/fa/ - Fashion

grow a bear

no, honestly you should buzz it.

>>6364345
Grow it really long, straighten it.
Become Fabio.

>>6364367
>4
yes because an egg shaped obviously deformed skull I was ridiculed for hideously for my whole life will just be so sexually attractive with a buzz making it that much MORE obvious. I already look like a creature. Shaved only looks good on niggers.

I can't grow a beard at all btw. They come out as short little curly pubes and end up scratchy short and odd. Also can not grow goatee. Not kidding. It won't connect.

Feel free to show me perky natural females who would fuck if bald and that would prove this and mind would change.

>>6364381
he could be hannibal

>>6364364

>>6364381
Won't work. Hair's too fine for more than medium length. Grief LOL. Fabio. I have nightmares now. Though I wouldn't mind SOME of that musculature. :P

I did try that for about a year or two but apparently it doesn't work all that well.

I really do detest buzzcuts fyii. It's one of hte main reasons I'd never join the military frankly (other than getting gimped/blown up/die for politicians I hate and their monetary interests)

>>6364381
Holy shit he does look like a less masculenie Fabio
>>6364345
Dude stop being a pussy you got a pretty masculine face, lift more then cut, fucking cut you'll look masculine as fuck.Idk about your hair but lose your curent haircut

>>6364385
>look like a creature
You should learn to grow some confidence first.

op just get a short haircut, not quite buzzed but still short

>skinny-fatness so bad even regular working out/high protein barely dents
i doubt you cannot loose fat/gain muscle. you are probably doing something wrong. most likely you need to eat more and lift heavier

>>6364386
>>6364389
I get serial killer too often. Grief and I CAN'T grow a beard - literally can't. (My back is also bare, as is most of my chest, and good portions of my legs) and my facial hair grows to be the equivalent of shorter (and equally prickly/curly) pubes....

I would have grown a beard by now were I capable of it btw.

Try using volumizing shampoos and pomades or waxes to give it more lift. If you cut it down to an inch or so you could spike it more easily

>>6364394
Dude I CAN'T lift more. If anything I overtrained. I actually started getting *weaker* doing the basic stuff. Something is very likely off with my HPTAA (I really need an endocrinology workup anyway) I eat plenty. Have already pushed to the maximum - my maxes actually went downward significantly over the past half year. No idea why.

>>6364398
Don't mind that - just don't want it too short - have no idea how to ask to get styled any photographs of what you have in mind?

>>6364395
confidence comes from getting the cute girl next door off (the one with the nice face and perky tits who could do anyone, and has, but chooses you after it all) in otherwords constantly hearing lower your standards/realistic expectations/inner beauty this and that - will make you have zero esteem in a hurry.

Speaking of eating I have 2 large scoops of protein and some 1% calling my name.

>>6364413
Hair is my bane - I have no idea how to use styling products properly so I always end up stuck having to rewash my hair entirely. Volumizing shampoo is a check. Erm show me what you mean photographically? Spikedwise I mean.

>>6364385
either you're trolling with some random picture or you are extremely bitter and immune to advice
also
>niggers
maybe you deserve the ugly cards you were dealt since you're such a shitty person on the inside

>>6364425
Just bitter. And I asked for photographs so I can go to a stylist and ask.

Also this is 4chan. I'm bitter. I'm not immune to advice. I asked for pictures so I would be able to show a stylist what the hell I am supposed to do. :)

Also the whole reason I'm ugly on the inside is due to nice guy syndrome/out of leagueness

>>6364436
don't care
being shitty is something you have control over
time to man up and stop making excuses for yourself

>>6364425
http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/07/06/pagesix/photos_stories/the_situation%20--300x300.jpg

Under NO circumstances would I EVER wish to look like *this* guy. Though I guess he's genetically gifted by comparison.

>>6364442
>http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/07/06/pagesix/photos_stories/the_situation%20--300x300.jpg
why didn't you just post the image
what is wrong with you

>>6364440
Can be nice for actual behavioral incentive. Can not be nice for niceness' sake because I do not actually feel that way. Thus to follow said soiciocultural expectations without any premise of a return is fallacious. Read about human nature. Machiavelli. Darwin. Maslow, Alderferer. All good starts. I understand ideologically the value of kindness, but what good is it if entirely lacking in sincerity....

>>6364448
dear lord please be a real person this is camedy gold

>>6364448
This is the most autistic post I've ever read on 4chan ahaha

>>6364448
Kill yourself.

OP, you're pathetic. All I get from you is the vibe that says "BOOHOO I can't do this I can't do that."
You're trying to get advice on /fa/ for gods sake. I'm not saying that /fa/ can't be helpful at times, but you need more confidence in yourself. You don't have to get a girl to gain confidence. It's also your fault you let those comments about your looks get to you. You don't sound like a person I would want to be around. Maybe come back once you've gotten yourself together.

>>6364448

>>6364446
I goofed? Forgive me for it being 8 am. PS I hate the goddamn term "man up?. It just makes me rage.

Will someone please post a picture of the short spikey pomeade thing? I mean right now it just sounds like the stereotypical bulldyke hairdo (lots of gel and little spikes) so I'm picturing it and kind of shuddering.

>>6364448
>Human Nature
>Darwin

>>6364467
>to follow said soiciocultural expectations without any premise of a return is fallacious. Read about human nature. Machiavelli. Darwin. Maslow, Alderferer. All good starts. I understand ideologically the value of kindness, but what good is it if entirely lacking in sincerity....
>PS I hate the goddamn term "man up?. It just makes me rage.

/r9k/ pls go

>>6364448

>Bad facial/skull shape/hair genetics,
you look kinda like luke wilson facially

>skinny-fatness so bad even regular working out/high protein barely dents
wrong, work out more, eat less

>wish I could afford cosmetic "surgery"
you'd still be a sad sack, change your attitude dude

get a job
don't be picky about what job it is
just get one
even if it's cleaning or sponge-bathing old people or collecting rubbish

stop basing your self esteem on being 'attractive' and just try to improve yourself as a person

>>6364454
I'm autistic. What a shock.
>>6364440 Says don't be shitty - politically incorrect toward the developmentally disabled.
>>6364450 - yes. Is behavioral theory so hard to puzzle out that you can't understand people are nice for nice things in return? It's why alphas don't care, and betas bash omegas, and omegas are always grumpy and mean
>>6364459 I'll an hero soon enough
>>6364462 I ran into a snag confidence wise - I keep getting feedback which contradicts any positive self-belief. I do get what you're saying though (uptight is never any fun)

is this some sort of next level beta thread

/fit/ is evolving

>>6364480
Just dropping in from /fit/ to laugh at this sad case.

>>6364480

>>6364480

you know, the term "an hero" gets thrown around all too loosly when talking about suicide. in your case, i think you've hit the definition spot on

What is going on

>>6364470
I hate everything in r9k.
>>6364473
Naah.. It wasn't a random picture.
>>6364471
Maybe I want an actual romantic attraction/intimacy instead of just settling and the conflict that comes with that. A long wait is long, and does not improve the quality of the experience.

PS It's not pickiness about the job so don't start. Entry level clerical is hardly being picky especially not with an mba.

I had to look up who Luke Wilson *was*. Apparently he's just a random famous actor. Hah. I guess I could work with it? I can't really find any blogs or such of any females that find him hot though, but it's not an insult.

>>6364468
Really. :)

As for the workout advice, contradictory workout advice gets really confusing.

>>6364519
>Maybe I want an actual romantic attraction/intimacy instead of just settling and the conflict that comes with that. A long wait is long, and does not improve the quality of the experience.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>6364483
Omega. Get it right. Betas are those asshole feminazi sympathizers who love fat girls and inner beauty and only inner beauty and are all about women with hairier arms than they have.
>>6364490
instead of laughing state something constructive like how to get one of those physicians cool with roids and how to use stuff like that without breaking your junk/getting bad acne. Since you will insist I am uber beta who does not try because you have attained your mighty six pack and uber arms without any assistance from a trainer whatsoever and eat six to eight perfectly rationed perfectly clean meals a day....
>>6364495
I would rather like to not an hero yet if that's okay with you. If I have to go out of the world I might as well do it right eh?
>>6364488
You made me laugh but no. Not even. What is he doing anyway.
>>6364492
Don't wear a fedora. The rest was all but true. Thus instead I lost all interest in what were my interests, and now have *NO* interests instead. And why the fuck would anyone wear a fedora? I am an atheist, but would much rather have sex then cuddle. I am definitely NOT a nice guy.

