/fa/ - Fashion

>>15930827

>>15930827
dunno i think she would be fun for a drink and a shag

>>15930850
Yeah but then you would have to pretend to care about animals and acab and blm. I cant fake it anymore bros. I cant keep living a lie!

>>15930856
fuck and dump

>>15930845
what is that knee

>>15930845
tran

>>15930827
>>15930845
I want to dislike these pale liberal retards but honestly they make me so hard

>>15930845
>>15930827
Mentally ill females

>>15930827
1 night only

It's sad how completely the ZOG captured youth and alternative culture with "progressivism".
The ones with the most energy and the most to gain from rebelling are convinced that being a slave is "progressive".

>>15930892
'''"females"'''

>>15930827
Bros how do I talk to libtards. Can anyone give me tips. Her profile said she wants to dismantle capitalism so I made a joke and now she won't respond.

>>15931218
How about you dont contact people who make p*litics part of their personality at all instead?

>>15931218
>going right to talking about politics on a dating app

You can tell this guy gets laid lol...

>>15931226
It was literally the only thing her profile said that I could talk about ! Lol.

>>15931233
It doesn't matter. You don't even go there in general with women you know.

What do you expect some rabid leftist girl to say? Oh you visited a communist country and it was bad, I have changed my mind and hate communism now?

Never going to happen. Facts, logic and reality do not work on people so deep into ideology.

>>15931218
>>15931233
you say "ye, f-fuck the capitalism amirite?"
then you fuck
at her place
and never call back
idiot

>>15931218
Lol based retard.

>>15931218
>Are you an anti communist?
>Yeah. But-
retard

>>15931283
What's wrong with being against communism? Why the FUCK would anyone be for it?

>>15930827
Fany

>>15930845
Izzy

>>15931285
"b-but!"
your words bear no weight
your voice imposes no authority

your dick is chapped as a result

>>15931304
Ok i think I get it. Thank you.

>>15931218
have you not seem her profile pic or something? That's a 4 at best

>>15931314
Dude I'll fuck anything that moves.

>>15931326
retard even if that's how you feel it's obviously not what she wants to hear, you type like a sperg asshole too

Hot take: tattoos are almost always mental illness manifesting

>>15931326
Being desperate and having no self respect are very attractive traits, I'm sure you will have great success

>>15931336
>15 year old who doesn't fit in with his peer group take

>>15931314
How do you justify/cope with your extremely high standards

>>15931218
Yeah talking about politics on the app means you’re never meeting up

>>15931361
The post is the cope

>>15931218
By not talking about politics you fucking retard.
This is the same kind of people that I see later at /r9k/ complaining about not getting laid when the only one (1) requirement is not being socially handicapped.>>15931225

>>15931353
just prove him wrong if you can

>>15931336
Lukewarm take. This is obvious. However, I’ve met some good people/intelligent people who happened to have tattoos. I’d say it follows the Pareto principle in terms of distribution.

>>15931361
I've my fair share of shameful fucks; at some point you decide to treat yourself with respect and in turn elevate your standards. That doesn't mean that people you find attractive will like you back, you do end up finding some who do and didn't lose time/energy chasing after subpar specimens.
Theres no need to justify having high standards, you deserve the best you can get. If anything needs justifying, it's hitting on 4's

>>15931400
Spoken like a true redditor.

>>15931393
That's not how the pareto principle works retard

>>15931410
Takes one to know one!!!!!!!

>>15931045
It goes both ways, I'm a zoomer and I used to date a chick who made me read mein kampf in German to her before bed. I'm not even particularly nazi or racist, but it got me hard. Politically extreme viewpoints but never actually acting on them is the new norm. The zog kids who at most follow woke twitter accounts are as politically impactful as the nazi kids who talk about Hitler but don't dare to say nigger around black people in public. It's a weird time we live in man.

>>15931421
So what's tour takeaway from the book?

>>15931410
It sounds euphoric but it's not wrong. Lower standards do need justifying more than high ones

>>15931447
Only got through part of the first volume, not as much "genocide the jews" as I expected, mostly just stuff about his childhood, with mentions of the jews being parasites. Was pretty boring desu, and my German wasn't/isn't good enough to bother reading the entire thing seriously. She didn't know German that well either it was mostly just for shits and giggles.

>>15931218
You pretty much just told her you want to suck Jeff Bezo's dick. Stop simping for billionaires. That shit is gay.

And Communism isn't liberal, retard.

>>15931622
Hey I make lots of money thanks to capitalism. Rope yourself pussy. Just because you aren't smart enough or don't work hard enough doesn't mean you can talk shit about people who do.

>>15931642
You're ignorant and naive. Obviously, capitalism does not reward hard work. Anyone with half a brain knows that. It's childish that you believe such an obviously false fairy-tale.

>>15931806
Why is it always poor lazy people who don't like capitalism. Its always like batistas and bar tenders and artists and shit.

>>15931899
Not whoever you're replying to but I've made more money in the last two years with speculative investments than I had as a woodworker for five years.
Financial success im a capitalist system is in no way linked to work

>>15931899
>Why don't poor people like capitalism
really makes you think.

>>15931806
You are a lazy American.
I live in a socialist country and you can't make jack shit here. Nothing grows here because the nanny state taxes everything beyond belief. Socialists have to make people poor so they need the Social state and state handouts.
fucking disgusting.

