/fa/ - Fashion

But which one?

>>17466914
>Whiskey is out in my size
Fuck

These things are heavy asf

>>17466937
Goth Ronald McDonald
Goth Ronald McDonald

>>17466932
Bottom left

Why do people call Red Wings clown shoes?

>>17466944
It's the toe cap + bump toe.
It looks no where near as bad IRL as it does when you're taking close-up pictures of it, though. 5+ feet away it looks like a regular boot as opposed to taking oblique honk honk photos of it.

Whites has the same problem IIRC. Beautiful boot, feels like heaven, absolute clown shoe lasts if you look at them objectively.

>>17466944
Bulbous toe

>>17466937

>>17466963
God forbid you have some toe room

>>17466968
Someone a while back put it bluntly:
You either have clownshoes that feel good, or you have good looking shoes that feel like shit. Thus is the curse of the clown-footed.
I think this came up when someone bought a 2030 and it was too tight for him even though it's technically an E. The height reduction pinches your toes if you're clown-footed. But the 2040 is way overpriced for what it is: a bump-toe service boot like all the others. Yet it will easily fit any foot with comfort.

>>17466937
Do they help your clown routine

god I don't want to pay $800 for a pair of boots. even if they are the "Best casual/work boots ever made"

>>17466997
then don't
pic: best casual/work boot ever made

I know modern clarks are considered shit, but are the old made in england desert boots decent?

>>17466914
>Manufacturer Red Flags
>Sustainable
Sorry for being a newfag to these threads, but can someone explain this one to me?

Also, what are some good European brands?

>>17467035
>>Also, what are some good European brands?
depends on your budget

>>17467035
"Sustainable" doesn't belong to shoes the same way "Vegan" doesn't belong to chicken; if it has it on a label, you know you're in for some fake shit.

I like Carmina, C&J, Yanko, Crown Northampton, if you're fucking rich look into Edward Green.

>>17466997
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0

>>17466938
>>17466967
>>17466991
Poorfag cope

>>17467104
Man, you really look like a clown version of workwear.

>>17467035
You have to understand what sustainable really means for clothing and shoes manufacturers. Usually cheap recycled materials with a lot of cost-cutting practices that hurt the construction quality but has no impact on price.

>>17467104
take your boots off the furniture faggot

>>17467104
Put your dad's clothes back

I want a pair of these.
I like how fuzzy they look.

>>17467168
roughout is great

>>17467139
I'll put your dad's clothes back as soon as I'm finished fucking your mom

imagine subjecting yourself to the whites welt with none of the quality lmao

>>17466968
Correct. You have to make sacrifices for fashion.

Scotch grain is hideous
>just let me emboss this fugly hives diseased skin pattern on my shoes senpai
It's corrected leather lmao.
No one even makes real scotchgrain anymore; it's all this cheap machine embossed crap. And it was only used to hide poor quality hides.
Faggots screech about corrected grain and then go cream themselves over some scotchgrain.
Disgusting.

>>17467168
touch the fuzzy boot

Bro I can get all real leather formiga boots for under 80brl (15 dollas) on the local construction store, no need to take care of them.

>>17467168
>>17467180
Are these harder to maintain?

Is 1.8mm-2.0mm leather too thin for picrel? (Synthetic lining but might ask for no lining at all.) Thinking of getting them but was worried about that.

(Krapert 640 from )

>>17467313
from Argentina*

>>17467312
no. roughout is done to make the boot more resistant to scuffs and abrasion. The fibers on the outside will simply brush back into position.
The downside is that it's harder to get oil out, and because it's the soft fibers out, it's easier for something pointy to begin puncturing the boot, whereas the smooth-out boots, that same pointy bit might just slide off and leave a nasty scratch.

There is no perfect boot, but I love roughout anyway.

>>17467313
2mm is perfectly thick. Those look like 100 USD boots anyway, so they'll only last you a year of hard wear, or maybe 3-4 of regular wear.
The point of cheap boots is that, if they fail, you can buy another. As long as they don't fail you while you're out in the boonies or up on a mountain it's fiiine.

>>17467321
>>17467321
Yeah they're like $60 actually. Not really a matter of money tho, but the only other brown 8inchers made in Argentina are ridiculously overbuilt for my use cases. You think I should get the 60$ ones with steel toes or nah? (not really sure how cheap leather breaks when it does)

>>17466914
>>17467311
Come on guys, pic related was pretty much ten dollars, and even came in different colors at the store. Lets be less gay together and stop spending like a dumb whore.

>>17467323
>>17467323
The only reason to get steel toes is if you think you think there's a dropping hazard. Something will be dropped on your feet.
You work in an environment with cranes? Yeah, something can drop.

But steel toes suck to walk in.

>>17466955
Am I a retard for wanting my copper r&t Iron Rangers to look like that
should I darken them or get a new pair?

>>17467387
>Am I a retard for wanting my copper r&t Iron Rangers to look like that
yes and sadly many look like that because its babbys first boot and most of them get overconditioned

>>17467387
Yes because you should have bought amber if you wanted them to look like this.

>>17467104
/fa/ fears this

>>17467387
Mine are Amber Harness and while I love how tgey aged, sonetimes I wish I'd gotten copper r&t. Oh well...

>>17467328
He's right you know. Nobody is going to know your boots are $600 and they would probably think less of you if they did.

>You spent $600 for a designer brand """"dress"""" boot because it "Feels good" except you could have spent $200 on a sneaker that feels good and $100 at most on a work boot that's acceptable quality and got the best of both worlds

>>17467407
six dollar tube of shoe goo

>>17467387
>Am I a retard for wanting my copper r&t Iron Rangers to look like that
Well yeah because that's Amber Harness, not R&T
You should relish your R&T and not want it looking like a different pair of boots

>He thinks he needs more than $600 jumper boots
Explain why

>>17467489
u-tip jumper boots in suede, watch me.

