/fa/ - Fashion

go to brooklyn, get a boyfriend and only wear black for the rest of your life fag

Apparently Mexico City's has a massive contemporary art scene, monthly cost of living is something crazy cheap like £600 too. Heard visa runs were piss easy as well. Worth looking into potentially

>>15947315
Thank you so much! Great suggestion. I was thinking about Barcelona but Mexico City sounds way cheaper. Have a great day anon!

>>15947289
Jacksonville, Florida

>>15947332
Why? What makes it Effay

>>15947289
you should focus on money and buying land, not going to a city to live because its effay

>>15947342
go away boomer. you will own nothing and be happy :))))

>>15947324
>>15947315
Try not to die to the cartels :)

>>15947432
Mexico City doesn't have cartel problems

>>15947351
>go away boomer. you will own nothing and be happy :))))

Im 26, I realized that moving to a city and pursing art was pointless, I still make art and do it but it wont be a career, Invested in crypto in 2013 and the GME stocks and have 3$ million and a house. Invest in your future

>>15947432
I love you just heard Mexico and assumed there must be cartels. This would be like a person saying they're moving to long island and being like "watch out for the gangs :)"
Retard

>>15947289
"Y'alls"


I heard the centre of Chernobyl is nice this time of year.

>>15947580
>I invested in crypto when I was 18 and GME two weeks ago and now I'm a millionaire and fuck mad bitches and have a house

>>15947324
while Mexico is way cheaper, you have to take into account that the average income for a college graduate is 600 dlls a month, which equals to 12,000 pesos. I am not kidding.
Unless you have external income from the US or Europe. You are gonna have a bad time here, since those 600 dlls a month places are unattainable for the average person.

t. lives in Mexico City

>>15948003
I never said that, I’m sayin. That instead of chasing this thing of being Effay you should focus on making money before you’re a 35 year old trying to make it big

>>15947324
>>15947315
mexico city lots of cool shit, however the pollution is so fucking bad, you'll definitely get some kind of health issues living there longterm. + it's very fucking crowded.

>>15947580
i wish i could make art
you have no idea how lucky you are to have a soul man

>>15948151
just learn to dj or something, close enough

>>15948151
>i wish i could make art

im the same poster anyone can do It i do it because its fun and enjoyable, Im not good at it. I feel thanks to my parents thou they told me i wasnt good enough for art and that I should accept my football scholarship instead and it worked out

>>15948070
>you should focus on making money before you’re a 35 year old
Waste away your youth wageslaving? And then youll be a rich ol geezer

>>15947289
Chad SEXcore city

>>15948165
its not a dichotomy, you can do both. But moving to a place as a creative especially with the internet is a waste of time, if your art is good it will speak for itself wherever you are, most peoples art is not good and they waste years of their life

>>15948161
i didnt have parents that encouraged shit and if anything they actively tried to stop me from going to school and doing well. i worked hard academically and busted my ass, went to a good school for a good degree. Ive never found a job. I feel completely unsatisfied. I killed any burgeoning creative interests I had as a kid for this dream and now i have nothing. everything sounds hollow. I have no skills whatsoever. i have no ideas

>>15948171
you fell for the school meme, I went but the most important part is socializing and being able to make connections, just work construction last summer I was a general labourer and made 38/hour

>>15948168
Yeah you're right i guess anything artistic is a waste of time i should focus on shit that brings me no joy or satisfaction like owning a good house making good money having a family playing video games watching movies

I am not satisfied by any traditional avenue or definition of success.

>>15948176
>Yeah you're right i guess anything artistic is a waste of time i should focus on shit that brings me no joy or satisfaction like owning a good house making good money having a family playing video games watching movies

did you even listen to what I said?

Yeah

I just got an apartment in zone 1 London which feels pretty effay
Very clean, everyone is posh and the architecture is beautiful

>>15947289
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>>15947324
If you think about Spain, I'd reconsider Barcelona , which is an overpriced mecca of getrification where everyone will look at you over the shoulder unless you learn Catalan. If you like that zone I'll pick Balear or Valencia. If you don't need a warmer weather and a warmer sea, Id pick Bilbao , pic related

>>15947580
>Invested in crypto in 2013 and the GME stocks and have 3$ million and a house.
No you don't

>>15948720
3$ in total assets dipshit, not 3$mil in my bank

>>15947334
nothing. all of florida is a humid hellhole with 0 culture and filled with filthy cubans, geriatrics, and swamp people

>>15948754
post house

>>15947580
investing in crypto in 2021 is fucking retarded

>>15948766
its 1.2mil in area near toronto

>>15948775
no its not lel, its only getting better

>>15948778
>>15948766
btw this isnt my exact house but they make them very similar here

>>15948783
Nice LARP

>>15948786
cope and seethe breh

>>15948787
post pic with a timestamp in the house

bump

Vilnius

>>15947289
ITT we post American cities even tho the USA hasn't been /fa/ since the blue jeans.

