/fa/ - Fashion

>>15898776
>come to new thread
>computer monitor still broken with lines everywhere n shit

Nothing improved.

>>15898787
at least you can still read everything

>>15898776
The superior modern ceramic El Primero.

I need a NATO for my Submariner, but I don't trust my steady hands (or lack of..) when it comes to removing the original bracelet without scratching the case.

>>15898816
Use a toothpick or plastic tool. Test it on another watch first if you can.

>>15898820
>Test it on another watch first if you can.
Funny you mention it.. I've actually thought about copping a rep for this reason

>>15898826
The steel that Rolex and other luxury watchmakers use tends to be pretty tough too. You'll be fine.

This is the zenith to get

>>15898832
It's beautiful, but the large gaps in the bracelet look a bit odd to me. I know they're period-correct, but ...

>>15898832
If they put the movement from the Chronomaster Sport in this case with this dial, it would be an absolute home run.

>>15898831
Thanks for the input, anon.

>>15898832
*blocks your path*
Psssh... nothin personnel... kid...

>>15898864
*blocks your path*
give me dat bike

>>15898864
All they had to do was make the seconds hack.

>>15898816
Just take it to a watch shop then, they'll do it for free usually

>>15898832
No.

>>15898816

Do what >>15898820 says and use something less hard than the steel of your watch it will be impossible to scratch it that way.

If you want to be full on autismo you could also cover the lugs of your watch with making take or something along those lines. The biggest risk you face is scratching the lugs with the spring bar of the new strap as you put it in

*flexes in your watch thread*

>>15898885
Cheers, anon. I purchased a Bergeon tool, but that was a waste of money... Maybe it'll become usable later on, when I get more experience.

Why do I prefer left?

>>15898832
also this

>>15898900
indicators on the tudor are more elegant
bezel on tudor is a bit thick
hands on tudor are less chunky with a better design, and the hour hand and seconds hand are more faceted
indicators have more depth and better finish/contrast

citizen has a superior bezel
dateday on citizen is well-presented if that's your jam
language on citizen is better placed - the watch doesn't look as claustrophobic as the tudor

tudor has better lugs (streamlined) whereas the citizen with its caseing and lugs looks, quite honestly, uglier

tudor also has the classic crown placement while the citizen has a more quirky take

tudor strap is patterned better, but both straps are meh

overall, both watches are okay, neither has a brilliant design. i wouldn't pay more than $200-300

>>15898900
I really dislike Tudor as well.

am I storing my watch correctly? the pillow seems awfully squished

>>15898900
The Citizen is no-nonsense and has no intentions beyond being a rugged-ass tool watch.
The Tudor is a pretty watch for posers.

>>15898776
Fuck, the one with the white dial looks superb!

dates are for yuppy faggots

>>15898920
It's just a pillow anon. It's meant to be squishy.

>>15898920
Those GS pillows are fine, don't worry about it, the pressure is very little. I would look into getting a carapaz watch roll or something like that or a Pelican case.

>>15898906
This is the best bracelet Zenith makes, with those countersunk/"dovetailed" side links. They should have used this bracelet on the Chronomaster Sport.

>>15898883
>>15898906

I'm holding for the inevitable Zenith watch with this sort of design + the new calibre.

>>15898883
Please stop with this watch, is pretty yes but you can not read the time on.

>>15898941
is that the snowflake? nice strap!
what are your thoughts on a watch winder?
>>15898939
haha, I know, but it just seems so deformed whereas the images you see online are so neat and presentable

>>15898947
The watch box and pillow are manufactured to fit the bracelet with no links removed. If you remove any links, then the circumference of the bracelet will be less than the circumference of the pillow. Thus, the bracelet will squeeze the pillow. But it's just a pillow. It's meant to be used.

>>15898946
Jesus, where's the minute hand??

>>15898931
so are the maxi cases. ew.

I just paid off my car loan to stop me from buying any shitters /wt/ did I do good ?

>>15898931
Date's fine without the cyclops

>>15898966
indubitably, my good man

>>15898952
You're right, of course. I'm just being fussy. Thanks for assuaging my fears!

>>15898986
It's ok, I went through the same thing when I got my Seamaster. Perfectly normal.

