/fa/ - Fashion

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>>17343247
Because they're constantly cost cutting and making them worse while upping the price. Their cap toe is a fake single layer, they stopped offering the handsewn welt because they claim it's too hard on the employees, they don't offer any kind of customization any more, they don't even stitch the soles on. They're objectively inferior and moving towards just pumping out standard boots to as many people as possible. They're a cheap copy of White's started by a former White's employee, of course people would prefer the original better made boot.

>>17343247
luv whites
'ate nigs
simple as

>>17342395
I think I make more money that you ever will.

>>17343400
based and checked

>>17343294
If it ain't White's it ain't right
t. owns two pairs

Shins hurt after wearing my boots. What could be the cause?

>>17343747
is it too tight around the shin thus squeezing it or maybe it's sliding up and down scratching it?

>>17343747
>If a boot is toe-heavy it can lead to shin splints and sore shins, which in turn forces larger muscles to compensate, causing accelerated fatigue in those muscles as well. This soreness becomes cyclical, resulting in more fatigue, and has the potential to cause serious injuries
Huh. Interesting
Anyone ever experienced that? Was wearing White's MPs and my shins hurt well into the next day

Grant Stone Black Friday sale is up.
20% off carts over $400

>>17343828
>off carts over $400
fek

>>17343828
>>17343835
Fucking scam
20% off only on $400+ but almost all their boots are less than 400 so it's basically tricking you into buying two pairs

>>17343835
>>17343840
yeah I know it was the same last year iirc
all other brand deals should start rolling in soonish

>>17343843
Jewish tricks at it's finest

>>17343186
do these look retarded?
I wanted something in between my vans and golden foxes so I bought a used pair of picrel

>>17343851
I like them to be honest. They are probably ugly, but I do find them charming.

im gonna go ape and buy monkey boots bros

>>17343860
not my problem

>>17343747
I'm guessing the outsole and upper are still stiff and need to be broken in more.

>>17343860
fracap ones look cool

>>17343186
just got some of these am I a boot bro yet

>>17343865
Nah they're 4 year old boots. It was the first time wearing boots this year so my legs were probably adjusting to heavier shoes since White's are fucking tanks. I was wearing Sambas all year before

Did I mess up getting these https://global.danner.com/men/hike/mountain-trail-90th.html
I would swap the laces of course

I dig my Vibergs. However for the prices they charge they should at least have the following:
- Rolled edges
- Leather liner should cover back of speed hooks

Lastly (and personal preference) the gap between the lacing should be closer (< 1”) for a service boot. I am guessing since the majority of their lasts are E width they design their boots to fit flat-footed, skinny ankle hipsters without the facings touching.

>>17343930
Despite all this, their stitching is immaculate and they’re leather selection and choices are awesome. I would definitely buy a shell or another kudu/veg veldt pair even though I’d be overpaying.

Chillin with my Ostriches

>>17343851
ugly with a capital U

>>17344001

>>17344001
that is some odd looking shit right there

>>17344001
>>17344074

Wide square toe cowboy boots are disgusting.

>>17344001
rad

>>17344001
not sex
>>17344098
SEXOO

Yesterday I took a photo of my TLB Goya last >>17342082

This is my Carmina Forest last
This one actually pinches my pinky toe despite being a more rounded and less pointy last than the TLB Goya

I think in the future I will stick with the really wide rounded lasts like Soller or EB's 363Mod.

>>17344150
Don't you just need a bigger size shoe?

>>17344150
I should say, the TLB Goya is an MTO in H-Width
It's a bit too wide

The Carmina Forest is just a normal boot (F-width?)
It's a bit too narrow

I'm talking about width in the ball area here

>>17344154
Possibly yes

I already had Carmina oxfords in the Rain last and they are the proper length
I thought the Forest last would be same length, but it's actually a bit shorter in the same size.
Nobody seems to mention this.

They're not uncomfortable, just a bit annoying.

Anyone bought from Vagabond before? Are they an ok brand?
Looking for a tread/track/chunky sole derby

>>17344154
more of a last issue

>>17344177
The outsole looks terrible, camper's chunky derby are better than this

I can’t help but feel that I’m trying too hard wearing these to the library. Are boots a meme? Everyone early 20s & at my college just wears vans, sneakers etc and I’m wearing fucking cowboy boots in florida. they are comfy though and make me taller

>>17344184
this one?

any other similar brands?

they make the ugliest, most unbalanced "boots" in the business. It cannot be overstated lol

>>17344177
Vagabond, like Bianco, is a normal high street brand.
Relatively cheap, not made to last several years, but if you like the look and price go for it.

>>17344210
Damn those are ugly. What the fuck even is that?

>>17344228
Campy shit

>>17344030
U mirin?
>>17344074
Yeah that's why I bought em, they look strange with the double welt and the square two but for some reason I think they're neat too!
>>17344098
I got another pair of cowboy boots, they're regular round toe in Python
>>17344108
Thanks big fella
>>17344115
;-;

>>17343828
>>17343835
>>17343840
most of them are like $380 so just add a shoe tree or whatever else you need.