>>17467492
>They actually look really nice
damn

>>17467495
>tobacco
very nice, i went with snuff for my latest carmina MTO. I hate choosing suede without seeing it irl.

>>17467489
>>17467495
Only reason to pay more than Carmina is a leather heel stiffener, otherwise their shoes are near perfect
As far as Spanish makers go, only TLB does this right but they have nowhere near the variety of Carmina

Reminder

I'd have ordered it but the last only comes in F width and honestly I have too many boots already

I think if you get at least 6 participants, Bonafe will do custom widths for each GMTO member, but only if the last actually has different widths. This one doesn't.

>>17467104
based

>>17467407
anon told me this doesnt happen so stop posting doctored images

>>17467482
>$200 on a sneaker

>>17467104
Christ they're ugly

>>17467312
not at all, easier to maintain to smooth

>>17467407

>>17467482
>$200 on a sneaker that feels good
maybe for the first couple months then the poron collapses

What is considered normal foot ball circumference? i once wanted to get custom boots and the guy said my feet were too wide (30cm circumference)

>>17467407

>>17467800
I guess it depends on length right?

My feet are 28x11 and I'm considered wide
Not sure what my circumfence is, probably like 26-27?

I was going to order a suede derby for every day wear at work and maybe occasionally out of work too but honestly derbies just look bad to me, except split toe derbies but that's a whole other beast

I'm tempted to just say fuck it, these are for work only, always with a button down shirt - and just get a suede oxford instead. Oxfords look so much cleaner.

>>17467813
oof i do not like the pointed cap toe

>>17467817
I'd go for a rounded last obviously

>>17467807
length is 29.5

>>17467823
was referring to this

SEXOOOOOOOOOO

>>17467830
Oh right
I was thinking a normal adelaide, not the weird one

>>17467104
Are the soles known to yellow on these? I had a dream where I was wearing transparent sole derbies, immediately checked to see if they were real and bottega veneta are the only brand that comes close.
However, I want them to yellow more, not be blueish

>>17467871
Yeah. Just leave them in the sun.

>>17467813
Take the chukkapill my man, fits in both the office and for free time

>>17466981
Viberg is a fashion boot brand. The 2030 was designed to only for looks despite being called a service boot.

>>17467035
Crockett and Jones
Edward Green
You can't beat those.

>>17467813
Seconding the chukkapill. Don't look like a snooty clown and instead get something that shows you're comfortable with your work environment.

>>17463644
>Red Wing is like the Apple of the boot world.
Nah, not even close.
I would elect Viberg to be the Apple of the boot world.

>Very iconic design that everyone copied
>Has its own little ecosystem
>Crazy expensive, even for bespoke tastes
>Even on sale it's hundreds more than regular 'good' footwear full price
>has its own little community who love taking pictures of themselves using it
>Straight and simple to the point, when you buy it, you already get a no-holds barred boot right out of the box with little need for customization
>Whose quality can also be found just as good from cheaper footwear made by hand elsewhere if the audience had bothered to wait a little bit for manufacturing, taken some time to wait for a sale, or simply set simpler expectations

A true rich snob's boot. Worse it's pretending to be an everyman's boot. Kind of like what Macfags do.

Red Wing is more like the Lenovo or Thinkpad of the boot world, does what is expected, probably still overpriced unless you get it used, won't break the bank and is at the 'sane' limit for footwear. What it does can be replicated by cement construction commercial garbage if expectations are set accordingly.

>>17467965
>>Very iconic design that everyone copied
who copied them in Europe? I had to get Vibergs because in Europe no bootmakers made something similar apart from Carmina (no last thats close to 2030) and Yanko (shit last).
Maybe bonafe has some SB design and a fitting last but i don't know much about bonafe.

>>17467986
Yanko and Berwick.

>>17467986
It's not just a matter of last
The Viberg service boot has very wide open facings for example, and stitchdown construction with absurdly tight stitch density.
European makers don't even do stitchdown at all, and makers that machine stitch the outsoles (even handwelted ones like Bonafe) simply can't replicate the Viberg look.

>>17468008
I know EG, C&J and Cheaney do veldt boots, although only EG does them for MTO i believe and they don't have anything resembling the Service Boot anyway. Crown Northampton exclusively uses stitchdown i think? But they only sell Chukkas and Sneakers

>>17467965
yeah. the coloring book confirmed it

>>17468008
Nu Viberg high SPI is ugly IMO. Their old sole SPI was better.

Are there shoe trees fo the 55 last?

>>17468250
Nvm found it.

>>17468147
CAn I get a comparison?

>>17467104
done dd on bv at one point did i consider the design in 2" thick rubber tank sole on a chelsea. but not only did you pick a pair with exaggerated clown like flaring width. you also cheapened the look with gum soles. the wrinkled ass leather is already deforming like basic calf skin.

I must have these, if you can't understand why, then you aren't silly enough

>>17467104
This kills the bootfag autismos.

>>17468327
can I take a guess why

>>17468335
>>17467104
I mean I don't get it, these are just clodhopper shoes, right? I see guys wear them all the time at work when they work in trenches and dirt all day.
Is this some kind of epic own?

>>17468379
peak effay

>>17466914
Hello /boot/, I am looking for recommendations on fits, and specifically pants, that work well with moc toe boots. My family bought me a pair to replace my blown out work boots but I feel like I should be able to make an interesting fit or 2 for them. Worst case I'll just keep them for work.