>>15898946
It's 10.09.

My electric watch collection. Also have a white G Shock but it won’t lay on my desk nicely.

>in-house movement with 80 hours power reserve
>904L steel
>handsome as fuck
>only $2250
What’s the catch?

>>15898920
Going to need a dial closeup on that dial plz.

>>15898941
37mm?

>>15899029
Great watch but let's not pretend 904L steel is in any way exotic or superior.

>>15899029
Logo and dial text would get on my nerves but otherwise seems like a great watch.

Why can't modern watches look this good?

>>15899042
that watch only looks good if you're Ricky Bobby

>>15899034
I mean it’s what RAAAWLEX uses and they use it as a marketing tactic

>oi we got a nasty bugger here
>here in /wt/ we call this the freshwater poorfag japanese shitter owner
>it is much smaller in size than its relative the saltwater swiss heritage haute horology owner
>accounting for its lack of funds, the freshwater poorfag will use its mating cries of +1/-1 accuracy, zaratsu polishing, and msrp to attract a mate.
>however this often fails I’m comparison to its richer saltwater relative
>the saltwater swiss group owner simply wears his stainless steel sports rolex model to establish dominance in an area wrought with freshwater poorfags.
>there is no use for a call as the female flocks to the the Swiss watch with no desire to acknowledge the autistic calls of the Japanese owner.
>a true sighting of one of nature’s greatest rivalries. And one of the most lopsided.
>the freshwater poorfag returns to his boutique. Patiently waiting for the call from the Rolex ad confirming it’s place on the waiting list. Which will never come.

ID on DRUK’s watch, pls?

>>15898920
Pillows are like women’s ass.
You always go all in and stick your face in it if you can.

>>15898556
Alarm chronograph eh?
MOGGED

>tfw own this perfect little watch
>want the SM milsub but I don't know if I can justify it when I own this flat out superior watch
fug

>>15898920
Those pillows are sized for the default full links so your current sizing might be too small for it.

>>15899051
Literally obssessed

Poolex shill is eternally butthurt someone didn't fall for his plebtrap branding.

>>15898920
You store your watches in the boxes they came in?

>>15899076
Not that guy but I store my finer watches in their original boxes.

Im not looking for a cheaper alternative to a submariner Im looking for a watch that objectively better

>>15899098
>objectively better
Watches are incredibly subjective.

Most watch collectors will sperg out if you tell them quartz is objectively superior by every possible metric. They'll point to shit like battery life while ignoring service costs.

>>15899102
>Watches are incredibly subjective
no they're not

>>15899098
seiko wit spring drive

>>15899098
If you like the looks, I don’t know why you wouldn’t buy a Seamaster 300 instead of a sub. It’s half the price or less, there’s no AD fuckery, and spec wise it’s just as good as a sub by most metrics.

>>15899098
The Seamaster Diver 300M is better than the Submariner by almost every objective measurement.

What should be my next chronograph? Not pictured is Heuer Autavia Viceroy. Daytona is not an option

>>15899119
Meant to say Seamaster DIVER 300

dates are static
time is constant

>>15899122
Maybe a ST19 Strela shitter to compliment your Boctok shitter.

>>15899122
Seiko Pogue or Seiko Bullhead

Sell the Tudor and donate the proceeds to charity

>>15899131
>Sell the Tudor and donate the proceeds to charity
Never. I like my Tudor
>>15899130
No chinkshit, please

>>15898942
I'm not the biggest fan of the butterfly clasp though they usually fit nicer.

>>15899122
Sell everything but the MOTFM then save up for an El Primero.

>>15899139
tewdor is the weakest watch in your collection tbqh.

seiko pogue is actually a clever suggestion because it is also a space mission watch.

>>15899131
back to r/watches you go bud

>>15899065
You are fine. Get a PO 2201.50

>>15899098
DW-5600

>>15899122
Archimede, Longines or Zenith. Either German or dressy

>>15899171
>Archimede, Longines or Zenith

Dead brands that immediately drop 1/3 their value after leaving the shop.

>>15899165
>cuck-axial
no thanks

>>15899122
6138-0011, coolest seiko chrono

>thread overrun by Seikofags
Every single day.

>>15898832
>>15898883
Looks great. The rest on this thread look like shit.

