/fa/ - Fashion

>>6798559
dude on the far right is a massive prick

>>6798566
du beats his kid

>>6798566
Do you know him or are you judging?

>>6798612
Do you honestly NOT know who that is?

>>6798612
he's faust from sz
go browse his posts

>>6798594
Homeless meth addicted rednecks

>>6798559
1,3,4 look bad
5 looks bad because he's short
2 is ok, nothing special
>tfw 30000 euros in that pic and most of them look bad

>>6798620
I used to sneak into moms closet to play dress up when I was a kid

>>6798648
short ppl can be such cunts sometimes

>>6798653
ikr

faust is a thirsty manlet

>>6798559
guy in the middle doesn't even know what he's doing. shit outfit and terrible cancer patient face

Guy on left is wearing shoes too big. They prolly give him an inch of height extra.

>>6798559
The sneakers of guy#2 are dbss right?
Loving them

>>6798559
Center dude with the coffee has some interesting stuff going on, the outfit basically a "female" one with a few macho cues, but it's a bit incoherent because none of it really seems to fit him too well. And I like fucked proportions.

And of course the short guy is in a double-breasted trench that hints at Napoleon.

Round brimmed hat guy seems boring but decent; white shoe guy seems like a quiet, kind bitch (bitch in the sense of strength, not weakness); the guy to his right seems like the second least smart (round brim guy takes least) of the group, but the most interesting and probably a good macher.

>>6798566
Using famous people doesn't really work, and using famous people from an era with different social cues than ours really doesn't.

>>6798612
Wooster anyway: he's playing with and updating the early-20th-century athletic look. Tights under shorts hint at pre-safety football uniforms, Letterman-style jacket obviously invokes athletic success. It's a good fit, but it's a bit simple to take apart like that.

>>6798559

That chrome hearts swag

>>6798566
>>6798612
>>6798620
w8

the guy on the FAR right is faust? i always thought the middle was faust

>>6798566
What did faust ever do to you that you resent him so much? Are you jealous because of how much he is revered on SZ and you aren't?

>>6798566
Patrok is mad jeal

>>6798804
>>6798810
go to bed faust

>>6798804
>>6798810
He stopped posting on SZ cause of faust.

Lmao, imagine how sad that must be, getting pushed out of a fashion community because of one guy.

>>6798559
Based on this picture i'd say they're all gonna be railing each other in the ass later tonight

the irony is that twekr is to /fa/ as faust is to sz

>>6798855
How so? I saw faust as a thirsty yet overcompensating manlet BUT posts decent information occasionally and has actually become quite nice now that he's trying to get new people on his site.

Whereas twerk it is just some random namefag who posts here hoping he could be as cool as User.

>>6798824
d-damn... never gonna look at him the same again if this is true.

>>6798559
lel
faust looks like sum random mexican manager
is he or was an accountant irl?

>>6798877
the overcompensating manlet part applies to both

imagine being like 30 but being proportioned like an eleven year old
id an hero tbh thats no way to live

>>6798803
middle is AKA * NYC

>>6798890
he is some russian jewbag so I wouldnt doubt it if some beaners who were trying to get to the USA by crossing the rio grande got caught in a current and got swept off into the ocean and ended up in russia then one of the guy beaners thirsty as fuck cause of the long voyage out to sea found a jew counting her shekels on the shore and banged her and then faust was born 9 mos later.

>>6798824
two dozen people, including all of the top contributors, just up and stopped posting because he banned someone for having a divergent opinion. he also drove off several more posters and banned a talented artisan who worked under harnden and rick owens for the same reason.

>>6798902
what were the opinions?
i'd be very interested to know more about this

>>6798820
damn you were patroklus? shame

>>6798902
yeah that's probably bullshit.

It sure is easy to come on the net and lie.

Only way I'd believe you is if you provided scren caps or names, but I doubt you have those because it never happened.

>>6798906
looks like he was born 8 months later lmfao

>>6798914
uhmmm no its true i read parts of it but a lot was deleted already

>>6798912
i don't remember what the more recent case was about, but the other guy had a low tolerance for bullshit and faust was full of it. faust has also flipped opinions of labels and designers based on them buying ad space in the magazine.

>>6798914
i can't help but think that this is meta, considering that all the relevant posts were deleted, as well as most of the user accounts involved.

>>6798923
uhmmm unless you can't cite a source it's all bullshit.

Why would I ever believe someone if I only have part of the story.

>>6798927
where did they come from

where did they go

the ppl banned i mean

or are they not on forums or w.e now

>cotton eye joe ect ect

>>6798945
most of them knew each other. i have a few on fb and tumblr and still chat with them there. there's talk of a new forum but it's a work in progress and not focused on fashion.

>>6798927
Well that's too bad. If I didn't think you had some sort of vendetta against faust maybe I would have believed you, not that you care whether or not I believe you. I always take shit posted online with a grain salt, that include when I lurk on SZ.

>>6798972
try searching for merz' posts.

>>6798938
why do i give a fuck if you believe me
i know faust is a dick and thats it

>>6799005
why post if you dont care? LOL that backfired on you quite easily.

fuck off

>>6798988
Is this merz?

What happened to him and why?

>>6799027
this might be more effective if you made it less obvious that you're the only person doing it.

>>6799047
top lel

>>6799027
perfection <333

>>6799021
you seem upset

>>6799045
merz is actually a huge player, and has been in a relationship with pretty much every woman who is into obscure nowave music and artisanal fashion, including the ones who posted on stylezeitgeist. the well ran dry, so to speak, so he's moved on. last i heard he was restyling himself in streetgoth and had begun his conquest of rick-cum-givenchy pussy.

>>6799047
funny that the ppl spouting "autism" are the ones reposting pictures of strangers 5 times a day on the internet

>>6799078
>lol no I was trolling all along hurr
that's a surprise

>>6799074
so what does that have to do with faust being a dick?

Did faust ban him cause he was jealous?

>>6799093
homewrecking may have occured.

>>6799074
Did merz fuck MBD?

whats up with this bitch anyway?

Is it true she buys a bunch of clothes cause she will never be a model?

how did he fuck her?

please I gotta know man

>>6799098
haha really he allegedly fucked faust's bitch?

and damn you just reminded me I gotta read up on aeschylus for claass

>>6799087
thats not what i said
oh why do i bother to argue over the internet

>>6799107
>>6799117
a pimp named twerk is not taking further questions at this time.

>>6799127
Fair enough man, I guess that's all the info I can expect from you without making you compromise the privacy of others.

>>6799142
i wish she was my mum

>>6799146
I wish I was this kids dad.

