/fa/ - Fashion

Hi Montrose. Oh god I want pic related

the one you posted

>>5974385
I want a regular sleeved jacket before I get a Cassidy, the Gibson seems a bit boxy for my tastes.

>>5974494
That's not Gibson it's the undercover jacket everyone is hyping this month.

>>5974379
A tailored schott perfecto

>>5974498
Oh wow, you're right, I never noticed the shoulder detailing. Cassidy is pretty much this jacket without them.

>>5974519
I just...I don't like schott. The shoulders are really thick.

>>5974498
>this month

Anyway get a toj op

>>5974498
>undercover
>hype
>this month

>>5974658
Aren't they kind of sketchy? Quality wise I mean.

If they're not then yeah, I would love the minimalist rider in black or olive.

>>5974658
>>5974672
>implying anyone on /fa/ knew about undercover prior with the exception of ct

You could probably get one made to your liking for that budget

>>5974725
please stop, anyone with a sense of streetwear knows about undecoverism

>>5974725
Are you kidding? We've discussed undercover for years.

>>5974379
protip you can tell fake eames chairs with a glance

real eames chairs have threaded rubber bushings glued to the underside of the chair in a

"narrow mount" configuration so the bases are swappable

the only exception is holes drilled through the fiberglass (vintage/real) or plastic (herman miller/vitra licensed reproduction of real eames) or modernica (fake eames on old real herman miller molds considered more real than herman miller, older ones still had herman miller on the fiberglass) chairs that were upholstered and equipped with the stacking base or H bases

the fake ones from china have the cheap ass plastic mold jet out to accept a wrongly patterned base

all of his furniture is knock off

people like me spend a lot of time and money sourcing real shit

and I legit get pissed off when Korean/Chinese trash like this try to pass off their fakes as real shit.

I make the drive from north county san diego to fucking middle of nowhere palm springs, spend time and money restoring real knoll and herman miller pieces

this chink shit you can get on amazon for the fraction of the price of an authentic chair GLIDE just the GLIDE legit pisses me off

>>5974752
you should call him out on his instagram.com/baichen

doitdoitdoit

>>5974741
>>5974743
You realize everyone on /fa/ just hops on whatever ct/rei/uuuuhhh is pushing? Everyone says they like raf, rick, ann, undercover and MMM because they do and anons don't know any other designers.

Don't fight on this, you should know that most of /fa/ don't actually learn anything about fashion for themselves, it's all repeating what they're told.

>>5974752
Fuck.

Any other tell tale signs? I'm thinking about getting an eames soon and I don't want to get screwed over.

>>5974715
fit wise u can get fucked over

if your confident you can send measurement to charlie and he'll work with what you give him so it fits you, but you'll probably fuck it up.

instead get a stock size (fuck around the length at most), it'll be a lot easier to resell later if you ever want to get rid of it

get it in calf. drew pushes lamb and all his dick riders buy it cause hurrr so soft. but it wears down fast and isn't durable, unless u want a floppy tattered leather jacket then go for it

>>5974767
if the piece they're selling is fiberglass, and it has the herman miller mold in the bottom yet has BLACK or PURE WHITE glides

then it's a modernica replica passed off as real (craigslist likes to do this search LA craigslist and watch there is a guy in w.hollywood selling them)

real glides are milky white

a lot of people change the bases on scholastic layout task chairs and replace them with chrome or black bases

real eames chairs had ZINC plated bases

>>5974760
>you should know that most of /fa/ don't actually learn anything about fashion for themselves, it's all repeating what they're told.

Well, yeah. These are people who are going through the transition between wearing whatever and starting to care, they just want to fit in and join in on board discussions. Irritating perhaps but understandable.

Half of the people discussing any designer will be legitimate enthusiasts who know what's going on, and the other half will always be people looking to learn. This isn't new dude.

>>5974752
b-bbut ricky made fakes.

you sound like a butt hurt faggot, I bet you wouldn't be so mad if it wasn't for your racism bro

>>5974760
If that was the case, no one here would be buying roshes

>>5974774
Do you have any pics of what to look out for?

It's a lot of money to be fucked over on. This pisses me off I didn't even know people tried to pass off knockoffs as genuine when it came to fucking furniture.