If it wasn't for the capitalistic anglo-sphere and the internet I would make no money rn. Capitalism rewards hardwork. It doesn't reward lazy wage cuck slaves. fuck you bitch

>>15931935
please explain how making money off the stock market is had work because I've never been so lazy and rich in my whole lofe

>>15930845
Those knees been through a lot of deep shit

>>15931984
the stock market is a small cancerous growth which the state tolerates.

the difference between investors and socialist production plan directors is the investors' lack of state backing. "oops haha go next!"
that is, of course, with the exception of the usa, which is a rabid hellhole anyways

>>15931218
lmao that's not a joke you just wanted to own the libs or whatever. damn have you ever got pussy before hahaha you fucking dork

>>15930827
>>15923661

>>15932082
>investors' lack of state backing.
They own the state. You naive retard. They buy and own the politicians. When they commit crimes, they don't get punished because they wrote the laws. When their investments go bad, the sate bails them out. The state doesn't 'tolerate' the cancer, the state has be wholly subsumed by it. That is capitalism.

>>15932051

>>15932107
This is the part where I blow cigar smoke in your face and you leave, humiliated, dejected and quite possibly suicidal.

>>15932112
Freud would correctly say that, that cigar represents Jeff Bezo's dick. Stop simping for billionaires, it's gay.

Crop tops and short shorts. Or short shorts and those tops that look like a bra. Every girl I've seen wear that has fake "fun" only, they're actually unfiulfilled, sad, and whoring as a coping mechanism.

>>15932123
Errata: you're not worthy of throwing yourself in a pool of mud for me to step on.

>>15932082
Before me there were Dutch traders making killing trading tulip bulbs. If anything, the stock market predates the state and I'd got so far as to say the state is entirely dependent on the market so that cancerous analogy of yours is way off mark.

/fa/ doesn't even pretend to be about fashion anymore

>>15932142
What the fuck is fashion?

I want an art hoe to seduce me with her visibly hard braless nipples under a thin white tanktop and her massive bush peeking out of the crotch of her too-high jean shorts
Is that too much to fucking ask

>>15931935
just stop being poor lol

>>15932238
>I want an art hoe to seduce me
That's problematic. You're not allowed to want that.

>>15932247
THAT MAKES ME WANT IT MORE
DAMN I WANT AN ART HOE TO SCOLD ME WHILE SHE HOLDS MY FACE INTO HER HAIRY ARMPITS GOD DAMN IT

>>15932123
Dude honestly why are you so obsessed with sucking dick ?

>>15931468
Thanks. Made me lol
.

>>15931218
lmao ever discussing politics with a woman .......

>>15931984
i make money by drawing lewd cartoon girls with big tits and hard cocks.

>>15932728
Because Alpha males rule the world and I hate being poor?

idk wtv this is

>>15933262
>>15933271
repulsive, good job

>>15931218
>be attractive
>be buff
>be apolitical

>>15931218
just say blah blah blah bernie sanders blah blah intersectionalism blah blah systematic oppression; their reality is just a series of buzzwords and mantras. don't focus on playing up to their libshit politics, drop a few lines about politics then get right to business. you should be making plans to meet within the first 4-5 messages, otherwise you're wasting your time.

>>15931218
you will never get pussy faggot

>>15933353
I'm attractive and ripped but right wing.

>>15931899
Usurers and middle-men love capitalism.

>>15931933
This guy understands.

>>15931984
This. I basically quit my job as a carpenter so I can lounge around and click buttons on my computer on occasion. Now I live more comfortably and am far less productive.

>>15934201
you deserve all the twinks.

>>15934201
>calls himself attractive and ripped
>doesnt post pics.

>>15934274
I would post myself. But I do that a lot here and I don't want you guys to hate me for being a nazi.

>>15930827
lol

>>15931218
What communist countries have you visited?

>>15931935
Where do you live?

>>15930892
Yea just say females bro lol

>>15931218
if she has her ig or snap in her bio send it our way

>>15933262
>>15933271
Is it typical for Insta thots to have no core style and instead just wear random outfits

>>15931218
>talking politics ever
>talking politics with a woman no less

>>15931899
Because they don't reap the benefits. The rich dont hate the rich

>>15934201
Based
Hope you arent a manwhore though, that shit is destructive to society.

>>15930827
Ole corny azz blade runner hooker lookin azz vegan but her pussy stank like mcdoubles no booty washing nasty ass wal mart curtain dress ass wearing nasty ass stank ass white bihhh cuz I'm done with yo animal rights leopard skin dumb white ass chickenhead

>>15931468
FUCK YES I've been scouring the internet looking for a compilation like this. Do you know how depressing it is to search "wife getting hit" "woman beat up" "woman slapped" and finding the same mediocre third world news report?

Gonna fap to this when I get home thanks based anon

>>15933353
why is this always the case

>>15936873
>anon learns that what women say and what they do are two totally separate things

wew

>>15936901
Hot god on the right. Who is the whore on the left?