>>6799107
She's like the bz in Tony Takitani, but ugly and has sz nerds thirsting over her

>>6799203
I aint gonna lie this dog faced elf lookin gook got me thirsting too but I cant help but notice how fucked her personality must be because she has nothing but pics of herself EVERYWHERE like she is super narcissistic as fuck to make up for insecurities, dark triad etc.

>>6799203
>not having a Japanese milf fantasy
come on son

>>6799243
don't get it twisted, i be up in dat sideways pussy, but MBD is just ugly haha

why do you guys care about a bunch of people on sz
like honestly

they have problems
why do you have to entrench urslef in them
all faust does is run some rinky dink magazine who gives a fuck about him
twerk it is just a guy
stop obsessing over drama you fucking highschool dream queens

>>6799253
>sideways pussy
nice to see someone else who knows dat joke.

and yeah I think her ugliness is her charm

also I think she is Vietnamese not Jap and I wish she were my like my mistress or someshit that bought me all these cool designer clothes and all I had to do was eat out her omanko first.

>>6799263
because until we get more recruits on this board and actual content and OC start generating, this is all we have to talk about. "meta" as they call it.

>>6799267
that would be the life man

next time i see some 40 year old woman in louis or gucci im gonna try and get her number bru i just want a sugar momma

>>6799263

thanks doge :-^)

>>6798559
are they intentionally standing in order of height or was it an accident?

>>6799276
yeah dude that shit gets me hard thinking about it

being with an older woman

sometimes when I am eating lunch or something at a place I look around and find older women eating.

sometimes I watch them eat and as I see them chewing their food I wonder how many cocks have been in their mouths

and then I think about them kissing other people with those old mouths that sucked all the cocks for the past 4 or so decades that they have been on this eearth

If anyone were to ask me why I dress avant-garde I would tell them because it's the way I express myself or some bullshit

but to be honest my inspiration is from pic related, I want older women to be into me I hope I find a woman like that someday

>>6799263

wow
thanks doge
so prospirity

looks like a group of jews minus the rice nigger.

>>6799263
>rinkydink magazine
How does he pay for his life?

>>6799275
This board will never be that way
The only truly good boards I've seen have been ones where the vast majority of users live close together/are a part of the same scene

>>6799276
I feels it mang
My moms ex fuccboi husband got a milf sugar mamma in SF. If he can do it I can

>>6798559
>being grown ass men
>dressing like that
The fuck?

>>6798620
That guy is faust?

THAT FUCKIN UGLY MANLET WITH A MEDIOCRE FIT IS FAUST?

I can't believe I actually sat down and read some of his stupid rants.

*Fashion is a form of ugliness that makes us change each month*

>>6801622
faust gems general

>>6798824
>Getting ethered on an internet fashion forum
>Leaving to go cry to mummy

>>6798915
8/10 burn

>>6801649
He just described my dream girl!

>>6801463
the rinkydink magazine pays for his life

>>6801708
GUESS IT AIN'T DAT RINKYDINK

>>6799047
#rekt

>>6801760
a rinkydink magazine can pay for one manlets shitty harnden purchases, faglord

its rinkydink af

>>6801760
fuck off faust

>>6799315
>the little girl's section of the tough guy store

I wanna open that boutique.

what bomber is the baldie wearing?

rick?

>>6802335
Uniqlo

>>6802310
Meaning, a boutique actually called "The Little Girl's Section of the Tough Guy Store."

Faust is patently the most important individual in contemporary menswear of the last 10 years.

To understand why you only need to look at where contemporary menswear was located at the beginning of the last decade and what role the internet has played in its ascent.

The 90's (and to a lesser extent the end of the 80's) marked a paradigm shift in designer fashion. This was defined by the rise of heritage luxury brands and the consolidation of designer fashion licenses that followed. Prior to this period you had heritage luxury brands but they essentially catered exclusively to little old ladies and were often staffed and designed by more mature professionals as well. They were also mainly family owned and operated, they were small and for the most part insignificant in the grand scheme of things. The rest of the designer fashion industry was young independents who focused less on luxury and more on design and theatrics.

The shift was that essentially these two sides were combined. The heritage brands began to be bought out and re-managed, they put young designers in the creative director positions and rolled out massive ad campaigns. These heritage brands began to dominate everything, they had the young and innovative designers, they had the quality and luxury, they had the name and prestige. They had it all and didn't stop there. They began to buy up the most successful independent designers to boot and formed the massive luxury conglomerates that we know today. The few independent designers left then found themselves being forced to license out their name and have a third party produce for them in order to compete with the other independents who had sold out and had big backers with deep pockets. At the height of it the idea of an independent high fashion designer was almost extinct, everyone either worked for a heritage luxury brand, was owned by a heritage luxury brand, or was owned by a licensee in order to compete with the other two.

Independent design as we know it pretty much died as more money than ever thought imaginable flowed into the coffers of fashion companies. It was the massive media blitz and creation of these paragons of status that gave way to the fast fashion industry that was originally developed to cash in on the rising significance of designer fashion. With so many eyes on the runways and so many people being duped into believing they absolutely needed whatever the latest multimillion dollar ad campaign was promoting, companies like H&M formed in order to create a quick and cheap alternative. Hermes and Chanel bags existed 40 years ago but no one outside of a handful of high society ladies in Paris knew what they were. Today you'd be pretty hard pressed to find any women in the modern industrialized world who doesn't.

The state of independent design and artisanal works was at it's all time lowest at the beginning of the last decade, it had pretty much been shoved aside by so many dollars, conglomerates, and status symbols. Today it's a booming industry that is actually beginning to challenge the status quo.

So the big question is what prompted this shift and who has behind it? The answer is the internet and people like Faust. Fashion forums, blogs, and sites have long been digital divining rods for what's cool and on the rise. Just as fashion was once defined by a top down system (the rich and elite created the trends and everyone else imitated them) and then a bottom up system (the streets and the impoverished created the trends and the luxury brands imitated them) we have now entered a parallel system where the internet is a democratizing force that removes social and economic status from the equation and puts everyone on an equal level where all individuals (shoppers, trend setters, mega brands) draw from the same well for inspiration.

In this new era the mode and trends are defined by internet curators, everyone's voice is equal on the internet but the people who have the acumen to create the content that holds the most resonance are the peoples whose voices ring the loudest.

Faust and Style Zeitgeist is such a case. No other site has single handedly promoted independent / avant-garde / artisanal design in menswear to such an extent that it's actually changed the industry. I believe that 25 years from now when people study fashion they will look at how the internet changed it and how the internet saved independent design by finally giving it a voice that could reach just as many people as the multibillion multinational conglomerates with their massive ad campaigns and media control.

