/fa/ - Fashion

take the quartz pill

What is it gonna take to get Zoomers to LIKE this BRAND?

>>17541827
Why do you want zoomers to like Vacheron?
Also why do brands insist on adding a date window on chronographs?

How does /wt/ cope with this?

>>17541837
She's only correct about casios.
>>17541790
Casio belongs on the right side.

>>17541790
How is Patek on the right Patek is unironically garbage now

>>17541790
this but remove patek

>>17541852
The fact it makes (You), a tasteless poorfag, seethe it's on the right is enough proof it deserves to be on the right.

>>17541864
Massive projection
I could probably buy you and sell you to a slaver

>>17541864
How does calling a brand garbage equate to seething? This low level trolling is so boring. I've been browsing other boards and /fa/ is just unbrowasable comparatively. I don't see any trolling of such low quality anywhere else

>>17541837
breitling bros.. we fucking won

>>17541866
>I could probably buy you and sell you to a slaver
Prove it.

>>17541874
Ok I'll need your name, date of birth, weight, race, education and employment history

>>17541837
Too bad women don't actually care about Breitling Navitimer.

>>17541871
How is calling a brand garbage not low level trolling?

>>17541878
*about MY Breitling Navitimer. Fuck.

>>17541880
I'm not him but all the people on the dedicated watch forums say that Patek are going down in quality and none of their recent designs have been good

>>17541883
Yeah, and that's the reason why you can just walk into any Patek boutique and buy any watch from their catalogue with a fat discount.

>>17541885
Yes you can get about 10 percent off usually

>>17541837
>Caring about what cumdumpsters have to say
Really?

just won an auction on this

>>17541928
Damn the mcdonalds toys used to be a lot better
Should've gotten the shrek watch

Post wrists

>>17541955
ew

>>17541834
because vacheron is based crusader watch

>>17541791
I've been looking at the Equinoxe, Omega's cursed quartz Reverso-knockoff.

They probably released this shit the day JLC's patents expired.

>>17541837
>caring about some daft thot's opinion on watches
never gonna make it

>>17541928
I got an original Bishop, maybe we can jack off together other, anon.

>mogs the entire thread

>>17541958
Tastelet

>>17541883
their designs kinda sucked for a long time

>>17541993
The "Holy Trinity" kinda sucks anyway, it's only a matter of time before people wake up and realize. Same goes for every other high-luxury brand.

Above Rolex everything becomes sunk cost, and pretentious self-fellatio.

>>17542002
We all have that one HH watch or brand that kinda obsess us. For me it's Laurent Ferrier, I just love his designs. I also really like the new Tonda PF from Parmigiani Fleurier (don't care about anything else from the brand though).

Do you guys go for the stuff on Islander Watches? They have a lot of seemingly well made automatic watches for pretty cheap, is there a catch?

https://longislandwatch.com/?gad=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwq-WgBhBMEiwAzKSH6BBwaJ6nIsz7FeZuZhWJC6XMYx9u1juyPO4v1FZ7pxmIAqVb0oJguBoCauwQAvD_BwE

do you really need more?

>>17541858
>nagatorshit
makes me want to sell my rolex

>>17542043
the catch is shit movements and made by some dude in his basement

>>17541988
>orient star instead of royal orient

>>17542072
I bet those are made in china

>>17542043
Thry catch is that they are heavily inspired by other watches. My friend has one, quality is nice for a cheap watch.

>>17542043
You’re buying knockoffs with hi-beat miyota and ugly dials.

>>17542002
I think the best 4 watchmakers right now are Vacheron, Lange, JLC and Rolex

>>17542002
every watch is sunk cost and all watches are self-fellatio, its juwellery afterall. People with big money enjoy HH, people with little money enjoy casio.
Agree on Patek though, if i were HH money they still wouldnt see a dime of it, a shame because their vintage & neo-vintage pieces are nice

>>17542073
i didnt know that was a thing and from the looks of it ill never own one anyways.

>>17542012
True although I find the early idie pieces the coolest. Early Roger Dubuis, round FMullers or Dufours (duh)

>>17541979
I've seen at least three available. Each amd every one with the chrono screen not working properly. That watch is very risky.

>>17541988
Is OrientStar the "same brand" as Orient?

has anyone seen these in person? why did the blue one go up $1700 on all the gay market prices while the ones with "air king" on the dial went down? is it because people want an explorer with a good color

>>17542136
Pretty sure there's an anon with one of these floating around.

>>17542136
Black is just a little too plain, and white some people just don't like (think to when the last time someone was wearing a white button-down shirt?) and if you're going to wear $10,000 jewelry why not have your favorite color on it?

> has a miyota movement
> still works

Just buy fakes. Nobody cares about your watch.

>>17542072
What is shit about the movements? They use similar, sometimes the same movements as other brands.

>>17541837
surprisingly based

This watch is totally moronic, why do I like it so much?

>>17542043
the catch is bottom of the barrel seiko movements and ugly dials

>>17542136
The ones with "Air King" on the dial have the older shittier Rolex movements. Also, this line was discontinued VERY quickly after they got rid of "Air King" on the dial so only a few blue ones without the text exist

>>17541837
Apple Watch and Casio chads stay winning. Though I have both plus an Eco Drive and I am counting down the days til I die.

>>17541837
I'm already married with a Rolex. Why would I care what strangers think of my watch?

>>17542128
No it's the shittier brand. You need Royal Orient.

Best place to buy a new Seiko? Looking at this bad boy.

>>17542154
My A.D gives me 30 percent off any seiko sticker price, come fly to fly over country midwest

>>17542144
Your mom is totally moronic. Jump hour watches are based.

>>17542070

>>17542160
Hence why I like them

>>17542159
>30 percent off $275
The cost to travel there and back probably not worth it

>>17542154
As far as I've seen they've got shit metal bracelets.

>>17542154
But they use bottom of the barrel Seiko movements.

>>17541837
i wish i could wrap myself around her wrist and tell her what time it is

>>17542144
Hey what time is it?
>its uhhh almost 11?
yeah but whats the exact time?
>not sure, my watch only has an hour hand.
You paid $30,000 for a watch that only has the hours and the date?
>uh yeah.