>>15936910
Oh come on my dude! That is only the self described "beauty" on this board, tripfag "Me"

>>15936910
You know who that slutty barnyard dumbcumdump is

Remember that inside every art hoe there is potential for a trad wife, art hoes are very much into traditional feminine hobbies

>>15931218

>>15933353
literally this but u dont have to buff
i fuck plenty of art hoes cause we have similar music taste and i tune out all there political shit

>>15931244
baste

>>15935986
Laos, Vietnam, Cuba and hopefully nk one day.

>>15933353
If an ethnic woman starts talking about the patriarchy, marxism, and etc then she has basically taken the white man's world view. If you want to find a based ethnic women, find one that rejects feminism since feminism is inherently a white/jewish concept.

>>15930850
You are thinking crazy in the head and crazy in the bed, but those eyes tell should tell you that she crazy in the head and lazy in the bed

>>15937511
this

>>15931218
>talk
>not popping a 'cep
Never gonna make it

>>15931353
>daddyissues
>a guy

>>15933262
A beurette

>>15936873
>he blieves women

>>15931218
weird how the soviet union split up big landowners and gave parcels of private farmland to its citizens

>>15931326
Get some standards you sad cunt

>>15931622
homie on the right has something going on, that chick ain't even half fat :/c

>>15931218
Absolutely based response but you should've avoided politics. Libtard pussy is top tier but you have to be on eggshells to get it.

>>15933262
>Russians are blackwashing now

>>15931381
Eeee I ALMOST had everything I didnt ask to be autistic REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>15933353
Wow thats literally me

>>15930856
But I do care about those things.

>>15930827
honestly these are the some of only kind of women who don't bore me to death, we can be mentally ill together. you don't have to talk about politics with people you can just have fun

>>15940139
Fag. You don't belong on 4chan

>>15940139
Loser

>>15938848
>"I'm literally attractive!"
Really you don't say

>>15940345
4chan is for anyone who craves anonymity, not just serial killers, bro.

>>15931218
Based. Actually having sex with commies is just asking for STDs.

>>15940373
Well, as long as you accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior you can sleep around without fear of pregnancy or illness.
I read it in the bible!

>>15931899
I’ve noticed a lot of the socialists I know grew up very comfortable and upper middle class. I assume it’s because money has just always been there for them so they think that should be the norm generally, not really understanding that they would have grown up poor under a socialist regime.

>>15936362
>yeah,most women are sheep and go by what works(gives them attention)

this is what the average college student with clout in Southern Europe looks like

>>15935991
Portugal

>>15940563
it's Zara-core, it's a thing everywhere

>>15931218
what 0 pussy does to a mf

>>15937389
Not communist

>>15940565
Not communist

>>15937389
Why would Vietnam and Cuba make you become anti-communist? Those countries have inspirationally persevered despite suffering massively under the bootheel of American hegemony and capitalist imperialism.

>>15931218
>decentralization of power and property
AHAHAHAHAHA also everyone knows you never visited a communist country and youre 21

>>15937355
You can fuck someone just because you have the same music taste?

>>15940760
That's literally the point of music festivals

>>15940364
you seem like the kind of person who hates the idea of anonymity and free speech

>>15940652
>>15940657
Holy fuck if those places are already that bad imagine how awful actual communsim is

>>15940764
I can smell the herpes from here

>>15940778
China is pretty based my dude, higher gdp pp then USA

>>15940825
>higher gdp pp
suck my pp

>>15940806
Virgin Ass nigga

>>15940825
But they're also ugly and small people

>>15940657
"Socialism is the path for Communist" -Lenin
>red communism
>pink socialism
>blue and yellow socialism that larps as center right.

Communist villages in the south have literally stagnated.There has been no growth since the 40's or more.

>>15940836
>>15940843
Seethe, your envy of productive forces is manifesting your stupidity

>>15940852
Yes there has retard. You have no idea what you're talking about

>>15940774
I'm >>15940139 and you're wrong, hearing about how 4chan was anonymous and pro free speech is what made me come here to begin with. Those are still my favourite parts of 4chan.

>>15936873
because they treat politics like a funny label they just use to joke around in parties :)

>>15940868
uh oh, ecological collapse is calling

>>15931218
man you type like a complete fucking autist no wonder you don;t get pussy

>>15932123
based LMAO

>>15941207
How am I supposed to type?

>>15934327
>being this much of a pussy

>>15931218
always feels good knowing you racists fucks never get laid.

Have sex. Oh wait no one wants to date right wing incels

HAHAHAHHAHA

>>15941232

>>15932051
>>15930871
Spending too much time on her knees

>>15941220
OK FINE REEEEEEE

>>15940139
Based.

>>15931468
Based

>>15931218
damn if you reread this and then don't understand how it signals onions there's no hope for you. Being an anxiety ridden troll works for no one homie.

>>15941283
>Ripped
lmao

Bros i need ur help again. This chick said one of her interests was landlord tenant law and it turns out I'm a landlord! But now she won't respond. Wat do?

>>15941340
She thinks I'm evil or something.. man I don't get these chicks at all bros!

>>15941340
>I'm a landlord
>wat do?
rope

>>15941340
You could always repent and kill yourself

>>15941365
Why?

>>15941369
you are a socioeconomic parasite

>>15941386
he’s just making money

>>15941386
You know how many people I have evicted over the years?