The exact same thing has happened with music if you don't believe any of this just look over there. Music is the ultimate case study in what the internet can do for independents. To music the internet is the second greatest invention after the gramophone, prior to that recorded music didn't exist and while after it certainly did it was confined to a corporeal form that could be easily dominated by money and power. In the years that followed music was essentially shaped by the channels through which it could be promoted. The internet set independent music free and it did the same thing for independent fashion. The linchpin of all this however has been the content creators and curators their influence is nigh impossible to overstate. Most of the designers discussed on Style Zeitgeist have seen their profits soar and their businesses expand in the years since its inception and the market itself has been widened to such an extent so as to allow countless others to join as well.

>>6802369
>>6802363

Fuck off Faust.

The people who are going to shape and define fashion in the coming years are going to be people who themselves were shaped and defined by sites like Style Zeitgeist either directly or indirectly. The butterfly effect Faust has set in motion by simply existing is colossal.

A friend of mine who used to be a bmx biker once told me a really interesting anecdote. He said how back when he used to bmx bike (15~ years ago) everything was really simple and none of the tricks were particularly crazy, he said at the time though it felt like the sport had plateaued and it wasn't going to get any crazier. The fascinating part is what happened when him and his friends recorded videos and younger kids watched them. The younger kids would watch these videos and think that was the bar. The tricks these guys were doing that were their absolute best, what they thought was good enough to record on video, these kids would see these tricks and think that's the norm. Then they would go on to add upon them and make them even crazier. They'd record videos as well and then the next generation would watch them and the cycle would repeat. Today some of the shit people do on bmx bikes is absolutely insane, but what's even more crazy is to think there's kids out there watching these videos and thinking that's normal, now how do I top it?

I feel the archiving of fashion via the internet and the people who consolidate and curate it onto easily accessible mediums such as Faust are breeding a new strain of designers. There is a rapidly increasing number of people who are looking at sites like Style Zeitgeist and seeing the designers on there (who get little play anywhere else and the attention they do get is almost always a by-product of success on SZ) and being inspired to take it to the next level. This type of archiving, but also the type of discussion you see on SZ during its best moments did not exist 15 years ago. The bar is about to be significantly raised and it's because of people like Faust.

I don't know if he recognizes it himself but his greatest contribution is not to the designers of today who have reaped immense financial rewards from the attention he has brought them but to the designers of tomorrow who are growing up with such a wealth of knowledge and insight that can only herald a new level of independent design.

But yeah he's short and loses his temper easily, fuck him.

>>6798620
NWUHWUAHAUSHAWNWNNBWUAHAHAHAH THAT IS T H E FAUST!?!!??1?!?! SO HE IS COMPENSATING!!!!!!!!!!

>>6798938
most of the posts are gone. i saw it as it was unfolding.. dont give a shit if you believe me or not.

How tall is this faust niggah? 5'3''?

>>6798648
If you think you have any gift at all in critiquing fashion it's due to the dunning-kruger effect.

>>6802383
>>6802381
nice posts

>>6802383
I was under the impression that you were damage controlling for him until the last line

>>6802452
Meh. You don't have to like a person to respect or appreciate him.
See: most of my favorite musicians.

>>6802363
>beginning of the last decade and what role the internet has played in its ascent.
BRB AS I COMPILE ALL THAT DATA AND PROJECT MY SUPERIOR PERSPECTIVE BASED ON MY UNBIASED EXPERIENCES
things exist outside of sz and they've been more relevant.
but holy shit i dont want to argue w/ you.

>>6802519
you got ethered last time

>>6802553
http://fuuka.warosu.org/fa/thread/S6518350#p6521062

>>6802519
>things exist outside of sz and they've been more relevant.

can you please tell me turnleft
i want to know w2c coolllllllllllllllll

i'll even make a joke about devoa

uh

"give her the devoa"

>>6802583
:(

>>6802580
when i typed out "you got ethered last time" i didn't bother to cancel and include

"proud ignornace" along the lines of "do you really have to"

and then you cited fuuka, o my

>>6802580
honestly Anorak seems to be full of shit in this thread
I felt his main point for claiming the strength of YY's and Rei's exclusively Japanese identities was merely by pointing out the more apparently Western influenced identities of designers like Jun Takahashi and Tetsu Nishiyama.

To say that any of YY or CdG isn't brimming with Western influence would be borderline retarded unless they were exclusively producing wafuku.

>>6799263
thanks doge
such fantastic
so wow

>>6801687
best gril

>>6802519

As far as fashion is concerned 4chan and reddit are end points. They produce the least original content and almost everything they discuss revolves around content that was taken from somewhere else. There isn't anything inherently wrong with this because 4chan and reddit have a massive audience, their most important contribution is reaching people in general and delivering content, not producing it (although this dynamic is radically different for other boards some of which are at the forefront of content creation).

Next to 4chan and Reddit you have Tumblr and to a much lesser extent Facebook and Twitter. Most of the content here is taken from somewhere else although there is a small amount that is original. For example I would say the vast majority of tumblr blogs are people taking content from elsewhere but there is a small handful that are people doing something like scanning and uploading old fashion magazines, this is new content that until now has only existed in previously inaccessible formats.

Next to these sites you have forums like Superfuture, Style Zeitgeist, and Styleforum which are producing the most original content. But have a much smaller viewership in relation to all of these other places.

The reality though is that while Style Zeitgeist seems small and insignificant because it has so few posters and readers what you are not realizing is that the content it produces routinely ends up on larger sites (like this very thread) and is then consumed by a significantly larger portion of people.

What I've left out until this point is that there's another layer that is of course real life, which is the largest of all these mediums. People take stuff they see and read on the internet and bring it into reality. This is where what could originally be described as immaterial becomes incredibly tangible:

Faust creates SZ and someone on there posts a fit, that gets re-posted on tumblr, that gets reblogged a bunch of times, then someone in China sees, and shows to their friend who is a design intern, who then mentions it to the designer he is working for who then decides to incorporate something similar into his collection, which is then bought and worn by a very cool local kid who posts it on some Chinese social network, this posting itself is seen by thousands of people who are looking for what is cool and trendy, they see conceptual clothing without labels and decide to eschew their next trip to Louis Vuitton and instead decide to support this local designer mentioned above.

That's an incredibly simplified example, there's often significantly more links in this chain and it is repeated hundreds of times in a single second all across planet Earth. This is what could be described as the effect that the internet is having and how it is playing a significantly larger role in shaping reality.