>>17542172
That's the hour and minute not the date
Can you at least know what you're talking about before you write anything

>>17542153
royal orient
orient
orient star
orient express
oriental food
I'm confused what the fuck to even look at.

>>17542176
so its 8:54 in that photo?

What kind of retard would pay that much for a basic bitch watch thats kinda ugly?

>>17541887
Nonsense

>>17542187
In your opinion of course
(worthless)

>>17542185
Me when I flip my reverso
>what time is it?
>idk steel

>>17542043
Part SARB part Traska Commuter.

>>17542166
It can't be that bad can it? Not looking for anything to impress CEOs, just a first automatic.
>>17542167
Redpill me on 4r36. At least it's not 7s26 right? Maybe I should look at 6r minimum?

>>17542075
Mahk isn't hiding the fact they are made in China, at least he's honest about it.

>>17542192
Its just like the latest BMWs with the gigantic nostrils that most of the world considers fucking ugly and rich morons who own them say its good because bimmer but even BMW drivers hate them.

Sounds like you're a new BMW owner and everyone says its ugly but you're confident in your luxury purchase because it was expensive with a luxury brand.

(idiot)

I'm tired of waiting for a good watch so I'm just making my own.

It's amazing how many dials you can find out there, and how they're almost all dogshit. Seiko just started remaking this watch, and every one they've made is flawed.

>>17542205
Sounds like you got cut up by a new BMW
(seething)

>>17542209
Man that would be good if it didn't have the features written on the left and right, or whatever a tachymeter is. The see through dial is interesting enough on its own.

>>17542203
4R is OK, but nothing more than that.

>>17542203
7s, 4r, and 6r are basically the same movements. Slightly different features, but same basic architecture and accuracy. They are reliable but it's a piss off when seiko puts them in watches that are $1000

>>17542211
Why would a BMW cut me? are they poorly made and cutting their passengers too?

>>17542128
Don't listen to >>17542153 Orient Star is Orient's high end collection. Royal Orient watches are too difficult to buy to be relevant.

>>17542215
Why are you too stupid to understand synonyms?

>>17542172
Are you hyper retarded?

Any watchmakers here? I have a watch with lug pins that are of the screw type, the sort that you have to hold in place on one end and unscrew from the otherside. What type of screw driver set do you recommend?

The screws are smaller than anything I have on hand so I don’t even know what size flathead is appropriate so I’m hoping to order a set and hoping something works.

>>17542212
Here's one of the new ones. It's almost good, I wouldn't mind taking the dial to use in a different watch. But they dressed it up too much with the lume and shit.

>>17542221
I'd just grab a couple of scrap flatheads and grind them to fit. I bought cheap set of watchmaking screwdrivers years back, they worked alright. Wouldn't bother with the expensive stuff if it isn't your job, if a bit doesn't fit, just sand it down a bit.

Jump hour watches are gigabased.

>>17542217
synonyms are words. You're using made up hoodspeak colloquialisms.

>>17542227
Synonyms can be phrases as well
>Hoodspeak
British English is not hoodpseak you insufferable know-nothing

>>17542222
Yeah I've never been a fan of those circles and ovals trying to copy the rolex diver look.

>>17542222
Waste of quads on seiko

>>17542231
The British don't even speak English. Idiots talking crisps and biscuits and piss none of it makes sense you illiterate chav.

>>17542238
I accept your concession

>>17542072
It's really funny how other companies using Seiko movements have "shit movements" but everyone loves official Seiko watches using literally the same movements.

>>17542238
>The British don't even speak English.
Embarrassing refutation. Just stop posting

>>17542232
They used to be better, I don't know why they switched. My old Seiko diver has rectangles with curves just towards the center, and the triangle at the top is a lot thinner and more sensible.

>>17542213
>>17542214
Good to know, thanks

>>17542222
Looks cool to me

What ever happened to stretchy bracelets?

>>17542214
What movement are they supposed to put in $1000 watches?

>>17542250
Men grew arm hair. And they grew out of fashion, because they tended to fall apart after tearing all your hair out. The modern alternative is those shitty magnet straps, just get a real bracelet.

>>17542252
He doesn't have an answer to that. The only movements above 6R are 8L, and that's basically an undecorated 9S.

>>17542244
I own 2 Seikos and the movement suck. The China ETA clones are far superior for the price

>>17542256
>Men grew arm hair.
Well, now that men are women this is the best time for them to come back, right?

>>17542273
What sucks about them?

>>17542284
presage has a +14 or some garbage

>>17542286
Are we comparing them to other mechanical/automatic watches, or are we comparing them to quartz and smartwatches and smartphones and shit? At the risk of sounding like a pretentious retard, and not that accuracy doesn't matter, but when you choose to wear a mechanical spring loaded watch it's to be expected that you're going to have to do some periodic daily or semidaily TLC to your watch either by setting it or winding it or whatever the case may be. It's to be expected that you're going to lose or gain a few seconds daily. Even the highest end hand fitted watches on earth will routinely lose or gain seconds throughout the day. Being off by anything approaching 10 seconds or less is generally considered to be pretty good. Being upset about that is kind of missing the point. Because, again, you can buy a quartz or digital watch for a fifth of the price that might not lose more than a few seconds a year if absolute time keeping accuracy is your prerogative.

>>17542252
>>17542267
You're right. I dont. Thing is seiko with 6r movements used to be half the price. I just wouldnt by a seiko for that price and go with a swiss shitter with a sellita instead.

>>17542216
>Royal Orient watches are too difficult to buy to be relevant.
WAAHWAAH I CAN'T JUST GO TO THE MALL TO GET A LUXURY WATCH BETTRE THAN ROLEEEEEEEX AWHAHAHAHAHAWAAAAAAAAAA WA MOMMYMOMMY BLOBLOBLBOOOOOOOOO

>>17542350
man, that presage looks amazing on that strap. I'd cop one but I don't really need another dress watch and I think that thing is way too dressy for casual wear

>>17542222
TURD
>>17542209
great

>>17542351
How on earth are they better than rolex?