>>17344210
Chunky rubber sole black derbies are womens shoes. Only thots and chinese exchange students wear this shit.

>>17344196
they're fucking footwear. nobody but you is thinking about that.

>>17344248
thank you grant stone very cool

>>17344196
They look fine. WTC?

What age are most people here in this thread? Im 20 and want to start wearing boots but i feel they will make me look like a boomer + are way too formal for everyday wear.

>>17344291
wtc?

>>17344307
I’m 20 too
>>17344196

>>17344307
nice datamining fed

>>17344224
>cuffing non selvedge
why are they like this

>>17344340
I own zero jeans and I really cannot tell the difference between selvedge and normal
I feel like if you need to see the red color stripe to spot a diffrence then it wasn't worth the money

>>17344340
I hem my selvedge. Normies don’t know the difference anyway and cuffing is reddit tier.

you vs the guy she tells you not to worry about

>>17344416
fifth avenue?

>>17344416
What am I looking at? just two different pairs of shoes?

>>17344423
Siena (blake stitch) vs Park avenue (gyw)

Trying to figure out which one is the tallest from the heel to upper left back, but it is difficult deciding how to properly scale them relative to each other.
Where should the right hand line be exactly to align them on the horizontal scale?

>>17344426
Left is Enzo Bonafe black captoe with hidden stitching (handwelted)
Right is Allen Edmonds Park Avenue

Quite a difference even between 'high end' shoes

>>17344456
also the one that peaks above everything else is an actual elevator shoe

does anyone have experience with koio boots?

>>17344446
>>17344460
Which one of you is lying

>>17344463
Sounds like trash

>>17344465
Look at the welt. That's signature bonafe.

Actually scratch that, do you think AE is capable of doing stitching like the shoe on the left?

>>17344469
so you have no experience?

what does it mean if a shoe is labeled as vegan?
I wasn't thinking of buying this, but I was just browsing because I was about to buy a used boot that was discontinued.
https://cougarshoes.ca/collections/winter-sneakers/products/steez-nylon-waterproof-sneaker-with-primaloft%C2%AE

>>17344477
It means it has no animal parts, so it's basically all synthetic

>>17344477
It means plastic

>>17344475
>"Luxury" red flag
it's gonna be trash

holy fuck lmao

>>17344475
>500 bucks for blake stitch
>proprietary sole
>Mystery tannery

>>17343237
nice boots.

grant stone sale is so shit i dont even want to buy a pair now
the absolute best you can do is a boot and tree for the price of a pair in earth at around $320
the best you can do on boots is $525 which is still $260 a boot and thats assuming the cheapest possible boot
a 'normal' cart with 2 boots will most likely be $550-650

whack sale

>>17344651
Can't you just buy a belt instead?

>>17344677
it dosent mater
you have to be over $400 so $320 is the best you can do
diesel earth and a belt would be more than just buying the boot and now you have a belt you didnt need
if you wanted to buy multiple boots and were holding out for whatever reason than now is the time but if you just wanted a discounted boot youre fucked

I'm still shopping for a true waterproof boots for rugged & wet terrain
should I just go tactical boots?
if so what brand won't break my wallet?

>>17344716
>true waterproof boots

Can anyone ID these boots? They're on JE website but they're not for sale

>>17344716
Step up senpai

>tfw no museum brown cobblers union boots

>>17344477
it means it's made of plastic or some other bullshit

>>17344651
the "sale" having a minimum 400 dollars is the most retarded shit ever and makes me hate the brand. it's to trick people into buying two pairs, that's all it is. to reach the 400 you either buy two pairs or buy a bunch of bullshit you don't
fuck that i'll just buy a pair full price and be done with it

For me, its the Nicks Americanas

>>17344716
best boots

>>17344747
That shit is absolute fucking garbage. Those fake ass niggers sold their souls the moment it became profitable, and within less than 7 years they will collapse and close their doors. I see JK's, Wesco, Whites and others as the inheritors of their previous customers.

>>17344755
Explain. The Americanas are an inherently superior version of the Iron Rangers in every possible sense. They run for the same price range and have the same lead times that any pair of Whites or Wescos run for, and have comparable and arguably better construction with some of their boots compared to the latter-mentioned companies.

>>17344759
Read me to denounce the Talmud irreversibly.

I will not explain. Their product speaks for itself, no identity or SOUL.

>>17344772
>"omg these boots are the literal fucking worst"
>"Okay, why?"
>"I'm not going to explain"

copped another pair of Vibergs

shots fired

I just ordered my first pair of Mister Lous. What am I in for?

>>17344994
not really
hes shitstiring for engagement
i really dislike that the videos seemed to have gotten less detailed since he started but simply being able to se shit split in 2 is valuable so i tolerate it

>>17344998
what leather?

>>17345021
The black horsehide

>>17344998
Did you know your sizing or go with a custom last?