>>17468327
I like mine better

>>17467181
>Too retarded to understand basic English
Yikes

>>17468431
quality choice, I hope you can truly put a stop to the batman

>>17468429
mocc toes are a working man's boot
wear denim with it, maybe corduroy
some faggot will tell you wool, and wool is great but with euro shoes.
mocc toes are unapologetically American and we don't wear wool trousers

>>17468440
Sounds good, and keeps it easy since that's mostly what I wear anyway.

>>17468431
>moulinyan boot

Just picked up these of Grailed. John Lofgren badalassi leather engineers.

>>17468468
luv engineers

>>17468468
How is the toe room?

>>17468485
Good for me, I’m a 9.5 in sneakers and these are 9D. My feet are average width though.

>>17468491
I've heard that the Lofgrens are hell for people with a moderate or high instep. Any insight?

>>17468496
Ye I’ve heard about this, being that they were pretty broken in, my foot had no issues.

>>17468468
>>17468485
I have a pair of lofgrens. The width sits almost at an E. I have a D width foot and I definitely have more than enough room in the boot. If I wear thick wool socks it is usually perfect fit, but i definitely slip a little bit in the boot if I wear regular darn tough or smart wool socks.

>>17468468
damn those look beat

>>17467001
>this looks good but maybe not as well-built as the more expensive ones. is the silhouette slim?

>>17466937
>>17467104
my first time coming to this board and I actually thought people really wear this shit until I read the replies

>>17468559
They are very well-built, and the silhouette is extremely slim. They were the go-to boot here for a while for a slim boot.
I've heard nothing but praise for them. They just fell out of discussion as things here tend to go in cycles.

>>17468559
>not as well-built as the more expensive ones
OSB makes a perfectly solid boot, they just don't have the variety of White's, bergs, or truman's, be it the last choices or the leather choices.
Better QC than Truman's at least.

>>17468582
Oh yeah, that's kind of the only complaint I would have
They make a few boots, they make them very well, they only make those boots and those boots only come with a few custom features. I think it was only recently they offered different sole options.

>>17466914
I'm going to some Solovair boots, should I get the standard 8 derby boots or the 7 eye monkey boots?

>>17468706
I think the monkey boots bit better than these, but I don't know if they're as versatile.

Just got new boots and already looking into what i'm buying next. I must consoooom.

I'm looking into a black cuban heel chelsea/zip. I'm 184cm though and don't wanna appear ridiculously tall compared to when I don't wear them, how common are 4.5cm cuban heels?

>>17468714
you have to be very thin and very gay to pull these off

>>17468708
These look like shit. Get the monkeys

>>17468252

>>17468714
>>17468751
Staple British tradition. Wear with a slick black suit.

>>17468714
This was a Glam/Mod thing back in 70s 80s London.
Weird that people associate it with twink today.

>>17468886
Oh thanks, Anon delivers
The old ones are on the right, yeah? I guess I can kind of see why the SPI being as high as it is makes it look kind of 'weird'. Both of these boots have aged beautifully, though.

Do you guys like this suede color?

>>17469121
Beautiful suede. Don't do what I did and get Suede in a color that looks unnatural or only good with a certain shade of clothes. Penny loafers should be the most unassuming part of your fit. If you notice them, they're the wrong color.

>>17469121
I prefer darker brown. Eyeing some suede belgian loafers, still hesitating if it's too trad for my style.

>>17469143
It's Skoak's GMTO for February
https://www.skoaktiebolaget.com/collections/gmtos/products/gmto-enzo-bonafe-suede-penny-loafers-50-deposit

I like them and I know this last fits me but I do not like the single leather sole
Maybe in rich countries where the pavements are all perfect but in my shithole you never know what you're going to be stepping on, I really feel better having rubber soles

>>17469143
What color suede did you get?

I have Carmina tobacco suede and Alden snuff suede and I feel snuff is way more versatile, I was actually surprised how good it looks with light color pants like white/off-white.

>>17468886
high SPI is the biggest meme that boot pseudointellectuals latched onto as a marker for quality
realistically it adds absolutely nothing structurally, but even the most minor unevenness that would be unnoticable on a lower SPI welt looks so glaring
also vibergs fake captoes look like a phimosis dick thanks to the giant creaseline where the vamp ends underneath the cap toe

I ordered these Grenson's not too long ago and they just arrived. I thought I ordered about the right size from UK to US measurements, ordered slightly smaller. But I'm noticing they are slightly loose, heel keeps slipping by an inch everytime I take a step, along with my toes not reaching the very front. These are my first pair of boots, so I wanted to ask if I should buy some kind of pads, I'd rather not have to return them.

>>17468706
>>17468708

>>17469197
The easy fix would be to just wear thicker wool socks with them

But a small amount of heel slip is sometimes normal with good year welted shoes, it takes a bit of time for the footbed to sink and the leather around the heel to change shape

idk if the heel slip for you is a little bit or a lot though

also did you try lacing them tighter? for me bar lacing doesn't really tighten much, only X lacing can be very tight.

how do i find cowboy boots that fit me

i have big feet and thrift stores never have any that fit

>>17469197
Return them, do not bother trying

>>17469199
yikes

>>17469197
more pics?
the fred is the only half decent affordable brogue

>>17469195
High SPI only makes sense with dress style and single sole.

Brett lost the plot after coming back form Europe. He think piping, small eyelets, high SPI make the Service Boots into an actual dress boots.

>>17469203
The heel slip isn't too major, like half to at most an inch. It's enough for me to notice and be slightly thrown off when walking, I haven't laced them tighter yet, it might work.
>>17469208
Which is why I don't really want to return them yet.
>>17469210
They are Freds, I could post some more pics though in a little bit.

