/fa/ - Fashion

>>15996263
And they say /fa/ has no OC

Are the Cocktail Time dials good looking in person?

>>15996285
Yes. There's a watch shop right next to my house and there are some cocktails and presages on display. They attract the most people and stand out the most.

>>15996275
Well I used to put OC in the OP every now and then but since I'm still in range ban hell I guess that's not ending anytime soon

>>15996305
W-what did you do anon? I was sharing my wifi with a croat neighbor and the next day I got a rangeban. Never brought the chan up

>>15996307
Nothing.
I've been range banned from making threads since at least November. No reason given as to why. No way of knowing when or if it will end.
I assume gookmoot is trying to force anons to buy passes, but who the hell knows

>>15996229
https://www.lip.fr/en/266-mach-2000-chrono.html
Thoughts on this french shitter? It's about a tenth of the cost of an original and it looks good but I'm wary of it being quartz and/or looking gay

>the brand chooses to update the Aikon as its first major release of 2021. This time around, Maurice Lacroix expands on the more sporting focused Aikon Venturer sub-line, bringing together a popular complication in two new colorways....

does Maurice Lacroix only exist as a brand to vaguely copy much more famous watches?

>>15996322
It looks gay
But what’s wrong with quartz? As long as you don’t pay a stupid amount of money for the watch, quartz is fine.

>>15996349
>copies Rolex, Omega, AP and Hublot at the same time
Wew lad. Imagine if watch journalists could state their opinion and just outright say they look like shit instead being a marketing mouthpiece

>>15996349
its seems maurice lacroix is the hadron collider of watchmakers

anons, i want Jenni to sit on my face

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP76Id8_wgg

>>15996382
i hate the inconsistancy of all those youtubers. they cream themselves over rolex finishing and when a microbrand comes up with watch with some imperfect finishing they trash it into oblivion but when seiko releases a watch with a terrible aluminum bracelet that has a different finish than the watch and illfitting endlinks its totally okay.

>>15996414
Watch youtube is starting to become Hoedickey 2.0

>>15996322
Looks similar to Ellen Riley's watch in Alien. But more modern.

>>15996229
Who's your favorite and least favorite watch youtuber?

>>15996578
Favorite: Archieluxury
Least Favorite: Paul Pluta

>>15996585
The duality of man

>>15996414
Or when someone reviews a Citizen/Casio Edifice
>The Value for money is outstanding
No, you are just used to being tricked into paying 1000€ for an additional Date complication.

>>15996578
The best is the Archie Cinematic Universe including Clyve Watch Wrangler, Marc Goldberg etc. The worst is Teddy.

>>15996781
Nah man, thank god for microbrands. You get Seiko movements, niche designs, 100wr and saphire for dirt cheap, even with non chink shit. At the same time the swiss and Seiko as of recently sell you overpriced, underspeced 40mm dogshit.

>>15996578
Favorite: Craig Shipp
Least Favorite: Tudor Official Youtube Channel

>>15996952
>Least Favorite: Tudor Official Youtube Channel
quick rundown?

Why the fuck is there a thread split?
Why was it necessary to make another /wt/ over two hours after this one?
This board is such shit.

>>15997014
Some anon posted this one and some drooling retard that cant use the catalog made another one

>>15997031
I must be getting old because fuckery like this used to never bother me and now it pisses me off

It's up! New Teddy!

https://youtu.be/dadhk7nktkw

>>15997031
no, the retard OP here didnt link this thread in the old one, so its his fuck up as well.

>>15997050
Are you blind?

>>15996229
you guys keep your watch on in bed and under the shower?

>>15997059
no, are you? can you read?

in the old thread there is no link to this thread. OP made this thread but didnt tell anyone. The only link posted is to the other thread.

>b-but the other guy should have checked the catal-
not an argument, if OP here made the thread and linked it properly in the old one we wouldnt have this situation

>>15996794
what are some good microbrands?

>>15996995
Tudors are absolute dogs so a youtube channel dedicated to marketing them is egregious.

>>15996368
I don't mind quartz but I think it's best suited for pieces you are going to beat on or need high reliability not some sort of artistic shitter, you may as well just go full larp with mechanical at that point. Arguably divers would best benefit from quartz.

>>15997157
microbrands:
zelos, boldr, vario, hked, baltic, lorier, long island, bernhardt, rze, phoibos, scurfa, undone, geokota

aliex brands:
san martin, heimdallr, tissell, sugess, pagani design, parnis, cadisen, steeldive, corgeut, guanqin

theres probably a dozen im forgetting, especially for the micro side.

>>15997218
>how to annoy people and make them want to punch you: the watch

>>15997222
I heard kazoos and clown horns go off in my head when I saw it

>>15997076
Nigga it takes 5 seconds to look it up on the catalog

>>15997304
and it takes less than 5 seconds to post a comment in the old thread

why should you expect people to look through the catalog when you cant be arsed to link it properly in the 1st place

>>15997330
I'm convinced you're the retard that made the other thread

>>15998229
no, im not
im more annoyed the retard OP of this thread created it but neglect to do the last 25%

>>15996285
Yes, they look fantastic.

Post collections, planned purchases?

Pretty happy as of now (ask me next month) lusting after a Reverso

Sold the top 3
Might sell the Kommandirskie and Bulova on eBay.
Really want an Orient Kamasu or Soiko SRPC93

>>15998858
sell the left Nomos and Semenmaster to help get the Reverso

>>15998858
Posted it a few times already but w/e. Not pictured are Heuer Autavia and Chronosport Magnum PI watch. Next one may be a PVD Tag 1000 diver with lume dial like in "The Living Daylights". Also wouldn't mind a Heuer Camaro but vintage Heuer prices are getting out of hand.

>>15998953

>>15998960

>>15998936
Please anon, don't tempt me, I thought about it myself, I don't think my sub will come in any time soon (if at all). I'm one in one out now, so probably one of the Nomos would have to go. Only got the Club this week, orion 1 and gs last month and 3-4 for the Seamaster so I just slowing it down.

>>15998953
Great collection, I'd love a clean Heuer but they are getting up there! I've had headache with a few vintage watches so staying clear as of now.

Thanks to all the anons who reccomended me a BM8180-03E, Im really enjoying it.

>>15997157
Monta

>>15997046
Didn't he make an almost exact video a week ago?

I've put my interest in watches and purchases on hold.

Wearing them in post-covid is a chore. It's almost impossible to perfectly disinfect leather and I'm pretty sure dousing my watches in soap and alcohol will damage it faster.

The only thing I might buy is some resin Casio or Gshock that I can put in a bowl of disinfecting alcohol without any worry or care.

>>15999637
>It's almost impossible to perfectly disinfect leather and I'm pretty sure dousing my watches in soap and alcohol will damage it faster.
>The only thing I might buy is some resin Casio or Gshock that I can put in a bowl of disinfecting alcohol without any worry or care.

