/fa/ - Fashion

I like 24h watches

>>18081460
Severely Based Thread.

>>18081460
Based OP.

>>18080974
Agreed, exceptional value for money. The reason I don't have one is that I find their designs ugly as shit. That might be why they are exceptional value for money, of course.

>>18081089
I actually like Mahrk fram Lahng Eyelan Wahtch daht Calm; he's honest about what he does (i.e. move merch). He has really sad looking eyes though....but he doesn't pretend to be something he isn't.

>>18081123
I do too...for a while, I wanted to get one. All because of Clive Cussler, of course, and because in the diving community they are utterly unique and well-respected.

>>18081316
Crazy thing is that they had them for the early ETA-based movements before...Prince William still wears a mid-size Seamaster Quartz that Princess Diana gave him. If they brought out midsize, they'd kill it...but I think the problem is with the co-axial movement.

>>18081337
I think this is cool. I've never bought out of a boutique before, so I'm glad they gave you and royal treatment. Love your 3861 btw...thinking of getting one if/when they land on the moon again. Is it performing well?
>protip - STEPDIALS RULE!!!, see pic.

>>18081462
I do too....both the Mark40 and the Grail exhibit a 24-hour subdial. Love the 'extra' complexity.

>>18081469
Thank you, my CredorChad Fren. From the bottom of my heart, I always wish you happiness and peace.

>>18081473
Peace and prosperity to you, my Stiletto CitizenChad Fren.

I wish you all good health and happiness. Yes, even you, dearest BitterAnon. May you find peace in a tumultuous world.

>>18081460
okay Omega Speedmaster Moonshine gold with the rubber strap or should i commit to the bracelet?

>in-house caliber
>check pic related
>selitta base
every time

>>18081485
Bracelet, of course. The only reason to do moonshine gold is to flex, so why not go all the way. The only reason I don't get one is that the Rolex President Day-Date is still a 'perfect' watch by comparison, though I favour the vintage versions over the modern iteration. Finally, you could always get the rubber strap after.

>>18081487
I know. Watchbase is fucking awesome for what info they actually have. I don't like Selita movements; they're measurably inferior to ETA, so I avoid them like the plague. Doesn't help that Swatch Group prevents companies outside from using ETA now. If only I could still buy a Laco Flieger with a proper ETA again.

>>18081159
>il a du scroller jusqu'à la 7ière définition

secouant ma tête

based

>>18081496
Vintage Tudor; wear it in good health, mate. The proportions are correct, the lines are sharp, and it suits your ensemble.
>they don't make them like they used to...

>>18081489
true lots of decent rubber straps out there

>>18081502
Not only that, but the function of a gold watch is to show others that they are inferior. A gold watch on a rubber strap (or an 'Oysterflex') is bullshit. It's a cope. It's an inappropriate combination of aesthetics, and it looks cheap. If the owner wants to wear it on leather or rubber, fine, but it shouldn't appear as if the owner simply couldn't afford the correct full bracelet combination and opted for the cheaper equivalent.

>I'm a snob sometimes, I know. But c'mon, don't you agree?

>>18081496
Looks dull AND old at the same time, impressive.

>>18081496
ngl I like it, and I usually never look at Tudor.
You what it lacks though?
A CYCLOPS.

>>18081521
And that's a good thing. Fuck cyclopses.

>>18081469
Is this a rotary engine?

>finally a good looking watch from W&W2024
>realize it's 40mm
Into the trash it goes.

>>18081524
Wankel Engine?

>>18081527
Too big for you? Maybe that joke was too cheesy....

>it's so quiet...if I'm louder, I might wake everyone up...

>>18081527
The logo ruins it.

>>18081531
>Too big for you?
40mm for a 3 hands watch without a rotating bezel is too big for ANYBODY. Even fatsoes. It should be somewhere between 32 and 36mm.

>>18081531
More like Wanker engine, am I right?
Is this a BA plushy? I'm more of a Asuna guy desu but it looks cute.

>>18081531
Join the discord OmegaChad. We need you there.

>>18081524
Yeah.

>>18081536
>40mm for a 3 hands watch without a rotating bezel is too big for ANYBODY.
You're retarded

>>18081460
I think I’m gonna get an alpinist

>>18081541
Dream come true.

>>18081536
I disagree, respectfully. I guess it depends on what the function is...fliegers are 3-handed watches, and they went up to 55mm. Watch size vs. wrist is over-rated...just another artificial organizational metric. Buy what you love, and fuck the rest.

>>18081538
No..Wankel. Mercedes used them, Mazda used them....It has the same shape.

>>18081541
I don't trust discord, and the truth is that you don't need me there. You're very kind, but this thread is like a cafe I ride up to every once in a while to enjoy refreshments and chat with the locals....eventually I drive off again, and leave it all behind. I like this arrangement, and I have no intention of changing it. Besides, I have nothing new to contribute. I'm old, and set in my ways, and have no new watches or insight to offer. Maybe if/when I get a new watch, I will participate more. But the secret truth is that I'm happy with the way things are...

>permanence in an ever-changing world is worth studying....

>>18081507
yeah you right flexing is definitely one of the reasons for wanting a gold watch lmao

>>18081489
>they're measurably inferior to ETA
In what ways? Because in my experience servicing them, there is hardly any difference. If anything Sellita has the advantage of availability for spare parts.
Not to mention, ETA may very well be on the way towards using the shitass Powermatics with an expiry date as the basis, phasing regular mainsprings and escapements out.
Soprods have been the real bed-shitters in my experience.