>>17469076
This was a biker/cop thing back in 50s 60s America.
Weird that people associate it with homosex today.

>>17469145
it does feel very preppy, doesn't it?

>>17469197
Toes aren't supposed to touch in boots. The hard leather at the front will mash them up when walking down inclines. Lace-to-toe exists for this reason: lets you get the right tightness across the instep to prevent you slipping all the way forward inside the boot.

>>17469228
you got me.

I've been wearing my C&J conistons for a while now, really loving them. If you're looking into the brand I think they're definitely worth the effort even if you can't get em locally.

>>17468886
right definitely looks better

>>17469294
325 is a great last, fits me similar and almost as good as EG 72.

damn

>>17469233
Maybe the deerskin ones are more casual. I want a loafer but most of the designs don't appeal to me aside from the belgian.

>>17469154
>What color suede did you get?
I got the burgundy suede that AE was selling on a deal a month or so back. Size wasn't right, so I returned it. In hindsight I dodged a bullet. Tobacco or plain brown is a far better color for loafers.

>>17469228
Thank the Village People

>>17469197
try thick wool socks first, then wool socks plus pads. if that doesn't solve your issue cut losses

>>17469432
In the same boat, but that is a slick looking loafer.

WEW good opportunity for all the poors complaining about White's prices

https://shop.whitesboots.com/closeout/

>>17469457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwB_Mrnwr_8
It was already laced with homoerotic energy.
>I love you John!
>teases his trophy's head

>>17469475
Everything I'm interested in is already sold out, unless I should buy suedes.

>>17469475
I got a sizing question, 8D in Red Wing fits my foot perfectly, how would it do in the MP last?

>>17469475
>Can't select anything
why?

>>17469502
cause its sold out?

>>17469503
Fug.
Everything is sold out, then. When did this sale start?

>>17469505
An hour ago.

>>17469506
god damn
I should have expected that, though.

>>17469506
not true. I saw a mention of it when I was at work but it sounded like it was sold out then too

>>17469513
Is it usually this bad around the Father's day sale?

>>17469525
I dont think so because that's less of a closeout and more of a genuine sale

/fa/ I need your advice. A pair of boots I want to buy is in either French size 47 and 48. I'm exactly a size US 13. On their website they convert a 47 to a US 12.5 and a 48 to a US 13.5. But if you look online all of the conversion websites say is that a EU size 47 is equal to a US 13.

So what is it? What do you recommend I do? Go with the size 47 or 48? Thanks.

>>17467035
It's typical sperg talk. Basically they will tell you they are "cheaply made" due to the materials yet at the same time tell you to not to wear your super high quality leather boots daily and to wipe them down when someone breathes on them

>>17469553
This. "Sustainable" is a manufacturer green flag for me. Thesus and Lanius are both great about stocking cruelty-free boots too.

>>17469559
Im gay and love being fucked in the ass btw

>>17469561
At no point in typing your post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

>>17469553
>to not to wear your super high quality leather boots daily
do it if you want just don't be surprised if they don't last you basically a lifetime if you would have taken proper care of them.
>wipe them down when someone breathes on them
you can keep all the scuffs and scratches you want, there is no benefit to buffing them out other than appearance. You should still give them a brush at least every now and then to remove dirt and dust.

>>17469563
spee pls go

>forester
>foresters have been using white's for over a hundred years
>random office workers now purchase white's to get coffee
not even hating i think it's funny
anyone who wears white's mogs other bootlets

>>17469600
I wear mine at concerts so I can win mosh pits

what boots is good to wear in the snow?

>>17469723
i use these, but i am not working or walking in the snow all the time. if you need something heavier they make proper lace up boots.

https://schnees.com/montana-ii-adv/

>>17469553
>>17469559
Cool strawman. Pleather isn't a viable boot material and I'm sorry you got suckered into paying full price for it because you wanted to be 'green'.

>Cruelty free
AKA I spent just as much you did and got bonded """leather""" in return that I really can't breathe on or they'll fall apart.

>>17469723
The beans always win

>>17469553
>Basically they will tell you they are "cheaply made" due to the materials
Because they are
>yet at the same time tell you to not to wear your super high quality leather boots daily and to wipe them down when someone breathes on them
This is a choice. You are allowed to have boots that get wet, get poorly treated, some of them even look better after they've been treated like dirt. This is the autistic sperging of people who spend $600 on a boot, but not a requirement.

Meanwhile you buy fake leather boots and they fall apart in a year or after they take a stiff blow. If you're going to do that, why buy "good" boots at all? Cement constructed boots are way cheaper, entirely synthetic. Georgia boots are ~60 dollars and are only cruel against fashion and plastic. Meanwhile you spend eight times that much for a "Cruelty free" boot that you can't resole anyway because it would destroy the faux leather if you did.

>>17469746
>regular 6" bean boot in the snow
fuck no.
A) it isn't tall enough
B) only the rubber is water proof
C)It's not even lined.

They make the 10" lined boot for exactly this reason, and I would still opine that you want a full rubber layer if you plan to wade through snow.

>>17469199
and yet despite all that they're still better than MiE docs
just stop buying cheap plastic booties of any brand

>>17469723

>>17469846
honestly this
best part abou tthese is you can wear them over your dress boots/chukkas and take them off at the entrance to your office.

>>17466937
HONK HONK

>>17467407
Imagine buying "boots" that have a cemented sole

>>17467104
What model are those, and are they wide toe box?

>>17469860
Tons of room for me senpai but YMMV. I recommend wearing ultra super extra thick socks AND an extra thick insole. At least that's what I have to do.