>>6364499
The kind of women that would sleep with a man for just personality would sleep with this guy. Which explains why I find working on my inside useless. I am not a brony, and do not wear a damn fedora. Sorry if I am not a chivalrous gentleman (and hate myself for it) but if I were would have nice guy syndrome anyway. Funny how if you were endowed with such a nice personality you would not troll that individual.
>>6364513
Thread got out of hand, turned to actual troll fest. Fuck it. I just wanted someone to send a picture of the short spikey hair do I was supposed to get ffs.

>>6364345

>>6364524
What does that even mean Velma ;)

The incomprehensibility of abstracts is not on my side.

>>6364533
>>6364519
>>6364480
>>6364448
>>6364418
>>6364385
>>6364345
OP, you just need to clam down and step away from the computer for a while. Honestly, I frequent /jp/ and I haven't see this much autism.

>>6364533
>sorry I'm a chivalrous gentleman
>translated: I'm too beta to be anything else but an autistic "nice guy" so I'll pretend that me being nice is a positive thing and women are just whores for not liking me despite my failures as a human being.

sorry op maybe its time to just check out

>>6364546
>>6364546
>>6364546
>>6364546

>>6364543
I am an asshole, like my father before me.
I do not comprehend the relevance of a human centipede :)

this thread provided lots of laughs thank you OP

>>6364533
>instead of laughing state something constructive like how to get one of those physicians cool with roids and how to use stuff like that without breaking your junk/getting bad acne. Since you will insist I am uber beta who does not try because you have attained your mighty six pack and uber arms without any assistance from a trainer whatsoever and eat six to eight perfectly rationed perfectly clean meals a day....

No, you've been given shitloads of advice and you either exaggerate it to make it sound impossible, or you make excuses and whine about how unlucky you are. The only thing that you need to do to get stronger/bigger/fitter is lift weights and eat food. There aren't any tricks to it.

>The kind of women that would sleep with a man for just personality would sleep with this guy. Which explains why I find working on my inside useless. I am not a brony, and do not wear a damn fedora. Sorry if I am not a chivalrous gentleman (and hate myself for it) but if I were would have nice guy syndrome anyway. Funny how if you were endowed with such a nice personality you would not troll that individual.

The kind of women who would sleep with that guy are desperate idiots or anyone he has sufficient blackmail material on. This whole "chivalry" thing is just a misogynist way of blaming their own lack of social skills on women's independence. Deal with it.

>>6364546
And go where. I live in a small town in the middle of nowhere.
>>6364549 Pic full of contradictions and stupidity from an elitist. Not even going to address it when I have 3 full scoops of a 23 grams of protein and 180 calories per scoop whey protein in that full glass of milk (which still comes out to be over 200 calories just for the milk alone) - for those of you that can't add that is 180x3+200 = 780 calories. In one serving of just a drink.. Not counting anything else eaten that day. Where does mister photoshop get his mad creatine skillz from exactly?

>>6364580
That's... not very many calories at all. Did you count your total daily intake?

>>6364568
Not impossible. Though difficult in some cases. If you think that is all that is going on with me - we can go to the gym together. My spine may be a bit crooked but I doubt it's so bad as to be causing such severe "form" issues as to ruin any and every exercise I try. And trust me I eat like a horse.

Not claiming you are incorrect about the chivalry thing. Actual romance rather than just a whore would be nice though. Hard to romance an ugly chick

Blah. How does "autistic" love itself? Question of century for the lols. I'm so happy to have provided everyone a laugh at my expense, honestly.

Making friends tough when they're all the kind that would be /r9k/ or autism material as you put it. Thus attracting others only of your kind ensures no upward mobility. Have been trying to fight my way out of neckbeard caste for the past decade.

>>6364580

more asshole MORE. go grab a 1200 calorie meal at a diner now that youve consumed your brotein shake

>>6364533
>chivalrous gentleman

This guy is beyond help.

>>6364599
Look, I'll level with you completely. I know where you're coming from. I've been where you are.

There are only three piece of advice I can give you.

1) Stop talking so much.
2) Think of the man you want to be, and then act like him. Even if it's a lie or feels like a lie. Just do it. It'll become habit.
3) Stop thinking you're right. Chances are you're wrong. This is true about everything that you're not extremely experienced in, regardless of how much you've read about it.

>>6364613

this. jesus why cant you just be like every other sociopath and put your "game face" on to lure them back to your house

>>6364593
Okay humor me here: there's no way for me to get that many calories *and* get them clean. My problem is affording ginormous amounts of kcals from *clean* sources. Total calorie counting is something I am bad at. Not a lot to who? 3500 calories over say 1800 (bmr) equals a pound is what I've read. I could be wrong.

I've easily eaten all but an entire box of kashi cereal in one sitting (5 servings worth at 190 cals) along with more than half a bag of pistachios. As far as a calorie diary goes I'm just really bad at that kind of thing. But yes, OP eats a LOT. Speaking of which time to eat more. I am hungry.

>>6364608
Aww old cancer meme. I haven't seen that one in years :D

>>6364345

>>6364616

Define "clean".

>>6364613
Thank you. How do I do this and not have the "fake" fall apart. I have no idea how to act like that man. The father figure in my life was an omega. All other males were alphas that got off on berating me. Thus clueless.
>>6364614
Because I want to actually sleep with them and have a romantic relationship and live my life dick for brains. I also do not understand the literal implications of the metaphor "game face".... is this referring to some sort of PUA stuff?

What's the perfect head shape for shaving bald?

The top of my skull is fucking gigantic and rectangular.

you look like the guy from little britian

>>6364616
Well firstly eating clean is not -imperative- to building muscle.

But, healthy food is really cheap. Eggs, chicken breast, mixed veggies. Just eat it in large amounts.

>>6364640
If it falls apart you just try harder next time... I'm not talking about playing a character, I'm talking about doing the things that you think a good man does, forcing yourself to rethink thoughts that you don't think a good man would think.

I stared and stared and I can't see anything extremely wrong with OP's face. I'd say he's a solid 6+ in terms of facial aesthetics, slightly above average.

Is something wrong with me today or does OP suffer from a low sense of self worth more so than from bad genetics?

>>6364667
Just read the thread.

>>6364624
That whole no white carbs, no bad saturated fats, super anal about stuff bit. It gets really bad when you are on a very tight budget. One has to worry about hydrogenated oil, sodium, white/refined carbs etc. It leaves your food choices- very limited. Basically all chicken/turkey nuts milk tuna etc, and not much else. I'll indulge in a whole package of deli sliced cheddar on occasion though (the real stuff not the ewwie lunch meat kind) because I like it though.

>>6364623
I GET IT ALREADY. Now stop reposting the guy. It's just the choice of actors anyway. I didn't ask to "look like a serial killer" and I have no idea how short 1 inch spikes would look because nobody was assed to post a picture of what they meant.

>>6364655
he kinda does
david walliams is married to lara stone though
which seems crazy to me

>>6364640

its just a colloquialism jesus christ you weren't exaggerating the autism were you.

you don't eat enough. you have a superiority complex. you have no personality.

you know what you need?

>a hobby or two, something creative
>get on a real bulking/lifting program read the /fit/ sticky
>humility

You seem to know some shit about sociology or whatever, since you've namedropped some authors. Do you not understand that being nice for the sake of being nice benefits society as a whole which indirectly benefits you? Being nice makes others feel good, which makes you feel good, which makes everyone feel good. Its how our society is able to function.

Also, confidence doesn't come from banging some chick. You've got your cause and effect mixed up. You need to stop fucking worrying about what other people think of you and start thinking about how you think of you. Then you'll have confidence and girls. This is self-esteem 101 for fuck's sake.

>>6364674

thats diet advice. you need to start eating some goddamn beeferoni and family size pizzas. no wonder you're not gaining weight. unless you're eating literally 20 lbs of the shit you listed a day, you're not getting the calories.

>>6364478
Yeah but Luke Wilson didn't get ahead by being handsome, he got ahead by being the son of an extremely rich executive.

