261
>If I were you, I would get very fit, keep my hair cropped close and pursue a milsurp and workwear based look
Besides my 2-3 times BJJ a week? I'm gonna get a haircut at some stage, what do you mean cropped close? What are some examples of milsurp/workwear? Steel cap boots?

>surgery
I'm not that desperate, hookers are much cheaper. And they'll love anyone for the right $

>capitalize on the things that are unusual about your appearance
Like what?

>defy some of the traditional beauty conceptions while at the same time satisfying others
what do you mean traditional, since I'm ugly as fuck I don't know anything about beauty

>>6944353
have you thought about using anti aging cream, it might help

>>6944289
That's the thing though, since starting this 4 years ago it hasn't gotten me
>laid
>hugged
or even
>smiled at
by any potential partners.

>>6944272
D:

>>6944277
I'm a really bad selfie taker. And I feel too insecure to get others to take pics of me.

>>6944283
Yeah I'm gonna need a wardrobe update.

>>6944286
Thanks. Do you agree with the mentioned clothes style above? Or what do you think? Plain button up shirts? Longsleeve or short?

>>6944368
Hurr hurr I know I look like I'm 45 but please.

did no-one see those shower curtains??

i mean really OP.. wtf

You look like the kind of guy who beats up niggers and drinks a lot of beer with people who look just like you. If you're beta, just do that and you will get chicks.

Also, if you're British that look should be just normal.

>>6944393
sorry, i didn't mean it sarcastically. maybe see a dermatologist... it just isn't normal for 21 year old to look so old :s

>>6944501
where are you from?

>>6944436
They aren't shower curtains. They are hanging decoration things. The shower is a glass box.

>>6944448
Kind of yes. Me and everyone like me enjoys getting onnit and talking about how shitty niggers are and if any walk into the room they'll get the bash.

>not british

>>6944454
I don't think I look that old tho... So why the hell does everyone else

>>6944507
New Zealand

>>6944501
>I don't think I look that old tho... So why the hell does everyone else
your own bias, you're more used to how you look so you don't think a lot of it. well, the comments itt confirm that you look older than you actually are to most people

>>6944386
>That's the thing though, since starting this 4 years ago it hasn't gotten me

My purple belt gets me so much poon

What beard style would suit me? Can anyone post some pix? Also, I'm a usual glasses wearer, I'm wearing contact lenses in the photo. Do you want a glasses pic?

>>6944533
Where the hell are you advertising that to be getting poon from that fact alone? Do you go to walmart with your gi on?

>>6944560
yeah post more pics. maybe the op one is just bad and we're wrong

I took 2

Fuck upside down ffs. Gay fuckin iphone

Here's the first one

>>6944645
second one

what the heck are all these comments? you look fine, not model-tier of course, but fine.

>>6944652
get a buzzcut

your haircut accentuates your failing hairline and thinning crown

>>6944652
wow you look late 40s with glasses

>>6944661
he looks normal for a 40 year old

>>6944664
>>6944667
Well since I look 40, would it be possible if not plausible to pick up a milf since i don't look str8 out of highschool?

>>6944676
Sure, you just have to lie about everything and have lots of monet.

>>6944676
No. Milfs like young cock, not guys who look recently divorced and paying for child support.

>>6944386
Longsleeve, except when you're living in a really hot area.
It all comes down to what kind of clothing you are searching for, in what area you are working (managers should dress differently than it workers than mechanics...it all comes down how casual you want to look.)
Besides, the usual advice: Get a nice haircut, work out, eat healthy, drink lots of water, enough sleep, etc.

>>6944716
The 2 above pics are taken in a longsleeve altho the sleeves are rolled up. I'm just looking for a look to make me slightly more attractive since I'm butt-fucking-ugly as it currently stands. Overall aesthetics reattempt really.

>>6944645
>>6944652
All you need now is a personality and you'd be a pretty likeable guy. You do have a personality, right?

>>6944353
I think a full on beard would look good on you.

With your head shape and proportions, you will probably never look "beautiful" in the male sense. By this I mean the model tier boyish and youthful faces you see.

But your features are somewhat harsh and even a little frightening under the right circumstances. Get ripped and grow a full beard and you might look like a manly strong dude, and have a very masculine appearance.