>>18081545
Nice watch.

>>18081549
What other reason is there to spend multiples more than a stainless-steel version? Even the practical elements degrade in front of your eyes. Gold is softer, more prone to scratches. It's not more resistant to corrosion than modern stainless steel. It's not more water-proof, or anti-magnetic, or anything else. It's just gold....a material that is a wealth-signifyer in many parts of the world. If you want a stealth-wealth, go white gold or platinum...but if yellow-gold (and moonshine gold), then it's a flex. C'mon...are you being serious?

>>18081551
Check out Archer's posts on WUS regarding the differences between the two. I trust his assessments and photographic evidence. In short, there is usually more wear on specific elements and/or parts on Sellita movements than on the ETA movements they are based on, simply because the Sellita designs cut corners to save costs and/or are derivatives of already proven movements.

I would avoid Sellita like the plague. But ultimately most people today don't have the luxury. If a watch is disposable, then no problem...when you get it serviced, just drop in a new Sellita movement. But if you want something tuned to your habits, go for ETA every time in this price bracket.

It's probably a reason I tend to hate modern microbrands. But I think I'm just an old fart. It's easy to laud the Lemania 321 or 5100, or the Valjoux 7750 variants....tried, tested, and true. But they have time on their side. I have no idea if the 3861 will last (now that they've fixed the center pinion issue), or if the Rolex 33xx movements are truly corrected. It's all the same in the end; does the watch perform the way you want with the reliability you require?

Chinese movements are shit...but if cleaned up and regulated, they can run well....for now. I think the 'expectations' of modern horological enthusiasts are far out of line for what is possible and capable.

Why do you think I love vintage watches more than modern?

>>18081558
>you get it serviced, just drop in a new Sellita movement. But if you want something tuned to your habits, go for ETA every time in this price bracket.
Funny you should say that because the Swatch repair centers can and will replace your entire ETA movements to cut costs. It's faster and easier to just replace the dials and hands than it is to service the movement. You can have an operator do that all day instead of having to hire a watchmaker that's going to take longer and command higher wages.
Then again, that's just Swatch catching up to Richemont's practices.
tl:dr : never send your watches in for repair, find a reputable watchmaker instead. Bonus points if he is not directly affiliated with brands so he doesn't have to adhere to their standards and race to the bottom when it comes to repair and service practices.
>t. doing a service on an automatic Cartier right now because the owner doesn't want to wait two months for his Pasha to come back with a replaced movement and a 2 year service warranty Cartier will bail on

>>18081563
I don't doubt you at all; it's gotten to that point where replacing movement will always be more cost-effective unless they are finished to a basic degree. There are enough low-end that use ETA that are in this category.

That's why (of course) I have a watchmaker who takes care of my watches. I've sent in the disposable, standard watches to Omega for servicing, but the vintage ones are only handled by my watchmaker. I will be in trouble when he dies. As I mentioned in the last thread, Anons who are new to the hobby will have trouble; Omega will not sell parts to independents unless they have an Omega Parts Account, so at least with that company, certain concerns that may crop up can only be solved 'in the system'. When Omega serviced my Seamasters, the results were in general acceptable, though I had to send the 2599.80 back (under warranty) in due to the chronograph issue. If it's not tritium, I'll have Omega service it directly. If it's tritium or/and older, my watchmaker is the only one who touches it.

But as I say, not everyone has this luxury. For most people, getting a vintage watch comes with a lot of learning and a lot of heartache, along with not knowing if your local watchmaker is screwing you for a buck.

>>18081545
do it, the al-penis is a nice watch

pic is mine

Gotta get sleep now, Frens. Have a great thread, and treat each other well.

>sorry for the missing words. Druk, you know how it goes.

>>18081564
That's also funny because Omega is one of the few brands that runs an actual vintage/heritage workshop.
They take absolutely forever and the prices are through the roof but I've seen some of their restauration works and what they can do is impressive.
Same with Longines but very few watches are sent there.
I've heard really good things about Blancpain's too but they take 6 months to just send you a repair quote since they only have 4 people working there.
Meanwhile Cartier has only recently opened its "Topic Workshops" in select repair platforms to do actual movement service in 2021 iirc.
The standards in that part of the industry are a joke and I'm not laughing.
Although I'm not complaining, it means that when clients arrive with vintage stuff, we all know the more reasonable option is to have me take care of it because brands will either do a botch job (Cartier), refuse it (some Swatch brands like Mido or Rado, and outside of Swatch but more disturbingly, IWC) or takea thousand days and as many bucks (Omega, JLC)

>>18081567
>>18081567
>sorry for the missing words. Druk, you know how it goes.
Based.
Rest well, king.

>>18081569
>workshop
I don't trust them.
>take...forever
Agreed.
>impressive
Agreed, from what I've seen of others who have taken the risk.
Don't know anything about Cartier, or Blancpain.

Ultimately, if I trust the watchmaker, I'd rather they do it. There's a direct line of communication of what I want worked on and what I want left-the-fuck-alone. Brands don't understand this.

Thank you for your inside-knowledge; this kind of wisdom is always appreciated on thread.
>>18081570
I will, dear Fren. What are you wearing tonight?