>>17469873

>>17469545
Which boots?

>>17468751
saw a guy wear these in a air conditioned store he wiped sweat off his brow with his shirt hem for some reason.

Can anyone recommend a good slim boot that doesn't have a large toe box? I feel like a lot of boots have a clown rounded toe box like pic related.

I live in Tokyo - any good local independent shoe makers? Or should I just get Iron Rangers?
>boots :^|
>boots, JAPAN :^O

>>17469964
>I live in Tokyo - any good local independent shoe makers?
Nah, the only good traditional shoes you'll find in Japan are pic related.
They don't like leather boots over there.
Just buy timbs

>>17469967
I'm trying to replace my 8 year old timbs.
Original sole gave out, replacements just keep coming off, had it reapplied done by two different cobblers already.

>>17469968
I was teasin/bullying/meme-ing you.
Japan and especially Tokyo has some of the best US-style bootmakers in the world.
Rolling dub trio, Clinch, White Kloud, John Lofgren (no joke), Atractions, etc. etc.

They're handmade and therefore expensive, but Japan has the highest density of high-end bootmakers in the world probably.

>>17469917
There are like three brands with wide toe box you moron, the vast majority are slim styles.

>>17469964
> any good local independent shoe makers?
lots, just expensive. You can also look into english shoe makers like C&J & Tricker's, they have a big following in Japan and might be cheaper. Tricker's even has a store there.

>>17469545
just ask them for insoles length. still dont get it why arent companies stating it, when its the most important unit in sizing

>>17469992
Carmina gives you insole length when talking to CS for sizing advice, extremely useful. Too bad it was a pain to get insole length from other makers for boots that fit me.

>>17469860
Normal toe box. These are Bottega tyre boots

>>17469964
Check Mercari, lots of great deals on used boots kept in great condition since Japan.

>Got in on the Stones sale happening
>Stones arrived today
>Try them on
>Fit is fine but something seems off about them
>Take two steps
>weird squelch/squeaking sound coming from the not-dainite studded sole
>The leather immediately starts to show signs of the worst kind of creasing
This isn't normal, right? My IRs are about the same price range(Not accounting for the sale) and they don't have any of these problems.

>>17470273
can we get pictures?

>>17470308
There isn't much to see, just a tiny start of a crease right on the ball of the foot. This would be fine after like, a week of walking, but this was two steps

>>17470322
my brother in christ are you complaing about what you think is going to happen?

>>17470273
The squeak may not be coming from the outsole, but rather internal leather parts like a midsole rubbing against things. If it's that it'll stop when worn in. If it's just squeaky rubber outsole, then you're SOL enjoy your child safety booties that squeal when you walk lmao

>>17470336
>f it's just squeaky rubber outsole, then you're SOL
I mean literally touch grass and get thes lightest bit of texture on the surface and its fixed

>>17470338
>implying that anon will actually walk anywhere with his booties cept pacing back and forth on a carpet in front of the mirror in his hikineet room

>>17470273
Dainite squeaks on hard surfaces like marble, I hate it
If you think the squeak is coming from elsewhere, it might be the tongue against the sides. A little renovateur will fix it.
Otherwise it might be an insole or sock liner that's moving around, normally should have some adhesive.

Last resort is if they forgot to add the thin strip of (???) between the various leather layers of the sole that is meant to stop the squeaking. Only way to fix that is a rebuild.

>>17470332
I just don't get why it's beginning to crease after like, two steps. I've worn my IRs outside in the rain and the mud, no creases. If it's not that big of a deal, then I won't worry about it.
>>17470336
>>17470338
Great point, I may be too judgy about it. I don't own dainite shoes so Idk.
>>17470357
>If you think the squeak is coming from elsewhere, it might be the tongue against the sides. A little renovateur will fix it.
I'll give it a try, but I think it is due to my hard flooring.
>>17470342
Of course I'll walk somewhere, I have to walk to the parking lot to take a picture to post here.

>>17470366
>'ve worn my IRs outside in the rain and the mud, no creases
pics of both

>>17470273
the squeak/squench is probably from the leather midsole rubbing with the rubber outsole, as for creasing it is a plain toe

How do you decide what boot size you wear? On the Brannock Device, I'm exactly 10, but size up to 10.5 for sneakers.

Should I get the exact size, size up from 10, or should I size down?

>>17470419
It depends on the brand, but I would go to a store a try a 10 on assuming it is true to size.

>>17470419
the brannock is merely a point of reference, it depends on the manufacturer

>>17470419
The Brannock device is US sizes right?
Most makers use UK sizes

I have never used a brannock device but my length puts me somewhere between US11 and US11.5 on it

On most of my welted shoes I am a UK10.5
I own a single pair in US size and it's a US11 and it fits me great

>>17470460
>Most makers use UK sizes

>>17470476
Why are you booing me?
I'm right

America is only one country and only has like 4-5 shoemakers worth noting

Here's something you don't see often. These boots were made between 1988 and 1993 by a now defunct American shoe making company called Stuart McGuire. Found this pair on eBay, all I've done to them is clean, condition and polish.
To be blunt, Stuart McGuire was (for the time) a very middle of the road shoe company, absolutely nothing special. That's what makes these boots surprising, they are pretty much equal in quality to modern offerings from much higher level/established bootmakers.

The leather is thick but supple, feels great on my feet. I'm shocked at how comfortable these boots are on, there's no problem spots. Arch support is superb, the last is a little wide but that works for me. I'm between a 12D and 12E on Brannock, these are a 12D and I can last them nice and tight without feeling like they are too narrow. Length wise is perfect, and the height is good so I can wiggle my toes a little but not feel loose. Heel is fantastic, no slipping. Soles are vibram, some of the stitching is frayed but otherwise the sole is in great shape, with how infrequently I'll wear this it will be years before I'll have to take them to a cobbler. I do need to replace the laces, these are the original and they're a little dingy.