>>6944832
I think so, yeah, but my personality is basically a reflection of everyone else I hang out with's personality. We all smoke weed/drink, love to party, etc. Typical 21 year olds. Would be considered normalfag if I got laid frequently.

>>6944854
>full beard
I've never grown one before so I have no idea how it will look but I'll give it a try. It's not like I can get any fuglier.

So my main issues (like anyone else that's fugly) are
>get better clothes
>get beard/light beard
>start working out
>haircut

Anything else?

>>6944953
I would also consider getting contacts or better glasses, the ones you have now are not too flatterin

>>6944994
I like the glasses from the two pictures I've seen him wearing them. Reminds me of DJ Wheat.

>>6945004
well then OP I guess its up to you then.

I've taken a second look and now I can't decide if they look good or not.

I don't like DJ Wheat though. (as a caster)

>>6944994
The first image is me wearing contacts. Quite a few people said they prefer me wearing glasses to contacts anyway.

>>6945004
thx

>>6944144
>The usual rating from /soc/ I get is 5/10

>>6945103
????

>gracie barra

Olá, brasileiro.

>>6945103
soc: inflating beta egos since 2010 (or whenever the fuck that board was made)

>>6945190
Nahhh not brazilian but love GB!

Getting a haircut today so hopefully that improves the odds

>>6945355
godspeed anon.

One last thing, you can only ever be as attractive or successful as you yourself allow yourself to be. Don't be so negative and self defeating. You aren't the ugliest person alive, and I'm sure you'd be a great guy to be friends with. Hold that head up.

>>6945379
Yeah I understand what you are saying but being a great friend isn't gonna get me laid..

>>6945417
Being a great man will.

>>6945435
How do I become a great man?

>>6945435
Reply of the year.

>>6944261
poet how do I live life to the fullest?

like how do i know what risks are good?

pls give an indepth response

>>6945208
This. /soc/ inflates ratings by +2, /fa/ deflates ratings by -2.
Source: My impeccable observation. 100% spot on.

Might as well ask this here. I've got really weird leg proportions like my Thighs and Butt are huge and my calves are pretty skinny, i'm also a dude. Is there anything I can do to be /fa/ or am i just goign to suffer forever. I run like 8 miles everyday hoping to make my shit smaller but it doesnt work ;_;

>>6945560
>Implying /soc/ isnt forgiving to girls and bretty cruel to guys.

>>6945560
More like:
Average people on /soc/ receive: 7/10
Average people on /fa/ receive: 4/10

>>6945579
thats what he said p much.

>>6944155
I dunno maybe he could grow his hair out and pull off the loose fit/oversized homeless look

>>6945593
Yeah, but a 9/10 can't receive an 11/10.

It's more about how they treat the middle 50% of aesthetics (2.5-7.5/10) than the outliers.

>>6945579
Change your fucking name faggot

>>6945540
also interested, keep in mind I'm completely alone in this world. Do I just go to shows alone like a weirdo? I don't even know where to start, man.

being real.

You not that bad, your in okay shape is really important.

wear glasses from now on. find a good suit, nice blazer for casual, don't ever wear graphic tees just wear dress shirt(white ,light blue,) some chinos or skinny jeans.Grow a beard.

smile and speak and a low clear voice here's some inspo for you

>>6945625
nou

>>6945630
Also get bigger glass you need something bulky on your face.

>>6944261
This is poet at his best

>>6945604
Nah sorry I'm not growing my hair out. Getting a haircut this afternoon.

>>6945630
I normally wear glasses, did you see the 2 pics that I posted? I'm not gonna wear skinny jeans, I'm more of a Dickies pants kind of guy. I'll work on the facial hair

>>6945686

>>6944261
>you'll win the game. If you want to.
>If you want to.
Most important part of the post right here.

Wanting to be a winner isn't the same as wanting to win.

>>6945558
Instead of trying to get your thighs and butt smaller get your calves bigger.

I'm in a similar situation so I started working out (not just running; full body routine). I'll never be /fa/ in the heroin chic sense, and I don't want to be, so I'm going for a built look. Clothes fit me a lot better now than when I was skinnyfat.

>>6945784
I was talking about the calm and collected intellectual who posts on /fa/ not the bald man who likes to dress like he lived on a spaceship.