>>17345066
My brannock is 11.5D. A lot of people suggest sizing the width up and the length down 0.5, so I went with 11E. Seems that people more often than not will have good results doing this

>>17345074
I have a high instep and struggle with slip on boots. I went the custom last route and did the measurement forms for the purple Mr Lous. Didn’t want to gamble with sizing.

>>17345088
Good idea. I typically have never had an issue with fitting into a pair of boots based on my typical 11.5D sizing, so I don't think I'll be too worried. I can always get a refund. What is your brannock size, and whjat size did you end up settling for?

>>17345096
Roughly a 12D brannock with a high instep and arch so arch length is 12.5-13. I usually by all my boots TTS and ignore size down advice with the exception of Whites and now Viberg. Not sure if the custom last option tells you the base size they build off of.

>>17343186
I just won an auction for a pair of used Corcoran jump boots. What am I in for, /fa/bros?

>>17345088
>>17344998
According to Nick's sizing chart I'm a little over a 13 purely in length, but the only Mr Lou available in the leather I wanted was an 11.5 E width.
I took the gamble and turns out it's an absolutely perfect fit. It's seriously the best-fitting leather shoe I've ever owned.
I had to take out the little slip insole though, but I feel like the last is so low for my foot that I probably would've had to do this anyway, even at a larger size.

>>17345197
i dont know man, they're your boots. you tell us

>>17345197
goofy anatomical toebox

>>17345197
Smelly used boots

>>17345569
Imagine

would you? I feel like id be side stepping effayness and landing straight in grandpa-hood. i dont mind it too much desu

>>17345768
the thing is, i have wide feet and i know NB shoes fit in width E. Nothing at Mountain Equipment Coop even fit, everything was too narrow, it was fucked up

>>17344990
Do you live in Turkey anon?
What do customs have to say about $650 boots?

Damn these are sexy

But I own a split toe derby already
And frankly the visible split toe is a mistake in the long run
I should have bought one with a reverse stitch toe

>>17345768
>sneakers
why

>>17345806
I’m a burger not a turkey

I bought a crepe brush from Saphir and I ordered a horsehair brush as well, even though I already have 2, just to see if it's any better than the German ones I bought from Amazon.

It's night and day.

I bought the small one (12cm) and it's light, perfect size to grip properly, very soft, absolutely nothing in common with the Amazon horsehair brushes
It's a little expensive though (32€ for the 12cm version)

So I bought some Saphir insoles

Comparison photo, these are the Vibergs 2030 last on Size 10
I'm normally 9.5 wide so I bought size 10, it feels just a touch too big but overall comfy and it doesn't pinch me in the ball area (my worst area)

>>17345874
This is after inserting the insoles

I bought them in size EU 45 and they are spot on, I can feel just a tiny tiny gap at the very front
I am normally an EU 44 but I thought I better buy a bit bigger and cut them down if necessary, but these are perfect

I haven't walked in them yet but immediately when I put them on I felt a lot more comfy, like my foot went from being a little loose to being secure. I guess they will compress with wear.

>>17345882
Forgot to say, these are Saphir's veg tan leather insoles
It's just a simple flat piece of veg tan leather, no charcoal, no gels, no "anatomic shape", just leather

They're actually more expensive than the other ones, cost like 18€

>>17345874
>>17345882
>>17345888
LMFAO imagine being this guy spending thousand of dollars in boots that doesn't fit and asking in 4chan in all places to receive comments from strangers saying if they fit or not
Literally kys

>>17345906
I didn't ask

>>17345906
...yeah
...imagine

>>17345906
Was just thinking that. What a fucking loser

These things are so fucking heavy

>>17345882
>>17345874
Why are boot fanatics so autistic about sizing? I've noticed this repeatedly

>>17345926
because it's not like sneakers
you kind of need to dial in the fit and when you add normal out of the box discomfort and manufacturers turning sizing into a suggestion then it becomes a big thing
also people prefer different fits and looks. some people want a tighter boot with widely spaced facings and size way down and some want something narower

the real key is to get your ball lined up. not have your toes pinch then tune it with insoles, socks and kilties

>>17345815
Huh? These are boots. They go above the ankles

>>17345926
>fellas is it autistic to want a perfect fit?

>>17346012
If you want perfect fit buy fucking bespoke. Don't order fucking off the rack boots and then go full aspie because they don't have fit your super special feet perfectly

>>17345944
>no welt

I know it's a boot thread but can we talk about creepers or nah? I mean we talk about derbies...

>>17346040
Anon they're $20 insoles, it's not that serious

Bespoke is like $4000+

>>17345874
WTF is your brannock? You should have like an inch of toe room on the 2030.

>>17346080
No clue
My feet are about 28cm long
What does that come out to?

>>17345874
>>17345882
I actually find them to be too snug with my thickest socks on. How long do these insoles last? I might need one for a different pair too.

>>17346091
That’s like ~11 on a Brannock. If a 10 on the 2030 is too roomy then you don’t have a wide foot.