>>15941389
that's the point, landlords don't actually make something useful for society they just withhold something necessary (housing) and make money off the fact that they own it

>>15931218
>>15941340
>>15941343
i understandn the sentiment but this is so gay

>>15941393
Oh God even you guys think I'm evil!

>>15941398
quit whining and get a real job lol

>>15941407
Lol nah this job easy af desu senpai.

>>15941393
this is not an argument against landlords at all it is just an argument for rent entitling some equity. When renters find out how little that is they won't care again and will go back to consuming any amount they have extra of their income, like the rest of us poors.

the only thing that matters structurally (>80%) is income level and distribution, but globalism can't be ratcheted back

>>15941396
if they had banter it'd be worth but it's reddit tier

>>15941340
>>15941343
She is based as fuck death to all parasites

>>15941499
the landlord stuff under mao wasn't cool man :(

>>15941514
Mao was a fucking hero every single one deserved it

>>15941523
Their families didn't, even if you're psychotic enough to think that being a landlord makes you deserve to be tortured to death.

>>15931218
this is the cringiest conversation start I've ever read in my life

>>15941544
Best stop expropriating wealth then ay else it'll be your family too

>>15931218
my dude uses tinder on a browser on his phone

>>15941735
Bro I'm banned from every other app. I had to use my work cell for this. The app knows I'm banned lol.

>>15941736
Why?

>>15941735
the funniest part of this cringefest

>>15941218
Try and actually flirt lmao. Commie girls love a guy who seems like he's provoking them, so long as he's actually funny and comes across like a good guy. But you just come across as weird.

>>15931218
what works for me is pretending not to care at al. if they ask me abt some retarded blm shit i just pull out the ol reliable
"i dont know enough to comment"
"i dont really care about american poltiics"
then go heil hitler when they leave

>>15931218
Only fitting that the defender of meritocracy gets no pussy whatsoever.
It's a fitting punishment for Incels.
If you didn't realize defending capitalism is akin to nazism at this point, your social skills are beyond help.

>>15941340
>>15941343
>noooo you cant OWN something

>>15941398
Ignore them. What else should there be? No rental homes and just homes that people can't afford to buy outright? Not everyone can afford to buy a house.

>>15941799
dilatate

>>15941544
>Their families didn't, even if you're psychotic enough to think that being a landlord makes you deserve to be tortured to death.

What a load of shit. Five generations in every direction at a general minimum. It's 2021 and there are absolutely no remaining excuses for this shit. If you want passive income you should've started an onlyfans, faggot.

>>15941799
>Only fitting that the defender of meritocracy gets no pussy whatsoever.
The invisible hand guides the pussy market.

>>15940383
Cuts both ways, richfags think that anyone can get what they have but they're fucking stupid and fail to recognize the 1,000 opportunities they got in life add up and not everyone has big comfy cushions in the back of their mind knowing that they can throw money at most of the problems life gives them

>>15941799
Just reading your replies reminds me of a teenager or some dumb college kid. This is your cringe political phase that everyone goes through. Youre not unique and anything that youve said has already been discussed for years. Youll grow out of it

>>15941340
Damn you really owned her man. Have you gotten laid yet?

>>15942527
Childhood is believing that meritocracy is a myth. And that poverty and wealth inequality is bad. Adulthood is wanting to suck Jeff Bezo's dick and believing that poor people suffering is based.

>>15940139
BASED

>>15942370
>fail to recognize the 1,000 opportunities they got in life
Absolutely this, kek when I was a kid I was a lefty and even then I didn't realise how fucking lucky I'd been. Ofc basically everyone I knew was right wing and outright believed that if you were working class it was your fault and you shouldn't have decided to be born like that.

>>15932247
Manic Pixie Dream Girls certainly exist, there were plenty at Cambridge when I was an undergrad. The small print, of course, is that they're all ugly and borderline with low-grade eating disorders. And are occasionally hypomanic.

>>15943881
>ugly and borderline with low-grade eating disorders. And are occasionally hypomanic.
Fuel for my erection

>>15942527
The absolute lack of introspection is hilarious.

>>15931899
>artists and shit.
I'm an artist, I fucking love capitalism. You can't make a living as one without it. My dumb peers are the opposite and aren't getting anywhere.

>>15943943
Cringe

>>15943948
ngmi

>>15930827
Is she wearing an upside down shower curtain as a skirt?

>>15943943
>I'm an artist
show painting or gtfo

>>15943943
Congrats on making so much money by drawing furry porn. Did you know that the The Paris Review was a CIA cut-out during the Cold War. It was used to surreptitiously push abstract art into the mainstream, to combat socialist realism style art? That's pretty interesting, isn't it?

>>15943907
hahaha thats great, this is the best summary ive seen so far of the inner world of the common white man of america these days

>>15940825
China adopted free trade zones because they couldn't make central planing work. They also send ethnic minorities to reeducation centers.

>>15944087
>They also send ethnic minorities to reeducation centers.
Just the islamists, to teach them to not be terrorists anymore. It's OK. It's literally a good thing that they do that.

>>15931642
Bro all that money and you still don't know just to shut your mouth and go along with it to get laid.

>>15931899
Bar tenders and baristas work their asses off, honestly bankers and middle management are way lazier and much more $$$

>>15931899
boomer detected

i feel like op made this thread to vent his frustration with the fact that he's getting 0 matches on tinder

>>15944162
Your understanding of money is wrong.