>>18081574
>Brands don't understand this.
>oops haha we changed your entire bezel, dial and hands without letting you opt out heheehee I hope you didn't like the patina your dial was starting to grow but you have to understand, it didn't align with our brand's standards of excellence, and we're not returning the parts to you either despite them being your property (and we're not compensating you either) because we'll happily take your money but we don't trust you to not have the old parts refitted or to not sell them because we consider every watch owner as a potential criminal
I hate Rolex service so goddamn much.
It's even worse now that they straight-up won't give service accreditations to anyone who doesn't work in one of their stores. Not even a third-party AD, a store strictly operated by Rolex itself.

Watch I'm interested in has two movements options for purchase.
1 : Miyota quartz movement (2S60)
2 : Seiko VH31 Sweep Second Quartz
Is one of these better than the other by some metric? I recently got into the watch scene and dont know anything about movements.

APOLOGIZE.

>>18081583
Footballchads, fellow Mbappebros...
Victory, once again, is ours.
Let the backwards, boring old men seethe while we push the boundaries of horology.

>>18081538

>>18081527
Meh, i'm not impressed, the casde of the Tonda looks way better,

>>18081613
you'll never be happy in hell. you're in hell.

>>18081616
???

>>18081581
Take the Seiko, it sweeps.

>>18081617
money doesn't buy happiness

>>18081620
Yes it does.

>>18081621
you cant buy love or a way out of hell

>>18081620
Ok give me yours then.

>>18081627
if i gave every nigger a dollar who asked for one i'd be down

>>18081626
>you cant buy love
Yes you can.
>a way out of hell
I don't believe in jewish tales.

>>18081620
That has nothing to do with the fact that i prefer the case shape to the Tonda.

>>18081632
>to
*of

>>18081628
You only have a dollar?

>>18081632
you merely believe this watch will make you happy. my suggestion? earn a lot of money.

>>18081636
Where did you get this from? I just said i don't like the case shape and you assumed that i think a watch will make me happy from that?

>>18081536
>40mm for a 3 hands watch without a rotating bezel is too big for ANYBODY. Even fatsoes. It should be somewhere between 32 and 36mm.
fucking lmao

Bittercel wristlet strikes again.

Post a picture of a watch you like.
No 3D renders. I don't like 3D renders.

>>18081684
Beautiful watch sir how much?

>>18081693
It was €14 with shipping

Give me 3 good reasons why not.

>>18081706
1. you
2. are
3. gay

easy enough LMFAO enjoy your blog FAG

>>18081706
>Not Swiss
>It is not a mechanical watch
>It's not expensive

>>18081706
soler system?

>>18081705
a-are you a professional?

End Game

Thoughts?

Why aren't any swatch brands at watches & wonders?

>>18081729
The ugliest Richemont Constantin ever made.

While all the YouTubers follow the events of the Geneva conference, Archie films a public restroom for men in Dubai

>>18081729
Where are you sailing to?

>>18081706
Impossible. Get it.

Every time i see a watch i like to imagine what kind of character would wear it.
>>18081558
An astronaut
>>18081724
Dr. Lecter
>>18081729
A fat, decadent, tacky Russian gangster in the early 2000s

Hey Lads, what's up?
https://files.catbox.moe/k6bnbl.mp4

>>18081764
You’ve been blogging a lot more than usual lately. Is everything okay?

>>18081734
They are banned.

What is THE incel watch?

>>18081783
casio f91w

I called my sales lady for this and she wants me to put a deposit down. I think I wanna see it first though. Absolutely beautiful

>>18081783
Rolex submariner or any RM

>>18081788
isnt that one more closely associated to terrorists than incels?

>>18081790
would you say a 5 digit no date sub is more incely than a 6 digit date? I see a lot of wall street guys wear 11 and 12 series sub dates.

>>18081789
I don't understand why Cartier insists with that lacquer thing. It's basically glorified PVD. Doesn't look good. The dial is nice though.

>>18081791
All terrorists are incels.

>>18081789
SEXO

Is Richemont the worst thing that ever happened to the watch industry?

>>18081583
Those damn screws.. wtf..

>>18081817
Is Swatch worse?

>>18081783
Grand Seiko

Verification not required.

>>18081706
It is on YOU to have ONE good, decisive reason to buy a watch. So what’s it gonna be?

>>18081724
>jan on top of month dial
>sun on top of day dial
?

>>18081729
Photoshopped

>>18081817
Honestly a lot of calendar watches look exactly like this. They all just start blending together with their four subdials.

>>18081823
Swatch is awful but they're ruining less brands than Shitemont.

>>18081835
They didn't even bother to change the font on the year window.

>>18081836
Richemont mogs all other conglomerates with Cartier, Vacheron, Lange, and JLC.

>>18081844
In terms of brands they’ve ruined?

Swatch ruined Omega and Longines. Those are pretty big.

>>18081845
Longines is on the up, bro.

>>18081845
No. I can't understand what's going on in your retarded schizophrenic brain to assert that Cartier, Vacheron, or Lange have "been ruined" by Richemont. Compare it to Swatch kneecapping Blancpain for the last 10 years or forcing Breguet to release hideous worthless sport watches.

There's so much gilt that it basically has two-tone vibes.

>>18081848
I don’t know about Lange but Cartier is just cranking out steel entry-level luxury garbage when they used to be exclusive.
Vacheron has always been overrated but the only elegant watches they’ve made in the last 30 years have been recreations of pre-Richemont designs.

There's so much gilt that it basically has two-tone vibes.