>>17346092
Well it's veg tan leather so I guess they should last a pretty long time

>>17346097
That's odd because when I sent my measurements to TLB they said I'm definitely a 9.5 UK but very wide.
Maybe all my shoes are half a size too short except these Vibergs

They weren't really "too roomy", just a tiny bit off to be honest. Saphir says adding insoles is equivalent to reducing the size by one quarter, no clue where they got that from

>>17346103
sounds like something they just pulled out of their asses

size 7/8 @ taft for 195

>>17344150
what the fuck? How do you wear that shit? It looks like footbinding man

>>17343186
Need sizing advice, please help

So my gf bought me a pair of White's perry boots as a Christmas gift. I'm not allowed to have them yet, but she knows I'm particular about sizing, so she let try them on today. Length was perfect. Left foot fit exactly how I would want, not too snug, not too long.

My right foot however is ever so slightly larger than my left. Length was fine but it felt a little too tight at the widest part of my foot (front ball?) to the point where it felt kind of sore after pacing around the house a bit checking for heel slip.

Will they stretch out with break in so that's not a big deal? Or should I exchange them for an EE width pair? Thanks in advance for any input.

>>17346505
easier to fill excess volume than to try to squeeze room out of a too tight boot

>>17346506
I'll take that as a go to the EE. I think my hesitation is because I've only ever needed a D?

>>17346040
>Made to order is the same as off the rack from a shoe store

>>17346515
Why would you go directly from a d to an ee?

>>17346536
They only make Perry's in D or EE

Laceless?

Looking into my first high end pair of boots. The Viberg 2040s caught my attention. What's the consensus on Viberg and how does it compare in overall build quality compared to the other big names like Wesco, Whites, Nicks?

>>17344307
i was i think 27 when i got into boots and started dress nicer

>>17344747
HONK HONK

>>17346767
More attention to detail than whites or nigs. Quality is about the same as Crockett & Jones benchgrade.

>>17346767
They're a little more refined than Nick's or White's, but the construction is very similar.
The 2040 is the last to get for their service boot, the "regular" 2030/1035 is too flat in the toebox and gives the boot an odd wedge shape in profile.

>>17345768

What model New Balance are those? I've got two pairs of these New Balance 978 light hikers in brown leather with a Gore-Tex lining that I really like but they're long out of production.

>>17345768
>>17346880
>What model New Balance are those?

Found them: New Balance 1400v1 Trail Walker Hiking Boot.

fucking cork, man

>>17346767
i find things are a little more refined on the viberg, SPI cranked up to 11. stitchdown wise its clean but there are areas that are questionable: on the right boot inside track the two rows are practically on top of each other

my only complaint with the viberg is that the shaft is unlined and combined with the softer CXL it feels a little "wobbly" compared to the the whites on the left. overall if you enjoy the firm grip of a boot the white's will do it better. if you're after a softer, most flexible and less break in experience the vibergs will be for you

>important dinner today
>wasn't gonna be able to get my new shoes for today initially
>I just managed to hustle customs and I'll be able to drive there and pick them up in a few hours when they're done processing the package
>I'll have an hour to condition and shine them after
>with the new shoes I'll be able to complete my amazing outfit that will get compliments upon compliments

1 hour is enough! We did it!

>>17346913
Lmao this is straight off of the Truman Instagram

>>17346943
You don't need to condition new boots you braindead faggot

>>17346954
But you should.

>>17344716

>>17346963
No, you shouldn't. Over conditioning is bad for leather, just wear them.

>>17346954
yes you do. who knows how long that leather has been in storage before being made into a boot?
who knows how long that boot has been on a shelf?

>>17347011
But what about what my brother anon said >>17347015? It's not like I'm gonna cake them up in shit. Just one layer renovateur and one layer wax.

Not boots but you know. I think they look good.

>>17345924
No idea if that’s Balenciaga or Dunlop lel
>>17347111
Based position assumer

just got a pair of solovair astronaut boots. looks like the alignment on the left heel is off. would you keep them?

>>17347176
>he didn't listen

How many times did we have to tell you? No I would never keep soloshitters.

>mp is now $700
it's good but it's not that good

>>17347176
you were warned
look at that gross plastic Thursday tier heel
look at that lopsided boot
why didnt you trust us?

>>17347176
Return those shits immediately and buy a pair of Meermins.

>>17347224
>got mine under 500
Let’s gooo

>>17346913
>>17346953
Does not matter. Fuck off to cork general.

I have only worn my boots like 3-4 times in the office but they squeak a lot when I walk, is this something that goes away as they break in?

Weirdly, they squeak more in the morning and as the day goes by they become more quiet

>>17347291
Also this might be a CXL issue because these are my first CXL shoes, and also my first shoes with really thick leather.
All my other ones were dress shoes with thin boxcalf.

>>17347286
>walking on crumbling, unrecognizably deteriorated trash does not matter

>>17347291
And yes, I did Google it.
Came up with this.