>>5974760
Youre missing some names there

>>5974768
You don't have to tell me how shit lamb is, I found out first hand.

I'll probably get it stock then tailored tofit. Thanks for the info.

>>5974760
look at this fuccboi, so mad he's late to the game haha

real talk, that guy is right and /fa/ / tumblr / the internet in general hasn't given a shit about undercover until the last year or two. 3 years ago those UC leathers were going for as little as $800 on Y! and now today you have fuccboi's trying to sell them for $1600, they didn't even retail for that much.

hype, hype, hype. if you don't see it then you're right in the middle of it.

P.S. there's a reason there's so many of those leathers floating around on the second hand market, it's because they fit like shit. pro-tip if you see any piece constantly coming up again and again it's because there's something wrong with it. there's a reason you never see stuff like crisp white dress shirts second hand, because they always fit spot on and go with everything.

you should always be trying to zone in on the people who are selling stuff because they're strapped for cash, have sizing problems, or they can't pull it off. this though is the minority, the majority of people are selling shit because the fit is whack / the piece is falling apart / somethings wrong with it. always question everyone's motives in the second market.

when you see something like those leathers come up again and again in every single size and colourway there's a reason for it.

#truth #knowledge #realtalk

>>5974794
yeah man theres a lot of money in this shit and it just gains in value.

I mean these are the chairs you see in men in black, or in mad men with don drapper sitting there in meetings in.

what specifically are you looking for?

a task chair?

an arm chair?

a zenith parchment arm chair? (lol good luck)

or just a polypropalyne herman miller licensed repro made by vitra which really isn't worth anything....other than the asking price on herman miller.com

if it's alexander girard fabric DON't go ripping it off that shit is getting harder to find these days and it feels GOOD especially the felted ones after a through cleaning

>>5974812
I know a guy who makes a living buying pretty big amounts of designer clothing specifically to mark them up in the aftermarket.

How do I gain the knowledge of some of the posters in this thread? The sticky is pure shite. I have a good eye for aesthetics but I want to advance my knowledge above the high street and the obvious Rick Owens type name dropping. I want to become a discerning patrician in the same way I am towards music.

>>5974817
I just want a nice classic Eames side chair that isn't a knockoff.

>>5974842
Learn everything there is to know about French, Italian and New York fashion designers.

>>5974842
Just read about fashion. Not just on the internet but in books. Also fashion sketching is a cool skill to learn, it gives you a really good appreciation of silhouettes and generally makes you appreciate fashion as an art form.

>>5974832
you're on a forum where we all wore designer clothing and re-sold pieces from B&M stores at higher prices or our own used pieces at higher prices to people who don't have accsess to them.

IE buy rick for $65 locally on clearance

resell for $120 on B&S

>>5974842
which poster specifically?

>>5974857

>>5974752
>>5974812
>>5974760

>>5974842
try reading elsewhere

>>5974870
These are people pointing out the obvious. Not really fashion knowledge, just common sense + keeping up with collections and community.

>>5974845
Zinc plated hardware (should have a faded rough appearance like the inside of a penny when you scratch the copper off)

fiberglass

stickers in tact should say something along the lines of copyright 1959 IDR im not at home right now

and it should have a swooping H logo with HERMAN MILLER in all caps on the underside

the base should roughly be 6" apart bolt wise on the rear of the chair

and 4" apart on the front of the chair

should have black glue (residue is fine) on the bottom and a black washer that looks like its spacing the bolt from the fiberglass (but actually holds it on)

the glides should be off white like rick owens milk colorway

and a few other things depending on year

if you find zenith scoop it, its harder to tell those apart though

be patient, these things are popular. there are weekly blog posts about them, designers rave about them and even wall street journal writes about them on their weekend review advertising hem to high end clientel with interior designers recommending them

>>5974875
>>5974846
>>5974845
Ok. I feel like I don't learn anything on here, and whenever someone asks a question it's just snide remarks as answers mostly.

I am going to get back into sketching

>>5974870
Some guy talking about furniture that's been here for more than 5 years, and the others just pointing out the obvious?