>>18081848
Cartier absolutely was though, they are the group's cash cow churning out watches with 15 euro worth of quartz movement sold for thousands. All it takes to get away with it is releasing some hyper-limited pieces assigned to VIP customers before conception even starts that have so little to do with the consumer brandn they might as well two different brands, and Cartier buys itself a clean reputation among watch enthusiasts.
They can offer the worst value, the absolute worst after-sale service, they still get away with it and sell shitloads by just sitting on a century worth of designs they've inherited.
It's a shame because they could do so much more.

>>18081853
Cartier is a better watchmaker than ever by every metric. They can now produce high complications and Geneva seal watches. They also still produce ultra exclusive designs that you will never see in person unless you are a VIP client. Vacheron does have a shit modern offering but compared to the bejeweled abominations Patek is churning out to the Arabs or black panther watches from AP it is just laughable to complain about high quality recreations.

>>18081856
Cartier had no real watchmaking division until the early 2000s. It is extremely dishonest to pretend that they don't have watchmaking chops.
>They can offer the worst value, the absolute worst after-sale service, they still get away with it
But enough about Patek.

>>18081527
Sissy LMAO

Thoughts?

>>18081862
They do and don't have watchmaking cred.
They do in that they can make some ridiculous high-end stuff, but they don't in that the part of Cartier that does it has basically nothing in common with the rest of the whole brand. It's like comparing Tissot and Breguet in terms of overlap.
> no real watchmaking division until the early 2000s.
That's just false. They had one, they've had one for decades too, but it went dormant after their effort to stay competitive in the 80s weren't enough. Like pretty much everyone else during the quartz crisis.

>>18081854
fauxtina yuckkkkers still probably going to buy it though

>>18081729
Disgustingly retarded window date

>>18081854
It probably looks more subtle in person than in pictures.
I don’t think it’s fauxtina lume, I think it’s just the effect of the gilt dial and index surrounds.

>>18081772
Yeah, I just have more free time lately. Thanks for asking though.
How's everything on your end?

>>18081873
In my experience, gilt/gold markers and numerals are even more obvious in person than in pics.

>>18081875
not bad currently having sex with your ex wife thanks.

>>18081854
Look at this.
They better come up with some fresh colorways.

I HATE YOU ALL
I HATE YOU ALL
'nough said

>>18081886
My vote goes to this.
Teal and fuchsia bezel, with the GMT script in fuchsia also.

With fauxtina to complete the vintage faded look.

>>18081854
Small peepee date window ruins it.
Cyclops or no date at all would have been better.

>>18081888
It's okay anon, I hate myself and I hate you too.

>>18081902
>cyclops better than a small date window
Ok grandpa, was the pudding they served today good? What flavor was it?

>>18081866
Bump Armin Strom up, and throw Richard Mille out.

>>18081917
What watches are not recommended by teddy?

>>18081886
Gosh it's so boring.

So THIS is what being the best watch maker of our time (heh) will get you.

>>18081922
It's very close to the Rolex original but is actually less boring than the Rolex lol

>>18081919
I liked how at Watches&Wonders he looked even more like a kid wearing his dad's clothes than usual.

>>18081924
Yes, and?

>>18081583
>torx crown
so based

>>18081729
what happened to your armhair

>>18081924
no wonder he is a drunkard

>>18081817
I like that JLC PC. Probably my fav PC layout because it doesn't have any of that bullshit clutter leap year or quarters shit and just indicates that in an unobtrusive fashion. It's very legible for the amount of info it displays. Also it shows the actual year, which is surprisingly uncommon in PC's.

>>18081924
TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK


GET GUILLOCHE GET GUILLOCHE GET GUILLOCHE GET GUILLOCHE

>>18081983
I’d like to apply a little perlage to her baseplate, if you can pick up what I’m putting down.

>>18081681

>>18081987
I'd spin her rotor if you know what i'm saying.

>>18081983
is she married?

>>18082005
No. And she only dates white guys (not even meming).

>>18082013
Probably not a lot of other options in Switzerland.

I want one

>>18081706
DEW IT

>>18081706
If you're going for white, you might as well go full bling.

what's on his wrist?

>>18081872
Wait what window date wi-
>mfw it's so fucking bad my brain literally just tuned it out

>>18082050
Audemars Piguet Royal Oak.
You can't afford it.

>>18082050
Looks like a Royal Oak.

>>18081777
Why would they be banned?

>>18081496
Chad

>>18082055
The watches leaked oil all over the floor the last time they were there and they ruined the carpets.

This may be the worst watch from Watches & Wonders 2024. Don't know what they were thinking with this.

>>18082052
thats the appeal

>>18082065
classic Zenith

>>18082067
There is no appeal.

Why is nobody talking about this?

>>18082072
The brushing of the stripes doesn't match lel.

>>18082070
you get a full index

>>18082072
It's in one of these btw.

It is within spec sir the warranty does not apply here sir. Is there anything else I can help you with?

>>18082072
>Basic quartz shitter caliber used exclusively on women's gaudy models.
Nothing to talk about. It's just meant to look pretty on the surface and offer nothing technology wise.

>>18082087
>used exclusively on women's gaudy models
I don't see a travel timer in your pic.

>>18082072
everyone knew this was going to happen. i'm a bit surprised it was patek and a bit surprised it took that long but the big names just simply dont need mechanical movements anymore and they need to shift the attention away from them because anyone can do them now

>>18082087
Do women even buy these?