>>15899074
>here we have the butthurt poorfag who responds to every post yet calls others obsessed. A very common look into the rent free psyche of the smooth brain retard.
>you can tell by it’s size it’s a wristlet who fears the maxi case in its natural habitat.
>it relies on the (you’s) of others for sustenance. Suckling off the teat of the remnants of the richfag shitposts.
>although it has claws, it’s poses no threat from sitting online all day circle jerking over Japanese watches. Leaving it fat and out of shape compared to the mountain explorer Swiss watch wearer.
>we must protect the poorfag at all costs bc it provides the invaluable recipe to shit on each and every day providing endless entertainment for the Swiss watch owner. Without such what would be the point of even owning a watch.

I bought a black and an orange resin band and wanted to return the one I didn't like... Then I had an idea... Based or Cringe?

>>15899225
Lel it takes me 15 seconds to just laugh at your autism and seething

Meanwhile you probably spend hours of your life thinking about how people don't like rolex and how you need to correct them on the internet. Even going so far to making constant shill posts. So sad.

It's funny we have never seen your collection or a wrist shot from you. Just another poser like turkeybald loosery I suppose.

AAAAAA I'M GOING INSANE

>>15899237
>>15899230
Visually, the contrast is pleasing.

But I would probably be annoyed by it irl. Watches aren't meant to be "loud". Especially such a cheap watch. People who wear gold casios give me rational(or irrational?) annoyance.

>>15899198
Sounds like you're being a hater

>>15899176
>Already has a Speedmaster
>Doesn't want a Daytona
How many other chronographs below 10K keep value, Einstein?

I posted this at the end of the last thread but i would like to hear back some opinions about this watch.
Do you think it is worth $350?
Anyone have experience with Dan Henry?

>Scroll through this thread
>see my posts
>wrote them while on the toilet on my phone
>literally shitposts

>>15899176
Why do you care about secondary market value? The entire point of a beautifully crafted timepiece is to pass it down because it will do its job perfectly in perpetuity.

>>15899241
It's kind of supposed to be my fun and loud shitter that I take out on days where I drink with buddies in the backyard or something. My other watches are all steel and conservative. I think I'll not return any of those bands and will wear whatever I feel like, on the black one the watch looks really fun but more reserved.

>>15899253
It's based on a Porsche Design watch, the Price seems good for the movement and the casing.

I only heard good things about Dan Henry and I am eying these too.

>>15899237
The watch is cool, but the band sucks. Get something else

>>15899253
There's no way to tell just from a picture. Aesthetically, it depends on you. In terms of performance and execution of supercomplications, you should do your research. Also look into the materials used and process of manufacturing.

>>15899256
It's just annoying and incredibly pretentious of the watch company charging prices that aren't fair market value. Just get it secondhand.

>>15899271
That's a fair point. I'd only get it secondhand if it were in pristine condition, though. Also, some watchmakers are superior to others but still don't retain value simply due to the human nature of the hypebeast-driven market.

There are always a lot of factors to consider. Buying retail is never a black mark if you know exactly what to look for.

>>15898947
Its the SBGW231, nomos strap, winder are only good if you have a annual /perpetual calendar watch you want to keep running but you are just adding wear to your watch and so they are pointless. You would leave your car parked overnight with the engine running.

>>15899031
Yea 37mm, perfect size for a 7inch wrist.

>>15898954
>>15899002

Hey guys this is a great watch! Never buy a dark dial watch without lume.

>>15899271
Watch companies don't give a shit about 2nd hand value. Tons of idiots walk into boutiques and buy at near MSRP. Just look at Omega. They're in the business of staying in business, not being a fucking charity.

these seem really cool

>>15899311
That's their imperative. It is also my imperative to just buy grey market or secondhand and deny them of their artificial markup.

>>15899055
WHAT A LIFE

>>15899055
why are we calling him Druk now? just because of the new movie?

Fun fact: I live just around the corner from Druk’s brother who is also an actor.