>>6944185

>1'm 21

>>6946021
How old do I look?

In other news,
>get haircut
>look worse

Fuck sakes

>>6946038
basically u look like you've given up on having children of ur own and you have an okcupid account

>>6946038

Early 30s. With glasses about 40.

>>6946048
>mfw my 36 y/o friend at college recently split with his wife, hardly sees his own kids and has an okcupid account

>>6946048
>mfw my 36 y/o friend at college recently split with his wife, hardly sees his own kids, has an okcupid account and looks exactly like OP

>>6946048
I still want chrilden, but yes I am on okc unfortunately

>>6946059
Can this work to my favour at all? At least it's better than having a babyface.... isn't it?

>>6946097
>tfw not your friend

>This guy is 21

I can't habeeb it

>>6946097
do you have his wife's number

if no can u ask for it for me pls

>>6944386
The no homo guy here.
Agreed with the mentioned style, long sleeve shirts and button ups. Cardigans. Chinos. Suede boots/shoes. You look mature for your age and there's a set of women (including younger ones) who sploosh for that.

>implying OP couldnt pull off ugly

OP you look rugged, dress accordingly

>>6945824
>implying I haven't been planetside for months

Here's a pic, post haircut. I don't know what the fuck my poofy topbit is doing - surely it wasn't there before I took the pic...

>>6946662
Cool. Yeah I might try to locate some decent clothes in the next few days. Don't have a fuckton of money so I'm gonna try look for 2 for $30 deals and stuff. As for shoes, I wear a pair of these: http://www.blog.peacemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Nike_Dunk_low_denim_mailer-590x245.jpg

>>6946701
Suggestions?

>>6946741
>Suggestions?
beard, flannels, tons of layers, boots

>>6944144
First off, stop repping Gracie Barra off the mats faggot. Afterwards lift some weights and get a haircut, maybe even a new apartment.

>>6946705
do you believe in aliens poet

>>6946741
second pic post-haircut, still have that poofy top bit ffs

>>6944652
You look like my friends dad and he's like 56

you look very old

>>6946755
Yeah, I just don't think they're gonna have squat to do with us for another few hundred years (assuming we even get our shit together by then).

>>6946753
jeff as a 6
lol

>>6946760
Use like, face products. You got so many lines and your face kinda sags, and those bags. Use a toner or toner pads and your skin looks dry and red. Get some sun screen protecting moisturizer too.

Tryna be nice here but you really do look like you're 35 or s/t, a beard would help probably?

>>6946755
What question are you asking here? "Do you think aliens have come to earth?" or "Do you think there are ETs out there?"

"Of course" and "Of course not" are the correct answers to those. I'll leave you to guess which one matches to which.

I still can't get over how much of an old man you look like.

>>6946777
same

i mean theres like an infinite number of planets and shit ones gotta have life

i doubt wed ever see em tho unless we/they figure out how to teleport, even travelling at the speed of light itd take thousands of years of travel to find anything

>>6946753
>First off, stop repping Gracie Barra off the mats faggot

Lol, nope

>lift some weights
Yeah maybe

What drugs do you do, OP?

Height and weight

People without wrinkles tend to look younger when they weight less.

>>6944144
shave head. grow full beard. +2

>>6946766
>>6946775
Hmm...

>>6946790
>face products
lines and saggy face and bags, will "toner pads" fix that?

Dry and red, sunscreen protectiong moisturizer. Any other products I may need?

>>6946792
Cheers kid, might take you out for ice cream sometime

>>6946810
Smoke weed several times a week. Drink alcohol maybe once a week, once every 2 weeks.

Height 180cm
Weight 79.7kg

>>6946828
I was considering going skinhead but people already call me racist as it is...

>>6946831
I'm a poorfag and I use Anthony Logistics toner pads and Clarins mens moisturizer and they're like 60 bucks together. First one last a month, other one last around 2 months.