>>18082110
No their husbands buy it for them.

>>18082112
Shit gift desu fampai.
If I were a woman, I'd ask for a Cartier tank, JLC reverso, or even a rose gold daydate/datejust, not, whatever those abominations are.

>>18082052
had the exact same reaction lol

>>18082115
Tasteless watches wouldn't exist if there weren't tasteless people. Hell that's how jacob & co, richard mille, etc. are still around.

>>18082110
>>18082112
>>18082115
I work with a law firm that is almost 100% jewish. Almost every lawyers (women included) wear Patek. Jews LOVE Patek more than any other brands. It's owned by a jewish family after all.
>>18082117
Richard Mille makes very tasteful watches.

>>18082124
The Stern family aren’t actually Jewish, despite the name.

>>18082072
>Why is nobody talking about this?
Because it’s not news. Patek has been making quartz pieces for decades.
No one cared either until JC Biver came up with that “Blancpain has never made a quartz watch and never will” slogan.

Then people started to ask themselves
> wait…is quartz bad?

>>18082079
GAYYYYYYYYYYYYY LMFAO

>>18082139
They are 100% jewish.
Go to the synagogue, give money to Israel and have their dicks circumcised.

>>18082141
>Patek has been making quartz pieces for decades.
Fuck i didn't know that, i thought everyone kinda stopped after the quartz crisis.

I'll be honest with you, almost all modern Packs look horrible, possibly the only Patek that looks good is the Ellipse, even the Calatrava has become a plate

>>18082141
>is quartz bad?
If you're paying Patek prices for a watch, yes. Why even buy a Patek if you want quartz? It's a tremendous waste of money.

>>18082115
Asian woman is perfect for this reaction since culturally if you give an Asian person a gift they don't like they will literally refuse to take it.

>>18082152
The current Ellipse is a disaster.
>automatic movement
>dinner plate size (went from 27x32mm to 35x40mm)

>>18082156
> Why even buy a Patek if you want quartz?
Aren’t those models for women? They don’t care, they just want the brand and looks

>>18082150
Nope. Even the Jews say the Sterns aren’t.
https://www.thejc.com/lets-talk/patek-philippe-and-the-sterns-a-jewish-question-lagf9mhx

>>18082149
Don't you have a war to fight for jewkraine bittercel?

>>18082141
>>18082141
> wait…is quartz bad?
Yes, le quartz le bad.
>Why is that?
Because it just is! okay!?

>>18082172
What did he mean by this?

>>18082162
Yeah, exactly, you can get them a cheap shitter that looks the same or similar and save boatloads of money. You don't get the brand name, but Patek isn't even an aspirational brand for women so none of their women friends will even know what the fuck a patek is. Even on the higher end you could get a Cartier quartz watch, still save money, and her friends will know what the fuck Cartier is.

>>18082175
Quartz is bad because quartz = bad. The swatch group told me.
It's only acceptable in a Swatch (for cheap fun for a while).

>>18082175
something something not a real watch
you shouldn't listen to anything said here, including this post

If I'm a tourist in Switzerland what are my odds of being able to walk into a dealer and buy a Rolex? Do they do the same exclusivity waiting list bullshit in the mother land?

>>18082178
>>18082187
But >>18082141 didn’t say anything about whether quartz was good or bad. He was talking about marketing.

Ah well, I guess some anons like arguing about nothing rather than talk about watches.

>>18082160
I'll tell you, you're right. Don't they have a 33-36mm dress watch? That was Patek's specialty for decades. If you look at Patek's catalog you will see that it is worse than Vacheron's, at least Vacheron has the 222 in its original proportion. Even AP, so criticized in this thread, has the Royal Oak Jumbo, faithful to the original model. I'll tell you, Patek is a soulles brand.

>mogs your swiss shitter in every conceivable way

>>18082175
Quartz is
>bad
because the primary function of a watch nowadays is a show of wealth and sophistication rather than function. In terms of functional timetelling we went from
>mechanical
>quartz
>phone
the quartz era was really the crossing of the rubicon in that mechanical watches went from being a challenge of engineering to make your watch as compact as possible yet also as accurate as possible to an exercise in making them as compact as possible yet also as COMPLEX as possible since it's a status indicator to have a more complex, more expensive watch with more precious metals used.

tldr quartz watches are bad among watch people because watches are about fashion and SOVL rather than function and quartz watches dont have SOVL

>>18082191
I'm sure they don't just give them out freely otherwise people would just fly to Switzerland and snag their gmt master 2 and flip em easy

>>18082191
Mountain jew here. We have waitlists too.

>>18082200
So soul = dabbin on the poor's, got it

>>18082199
Based

>>18082199
is oceanus the new cope watch for the poors?

>>18082198
>Don't they have a 33-36mm dress watch?
They still have the 7200R in 35mm but I think it's rather boring and uninspired compared to the classic Calatrava. They're asking 32k euros for it kek.

Patek turned to shit the moment Thierry Stern was appointed CEO. All he did was discontinuing the classic Patek designs and replace them with oversized blingy sporty shitters.

The most hilarious thing he did was to release a minute repeater watch with a picture of his dad printed on the dial. It's an absolute mess, especially the whole area near the small second. It looks like they found a pic of Philippe Stern, vectorized it with Illustrator and didn't even bother cleaning it. Pathetic.