???
germaphobe
you are not going to lick your watches
i dont even bother to clean my hands anymore

Anyone have/ come into contact with one of those Timex lcd reissues they came out with a few months back?

>hi im tim

>>15996229
/g/ fag here again, from chink shit general.

The second chink watch just came and with him so have I

>>16000078
I have one of these, no sterile dial unfortunately but honestly great value for the 60 or so bucks I paid. Is the crystal on yours domed?

>>16000104
flat like the original nomos it tries to mimic

MONSTERCHADS WE CANT STOP WINNING

>>15996578
>Favourite
The macro shots in Watchfinder & Co.'s video with the sound muted and Tim's video's which do a good job of showing watches up close.

>Least Favourite
Literally everyone else because they are all either shills or know nothings regurgitating specifications/forumite conventional wisdom.

>>15996263

Do you think Breitling and TAG are headed in the right direction?

>>16000298
It's somewhat futile to drill down on Swatch because almost all Swiss watch manufacturers faced similar difficulties through the 70s and 80s and many changed ownership several times during that era. Omega had a series of problems that predated the Swatch Group and the brand was saved from certain demise by the actions Swatch and Biver took through the early 90s to mid 2000s. The Omega of today is one of the world's premiere and most innovative mechanical watch manufacturers and they would not have reached that status if it weren't for Biver.

By the way, just about the only criticism I've heard in respect of Omega as a brand is that they release too many "special edition" Speedmasters. If that's the worst thing the brand is doing and if that's Biver's ultimate legacy, I would say Omega has been left in pretty good shape.

I'm not sure that things would be better if Omega were bought by Seiko, as was rumoured. As much as we can say the Japanese care about "heritage," the reality is that the Seiko of that era was first and foremost a quartz innovator. It's very well possible that Seiko would have run Omega into the ground on a faster trajectory than it was already headed.

>>16000371
The current state of Grand Seiko tells me the Japanese can't market luxury watches to the West.

>>16000387
They captured the hearts all the redditors and poorfags in the youtube comments. Maybe if they ever get real jobs or save up for 10 more years they can afford one

>>16000387
how so? they sell heaps of spring drives and every third watch youtuber does an obligatory "HOW I LEARNED TO LOVE GRAND SEIKO" video.
if you saying they can't make a bracelet that tapers/has a decent clasp for the money to save their life, I agree with you. But they've been doing pretty well considering that no one knew they existed outside of watchuseek or wristsushi until like 2012

>>16000387
>current state of Grand Seiko t
they are doing better than ever before

>>16000387
I'm not a marketing expert and don't really know anything about the topic, but I have perceived two main problems with Grand Seiko: first, their catalog is confusing. I don't really know the difference between their different product lines and if I go to their website with something in mind (e.g., "I want to look at those watches with the textured dials") it takes too much effort to find what I'm looking for. Secondly, whether or not this is the fault of Grand Seiko or of its fanbase, they appear to be too value focused to capture the emotions of people in the market for Swiss watches.

>browsing ebay for a quantieme
>see this
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Rare-Girard-Perragaux-Chronometer-HF-Gyrodate-Men-watch-Swiss-Automatic/274682493066?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20191002094254%26meid%3D6466b97facae4633bc61d36349da4ae1%26pid%3D100889%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D274609104605%26itm%3D274682493066%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2332490%26algv%3DDefaultOrganic%26brand%3DGirard-Perregaux&_trksid=p2332490.c100889.m5204
>immediately think back to an anon shit posting on how you can just rotate the numbered dial to show the date

That mad lad wasnt half wrong

>>16000393
Redditors arent the 55 year old upper middle class boomer that the market caters to. *Its still a seiko...* is a common statement. Their lineup changes every year with tons of shit thrown at the wall, ranging from boring to gaudy and tacky with no in between. They're still trying to find their unique design.

>>16000402
I should say that thirdly, there is a stigma still attached to things that are made in Asia vs. things that are made in Europe. As someone who has bought several made-in-Japan items I am completely well aware that their build quality and attention to detail is often well in excess of their Western equivalents but, at the same time, as recently as 35-40 years ago "Made in Japan" attracted the same consternation as "Made in China" does today and that's difficult to overcome.

No one who is currently in the market for an expensive watch was passed down his grandfather's Seiko unless his grandfather bought it knowing it was a shitter

>>16000408
>dat link
all you need was
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Rare-Girard-Perragaux-Chronometer-HF-Gyrodate-Men-watch-Swiss-Automatic/274682493066

also i have no idea what you are saying about the dates

>>16000371
Omega has a good reputation today because the Swatch Group made a concerted effort to unfuck the brand after they'd almost destroyed the brand's value in the 90s and early 2000s. There was a time back then that Omega's were regarded by many (largely rightly) as upjumped mall watches.

There could have been a viable path for many more of those Swiss brands to be brought through the quartz crisis without liquidating the design and manufacturing traditions of those brands, and I believe the Swiss industry today would have been much better off for it if more of an effort had been made to preserve those capabilities.

Also FYI, Seiko respected Omega immensely as Omega's brand reputation in Japan was extremely high. Seiko would have had very good reasons to try and preserve Omega and Lemania's internal design and manufacturing capabilities as they would have had a ready market in Japan for their products, and in any case it likely wouldn't have been practical to try and integrate Omega's manufacturing with Seiko's anyway.

>>16000387
>>16000390
>>16000393
Grand Seiko has only been officially available again globally for about 10 years, and in the last year or two in particular, their brand has been notably strengthening even in the face of what the general Seiko brand is known for in the West. Even GS re-sale values have started to pick up.

What's also helped GS in the last two or three years is that Seiko has finally started to adopt the mountain jew marketing tactics of the Swiss and started making entry level to mid range Seikos a much worse value than before, as well as increasing prices across the board, as well as spending more on GS marketing. It's working.

>>16000409
Grand Seikos releases are totally in keeping with GS' historical approach. Even in the 1960s and 1970s GS and KS models were regularly released with many dial variations for each case design.

>>15996578
Favourite: JUST one more shitter
Least favourite: Beddy Taldasarr
Absolutely hated: The Jew Teller

>>15999983
>VITREOUS ENAMEL
which colourway did you get?

>>16000418
Im being a dirty phone poster atm. So my bad.

The watchs bezel rotates to display what date falls on what date.

tried this thing on its nice and small too bad about the fauxtina

>>16000428
I'm fine with Seiko being a "worse value" because I'd rather wear something that says Seiko on it than some shitty Orient or a microshitter no one has heard of. They are also improving their product especially the bracelets, crystals, and movements, though obviously they still have the same bezel/chapter ring QC issues.

>>16000439

>>15998873
I'll have the bulova thanks

>>16000448
>being a brand snob
>not just any brand snob, a seiko brand snob

*rolls eyes*
gay and homosexual, not to mention seiko as a brand has always been very anti snobbery and they cater to every price tier

>>16000448
orient is under seiko epson.........