The only downside to these boots are the number of eyelets. 10 eyelets, no speed hooks. I've never seen this system before, I have to thread the lace through these short brass tubes. It doesn't take too long and it feels very supportive once it's laced up.
I'm not a boot expert by any means. I've got Allen Edmonds, Chippewa 1939,Grant Stone, Red Wing, Thorogood, Dan Post, a couple of pair of vintage Florsheim as well. If this boot was handed to me in brand new condition today I'd have zero issue paying current Red Wing prices for it. Really happy I stumbled across it.
Here's some more pics of the boots

https://imgur.com/a/y8pScKr

>>17470489
And here is a pair of oxfords made from leather that was created in Russia in 1786.

The ship carrying the leather sank and was recovered a few decades ago. It was covered by mud so the leather was salvaged.
Stefano Bemer had enough leather to make about 10 pairs of shoes in 2015, and about 5 more in 2018.
I suppose they must all be gone by now, although he said he wouldn't sell the last pair for less than $100k.

>>17470501
Holy shit that's actually really cool.
I wouldn't want to wear a pair of $100k shoes even if I could afford them, it would be like wearing and ruining a piece of art. Beautiful leather though.

luv me leather counters

got fitted for my white's today. i am sorry guys, i wanted to get pictures of them making the shoes but they keep the windows into the shop closed now. for anyone curious it's a 30 week lead time on a custom order.

>>17470524

>>17470524
30 weeks?

Bonafe quotes 16 weeks for MTO but I got mine in about 9
Carmina sent my MTO boots in about 2 months as well

Fastest turnaround is definitely TLB, about 10 days for a custom order.

>>17467871
They don't yellow, they just get darker. No real color change. They become less transparent and more opaque

Are there any shoe makers that make RTW monk straps with medallions that can ship to the USA ?

I can only find a pair form Tallsem.

>>17470576
> monk straps with medallions

>>17470489
Addendum: Is there a name for that style of boot? Not talking the model from SMG, just the overall style. They aren't quite a combat boot or a standard work boot IMHO, and I'd like to find a pair like this in black.

>>17470581
lace to toe

>>17469967
What is the point of these seriously? Why are they shaped like that?

Sorry for the retarded newfag question but what kind of jeans would go well with pic related? I know they look kinda ugly yeah.

>>17470585
Oh so they're monkey boots? Ok that helps,thanks anon!

>>17470592

>>17469206
Measure your foot, reference the sizing charts on cowboy boot sites, check eBay and see if there are any of the brand that you'd like to buy to just test out the fit.

>>17470592
I want you to stop and think about this for a second. Think real hard about your question, and then think about whether a shitty pic of the back of a boot that looks like it fell out of a Payless truck is the best visual to accompany your question

>>17470593
monkey boots extend the lacing beyond even further

>>17469206
Dan Post, buy on Amazon. Wide size selection, fast shipping and easy return when the first pair sizing is fucked up. And you will fuck it up.

Once you know your sizing in Dan Post you can say Hey I'm a 13W in DP,what's the equivalent in brand X?

defend this c*lastic fags

>>17470597
>>17470597
Here mate, have a better one.

>>17470609
Christ. I'm going to take this seriously because I want to believe you're trolling but I feel like you genuinely want help with those.

Get a pair of straight leg jeans, think 501. Cover as much of that boot as possible.

>>17470614
Do you really think it's that ugly tho? :(

>>17470615
absolutely fucking disgusting

>>17470501
bad creasing would return

>>17470615
>>17470616
He's right

>>17470489
>>17470501
Please don't use this site as your personal blog

>>17470615
Once again, I'm going to be honest with you: It's so ugly I don't think you should stay here and try and learn or improve. Because right now you're happy and fucking clueless. If you think those boots look good I can guarantee the rest of your wardrobe is suboptimal, but you don't realize it. If you leave now you can convince yourself this was an anomaly and we're just trolling you, but if you stay you're going to have to confront the fact that you look like shit and have no taste, and it's going to take time (but surprisingly not a lot of money) to fix

>>17470615
Anon it's a dark brown boot
It's not ugly
No one will look twice at it

Only us here are very autistic

>>17470615
don't listen to this retard>>17470641

>>17470640
I mean won't argue it looks good, maybe more like >>17470641 said but I understand anons saying it's ugly. However, I usually just wear it when I'm going out to places with art hoes and egirls and they themselves also wear ugly/weird stuff. These boots have little to do with most of the rest of my wardrobe.
>the fact that you look like shit and have no taste
That's some projection right there. Even if it were true, fashion is usually secondary to being muscular (in my experience at least, having gained about 35 lbs of lean mass over the last years) so it doesn't make that much of a difference. In the end I'd rather be ripped and dressing bad than the opposite. Of course being ripped and stylish would be ideal tho.

>>17470627
shut up retard

>>17469873
Lmao not only are you trying to flex with shitty boots that are only $1,400 but they're way too big like everything else you post. I'm pretty sure you're literally just wearing your daddys clothes at this point.

>>17470193
kek, I work in Mercari. I'll have to figure out proper sizing first, which helps by visiting the stores mentioned by these guys
>>17469989
>>17469969
Thanks.

>>17470489
Damm, those look good

size 10 bros parkhurst seconds are all yours

>>17466937
>>17469854
More like høńk høńk

>>17466937
Even though he's coping hard in the thread, hopefully today anon learned a valuable lesson: Just because something is expensive and "good" doesn't mean it looks good on you.