>>5974832

real talk almost every online consignment shop out there is run by someone who basically does just that, only a small fraction of the stuff they sell is actually submitted for consignment by real people. the vast majority of their stock they get from sample sales and brick and mortar consignment stores who vastly undervalue their product. people on the internet will always pay way more than whatever foot traffic these places get. i do it myself somewhat but it's just a thing i do on the side for beer money. picked up a pair of $300 sugar canes and $500 yohji trousers for $30 a pop today and will probably flip them both. this is coming from a mid sized Canadian city too. the mecca for this shit is Japan, rural kids go into the city for the weekend, buy up tons of shit and then years later unload it in their local consignment shop. there's online consignment stores that just tour around rural Japan and plunder the booty. there's a fucking ton of vintage UC and ura-harajuku type stuff just sitting in these sleepy little rural consignment stores waiting to be gobbled up and sold online to western tumblr fuccboi's for mucho dinero.

my best bet on the other hand is guys cheating on their girls and getting their wardrobe dumped at my local source, happens a surprising amount.

#truth #reality #realtalk

>>5974870

>>5974884
I really appreciate the information. Patience is key, I don't mind waiting as long as I don't get ripped off.

Hopefully I can find one I can inspect in person.

>>5974893
Idk, maybe I'm just pleb. I wish secondary school taught me how to be /fa/ instead of useless math shit that ill never need

>>5974896
This is true.

>
my best bet on the other hand is guys cheating on their girls and getting their wardrobe dumped at my local source, happens a surprising amount.

Jesus christ. Never put your dick in the crazy.

>>5974912
You probably know just as much as the average poster, they just pass their posts off with more bravado.

You probably know more if you sketch in all honesty.

>>5974898
This so much. Great post

>>5974896
>my best bet on the other hand is guys cheating on their girls and getting their wardrobe dumped at my local source

why do women always want to borrow clothes from men though....seriously....especially if it has a pleb label they recognize

a Gucci shirt you can pick up for $35 on gilt on a sunday night steal will have some bitch with a coach purse creaming her panties when she wears it and does that stupid boyfriend shirt fit bullshit

>>5974942
I don't know. I think they're used to it. I really don't get it.

I've let my friends borrow some tees if they need to change or a shirt. But never like...a jacket or pants or shoes. It seems really strange to me.

>>5974896
>>5974379

Dammit /fa just buy my UC perfecto with no revealing explanation and let's get it over with. Not everyone has the time, money nor means to do so (fly out).

Are there any essential books to fashion theory? And any journals? I view collections but have a hard time taking a lot of it in and figuring out why I really like some shit but not others (ex i love this yohji)

I'm actually pretty sold on the TOJ at this point especially the colour options.

Anybody have experience with TOJ?

>>5974379
Dear Montrose,

This will make our day, contact me with a message as necessary.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Undercover-Undercoverism-knit-sleeve-rider-1-s-/151028571306?pt=US_CSA_MC_Outerwear&hash=item232a011caa

Godspeed,
Novi

>>5975008
I've seen a few fits where their sleeves look really weird (boxy?)

>good leather jacket
>for under 2 grand

Why don't you go take a walk through a Zilli or Galasso showroom and then come back here with that bullshit. God I'm fucking sick of you weeds going on and on about all this dick owens shit

>>5975011
You know I actually probably would If I liked the sleeves and it was my size.

>>5975014
Fit can be corrected, I'm more concerned about the durabilty and overall quality.

>>5975004
Would be interested too

>>5975022
haha

wats the difference between undercover and undercoverism?

>>5975008
people still like TOJ?

its been 2 years since people talked about them on SF

people used to sell them 1 week after getting them, and it wasn't just 1 or 2 guys

just make sure you have money to burn and that you can lose a few hundred

>>5975022
>Zilli or Galasso

I'm not a fan of the boxy trust fund look

>>5975044
oh look sieg is full of shit again

you do realize anyone selling them was because they didn't fit them, right

>>5975044
I don't have money to burn unfortunately.

What was the issue with their clothing?

>>5975057
seems like a lot of jackets not fitting
especially for a "custom bespoke made to measure" jacket

and too bad most for sale threads included reposted
WAYWT fit pics....

>>5975043
essentially the same thing as You and Basic fuccboi plebeian who needs to fuck out of here

>>5975085
how do u pronounce fuccboi?