Money = value.

Value is not defined by hard work or working your ass off, it is defined generally by what the public deem value as.

So people will think hey this cleaner works 14 hours each day working their ass off, why are they paid so little?

It's because they are not seen as high value and can be replaced in a second.

Meanwhile a singer can simply sing for a few hours and make thousands upon thousands and not be working their ass off simply because the public see them as high value which generates money.

You have a poor people mindset and that's how you stay poor. If I just work REALLY HARD I WILL BE RICH..

No. You will not. Because money and being rich means you are perceived as high value and not because you work hard. hard work does not = high value = which = money.

So the whole "a bar tender works harder than a banker and thus should be paid more" is not how money works as it is based of value and not hard work.

Now if this is right or wrong, is not the question. But you can't change a system without understanding a system and and until the public or average person on the streets see a bar tender as HIGH VALUE then nothing can change.

>>15944162
Your understanding of money is wrong.

Money = value.

Value is not defined by hard work or working your ass off, it is defined generally by what the public deem value as.

So people will think hey this cleaner works 14 hours each day working their ass off, why are they paid so little?

It's because they are not seen as high value and can be replaced in a second.

Meanwhile a singer can simply sing for a few hours and make thousands upon thousands and not be working their ass off simply because the public see them as high value which generates money.

You have a poor people mindset and that's how you stay poor. If I just work REALLY HARD I WILL BE RICH..

No. You will not. Because money and being rich means you are perceived as high value and not because you work hard. Hard work does not = high value = which = money.

So the whole "a bar tender works harder than a banker and thus should be paid more" is not how money works as it is based off value and not hard work.

Now if this is right or wrong, is not the question. But you can't change a system without understanding a system and and until the public or average person on the streets see a bar tender as HIGH VALUE then nothing can change.

>>15944203
I'll even add real world examples here.

I work as a Chef. Long and hard hours. Often in a non-stop environment.

Now am I paid $1000 per hour? Nope. What happens here? People call me out for being a simple Chef.

They see me as NOT HIGH VALUE and thus my payment for my work is not high.

So the system some of you people are against, you contribute to it, because you do not understand it.

Once more. High pay has nothing to do with HARD WORK. It has everything to do with VALUE.

>>15940139
cringe
>>15941288
cringe
>>15943589
cringe

>>15944212
>>15944203
Why'd you use so many words for such a bland, obvious truism? You didn't make a novel point or a smart observation. Literally everybody knows that shit. Literally everyone.

>>15941767
why do you think?

>>15944238
I guess they know about it as well as your usage of the word literally, huh?

99% of people do not understand the concept of money. Even people itt are talking about how people "work their ass off" and get paid less than those that don't. Which is no surprise at all if you understand money.

Let me guess, you own more properties than me? Lol. OK whatever.

>>15944246
Oh actually I'm pretty sure I've been banned from them all cuz you know when a chick uses a picture with their tits out? I'll usually start the conversation by saying "hey nice tits". Pretty sure this is why.

>>15944215
cringe

>>15944249
Everything you wrote is same capitalist realism 'just-so story' everybody knows. You didn't just discover this idea. It's been cultural osmosised into your brain for your entire life. 'The value you earn in a capitalist system is determined by the value you create.' No shit. Everybody understands that's how it is. What people are saying, what the critique of capitalism is, is that it's bullshit. That UNDERSTAND that idea. But they believe it's wrong. Obviously it's wrong. Obviously you're wrong. Capitalism does not reward value creation. It rewards exploitation, hoarding, rent-seeking, corruption, negative externalities, etc. That's why your dumb 'VALUE' lecture is dumb. You believe in a childishly simplistic fairy-tale. You don't really understand. You don't get it.

>>15944292
I LITERALLY do not understand what the fuck you are talking about. Go be cringe some other place lol.

>It's been cultural osmosised into your brain for your entire life

What a weirdo.

>>15944292
>You didn't just discover this idea.

Strawman. I simply said it was a poor peoples mindset that hard work equates to great wealth.

>The value you earn in a capitalist system is determined by the value you create

Which has LITERALLY fuck all to do with capitalism. All societies base payment upon how they value someone or what their worth is in said society.

The blacksmith and the warrior both earn more than the breadmaker because their society deemed them higher value. This has nothing to do with capitalism.

>what the critique of capitalism is, is that it's bullshit. That UNDERSTAND that idea.

No they really do not. Each "anti-capitalist" moans about how the hard worker earns less and blames the system, when a system of value has always existed. Equal pay can not exist because there is no such notion of equal value, you're barking up the wrong tree.

They talk about how pay should either be equal or how the hard worker should gain greater reward and yet there is no definitive measure of "hard work" and it often just means who does more physical work which is a nonsensical concept of what hard work is.

>Capitalism does not reward value creation. It rewards exploitation, hoarding, rent-seeking, corruption, negative externalities, etc.

BLAH BLAH BLAH, TEENAGERS FIRST MARXISM RANT.

Cry me a river bitch. I rent out properties so stay MAD.

>>15943907
the left really cant meme. so much text to say nothing of value.

>>15943907
This image is so awful. Autism on turbo drive.