>>6364654
I'm an egghead with a weird face. Try pointing it out more. Black guys look good fully shaved. White males do not. Ever. Really short hair yes. But short of a jarhead the look is never suiting.
>>6364655
I do not look that bad.

>>6364656

The only thing I can't really eat at are the veggies - though I do drink v8 (I gulp it down and try not to gag) 1-2 x daily.

Clarify what thoughts good men might have or not have?

>>6364671
Sorry Anon.

>>6364674
I don't know why you need to eat that clean. I certainly don't and neither does anyone I know unless they're cutting for a competition.

This morning I had three eggs, two rashers of bacon, a slice of cheese, three medium sized mushrooms, and smoothie of fruits/whey/milk. That's not terribly expensive, a good amount of calories, and a lot of protein. It's got a fair bit of salt in it but who cares, drink more water.

>>6364418
>confidence comes from getting the cute girl next door off

No. Confidence comes from NOT getting her, and then realizing it's not the end of the world.

>>6364345

I'm going to give you two pieces of advice anon, and if you follow them to the letter you can change your life.

>The Physical

Pick up Starting Strength 3rd Ed and read the whole thing. Follow the program to the letter. You'll gain weight, you'll know how to work out without hurting yourself, and you'll get stronger.

>The Mental

Pick up "Being and Nothingness" by Jean-Paul Sartre. Its a 700 page, dry as fuck book that you'll need to study. Read the whole thing. Don't read a fucking wikepedia article about it either. Study the book. Do this and you'll know yourself, understand everyone around you, and have a new appreciation for the world.

Bonus Round:

practice smiling with your eyes. by that I mean really focus on making your eyes look bright and happy. Your cold, dead eyes are what makes your face creepy and why people are calling you a serial killer.

>>6364677
I was not exaggeratinng. I mean I worked on it, and get some euphemism, sarcasm, have a solid sense of humor and all that - but yes.

How much is "enough" I already have an obscene grocery bill.

I suck with creative things. Like art or pottery or a musical instrument. I admit I could use an outlet - and not one related to "information technology"

I read your sticky. It wasn't that much help. The night I was browsing they were well....

So you're telling me if everyone thought you were shitty/a perv/disgusting - you'd still think your shit didn't stink - even with no evidence of such? I'm know that's self esteem 101 *logically*
>>6364698 exactly.
>>6364707
I don't want to get fat anymore than I want to be emaciated. It might just be a fear motivator. I had a BIG dish of turkey rice and gravy this morning btw.

>>6364733

you only get fat if you eat that way and don't exercise. if you exercise all that shit turns into shmexy mussles

>>6364710
>Clarify what thoughts good men might have or not have?

Okay, for example: When I was a teenager, I was an elitist dickbag about music. I decided that the sort of person I wanted to be wasn't an elitist dickbag about anything. So, if I caught myself thinking down at someone for liking something mainstream/simple/whatever, I'd mentally kick myself and force myself to realise that there's nothing wrong with people liking what they like. Now, I still listen to shit like Maudlin of the Well, but I know the lyrics to half the songs on the radio, and instead of telling people some pretentious bullshit when they talk to me about The Wombats, I can honestly say that I like their latest song and have a conversation with them.

You can change any thought pattern if you try hard enough.

Holy shit this thread is still happening and is not just a bunch of reaction images

why

>>6364733

everyone sucks at creative things when they first start. you're not going to be a rockstar, artist, or poet. find something you like and do it for yourself. you have to try. if you try and fail, try again, or try something else. just do stuff other than shitpost to /fa/.

you have to put down the health and fitness magazine and realise that eating 100% clean is not a way to take in calories if you're trying to get fuel for fitness. all that shit is written for fatfucks who need to alter their diets in order to lose fat.

don't browse fit, jesus, its on the other end of the spectrum as /b/ and just as bad. try this forum: http://www reddit com/r/gainit/

I'm on 4chan, I am a shitty, disgusting perv. The truth is everybody is, in some way or another. Nobody is "pure". You just leave that shit at home and realise its not all you are. It's not like when I leave the house I wear my "I fap to trap threads" shirt. People's shittyness and kinks are a normal part of everybody's life.

>>6364778

its mostly just me i guess, i got bored of making fun of OP so i'm killing time before work and figured maybe i could give this guy advice i mean ive sort of been through his shit before i just didn't post about it on the 4chans

>>6364789
Kinda weird that I'm doing the same thing for the same reason but I'm not you.

>>6364789
>>6364795
It's nice that you all are attempting I guess. Everyone needs a little help and even though this is hilarious, meerly laughing/groaning will not accomplish anything.

>>6364795

nice. are you the pretentious music shitter? i had that same moment of clarity a few years ago.

>mfw i listen to katy perry unironically now


Anyway, OP, all that shit about eating "dirty" and finding hobbies and reading philosophy and sticking to a real workout program and finding confidence from within is good advice. they asked for it, and you got it, those are the necessary steps to "blooming". its hard, uncomfortable, and the results don't happen over night, but you just gotta stick with it. I didn't become what I consider a functioning adult until I was damn near 30 years old.

>>6364723
Try having that happen repeatedly. Watch what happens when you have nobody left attractive enough to actually flirt with/hit on.

>>6364730
Done... downloaded and will incorporate (presumably) everything.

I'll try #2 but I honestly hate philosophy/psychology utterly. As a token of appreciation for the suggestion though I'll read it, all 700 pages. I mean I know myself pretty well....

Bonus round:Is there a particular way to smile I'm missing? I keep looking like grinman/the joker or something. I guess that's why it's a bonus round huh? Is there a training class I can actually take for that kind of thing - I would take it.

I was trying to state this stuff in a way that wouldn't come off as confrontational, as I am bad at that. (to genuine folks not trolls, fuck the trolls man fuck the trolls)

>>6364841

you asked for it*. anyway im off to work. good luck with your bullshit - and try to remember that is just that, its bullshit, and everybody's got it and in that regard nobody is special

>>6364841
Yeah, that was me. My biggest regret in life is not seeing Rise Against live for $50 in 9th grade. Can't even afford what they charge now!

>>6364846
You've got to realise that having a partner doesn't define you, and it isn't required. Do you have friends? They're far more important.

>>6364745
That's just it - I get that guys can be sexually attracted to only inner beauty, or fat girls, or that some people can be romantic for just personality and it's okay - but it's not okay when I suffer because this is superimposed upon me. Crap I wish I COULD be a little pretentious - having some cool points would be kind of fun - but I know, somewhere in me, that such is wrong - and is fake too, asserting superiority via making someone else feel crappy and all yanno?

>>6364778
Don't be a reaction/troll

>>6364779
Its not at first - it's maintaining the attention span without a ritalin to go years on end at doing something you have no motivation to do. Since approval/belonging/etc motivate me doing something that gets a positive return in that sense is motivating. Randomly learning to paint just because I'm supposed to have a hobby and be interested in it .... doesn't compute. And yea feeling lie a sick disgusting perv is bad, looking like a serial killer, feeling like a perv and feeling like that's ALL you are is bad mojo. It would probably help if I weren't especially sexually attracted to cute/the girl next door type.

>>6364789 >>6364795 >>6364803


Thank you for that. Besides - I do TRY to be constructive. I'm literally all out of ideas

>>6364841
I'm not pretetious about music - though if I like a song, I won't a week later because I will have worn it out. Katy Perry is cheesy, but not awful - unlike say shitkicker noise, or modern hip-hop (I can't. I just can't...) but again everyone has preferences. - Party in the USA Y'all - wait that's Miley Cyrus isn't it :P ;)

>>6364841
>41
I really want to be a "functioning" adult. All of the advice is good but nothing seems interesting anymore.... and I don't want to have to take a ritalin to make things "interesting". ... look I'll be honest, my main goal will always be the attractive to me romantic interest. Anything with a guaranteed result of *that* will make me motivated.