But I have good genes to my skins naturally nice but I get bags and everyone gets blackheads so they help me keep my skin nice around my eyes and nose, plus you feel fresh. Also get a liquid concealer to blur any imperfections

>>6946795
I personally think that the tech really required for true interstellar travel is a very hard-won thing. We can't even figure out how to keep our astronauts from getting osteoporosis after extended stays aboard the ISS, forget about actual life in space. All our muscles atrophy, our internal organs weaken. We still don't really understand the full import of gravity on the way our circulatory systems evolved, and there's a prevailing notion among many scientists that we're pretty much tied to this planet and will wither away to disease riddled skeletons when taken out of earth orbit for too long.
So there are potentially thousands of minor things keeping us out of space. Evolutionary hurdles, biological and psychological hurdles. Before you can even begin talking energy sources (a whole world of problems unto itself) and engines suitable for interstellar travel you'll be stopped cold by the biological ones.
Of course, it could be done, but it would have to be the work of an entire species, focused and coalescing its might upon a single goal over the course of what might end up being centuries.
Several theorists and sci-fi writers have delved into this, but I forget the names. The general consensus seems to be that we'll sooner be in charge of the weather and powering the entire globe renewably than we will be meeting aliens or traveling to distant systems.
It's the sort of tech that doesn't reveal itself willingly to a species as troubled as ours is, in my estimation.

There's also the problem of sheer scale - we really are a single grain of sand on an endless beach. A star-faring race would likely pass us by on account of sheer improbability.

>>6946760
beard
black-rimmed glasses
flannel shirts

go full lumberjack

>>6946869
damn that would make a great horror movie

trapped in space and wasting away

i guess thats p much moon tho but for diff raesons

>>6946850
Those two products are way out of my price range. That'll be around 90 where I am. Would something like this be suffice:
http://shop.countdown.co.nz/Shop/ProductDetails?Stockcode=740047&name=nivea-visage-pure-natural-facial-cleanser-toner&search=toner%20skin
http://shop.countdown.co.nz/Shop/ProductDetails?Stockcode=87967&name=nivea-visage-toner-refresh&search=toner%20skin

>>6946869
Am I still on /fa/

>>6946828
you trying to make him look 100?

>>6946876
Yeah nah yeah nah don't think I'll be going full lumberjack, unless I am actually working as a lumberjack, of which case I'd do the full monty and dress the part too.

>>6946930
Yeah, fuck.

>>6946922
Also this product, this is the only sunscreen moisturiser I could find, or is it a bit girly...

http://shop.countdown.co.nz/Shop/ProductDetails?Stockcode=253582&name=olay-complete-moisturiser-uv-protect-face-lotion&search=face%20moisturiser

>course it's fucking girly

>>6946922
>being that poor

Sorry can't help you.

>>6946985

>>6946985
I'd usually be able to afford it but recently lost my job so I gotta jew my money out sparingly

Anon, quit all this fashion nonsense and get back to training.

I am disappoint

>>6947047
I was at a seminar all weekend! Three 3hr blocks of new age techniques, de la riva, 50/50, berimbolo, spiderguard etc. Got BJJ tomorrow night, gonna be dope

At least you don't need to be male model tier to do bjj

>>6946920
I'm awfully excited to see Gravity. That seems like a true, space horror. A lot of sci, not much fi.

>>6946869
How does all the transhumanism stuff fit in with your vision of our exploration of deep space? Surely freeing ourselves from our biological limitations is the way to go here? In fact, why send humans at all?

I'm also curious as to when this fad of imagining aliens will die out. When will we finally accept that the search for extraterrestrial life is/will be:
Futile
Disappointing
Not worth it
and concentrate on improving the human race instead of looking for someone else to do it for us?

Also I'm sorry for butting into your conversation like this. It /is/ a public forum after all and I /do/ enjoy shoving my opinion into people's ears. I don't get to geek out like this very often with people who have their own imaginings of the future.

>>6944652
>>6944645
Shave too

>>6947078
Everyone is telling me to grow a beard...

Jesus Christ you look old.

As for fashion, dress older/more mature ("dadcore")

Forget the peers of your age group; you'll be too busy fucking their mothers

>>6947215
I'd rather fuck milfs than girls my age tho.

I'm thinking next time I go into a bar to chat up some 30 year old. Reckon it'll work?

>>6944144
Gracie Barra? Where? What belt? How long?

>bjjfag here

>>6947234
New Zealand

Been training there since december in gi. White belt 1 stripe.

Previously had about 3 years exp training nogi at another gym. I prefer gi to nogi.