>>15948237
how much do you pay ? like 6k a month ?

>>15952320
around 1300 a month

>>15952329
thats cheap af, good looks g

>>15952329
1300 is pretty good for zone 1 i guess
the funniest thing is that apartments in zone 6 still cost like 800 minimum

>>15952333
>>15952336
I actually pay WAY less and it's in the BEST area in central London (can't say much more though for obvious reasons)
it's a studio so we have one living room, a kitchen and a bathroom on the top floor of a building
feels effay man

>>15952338
just say how much you pay lmao
for which obvious reasons ? you think if we know the area we will dox you ? theres millions of people living in london, get a grip

>>15952347
I've been on 4chan since 2008 mate, you would be surprised how easy it is to dox someone

>>15952351
so if you say 'i live in mayfair' we will know exactly where and who you are, got it schizo

>>15952353
not far off so for intensive purposes I live in Mayfair

>>15952338
nice
I'm cautiously optimistic concerning covid fallout lowering rents significantly, pre-covid I feel that the gentrification taking place was bleeding London dry of lower income creative types (some say London is dead already). Hopefully things will start improving

>>15952338
how did you get it though ?

>>15952371
my place is basically like a small version of Bateman's apartment in American psycho and I'm paying pennies for it
I 100% would not have been able to afford it if rent prices didn't drop massively due to covid especially because my gf and I work min wage (both furloughed and I'm working while on furlough thank god)
also London isn't dead at all, you can live a very nice effay life here, annoys me that people conflate effay with lower middle class people that live in filth, you don't have to live a 90s camden lifestyle to be fashionable and 2000s Shoreditch proved this
>>15952374
just check Rightmove. you will be SHOCKED at the places you can get.

>>15952389
how much do you pay though ? sounds pretty unrealistic if you ask me. do you think they will raise rent when covid is over ?

>>15952393
let's just say I pay between £500 - £650 (split with my gf)
if you make min wage and do 40 hours thats 1/3 of your income for a studio in a place in which your neighbors are all earning 6 figures
if you ask me, rents will stay low for 1 or 2 years but if you sign a long lease you won't have to worry about it for a while

>>15952401
so you pay like 300 for a 60m2 rootop penthouse ? damn, you lucky af

>>15952405
no retard, I pay around £1300
£300 a month rent is sharing a single room in a flat share you mong
how old are you?
and I don't live in a penthouse either

>>15952409
>I pay between £500 - £650 (split with my gf)
shouldve clarified that lmao

>>15952410
sorry I thought it would be blindingly obvious that was my share of the rent and she pays the same especially as I said I pay around £1300 earlier
how old are you though

>>15950577
Nice

>>15952338
I want to move back to London. How did you land the flat, did you have connections or just luck?

>>15947289
Paris, obviously

>>15952389
>annoys me that people conflate effay with lower middle class people that live in filth, you don't have to live a 90s camden lifestyle to be fashionable and 2000s Shoreditch proved this
idk lad, for a start lower middle class people don't really live in filth. The fact of the matter is that for a while now the only people who have been able to afford to consistently pursue art/music/misc. creative stuff in London is people with rich parents - it's simply not affordable to work 3 days a week as a barista/etc. and spend the rest of your time making stuff anymore. I definitely feel that this has changed creative scenes within the city for the worse - with a lot of trust fund kid stuff there's an air of pretentiousness that I can't relate to, and when the only people who are really doing stuff in the city for the most part are said trust fund kids, starts to feel a little bit dire and like there's not much for me to check out
That said I did find a studio in Deptford for £850 on Rightmove, if I searched for places just outside Deptford could probably find something even cheaper

>>15952571
>>15952587
like I said already
you can afford rent a VERY nice studio (and I mean very nice, not a one bed but a nice studio that isn't a hallway with a kitchen) due to rent dropping like crazy
of course you need a job to do so which is tough now but if you're on furlough it should be easy to land a nice place

>>15952599
Sure, my point of reference is pre-Covid
What's crazy is that I'm looking for places in Zone 6 to compare and they aren't any cheaper
Let's hope rents don't rise again haha

>>15948168
>they waste years of their life
It's hard to tell if the years you spend navigating your creative impulses are actually a waste. Sometimes those "wasted years" turn out to be the vital moments in life that spark a project or plant the seed for some kind of creative revelation. Maybe it was David Lynch (or someone else - who knows) that said in order to be creative, you've got to dedicate yourself to wasting an inordinate amount of time. That's how you catch ideas.