You don't understand this because you are a fuccboi and likely haven't thought very long or hard about these things or are just simple in general. You see a trite internet forum run by a manlet, I see the future of reality being shaped.

However you have inadvertently become my de facto agent provocateur and as such despite being a moron I do recognize that the role you play is an important one. If not for you who else would goad me to writing these long and intricate replies. Replies that I fully recognize will be consumed and remembered, 4chan itself of course will never recognize this but the individuals who make up the site will. They will walk away from this thread having learnt something. Whether they agree or disagree with me means nothing. This is similar to the irrelevance of ones personal feelings toward Faust.

What you think of him (or anyone for that matter) really doesn't actually mean anything. There's no difference between him and me or me and you. We're all on the same level as fictional characters in a novel, the person writing this post doesn't matter but the person reading it does. That's the person who will take whatever they will from these postings and utilize it to shape reality. It could be a single fact I've long since blown past but as long as they take something away, whatever it is will eventually reach the end goal of somewhere beyond this screen.

That's my favourite part about not just creating posts but creating content and things in general, jacking off to the fact that something I might create will somehow influence someone at the opposite end of the planet. So I will take this moment to thank you, the venerable turnleft for enabling me to continue and also to Faust for getting me started in the first place and introducing me to topics I'm now discussing that I will then introduce to other people who will filter it down and down and down and down.

This is the importance of content creators and curators, thank you for reading.

>>6802794
>You don't understand this because you are a fuccboi and likely haven't thought very long or hard about these things or are just simple in general. You see a trite internet forum run by a manlet, I see the future of reality being shaped.
>However you have inadvertently become my de facto agent provocateur and as such despite being a moron I do recognize that the role you play is an important one. If not for you who else would goad me to writing these long and intricate replies.

why do you hate him so much
this is completely unnecessary and rude

honestly

>You don't understand this because you are a fuccboi and likely haven't thought very long or hard about these things or are just simple in general.

Ding ding ding

>>6802814
Have you ever listened to turn left?

>>6802819
you can't just insert yourself without merit, soz

>>6802335
uniqlo

>>6802363
>>6802369
>>6802375
>>6802381
>>6802383
>>6802792
>>6802794
>>6802796


nuh uh nigga i aint readn all dat

>>6802439
except he's right, go back to bed faust

>>6802676

My most recent posts address this, I feel my opinions are still largely unchanged from a month and a half ago* but that I've come to terms with the reality that opinions don't actually mean anything, what's important is creating a dialogue. By simply invoking the names of those designers and speaking about them passionately I am driving people who haven't heard of them to go google them and maybe one of those people falls in love and becomes totally fascinated and obsessed and one day they grow up to post about them on 4chan and share their opinions on them which are pretty much as follows:

*They're Japanese designers born and raised in Japan, who have lived in Japan for the vast majority of their lives, and who create clothing for the Japanese market which is designed and produced in Japan using Japanese fabrics from Japanese mills and that for some teenage occidental tumblr using idiot to think they're western is totally idiotic, they are likely some of the designers that are most difficult for westerners to understand. They were universally misinterpreted when they first showed in Paris and still are misunderstood by the west to this day. The fact that their clothes do not sell in the west or receive widespread success is more than enough proof for my argument.

But of course none of this matters, all that is important is to create a discourse, I appreciate any ire I may incite and any replies I may receive. Thank you for taking the time to read this and thank you for your replies, you are an important part of creating and promoting the dialogue on independent design.

>>6802792
>least original content
>everything they discuss revolves around content that was taken from somewhere else
isn't this true of all media?
eveerything is referenced in something else - the extent varies ofc. but i don't think sz, sufu or sf produce a lot which is more novel than that of 4chan
the context might be different though
idk, maybe take moma and knoch for example (to say nothing of people on other boards '''diy'''')

fb and twitter are a more social medium - they produce novel content which is again different

this sort of graded approach to 'worth of output' seems sort of frivolous and maybe even asinine. It's not worth thinking about, let alone scaling.

i understand how information moves through the internet however im sure there are other forms of media which throw it equally as far. i think something notable might be how sruli recht's 'forget me knot' sort of blew up through a variety of mediums, it's hard to say it's a exclusively due to the effects of sz.
idk im just sort of knit picking really but these sort of statements are really bold and idk its easy for someone to believe you 100% and then begin touting that sz is the bastion of all good and to follow its doctrine all the time at every intersection after you justify its existance so fluidly. I definitely understand and agree with a lot of your points but i dont think they indicate that through sz faust has been the most important in the last 10 years - that would be to sort of ignore everyone inbetween and credit a single person. unfathomable to me, although maybe accurate?

>>6802794
that sort of chain on effect to such an extent...
'Bill gates invented stuff -->x someone learned -->x faust's dad bought him a computer-->x-->-->-->faust made sz-->-->-->-->someone endevoured on sz and used it as a platform to project their talent-->-->-->thank you faust'?
i think bill gates in this scenario (if not faust's dad) is most significant B)

1/2

>>6802794
2/2
>because you are a fuccboi and likely haven't thought very long or hard about these things or are just simple in general
>become my de facto agent provocateur and as such despite being a moron
it always comes down to this shit
this always gets my giggles rolling - somehow i completely unintentionally rustled your jimmies within like 5words or s/t and it always happens and as soon as i hit that point in your response it completely surprises me since you seem so composed then all of a sduden some hard core ad hominem shit will pop up and ill just fucking kek.

>will walk away from this thread having learnt something
B))))
ironyyyyy~
it's anyone on the internet really - probably more so faust since i guess w/ a powerful position envy comes naturally etc etc etc etc - he's a faggot manlet jew etc etc etc

>>6802796
V_______V
thankubasedfaggorak

>>6802814

Did you even read that post? I don't hate him at all, I said he played an important role in my posting. In fact I will even go so far as to say he's more important than all the people who quote me and just say #rekt. It doesn't actually add anything to the dialogue we're creating (although it does extend it's life span, thank you everyone I appreciate your contribution!) but turnleft being retarded actually does.

Also for what it's worth Anorak V1.0 started off as very polite and cordial and got progressively less so. In my defence I post on other sites and have never stooped to such levels so maybe before you criticize me for turning savage you should take a look at the locale.

>>6802870
i dont use a tumblr
to think anything post-Meiji japan isn't influenced by the west and hasn't sparked interest in western ideas due to it is completely insane and you should take a step back and realise the bigger picture.
YES maybe the administration is what you might call 'japanese based' but the ideas infused and objects produced are very much a mash of v.western and eastern designs.
it's really hard to divorce the two, even more so within YY's and Rei's work but i mean...don't let me change your opinion - or even worse, you might have left learning something B)

>>6802925
u diont know shit why dont u just give up

>>6802904
>before you criticize me for turning savage you should take a look at the locale.