>>18082222
>It looks like they found a pic of Philippe Stern
Heh, I actually just found the pic they used.

>>18082203
>yeah, I'll just pay thousands of dollars on plane tickets to buy watches to flip, surely that won't eat into my profits and defeat the purpose...

>>18081460
What is this type of bracelet called?

>>18082222
Are there people that actually buy these things?

Rolex and Tudor DOMINANCE and with the 1908 they are coming after PATEK Rolex should only be allowed to make watches PERIOD

>>18082207
>So soul = dabbin on the poor's, got it

Yes, watches occupy the same space as fine art or luxury clothing or whatever

You buy them because you like the design and as a status symbol, the time telling for nice watches is incidental

>>18082247
Gay

>>18082241
I think those are called chevrons so try that.

>>18082207
If something is made of gold it’s pretty clear function is secondary. Watches are jewellery, people enjoy looking at them. It’s not dabbing on the poor, it’s perhaps about keeping up with your peers (if you are wealthy)

>>18082200
>tldr quartz watches are bad among watch people because watches are about fashion and SOVL rather than function and quartz watches dont have SOVL

>>18082264
I have a ballpoint pen on my desk. Is that not mechanical?

>>18082264
Damn I’d like to see a spring powered aeroplane too

>>18082267
My toilet is mechanical.

>>18082264
He's 100% right. Everything sucks now because everything has a screen, a microchip or a battery. Even my fridge comes with an app. Whenever I go outside I see dozens of fags riding these fucking things.
It's just nice to own something that works with only a bunch of gears and springs. If you don't understand that I'll assume you're trippled-vaxxed and support Ukraine.

>>18082289
Most people who can afford a nice watch are triple vaxxed and support ukraine, go back to your fitbit because these things are not for your kind

>>18082270
I was thinking of some stuff that's still commonplace to be totally mechanical and there's honestly not a lot.
>most plumbing
>most lawn care machines
>Gas generators?
>... Scissors?
I'm already running out of ideas.

>>18082237
Bro 2k on an 8k profit is entirely valid lmao. You buy that shit for 10k and get a free trip to Switzerland and like 4k at the end of it

Man, those Moonswatches are so bad, why do people buy them?

This is insanely nice

>>18081706
Yen is in gutters. Get it

Guys, can you believe Snoopy is on another watch? I can barely contain my excitement.

>>18082346
Is very big. A watch with such a fine and delicate design cannot be that big.

>>18082311
Locks are often mechanical still

>>18082338
Because they're collectable. That's basically it. Practically speaking for what you get for the money you pay for them they're horrendous watches, the colors even bleed off od them and onto your skin. But they're the watch version of beanie babies right now.

222

>>18082124
Show me a tasteful Richard mille.

If you had to buy a vintage dress watch, would you choose PP, AP or VC?

>>18082346
Why?

>>18082376
They are plastic. They will literally degrade.

>>18082382
RM is over-the-top but they are marvellous to look at. Technical masterpieces.

>>18082393
It's pretty fucked how the entire appeal of higher end watches is that they can last a long time and be handed down to the kids, and yet swatch's new business model is to hype up unserviceable watches made of literal garbage.

>>18082396
I noticed you didn't post an example.

>>18082399
I’m not the anon who called them tasteful. Any RM is a technical masterpiece, very original watches

>>18082338
Why did the Swatch group do this? Now you can buy A MAN ON THE FUCKING MOON cheap, no matter how expensive the Omega Spedy is, the original depreciates, normalfags can buy the plastic version. All this seems like a ritual of humiliation.

>>18082398
Absolutely. Swatch probably made good profits though

>>18082170
NOPE I MAKE LOTS OF MONEY OFF IT THO THANKS DUMBSHIT LMFAOOOOOO

>>18082170
>jewkraine
And here I thought you were based.

>>18082363
Found the manlet

>>18082050
how can such a humble and unemployed MAGA marxist afford such a time piece?

>>18081926
/fit/izens usually have issues picking out suits and not having them look weird without getting them specifically tailored.

Fuck I actually really want the new Tudor gmt what the fuck is wrong with me, even over the 5 digit gmt master coke

>>18082398
>yet swatch's new business model is to hype up unserviceable watches made of literal garbage.
Anon, Swatch has been around for 41 years and their business model from the very start was to sell inexpensive, near-disposable, fun/casual watches.

Even the name is a contraction of "second watch". It's not meant to hold a place in your collection forever. It was always meant to be a fun accessory.

>>18081926
that look is in style now though. guess no one told you. your skinny suits are making you look old

>>18081866
Blancpain, Chopard, Frank Muller, Glashütte Original: Strong Horology.
Bulgari, Czapek, Jacob & Co: High Horology.
Boucheron, Montblanc, Nomos, Panerai, Tudor, Vulcain: Standard Horology.
Ori, Porsche Design, Union Glashütte: strong horology.

Bertucci kino tho

>>18081706
>>18082045
how do they do solar power with white? That doesnt make sense.

$75 perfection.
Fucking perfect!

Thoughts on this meme watch?

that coke bezel is pretty sexo

>>18082488
>Bulgari, Czapek
These were the only two you got right.

>>18081684
Nice professional watch

>>18081866
Richard Mille high horology my ass. It's a toy for billionaires without taste. Horrible illegible expensive pieces of shit. I'd only accept one as a gift to use it to buy a Lange and party with the rest of the money. If you take money out of the equation I'd wear a fucking Seiko or a Casio before a RM any day.
Verification not required. Come at me I don't give a fuck.