>>16000418
>https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Rare-Girard-Perragaux-Chronometer-HF-Gyrodate-Men-watch-Swiss-Automatic/274682493066
All you need is https://www.ebay.com/itm/274682493066

>>16000433
>The Jew Teller
He was OK in the beginning, but now that his confidence in front of the camera has grown he has become annoying.

>>16000433
Based opinion

>>16000135
Any idea how this compares to the Heimdallr? I do prefer the look of the original/Heimdallr but want genuine water resistance for diving. And not looking to pay $600 for a used Gen 2 Seiko

>>16000428
>Omega has a good reputation today
With all due respect, that's all I really care about.

Just ordered new battery for my granddad's old quartz omega.

Seems like spare parts for the omega 1325 are non existent so i am praying it kicks it back to life.

>>15996229

what's the cheapest watch that is higher quality than a rolex. objectively speaking

>>16000552
Depends on your definition of "quality." Once you elaborate what you mean by this it would be pretty easy to answer your question.

>>15999637
just leave it on your windowsill to collect sun or something
like 72 hours AT WORST, sun or not, and the virus will die if it can't make it to somebody's respiratory system

>>16000557
fit and finish, movement, materials

>>15999637
big reason why leather straps are annoying in general. did you not wash your hands before covid?
if you are that afraid just get a watch with a metal band and wash it off when you wash your hands. when i wear dive watches i wash them with soapy water kinda often

You faggots are scared of covid enough to affect your watch wearing? 1 minute of UV light kills the disease, literally shake your wrist in the sun a few times before you go in the house. Did you take off your watch during swine flu or H1N1, which were far more severe than COVID? Do you take it off during flu season since the flu and cold are also caused by coronaviruses?
Stop fucking living in fear, you are being ridiculous. If you are this scared you should never wear a watch at all

>>15999637
Get a silver watch then, silver has anti-microbial properties.

>>16000564
You can make a strong case that both Omega and Grand Seiko regularly trounce Rolex in these categories, but it's hard to do a true one-to-one comparison between Rolex and any other brand for a variety of reasons.

>>16000583
It's easy as hell, the only reason it's "hard" is nobody has the balls as they fear the Rolex simp army

>>16000578
who even makes a silver watch anymore, that's rare as shit. Maybe in the 1930s-1940s it was common but nowadays ?

>>16000576
99% of /wt/ is on the spectrum so don't be surprised that people say they're too scared to wear a watch during COVID. There is literally one guy who regularly posts in this thread who asks people to sniff their watches because he thinks steel smells different than titanium or other materials

>>16000586
Well there are certain things that Rolex does that other brands don't. If you take certain specific criteria such as "movement technology" it's extremely simple to do a comparison but the comparisons become a bit more difficult when you look at the whole picture.

>>16000588
Junghans.

>>16000552
>>16000564
For mechanical watches I'd say the minimum is around $9,000 USD. The Grand Seiko SLGH005 is objectively better in almost every respect than a Rolex, barring a couple of things where Rolex is the best in the industry.

The 9sa5 is a more technically advanced movement, with a higher beat rate, a longer power reserve, an innovative new escapement design, and better finishing than Rolex's 32xx.

Grand Seiko externally finishes their watches to a higher standard than Rolex does, with Sallaz polishing and micro polished/brushed hands and indices.

Only advantages Rolex has are end-link-to-lug fitment, clasp adjustability, and lower bracelet flex, but these are things where Rolex is hands down the best in the whole watchmaking industry.

I don't think Omega pulls ahead on enough measures viz. Rolex to be considered unambiguously better, personally.

>>16000635
>9sa5 is a more technically advanced movement, with a higher beat rate, a longer power reserve, an innovative new escapement design, and better finishing than Rolex's
And yet still has a rate spec twice as wide as Rolex's and a shorter service interval

>>16000672
The spec rate is a holdover from their previous generation movements. No modern free sprung balance 4hz or higher movement should have any trouble meeting a tighter accuracy standard like Rolex's +/- 2 spd or Omega's +0 to +5 spd.

Shorter service intervals should be expected on a hi-beat movements, it's an inherent part of the trade-off for the benefits of 5hz.

>>16000635
Disagree with the statement about Omega.

Across the board, Omega watches have more technically advanced movements than Rolex watches and are tested to higher objective standards.

The finishing on Omega watches is to a consistently higher standard than their Rolex equivalents and the designs of Omega cases tend to require more difficult manufacturing processes with more compound curvature and polishing. Omega accomplishes equivalent or higher water resistance to Rolex while using display case-backs and non-screw-down chronograph pushers.

Omega's bracelet fitment is at least to the standard of Rolex's and often includes more sophisticated design. Recall that it was Omega who forced Rolex to stop using paper-thin stamped clasps on their watches.

>>16000686
>>16000672

Omega's rate spec is measured *after* the watch is exposed to a magnetic field of 15,000 gauss.

>>16000686
Disagree. If that were the case, Seiko would have made more than 20 mechanical watches in the past half-century specced equally to Rolex's 2spd, and they wouldn't have cost $50k each.

It's clear GS wants to have watches with that spec, and that they can't economically do it, even at 5Hz.

>>16000696
Omega's criteria only verifies that the rate doesn't change by more than a certain amount after exposure, not that the average rate between positions after exposure still falls in that range. Why would you so transparently lie about that?

>>16000699
All GS movements prior to the 9sa5 were regulated balance movements, where it is exponentially more difficult and more labour intensive to reduce positional variance enough to achieve +/- 2 spd because of how regulated balances work.

The 9sa5, like Omega's 85xx co-axial and Rolex's 32xx movement, is a free sprung design. Free sprung balances are massively easier to adjust and regulate to a +/- 2 spd kind of standard because free sprung balances inherently are prone to much less positional variance than regulated balances are.

For example, I have a Rolex Datejust 16233, which was rated from Rolex to just normal COSC standards, and yet after being serviced it trivially achieved +/- 2 SPD over the first 24 hours of wind in all positions. This just isn't that hard to achieve with well made free sprung baalnce 4hz+ movement.

>>16000707
The chronometric precision of the cased-up watch is tested after both the bare movement and the cased-up watch are exposed to 15,000 gauss twice. The watch is demagnetized and tested again for a 24 hour period. Then the demagnetized watch is tested in six different positions, two alternating temperatures, and again is exposed to 15,000 gauss. Lastly, the watch is tested a second time in six positions. By the end of the testing process, the movement will have been exposed to 15,000 gauss three times and undergo three complete chronometric tests (one COSC test in 5 positions+two METAS tests, which are in 6 positions).

And these tests are completed by an external organization and are completely accessible to anyone who buys an Omega watch with the Master Chronometer certification.

>>16000000

The RolexTM Oyster Perpetual 36mm is undoubtedly the pinnacle of versatility, class and timeless style.

>>16000475
I don't want a budget version of a Seiko. That's just ridiculous.

>>16000745
At least use the ™ symbol properly you mongoloid.

>>16000722
So then why didn't GS tighten the spec? Even if they wanted to keep the VFA reissue unique, they could have tightened it to the "special" standard.