I never stoop down to their level, and I've had an identity on here before. You know the people who shitpost aggressively are mostly highschoolers, right? You're passive-aggresively insulting him and its getting really irritating to watch. Honestly I don't mind when some highschooler or burnout does it but you're both grown men, the internet doesn't just give you OR HIM free reign to act this way.

Just stop, PLEASE.

>>6802929
ppl who write longs posts don't need to samefag tbh

>>6802929
did you really just argue that japanese designers design solely through japanese influences
lol

>>6802794
you sound like an unpleasant person to be around

>>6802975
you're a stupid kid, fuck off

i don't like anorak but you shouldn't even be in here

what anorak's comments on rei & yohji say to me more than anything is "i have read extensively on what other people have to say about these designers, but i have never actually taken it upon myself to look at even a single show in full."

>>6802904
but the majority of our users have made & continue to make posts on this board w/o being fecklessly cruel, or petty (...)

>>6802979
report me, filter me, and sage me if you're concerned

>>6802819
Fuck off. You are absolute shit when it comes to content creation

>>6802925
>i don't use a tumblr

Bullshit. I don't use "a tumblr," either, in the sense I don't have an account. But if you Google *any* fashion related thing that isn't A) the name of a designer or B) a technical term, the first page and half of the first GIS page goes to Tumblr.

If you use the Internet and talk about pretty stuff, you use Tumblr.

And I'm not qualified to compare 4chan to SZ or anything (vibe gets me into forums, probably to my detriment) but comparing Knoch (who's on Tumblr and not 4chan now) to the actual designers who hang out on SZ is ridiculous.

And we talk about Anna Wintour's influence on fashion, not Johannes Gutenberg's or Si Newhouse's. People producing devices of basically inevitable function and even moneyflowers are largely interchangeable. Even the exceptional ones like Si are fundamentally bank accounts distinguished by their indulgence. Editors or the equivalent create the space and tone for other creatives (editors are creatives, too) to do their thing, and that atmosphere determines a lot of what happens. They matter a fuckton.

>>6802870
>they are likely some of the designers that are most difficult for westerners to understand. They were universally misinterpreted when they first showed in Paris and still are misunderstood by the west to this day.

Anorak, could you talk a little about your interpretations of Rei and Yohji?

>>6803044
I don't use tumblr, speak for yourself.

>>6802878

>but i don't think sz, sufu or sf produce a lot which is more novel than that of 4chan

This is the quote I could frame and hang on my wall under a large plaque that reads "why turnleft is retarded".

>this sort of graded approach to 'worth of output' seems sort of frivolous and maybe even asinine. It's not worth thinking about, let alone scaling.

No it's pretty important for anyone that really wants to learn, you learn the most from the internet when you go directly to the source. You could read a summary of how someone makes a model train, or you could check out the page that they are summarising that has all the information in full, or you could check out the youtube video they link at the end of their post that says where they learnt from and find a whole channel full of a master model maker with 500~ views. Or you could sit there and say it's not worth searching and passing judgement on the amount and calibre of content a site produces because none of it matters or something, I don't know, your way of approaching this is ignorant which is why you're an ignorant person.

"there's nothing for me to learn on SZ!"
"and then turnleft was an idiot"

>i think something notable might be how sruli recht's 'forget me knot' sort of blew up through a variety of mediums, it's hard to say it's a exclusively due to the effects of sz.

SZ didn't create that content, Sruli Recht did via Youtube, and it's not hard to say it's success is heavily due to Youtube because that's the site that gave Sruli the medium to share the video in the first place which is what I'm talking about.

>its easy for someone to believe you 100% and then begin touting that sz is the bastion of all good and to follow its doctrine all the time at every intersection after you justify its existence so fluidly.

>>6803033
>This is the quote I could frame and hang on my wall under a large plaque that reads "why turnleft is retarded".

>"and then turnleft was an idiot"

How old are you?

>>6803044
This whole thread:
http://fuuka.warosu.org/fa/thread/S6518350

>>6803025
Have to agree with (the first part of) this post.

I am balancing out the universe, look at how many threads on /fa/ are threads / posts / people saying SZ is retarded and then remaining in the dark like you. Almost everything you know anyway about avant-garde / artisanal menswear is because of SZ being such an immense touchstone. Also for what it's worth I feel SZ's worth is actually waning and I think the most cutting edge people in general are already beginning to enter a state that could be described as post-internet. People are about to start getting sick of the internet and it's already kind of in the death throes anyway because of commercialization and government control. I have no idea what's next but internet forums / blogs / sites / discussion boards could very well become a relic of the 00's. Every day I feel like the internet gets younger and I get older. I would say it might be I'm getting old and the internet will remain forever young but I'm the next generation of designer so if I'm getting sick of it and looking for what's new I have a strong feeling there are other creative people from my generation who are likely experiencing the same feelings the world over. Some of them may even be working on or about to work on what will be after the internet.

>but i dont think they indicate that through sz faust has been the most important in the last 10 years - that would be to sort of ignore everyone inbetween and credit a single person. unfathomable to me, although maybe accurate?

You have to credit someone, my logic is the internet has been the most important thing to independent menswear design in the last 10 years and on the internet the most important site devoted to independent menswear design is Style Zeitgeist and the creator of Style Zeitgeist is Faust.

Ergo he is the most important thing to happen to independent menswear design in the last 10 years.

>that sort of chain on effect to such an extent...

Yeap, computer people are generally more important to society as a whole than fashion people but we're going to focus in on fashion for this conversation so lets stick to that and start the chain with the first person who is directly related to fashion, which in this case would be faust and not his dad or bill gates or whoever.

>it always comes down to this shit

It's because you're stupid, I don't know what else to say.

>>6802925

I don't feel like discussing it, i'll just say the west likes to seriously overvalue their influence on other cultures.

misquoted

>>6803044
>implying Knoch isn't a "designer" who made clothing from scratch

nigga pls, your shitty SZ isn't the high heavens of fashion

it's just the same shit as it is here regurtitated a thousand times over

why do you think half the userbase left SZ to go elsewhere?

>>6803101
>why do you think half the userbase left SZ to go elsewhere?
they left cuz of faust

>>6803107
Yeah, because he's a fucking faggot just like anorak.