>>15948176
Wow what a dishonest reading

>>15952605
rents have gone quite a lot, by at least 10%
just sign a 2 year lease and factor in a 10% increase in the future, should be fine

>>15947289
What do you study?
For Europe
>Warsaw
>Vienna
>Strassburg
>Budapest
>Munich
>Bucharest
Also not being polyglot is uneffay af.

>>15952635
>Warsaw
motherfucker what is wrong with you
t. warszawiak

On another note, does anybody know good cities to do a pHd/postdoc in? I want out of this shithole

>>15952979
Which field?

bump

Berlin

>>15954769
Bruh you realize that 60-70% of the city are absolutely disgusting mess? Spandau, Marzahn, Lichtenberg, Reinickendorf, most of Pankow are uneffay af.

>>15954996
moabit is straight up disgusting too, lived there for 6 months after living by storkowerstr for 2 years

>>15954996

dutifully noted

>>15947289
you realize that as a western male you can't just move to another country without any valuable education and no in demand skills?

>>15953433
medical research
cancer genomics

>>15955127
Moabit is literally Marzahn with arabs.

Red pill me on what's wrong with Paris or Geneva. Other than Muslims.

>>15950577
no, foreigners fuck off from my capital

>>15957517
Niggers

>>15957523
>my capital

hope you're russian or polish

>>15957517
>Geneva
So boring. It's a corporate shithole.

Paris is seriously underrated. I wouldn't take seriously what anyone on 4chan ever says about this city.

West Buckhead Atlanta is amazingly effay.

The hardest part is getting a work visa / access to the country in general, especially with covid. Without your citizenship how can we make suggestions? Otherwise, like, idk, New Zealand is beautiful. Go there.

prague is the coolest city in my opinion, but you kinda need a good job to survive, there are many cities in the world worth living in. i feel like youll see the most of them if you live around europe (especially if you want to go to college, there are a lot of international colleges)

>>15958226
Prague suffers from insane over tourism unfortunately. In Czech Krumlov is the most effay city. Upgrade of Prague is Budapest which is imo the prettiest capital in whole Europe.

>>15947289
kek the picture you posted must be the only effay place in Santaigo

>>15947289
London or Paris, no poorfags and larpers allowed

>>15950577
I like Kaunas better

>>15957606
He’s Lithuanian

>>15958662
>>15958671
yikes

bump

>>15958662
>>15958671

>>15958310
Prague and Budapest are two cities I desperately want to visit.

>>15948168
couldn't agree less, the internet has done nothing but exacerbate the issues inherent to trying to "come up" as in artist
>if your art is good it will speak for itself
is a fallacy belying the fact that regardless of how good you are you're reliant on luck to actually get the widespread interest needed to turn art into something viable

you can speed things up by slowly cultivating an audience, since the larger your reach is the higher your chances of the powers that be deciding to recognize you for your work, but contrary to what one would think the internet has not made that process any easier. you either cuck yourself and hope that the algorithm blesses you by putting your work in front of as many people as possible or do exactly the same things you would be before the internet, i.e. embedding yourself in the scene, networking with other artists and the types of people that like your type of art, and trying to grow organically that way. nothing is different, it's just digital instead of in person. not to mention that getting people to at least try to experience your art is much easier if you know them in real life, even if only as an acquaintance, so a often times the people supporting you online literally are the people supporting you in real life, or at least overlap with them

moving to somewhere with an art scene is still as important as ever for all artists. i can't see the point in just trying to make money, so what if i have who knows how much money and a house? how would my life be any more fulfilled than it is now? investing in a future where my life is as sad and unfulfilled as it is now is hardly an investment at all. having a little crypto or something on the side is one thing but i'd rather off myself than relegate my art to something i just "do". what's really more of a waste, moving to the city and spending my youth at least trying to make it as an artist or spending my youth trying to make money and ending up just as sad i am now?

>>15958662
>>15958671

>>15960454
both full of tourists that ruin any photos of anything.

My advice in Prague is get all the charles bridge sightseeing done asap and then get out of Prague 1 and see the rest of the city, once you leave Prague 1 the tourists drop 95%

>>15960923
Bullshit, Budapest isn't even half as full, helps that the tourist spots aren't all located in one fucking district. I worked in Praha 1 for quite some time, left for Brno afterwards as I couldn't stand Ruskies and chinks on each mil of land.