>>17542366
How are they not?

>>17542368

>>17542368
That's not the worst example I've seen but the power reserve indicator ruins it for me.

>>17542380
El dumbo di palumbo.

>>17541782
looking for a rec on a super poorfag (under $400) "rootbeer" color dive that's 36-40mm. literally do not care about movement or brand. can be a cheap $30 Chinese quartz for all I care, I just like the look and am not a hobbyist or collector

>>17542383
The who of the what?

>>17542383
Literally why do you need a power indicator? Just wearing the watch winds it.

>>17542385
Pagani design is the way to go for premium Chinese shitters
https://aliexpress.us/item/3256804944077049.html
Parnis is less nice but they have a different take on the style.
https://aliexpress.us/item/3256805062661034.html

>>17542385
Nice date window lmoa.

>>17542385
Or wait two months and san martin will have a super nice version of the rootbeer tudor

>>17542408
Why do people like GMT bezels so much? It has to be the least functional bezel type.

>>17541782
>ROLEXROLEXROLEX
Nice attention to detail, i'm impressed.

>>17542359
Thanks man. I think the suede dresses it down enough that it works with fairly casual clothes. I also just said fuck it, it's one of my favorites so I'm just going to wear it and not think about it too much.

>>17542415
Were you expecting the rolex homage to put a dive bezel on a gmt?

>>17542423
I don't see what that has to do with the question.

Planning on buying my first diver, do you guys think a rubber strap or a bracelet is more versatile? i've no reason to ever wear a suit

>>17542472
I like to get watches with bracelets and then swap out the bracelets with nylon or leather straps for normal utilitarian use. Changing them out is simple with simple cheap tools and straps come almost comically cheap in shitloads of colors. Then if you DID decide you're going to wear it with formal dress you can put the bracelet on.

>>17542472
Diver strap

>>17542472
rubber can make you sweat in very warm or active environments, there’s no way to avoid it. also rubber eventually starts to become shiny, which is not a good look.

it’s fine if you’re dealing in wet environments, like diving.

>>17542479
>>17542484
>>17542485
thanks, i guess "diver strap" was the term I was looking for rather than rubber. I won't actually be wearing it diving but I do live somewhere hot.
Tossing up between a turtle and an orient mako or something, just gotta go try a turtle on and see if it wears too big or not.

I love this watch. I've been thinking about getting the gw5000u, but I really love the colours on the face of the 5610. my favourite watch.

>>17542492
They're generally called NATO straps or zulu straps.

>>17542505
Only 2 of many style of strap

>>17542506
What are other good styles of straps?

>>17542059
Yes, goddamn, I need a fucking TIMER. Someone tell casio

>>17542539
Diver, seal, paratrooper, aviator, RAF, Moon, NASA

>>17542141
you were disappointed last thread that noone called it out. In this picture it looks a lot less convincing.

I want an skx007 jdm but I don't want to pay absurd prices. anyone here have one that they would like to gift to me?

Quite possibly the greatest watch of all time so far.

>>17542631

>>17542631
>>17542633
Not even the greatest watch this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQikxCZpb5g

>>17542669
Nice, I can get a Forester as my daily beater and Pitzmann as the luxury option.

>>17542472
i prefer canvas over nato because they don't add height and i want the springbar as a breaking point. the latter being specific to climbing tho. i threw my omeger on the factory rubber and i like it a lot, better than the bracelet for certain

>>17542631
>>17542633
that is a truly beautiful watch

>>17542472
For me, all that matters is comfort, and a nice bracelet is so much more comfortable than a fiddly rubber strap.

>>17542472
always get the factory bracelet there a million good after market rubber straps and if you decide you want the bracelet later it will be way more expensive if you get it by itself.

>>17542225
The chronoswiss delphi is my favorite I wish they still made it

>>17542631
>>17542633
By far my favorite GS and surprisingly one of the very few dress watch in the 5k range that isn't 40mm.

>>17542791
>one of the very few dress watch in the 5k range that isn't 40mm
I really hate this trend. dress watches should be small

>>17542782
Yeah, even if it's a cheap diver and the bracelet is junk, you can usually re-use the end links at least. Fitting an aftermarket bracelet is usually a fucking nightmare, if the case isn't incredibly standard you'll never get one that lines up.

>>17542043
Go away marc you filthy kike faggot

>>17542631
>>17542633
It's a nice watch but i have always found the proportions a bit too bulky. The First is perfect though.

¿Gf bought me my first F91-w, should I marry her?

I think a watch looks better without a visible crown.

>>17541985
yes but the watches stay on...or maybe a little watch swapping during?

>>17542884
Fuck adjusting watches with those stupid inset crowns that basically require you to take the thing off if you want to change the day. I think most crowns these days are too big, it's crazy those grand seikos have a bigger crown than my fucking diver watch, and that's a fucking screw-down.

>>17542503
got the shitter in black and don't know whether it's worth it to the the japanese model or just the gwm5610u because i really only want a better display second time zone and the better date format

my Seiko 5 just arrived. interestingly enough, they sent me the Made in Japan model instead of the slightly cheaper "K" one I bought
thoughts? looking good or a bit boring?

>>17542892
I like the case, but the dial is a bit dull. The date window not lining up is worrying, but maybe it's set at 10PM so it's already ticking over.

I don't like those lume pips on the indices, either. Seiko used to do good looking watches, now they're all missing something.

thoughts on this color combo for a shitter?
>>17542892
pretty snice, I like them with a darker dial but the white is classy

>>17542890
Indeed i have to take it off to set it but i don't mind, it's once every two months for the date and about once or twice a week for the time. It's about 30s a day fast but surprisingly it's been quite accurate lately, i haven't set the time in more than a week and it's still accurate to the minute.

>>17542895
First time i see a Type II with this dial, nice.