>>6364846

ugh okay one more thing: i used to be hella fat. giant fucking man tits, right? i lost a bunch of weight and guess what - gynomasticism! (man tits for life, genetic). all this time i spent "lifting for girls" and it was for nothing because i thought i was still disgusting. eventually it sunk in that what i had accomplished was a huge feat, and felt great about it. i wasn't fit for girls anymore i was fit for myself. once i got that confidence i found a damned attractive lady who doesn't give a shit about my tiny little man boobs and it was happily ever after.

on a different note, i have a hard time with rejection too, but you know that "alpha dudes" hit on everything with a vagina and get rejected constantly - right? its a numbers game. you've just gotta not let the failures keep you down and keep trying. its incredibly hard, but you gotta do what you gotta do to change things. no amount of reading or studying or tips or whatever will really help you here, you just have to go out and continuously fail at meeting women until you meet one. use a fake name, go to bars in a different town, whatever it takes.

moral: you're just not confident enough.

look up "smeyesing" on youtube. im not even kidding, it makes you 10x more approachable when it doesn't look forced or like you're scared or something. id bet money your smile is generally fine and its just your dysmorphia getting you down again.

the philosophy book is more about how the world works from an intellectual standpoint, less about who "you are" really. you might have to look up a lot of shit online to understand it all, but its well worth the effort.


anyway im off to work for real bye now

There's no way a guy like this actually exists. OP is a master rustler.

>>6364872
I do not think the partner defines me. No. However I want someone warm to cuddle, share things and interests with. Unless you have a way to get me a lot of cute friends to do this with - your assessment is moot. At the end of the day said friends are either willingly chaste/asexual, or have someone they *like* doing to actually do. (I have no friends now because everyone was either a neckbeard, or got married and made babies and drifted away). I am aware that to be worthy of "more than just friendship" requires having something to offer (looks/money) and while I have valiantly fought my hardest for both, I am left with neither. TL;DR I just want nice natural round boobs, a cute face, and snuggles -kay? And without somehow being undeserving precisely because I actually want that.

>>6364872
I would still love seeing Rise Against. For a band to have quite a few songs I like is rare. 50$ is a shitload for a band ticket NOW though.

>>6364917

I'm not sure if I should read through this thread or if it'll be a huge waste of time

>>6364939
>huge waste of time
dude you are on 4chan

>>6364939
Do it faggot. Laugh for days.

>>6364893
>That's just it - I get [...]
You sound like you completely lack meaningful human interaction.

>Its not at first - it's maintaining the attention span without a ritalin [...]
Make it a commitment then. I only really managed to stick at bass when I found a band that was willing to carry me until I was good. Participating wasn't a choice, now I'm considered a pretty solid bass player. Join a team sport or something, anything that will force you to make a commitment.

>I'm not pretetious about music [...]
Modern hiphop can be wonderful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVXUtu4a1hE

>I really want to be a "functioning" adult [...]
If you become a person who is self-confident, social, and happy with himself without needing a girlfriend, you'll have your pick of the litter. That's the duality of it. Nobody wants to date someone who's wholly motivated by getting "a relationship". People want to share their life with someone who actually has something to share. This is where "nice guys" fall down; they think having good manners and being courteous is worth sharing. It's not, it's just the basic requirements for social interaction.

Anon, I take Vyvanse every day and feel pretty good about it. It helps me stay focused on the things I like to do and I'm no master at anything, but I can at least finish a project. Jack of All Trades, Master of None, right? Take your Ritilin, its not so bad. Besides, theres tons of college kids who'd be jealous. Getting prescription stims is awesome.

Also, you should probably figure out what nonphysical qualities you want in a girl otherwise maybe just get prostitues. I didn't read the whole thread, but it sounds like you just want a sex doll. Maybe thats why its hard for you to meet girls?

>>6364934
You don't need looks or money. I have a gorgeous girlfriend, my face is a 5/10 at best by conventional standards and I'm a starving artist. What I am, however, is a person who loves himself and was completely happy before entering a relationship. Being happy is attractive. It's probably the most attractive trait anyone can have.

Also last time rise against came here it was almost $200 a ticket, so sad.

I need to head off now as well, but best of luck, man.

My advice from earlier still stands. Sit down, figure out exactly what kind of man you want to be. Write it down if you have to. Not what you want to have, fuck, own or look like. What you want to -be-. And then devote everything to becoming him. You'll make it.

>>6364418
This sounds at least partially like a /fit/ problem. Have you tried asking them?

>>6364908
My whole problem is that anything and everything I can do has zero transactional value to return anything self esteem reinforcing/increasing or otherwise happiness inducing.

My autism struck and I forgot to ask what you do for a living.
>>6364917
I wish. At least then I could write it off as interenet cool points, then go cozy up to a cute /sma/ female. (or former /b/ camwhore). That'd actually be pretty epic. They're cute and we would have enough in common.... :P

>>6365003
If the only kind of happiness you can imagine is from cuddling with a girl, that's probably the first thought pattern you want to work on changing.

Even if you do manage to find someone to cuddle with, you're going to have to tell all sorts of lies to keep it going with that mental state. And it's just going to make you unhappy.

>>6364957
Two word: speed dick. And being a zombie sucks. They can feel up college titties. I can take speed. What the deuce are THEY jealous of. I think I might have just burned out from being over medicated in high school and college. I managed to pass grad school drug free and until the last month of it keep up my workouts but....
>>6364990
Asscracks insist I'm not trying or should roid. Really just came here to ask about a half decent hairstyle and a change of clothes, but some doofus suggested a complete buzz cut and someone else noted how I look like a serial killer and shit just assploded into this. Heh.

>>6364957
I want physical AND nonphysical qualities in a girl and neither are easy to put into word, though I could easily show someone pictures of past love interests and explain what it was I liked about that particular individual... prosies just fuck after all, they also look wrong' When was the last time you saw the cute intelligent sweet girl next door as a hooker?
>>6364962
Since gorgeous is a relative, relatives are relative. I don't know how to love myself though, because I keep hearing myself is bad/wrong from the feedback, but that I'm supposed to love me. But then the jobs that are interested are completely menial and overtaxing, the females that would more than just friends are obese to morbidly obese or are single moms.... and then I feel rotten because I'm "shallow" and shallow is a bad thing...then the whole deal just snowballs.

200$ OWCH *dies*
Safe travels dude.

You just eliminated too much of what I want to be. Excluding smart, everything else on the list of want to be's is eliminated. Basically I would want to be a decent looking, borderline narcissistic, intelligent man, an epic fuck and all around just *enjoy life*.

Feh I guess it's time for more vidya. I have a boatload of emulation to keep busy with until I stop getting rejected for so much as an interview.

>>6365127
Came back after dinner to turn my computer off.

Against my better judgement, shoot me an email on i.am.a.ragdoll@gmail.com if you wanna talk more. You sound like you're trying, but not making the right conclusions.

Later.

>>6365074
IYou're oversimplifying. The matter of the rarity and taboo (not all women are created equal) coupled with the get a whore crap (whores are ugly, stupid, and illegal..... or so expensive and still not my type [cute vs sexy] that you are missing the forest for the trees. Basically that someone to be with is a bright spot in a gloomy day, it doesn't necessarily make all the ills go away, but it's fun, its reassuring, its *NICE* something that any hobby in the world just isn't - but then again no hobby in the world is as pleasing as warm flesh, a beating heart, a cute face laying beside you willingly.... bleh tl;dr I'm dumb.

>>6365149
later. I may practice bland small talk with you instead. I'm really bad at it - it's like a fucking root canal.

i know youve heard all sorts of advice in this thread, but heres one way of looking at things that changed my perception of myself and relationship with others.

getting with a girl is not (and never will be) the end goal. you mentioned all your efforts and motivations come from obtaining a girlfriend.

this is wrong.

you need to make yourself into the person that people want to hang around. you need to pick up activities that you enjoy doing SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU ENJOY THEM. you mentioned some stuff about how everything you do must benefit you with some sort of return or whatever. this view, in my strong opinion, is warped and unjustified. do you want to learn how to kick ass? learn kung fu at a studio. want to cook awesome food for yourself with cheap ingredients? (currently what im doing actually) Buy a cookbook or use the internet for great recipes. Just develop a good arsenal of talents and interests simply because you enjoy the actual practice of that activity, not because you wnjoy the 'return' of that activity. You'll discover that these hobbies and interest WILL have a return in less visible ways. You will seem more interesting, attractive, confident.

In short, become awesome through activities, and the cute friends and girlfriends will come as a side effect of being awesome.

I open /fa/ up and this is the first thread that I see. Neat.