>>16000726
> And these tests are completed by an external organization
No, they aren't, the tests are conducted by Omega. METAS does sample retesting only.

Second, nothing you've written challenges what I said, which is that the magnetism test does not require the watch fall within 0 to 5spd after magnetism. It requires that the rate magnetised vs unmagnetised vary by no more than that amount.

>>15996229
Found this Russian Amphibian diver for one-fiddy. I think it's a great example, though not in amazing shape. The crystal is acrylic though so I can polish out scratches. Do I cop?

Boctok

>>16000759
>Average Daily Chronometric Precision of the Watch
That testing phase includes a magnetism component where the watch is exposed to a field of 15,000 gauss once again.

It's a bit large for my taste at 44.3mm but I'm way to much a sucker for starry pattern to not buy it.

>>16000518
It's made by cronos so it should be up to the standard of their other watches, so far they seem to make good stuff. They apparently used to make parts for san martin.
Here is their ali store
https://aliexpress.com/store/v3/home.html?shopId=5032128&sellerId=238586100&pagePath=index.htm

>>16000759
>So then why didn't GS tighten the spec?
They only just started releasing models with the 9sa5. I presume they will eventually get around to tightening the testing spec for them. Maybe when they roll them out to more of their range.

In the meantime, It's not as if being specced only to COSC specs stops Tudor's in-house free sprung balance movements from performing on-par with the Rolex 32xx series.

>>16000805
that's pretty cool space dial

>>15998858
Grand Seiko at some point, need to settle on a model first.

>>15999456
Looks good.

>>16000078
Got a link to that Chinesium? Interested in seeing specs.

>>16000838
Not the guy you're responding to. You're correct that meeting COSC or other certifications (superlative chronometer, METAS, etc.) is a pleasant formality but is not particularly difficult with current mechanical standards. My bog-standard Omega Calibre 2500D (which btw does have a free-sprung balance), which is not a particularly special movement, had a maximum COSC delta of about 0.4s. It keeps time four years later at a very consistent +2s/day.

>>16000871
lol

>>16000800
So you're saying that of the two days that are used to calculate that average, it's entirely possible the watch runs +10 when magnetised while the average remains in the specced range?

>>16000805
They do make some smaller watches with that dial.

>>16000871
never post this cringe again

>>16000888
I think you're slightly conflating a couple of the steps of the test.

The third test involves the watch being magnetized via exposure to a magnetic field of 15,000 gauss. The watch is tested for 24 hours when magnetized and 24 hours when demagnetized. The delta between the two days is recorded.

The fourth test lasts four days. The watch is tested in 6 positions, at 2 temperatures, and is exposed to another 15,000 gauss magnetic field. In this test, I suppose it is possible that the watch runs +10 when magnetized, yeah, but overall, the watch has to fall within an average of a less than 6 second delta/day in order to pass. It's a very impressive standard.

>>16000871
Lol so this is the avatarfagging loser's collection

>>16000910
no need to be rude

>>16000871
Man it is so funny when it turns out that you wrongly assumed that someone in this thread was actually 3 or 4 different people.

>>15996414
Any watch YouTuber who says anything negative about Seiko gets dislike brigades by Reddit, and probably the poorfags in this thread as well.

Give it a few years, people will eventually realize Seiko is scamming them.

>>15998858
Finally took a new collection shot.

Looking to pick up a Grand Seiko quartz model next. Probably an SBGP001 unless I hate the champagne dial in person.

>>15996578
Tim Mosso and Archie are the best, everyone else is pretty horrible. I don’t mind Bark & Jack from the little I’ve seen.

>>16000891
That was a dilemma, but I wanted the day and dual time.

>>16000934
Whenever you see a bunch of shitposting in a thread and you think it's multiple people, it actually is always 1 or 2 losers whose whole lives revolve around that one thread.

Anyone have pics of their gray dial watches? Want to see if I'll like the shades.

>>16000490
I watched a couple of his videos right until I saw the Vostok one and he showed his retardation. Completely discredited him in my eyes.

I don't even know what you guys are talking about desu, I only recognize the chink flieger.

>>16000964
What did he say?

>>16000968
He probably unironically compared it to Rolex because he is a retard with no idea what he is doing

>>16000518
I just put in an order for this sawtooth version. I actually had a Heimdallr but quickly gave it away to my nephew. There's something weird about having a 1:1 homage of my favorite design, and I just couldn’t bond with it. This sawtooth design looks more appealing than something exact

>>16000686
You do know that the “superlative chronometer” standard is a measurement of the average daily deviation of the watch, not its performance against a reference time right?

A Rolex can in theory pass the superlative chronometer standard if it runs +30 seconds per day against an atomic clock so long as it doesn’t deviate from the +30 by more than -2/+2 on average per day. It’s just a slightly more strict COSC-like test of the fully cased up watch.

Accuracy does not equal precision.

Pic related shows that a Rolex watch ran at +10 seconds on the third and fourth days of its COSC test, but it did so consistently across the two days so it was scored a deviation of 0 for that phase of the certification.

>>16000964
He didn't know vostoks can handwind and even claimed his didn't in the comments. Unless he bought a fake vostok he's just an idiot.

>>15996578
Favourite: T Mosso At The Watch Box Dot Com
Least Favourite: Pretty much everyone else but especially the "Boom Watch Fag" guy

Archie is a mentally ill chronically underemployed moron but, like a Shakespearean fool, he does by chance say a few profound things every so often

>>16000941
>Grand Seiko quartz
y tho

>>16000977
This is false. You are under the impression that the v_i numbers, which are the differences in rate in single positions, are the numbers used in the average daily rate criteria of the ISO 3159 chronometer standards. They are not. That number (which must be between -4 and +6) is the average of M1 through M10, which for this watch was +5.3spd.

>thinking of buying a $1k microbrand
>maybe just cop for a vostok
>will still need to spend $$ to get the exact config and mods i want

>>16001006
what profound things has Archie said?
legitimately curious since I don't watch him at all

>>16001013
Why does the dial looks like a dryer sheet?

>>15999456
it looks better on that leather strap than the weird green canvas strap it comes with

>>16001039
His "snobbery" rambling hit on a universal truth of watch collecting in an almost painfully accurate manner

>>16001020
You're right, but the remainder of his points stand to scrutiny

>>16000947
Nice, while it still fits you well at 43mm
Enjoy

>>16001053
which was?
you got a link?

>>16001056
They don't. The +2/-2 rate spec means an average daily rate of within 2 seconds of zero seconds per day.

>>16001074
Measured against what? An atomic clock?

>>16001094
How Rolex actually regulate their watches is a secret.

>>16000977
As far as I have ever heard of, all well known watch accuracy testing regimens compare the daily deviation of the tested watches against an external, accurate, reference time, and are thus simultaneously tests of precision and accuracy.

A watch can meet the COST testing standards for mean daily variation and still run at +10 in one of the 5 tested positions, and that doesn't bear on what reference the deviations are measured against anyway.