>>6803101
knoch is nothing special
ofc he has the face of a god but it has nothing to do with the subject there

he hardly knows anything, he just collects stuff and sews a little (probably his gf doing it)

>>6802963

I'm sorry I've failed you, I was supposed to be /fa/'s symbol of hope, but now I'm just another fallen angel. I really want to become described as /fa/'s most benevolent poster but maybe it's a job better suited for you.

>>6802975

I'm someone who could be described as a detestable person.

>>6803025

Never out read, never out gunned. The competition doesn't have the theory or the practice regardless, so who cares.

>>6803044

Fuck shit your post was really well written and you asked kindly but I'm really burnt out, I might get a coffee and stay up all night but then if I do that I'm going to be utilizing the caffeine for product and not pontification, sorry friend, maybe another day.

>>6803066

Old enough to be flippant.

>>6803124
newfag who hasn't been around when Knoch posted

sewing a little =/= constructing complete clothing

Also nice ad hominem while we're on the subject of nothing to do with the subject.

>>6803133

you might often be a jerk but I always appreciate your contributions to this board m8e

>>6803044
i have never acquired images or information (apart from the sruli red wine one) from tumblr.

>If you use the Internet and talk about pretty stuff, you use Tumblr.
if that is YOUR definition than yes, otherwise no?

user is successful aspiring designer
knoch makes his own clothes and people offer to buy it off him
idk how you define designer but to me it's simply someone who successfuly expresses themselves through a medium self sustainably *sustainability isnt that important - perhaps if we're talking about clothing, then clothing design.

idk youre quoting anna wintour or s/t lmao idk enough about her to say anything but i dont appreciate her in the slightest
idk tbh i dont know what youre saying at all in your last bit

caught between s/t ill flesh out my responses in a second

>>6803133
>
I'm sorry I've failed you, I was supposed to be /fa/'s symbol of hope, but now I'm just another fallen angel. I really want to become described as /fa/'s most benevolent poster but maybe it's a job better suited for you.

I don't even know what to say to this, except
"stop taking yourself so seriously on the internet"

The only reason i'm singling you out is because I don't want to see another person get autism'd by 4chan. I was talking to you without any relation to 4chan or turnleft or /fa/, I was just telling you to calm down.

I can't reply to your next post, I have to go out.

>>6803147

please stop the tinyshit nigger jargon

tbh if you actually bothered typing correctly people wouldn't dislike you so much

just putting that out there, i appreciate the content of your posts and your fits

>>6803139
For most of human history, constructing your own clothing was common. It didn't make you a designer except in the sense sending an e-mail makes you a writer.

This isn't to disrespect Knoch, I love a lot of what he does and it's fucking awesome that he makes his owns clothes, but making a one-off garment and posting it to Tumblr is significantly different than what even a small, independent designer does.

>>6803133
>Fuck shit your post was really well written and you asked kindly but I'm really burnt out, I might get a coffee and stay up all night but then if I do that I'm going to be utilizing the caffeine for product and not pontification, sorry friend, maybe another day.

If the Fuuka link in >>6803063 covers it, no reason to bother.

Thanks.

>>6803139
I was there from the beginning but nice try

>>6803174
:^) if you were, why don't you know anything?

>>6803192
that is such a newfag thing to say hahahaha

>>6803182
I do, you just think you do when you don't

>>6803194
>2013
>still using the term newfag
heh

>>6803146

thanks m8

>>6803162

you're too late i'm already autistic, i had to have my mother talk me out of doing my graduation collection on touhou, have a nice time outside

>>6803169

sort of but not really, that thread was essentially almost entirely me arguing with people and not me actually getting to talk about what i like about those designers, sorry!

>>6803059
it's not important, not in the slightest especially within design intensive fields...
how can you say rei is better than yy or w/e there isnt a graded criteria but your own and how do you even grade so as to subject them a position on your supreme ladder?
who cares tbh, this is truly not worth talking about.

i dont need to grade things to learn them...
its simply a matter of experience, of im interested enough ill throw myself at the experience if not, then im sure its for the best of both parties?

the model train analogy
l o l

>you could sit there and say it's not worth searching and passing judgement on the amount and calibre of content a site produces because none of it matters or something, I don't know, your way of approaching this is ignorant which is why you're an ignorant person
this is exactly what you do lol, do you ever reflect or just mindlessly slam your keyboard and hammer out the kinks in the spelling?

>SZ didn't create that content
i don't think...you get it...
i was comparing forms of media and there significant on the internet and how there are heaps of things which i would argue are mean A LOT more to the circumvention of novel ideas than sz...or 4chan..or w/e but im sure you'll try and argue otherwise and give me another entertaining analogy, so please continue.

>>6803064
none of this post is accurate...
i dont deny sz as a place to cut your teeth on cool ideas and have never i only question the authenticity of some of its user base (by chance those that make up the administration).

>Almost everything you know anyway about avant-garde / artisanal menswear is because of SZ being such an immense touchstone.
the same can be said about you (perhaps to a greater extent), i dont know what point youre make - people on the internet exist within different realms of the internet? yes.

>Every day I feel like the internet gets younger and I get older
one of those full on I AM EUPHORIC AND A KINDERED SOUL etc etc
1/2

anorak pls post more

>>6798612
a friend of mine met him irl in paris he said hes a dick

>>6798902
#drama
shit spill the beans meng who is the guy who worked for harnden and rick? sounds awesome

>>6803064
you reformated your arguement...so you say internet is the most important movement for contemporary menswear in the last 10 years or faust? they are not indicative of one another if that's what you're implying.

>>6803071
you missed the point entirely yet again, it wasn't a critique of credit rather a critique in logic.
anyway your opinion on what 'fashion' is or 'who should be included or shouldn't is completely ridiculous

>It's because you're stupid
good point, i agree.

>>6803071
im not from the west however you can tout whatever you want, maybe you're right, maybe western powers never held japan captive for almost half a century, maybe it was aliens, maybe its some sort of conspiracy, i think your right anorak. thank you for enlightening.

>>6803124
knoch is better than you.

but okay, let's disregard knoch, user for example or maybe even twerk - hell, poet too.
they all have ideas and inspirations and endeavour to make them a reality through different mediums - clothing is one they all share.

>>6803133
>Never out read, never out gunned.
*tips fedora*, *wrangles belt*, *sweep trench coat*. i am a euphoric god and no one is better than me ever.

>utilizing the caffeine for product and not pontification, sorry friend, maybe another day.
wow...
just....wow....