>>18082199
The seconds hand is not hitting the mark

>nice professional watch

>>18082222
Nice Lenin pic on the dial

>>18082393
Good plastic will survive you and your kids, and their kids too. Further than that we, as humans, will probably nuke ourselves out.

>>18082405
It's the other watch around. As more people buy the cheap version, the original will win more value.

>>18082495
>looks like a sports watch
>50m water resistance.
Just buy a Skmei and save money. You're not getting something better with that shitter.

>>18082498
It's a meme watch

>>18082592
Which one should I get?

>>18082593
I was just joking. I like the watch. I'd pick the black version though. Also I'd pick a G-Shock before any of those really.

>>18082498
it's based. just wish it didn't get scratched so easily

>>18082481
Did they make them out of literal garbage? Because that's what they're doing with the high end brands under their umbrella. They want you to buy a Blancpain Fifty Fathoms made out of literal trash from the ocean and feel good that you're doing your part to mitigate plastic pollution and not send batteries to landfills, meanwhile you're buying an unserviceable movement made of plastic that will inevitably become plastic waste again anyway. It's a totally short sighted and retarded proposition that simultaneously devalues a prestigious brand and doesn't accomplish what they sell you on the project accomplishing.

>>18082033
crash cope

>>18082612
You shouldnt buy a blancpain even if it wasn't made out of trash

>>18081545
>>18081565
You think we should get rid of the cyclops aplinist chads?

>>18081579
Anywayyyy my rep should come any day

It finally arrived
>double domed sapphire
>seiko mechaquartz movement
>stainless steel
>33 euros
What a based watch idgaf if its made by chinks

>>18082636
The seconds hand is not hitting the marks.

>>18081729
fits you well, i like it

>>18082264
Man fucking Rolex last of dying breed. PURE SOVL

>>18081723
Of course.

>>18082338
>>18082376
>>18082398
>>18082481

You're all missing the point. The reason Swatch did this was to get a new generation into lusting after watches. No one lusts after a Royal Oak after owning a ghost Swatch....but if a kid is gifted a moonswatch, they'll eventually be curious about 'the real thing'. That's all Omega needed...something to boost younger folk into their product. It's brilliant, and has already resulted in higher sales of Speedmasters (including at my AD). Now that there is a plan to send people back to the moon again (and the fact that kids love that sense of adventure), this can't go wrong. Omega has literally set up another 4 decades of sales for their Speedmaster.

The Blancpain was intended to do the same thing, though I'm not sure how well it'll succeed (the FF is far more expensive than the Moonwatch). Regardless, there's no point critiquing the MoonSwatch on the merits of it as a piece of horology. That's not its purpose or intent.

It's the gateway drug. Like offering people testdrives of cars or food samples at Costco. I think they're fun watches, and if I had more 'fun' in my life, I'd probably have a few. They're very light and easy to wear, the proportions are similar (but not identical) to real Speedys, and the colours are, to be blunt, 'happy'. It's a fun toy, not serious horology.

One could argue that the money is better spent if someone wants a watch, but that's where the argument finds its endpoint. People don't buy the MoonSwatch to tell time accurately over decades of ownership. They are buying a wrist accessory that has name cache, a nice design, and enough variety to be collectable and go with one's outfits.

I like them; they make me smile, and they'll make Swatch group even richer.


>my oh-so-serious 1861

Thoughts?

>>18082594
Which is the G-Shock with the world map?

>>18082679
The Omega 3861 is coaxial, the Lemania 1873 isn't. The Tag is the 1996 first re-edition with the white dial (they had black dial and other configs too), and the Lemania 1873 had Omega variants (861/863) with 18 jewels, longer power reserve, etc.

The two watches are about 25 years apart in tech and capability. The price for the Tag is fair if the piece is NOS.

>>18081917
Honestly this is pretty sad when you really think about it. Richemont basically buy all those brands and then apply the same formula to each one of them. Obviously VC is miles ahead of Baume and Mercier in terms of finishing, but both brands share the same design language.
For example I find these >>18082346 rather boring and uninspired. What makes them quintessentially "Vacheron"? They could have made them in steel and put a Baume & Mercier logo on these and no one would have noticed.

>>18082679
I don't think you can go wrong here. The frequency is a little low for being "high end" but who cares. That's still a high end swiss movement. Beautiful watches. The TH chronographs are particularly appealing to me.

>>18082703
I'm 99% sure you could trick /wt/ by shooping the JLC logo on picrel. Almost everyone would be like
>SHIIIEEEEEET AUDEMARS PIGUET IS FINISHED

>>18081536
I wear 45mm aragon watches without hesitation on my 6.5" wrist. Looks awesome.

Kofe time.

>>18081536
I'd wear a Casio rangeman too. It's 55.2mm lug to lug. It's all good.

It has a altimeter, a barometer and thermometer.

>>18082724
>>18082732
The anon you're quoting is talking about dress watches.
He's right btw.

>>18082662
You say that but the Oysterquartz is the only watch they've ever made that's remotely unique on a technical level and truly innovative.

>>18082762
Go to bed TGV, no one cares.

>>18082738
The casio rangeman is the ultimate dress watch.

>>18082762
>Hexagonal screw holes
So close to not falling for the retarded RO meme.