>>15899307
>winder are only good if you have a annual /perpetual calendar watch you want to keep running but you are just adding wear to your watch and so they are pointless. You would leave your car parked overnight with the engine running.
Autism. I have a moonphase with date that I have to set with a special tool that is a major pain in the ass and I use a winder. Please do not ever compare a watch winder to leaving your car running again, it’s making my head hurt. There is no data that I have ever seen suggesting that leaving a watch on a winder decreases service intervals.

Watches are made to be worn. You’re not hurting it by leaving it running. You’re just as likely to cause excess wear by unscrewing the crown repeatedly to set it.

>>15899312
>assChuté

>>15899252
Who said I wanted to keep value? Also doesn't have to be new

I want a IWC Aquatimer Cousteau Divers watch. I've seen the price go up thousands in the several years i've had my eye on them and I want to snag one before it gets higher and higher. Is it worth buying used? or should I give up and just set my sights on a brand new watch. I found one with the original box, papers and warranty card.

>>15899230
I'd swap it, so the top strap is orange and the bottom black, so less orange will show on your wrist. Also I think Amphibias are supposed to be (or at least can be) bright and slightly gaudy, that's the charm in a way. Take a wrist pic if you do swap 'em.

>>15899359
IWC has literally never made a watch that was worth it

>>15899122
A Seiko 7a28, it was the first quartz chrono and still keep good time.

>>15899364
This

Lusting after SCHITTAS again.

>>15899373
honestly very disappointing.
it looks and feels fantastic but the lack of lume is sad on a dive watch of this price and reputation

>>15899391
>lack of lume
Wut, there's no lume?

>>15899392
there is lume but it's not very bright and fades fast, you get better lume from seiko shitters. you could argue it's because doxa uses a printed dial, but that's cope.

>>15899399
>you get better lume from seiko shitters
To be fair, the Japanese invented modern lume, and Seiko divers are known for having the absolute best lume in the world in terms of brightness.

>>15899402
yeah but come on bro this watch costs 2k and is supposed to be a top diver. they should apply more coats of lume or use a stronger compound

>>15899363

>>15899335
Watch gears wear when the watch is running, fact! Watch winder keeps the watch running, fact, work it out.......

It's commonly known they add wear to a watch, you must be trolling.

>I have ever seen suggesting that leaving a watch on a winder decreases service intervals.
Just wind your watch once a month to keep the oils from thickening.

Google it.

>>15898776
>Daytona Knockoff Edition
Ok watchfaggots. Give me creative and good Rolex Daytona alternatives OTHER than the El Primero. No points for mentioning Sinn or Seiko.

>>15899418
I totally agree.
Just saying that when you compare to Seiko, you're pretty much comparing to the best lume out there.
Even Grand Seiko has worse lume than regular Seiko divers.

>>15899427
Pagani

>>15899051
>>15899225
Lmao good one. 8/10
Also love the seething tard replying to these posts

>>15899391
Wow that's a big disappointment. Shame cause it looks great and the bracelet must be amazing.
Messing up lume is a big fail especially on a "hardcore" diver.

>>15899438
>more complications
>more precise
BASED

>>15899311
Rolex is a charity and all they care about it keeping 2ndary prices high

>>15899424
Goddamn I hate you retards. Do you know that service interval recommendations are made based on the assumption that the watch is running 24/7? So you’re worried about wear on your watch because...what? You want to go an extra year without servicing it to save a couple bucks?
> It's commonly known they add wear to a watch, you must be trolling.
Oh my GOD! My watch will be...WORN? Gears will be...TURNING? Somebody call FEMA.

I used to like /wt/ but in the last few months the autism is just too great.
>muh excessive wear
Luxury goods aren’t for you if you’re concerned about saving a hundred bucks less by delaying a service for a year.

>>15899421
What's the underside of your wrist/the strap look like with it on?

>>15899312
Don't fall for their jewish tricks brother, this model was horrendously bad in the 70s, literal east german boctok tier watch. They rebranded it as a "le luxury but le tool watch". This watch is taking the piss out of the hoedickee crowd

>>15899468
Mostly black with orange accents

>>15899465
Sure, there are some dumb takes here, but /wt/ is still a much better general than virtually any other on 4chan. Just ignore the bad opinions or call them out to help others learn the truth.

I really don't think it's that bad. It's a very comfy community.

>>15899364
>>15899371
That's disappointing. Looks like Jaeger-LeCoultre it is then.