PS I had a pair of those when I was in my early 20s, except they were wellingtons for hazmat work and they somehow looked better on my feet than those things do

what is the most you've spent on a pair of boots? did you feel like it was worth it?

>>17470893
$700 on some White's.
Yes.
They're more comfortable than all the $300 boots I'd bought before, although I do like my Tafts for the funny uppers.
Only thing I wish I'd done differently was flying to Spokane to try their other lasts. Love my 4811 but I don't have anything to compare it to. I think my feet are narrow enough to have done a boot with a pointier toe, or have at least seen how square the 2505 toe really is.
Frye made me want a square toe engineer but I refuse to buy theirs because of the cemented construction (also Frye is a chink company now).

>>17470893
$163
Yes they are worth it.

>>17470988
timbs?

>>17470999
Nah, Jim Green Razorback

>>17471014
Steel toe one.

>>17470893
$380 has been the highest so far, got my Grant Stones are full price. Absolutely worth it, they fit perfectly and the colors are beautiful.

>>17469199
>still posting that lemon some literal slav got years
>too stupid to do an exchange or even contact customer support
>could've gotten a refund or replacement boots with one email
>seethes and posts pics every /bg/ for 4 years instead
Lol, lmao even

>>17470524
yeah, tried to get semi dress shoes and it was a 24 week lead time.

>>17470893
$360
Iron Rangers, new
Yes they were worth it as a boot. No they were not worth it as a purchase. That insane purchase is what put me down the path to being a bootfag and having to own all types of footwear.

>>17470001
>Bottega tyre boots

Do you have hands on knowledge of that brand? I need to wear wide toe footwear, so for boots it is Lems or Danish Duck Feet.

I king of like these.

>>17471027
What colors?

>>17471027
if I knew now what I knew then, I would have bought Grant Stones first and just stuck with them.
They seem like a ~$500 boot for hundreds less.

>>17471063
>I need to wear wide toe footwear
buy some bergs lol

>>17466932
top right

>>17466932
what make are these?

>>17471083
Honestly this but I wouldn't pay full price for them.
Would have been great advice a week ago

>>17471089
Crown Northhampton
https://crownnorthampton.com/en-us/products/woodford-desert-boot-snuff-kudu-suede
I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on it because I do want something for summer months. Summers here are brutal and all-leather fully-lined shoes are going to see maybe a few days of use at most.

Speaking of which
Boot thread
What do you consider to be a 'summer boot' besides chukkas?

>>17471096
>What do you consider to be a 'summer boot' besides chukkas?
I don't own a pair, but I suspect corcoran marauders (get the soft toe) or anything else styled after the jungle boot would do a good job being breathable, what with the climate you're intended to use them in.

More breathable than full-leather boots anyway.

>>17471105
>what with the climate you're intended to use them in.
VERY humid, very hot most of the year. in the ranges of 35C much of the time.
I had considered a set of McRae jungle boots, but I don't want to look like a Vietnam GI larper at work. Not to mention: I'm not walking in a bog with them, they may see rain at most.

Red Wing used to make fabric boots for exactly my use case, but like everything else cool they made, they haven't made them in years.

Which comes back to someone else's suggestion: unlined Suede Chukkas. Kind of the reason they were created was for climates exactly like mine.

>>17470273
here

I take this post back, the boots are fucking great. The creasing is miniscule, almost non-existent and vanishes with a shoe tree. The tan color is making it seems worse than it actually is up-close.
Dainite still squeaking. It sounds and feels like a stud right below the ball of the foot that's grabbing tile and 'springing'.
Want to keep them
But they are expensive and I'm still trying to cope with the fact I spend $280 on footwear, the most i've spent on shoes in my life.

>>17470398
>probably from the leather midsole rubbing with the rubber outsole,
I think it's just one of the studs but I could be wrong.
>as for creasing it is a plain toe
Oh so it's just expected? Is there a correct way to 'care' for it to minimize that besides shoe trees?

>>17471112
You could email naglev and see what they say about their boot. Mostly you're wearing a wool sock which surely breathes well.
Or email Taft and ask what they think of a custom boot without a leather liner.

>>17471124
Taft seems promising with their boot, do they do custom boots?
naglev shoes seem like a good mixture, too.

>>17470802
I've literally posted twice bro, this is my second time reading the thread and it's the same retarded shit as always

>>17471063
I own a pair, I wouldn't say the toebox is especially wide. They look wide because of the shoes but they fit like normal boots. Probably not ideal for you

>>17471136
>>17471063
Because of the soles*

Sorry

>>17471133
They have a TaftxYou tool for custom orders. Very much part of their business model, but it won't let you skip a lining leather. Hence the email. See if they could do no liner, or if it's a structural necessity, if they're willing to do a liner of wool or fabric. Anything that breaths better than calfskin.

>>17471083
>>17471095

I wear the alloy toe version of these for work, or the King Toes series, both from Red Wing. These and a few others are only real choice.

>>17471064
Grey Kudu and "Navy" Chromexcel that's magically navy, turquoise and emerald.

>>17471070
Agreed, they're all anyone needs to get the classic /basic boot model. The trouble is now I'm getting into some weird shit (monkey boots, green shell, indigo roughout) so I'm going to start using Indonesian boot makers. I'm find with that though, $250-600 to get some hand made unique pieces is fine with me

Shell semi dress

>>17471185
>can clearly see where the celastic toe starts

>>17470605
More shoes and boots than just whites boots use celastic.
Why are you trying to hard to push a meme?
Dont want clown boots, dont buy clown boots.