>>6365221
As for martial arts - gyms here charge out the nose for no real apparent reason. Minimum wage to 12$ an hour does NOT go far. Bastards. Maybe they wouldn't just call me lazy and would actually go hey - maybe something's up if I tired out prematurely or something (which does happen)

I already use cookbooks and the interwebs for cooking. I can't do it from memory ever and I don't have many choice dishes because I'm picky (I like lemon pepper and curry chicken myself) but I do. Frankly I like food but heh. I'm never going to be terribly great at it :P

I'm not poorly read or anything (quite the opposite, but I'm very forgetful. This makes me feel dumber than I am - what I really am is *slow* rather than outright untintelligent

I really AM one of those that enjoys the result or return of an activity more than the activity itself. I have no idea how typical people go about just enjoying an activity rather than the result/feedback....

I'm not making an excuse for a different mode of neurological function here mind you - it's genuinely confounding. I spend a lot of time trying to word things well until my emotions get the better of me and I go *boom* Hope I don't sound too argumentative.

>>6365127
>insist I'm not trying
I'm not surprised. Getting big isn't difficult, it's just hard work and a long game. You don't look like you have serious enough development issues to keep you from getting fit.

It's seriously unlikely you're overtraining, btw. Did you do an actual barbell program or just fuck around with the machines? Unfocused training is pretty much useless.

>>6365540
5-10 years is a long enough effort that means I either something is legit physically off. And I've had an unexplainable, and pretty large loss of strength just come out of nowhere and hit me too.

I did have my test measured a while back and it came out obscenely high (I do not roid up though) but for some reason I feel the precise opposite of manly or healthy.... so I'm going back soon enough and hoping that was a fluke. It is entirely possible however my cortisol is too high or my thyroid is off (it runs on my father's side of the family but it' hypo rather than hyperthyroidism) and it would behoove me to get it checked.

I honestly was feeling okay about myself 2ish years ago at 14.3% body fat (3 site skinfold) and around 178ish lbs, but I never could progress. I just got dumb looks when I'd ask one of those gymbrahs for help or referred to like fitness.com and I'm like OI.... ... damn meatheads.

Wear classier clothing than t-shirts. Problem solved.

>>6365659
5-10 years is long enough to get no progress at all if you're not doing it right. There's a reason gyms aren't full of musclemen.

Have you ever done a real squat, for example? Note that the ass goes below the knees. This is important.
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Quadriceps/BBSquat.html

>>6365678
Dude you mean like buttondown shirts right? I have a few but nothing special. I do have a WalMart level budget....

>>6365696
>http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Quadriceps/BBSquat.html
Look let's be blunt - I cant do ONE SINGLE SQUAT without some kind of support. I fall over backwards just having my arms in the bar squat position and trying one. Laugh it up. It happens *every* single time, and I can;t; afford an actual irl trainer to see what the matter is....

My spine *IS* kyphotic by the way. Just so you know.

not reaading thread, just stopping by to say you fucking terrify me, lose the wispy pedophile hair and thousand yard stare

try to stop looking like youre contemplating rape

Oh also, stop thinking so much

it sounds like a tall ask but it's what you have to do

just do stuff

dont ask questions just do whatever it was you wanted to do before you started autisting all over your own ambitions

stop thinking, just be

>>6365801
I have to admit that I've never coached a hunchback. Usually people would fall forward, though. What point do you fall over at?

>>6364345
Gain confidence.
/thread

you look awesome, please stop giving a fuck what you look like. there's more important things going on.

>>6364345

>>6364345
Dr. Hannibal Lecter?

>>6365891
Motor coordination crap. It's from birth (I was born waterbrained, I came out okay but not without a lot of not so readily apparent deficits)

My back isn't too bad, but it is noticeable. (I get told to stand up straight a lot when I am standing as straight as I can)

I hit right where my ass meets my knees (I did this weightless though - it could be worse with a nonguided bar) and my feet both did a 3 steps back number like I was losing my balance and about to fall. I never actually fell but I sure as hell didn't maintain a form either.
You would have laughed hilariously. It's okay *I* laughed hilariously - then I hit my mattress.

Truth be told I could use a social wing/trainer/help too. A lot of this stuff is "subconcious" for everyone else but it's literally absent for me.
>>6365825
Are you trolling or serious? I took that on a high self esteem day too. I wonder what it must be like to have your awesome life....

>>6365873
My ambition was the cute girl next door and a decent low stress, moderate income career. I have no idea what I was thinking....

>>6364386
>>6364543
>>6364623
>>6365954
bahahaha
OP is one evil looking motherfucker

>you will never look like a serial killer like op

>>6365995
p serious

smile, stop combing over your hair, looks rapey, don't stare at people because it's really scary

and my life is pretty decent, little bit worse since you scared me though

>>6366008
>tfw u no write tfw

>>6365995
I tried it out a couple of times. I started to fall backwards when my legs were too close together. Try starting out with as wide a stance as possible and shuffle you legs closer together as it becomes more difficult to go down.

Just join Reddit, you'll be alpha as fuck compared to them

>>6365917
Have you SEEN what I've been compared to? Nobody even thinks of them as human.... apparently I resemble every serial killer/bomber/human eater in existence?

>>6365964 Really? I google reverse image searched that. Thanks. I haven't been repeatedly told eww/weird/ or compared to rapists and serial killers since I was 17. *sigh* Tell me something if groups of people repeatedly profile someone - does it make them feel good if they finally do something violent/radical? Sure seems what you're aiming at.

Also my god his dress tastes are awful. Look I can color coordinate okay? And a twill jacket? REALLY? With a gray tie? UGH. Even I wanna hurl over *that* fashion disaster.
>>6365964 Oh for gods sakes I wish they would have paid ME to play that role. At least I could do something with the money.... like pay to look less like him and more like Ryan Reynolds.

>>6366072
own your weird rapist face

you're not actually ugly, just terrifying

could be worse

get a normal people haircut, avoid dadcore style fits, as that will increase the rapiness

you could live in sudan or be a retard or some shit

you're a white dude with enough money to be on the internet and buy protein powder etc

a terrifying white dude but still, you're pretty much set, get over yourself

>>6366114
>you're not actually ugly, just terrifying

this

>>6366114
>avoid dadcore style fits, as that will increase the rapiness
lol no. wearing normal clothes will make him look like a respectable member of the public

>>6364345
Ryan Beck likes men! Nah, come on bro, come lift and become a Viking with me. LA Fitness. Come on Ryan Beck! Text me.

someone screencap this thread. this shit is hilarious.

>>6366004
Okay you know what? Is there somewhere I can actually market that in a positive way? If I have to endure being evil looking, can I at least have it be sexy or something?
>>6366011
Have no idea how to take a picture. Really, none. In fact proper eye language is miserable for me. It's like everyone else was born with some magic code I'm supposed to consciously think about and still can't imitate, but they can do it naturally. Are you telling me to shave my head - again, be clear you could just be telling me the style/cut are wrong.
>>6366045
K is probably a redditor. B definitely is. K has a gorgeous significantly younger 23 year old intelligent, sexually well versed girl next door who looks great without a drop of makeup and is a geek/nerd as a fiancee. B has a girlfriend going on 2 years, he is over 30, fat, but has great hair and facial genetics and graduated from a tier 4 law school and is under or unemployed - yet dating a cute as fuck 20 year old (for a year) specifically into older males, who is intelligent on a graduate student level and that does not party too much or let her weight get out of control.

semi-related - I wish I weren't born to the most clueless family of jesus worshipping, happy pill popping, simple minded cretins *ever*.

>>6366135
>dadcore
>normal
dunno where you live, but the only people who dress in dadcore here are 40+ men.

>>6366171
idk what you mean by dadcore
some people mean baggy boot cut stonewash jeans and NBs and some people mean nice shirts and dress shoes

>>6366171
I mean wearing button downs, dressy shoes and harringtons and shit all the time

looks good on models, makes normal people look like they've got some kind of mild progeria of the mind

just wear well fitting jeans, some nice understated sneakers and well fitting tees

own your rapey face, and no, I don't mean a buzzcut, I just mean normal human people hair, get the sides shaved down and a trim on top, stop with the combover effect you have going on

as i said, you are scary, you are not ugly

people have worse problems by far, your's really isn't all that bad

oh and as far as the eye language thing goes, you may want to get your eyebrows tinted to a colour that matches your hair, it will really help you look expressive

you can do it yourself or get it done for like a tenner

but yeah, what kind of clothes do yu normally wear?