>sent my cartier and grand seiko in for service today

wish i couldve fixed them myself but at least theyre not my problem anymore

now I wait for the bill

>>18082762
How are those screws even supposed to work? Are they just glued in? Then they're not even screws. If you unscrew it, it will just strip the metal.

>>18082771
Usually, you have a polygonal screw on the bezel. It is that shape speciifically so it won't move. Then at the back of the watch, you have a screw-tube that's going to get screwed into the bezel screw.

>>18082772
Ohhhhhhhhhhh........

>>18082771

>>18082766
haha yes pretending to be retarded is hilarious

>>18082772
Well the slot in the screw is a little redundant as it's not really needed. 4gw

>>18082777
Sure is, but it's probably there because the fully polished steel hexagons would look a bit weird without the slit in the middle. You'd just have a bunch of shiny dots across your bezel, wondering what they're for.

>>18082363
The one on the right is 39mm, and 8mm thin.

Jesus christ anon, go hit the gym or something.

>>18082770
Which models?

>>18082779
Yea but they could be individually brushed at the angle of the hexagon to add texture and enhance the design.

I supposed a slotted screw driver could be used in the slot to stabilize the screw momentarily as the threaded tube is installed on the other side but so could a bit of rodico.. I'm slightly annoyed by the form over function design of the slotted hexagonal screw but it could grow on me were I to be the owner of such a high end watch.

>>18082780
39mm for a 2 hands dress watch is too big. Even on Schwarzenegger's wrists it would look stupid. 39mm is for divers or chronographs. For dress watches, 33 to 36mm is the ideal diameter.

>>18082783
Oh Nevada watch.

I saw the screws and thought it was fancy like a patek or some Holy trinity someting.

>>18082784
>39mm for a 2 hands dress watch is too big
>Even on Schwarzenegger's wrists it would look stupid

Please tell me this is satire

>>18082785
Brushed finish on screws is actually considerably easier than mirror polish.
It takes 30 seconds and a piece of sandpaper.

>>18082788
I'm saying they should do brushed finish and get rid of those silly slots that serve no purpose.

>>18082781
sbga025 and a cartier tank 2303

>>18082791
Dress watch chrono always seemed so weird to me.

>>18082790
Yeah but there was kind of an implication that"it's Nivada, it's above their level" when it isn't.
Just wanted to clear that up because polishing screws sucks and everyone hates doing it.
Honestly, I don't really get these through-case screw-tube systems. I don't know if you really save that much on manufacturing by simply having smooth bore holes going through the case compared to threaded holes for functional bezel and caseback screws once you have industrial economy of scale and machines.

>>18082784
>39mm for a 2 hands dress watch is too big. Even on Schwarzenegger's wrists it would look stupid.
Now you're exaggerating a bit. My Cocktail time is 40,5mm and it's fine, it could have been a mill or two smaller, yes, but it's ok. I have average wrists.

>>18082787
Dress watches are supposed to be small and dainty. A small gold watch on a strong masculine wrist looks cool and elegant as fuck. Larger dress watches give off a disgusting "40mm Orient Bambino" vibe.

>>18082800
>same Tank on Ali reference every time
I'm on your side that it should be 33-34mm but surely there are more examples.

>>18082800
That watch looks ridiculous on his wrist. Just like that tie looks ridiculous.
Fashions change, deal with it.

>>18082814
Βased Bunny Poster

>>18082804
You've been brainwashed by the sports watches industry that has been telling you for decades that anything under 38mm is womens size.
>>18082795
>My Cocktail time is 40,5mm and it's fine
I can assure you it's not. 40mm is Submariner size. Just picture your 40mm dress watch next to a Submariner. The dial opening on your watch would look gigantic next to the Sub. It's all proportions.

Honestly I've never understood why /wt/ seethe so much about small watches. It's like seething at vintage cars because they don't have air conditioning. The whole point of dress watches is to emulate that classic 1950s/60s look. Buy that 39mm dress watch if you want, but I think it looks horrible. Pic related on the other hand is absolutely perfect in my opinion (it's 32mm).

>>18082821
>You've been brainwashed by the sports watches industry

Wristlet cope

>>18082821
That looks ridiculous, like a penny strapped to your wrist.

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>>18082821
I will admit it's a bit too big. I don't wear it that much since i've gotten my favorite watch which is perfect at 37mm. I can wear anything from 42 to 33.

>>18082680
None, I think.

>>18082591
>save 20 dollars
>in a thread about 5 grand watches

>>18082793
Looks pretty good on a strap, that bracelet is fucked though

>>18082999
He dint post a "5 grand watch".

Went to an omega store today and liked the speedmaster a lot more than i expected to. They wouldnt bargain with me at all though and it's in a part of town with way higher taxes so not sure if i should order from omega directly or just get it somewhere like chrono24.

>>18084131
>i went to an omega store
>they wouldnt bargain
You a nigger or just retarded?

>>18084153
There are no other stores that sell omega in my area that I could find.

>>18084219
So your just retarded my bad...
Why would an OFFICIAL omega store even bargain in the first place? They must have thought that you were the biggest poorfag on this planet

>>18084221
I have seen plenty of people that at least got tax knocked off from ADs. There are no longer any authorized dealers of omega in my area to try this at. Figured I had nothing to lose so might as well try while im there to see it on wrist. If I get one from chrono new I'm not sure where I could take it besides that one official store. At least I know I like it so even if I order from omegas site the taxes will be like $500 less to my house than the stores location.