Are the chink watch repair sets enough to start playing with mods and shit?

>>16001013
Because I prefer the styling of the GS 45KS case shape models and I prefer the twin pulse second hand. For that, I'm willing to live with 10spy instead of 5spy.

>>16001013
>here's your $3000 watch
>we didn't bother colour matching the date wheel
I know it's a nice watch but the date wheel kills it, it's too incongruous for my taste.

Only the fucking Swiss could turn basic quality control testing into incongruous marketing babble for people to argue about over the internet

>>16001139
I know most brands, especially traditional ones, use white date wheels for clarity but even Patek don't do that when it comes to black dial and white metal.

>>16000439
>>16000455
I lusted after this thing HARD two years go.

The off-white patina is a really nice touch. Nobody said lume has to be stark white.

>>16000455
Eh trainmaster is better

>>16001115
The Rolex service center standards for regulation have been posted several times here.

>>16001094
Measured against an accurate time source. An atomic clock would certainly work. Realistically, any reasonably accurate quartz standard would also be good enough.

Some news for that anon who wanted a group b a while ago.

>>16001039
>what profound things has Archie said?
>legitimately curious since I don't watch him at all
Archie is a big proponent of not buying dogshit. You might say that sounds obvious. The truth is, it isn’t. Browse a /wt/ thread and you’ll see collections composed entirely of shitters, people unironically shilling $90 chink watches, and people constantly looking for the microbrand that they think will make a decent watch for $1000 (hint: this never happens).

It’s basic human psychology, people trying to beat the game. Everyone wants to be as satisfied as they would be with a Patek without paying Patek money. That’s also why GS is so rabidly jerked off, because the perception is that they are underpriced.

It’s a tough pill to swallow, but the fact is that if you want a decent watch you have to pay decent money.

>>16001248
Bro I just buy watches I like regardless of price.

>>16001248
>t. brainwashed by "Swiss" marketing

>>16001256
I should clarify there’s nothing wrong with owning shitters/vintage pieces/oddities of interest. My point was that people often waste their money on some $1500 watch because that’s all they can afford when what they actually want is a Rolex.
>>16001263
You’re not beating the game by wasting your money on chink shit microbrands

>>16001226
Wonder what the new Night Stage version will be. I recommended probably 6 months ago they do a black PVD/lume dial Group B.

>>16001287
Guess we'll see. I just wish they'll keep the same brushed/polished/blasted finish of the regular pieces rather than all bead blasted like the last night stage piece.

>>16001050
I think so too, got the strap to match a belt gf gave me for christmas

>>16001268
>beating the game

The is no game loser. Nobody cares, just wear what you like, and leave others be.

>If you want a decent watch you have to pay decent money.

What does decent even mean? An f91w tells the time better than any mechanical Rolex.
Nobody even really "needs" a watch anymore. It's jewelry. An extension of your personality. Something that you like for whatever reason.

advice to all anons ITT - buy a speedmaster and never look at watch content ever again

advice to all anons ITT - buy me a speedmaster and never look at watch content ever again

>>16001248
Archie is right for the people who care a lot about social status signaling with their watches and who therefore will always be disappointed with a watch won't deliver the flexing potential they are after.

That doesn't describe all watch buyers.

>>16001324
>What does decent even mean? An f91w tells the time better than any mechanical Rolex.
This cope never fails to make me laugh.

>>16001338
>Archie is right
Your post should have stopped there
>>16001324
>An f91w
Shut the fuck up about the f91w

>>16000745
I was between the op36 and dj36 and went for the latter. A real icon

>>16001324
They hated anon for he spoke the truth.

>>16000941
The solar tuna looks pretty good with the steel shroud. I wish they had used the hands they went with on the street series tuna.

It feels like it was done purposely so people couldn't just swap a shroud and have peak tuna for a budget price

>>16001362
((shitclops))

>>16001324
I can smell the poorfag shitter collection from here.

>>16000830
>>16000971
Thanks folks

>>15996229
Crown at 12 vs crown at 6 who wins

>>16000805
Must be nice to be so rich that you can pay thousands for a noname quartz mall watch with cut numerals.

>>16001324
People who collect chinkshit shouldn't be applauded. Buying lowest bidder crap on impulse is lame. You may preach not passing judgement but I don't care. People will be critics.

>>16001387
>sniffag is also the rolex larper
wow im so g shocked

>>16001387
>>16001352
Jokes on you poorfags. Pic related, me and my Rolex.

>>16001382
I personally love it. I know im in the minority here

>>16001400
12

>>16001425
Finally got a real watch, eh Patrick?

>>16001438
>1
>2
>7
>R
where to cop bros?

>>16001426
im just playin anon. if i had a one-and-done it would likely be the datejust.

What do you guys think of the brand D1 Milano quality wise? Especially this Skeleton one

Also are the watches thick and large enough for big wrists?

Thx!

>>16001496
Someone post THE pic

>>16001496
>shameless Nautilus rip off
>garbage Seiko movement
>skeletonized
>founded in 2013
>Italian
>$900
Looks good bro wear it in good health

>>16001496
Skeleton watches are almost always cringe and this is no exception.

>>16001496
The size should be fine for most wrists. The skeleton would look good on big wrists for sure.
Just make sure you get it from jomashop or somewhere else where you aren't paying close to retail.
The commando model is easily their best watch.

D1 Milano x metal slug watch
I want it bros

>>16001558
Those applied numerals with the pixelated color fade are beautiful.

>>16001496
>>16001556
>>16001558
>>16001561

>>16001561
>>16001558
Can you get it with the bracelet or is it GAYTO only?

This general should be renamed "confirmation bias: the thread." Everyone here is just defending purchases they have already made or gifts that were given to them without any sense of objectivity. You can't disagree with this.

>>16001564
It is gato only, fixed lugs, i would probably put it on a perlon. Or just get an open ended leather strap and install it.

>>16001571
Yeah it's a shame, I can see the appeal for a Metal Slug fan. But I would want it on the bracelet which looks pretty well executed, it's a waste to have that on a NATO only. Would look sick on brown leather.

>>16001568
And it's the same circlejerk around a handful of brands in every thread.

>>16001496
Get the non skeleton version $375
https://www.jomashop.com/d1-milano-p701-watch-atbj02.html

>>16001539
> don't have the money for a Nautilus, and I even prefer the look of this one
>garbage really?
> don't care
> Italian and?
>600€ where I am

Ty

>>16001583
At least don't get the skeleton one, it looks stupid.

>>16001248
>That’s also why GS is so rabidly jerked off,
No, GS is jerked-off because guys who pay thousands of dollars for a fucking Seiko very desperately need reassurance they didn't through their money out the window.

>400 Seiko?
Good value for money
>40000 (Grand) Seiko?
Oh shit, nigga, what are you doing?

>>16001568
This entire thread is just sour grapes about Rolex and poor people trying to convince themselves that they don't actually want one.