>>15943907
more than half of the population evidently didn't vote for trump twice you fucking gorilla

>>15943907
I am a young woman who holds the same beliefs that have been status quo for thousands of years and are also held by both more than half of the voting population and most of my representatives in the government. I echo talking points from the biggest news outlets in the US and every meme I see on twitter without thinking critically about them or checking the facts. I feel as if I am being disenfranchised and targeted because people who have been oppressed throughout the world's history are seeking protections and representation. Anyone who disagrees with me politically is literally a nazi and a misogynist and should be executed.

t. libtard

>>15943907
when will they learn

>>15944203
>>15944212
>money = value
so if i get rich, hire a bunch of employees, and pay them twice as much as the next guy, their work has suddenly doubled in value? if i resell my shirt to some gullible person, is it suddenly twice as valuable?

of course not. purchasing decisions are contingent and subjective. but a product doesn't become better or worse when people decide to buy it, or change the price. that's silly. so we need a better definition of value.

value can be divided into use value (how much the consumer gains from a good/service), labor value (how much work & raw material it takes to produce a good/service), and exchange value (what you're describing).

exchange value isn't the "true" value of a good --- it's just whatever someone happens to be paying at a given time. use value is what normal people actually mean when they say "value." it's why we're more likely to buy things on sale.

a toaster will save me $20 of work, but it's not worth buying for $100. if it goes on sale for $10, then i gain more use value than i lose exchange value. in other words, i profit. that's why the toaster is suddenly worth buying.

of course, use value is almost as subjective as exchange value. so the only objective measure of value is labor value. but use value most accurately reflects what we mean by "worth" something.

t. econ student

also
>namefagging

>>15944289
cringe

>>15930827
>23
she looks abused and at least 33 with 2 aborts and 1 nigglet

>>15930845
what's his name?

>>15945883
Post hairline

>>15945890
clearly says Izzy

>>15945518
labor value (outside of marxist bs makebelieve world) is just the same as exchange value in terms of reaching consensus - if the worker is willing to work for such price/time/share his skills etc, he is evaluating himself that much, the first price is set in general by the guy who is paying, but he can be wrong, and soon he will find out if he is wrong, generally ofc he will under-value the worker's pay, and generally the worker will overvalue his pay too.
We can see that in play when we speak of minimum viable (living) wage and reasonable pay (such that can afford you a car, house and looking after a family, even saving). The thing is everyone wants to work for at least the second one - being able to spent, save and invest. But most people will work for whatever is available in the region/city etc.
Again, if you are not a marxist and don't blame "capitalism" for everything, you can see that even if the employee, the worker, is right about his evaluation - he have no choice but to work under his expectation for a while (until he is able to get promotion or move to different position, place of work or change professions etc.).
At the same time, the employer is either assessing his whole idea of value based on his expenses and profit expectations (usually long term, it might be unprofitable short term), or he is simply looking for others in that field and what they are doing, or combination of both and more factors.

So if you get rich and pay twice as much, you'd be paying twice as much, you have no guarantee over their work as a value, probably they'd be happy to work for you and there will be some factor in doing better work, than the lowest paid employees of such kind employed by the next guy. But simply paying them more doesnt increase their value. Their value is determined by the combination of the market, and your use of them.

Also reddit spacing is hurting my eyes, pls anon

>>15945893

>>15941393
incorrect, landlords shoulder the risk of a building off of developers. landlords deal with the maintenance and distribution of housing and allow the developers to focus on building shit.

>>15942610
Is that zizek?

>>15945925
>if the worker is willing to work for such price/time/share his skills etc, he is evaluating himself that much,
That's one of those retarded presuppositions economists make. It's just a naive, childish, fairly-tale that pretends to explain how things work. It's the explanation that useful-idiots rubes like you fall for. It's not how things ACTUALLY work in reality. Obviously. In a capitalist system, employers and workers do not have parity of power. Their relationship is massively lopsided and unequal. In the real world, there is exploitation, there are coercive forces. Wages are driving down by lobbying, union busting and covert agreements between the ruling elite. It is not a fair-market. Clearly it isn't. For the vast majority, a worker does not willingly sell their labour based on his 'evaluation'. He sells his labour to whoever will buy and for whatever price they decide to pay. You make it sound like an almost 50/50 agreement between the worker and employer. It's more like 99/1 in the employers favour. That obvious truth is pretty much the exemplar class-struggle.

>>15946136
based

>>15946136
>He sells his labour to whoever will buy and for whatever price they decide to pay.
exactly what I am saying

>You make it sound like an almost 50/50 agreement between the worker and employer.

is what you are projecting

Employers have the saying, even if they are wrong, and governments who step in and/or unions who "negotiate" can play in favor for the worker. But thats short term, Employers even then have the upper hand and moving away from the region, state, country etc. is quite possible, and the evidence of that is the slave labor you have going on right now in China - go ahead and unionize for higher pay there.
The class struggle is such a meme, it didnt exist back then, it never existed the last 100 years either. It's just a naive, childish, fairly-tale that pretends to explain how things work.. It's the explanation that useful-idiots rubes like you fall for. It's not how things ACTUALLY work in reality. Obviously. In a capitalist system people are free to trade their private property as they wish, as long as they don't harm others or are in no obstruction to the rule of law. No such system existed in the west for quite some time now, it's mostly regulated and entrenched industries. It's a IQ struggle of the poor and stupid, vs the smart, skillful workers who don't remain a handyman past his 30 and opens his own business to hire more ppl.
What a tranny take seriously.