>>17347291
could be coming from inside
if it is then you have to ignore it or get it rebuilt

>>17347299
It’s supposed to wear in a you resole it before it deteriorates. It only deteriorates if you don’t take care of you shoes wear the same sweaty fucking pair everyday. Stop being poor and retarded. Buy 2+ pairs to alternate wear and resole them before you wear through the outsole and cork.

>>17347176
Go back to plebbit and follow their advise, they're telling you it's ok and you shouldn't worry about those slight defects, there are many operations done by immigrants so it's to be
expected to receive this kind of defects
Next time follow our advise and stay away from that crooked brand made by and for idiots

>>17347176
fuck no we tried to warn you

>>17347291
sometimes the leather layers rub/friction against each other and make that squeaking noise. they sqeak less as the leather warms up from wear. Whites adds a thin rubber pad between leather layers to alleviate (but it still does a little)

museum calf mexican edition

>>17347472
Well, it doesn't look that bad. Reminds me of a pair of Carlos Santos I have... And for the record, they're not worth it at full price, not even for half the price, they use the hand painted color gimmicks to hide their leathers are trash, after the first wear the color will start wearing off and peeling from the flex points, but the 401 last is comfy

I want a pair of Islays so bad, are they worth it?

>>17347551
i'd say yes if you can get them without dainite

>>17347551
Yes. It’s one of the pairs I wouldn’t hesitate to buy again especially if it gets discontinued.

i swear i saw white's main streets in natty cxl for $250 on their site
now there is nothing but suedes
fuck

small discounts on the new stitchdown models

GYW models now sub 300 (red wing killer)

MPs now sub 600

free merino socks with 300 dollar purchase

Are button boots cool or cringe?

>>17347590
Euro here, why are GYW models cheaper than stitchdown?
Isn't GYW a superior way to build shoes than stitchdown? Easier to resole

>>17347596
Very avant garde, but are you wearing avant garde everyday ?

>>17347596
Cringe

>>17347602
>googles avant garde
...oh
right

>>17347596
cringe to boot novices, too cool for the general population

>>17347601
no stitchdown is superior because the upper is flared out and stitched down plus no cork in stitchdown

>sub 500 for a stitchdown all leather engineer
NOW IS THE TIME ENGINEER BROS

>>17347610
I still prefer monk straps, sorry m8

Supposedly Edward Green has very few people capable of stitching the aprons like this, and it takes years of training before they can do it on customer shoes.

And yet, I still prefer Alden's fake apron on the Indy where it's just decorative stitching on a normal plain toe boot.

>>17347619
>Supposedly Edward Green has very few people capable of stitching the aprons like this
I forgot to attach the image because I'm a bit dumb

can i get a quick run down on boot cleaning and polishing?
how many brushes? what kind of produce, how often?

>>17347636
yes

>>17347636
read the OP>>17343186

>>17347636
For cleaning before/after every wear, I only have two brushes (small sizes)
One horsehair brush and one crepe brush (for suede).

For polishing I have three more horsehair brushes, one for black, one for darker browns/burgundy etc and one for medium/light browns. Since I use these after applying shoe cream they get a bit of color on them and you do not want to mix them up, especially not black on light color shoes.

>>17343186
my whites chore boots just arrived, 12 ee. and they are pretty tight around the bottom part where the laces go. do i return or bear with it, is this part break in- able? everything else feels fine

>>17347654
here? start with changing the lacing to over/under. you can also put some conditioner on them before doing the 2/2/2 break in

2 hours the first day
2x2 hours the next
2x4 hours etc

>>17347661
exactly there and this is before laces are even there. im putting the laces on now.

>>17347291
>they become more quiet
just more wet

>>17347665
this is the over/under i was referring to

>>17347665
What you have is a high instep and not a wide foot

>>17347665
I feel that if they are tight before you even put in the laces then something is def wrong.
If it was too small the first place you'd feel it is the pinky, is it relaxed or all crunched up against the leather?

>>17347679
>you'd feel it is the pinky, is it relaxed or all crunched up against the leather?
my toes are comfortable. the only issue is the instep part like the other anon suggests. which is why im hoping i just have to break this in

>>17347683
Well to be honest, shoes don't really stretch with use, but the footbed does sink in, so this may be the one time where I'd say it will get better with time, but only if you are 100% sure it's the right size otherwise

>>17347689
so, i did the over under trick, looks a bit scuff but the shoe honestly feels normal. the initial tightness might just be me not being used to it.

>>17347683
>i just have to break this in
This.

>>17347695
Also keep in mind feet are fatter in the evening.

My Blundstone boots hurt my knees :(

>>17347732
>sloppy squishy fitting boot with no half sizes only a removable insole is a pain
wow no shit

what method do you guys use to tie your boots

>>17347610
perhaps but its not on a particularly attractive last

>>17347737
Same as on all my dress shoes
I tie them normally except I do a double loop
Laces will never untie then, ever

I love how no one truly knows how many different styles and lasts Enzo Bonafe has, it's all just hearsay

I just saw a photo of a 7 (seven!) eyelet oxford

>>17347739
definitely not as good looking as wescos

opinions on lasts with sharp angles?