>>16001589
>This entire thread is just sour grapes about Rolex and poor people trying to convince themselves that they don't actually want one.
To be entirely fair, that's 90% of the online watch community in general.

>>16001586
It's my favorite one with their Chronomaster

Help me out /wt/: my local AD (only one in my city) only has the Speedy on rubber, I'm finally tired of waiting to pick one up but if I want to negotiate the price, should I suggest I'd order one with the bracelet online? Or am I out of luck since I can't really go to another store the same day to buy it.

>>16001558
>the main feature of the watch are pixelated numerals
>they didn't even put all 4 main ones
...

>>16001602
Ask if they can order it on the bracelet for you. It shouldn't be hard if they're an AD. It's not like there's some seriously low supply of Speedmasters and they should be trying to work with you to make the sale since people seem to be realizing the new Speedy is just better so they'll be moving on to that soon. Unless they are kicking you some deep discount why not just buy it online from a trusted seller to start with?

>>16001604
Would you rather there was half a 6 on the bottom?

>>16001600

>>16001568
These threads moving from /g/ to /fa/ has really reduced the number of people who post who have any interest in watches beyond as fashion accessories and/or perceived social status flexing devices.

>>16001494
I wish I could be a one and done type. Im now eyeing the batgirl

>>16001609
>24hr subdial

>>16001614
>I wish I could be a one and done type.
Same here, I could cash in my collection and get literally anything short of Paul Newman's personal Daytona but instead I'm stuck with a hundred pieces I don't wear.

>>16001611
I would be a lot more impressed with people complaining about watches being used to signal social status if they could actually afford nice watches.

>>16001611
What else is there though? If you want a technically interesting watch it's going to be expensive as fuck so that automatically puts it into a flex device category so...?

>>16001611
> watches as fashion accessories and/or perceived social status flexing devices
because that is what they are to 99.9% of the population

>>16001616
And? Is it bad? It my first "big" purchase for a watch

>>16001639
There used to be a decent number of regular posters to these threads on /g/ who had an interest in either or both the history and technical aspects of watches. There still are a couple of us, but there used to be quite a few more.

>>16001589
That’s a form of confirmation bias

>>16001653
I used to talk about how quartz was interesting and the differences between how Citizen and Seiko are pushing the tech but all you get is >Seiko >quartz >jap shit >just buy Rolex >it wasn't even on the moon
There's no point. These threads are haunted by some shitposting faggot anyway and the discussion always gets shifted away from technical aspects to some bait about Rolexs.

>>16001568
I'm just here for news about watches I may or may not want in the future, general interesting information and cool people who just like sharing their collections no matter what's in it.

>>16001641
>big
>under 5k
Yeah about that...

>>16001660
Ok, what are some really good quartz watches and do they cost more than $1000? See my point? If you go above $1000 why not get the brand cachet with it?

I would pay up to $2500 for the ultimate best quartz watch with all kinds of ridiculous technologies IF and only if I could show it off like something special and it wouldn't be mogged by the worst Air King.

But nowadays the best quartz watches on the regular lineup of Citizen and Seiko and such cost more than $3k in which case... Speedy is already in that price range.

>>16001685
didn't read lol

>>16001611
maybe there should be a dedicated /wt/ board

>>16001660
t.b.h just get over it. This is /fa/ and the thread has been here for ages now. If you want quartz tech discussion find some autistic board elsewhere where people actually care and you'll get better discussion.

>>16001692
There is not enough interest in watches for that to be worth it. Really we just need better moderation in this thread because 90% of the retarded shit is posted by a single faggot.

>>16001641
No it's not bad it's fine

>>16001697
Take your meds schizo

>>16001697
>moderation
but mods have a very good chance of being the faggots
maybe more community self-policing and better discipline about when to respond to obvious bait so every thread isn't 150 posts of the same fucking drivel

>>16001703
It doesn't work. One thing that would help tremendously is the implementation of those /pol/ and /int/ style forced trips across all of 4chan. It would cut shitposting significantly. The big problem with 4chan now is that large parts of the site consolidate into general threads and every general thread has 1 or 2 fags who pretend to be 10 different people, reply to themselves, etc. and they live for no reason than to shit that thread up. If there were forced trips, those fags would be stuck with 1 identity each thread and they couldn't just spam and play off of themselves.

>>16000747
>thinking orient is just 'budget seiko"
retard
orient is not a sub brand to' seiko holdings' aka seiko watches
the 2 companies are not affiliated and their designs are not even comparable

>>16001726
You're kind of correct. I think Seiko owns Orient now although they still operate independently.

>>16001712
Every board on 4chan has been allowed to be subverted in one way or another until it's killed the board culture everywhere.
Show me a board that still has the board culture it once had. They've either been over moderated and outright censored or completely abandoned like /fa/. The mods use this place like it's their personal little safe space, the jannies get worse every time we get new ones, the shills and discord trannies are completely unchecked, and it's all because gookmoot doesn't fucking care. He just wants to gather info on you and make money.
Things will only change when either gookmoot sells out or when there's a better place to migrate to.

>>16001732
Seiko Epson owns Orient, not Seiko the watchmaker.
>Seiko Watch Corp., a subsidiary of Seiko Holdings Corp., markets SEIKO watches while Seiko Instruments Inc. and Seiko Epson Corp. manufacture their movements.
https://www.fratellowatches.com/seiko-factory-visit-trip-report-part-1/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXze1IDgi8Q

Rob is live, niggers

>>16001732
>>16001726
>The Seiko Group consists of Seiko Holdings Corporation (Seiko), Seiko Instruments Inc. (SII), and Seiko Epson Corporation (Epson). Although they have some common shareholders, including the key members of the Hattori family (posterity of Kintarō Hattori), the three companies in the Seiko Group are not affiliated.

seiko holdings = owns 'seiko watches' that makes normal seiko watches

seiko instruments = movement manufacturing

seiko epson = grand seiko and orient

>>16001764
>>16001747
I didn't even know Seiko Holdings was a different thing

>>16001747
Seiko is Seiko is grand Seiko Seiko LLC Seiko Int. Seiko Org. Seiko Co. Seiko Grande Seiko Vente Seiko petite tour de Seiko all same shit

It's like going REEEE AMAZON PRIME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH AMAZON THEY ARE ENTIRELY DIFFERENT ENTERPRISES

>>16001772
thats like saying you and your adopted sister are the exact same person because you 2 share the same parents

>>16001772
brainlet

>>16001772
orient is a less contaminated company than seiko, who just churns out soulless, limited edition, still ruined reissues at jacked up prices nowadays

>>16001798
what about citizen

>>16001784
>>16001788
>>16001798


ITS A DIFFERENT SEIKO THEY ARE ALL DIFFERENTTHE NIPS THAT MADE MY SQUARE NIGHTSTAND CLOCK ARE NOT THE NIPS THAT MADE ANONS GRAND SOIKO

and remember kids, only a Rolex is ever good enough

I just like Seiko. It was considered high quality in my father's home country, along with Omega, so I have always favored those brands.
None of the Grand Seikos really appeal to me though.