>>5975085
lol

>>5975097
Soup-ream

>>5975105
i call my friends foosh bwa but i wanna kno if i say itright

>>5975054

They both make phenomenal stuff, don't be a douchebag

>>5974956
I've never really lent my clothes to anyone. The only two times I can remember is when I lent my friend a shirt at a sleepover when we were like 8 and when I lent someone an extra pair of shorts for gym class back in 6th or 7th grade. Shit's weird.

>>5975110
Don't like Zilli but Gallasso is alright.

>>5975043
no but srsly guise?

is ism any cheaper, or just more streetwear oriented?

>>5975157
it's the exact same thing dummy

>>5975107
fuckboy

>>5975107
your friends are thinking exactly "geez what a fuccboi"

when you are gone
>"fush bua? what the fuck? was he refering to fuccboi"
>"lol haha i no right anon,=>!? i didn't want to say anything then"


>"what a fagget"
fuccboi

>>5975133

Galasso is basically Zilli on steroids. Price point and quality of materials is about the same.

To each his own

>>5975157
ism was the menswear, but its been blurred

>>5975205
>>5975184
ty

Bump for opinions on TOJ or alternatives

>>5975030
you don't like the sleeve then. what is your size?

>>5975537
I like the wool/leather combo it's the shoulder detailing which I can't get past.

>>5975309
k

>>5975539
Okay, fair enough. What is your size? Present, I have time to assist and point you out to exceptional leathers that are currently on market.

>>5975556
Oh. Why thank you. Chest size is about a 37-38, so I usually fall between a european small and medium.

>>5975567
that undercoverism jacket will fit you

ASAP rocky wears it in a video too

>>5975581
no he doesn't

>>5975581
This sieg is best sieg a sieg we're all sieg

>>5975567
>perfecto style
>38 chest small

Julius leather, straight from Japan
http://www.blacksense.jp/shop/julius/%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%80%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A3%E3%82%B1%E3%83%83%E3%83%88/item/view/shop_product_id/309

speak, measure and order directly from ToJ
http://johncoppidge.tumblr.com

acne gibson
http://shop.tres-bien.com/brand/acne/gibson-leather-jacket-black

rick owens
http://www.ebay.com/itm/rick-owens-leather-jacket-size-S-as-new-rare-/130889616738?pt=Men_s_Clothing&hash=item1e79a10d62

>>5975581
link
i don't believe asap's stylist has this much taste

>>5975004
Holy shit that is classy! Mother of god! We need to bring back women's hats.

i wish i had enough money to be a chair connoisseur

>>5975676
>Pic related.

>>5975679
Rosebud?

>>5975670
Raf Simons and Rick Owens are the comanies of the garments he is regularly dressed in.

>>5975663
>>5975663
Thanks for looking these up man. So far I'm leaning towards the TOJ and I like the gibson but am unsure of the fit,

>>5974779
Sieg hates rick owens. He's the first guy to shit on him for making fakes.

>being this new
>being one of the goofnigger cult

get the fuck out my /fa/

>>5974725
'because i was oblivious to it means everyone else was! hurr!'

u

>>5976756
sieg hates RO now, but he didn't before

>>5974752
You're upset over furniture?

Bump

>>5974379

BLK DNM is under budget, but the fit is great. If you're deliberately wanting to invest more, then maybe:

-Robert Geller
-Diesel Black Gold
-(T by) Alexander Wang
-3.1 Phillip Lim
-SILENT Damir Doma

>>5980272
i own one pair of jeans and they are BLK DNM. love em to death

got em on sale too.

>>5980281

They're adding lots of new categories and styles for fall. There's a faux-fur lined hoodie that's crazy comfortable that I'm eagerly awaiting.

>>5974379
>spending over 200 dollars on this piece of shit
holy christ you all are fucking morons

>>5980402
>>>/fit/

>>5980272
Is BLK DNM good?

>>5974379
You could give me the money, I already know, which jacket I would get if I had 2000 dollar.

pretty please?

But seriously, I have no idea.Sorry

Has anyone gotten a custom coat from Schott before? I'm curious to see how much more the cost is and if people have been happy with the fits.

I have circus freak proportions so no off the rack coats fit me well.

>>5976979
ive always hated rick

its childish crap for children who want to cry for attention and refuse to dress like an adult

its where all the high school punx rox kids or homosexual bloggers go to get clothes

good thing these kids are too poor to live near stockists and will spend extra money to buy used shit