>>17347737
Depends on how many eyelets/speedhooks and the style of boot. I use euro straight bar lacing on my UK boots, dress boots, and boots without speedhooks. Display lacing for everything else since it looks the best.

Also, I finally got my tan nubuck handsewn Indy. Looks way better in person than the retailer photos.

>>17347790
Fug

>>17347794
I love the look but not sure what I would wear it with
Very light colored chinos?

>>17347785
Could be uncofortable but they these in particular look amazing

>>17347785
yeah those are cool looking but my food could def never wear them

>>17347811
Basically any colored chino except for black and the same shade of tan.

What do you think of these, Carmina dress boot. Thinking of pulling the trigger but they´re about 500 bucks. Worth the price?

>>17347829
That's an odd color, which one is it?
Carmina has a lot of nice dress boots
Oscar is a very popular last for boots and a lot of people really like it, but it's not super wide.
If the sole is danite I would drop it, hate dainite

Carmina offers a lot of RTW models with a ridgeway (clone) sole, which is very good and rare. Usually other makers only offer it as an MTO if at all.

>>17346505
Here again, so upon further investigation, and measuring of my feet and the boots. It turns out, I got a fucked up pair of White's. The right boot is, in fact, smaller, than the left. Which probably wouldn't be a big deal if my right foot wasn't larger than my left.

>>17347824
>>17347821
It's actually a seamless wholecut, the most difficult shoe to make

No one will ever notice there is no seam, so I guess this is something exclusively for shoe autism

>>17347790
>>17347794
>>17347827
*drops fried chicken grease on your boots*
nothing personell kid

>>17347840
looks the same desu

>>17347862
Nah dude, I measured them and everything. Right boot is almost a quarter of an inch narrower in the toebox

>no E widths on sale
mp last looks to skinny to chance it

Boot manufacturer red flags? I'll start

>luxury
>vegan
>sustainable

>>17347861
I’ve spilled a bunch of stuff including ranch dressing on my suede Aldens. Not difficult to clean especially if they are treated with saphir invulner every now and then. Suede and nubuck are relatively robust and maintenance free.

Has anyone owned a pair of White's main street? How do you like them? They've got some for $250 on their website right now. Seems like a great deal.

>>17347472
holy shit this awful. what the fuck were they thinking?

>>17347983

>>17347853
i cant remember if my wholecuts are seamless or not, ill have to check after work

>>17348023
yiiiiiiiiiiikes

>>17348023
Holy shit

>>17348023
What the fuck!

>>17348023
how do these fucks stay in business

Would you wear Wyatts with a suit?

>>17348188
wouldn't wear wyatts period

>>17348188
Do you find these help you get laid even if the woman realizes what shoes you're wearing?

>>17348188
eww this aint hedi era
>>17348216
yes women love my wyatts and 988z

>>17346322
what are these

>>17348247
taft viking

>>17343186
just got these for $85, my second pair of boots
thoughts on the style? I know golden fox is cheap but it’s fine for a college student and I like my boondockers from them

>>17344998
enjoy the pain, I sold mine cause they were so tight

Hello /fa/gs, can you advice me like 10 quality brands? Global once. Living in shithole so probably more home market oriented brands won’t be available here.

>>17347607
White Kloud, one of the best bootmakers in the world, puts cork in his stitchdowm. Shut the fuck up poor retard.

>>17347601
Neither is superior to the other. For Stitchdown, you trade easy resole for better water resistant. In a factory setting, doing stitchdown takes longer, hence more labor, hence more expensive product.

>one of the best
>puts cork
lmao

Would picrel be alright as a winter beater?
Sorel Carson Six
UPPER: Combination waterproof full grain leather and suede with waterproof canvas shaft. Textile lining. Seam-sealed waterproof construction. Laces are not waterproof.
FOOTBED: Removable die-cut TPU foam with textile topcover.
OUTSOLE: Molded rubber. Rubber welt detail.

>>17348524
I should elaborate
I got the following 4 boots as a cheap winter beater (under 200eur), looking to keep one of them
Are any of these /btg/ approved?
1. Timberland

>>17348528
2. Blundstone

>>17348529
3. Panama Jack
This one's the only one out of them that has leather lining inside and seems to have a sole stitch, maybe a gyw idk

And 4. are the Sorels from >>17348524

>>17348524
>Rubber welt detail
why does a cemented boot need to have a pretend welt?

>>17347339
>Stop being poor and retarded. Buy 2+ pairs to alternate wear and resole them before you wear through the outsole and cork.
Or you can buy a pair of boots without cork and not have to worry about that shit.

>>17348540
Honk Honk
Local snowflake triggered out of his mind after seeing cork in his shoes.

>>17347339
>>17348541
>you can't wear the same boots every day
>you can't sweat in them too much
>you can't get them too wet
>you have to resole them as soon as the soles show any kind of wear
I buy heavy duty boots so I don't have to baby them.