>>17542904
They made a bunch of fancy dials, mine is actually a 7546-7000 but I just took the first picture I could find of one. Haven't worn it in about 5 years because I've been wearing a diver instead and I can't go back to day/date. Just pulled it out to look at it, it's running 6 minutes fast and the battery is low because the second hand is moving two seconds at a time, better pull it out.

>>17541827
Stop making grandpa watches?

>>17542890
>those stupid inset crowns that basically require you to take the thing off if you want to change the day.
I think this is a problem for literally nobody apart from the incurable schizophrenic.

>>17542895
That's a photo I pulled from online actually. I do think it was mid-transition
IRL it has a sunburst effect to the dial which makes it a bit less boring. Doesn't show up in photos well though for some reason
Anyway seems like a practical versatile watch, I'll sleep on it and think if I should keep it or send it back. It's cheap but I don't like clutter
My problem is I only really like dress watches but thought I needed a more casual option. This is the sportiest I'd go probably. If I return it I'll either grab some slightly higher tier Seiko or a Junghans

>>17542891
that black colour is disgusting. get the gwm5610u it's clearly the best.

them new long jeans spritz choreographs look damn good

>>17542931
>17mm thick
LMAO, nvm

>By the time I'm wealthy enough to afford a Rolex I'll be a pathetic middle aged man who really shouldn't be wearing a Rolex.
At least I'll have the taste and presence of mind to get a day date to match my blotchy skin instead of some Hypebeast thing.

>>17542935
more like 18mm

>>17542935
>it's real
who the fuck buys 17mm thick watch?

>>17542953
Fat people? Same reason they keep making 45mm dinnerplates. There's some monkey brain "big and heavy = manly" shit going on, I imagine they've focus tested men and they instinctively think the bigger watch is more manly.

>>17542926
i like that the display actually blends in with the rest but the legibility suffers more from the inverted display than i expected

>>17542368
>>17542380
I've never seen someone say that ilked a power indicator on a watch. Never. Never even seen someone been neutral about it. They always say that it would've looked better without it. So why do so many watches still have it? Just confuses me honestly.

>>17542965
some of the minimalist ones actually look better with a power indicator

>>17542965
I like the one on the reverse of some Credor watches, far nicer place to put it where it would be actually useful, because the only time you want to check the power level is when the watch isn't being worn.

>>17542967
i actually like the way it looks in some of nomos

>>17542967
cool design but why the fuck is it not centered?

>>17542970
yeah Nomos designs just look better with some complications thrown in there. IDK why people hype up the basic Orion model so much, it's ugly and boring

>>17542971
to be quirky and balance out their logo a little bit I guess

>>17542963
I get that fatties want large watches because a 36mm would look ridiculous on a 22cm fat wrist, but THICC watches are beyond retarded. They're impractical and uncomfortable as fuck.

>>17542976
That ruins it for me.

>>17542977
Why do people like that even bother accesorizing. Or if you need a watch for utillity get a fucking G-shock bitch. Americans and Chinks are ruining watches for the rest of us.

>>17542981
And yes the Japanese are included in the Chink category.

>>17542977
Don't ask me, I don't know why anyone would want a watch over 10mm thick, or a strap over 3mm thick. Bulky looks more "manly".

>>17542963
>expensive watches are mostly bought by fat 40 year old midlife crisis guys
really puts all the 45mm hockey pucks into perspective

>>17542931
Honestly I understand more and more the appeal of vintage watches.
Pic related is a Longines chronograph from the 60s. It moggs the shit out of that modern monstrosity.

>>17542963
It' more about having random people around you know you're packing a $400 "expensive watch".

In the current hyper-materialistic world you have to project you wealth (whether real or not) to strangers around you. In the old days you only bought a nice watch to impress yourself, a male Rolex or King Seiko or whatever could have been 34-36mm, because it was meant for mostly the owner to admire it.

To some extent Grand Seikos are still like that. They're unassuming even from a personal distance, but up close on your wrist you see the insane craftsmanship. the "Holy Trinity" used to be like that too, but nowadays they're just a box to tick on the list of possessions adrenochrome-vampires need to have.

>>17542965
I like seeing them, but it's true that it's easy to fuck the placement of them up.

>>17542971
Breaking symmetry can be nice.

Where do I search for vintage Omega's in 2023? I'd like to throw one on a decent leather band. Prefer 38mm.

>>17543017
>Breaking symmetry can be nice.
in this case it just looks like a production error

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmdJyxzOg6U
r8 his shitters /wt/

>>17542967
i used to own this model. sold it because the lack of quick date change, otherwise it was a neat design.

the case finishing was pretty average though, so if anyone wants zaratsu tier finishing, nomos is definitely not the brand to get.

>>17543056
>quick date change
Are there really people who care about this shit?

>>17542994
I love vintage watches as well. the domed crystals and smaller proportions especially. it's a big plus that you can often get them so cheap too (though service costs can vary, but it's not too bad for the more common movements). and it's just fun to wear a piece of history on your wrist, something that's probably been on a few different hands already

>>17543059
I can see it being a major pain in the ass if you have to move the hour hand around twice to change the date. Say I haven't worn the watch in a couple weeks and have to sit there spinning the tiny crown for 5 minutes, thats an annoyance every time I wear that specific watch.

That said I don't have any watches without a quick change other than my F91, but you have to set the date once for the life of the battery.

>>17543059
if you don't happen to wear your watch at the end of the month and you end up needing to turn the crown 31+ times just to set the date can become a pain.

>>17543062
Ah, I thought quick date change meant the date flipping over right at midnight, not the ability to turn the crown and change the date instantly. Crazy that a watch that expensive lacks such basic functionality, you're right. I'd be alright with it on a perpetual calendar, I guess.

>my trusty G7900 is no more
>went wind surfing with it, idk band may have cracked and it's lost in thr depths of the ocean now

Garmin Forerunner 245 or Casio G900? Both have comparable prices

Pic: my old watch. Shitter has been sitting gon my wrist for 12 years of daily use.

>>17543060
Sure, but I would love it if brands like Omega or Longines made 1:1 reeditions of their vintage watches. Basically what VC is doing with their Historiques collection.