>>15899230
>uhhh, *blushes* /wt/kun...am I allowed to express myself, desu?
JUST DO IT FAGGOT

>>15899473
I like how there's just a hint of orange beneath the black, maybe one of these straps might be the way to go?

>>15899473
I think that's nice, compliments the dial. How I'd wear it, anyway. But either way would be cool. Here's my Amphibia field watch so you know that I'm an expert

>>15899477
IWC should never have even been in the running. JLC is in a completely different league.

>>15899421
I thought you were wearing a Telnyashka from the thumbnail

>>15899230

Noice

>>15899490
I just liked their limited run Cousteau diver watch. Other than that I don't really care much for IWC.

>>15899373
The divingstar is based as fuck.

https://youtu.be/wVOXZgjWcxw

Is he right?

>>15899540
Didn't this retard lose his mind after some oil pajeet destroyed his sense of self-worth from buying overpriced baubles?

Owning a watch made outside of Japan marks you for life as a fucking retard.

>discuss burgers

To clarify on the watch winder question: let’s say a brand recommends a watch is serviced every 5 years. That’s probably overly conservative, but manufacturers err on the side of conservatism for obvious reasons. Regardless of whether the watch is worn everyday or not at all, the watch should still be serviced to replace the lubricants after ~5 years. Something that many people don’t know is that most high end manufacturers will replace wear items during a complete service as standard practice - these parts are always included in the service cost. Brands that do this include Patek Philippe, Vacheron Constantin, and A. Lange & Söhne. This means that your servicing costs will likely be the exact same regardless of whether you kept it on a winder or not.

The question of excessive wear from using a winder has been going on watch forums for the last decade+ and there’s no clear answer. Realistically given the service procedures pointed out above, it doesn’t matter. You pay the same amount during a service anyway. I use a winder only for complicated watches I need a stylus to set. My rationale is that I’m more likely to inadvertently damage the movement by setting it than by keeping it on a winder - this is also why Patek ships their perpetuals with a winder. But as long as you don’t have a delicate moonphase or annual or perpetual calendar, I don’t see why you’d need a winder anyway when you can set most watches in under a minute.

>>15899427
I guess by daytona alternative you mean a chronograph? A speedmaster is on a comparable level for one fifth of the price, a JLC Master Chronograph Calendar shits on the Daytona and is still cheaper by a few thousands.
If you have Daytona money you might as well buy a Lange Flyback Chrono which is on a completely different planet.

>>15898900
Citizen Eco Drive > Citizen automatic > literal shit > tudor
You can have got a nice grand Seiko with that tudor money.

>>15899063
How did you activate the lume?

>>15898776
Do you think this watch will succeed? I think they've got a WINNER WINNER. CHICKEN DINNER.

Is Tissot shit? For a sub-250$ automatic should I just stick with looking at Seiko?

>>15899590
Tissot is literally, literally, supposed to be the exact baseline for a Swiss watch. You get exactly what the Swiss deem is worth $500 in a watch. And it is intentionally not much because you are buying the bottom.
Sub-$250 your choices are Orient, used Seiko, or Chinese

what's the closest possible match to this watch for 200-500$? with either black of white dial (yes i know i could get this exact watch for this money but I can't bring myself to pay double of what it costed some years ago)

>>15899618
Just buy the watch you miserly poorfag.

>>15899618
It's still worth it at around the $500 mark. It was just grey market sellers selling it at way below MSRP. I don't think you can find something at 38 mm, sapphire crystal and solid end links in that price range. Your best bet would be to check out some chink or micro shitters.

>>15899632
This reminds me, where can I get cheap solid SARB end links? Or is it one of those things where you literally have to just buy the fucking watch again and then resell it on a NATO shitter like with every other bracelet related thing because people don't sell the things for sensible money?

>>15899618
Not the closest match but a watch for thr same niche. The traska commuter for $650
https://www.traskawatch.com/commuter/p/slate-black

>>15899618
You can get the SARY057 for $300 on ebay shipped straight from nippon, there's also some other SARY models that might be of interest if you only want date.

>>15899640
You can get an aftermarket fitted bracelet with solid end links
https://www.uncleseiko.com/collections/sarb-033-035
I think it only has a pressed clasp but you can get a milled one pretty cheaply if it bothers you.