>>6366114>>6366122
How does one make being terrifying a good thing. Excluding that whole goth crap... (bleh) - also fear that the terrifying thing ruins job opps. there is a known connection between appearance and career viability
>>6366135
I googled dadcore. You'd have to pay me. Admittedly I like a nice suit though I only have two, and they need to be cleaned, a straight gray and a straight black, with some solid color shirts to match both. I have NO idea why a tshirt and jeans is considered entirely faux pas however. I really did not realize this was a giant faux pas.
>>6366150
Is this an old meme/obvious troll or is Ryan Beck someone I should know of?
>>6366156
I'm so glad you think this is comedy gold. I haven't been able to get a date (that wasn't from someone who made me want to vom at first sight) or a gainful job (ie not dead end) and your humor is just oh so delightful. You know I originally came just to ask what hairstyle to get and what clothes to get and a bunch of /fit/izens were all do you even lift brah and such, and then others were all ohemgee you look like hannibal lector/serial killer name here. NOT ONE person posted a picture of a suit, or a hairstyle... I mean shit.... nobody.

>>6366262
>I have NO idea why a tshirt and jeans is considered entirely faux pas however.
I never said that. But that other anon is saying that wearing a button down means you have "progeria of the mind", which is just retarded. (btw dadcore doesn't really have a definition)

>You know I originally came just to ask what hairstyle to get and what clothes to get
I haven't read the thread, but you only ask for help after writing a paragraph of bullshit, almost as an after though. So obviously people will focus on the emotional bullshit.

>NOT ONE person posted a picture of a suit
Well, here you go I guess.

You're not particularly attractive, but you're not particularly ugly either. You have a general Scandinavian appearance with wider than average cheekbones and no other features that seem to stand out as good or bad. Try growing a beard. Other than that stop worrying, no one is looking at you and thinking to themselves how unattractive you are, and there will be females who find you attractive.

Work on the social/autism aspect if you actually have autism - that is much more likely to hinder you than your appearance.

get a beard , and buzz your hair.
also work out.
and lurk a while.
in half a year you'll look allright

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acromegaly

>>6366206
Dude IDK what harrinngtons even are. And yeah who the deuce wants to wear work clothes 24/7? That just seems... uncomfy. I have a few decent fitting pairs of jeans, athletic shoes (I always wear cross trainers or running shoes) and decently fitted tees.

Nobody has ever mentioned dying my eyebrows before, so thanks. Maybe I wouldn't burn them off. I plan on getting my hair done again (that's an older pic) real soon, so I'll just ask them to do my eyebrows too. I just looked in the mirror and they seem to match (or maybe be too light depending) for my hair right now, but again I really can't tell.

Usually? I actually try to look decent when I go out. I'll have a nice vneck or printed tee and some jeans and some sneakers. I have a couple of geeky related tees too (megaman/nintendo addict club, atari) as well as retro soda (dr pepper) that I rarely wear now. I save button downs for nicer occasions. So mostly a tshirt jeans and sneakers. I mean mind you if its especially snazzy I'll wear a buttondown and jeans instead, though nothing formal unless the occasion merits it.

My intention wasn't to be a troll at all, I had no idea some of this crap would get so out of hand. Also how does one make terrifying - a positive? It wouldn't be so bad to "own it" if there were actually a way that wasn't - play a serial killer on tv for the rest of your life.... simply put - terrifying is never sexy.

>>6366289
LOL well you knew what I meant man.
I guess he looks sharp. I do not have any idea.
>>6366290

I CAN'T grow a beard. Like at all. My father's a hairy ape and I grow permanent pubes that grow no longer than my pinky and don't connect to each other. I'm bare backed and barely have chest hair. Mind you I hate body hair so this is a good thing but...the beard thing is NOT in my cards.

I can't seem to find anyone to work with me on the social aspect - unfortunately. At least not to any meaningful end. That I am sexually invisible is a *problem* not a particular positive.

>>6366302
If one more person tells me to *grow a beard*.... you don't *choose* to grow a beard if you don't have the facial hair structure to do it. I get a five o clock shadow daily - but I never grow full beard hair. Also I do work out - for some reason there is this implication that I am somehow "doin it wrong" as if everyone in /fit/ has six pack abs by the end of a year. (They don't).
Do you mean buzzcut like http://coolmenshair.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Zac-efron-short-buzz-cut-hair.jpg (sorry don't feel like image insertion) because I'd do it but not - http://manlycurls.com/blog_new/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/hairstyle-high-tight-recon-223x300.jpg (ick)

>>6366317 You are a grade A troll. I do not have acromegaly. If I had *any* remotely related symptom to this it would be different.
Though I'm getting a full endocrine workup soon enough anyway. Having a 1020 total testosterone made the nurse ask if I was taking steroids (I wasn't) and then proceed to tell me to get an endocrinologist. Seriously.

I may have gotten some replies botched. Sorry :x

>>6366365
A lot of scandinavian men tow the line between scary and manly, which is kinda what you need to do. You need to look more masculine, a more masculine haircut would really help. Thats another reason I say you should tint your eyebrows a little darker, it'll help you convey emotion more easily, make you more expressive, and it will make you seem more masculine. Just make sure to pick a shade that looks natural with your complexion.

think of many prototypical handsome, maculine actors like sean bean, that guy who plays the manly guy in LOTR etc. Now imagine they have transparent eyebrows and your haircut. They look scary.

You can Try a werhmart look

>>6366481
Okay so a "buzz cut" and dye my eyebrows *darker* . Someone DID say dye them - they did not say darken them, they said lighten them. They probably DO need to be darkened. The damn things are too light.

I wish I knew how to toe that line. As for the haircut is the poster talking about a wehrmart below referring to a hairstyle?
Was the Effron cut a good example? I'm trying to figure out what you mean - so I can bring it to a stylist obviously. - And I may go *dark* this time, natural black, same with my lashes.

>>6366489
I googled this twice - screw you google. I presume that's some sort of German word but I have no idea what you mean. Elaborate?

>>6366529
nah that was me and I meant darker the whole time

and not a buzz cut, a back and sides. Just a normal, manly haircut that still can be stylish

I can't tell you how to fix your behaviour, but I can try help you fix how you look. With a proper haircut, (seriously, look up hitler youth, and get a less severe version of it), get the eyebrows a couple of shades darker and you will look considerably better

also, by progeria of the mind I meant that theres some people in their early twenties who decide that now they're an adult they have to look 'proper' and deck themselves out in loafers, harringtons, slacks and button downs every day, which looks ridiculous when everybody around you is wearing skinnies and sneakers

>>6366529
also, he meant wermacht, it was the german army

>>6366559
Ah. Gotcha. I think I'll just go "black" for my eyebrows and my hair. - okay I'm having a BITCH of a time trying to find an image that's ...well not a skinhead/weird looking.

And yeah just give me jeans and sneakers. Being a size fourteen shoewise, I hate shoes as it is, dress shoes would drive me nutso.

Picture relevent: It's Ralph Fiennes:
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/forum/topics/4000/4103_1289740313335_full.jpg

>>6366586
Ahh it was Wermacht. I was effing wondering there. :P

>>6366072
People also compared you to Fabio. You don't have an ugly face, it's just very masculine so when people are casting killers they look for that.
And of course you aren't smiling , practice that.
Everyone can work on LOOKING happier.

>>6366624
Nonono, keep your hair the same colour, just get the eyebrows a couple of shades darker brown

>>6366624
Are there really white people who WANT black hair?
Why?

grow a beard or at least heavy stubble. it should balance you out a bit. consider a buzzcut.

>>6366640
Oh wow I actually laugh/for legit smile and can't put it on camera.

Heh. They did huh? Anyway I AM overgrown hairwise and way past due for a cut, so this IS relevant info. I need a way of showing that haircut that doesn't come attached to a nazi uniform :P

As for looking happier - smeysing is confusing the hell out of me. Youtube isn't being much help in this regard.