>>17348533
I think you should get the pair you prefer.
Out of the ones posted, I’d go for the Bulndstones purely based on aesthetics.

>>17348560
desu I like the timbs the most, but they might be a bit narrow
the sorels are the most comfortable but seem to have the worst quality
the blundstones are ok but not sure how winter suitable they are
might have to settle for the panama jacks because they seem to have the best mix of comfort and looks, even though the latter ain't great...

>>17348533
LMAO another fake welt and fake stitching on the sole boot

>>17348614
but it goes through to the other side...

>>17348616
here's your goodyearwelt bro (the sole is fucking glued on so the stitch won't matter at all you dunce)

>>17348629
Damn...

>>17347785
>>17347853
very cool but where can I get them?

I HATE SPEED HOOKS I HATE SPEED HOOKS I HATE SPEED HOOKS

>>17348556
Let me guess you probably wear ugly ass Nicks to your office job. You know if you care for them and alternate wear they’ll last longer too right? Or are you just lazy? Even wildland firefighters get 2 pair of Whites. “Heavy Duty” doesn’t mean shit if you don’t care for your kit but it sounds like you’ve never had to that anyway.

I have a craving to buy these boots lads, should I take the plunge?
Think the quality should be good?

>>17348956
Without the cork I wouldn't need to "alternate wear".
Also why are you so butthurt?

>>17348967
You have to alternate wear with any leather. Cork is not the reason.

>>17348972
>Cork is not the reason.
It literally is.
Everything on that boot was still in perfectly fine condition, even the sole.
The only part that had gone to shit was the cork.

>You have to alternate wear with any leather
I've never even heard of this, what an obscenely odd thing to say.

>>17348977
Leather absorbs moisture and deteriorates. Why do you think shoe trees and conditioners/waterproofing exist? To protect the cork?

>>17348985
>Leather absorbs moisture and deteriorates
And yet the leather is in perfectly fine condition while the cork turned to mush.

>>17348987
> dry as fuck
> creased to shit and about to crack
> toe oversprung from not using shoe trees

Totally good condition.

>>17348994
That leather is absolutely fine you schizo.
The cork on the other hand is part crumbled and part liquefied.

>cork hours

>>17348685
These are made by Enzo Bonafe on the 946 last

I don't know how much EB charges for a seamless wholecut, I know some other top tier makers charge over a thousand dollars (extra) over their normal prices for this type of shoe.

>>17348999
>collapsed toe looks like literal stepped-in dogshit

What a fine example proper boot care. I’m so surprised the cork turned to mush.

Double leather sole + topy is the best choice for comfort, low profile, easy resoleability and grip right?

I mean any retard local cobbler can just remove the old topy and add a new one, surely?

>>17349018
>collapsed toe looks
That's not a collapsed toe.

>>17349018
>collapsed toe
breh

Indian and Nigerian comments under high end shoe brands are always a little funny to me

>>17349019
> just remove the old topy

You’d be surprised how many fuck this up. Research your local cobblers because the majority of them will ruin good shoes nowadays. Plus the sole will need to be scuffed to glue the topy so if it hasn’t been worn they’re going to sand the sole to get the glue to bond. Double soles are pretty decent for wear already and will harden as you wear them and compact the grain. I would just wear them and use a good sole guard like the one from saphir.

>>17349027
> Clinch

Overpriced hype brand for skinny asian feet. And that’s coming from somebody who likes some of their offerings. Maybe I’m a bitter big footed gaijin.

>>17349035
More of a White's guy, eh?

>>17349037
Whites is ok. PNW boots are overrated and limited style wise.

>>17349043
The point is leather wears in.
You actually want it to, since that means it's molding to your foot and flexion.

>>17349018
This is literally the opposite of a collapsed toe.

>>17349043
>PNW boots are overrated and limited style wise.
What boots do you like?
Because Euro boots all have pointy toes, which ironically is as stylistically limiting as it gets.

How do you guys take care of your welt edges?
Do you apply shoe polish? Just wax? Leave them be?

For me it's the first thing that looks sloppy, literally have to clean it after every wear. But I have never done anything to my sole edges at all, no product.

>>17349060
Welt edges and midsole edges are (ideally) real leather, so they should be cleaned and conditioned just like the rest of the boot's leather.

>>17349053
Not all Euro lasts are pointy.
The oxford on the right is pointy, but the boot is pretty round

>>17349065
Those are classic Euro pointy toes.

>>17349066
Do you have a top down view of a classic American boot last?

>>17349045
There is a difference between leather wearing in and being continuously over saturated with moisture. With shoe trees and alternate wear it dries at a slower rate as close to its original last shape. The upper, insole, midsole, counters, etc last longer. If you wear the same pair everyday it doesn’t go through that drying process and it damages the leather. Replacing cork is cheap but replacing and restitching insoles and uppers isn’t. Even though a full leather construction boot lasts longer wear-wise you’re shortening that duration by not alternating between pairs negating the advantage over cork. The people who actually wear PNW “work” boots on the job know this and have 2 or more pairs. 2 well cared for pairs will last longer than one abused pair that you will be re-building constantly.