>>16001837
why rolex? too poor to afford a patek?

>>16001860
I only buy watches that I can own

>>16001685
Seriously, no recommendations at all?

>>16001660
>I used to talk about how quartz was interesting and the differences between how Citizen and Seiko are pushing the tech
In terms of stepper motor quartz watches I haven't seen Seiko do that much interesting or innovative stuff in a long time. At least they finally added an independently adjustable hour hand to some of their GS quartz models. Citizen seems to be doing way more interesting stuff with quartz these days, at least from what I've seen.

>These threads are haunted by some shitposting faggot anyway
I know. It's been like that in these threads for years. It's obvious from the way the shitpost and baitposts come in clumps of 30-50 posts all of a sudden and then stop again for hours.

https://youtu.be/8bFxNerWwZs
T Mosso At The Watch Box Dot Com
Wear Your Mask Edition

>>16001712
Instituting /poil/ style per-thread IDs would, single handedly, fix most of the problems with 1-2 posters per general or board shitting up every discussion. Would be amazing.

>>16001875
just get a $1000 mtg/mrg gshock

its unmoggable, what other watches even looks like these. Some anon here bought this and its beautiful. You'll be the king of gshocks

>>16001884
Yeah but I'm not twelve. Unfortunately I need an adult watch, and it seems that apart from strictly military use watches (like the massive G-Shocks with a billion sensors) the only quartz watches that exist for old people are boring and with basic functions. There just isn't anything cool. Edifice is the closest it comes to it but they have the Indian market mall watch design.

>>16001884
Is this bait? $1000 G-shock: tranny edition?

>>16001747
>>16001764
>>16001770
Seiko's internal organization structure is pretty byzantine. Seiko Watch Corp, as far as I understand, does the marketing and distribution for Seiko watches.

Seiko Instruments Inc., which used to be Daini Seikosha, manufactures all mechanical Seiko watches from Seiko 5s all the way up to mechanical Grand Seikos and Credors.

Seiko Epson, which used to be Suwa Seikosha, manufactures all quartz and spring drive Seiko watches from quartz mall-shitters to the Seiko LX line, Grand Seiko, and Credor. The Micro-Artist Studio is organized under Seiko Epson and that's why most MAC Credors and GS models are spring drive, not mechanical.

Seiko Epson has lots of other business lines outside of watchmaking, and also owns Orient. Orient, however, operates totally separately from Seiko's watchmaking operations, it just also happens to be owned by Seiko Epson.

By the way, this means that there are effectively still two Seiko watchmaking companies, which then each have multiple manufacturing chains at different price/quality levels.

>>16001890
Get a certina ds 2
20 second per year accuracy, cool 100th of a second chrono hand, Sapphire, doesn't look like a kids toy $300
https://www.jomashop.com/certina-watch-c024-447-16-051-03.html
https://youtube.com/watch?v=o53kxtk5pvA

>>16001685
Casio has the Oceanus s100 and t200 in the $500 - $600 range, and Citizen has the PMD56-2591/2592 in that same price range (one of which I just bought recently). Those are all very well made solar atomic radio-sync quartz quartz watches with excellent features.

There's also the Seiko Dolce SACM171 for around $350 that offers a HAQ dress watch with good finishing and traditional dress watch sizing.

When looking for good quartz watches bellow $1k the challenge is to avoid designs that were primarily targeted at mallgoing normies, but with some research, there are good options out there.

>>16001919
I really whish that oceAnus was 2mm smaller, i fucking love that watch but it's too big.

>>16001712
>every general thread has 1 or 2 fags who pretend to be 10 different people, reply to themselves, etc. and they live for no reason than to shit that thread up.
does this actually happen tho. who would wanna reply to themselves. to what end?

>>16001918
That's the watch I was looking at 3 years ago when I first got into this, but I didn't get it because it didn't come in black/white colors, it was only green and red and shit like that. It makes an otherwise decent generic looking watch look like shit.
>>16001919
Same for this and the blue. It just reeks of boomer.

>>16001926
I'm only ever going to bring this up once.
There are some people who are into something but they have nothing to contribute. So they have this deep internalized feeling of inadequacy because they know they are shit and will never get attention in something they are interested in. What they do to cope is shitpost because by being annoying, they will get attention, and then they can pretend that by getting attention they have "won." On 4chan since there is anonymity they can do it much easier than normally because they can just live in the thread posting dumb shit.
Eventually people catch on and start ignoring them, so the faggot has to create new identities that they cycle between either daily or in weekly periods. Like there will be the avatarfag posting his shitty dive watch with each post. There will be Casio faggot replying to everything with "get a Casio." Eventually they slip up like this retard posting his collection, so you can see it's the same fag pretending to be 10 people. This also shows that they are so pathetic that they have to make up different people to be, because they have so little worthwhile personality.
The end stage is that the faggot eventually has to reply to himself to make it seem like people are giving him attention, in the hopes that it drives other people to join in the mockery or say "dude that's the shitposter stop replying to it" because they need to be acknowledged and validated in any way.
That's the faggot we're dealing with here, and there is a faggot like this in many general threads on 4chan. This is why thread IDs should be implemented globally. Once you understand that this type of subhuman exists, it explains a LOT.

>>16001919
Anus
N
I
S

>>16001890
>blah blah im old and cannot wear this
you ever get sick of saying this in every thread? WUS is full of old wrinkly boomers wearing all sorts of loud fun watches. I think you should allow yourself to actually enjoy the hobby. Life is short

>>16001893
its not bait
These are GSHOCK distilled, gshock concentrated.
these are unapologetic, maximalist gshock of gshocks, with lots of nerdy details. For example this one is hand hammered by a multi generational samurai swordsmith in japan

>The surface of the bezel and band simulates the tetsu sabiji (rusted steel) finishing technique used on the Shougeki-Maru kabuto helmet. The aged feel was reproduced by using special dies based on the sand dies by casting artisan Masanao Kikuchi. Additionally, the bezel and band are finished with layers of brown and blue ion plating (IP) to create the rugged look of rusted steel and the look of the navy blue ito odoshi* used in the Shougeki-Maru kabuto, respectively. This gives a unique textured finish that enhances the deep colors of the rusted steel look.
>The MRG-B2000SH-5A features a recrystallized titanium case with a deep-hardening treatment and AIP (arc ion plating), Tough Solar power, Multi-Band 6 auto radio time adjustmen, and Bluetooth smartphone link.

this watch is also $8000. All sold out now

>>16001926
Yeah it's true, its mental illness mostly, some people think generals are evil and spend half their day trying to ruin every one, sometimes it's drama with posters.
I everytime i phone post and get a new ip i have to clear a ban from someone near me who does nothing but change ips and talk shit yo one specific tranny from one /vg/ general.
Semi related, if you try and start a new chan and don't allow loli content this group of autists will find your board and spam it with real kiddy porn 24/7 till you give up and close it.