I've been working for years on all this shit - but counselors are *ZERO* help at all. Maybe it's just something you need irl people (that aren't hideous themselves) to walk around and help you with..... PUAs however are garbage, and charge thousands for shit.

Oh and thanks man :) - still trying to find a picture of haircut that isn't somehow nazi related - I already live in the South - that would NOT go over well. :D

>>6366755
The hitler youth is ubquitious, although we call it the hitler youth, its really just an undercut, tonnes of people have it, nobody is going to associate it with nazism.

Only time anyone ever made the connection between my haircut and nazis was on halloween, and I was dressed as hitler

>>6366656
Gotcha. Eyebrows a couple of shades darker, hair same color, actually my hair's darker now (the treatment has faded obviously)

>>6366676
Ugh it's not a lack of desire to grow a beard or heavy stubble -it's a literal inability. I'm not really sure rogaine works on your face....

As for the buzzcut - do you have a specific example of what you mean? Earlier guy said hitler youth but less radical - which I've been trying to google now for an hour.

>>6366913
basically shave the sides and back down to a 1 or 2, and leave a few inches of hair on top, google undercut

and rogaine does work for a beard apparently, I saw somebody do a log of it, but since it works on a hormonal level you should stay away from that

>>6366921

>>6366929
longer undercuts

OP, I think you're a pretty attractive looking dude. You look like a classic Dutch Aryan. I think you're being hard on yourself.

As for your body, I'm sure than can be modified with enough motivation.

>>6366921
Probably so. I can't grow a beard normally at all. I got afflicted with "pedo stache" (I tried before) and *cringe*

I really wouldn't mind trying the whole Aleksander Skarsgard thing.... kinda anyway, I can't get the stubble right, and I have a feeling that it's only sexy on HIM because of abs and fame. But I THINK that is what you mean.

>>6364345
...Oh god bro, bro...I'm so sorry bro...

>>6366929
>>6366933
I'm being a bit harsh.
Kind of. But my history with women/jobs/life tends to help the harshness along.

Those images help by the way. I looked on google mind you but I got a ton of stuff that was also kinda useless.

>>6367005
*sprays shrek-away* oh wait that's an ogre - but you get the gist. I don't have a sarcasm through the internet meter - so I can't tell if you're genuinely sorry (and just feel bad because I'm really that awful) OR a total and complete sarcastic twat - in which case - go away.

>>6367052
Well you're going to sort your look out now, and things are going to get better. Don't dwell on shit thats already happened, it's already happened, it's over.

>>6367088
>youre post puberty

>>6366469
your face is gigantic and has weird prominences
i would say potential acromegaly, however im an anon on a fashion related japanese anime forum
testost levels in males are also a product of growth hormone (which induces acro.)
high testost = potential high growth hormone = potential acro.
steroids are also packed w/ growth hormones.
mfw, she probably also thought you had acro.

>>6367088
Steroids aren't packed with GH, GH is a different drug entirely, but is often used in conjunction with steroids.

but yeah, test comes from the gonads, gh from the pituitary gland, and theres some interaction between the two, but not like you think

if you have high natural test, you likely have high natural gh production too

>>6367104
umm

you just..
denied me but supported me?
whats your point?
>Steroids aren't packed with GH, GH is a different drug entirely, but is often used in conjunction with steroids.
>if you have high natural test, you likely have high natural gh production too
im not interested in your tortora regurgitation

>>6364345
You did not try working out you skinny piece of shit. You look like a fucking twin. Barbells are thicker than you.
Do a good, full body work out for one to two months then switch to a split. 5x5, setsxreps. Eat over 100 grams of protein a day. You'll make it if you quit being a bitchy faggot

>>6367128
You were wrong, but vaguely right.

Basically
>testost levels in males are also a product of growth hormone (which induces acro.)

No.

>steroids are also packed w/ growth hormones.

No.

>high testost = potential high growth hormone = potential acro.

Yes, to some degree. They work independently of one another, but if one hormone producing gland is overproducing naturally, it's somewhat likely the other will too

That help at all?

Dude.
You'd do perfectly as an actress!
No joke.

Are you by any chance scandinavian?

>>6367088
>>6367091
Dear Acro troll: pituitary adenomas REDUCE testosterone. Though you are just an anon on a fashion related japanese anime forum. Acro is related to a pituitary adenoma. Also I find it strange, wouldn't my eyes hurt, or I'd get a weird gap in my teeth, or tongue symptoms, or carpal tunnel, or something?

What do steroids have to do with anything - I already said I DIDN'T want to deal with that crap as it's dangerous.

>>6367070
Been trying to do THAT for years. I still have things I want and hope I can get in time to enjoy them.

>>6367151
sounds like you might be a candidate for antidepressants or some anti anxiety medication?

>>6367104
>>6367128
No they didn't deny you. You clearly have no knowledge of what steroids are, or the wide variety of functions they play. They are not just for "roiding" up. Hydrocortisone anyone? Or Cortisol? Or Aldersterone?

>>6367132
Yes I did. And did so regularly. Go back to /fit/. Really you are the reason I wouldn't go near there. PS I ate 100 in ONE SERVING. Apparently you don't realize I'm already a carnivore. Now Milk + 3 scoops of whey protein at 23 grams a scoop. I hear milk is high in protein too, oh but what would I know? It wasnt the grams listed on the jug, honest I must be lying because I'm a "twig"

I'm a hundred and eighty pounds by the way. And did full body 4 times a week at exactly the setsxreps you just described. Would you like to watch me try again as you sit here bashing me? I thought not - so if you are not specifically watching someone - don't bash them. You don't know. Guys like you are the reason I can't go NEAR an actual person irl.... you laugh at attempts then say LOL DWEEB WE CAN LIFT HEAVY YOU CAN'T EAT MORE PROTEIN 111.... and it is god awfully obnoxious.

>>6367144
Thank you. Someone can't read.

>>6367145
I'm male, since you made a typo and were completely not being a troll, and have no scandanavian roots whatsoever. My mother's side of the family is Acadian... Father's side is a bunch of mutts.... likely "Saxon" or "Welsh" in origins (nobody truly knows the etymology of the surname)

>>6367144
fairly certain a lot of the pathways are ubiquotus

i actually dont know shit about steroids as a drug aside from them inducing muscle growth...
which is what testero aids to induce...?

i.e if
>high testost = potential high growth hormone = potential acro.
is correct then everything else should be.
>testost levels in males are also a product of growth hormone (which induces acro.)
in retro, yes wrong maybe if i changed the 'are also' to 'can also be associated w/ high growth hormone'

if not, then correct it pls.

>>6367151
>pituitary adenoma
you can take supplment post puberty that stimulate and induce acro.
i dont think so, however im not a acromegalic so idk

OP you are so ugly try joining the circus or being a ride attendant at the fair so people can laught at and enjoy your ugliness instead of being repulsed by it

>>6367158
They make you fat, make you older, make you sick and sleep all the time, and make you less masculine. I can think of no positive side effects garnered from these castration agents. Either you were being genuine (in which case you should look up Dr Peter Breggin amongst others) or you are acro troll. And he can go huff on an exhaust pipe.

>>6367185
haha sorry i didnt guess the specific steroid from the really narrow market of steroids avaliable
gb2 and take ur colagen tablts w/ u

>>6367192
exogenous testosterone basically mimics gonadal test, which does affect things other than muscle growth like it increases red blood cell count, can increase bone density to some degree, but it doesn't have a direct effect on the pituitary gland's production of GH, beyond what incread RBC count and higher blood pressure etc could do anyways

and yeah, you'd be somewhat correct if you said it that way

>>6367203
>They make you fat, make you older, make you sick and sleep all the time, and make you less masculine

Bruh I've been on lexapro for nigh on 3 years and I'm doing fine

no #flex as this is /fa/ not fit but pic related to both posts I replied to

>>6367192
I'm pretty sure every neurology and endorinology student on the PLANET is dying of laughter right now. Seriously...

And yeah I'm surely taking a supplement post puberty stimulating GH and inducing acro.

>>6367194
This is really fun for you isn't it acrotroll?

>>6367203
Have you tried various other drugs?
MDMA and cocaine are great confidence boosters and you can get them online now if you don't know a dealer.

>>6367230
I don't get it.
When people started saying you weren't ugly and were above average you bitched about how it was impossible for you to look good and how everyone judged you for looking bad.
When people agree with you you call them trolls.
How did you expect people to respond.