>>17543067
Theres surprisingly a lot of ultra-expensive watches that lack basic functionality of way cheaper watches and its so confusing. Like great, your chamfered edges in the movement that nobody will ever see might be spectacular, but you can't even change the date without sitting there and spinning the crown for 5 minutes?

>>17543074
Seems like the whole movement was just designed to be as thin as possible, so they cut everything possible out.

>>17543076
>cut everything possible out
Except the seconds complication, date, power reserve and its not even that thin.

>>17543074
don't forget the fact that many of them don't even have hacking... and the servicing costs can be through the roof

>>17543073
I think we might be getting closer to a vintage style revival. seems like there have been more small releases lately and vintage inspired watches like that one Baltic have been pretty hyped

>>17543081
Nobody actually cares about hacking. Thats a watch nerd whiz-bang feature that accomplishes nothing.

>>17542974
The only Orion that does anything for me is this one.

>>17543083
>Thats a watch nerd whiz-bang feature
Yeah, my 20 dollar NH36 is really whiz-bang.

>>17542935
How can they not make chronographs slimmer? It's not like it's impossible.

>>17543086
it does something for me too, but it ain't positivity

>>17543093
The Long jeans is less than 5k. That Bulgari is 20k.

>>17543086
>those lugs

>>17543086
at least they tried with the markers here
the normal Orion just looks like a generic 20$ fashion watch... with huge lugs that look like shit

>>17543100
So are thinner sheets of metal that more expensive or what?

>>17543102
>>17543106
I tried a nomos IRL and the lugs were surprisingly not bad. Though I wore this model, looks terrible in photos but was surprised how good it looked on wrist. Still didn't buy it though, the nomos meme anon made here made me never want to own one.

>>17543117
No but the manufacturing of movements that thin is a lot of work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4WHiDXCQxI

>>17542916
I have this watch too. It wears much better on a leather strap. Ditch the bracelet right away. It’s a pretty nice beater imo and looks better than the new Seiko 5s or a presage imo.

I was bored so I've made this.
>inb4 "REEEEE TOO MANY ROLEX"
Yes.
>inb4 "REEEEE RICHARD MILLE AREN'T ICONIC"
You can recognize them immediately, so yes they are
>inb4 "REEEEE NO SEIKO"
Yeah well Seikos all look generic.
>inb4 "REEEEE YOU FORGOT MY WATCH"
It probably isn't iconic.
>inb4 "REEEEE NOBODY CARES ANYWAY"
Okay fine.

You guys still not bought yourself a fake 1016?

>>17543183
>No FPJ, literally the most important alive watchmaker in the world

>>17543183
if i asked chatgpt for a list of watches that are the most popular with reddit and writers at hodinkee, this would be it

>>17543183
This is so so shit. How is the GMT master iconic at all? Or the Explorer or Richard Mille

>>17543196
>>17543197

>>17543183
I'll give you the sub, Daytona (at a push), Speedmaster, Casio, Datejust and the Cartier. They rest aren't iconic.

>>17543205
They all are iconic for at least 3 of these 5 reasons
>you can recognize them in less than half a second
>they brought something new to the table (tech wise or design wise)
>they're popular icons
>they're best sellers
>they're the most discussed watches on social medias/Youtube/whatever
The only one that comes to my mind that deserves to be on that list is the Apple Watch.
Whether you like them or not isn't the point (I personally hate at least half of these).

>>17543205
How is the Reverso not an icon

>>17543093
>I want a watch movement with a chronograph complication on top of that an automatic complication on top of that and a date complication on the other side with a moonphase and a GMT hand
>BAAAAAAH WHY ARE MODERN WATCHES SO THIIIIIIICK
Take the handwindpill, nigga.

>>17542829
What is your complaint? Is it the "bottom of the barrel Seiko movements" again? Considering this has almost become a Seiko advertising thread at this point, Seiko movements can't be all that bad. And Island offers a number of watches in the same price point as Seiko with the same movements but they actually have nice features like fuckin sapphire and screw down crowns. I like Seiko watches but it drives me fucking crazy how much of their shit has mineral crystals on it.
>JUST REPLACE IT WITH A SAPPHIRE CRYSTAL THO!
No, I'm not fixing a company's product for them.

>>17542997
>In the old days you only bought a nice watch to impress yourself
You don't actually believe this, do you? There's nothing new under the sun, kid. The reason brands like Rolex have prestige now is because they earned the prestige over 100 years ago. They were almost always a flex, at least within our grandparents lifetime.

>>17543017
Maybe it's because you're cool with asymmetry? When I look at a watch that has a hand pointing from the edge of the face directly inward at the hour and minute hands, maybe directly at me, it kind of triggers me. Everything about the design of clock faces is generally based on starting in the middle and moving outwards, so putting in a feature that breaks that flow is weird to me. It's bad feng shui. Not to mention the other issue that was brought up before, that it's a totally useless feature on an automatic watch. Even if you looked at it and it was getting low all you have to do to give it some winds is get up and refill your coffee or prepare your lunch or something, something you were probably already planning on doing because you most likely checked your watch to see if it was time to do something yet.

>>17543258
i'm not that anon but my problem with seiko is that they are milking those mid tier movements far too much. putting 6r's in $2,000 watches for example, which is insane. but seiko fans keep buying them so they'll never change.

unless there's an 8L in it, i don't ever want to see a new seiko being sold for more than $500-$600, and at the $500 range there are so many options that offer ETA/Sellita movements that are far better value.

>>17543275
Aren't those turds hand-wind only? A power indicator is pretty useful then.

>>17543284
Eh.... Maybe? You wake up in the morning, wind your watch and set the time, then unless something is very wrong with your watch you should be good until the next morning. Most watches have well in excess of 24 hours power reserve, nearly double that in fact.

>>17543283
At the end of the day it doesn't really matter that much, accuracy is overrated.

>>17543296
I guess it all depends on your routine. I can understand it more on a hand-wind only, at least.

Hello

>>17543306
ZAMN red tide destroying florida

>>17541837
Apple "watches" or any kind of connected watch is nothing but NPC shit. Efficient, reliable? My ass.