>>15946243
woah based

>>15945925
this

>>15945518
cringe

>>15946136
double cringe

materialistic outlook ruins your brain

>>15946243
wrong and cringe

>>15940868
Tell Xi Dada, that nigga looks like Winnie the Pooh

>>15944292
>Capitalism does not reward value creation. It rewards exploitation, hoarding, rent-seeking, corruption, negative externalities, etc.
What if I tell you it rewards all the things you mentioned as well as value creation? And it’s on you to choose your path to wealth. Or is personal responsibility oppressive to you?

>>15941232
How many people are willing to fuck open wounds?

>>15941340
She's fucking fat.

Why is it so obvious half of you guys have never had sex or read a single actual book on economics? I expected some level of pseudo-insight, but you're doing a pretty shite job at even that.

>>15931468
listening to psy gangnam style to this

>>15932111
kek'ing

>>15940139
fag

>>15931393
>I’d say it follows the Pareto principle in terms of distribution.

>>15941310
give me "receding hairline for 500"

>>15941706
I guess you automatically become a redditor if you rent an apartment.

>>15945945
im sorry he made you post this

>>15945346
This is just oozing seethe

>>15946435
If you told be that, I'd call you a 'retard'.
>personal responsibility
That's the exact thing I'm talking about. That's the childishly simplistic fairy-tale you wrongly believe is true. You ignorantly and naively believe that the current status quo of our society is fundamentally a 'just-world' meritocracy. That's what you're saying. But, of course it isn't. It clearly isn't. You're just dumb. You don't really understand anything.

>>15945518
>so if i get rich, hire a bunch of employees, and pay them twice as much as the next guy, their work has suddenly doubled in value?

This is autism right here. You're not an economics student, you're a left wing moron college student.

Here is a little tip. Every billionaire will say the exact same thing as me. I own 5 properties and have an estimated wealth of over 1 million dollars.

HURR IF I PAY MY WORKER TWICE AS MUCH HAS THEIR VALUE INCREASED DURR!! No. That's just you being a dumbass paying more than you have to.

You don't understand how the value system works. At all lol. Value is not set on an individual basis; it's set by the community and society.

Nice lap tho, kiddo.

Plus, me being a landlord who worked hard for what I have and gained no further education after HS due to going into the military is not the same as some privileged rich kid who had their parents give and pay for everything so they have many more options than me and did nothing to earn the property they rent out.

But HURR DURR PROPERTY OWNERS ALL DA EXACT SAME DURR!! MUH BRIAN IS LEAKING.

I was without a doubt poorer than any poster on this board growing up, I had no option but to join the military, I came close to death on numerous occasions, I came out the military, suffered some psychological distress, overcome it, purchased property, made it up to a good standard, now live in a tiny apartment and still work daily long hours all so I can have a nice retirement fund from the property I have.

When you are not some fucking cringe little brat teenager, come back to me without your bullshit but until then, learn to stay in your lane and shut the fuck up.

>>15945518
>so if i get rich, hire a bunch of employees, and pay them twice as much as the next guy, their work has suddenly doubled in value?

This is autism right here. You're not an economics student, you're a left wing moron college student.

Here is a little tip. Every billionaire will say the exact same thing as me. I own 5 properties and have an estimated wealth of over 1 million dollars.

HURR IF I PAY MY WORKER TWICE AS MUCH HAS THEIR VALUE INCREASED DURR!! No. That's just you being a dumbass paying more than you have to.

You don't understand how the value system works. At all lol. Value is not set on an individual basis; it's set by the community and society.

Nice larp tho, kiddo.

Plus, me being a landlord who worked hard for what I have and gained no further education after HS due to going into the military is not the same as some privileged rich kid who had their parents give and pay for everything so they have many more options than me and did nothing to earn the property they rent out.

But HURR DURR PROPERTY OWNERS ALL DA EXACT SAME DURR!! MUH BRAIN IS LEAKING.

I was without a doubt poorer than any poster on this board growing up, I had no option but to join the military, I came close to death on numerous occasions, I came out the military, suffered some psychological distress, overcome it, purchased property, made it up to a good standard, now live in a tiny apartment and still work daily long hours all so I can have a nice retirement fund from the property I have.

When you are not some fucking cringe little brat teenager, come back to me without your bullshit, but until then, learn to stay in your lane and shut the fuck up.

>>15942610
w2c that hat?

>>15946871
You sound underage, you life hasn’t even started yet, but you already got the defeatist mindset based on some 3rd party knowledge you seem to accept unconditionally. And I reckon you’re the one lacking any nuance with your binary worldviews. You’d probably grow out of it as you don’t seem to be a retard, meanwhile try to act less faggy and hysterical.

>>15936785

shieeeeee

>>15937008

can confirm

gf is ex arthoe going trad

>>15941343

>lol twice
not gonna make it

>>15946933
Don't try to tone police me. It's gay. And, you honestly are dumb. You really don't understand any of this.