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>>6803232
cant believe i read all of that shit but it was mad interesting

>>6803296
What's mad interesting is you samefagging again anorak

>>6803293
ofc knowh is bettr than me
user is best user on /fa/
twerk is a joke
poet is a joke
u can have interesting ideas / fits but ruin it with yr attitude
u could b a better person also try to type in proper english, i dont bother cuz i stay anon but as a trip u should show example n try to better this board

>>6803303
I'd rather read that gibbled nigger english than the pretend intellectual bullshit that anorak types up

>>6803303
there is no requirement to trip.
twerk and user shit on you

you can be a trip if you have the mental fortitude (read: based narcissist).

>>6803303
I'm a joke? Is it a funny joke?

>>6803147
If you've acquired images off /fa/, you've acquired them off Tumblr. Sorry, but it's true.

And I find it highly unlikely you haven't done it yourself - really, a GIS search has *never* lead you to an image on Tumblr's servers?

>idk how you define designer

To keep up the writing analogy, Knoch would be like a blogger, and a designer would be closer to people doing srs lngfrm prnt stuff. The context is different, the cultural relevance is different, what they're trying to accomplish is different. And there's a difference between the sort of designer we're talking about and someone laboring in the bowels of Zara.

I don't know how I define designer, either. I don't have one that isn't so vague as to be useless; there's a reason general, dictionary definitions are the worst kind of argument besides shouting and violence. In actual thinking practice, we define (think about that word for a minute) things by how they are different and what is important and interesting about them, not because they perform physical acts subsumed under the same term in a particular West Germanic language.

>quoting Anna Wintour

Nope. Didn't quote her. Doesn't matter if you like her; I'm pretty indifferent. But, by virtue of her position, Si Newhouse (the publisher of Vogue, and most of the other great magazines, famous for throwing as much money at editors, writers, and photographers as they ask for)'s money, and by now sheer reputation, she's arguably the most influential person in fashion today. She creates the style, tone, aesthetic, and concerns of Vogue, which creates a huge amount of all that stuff in the fashion world more generally.

Editors do that at any publication; forum administration does it on a website (can you imagine what would happen to 4chan if Moot became an Evangelical Christian tonight?); the owner and bartenders do it at a bar. Someone sets the tone in any space, and that determines what kind of conversations go on there.

>>6803303
>should

Nah I disagree. People /should/ do what the fuck they want. There are no rules to using 4chan.

>>6803321
>really, a GIS search has *never* lead you to an image on Tumblr's servers?
literaly autism
i'm sorry
but come on
are you really gonna argue semantics like that

This is literally my first time on /fa/. I have no fucking clue whats going on, and I have absolutely no experience with fashion. But this is some of the most interesting shit I've ever read. Keep fighting children.

>>6803332
>Keep fighting children.
lol

>>6803321
to knoch be able to blog about the stuff he made he has to make it first, has to design and make it, which in my book makes him a designer, a creator

but who cares, he does his thing

>>6803314
twerk shits on nobody, his basicly a troll
user does

>>6799263

thanks doge

>>6803338
he knows some stuff but he doesn't bother telling people

user is just a dude, i kind of find it weird to compare him to other ppl

he prolly doesn't care

>>6803321
i mentioned sruli recht - that's the only time ive used the tumblr interface to acquire an image and it was for something very specific.

your definition of designer is archaic and i definitely dont want to get caught up defining where an art medium begins and ends (as if i am the least bit qualified).

>we define
you define

soz yeh you didnt quote her i just saw the mention and then what i thought was some random anecdote or s/t relating but you infact discredited her i only read it after i posted.

>arguably the most influential person in fashion today.
im cool w/ your opinions but dont insulted if i dont abide by them pls

tbh reading this is p.cool i dont look into a lot of that sort of 'money'd up god-tier blonde bitch' background but the history of how it came to be is sort of fascinating.

>>6799263
thanks doge

>>6802796
>This is the importance of content creators and curators, thank you for reading.

Yo I read all your posts and that line had such a big impact man where can I learn about this stuff you know?

>>6803326
We're talking about things as sources of content.

Griping about Google as a very bare intermediary is like saying stuff made in Bangladesh garment plantations with some trivial assembly in Italy is "Made in Italy." That's arguing semantics.

>>6803336
Yeah, I can definitely see an argument for him being called a designer; he's certainly a creator. I don't mean what I'm saying to be negative about him at all. Knoch's awesome.

But he's not a "designer" in the sense we're talking about here: he doesn't present collections, doesn't intend for other people to wear his garments, he's doing it inside an entirely different social context than the people we're talking about. That's what matters, most and absolutely the last bit.

Correct me if I'm wrong about any of that, but yeah.

>>6802870

I've just finished reading a book called Japan Fashion Now which is a collection or 3-4 essays written on Japanese Fashion History, the "Revolution", YY and Rei, Japanese Fashion subcultures and mentality, etc and everything you said is pretty much what the book says.

iirc it said something like that it may seem like they are drawing upon western influences, their identities are very much inherently japanese and anything "drawn" from western culture is seen through a very japanese way of view

something like that, i left out a bunch of shit but i think it was something along the lines of that

>>6803250

>who cares tbh, this is truly not worth talking about.

It's all about creating a dialogue, nothing else really matters.

>there are heaps of things which i would argue are mean A LOT more to the circumvention of novel ideas than sz...or 4chan..or w/e

Give me a better example than SZ in the field of independent menswear.

>i only question the authenticity of some of its user base

I don't know what this means and I don't want to know but you're worth less to the dialogue than even the worst shitposter on SZ.

>the same can be said about you

Absolutely, which is why I'm espousing it now. Nothing has shaped me more than the internet and in regards to independent menswear nothing has influenced me more than SZ. The amount of designers and ideas and thoughts it introduced me to is unparalleled. Any onlookers wondering why I know so much, it's because I search out the best sources and then take everything I can from them. The SZ archives are very much one of those sources. Nothing comes close in regards to independent menswear that is avant-garde or artisanal. Obviously I take from everywhere but I've taken the most from that site and I don't even post on it. The place is seriously a gold mine of information and it's not coincidence that turnleft is an idiot and also happens to think the site is worthless.

I'm going to sign off now, I was gone for a month and a half because I was busy, now I'm less busy but who knows what the future holds. I wish I truly was truly euphoric though. Keep the dialogue going friends, I'm going to focus some of my energy and send it out to all of your positive people, so please enjoy the good vibes.

>>6803360
Well, he presents what he made by posting it on tumblr. He also said if somebody is interested he can make the same clothes for others.

Still sounds like a designer to me. But okay I can see where you're coming from. I'd still regard him as a designer of his own stuff even though he doesn't present himself as such.