>>6367230
>they wouldnt be dead from you trying to disguise your acro
m8 it ain worth it B)

>>6367224
thx b

>>6367224
You're a troll. You're on Lexapro WITHOUT being on roids like I'm next in line to be pope. Period. SSRI related sexual dysfunction, oh and that's permaent fyi. Does roiding it up to counter the prolactin increase, and DECREASED TESTOSTERONE FROM SSRIS really help you out much there. I mean if I wanted to look 50 at 35 then hey, sounds like the route I'd take....

But sorry no amount of muscle is worth it if I can't enjoy it - none. Or maybe you're just BARELY 18 and haven't noticed the sharp decline/genital anesthesia yet. Consider yourself lucky then. Very lucky. That shit is pure and simple *a neurotoxin*

>>6367267
I'm on lexapro and (sometimes) on steroids

you've read way too much into SSRI's. I've never had problems with sex drive or getting erections, they just make me a little better at dealing with life

I'm 22, been using lexapro for a bit more than 3 years, my genitals are yet to be anesthetised. But thank you for the phrase genital anesthesia. Not even trolling, it's beautiful

Also, I was trying to help, whats with the outburst?

>>6367281
Oh, and donning trip, that was me posting for the last while about GH and SSRI's and whatnot

>>6367252
You make no sense at all. Go back to /fit/ - or gaia for that matter. You MUST be barely 18 or underage b&.

>>6367239
My intention wasn't to be persnickety. I wasn't arguing with most about being fug, I just haven't been able to leverage what I have properly. Whatever that is. I'm apparently on that border of scary-masculine. A really precarious place to be.

>>6367252
Oh yes what - ever. And this is why excluding a funny looking face - I have no physical symptoms. Where did you get your MD? Ronald Mc Donald Clown School?

>>6367224
>no flex
>Doesn't know that abs don't show sub 6% bodyfat
>Doesn't realize he would look a lot fucking better if he was at 6% bodyfat
Good thing it's not /fit/, we'd pick your ass apart.

>>6367376
no #flex as in im not showing off, not that I'm literally not flexing

I don't randomly break out in hashtags

>>6367329
>so upset reposted to the same thing twice
no sweat B)

>>6367281
That is YOU. And you are the lucky one....

I wasn't trying to be a cunt (you may have been trying to be one though)

Wellbutrin can cause seizures/ ballism (1% chance) and has no guarantee whatsoever of being good for sex like Dr Drew was caught lying about.

Dopamine agonists tend to be pretty nasty too. I'd try Cabo but what's the point of a substance so harsh (as either) if it's just going to wrinkle me faster/break my junk more?

And it's not like insurance treats "cosmetic medicine" so hey, any acne, weight gain, weight loss, roids, genital anesthesia, hair loss etc, tooth decay/staining, well those are just "acceptable losses" for the sake of "sanity"

Sanity before vanity right? Again - YOU- are lucky. I had personal experience with so called "medicines" - I felt no better than I do now (in fact all I could do was sleep/be sleepy/eat like a pig/be too weak to lift even the bar) and was never happy, I just seemed incredibly drugged.

>>6367435
I was being nice? I was suicidal for no good reason, kept having anxiety attacks and got fired from the job I was then at, and after trying a few different treatments, found that lexapro worked for me. Now I'm happy and my life is good.

But yeah, I was genuinely trying to help, I've spent about an hour in this thread talking to you about haircuts and shit, but forreal, I want you to be alone now. I don't want there to be any more of you in the world than there already is.

have fun with the autism or whatever

>>6367376
because you're all rejects from bodybuilders dot com or whatever.

He admitted to roiding. Blataantly. Give it up.

I would never want to be below ~10ish % with my genetics and facial structure - I'd look more emaciated than Lance Armstrong.... go hit your weight bench or say something non trolly.

Stop being trolls. Unless you have a specific physician I can visit who well ... deals with stuff. Shove it. There's a reason I don't go there. I'm sick of hearing I'm lazy because I can't somehow lift enough to satisfy you absolute meatheads. You never do just try showing up in a gym and go oh well do it like this, okay I see whats going on your "motor coordination" is off... hmm. Naah we have to pay you a ton of money for that - and then you still scream LAZY THIS PISSANT THAT....

If I wanted military style abuse, I would have just enlisted.

>>6367230
What is acro?

>>6367544
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acromegaly
>op

>>6364745
Are you me?

>>6367489
I thought you were being genuinely nice. I did take the haircut suggestion (saved pictures anyone?) If you don't want more of me in the world - then laugh it up. You get your wish. But frankly that IS depressing.

My early life is rougher than I'm going to mention here - but let's just say any so called "depression" was extremely warranted. That and I really wish I had someone like you to actually go to a gym with me instead of yuck if up. IF you saw what was going on....

I still think you're trolling with the acro bit though. You have to be.

>>6367552
He insists I have this and I have no idea how without fitting any of the actual symptoms. Any of them. I have a weird face. That's it.

>>6367560
I was the person saying that turnleft was wrong about the acromealgy

you have added some caveat to your replies to me at least three times now (Thanks, unless you're being cunt in which case fuck you blahblah)

You're real problem is being a cunt. Seriously. Read over this thread and look at your replies to people.

Also, you are not a special snowflake, your depression is not unique. You don't get a free pass through life because you had a hard childhood.

>>6367587
Oh. Well I got real confused. Yes I tend to be defensive.

I wasn't trying to be a jerk. I get it. I'm not a special snowflake blah blah blah. But I also get that it's my life, and I'm in tough straits - and that I may necessarily wish to know/experience some things/feel legit good about myself in the morning.

I didn't mean to come off as a cunt to YOU or anyone who DIDN'T deserve it and I apologize by the way.

It's *not* depression. At least not in the way you're thinking it is.....

sorry to bring this back from the grave but this was one hilarious faggot

spike your hair into a faux hawk.

You're actually attractive OP. You have nicely defined chin, round-ish jaw, a nice nose, etc etc. It's all about confidence, really. Focus more on being happy, the beauty comes later.

>>6367589
You don't have this disease OP.

>>6369191
>You're actually attractive OP. You have nicely defined chin, round-ish jaw, a nice nose, etc etc. It's all about confidence, really. Focus more on being happy, the beauty comes later.
This guy is right. Of course you are not model-tier, but you don't look particularly ugly. Not at all. The only problem you have is that serial killer look you have, which probably is because:

You don't smile
You look in bad shape
You look sad
Your clothing probably reflects your low self-esteem

What I found is, that people either love stereotypes (nigger who obsesses over melons and KFC) and non-conforming stereotypes (6"5' body builder, loves children, very emotional and absolute sweetheart).

Of course I'm not saying you should become a children-loving body builder, but I think a non-conforming stereotype is the perfect solution for you.

Go for that serial-killer vibe, own it, that's your role. But on the inside you have to improve your personality, become extroverted, become friendly, become humorous and in the end learn to love yourself.

When people talk to you, they have to immediately notice you are not a serial killer at all, even though you look like that. People love to speak to the serial killer, who is actually likable.

tl;dr: Go for the serial killer vibe, get fit, get confident and people will like you

>>6369141
Fuck you trollop.
>>6369191
If it's still okay for professional stuff - sure. I was gonna go ahead and go with an undercut actually. :)
>>6369293
Nobody here has that disease.
>>6369293
I would not mind moving up to model tier. I however have to DIY and /fit/ are very well... the reason I seem frail has nothing to do with time/effort put into the gym, which is what annoys the piss out of me. I lose muscle *thinking* about rest, but it takes years to put on a sold lb or 2 of it. I weightlifted for years but always felt out of place/sad/ashamed because I never could do what those big brofits were always doing - and I know roids aren't worth it.

I smile normally when happy/around someone I'm familiar with. I'm hopeless taking a picture though (I actually hate them)

How do I own the serial killer thing though? Any suggestions?

Kind of a group photo. I can not take pictures well. I don't think I look bad, but I know something is off. I do not know what however.

I'm a born intro (IxTP) (this is a personality profile: https://whoami.visualdna.com/?c=us#feedback/bf24df99-53d6-4edc-8b4c-a0e096cf38e0)) for a little insight into "me" I guess.