>>16001945

>>16001926
>>16001943
>>16001948
its literally just one guy in brazil whos bitter about money

>>16001954
Whatever, the point is that 90% of retarded shit is one retard pretending to be 10 retards because he's a fucking loser and once you understand that you will get baited so much less and waste so much less time.

>>16001602
I bought a Speedy on a bracelet, but I don't wear it on a bracelet.

The bracelet is high quality, but the lack of micro adjustments is the killer. It is either too loose or too tight.

watch for larping as an army ranger?

>>16001961
the abosolute STATE of mutt-america

>>16001919
>Ocean Anus

>>16001945
>WUS is full of old wrinkly boomers wearing all sorts of loud fun watches.
They are either very rich, or old enough to have left the world behind entirely. In 20 years maybe I'll wear the Casio fishing watch.

>>16001961
la creatura...

>>16001945
I was really disappointed in this one, they show a detailed dragon somewhere in the video or on the packaging, I forgot, but I thought that the dragon engraving would look like that, and instead it's some retarded stick figure dragon doodle.

>>16001961
gw-7900
Mudman
Rangeman
Gulfmaster
G-9100-1JF

>>16001945
>>this watch is also $8000.
See >>16001685

If you're paying that much for a quartz, why not just get a real watch from a real brand? Quartz is supposed to be cheap and useful and it's supposed to be a "smarter" choice than paying up the ass for a mechanical just because of the brand.

>>16001924
The lug to lug is pretty short at 45-46mm, and with the dial being relatively small to the case size due to the large chapter ring and bezel, I assume it wears smaller than its case size.

The Citizen PMD56 I got has a 39.5mm case but wears like a 37-38mm watch because of short 45mm lug to lug and a smallish dial due to a similar large chapter ring and bezel.

>>16001940
Have you looked at one of these?

Rate the new rose gold ip coated full metal g-shocks

>>16001973
Yes, in fact I was praising it as a really good modern field/tool watch in a previous thread. It pretty much has everything that it should have, on paper. In reality it's just meh to me personally.

>>16001973
I really should hurry up an buy that Oceanus, I'm afraid they are going to discontinue that model soon.

>>16001979
There are also some great, functional, quartz dive watches available for under $500, including a bunch of Citizen models (most especially the BN0150/0151) and the Seiko solar Tuna models.

>>16001979
Have you looked at the citizen attesa / exceed jdm product lines?
Something like this is pretty simple
AT6050-54E

>>16001972
>muh muh brands
fuck off with your brazillian shitposting already

>>16001978

Which one do you guys like more for everyday wear? This'll be my first watch.

>>16001992
Why not both?

>>16001994
I'm rewarding myself for hitting $100k investing and I don't want to spend too much.

>>16001883
It will never happen

>>16001992
Between those two, I'd get the left. Though I'd rather a presage without the PR or date ring on the dial.

>>16001998
I really like the date ring, and as long as the PR isn't that big bar style that they have on some of them I'm okay with it.

>>16001995
>>16001992
I would get the blue one... it comes with a bracelet and is nice and flashy but the blue dial goes with everything while the cream dial and gold hands are more refined. You can also dress the blue one down much more easily by buying an aftermarket brown strap. It just does more.

>>16001992
I'd go with the blue dial, personally

NEW THREAD WHEN?

>>16001994
>>16001998
>>16002002
>>16002003
I'm also open to suggestions, but I'm not a big fan of divers and I'd like things to look relatively simple and classy.

>>16002014
The blue one in that pic is fine.

>>16002014

>>16001992
>>16002014
these are kinda big and too dressy for everyday imo
a perfect everyday (as a suggestion) would be like the junghans max bill 34 handwind, and acrylic>hardlex since you can easily polish scratches away. The cocktail has a very domed crystal which is a scratch magnet

>>16002030
>spend even more money to get a fucking daniel wellington

>>16002031
they are both around the same price, hes not getting the basic cocktail

junghans has been around since 1861, its a real heritage brand and the max bill is the original design, DW and the others are just pale imitators

a smaller watch is just much classier/ doesnt get in the way like a bigger watch would

>>16002014
SRPE43
It's a nice blue presage that is just a mm smaller so it will wear a little more sleekly

>>16001970
>multiband

are they even allowed to wear stuff like that on deployment?

>>16002023
I like it more with the date dial

>>16002030
I like it, I'll see if I can find a used one in blue.

>>16002044
It's okay, but I hate the numbers on the face.

>>16002030
There is a 34mm version of the Cocktail Time you know.

>>16002053
>but I hate the numbers on the face.
Then get one of the ones you posted

>>16002048
No.

>>15998858
Had a good couple of years consulting. Recently got my two grails - 40mm Rolex President and Speedmaster Moonphase.

On the wishlist: Datejust, Snoopy Speedy, Deep Black Seasmaster, Batman, and maybe something ALS or GS. Suggestions welcome.

>>16002030
Cant polish the junghans acrylic becuz it has a coating scrub. Also long island watch has a sapphire replacement crystal for presage. Cocktail time is a little big tho but the junghans is a little smol and more expensive and b*uhaus

>>16002072
>junghans is small
ALL non tool watches should be 32-36mm

>>16001352
Well, why? A Casio (generically, not just the f91w) is more accurate, durable, affordable, better value for dollar, has vastly more functionality, and will keep accurate time whether it's on or off your wrist. It is, objectively, a better watch.
Rolex wins in design (although that's very subjective) and prestige. You can show off your ability to buy expensive things with a Rolex. Nothing wrong with that, but to argue that it is objectively superior is wrong.

>>16002070
Hope you get fucking dick cancer.

NEW THREAD
>>16002092

>>16002085
>Rolex wins in design
everything outside of a few models is ugly trash and 70% of rolex just looks like the submariner

>>16002093
thats a bit unnecessary anon

>>16002110
What, he's already dickless? Wouldn't be surprised.

>>16001973
I hope you know they miss you, Drake.

>>16001995
>>16001992
Those are watches for people with no savings

>>16002235
why do you have to say this?

>>16002304
Because it's true. Dude you got money, buy a real watch.

>>16002322
checked
But i'd rather buy more shitcoins. I can read the time with my f91. I just wanted something I can wear on dates.

>>16000871
>Got a link to that Chinesium? Interested in seeing specs.
https://www.good-stuffs.com/The-5th-anniversary-of-Times-International-automatic-wrist-watch-OEM-by-Sea-Gull_p_236.html

Sapphire crystal. Display case back
size is 38.5 x 9.5mm
ST17 automatic
316 stainless steel case

>>15996229
is this a good watch i have like 150 to spend, citizens and seikos in my country are 200 250
used market is kinda small and i dont trust it fully
swatch yvs470

>>16002909
Its fine but swatches integrated bracelet design kinda sucks.

If you want quartz and happy with a sportier design try casio edifice.

If you want a mech get yourself onto aliexpress and check out san martin / steel dive / escapement time/ proxima or any of the other meme branda