Let's stop this though, it has nothing to do with Knoch.

>>6803363
>better example than SZ in the field of independent menswear.
i cant tell you a better because i agree that sz is my fabourit (where else am i going to find threads detailing stuff about my hunny sruli?) but from a different perspective...
HypeBeast, SF, sufu, fashionology

>but you're worth less to the dialogue than even the worst shitposter on SZ
thanks 4 the reply big up's 4 comment go hard homi

l8r cun'
the last part was actually p.nice #____#
see, just dont post when your mind is active, as it seems the bit that is asleep when you're tired is the faglord part B)

>>6803350
>your definition of designer is archaic and i definitely dont want to get caught up defining where an art medium begins and ends (as if i am the least bit qualified).

And I'm not trying to either. Talking about what Anorak is talking about - the influence of SZ on the future of fashion - he's talking about people like him, people moving up into what you could make a decent argument for being an archaic context. But it is, again, a particular context, and still an extremely influential one on what people wear. It's the one we talk about the most on this board.

I'm not really following the last bit of your post now, but I said Wintour was *arguably* the most important. I don't know who actually is. I've heard the case made that it's the Première Vision people, a name behind I can't find on a quick Google, or Pantone, whose color forecasting is headed by Leatrice Eiseman and David Shah.

>>6799263

thanks doge :-)

>>6803363

you just inspired me to go read random threads on sz

>>6799263
thanks doge

>>6799263
thanks doge :^)

>>6803364
Seems to be interesting. Could you kindly share this book?

>>6802363
FUCK YEAH

I knew you would come Anorak

>>6802794
Haha, holy shit ! That 2nd guy on the left is chuut

>>6802375
>No other site has single handedly promoted independent / avant-garde / artisanal design in menswear to such an extent that it's actually changed the industry. I believe that 25 years from now when people study fashion they will look at how the internet changed it and how the internet saved independent design by finally giving it a voice that could reach just as many people as the multibillion multinational conglomerates with their massive ad campaigns and media control.

SZ's readership, both as a forum and as a magazine, is infinitesimal compared to the audience that is reached by designers like carol, to speak nothing of carpe diem having its hey day prior to the creation of and wholly independent of sz. ni'm sorry, but you're ill-informed and your viewpoint is pretty myopic.

>>6803421

Really feeling the positive vibes, just for you (and any other positive people out there) have some stuff I can come up with very quickly off the top of my head.

Some great fashion videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV_EuUppi00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usZAzQd5r0I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGj8ro1ttfA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRvbijl03pI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyCdbBiiKyE

https://vimeo.com/sillything/videos

https://vimeo.com/user10670339/videos

https://vimeo.com/thelncc/videos

https://vimeo.com/dianepernetinterviews/videos

https://vimeo.com/antonioli/videos

https://vimeo.com/stoneisland/videos

https://vimeo.com/runwaylove/videos

https://vimeo.com/t3sjelly/videos

https://vimeo.com/acrnm/videos

https://vimeo.com/havenshop/videos

WOAH L@@K AT ALL THAT CONTENT, the first five have been HAND SELECTED BY ME from some of my favourite fashion videos on Youtube (of which most have been taken down!). Following is a handful of Vimeo channels that I feel are worth your attention, Vimeo is a gold mine of content because content creators (fashion designers) prefer it over Youtube because it's tres chic and less pedestrian than Youtube. The downside is no one besides insiders like you and me realize just how much is on there. Please marvel particularly at the Diane Pernet channel which contains some of the only video interviews on the net of many incredible cult designers.

Speaking of interviews, I want you to have this, it's essentially the best fashion related interview I've ever read. I re-read it about once a year and always learn something new:

http://mekas.50mm.jp/en/interviews/229.xhtml#1

That guy is the best fashion critic I have ever come across and almost the entirety of his output is in Japanese. I don't even know why that interview exists in English and why someone would bother translating it. No one has a clue who this guy is outside the fashion cognoscenti because he doesn't write anything in English, but you better believe he's in the front row of almost every relevant independent designer at Paris fashion week. He usually gets his picture taken by the bloggers as well but the comment sections are always full of "what a cool guy I wonder what he does" it's a crime that the 11's get him all to themselves and we're stuck with fat (headed) idiots like Suzy Menkes.

Lastly, take this, it's a bunch of PDF's of two of my favourite designers CAROL CHRISTIAN POELL and GEOFFREY B. SMALL. Two of the most significant independent designers working today:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/4qsdch7ee888l9m/Fashion+PDFs.zip

Hopefully I've left you with some food for thought, SZ is great too, most of what I'm posting here is the best of what I've found on there. Thanks again for all the positivity, really feeling recharged, I have a lot of work to get back to so this was very nice, thank you again I really appreciate it, I hope this stuff sends you some positive vibes.

>>6803520
>Jun Takahashi
>me

>>6803584

Oh you.

>>6799263

thanks doge

>>6803578

wow thanks man you're awesome we need more people like you

>>6803520
are you actually retard

>>6799315

>dressing to pick up women
>not dressing to express yourself

Maximum fuccboi

>>6803578

Wow never realized Vimeo had this much cool content, thanks for sharing

>>6803535

no i have first hand accounts that say otherwise, also carpe lives on in a million different forms, each of which individually is more successful than carpe was as a whole during its heyday. i don't know how you're so myopic that you haven't realized that most of the designers discussed on SZ have doubled their stockists in the last 5 years (with the exception of the few that due to production limitations will never be able to satisfy more than 3-5 stockists due to their own perfectionist nature)

twerk i dont know why we're arguing you know i love you but sometimes i feel like we're from different planets

ok im seriously leaving now, shoot me an email if you want to continue, it's right here if you don't have it any more, sending some positive vibes your way.

>>6803581
Haha I always make private statuses on facebook and post noteworthy links / reminders for myself and I actually had that interview saved from a while ago and read it and really enjoyed it, didn't know if was you who originally posted

They have some other good interviews on that website but looks like it's stopped running for a few years now

>>6803581
wow thanks man you inspire me to share more fashion related oc shit i have so other people can learn too

though faust started stylezeitgeist, he quickly became the element that held back the discussion he often claimed to promote. real substance was with the people who contributed the content that made it worthwhile for others to read and de-lurk, and most of those people had eventually come to either despise faust or take industry jobs/open up their own shops (not mutually-exclusive). today its mostly the place where a really self-conscious, insecure guy sells ad space to desperate shops trying to stay in business, and tells rich chinese kids what to spend their parents' money on.

>>6798669
They are KVA Icarus Sneakers.
Get your shit together.