You guis, you haven't steered me wrong before, and need some quick feedback. Anyone have any recent experience with allen edmonds? Looking to go with an all black boot from them, albeit I hear they have been hit or miss lately.

>>17471190
Allen Edmonds has been buy-only-ever-on-sale tier for years now, and even then it's a QC shitshow.

>>17471190
Not worth it for full retail. If it's on sale it's okay if you can inspect it first to be sure you're getting a good boot.
If you order online you're going to get dogshit as all their decent stuff goes to stores and they sell their trash stock online since they're banking on you being too lazy to do a return/exchange

>>17471190
The only old New England bootmaker who's left that's worth a damn is Alden.
Not surprising giving the cost of living around there.

Shell is so weird. These look better than the day I got them. After 10 wears or so (with brushing after every wear) the rough texture on the vamp went away, and they are way more shiny. Is that typical of shell that doesn't have the acrylic coating?

>>17471190
You tell me. Even if you buy them on sale you may get this and have to do a return and reorder - they can't facilitate exchanges. My experience trying to even buy their shoes was so bad I'll never do it again.

>>17470588
They're for keeping your feet off the dirty ground.
The two vertical planks are so close to the middle of the foot in order to allow the foot to go heel-flat-toe when you're walking.

>>17469964
I hear White Cloud is really good.

>>17471243
I was lucky i had an AE store in my city I could go to in person, physically inspect the shoes and decide if they were good or not. Like I said, AEs are good shoes when they're made right, but the problem is usually they aren't
Good lads at the store though, they gave me free shoe trees and they're not bad shoe trees either. Probably a $40 set they threw it for free

>>17471191
>>17471204
>>17471208
>>17471243
Informative replies, really appreciate it. Was going with their second hands for a ~$500 boot marked down from ~700. If any of you see this and don't mind answering, do you have any other recs? Stupid me thought I had researched enough to go with allen edmonds, and obviously this is why I filtered my stupidity here first. If not, no sweat, and thanks for saving me the dunero in the first place.

https://eu.meermin.com/pages/custom-boot-event

anyone thinking about trying it? Never had meermin but 220EUR (after VAT) for a moderate amount of customization sounds like some fun to me. a bit worried about the QC issues though.

>>17471359
horween shell has a +340E upcharge btw, Rocardo +200, their mystery meat shell +110

>>17471117
keep in mind the veg tan leather will age beautifully

>>17471117
>Dainite still squeaking. It sounds and feels like a stud right below the ball of the foot that's grabbing tile and 'springing'.
fucking never going away, not sure if its dainite or viberg but they squeak badly.
>But they are expensive and I'm still trying to cope with the fact I spend $280 on footwear, the most i've spent on shoes in my life.
literally nothing, they will easily last you a decade with good care.

>>17471260
>do you have any other recs?
I find that with several pairs of Vibergs in my life, I no longer need the company of other human beings, or women.

>>17471112
Altama makes a better jungle boot and they have different colors, if you didnt want a vietnam look

>>17471028
Stupid nigger shill that happened in December 2021 so basically onr year ago more or less. Also if you had used your stupid nigger eyes to look at the image and your stupid nigger brain to process the information presented, dumb gorilla nigger, you would have realized that a replacement was received, which was even worse, to the point where a refund was requested after. Stupid ugly nigger newfaggot from reddit. There's a reason soloniggers have their own do not buy categoryin the OP. Lurk more.

where should I buy my boots as an eurofag? rec me some decend brands, I need something under 300$

got a pair of expensive boots as a gift recently, and I've never owned boots.
so my question is how often should I be conditioning it? Is it something I need to do right away? then do once a week? once a month?
and idk what all types of conditioners i'm supposed to use or just 1
help a brother out

>>17471453
that's all I've ever wanted, thanks

>>17471525
French rangers.

>>17471190
Avoid. They've been circling the drain for over a decade. Honestly surprised that people are still even talking about them when I got back into the boot buying market after an absence of about 10 years.
Even the lower tier english makers like Loake 1880, Sanders etc., are better.

>>17471493
Kys europoor faggot. Too fucking stupid to fill out an exchange request for a lemon.

>>17471560
The boots were exchanged you illiterate LITERAL fucking nigger monkey.

>>17471567
Wrong, go back you retarded faggot

>>17466914
What boot design/model is casual enough to be worn daily (hanging out, going out to the mall, work, etc) but is also acceptable in a more formal setting?

Is OP's pic good for that? Thinking of getting something like that but with clean toe like >>17467001

>>17471526
depending on your use once a winter season

>>17471654
White's semi dress

>>17471603
Yes they were retarded reddinigger. It's literally in the image you worthless nigger chimp newfaggot.

>>17471260
If you're okay spending 500 then there are way more options than fucking Allen Edmonds
What specifically are you wanting in a boot? Just black? Any specific styles? Cap toe? Speed hooks? Service boot vs combat boot?
Give us some more info and we can make some recs. 500 is a good spot as there's lot of good options in that range

>>17471667
>Yes they were retarded reddinigger. It's literally in the image you worthless nigger chimp newfaggot.
You have to go back, tourist.

>hurr durr you have to keep exchanging from a shit manufacturer

>>17471718
>>17471718
>>17471718

NEW

>>17471718
>>17471718
>>17471718

>>17470715
Well check out Foot monkey in Tokyo then. They have a few brands that were mentioned. RW, Trickers, Rolling dub, Viberg, Whites and others.

>>17471712
You are wrong. You are a nigger chimp. You are mad.

>>17471028
imagine being this retarded

>>17471654
Look at Yanko or Grant Stone. They're a bit more casual oriented as they tend to be cheaper.

>>17471187
Yeah kinda ruins it

>>17471654
White's semi dress