>>6947242

Since December only one stripe?

you sandbagging?

>>6947253
He gives a stripe per 30 classes. I'm gonna estimate I've done 45+.

>>6944144
Grow a beard and dress dadcore. How old are you?

>>6947242
Oh wow my girlfriend lives in New Zealand. Where about?

I live in New York.

White belt of almost 1 year now (Instructor doesn't care to give out stripes). Doing pretty well. My instructor is a long time student of Marcelo Garcia, Pablo Popovitch, and Matt Serra. We do a lot of Mendes Bros stuff though.

Competing next month, woo! We specialize in nogi, but this will be my first gi tournament.

>>6944652
there's honestly no way you're under the age of 40

I think you should grow your hair out. Not long. But have something to style.

You have a shit hair line so you need to hide it with bangs. But don't you dare let the bangs lay flat. Style that shit.

>>6947253
What do you mean sandbagging

>>6947260
What do you mean dadcore, white collar office shit?

>>6946869
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale this relates to what you are saying

>>6947266
I'm in Auckland. Where bouts is your GF? Haha don't worry, I'm much too old for her.

Marcelo Garcia is pretty good. Learned some DLR guard, 50/50 guard, berimbolo, spiderguard etc. this weekend.

Might do my first tournament in November, it's nogi.

>>6947267
Yeah well..

>>6947275
My hair is shit when it gets long.

>>6947294
Wellington.

>Marcelo Garcia is pretty good.
Nigga are you serious? He's a legend and arguably the best BJJ athlete of all time.

Good luck with your tournament. I did two nogi tournaments so far at under 140 lbs. Took gold in the first one, second one I lost by points because the ref sucked.. Still got a submission though

You look like a man but I'm guessing you dress like a child. Just dress like a normal adult male. Make sure your clothes fit.

And you look slavic. You could always go for slavcore.

>>6947317
>Nigga are you serious? He's a legend and arguably the best BJJ athlete of all time.
Yeah I know. Me saying "pretty good" usually means I have very high regard for the subject.

Congrats on the gold.

Why's she in wellington and you in USA?

>>6947348
My normal t shirts are like, mostly graphic tees. I need to buy more clothes. And I don't think I'm gonna dress slavcore,
>shaved head
>singlet
>glasses
Shaved with glasses looks kinda beta, no? Although I could probably slav someone good, wrist grab then hip toss onto concrete, finish off with an armbar.

>>6947367
>Looks kind of beta.
Only a beta can look beta.

but.. 5/10 is average.. and you're no where near average

u look like a male eyebrows if he was a girl
wtf

>>6945778
Drop the "i'm a _____ person" shit.You need to wear fitting clothing. dickies are bum-core because they're straight legged and make you look like a retiring dad with your boxed out fit. Get some tapered jeans and some plain button ups. Also, get some better glasses. Drop some dosh for something off of Mr Porter. You deserve it.

It's possible to be ugly and /fa/. It's also possible to use aesthetics into tricking people into thinking you're attractive.

Case in point, pic related. You sort of remind me of a chubby Daniel Craig who refuses to try.

>>6948670
dickies makes slim fit pants they're actually pretty nice. I'd recommend them over levis to the poorfags anyday tbh

jackets are solid too I've had mine since middle school and still holding up

>>6944652
You're just one of those people that look older than they are, in your case (honestly) you look much older than you are but hey you can't change your face unless you pay for surgery which I've seen in the thread that you don't want to do that. Just don't go towards fleeting trends or else you'll look like an old man trying to look young, try to get good fitting basic clothes. Good fitting button down shirts (that are ironed btw) might help you look better. Imo you want to dress fairly smart but plain. Also just experiment with your hair and facial hair to find what suits you best.

>>6944652
you actually look a lot better with glasses, keep it like that d00d, it works, you look a bit like rick moranis

>>6946846
oh so you're actually a racist, yeah naw stop that. conceal it maybe, but saying anything makes your average burd think you're a cunt, so yeah, quit that, or any right wing shit

>>6951250
Yeah I obvz keep that shit to myself..

>>6951149
Thx

>>6950297
Yeah that's the basic gist of it I think. Was gonna go get some clothes today but it's pissing down with rain.