>>17543296
>>17543284
Maybe they're like the dummy lights on your car - they only exist to tell you your shit's broke.

>>17543297
>accuracy is overrated.
sounds like a massive cope

>>17543306
I can't see shit, anon, take a better pic please.

>>17543310
They are, thought? It's the same exact kind of shit that almost killed mechanical watches, the newer electronic shit is more accurate and hands free than the winding shit can ever be, and it can do way more stuff, and it's cheaper. That's why most people would never in their wildest dreams ever consider buying a high end watch like a Rolex, because literal gas station watches keep better time and cost almost nothing. Or they'll just look at their phone which keeps time accurately by itself without any contribution from you. Those normies are the ones approaching the issue reasonably, actually. "Real" watches are basically a hobby or fashion statement at this point. There's no reason to do it at all anymore beyond liking watches.

>>17543215
I genuinely didn't recognize the Mille shitter. Should have really put a Lange One on there instead, or that F P Journe watch everyone creams themselves over. Or even a Snowflake or Max Bill

>>17543312
Its important but definitely overrated. The difference between +- 15 seconds a month and +-2 seconds a year will never be noticed by anyone wearing the watch without expensive special equipment to measure it.

>>17543297
personally i care very much about accuracy. paying more than $500 for a watch that would lose more than 10 minutes per month is not something i would do, but seiko people seem to have no problem with it.

>>17543320
i use my watch every day to clock in by the second and my rolex is the only non quartz one that i can rely on for it

>>17543320
>+- 15 seconds a month
6r is rated for +25 seconds per day. people often get better performance by pure luck, but for Seiko to still be guaranteeing those specs in 2023 is a joke.

>>17543320
Not really
>Sync watch to your phone time in the morning
>It's 10 seconds out of sync with all digital clocks by bedtime
If you actually pay attention it's easy to see, whether the difference is 10 seconds or 20 seconds or 2 seconds a day. You don't need any special anything, literally just your phone clock turning before your watch tells you you lost time. The question is how much that matters to you. Psychologically a lot of people believe it does, but practically speaking it very rarely actually has an impact on anything you're doing. Even if you had the shittiest watch on earth that lost 2 seconds an hour, is walking in to work 2-4 seconds later than you thought going to get you fired? Probably not.

>>17543325
Oh shut up. Your employer does not care when you clock in or out by the second. Its just you trying to get a 'free' 59 seconds added to your lunch break, wagie.

>>17543326
I'll be honest I've never looked up on the accuracy specs on my SNKL43 and probably never will unless I start noticing its like 5 minutes off. Even still I'd have to do a sanity check and see if that cheap am/fm alarm clock is off, is the clock on the wall off because a low battery, is my stove clock wrong because its a piece of shit (it is) has my computer decided its going to be wrong, how can I tell if an internet site is telling the most accurate time? How can time be real if our eyes aren't real?

Again, if you're just super into benchracing stat sheets I guess thats your thing but in reality its all bullshit that isn't measured by much other than atomic clocks which are now considered obsolete by most.

>>17543325
>he owns a rolex
>he “clocks in”
L M A O probably shouldn’t be buying a rolex at this stage in your life wagie

>>17543326
That's just a generous guarantee that they'll stand by. It's not the actual standard. Even the lower end seikos and other watches using their movements commonly get better than +- 10 seconds a day.

>>17543336
Rolex is the watch of the middle class, I make $200k a year.

>>17543326
>6r is rated for +25 seconds per day. people often get better performance by pure luck
It's not hard to regulate them to 10 seconds per day. A better movement might get a slightly better rating out of the factory, but honestly, if you're expecting accuracy from an automatic you're a retard.

>>17543336
most Rawlecks owners are suburbanites who live in tech hubs, own a low end BMW and a 3 bedroom house. You didn't fall for the all Rolex owners are millionaires meme did you anon? hahahaha

>>17543336
>he thinks a $5000 product is an exclusive club
oh no no no no HAHAHAHA anon... rolex isn't Patek or A lange

>>17543338
$200k a year isn't middle class, and nobody "clocking in by the second" is making $200k a year.

>>17543354
$200k is middle class in America. Do you live in a third world shithole? Managers and Salarymen still clock in anon...

>>17543338
>>17543343
>>17543352
Yeah, many poor people are also stupid. Rolex customers included.

If you’re buying a Rolex and your net worth is less than a few million, I don’t know what to tell you.

You probably can’t be helped.

>>17543354
>$200,000 in a tech hub isn't middle class
Holy fuck we have ACTUAL poorfriends running amok HAHAHAHAHA. Entry level engineers making 100k-200k still have to clock in or managers will be up their ass.

>>17543333
>it's easy to see, whether the difference is 10 seconds or 20 seconds or 2 seconds a day.
I still disagree with you because you're saying your cell phone clock is 100% accurate no matter what which just isn't true. It has its own internal clock and checks another quartz clock timer with the cell network which you have zero clue if those are accurate or not.

>is walking in to work 2-4 seconds later than you thought going to get you fired? Probably not
Again, reinforcing my point that nobody actually lives or dies by the accuracy of their watch or cell phone clock making the measurement nearly pointless.

>>17543361
I’ve never clocked in for a job in my life and I’ve made between $60K starting out and $450K now.

What job do you work in with a punch clock?

>>17543360
>don't purchase a $6000 product if your networth is below $1,000,000
Are you really just this bad with finances that even making six figures you can't handle a luxury purchase? Do you rent as well? hahahha

>>17543205
the monaco was in breaking bad so its iconic

>>17543337
>generous guarantee that they'll stand by. It's not the actual standard
then that's lazy and it's even worse. it shows seiko just doesn't care, same as it's customers i guess.

like i said, if i'm spending $1000+ on a watch i am not going to opt for something that is spec'd to +25 per day.

everyone laughs at rolex and omega for multiple reasons but those companies standing by and guaranteeing around +/- 1 minute per month on their movements for however many hundreds of thousands if not millions of watches they produce per year is wildly more impressive and perhaps even better value than seiko selling a watch for $2000 and saying "i hope yours is better than +25spd good luck lmao".