>>17349062
Wait, so do they need renovateur too?
Shit, I got some work to do this weekend.

Also, shouldn't I apply renovateur to the lining too? I just realized that bit is leather too.
Am I dumb

>>17349053
Primarily Euro and classic American boots. I have whites, vibergs, and other stules as well.

>>17349065
Another example, Carmina's Soller last which is one of their widest round lasts
It's only a little bit pointy

>>17349068
>being continuously over saturated with moisture
Leather can handle a lot of moisture.
The leather on these boots for instance: >>17348999
never went anywhere near the limit.

>>17349071
Those are pointy toes.

>>17349019
correct. but sometimes the cobbler can and will fuck it up

>>17349071
those are super pointy

>>17349069
I never thought about treating the lining, but I guess it couldn't hurt if you don't plan on wearing the boots for a while.

>>17343186
Cop for wearing with jeans or not?

>>17349115
>gay sole
>fake plastic welt
>mixed materials upper

>>17349071
>>17349065
OK so I found a top down photo of the "55 last"
One is Whites the other one is Nicks, not sure which

It is really round, I didn't think American boots would be this round.
Now I see what you mean when you say Euro boots are pointy.

>>17349068
The same level of use and moisture that destroyed the cork, gave the rest of the boot (upper, sole, ...) some mild wear.

>>17349176
I also found this topdown photo of the Viberg 2030, which looks really good to me and not unlike some Euro boots

It is also surprisingly very round

Fucking blueowl just removed the discounts on Viberg, I was about to cop a pair, gg on those who got a pair on sale. Are still worth it at around 700 USD? Viberg uses a business model with fomo in mind so everyone runs to buy them

>>17349247
get White's instead

>>17349249
I don't like them, they might be higher quality than most things but I don't like how those look

>>17349088
Leather can only “handle” moisture when it can dry properly after being exposed. If it dries too fast it damages the leather. If it doesn’t dry it damages the leather. There is a reason tanners try to stuff as many oils and waxes into leather and it still does not completely prevent it from absorbing moisture. Also sweat is not just water. It also contains salt which is notorious for drying out and damaging leather.

>>17349247
I grabbed another pair as well. 11 on the 1035 fits me with regular socks. I ordered a 2030 in 11.5 to try it out. I’m interested to see how it fits.

>>17349183
If this were the average roundness of Euro boot toes I'd be happy.
But it's not, this is: >>17349065

>>17349266
The leather on those boots never went anywhere near the limit of "too much moisture".
The cork on the other hand is completely trashed.

>>17349183
this is as round as i would go.

>>17349176
Those are too round and shapeless.

>>17349183
I like this.

>>17349065
I like this (on the left).

>>17349071
Too pointy.

>>17349268
Your reading comprehension is trash. You don’t have to be walking through water to damage leather from moisture. You’re doing it wearing them everyday with your sweaty ass feet regardless if there is a little bit of cork in there.

>>17349295
And the leather is absolutely fine while the cork is trashed.
What does that tell you?

>>17349266
Is 2030 smaller? I'm tempted to buy the Service Boot 2030 in Sweet Potato Eco Veg Suede, 500 USD was a good deal but they're back to 624 and I'm still contemplating this, I'm also saving for a pair of Islays

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>>17349324
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>>17349324
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>>17349298
Nothing because because cork has been used forever in footwear without issue even by bespoke makers. You’re supposed to keep your boots in good condition and get them resoled before they start falling apart not after.

>>17349301
The 2030 is more narrow than the 1035. Get the Islays instead. You’ll be happier with them over suede Vibergs. Viberg is only worth it in horsebutt, shell, or kudu/veg veldt.

>>17349332
That's actually insightful, thanks bootbro

>>17347654
Ended up wearing these boots all day yesterday for work, they were super great. Towards the night i did get a slight cramp in my right foot but i had the exact same issue with my previous boots which i broke in nice as well

What is the opinion on Carmina boots? I saw a pair with the commando sole in a shop yesterday and they were very tempting. I understand C&J Snowdons are normally considered the apex of the "outdoor" dress boot, but Carmina is much better looking to me.

>>17344363
>reddit does it so it's bad
People have been cuffing jeans since they were invented. I cuff them till I get them hemmed, however long that may be

>>17344196
>florida
That is unfortunate. People here wear boots (doc martens kek).
>t. city anon

>>17344307
>Im 20 and want to sta
I'm also 20. Do you go to a big party school? I see some people dress nice at my uni (smaller uni), so I don't feel so out of place. Most just wear sneakers

>>17344196
>wearing these to the library
Boots are for +5C and lower.
Shoes for anything warmer.

>>17349070
Is that brown roughout?

>>17344307
21 and just got my first boots

>>17344307
44
wearing boots and proper shoes since 17