>>15947022
Whatever, keep on being a fag. Just don’t expect to have any reasonable conversation outside your bubble with anyone who doesn’t have the patience of a saint.

>>15931218
>>>/adv/

There's a whole board dedicated to this shit you fuck

>>15947135
You're the one who jumped in with 'personal responsibility'. As though that's the solution for what we're talking about. Really, you don't need patience to have a conversation about this topic. YOU need a basic understanding of the ideas and concepts we're discussing. You just repeat the same stock phrases and vague platitudes, like 'personal responsibility', that living in the milieu of capitalist realism implants in your brain. You don't even question your own bad assumptions and bad arguments. I've thought about and considered your position. You haven't mine. There's no conversation to be had. You just try to be smug and patronising, and say 'listen, kid. Here's the way it is'. Only, the way you think IT is, is not how it is. And I'm not a kid. You're wrong.

>>15947195
Dude, you assumed a lot of things about me and what I intended to say, but I'm not willing to dive into this conversation. I think, that commies play an important part in political discourse, wish they drop the idpol though as it skews the focus from the stuff that's geniuenly important.

>>15946079
alternatively, a homeowner could do the same after the theoretical abolishment of landlords

>>15942610
>Adulthood is wanting to suck Jeff Bezo's dick and believing that poor people suffering is based
Kek I really hope this is ironic, no one is this much of a technocratic bootlicker

>>15940868
>freedom is slavery

yadda yadda yadda

>>15940806
damn, mirin

ig:ofherbsandaltars

>>15931244
this, but unironically. just make sure you wrap it up.

>>15931218

>Visiting actual communist countries

Implying you've ever left your basement

>>15941343
Anyone who writes “in and of itself” for any reason is a fucking loser, off the bat. The second someone says this, they become a non-person in my eyes.

>>15941283
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>15931642
your labour is probably being exploited you cuck. get breadpilled and youll get way more pussy

>>15937407
i guarantee you get absolutely no pussy lmao

>>15940838
T. Untreateable super gonorrhea future victim

>>15932142
Seriously

Why's this board still here

>>15931218
Simple
>If older than 25 (I'm 30), political, or mentions feminism outside of deep, focused societal or artistic discussion, they get ignored.

>>15930827
looks like Maria from silent hill 2

>>15931244
living a lie for some mediocre pussy, how low you degenerate faggots have fallen. Get some fucking self respect jesus christ

>>15930845
very sexy

>>15941343
holy fuck where are you finding all these commies

>>15931468
most effay strikes to ko your girlfriend?

>>15941343
how can you both be based and cringe at the same time kekkk

>>15949865
I find a good elbow to the face is kino af desu.

>>15941343
she looks like a pig anyways

>>15931218
>uses the word libtard
>loves c*pitalism
yep, we've got a conservatard in the house bois
you know what to do with him

>>15942527
it's called 'shitty bait' you retarded boomer

>>15947418
you must be autistic

>>15934162
oh no!

>>15932087
chill out big guy we're not in high school anymore

>>15930827
did she ghost you or what

>>15931933
>Not whoever you're replying to but I've made more money in the last two years with speculative investments than I had as a woodworker for five years.
>Financial success im a capitalist system is in no way linked to work
Thats very very deceiving of you. You are implying that you just randomly invested money and just hoped for the best and there you go $$$! In reality investment takes a lot of pre planning and research into said investments in order to make sure you make a profit. That is why so many people dont get into stocks because they cant be assed to learn basic "buy low sell high" and "long term is safer than short term selling".

capitalism rewards hard work but that work isnt always physical labor you brainlet.

>>15950559
>capitalism rewards hard work
kek

>>15941393
>that's the point, landlords don't actually make something useful for society they just withhold something necessary (housing) and make money off the fact that they own it
lmao they provide a place for retards who are too dumb to save up money for a down payment to live. being a landlord is a risky investment and only works if the tenant is a good boy who don fuck up the house.

>>15950564
>capitalism rewards meaningful effort
there is that better for you?

>>15930827
Digging that shower curtain skirt

>>15950634
>capitalism rewards meaningful effort
you’re digging your own grave

>>15950634
nigga how ? doctors get paid like 80k while some rich heir has to invest into some shitty stock and gets millions in return for not working a day in his life

>>15950634
keep posting pls you’re so based and fucking wrong

>>15930827
Do these people ever experience joy, or are they simply too mutated to know what happiness is?

I feel like I've had better moments climbing a tree with my guy friends, or spraying ''Free Pakistan'' on an abandoned building with my friends.... than I ever will having whatever amount of sex I could have with such a frigid, joyless person.

These people need sun and tropical fruits.

>>15931935
this image is mind-blowingly retarded. you have to know literally nothing about history to be able to produce anything even resembling this brain-dead of a thought process

imagine the sheer volume of propaganda you have to guzzle over the course of your life to actually believe this >>15950559 >>15950634

Lmao tankies mad.

And yet, nothing changes.

>>15950634
Nothing is better for them. These are completely demoralised husks

>>15949840
Imagine the smell

>>15950564
Worked for me. Are you having trouble figuring out how to make it work for you?

>>15931933
Nick? whats up

>>15931622
>Guy on the right doing a roman and still has a girl clung to him
What is my niggas secret