>>17543183
>recognize them immediately
I genuinely cannot distinguish any rolex from any other generic dress watch or diver or chronograph or whatever. Maybe it's because everyone else is an imitator, maybe it's because there just isn't that much you can do visually with a watch, but without reading the name and logo on the dial I could never be sure I was looking at a genuine Rolex or a clone or one of the many Tudor/Davosa/Seiko/Islander/third world knockoffs of various quality and price point that look almost exactly like them.

Also most of the others I would never recognize beyond "oh, it's one of those ugly square watches."

>>17543365
I work as a systems security analyst and the clock in system is there so people know I'm there if anything goes haywire. It's quite literally setting myself online in Slack.

>>17543366
My wife and I will be retiring from traditional work at age 32 and 30. I’d say we’re pretty good with our finances.

Luxury purchases ware for when you have a paid-off home and an investment portfolio big enough to support your living expenses forever.

Luxury purchases before that point are one of the many reasons why so many people remain trapped in the wagie class.

>>17543341
>It's not hard to regulate them
i don't want to do Seiko's job for them.

>>17543358
>$200k is middle class in America.
You're just wrong. It might be middle class in liberal shitholes like california, hawaii, new york, and other places that nobody actually wants to live in. You know, liberal hellscapes where the nannystate wants to know the exact second you clock in because someone cried and felt missing 12 seconds on their paycheck wasn't fair because they couldn't afford rent without it. lol, lmao even. Pretending to flex but is living below the poverty line for that state.

>Entry level engineers making 100k-200k still have to clock in or managers will be up their ass.
No they don't, maybe if your manager is named Pajeet Sindurthy and he just hates you for being white and wants to hire his cousin so he's got his fist in your ass all day hoping you'll quit.

>>17543377
>other places no one wants to live in
You mean rural bumfuck opioid America? The place with 1/3rd the population and industries as the cities? LOL, nice larp hillbilly

>>17543377
If those places are shitholes, why do the people earning enough to live anywhere in the country always seem to choose those exact cities?

Hm… who could say?

>>17543375
>ware
esl moment

>>17543375
no no no anon, you and your wife should be setting fire to large sums of money, just stay in debt in order to impress idiots on /wt/.

>>17543383
lol exactly

>>17543383
>he assumes everyone is in debt
actual poortard projection

>>17543381
Also a puzzler why those places lost significant population numbers willing to take pay cuts to move out. Its probably because they found another liberal mecca they wanted to live I guess. oh wait.

>>17543385
With your $200k hourly wage job, is your house paid off, are you putting 15% of your income into retirement and other investments, are you completely debt free, are you saving money for your kids college?

>>17543386
>lost a significant population
of boomer retirees, yeah. young people are still graduating from college and going to financial hubs while rural tards are still od'ing on opioids and freaking out over qanon and jerking off to ben garrison comics all day

>>17543362
What the fuck do you think the cell network is referencing? Do you also distrust radio control watches? To a point I understand being skeptical and double checking the facts and all that, but sometimes you can follow that down a rabbit hole of "well, how do you know they're right? Because they asked THEM? and how do you know THEY are right? And how does THEIR source know THEY are right!?" At some point you just have to set your watch to something and at least if a lot of people are referencing the same time from the same source we can come to an agreement on what time it is even if it's not 1000% accurate. For all practical purposes as long as your phone or computer syncs time from the internet it's as accurate as you're ever going to get.

no one has posted a watch in over 40 posts

>>17543388
lol. You really think its just boomers fleeing liberal shitholes and moving to the middle of nowhere to retire? Sounds like you're deluding yourself in believing $3000 a month to rent a closet is the superior lifestyle all because you can walk to the bar and get 3 different kinds of onions tacos.

>>17543388
B A S E D
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>>17543381
Because those people have the money for armed security when most others do not? It's the same reason wealthy liberals love gun control, because they believe it will never hurt them and will only keep them safer when their armed security doesn't have to defend them from other armed people.

>>17543391
this is how actual poor people think
$3K per month for an apartment really isn’t very much when you have a good job.

That’s 6% of my household income.

>>17543391
Yes, boomers are moving from Cali NYC to places like Florida and Texas. Go check the census

>>17543388
>young people are still graduating from college
With worthless degrees that have nothing to do with their career that they'll avoid paying loans for while voting for people to take the debt away from them, sure.

>>17543394

New York is safer than most of the rest of the country you mouthbreathing Fox News watcher

https://www.bloomberg .com/opinion/articles/2022-06-07/is-new-york-city-more-dangerous-than-rural-america

>>17543398
LOL a stem or finance degrees is a free six figure job right out the bat even from a poorfag public college. Go get your GED Cletus

>>17543399
My girlfriend's family lives in New York and almost every time we stay with them we hear gun shots and sirens. Back home in suburban PA we never have that beyond the occasional 1 round someone takes on a deer during the deer hunting seasons. My grandparents literally left their doors unlocked most of the day and night for all of my life, meanwhile my girlfriend's family had their house robbed numerous times. But go ahead and keep coping with your bullshit internet articles, retard.

>>17543395
>$3K per month for an apartment really isn’t very much when you have a good job.
$3k going into a bottomless pit to own exactly nothing. Just set your cash on fire and exclaim how you're not in debt. Got it. And calling it household income for gross and not net is a common insecurity. One day you'll get tired of giving your money to someone else and trying to flex with your income going to exactly nothing.

>>17543404
>suburban pa
oh you're a hillbilly that browses pol and got upset when trump lost and will get upset when he loses again, gotcha

>>17543406
you can mortgage condos retard, i know you haven't check because your credit score is that bad though

>>17543322
Well i guess it's about priorities. My daily (Seiko) is almost 60 years old now so i can't really expect any sort of meaningful accuracy from it and i got used to it pretty quickly.

>>17543410
I have $20k left to pay on my mortgage and I don't have neighbors literally touching my house or dues owed to the building owner or HOA like you. It also isn't a fucking condo lol. I actually own the building I live in along with its grass, picket fence, and the roof. You bought some space in someone else's building. We are not the same.

Only a few more posts until a new thread :)

>>17543326
>by pure luck
Oh cmon, most are probably under 10s a day.

>>17543406
> $3k going into a bottomless pit to own exactly nothing
Wow your rural education really let you down anon. Did you know that you can build a financial model to compare the cost of renting and owning? Here’s a hint: you don’t just compare the monthly rent to your monthly mortgage payment.

New York is actually one of the cities where it makes the most sense to rent rather than buy. Just run the numbers, it’s not that hard if you got a proper education.

Also my wife and I own. It probably wasn’t the best decision from a pure financial standpoint, we bought for lifestyle reasons.

But get this: if you own a few million dollars worth of shares in active businesses, you don’t own nothing. You own shares in businesses. They make money and give it to you.

Maybe you should have left your bumfuck nowhere town and actually gotten an education, it might have helped you keep up on these sorts of things.

>>17543413
My HoA covers power, internet, security, elevator, bellhop, heating, cleaning. I already own my condo and paid it off months ago. I'm glad we're not the same because you live in poorfag rural Pennsylvania next to a bunch of other hillbillies and fat boomers LOL

>>17543406
> giving your money to someone else and trying to flex with your income going to exactly nothing.
Are you stupid? You give your money to someone else in exchange for a share of their company. And then they pay you income to fund your lifestyle expenses.

Do you know what happens to the $50 per month you put in your 401k or do you think it just disappears?

>>17543376
Nobody is going to regulate millions of Seikos every year, anon.

Friendly reminder that this is a watch thread and not a wealth thread.

>>17543407
That's a lot of fucking assumptions to make off of someone wanting to live in a safe society and not be robbed. I just want to wear $5000 in watches and jewelry and electronics, legally concealed carry a $1000 handgun for self defense, and have everyone else feel safe in doing the same. Is that too much to ask? Because I get all of that here as a working class guy whereas New Yorkers like my girlfriend are literally afraid to wear real jewelry. She's only just getting over the trauma of years of living in New York to where she'll wear real gold and diamonds I buy her in public without trying to cover them up. That might sound like a joke, but it isn't.

>>17543415
>New York is actually one of the cities where it makes the most sense to rent rather than buy.
Good goy, you will own nothing and be happy.
>Also my wife and I own. It probably wasn’t the best decision from a pure financial standpoint, we bought for lifestyle reasons.
By your own logic and reasoning you're bad with money? Woah.
Just keep throwing your money away, its kinda funny with your smug sense of stupidity.

>>17543418
No, YOU cover all that shit. You're the one paying them rent, sorry, dues every month for all that. You're living in a hotel with other morons that will get to 65 wondering why they're broke and trying to sell their vintage 2020's Rolex to the next generation.

>>17543426
lol

>>17543426
>ALL I WANNA DO IS CARRY MY GUN IN SUBWAY WITH MY PUNISHER LOGO TATTOO
lol

>>17543415
>New York is actually one of the cities where it makes the most sense to rent rather than buy.
Anyone with actual sense would just move out of New York if they could.
>t. has a 6 figure job AND rent less than $1k

>>17543427
You do know that you can always sell a condo for the cost back, right? My HoA dues are 582 a month...you're probably paying more for "neighbourhood watch" kek

>>17543427
Why do i have a feeling you’re going to be clocking in to your job at age 66.5?

I’m retiring in 11 months at age 32 my friend. Not sure how I’ve been throwing my money away if my investment income comfortably supports my lifestyle.

>>17543431
This but unironically.

There is more roleplaying in this thread than there is on /trash/

>>17543436
>I’m retiring in 11 months at age 32 my friend.
No you're not. We're all RPing here but yours is just unbelievable.

im retiring at 28 because this thread is so cringe it gave me braindamage and i shit myself thus live in a nursing home now

>>17543435
>"neighbourhood watch"
how to say you're a canadian without saying you're canadian. Let me guess, Chinoronto, or chinkouver? Imagine bragging about HoA dues more than some peoples mortgages and car payments.

>>17543449
i live in atlanta i immigrated

>>17543431
Is there something actually wrong with carrying a handgun, anon? Personally I see watches and guns going hand in hand as EDC gear along with fashion, as what you're wearing where you're going can have a big effect on what watch you wear and which gun you carry and which holster you use, etc...

>>17543452
You have to go back.

>>17543445
We work in finance and consulting and we don’t plan to have kids.
I’ve been reading about and planning for financial independence since I was 21.

You can do it if you plan for it. Most people don’t, they just get a bonus and buy themselves a Rolex.

>>17543445
Nice to know that my financial situation is so enviable to you that you literally can’t believe it though.

What did the crypto kids say in 2021? Oh yeah, HFSP.

>>17543457
nope

>>17543458
>We work in finance and consulting and we don’t plan to have kids.
I can't imagine a more meaningless existence that will contribute nothing to the earth.

>>17543257

move thread this thread sucks and talk about watches

>>17543458
>>17543461
One of you is lying.

>>17543464
Pretty easy to make meaning when you don’t need a job from 32 onward and you can devote your life to any pursuit you find meaningful.

NEW THREAD
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>>17543469
>>Pretty easy to make meaning when you don’t need a job from 32 onward and you can devote your life to any pursuit you find meaningful.
Sounds like you've wasted the best years of your life, I feel bad for you. Wifey will soon start complaining about not having anything to do and demand you give her some kids.

I'm 32, I have under 3k in the bank, and I've never worked a day in my life. Every day is fantastic, hope you don't kill yourself after you get bored of going on holiday and your wife leaves you because you don't have the same priorities anymore.

>>17543477
How would I have wasted my life? I probably saw more of the world last year alone than you have in your entire life.

>>17543487
You can SEE the world on youtube. You didn't do shit for the world but bullshit your ass off in meetings and consume. You didn't even participate in the next generation.

>>17542787
You still can pick one, somewhat cheap, in the second hand msrket.

>>17543069
casio g9300-1 or g9100

New Thread.
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