>>15898864
god thats pretty

>>15899640
Strapcode also makes aftermarket bracelets.
https://www.strapcode.com/collections/replacement-band-for-seiko-sarb033
I have heard that if you email them you can buy just the endlinks.

>>15899007
fuckin kickass bro where's the connie from? did they ever sell them with oem bracelets?

>>15898864
Ayo, so you be sayin...
That we wuz....
That we finna...

>>15899540
Obviously satire

>>15899547
He explodes in a fit of sour grapes every other day.

>>15899640
Pretty much will have to buy an aftermarket bracelet like
>>15899653
>>15899662
Uncle Seiko offers a president style bracelet which is pretty cool

>wanna read the time at angle?
>too bad

>>15898906
Looks nice. Not worth 3k though

>>15899465
You service your watch when it needs serviced, not to the brands recommendations, ofcourse they are going to service it more. They normally change wheels and gears for free as part of the service so its not about wear. Why would you push your 10 year service to 5 years, because your to lazy to set your watch. I'm giving good sound advice.

>>15899122

>>15899618

>>15899648
I have a SARY
It's beautiful, like a poor man's GS. But I call it a poor man's GS because it's 41mm

the new zenith is pretty pathetic

>>15899704
It honestly put me off the brand and I was planing on buying one.

>>15899704
>>15899708
What is it?

>>15899681
What kind of mong are you that you can't be bothered to raise your wrist and turn it inward to read the time?

>>15899693
You are doing far more damage to your watch by waiting until the lubricants degrade to a point where you are noticeably losing time. I mean your argument is just laughable. I have some very expensive watches and the idea that I will just put off servicing them until they break is totally bizarre. I spent $10k or more on the watch, I don’t mind spending $500 or $1000 bucks every 5 years to keep it running.

If you’re talking about some dogshit watch then I don’t care at all. Throw it in a dryer to wind it for all I care. But you’d have to be so utterly retarded to put off servicing an actually complicated movement that I don’t even know where to start.

>>15899719
I just service my watch every 5-7 years.. it's worked out well. I know many people who service their watch every 10+ years and they have not had a problem.
I know a guy who serviced his Rolex EVERY YEAR because some random retard told him to and when I told him he only needed to do it once a decade he was livid.

>>15899364
It's a shame, I do like some of their flieger variations, but no way they deserve the asking price on a vast majority of their offerings, even accounting for standard mid-to-luxury inflation.

Is it finally time to cop? New Bulgari Octo Finissimo in steel. Chronograph, GMT and under 9 mm thin. 16.5k MSRP. It's pretty wide though.

>>15899710
its a basically a copy of the rolex daytona aesthics yes I know zenith made the movement for the OG daytonas

>>15899739
Nah I'm waiting until it gets above 20k can't flex with 16k lmfao.

>>15899745
They already offer this in precious metal I think so why not get a white gold one?

>>15899697
Thought about a Monaco. Kinda a wristlet though, so it would probably look horrible

I wear a lot of brass/worn-brass accents. What kind of watch would go with that?

There isn't much i've found in terms of brass watches, should I look more for a matte gold? or rose gold?

what watch color goes with brass?

>>15899719
not the same guy you're arguing with but theres no terrible damage to do when you just postpone servicing, by the time it starts running poorly at worst all the lube is gone. its not a car, nothing explodes when the lube is gone.
unless you leave your watch to actually corrode the service wouldn't differ much if you went every 'recommended amount' or 10+ years.

>>15899739
>24hr subdial instead of a 12hr subdial for the chrono function
Swing & a miss.

>>15899752
Maybe if your wrist was 6" or less it'd be a stretch but it should work. Lug to lug is ~47mm last I checked.

>>15899755
you can get a regular watch with a brown dial or you can get a bronze watch. they patina nicely and you can look up patina techniques to get a specific shade if you want.
bronze watches are more expensive despite being an inferior metal, because of the memes. so you should get a chinese bronze watch for around $200 from aliexpress. san martin/heimdallr make good ones.
there are brass watches, like boctok komandirskies, but they are plated so they don't look brass. brass was a watch material in the past but it's shit, like actually shamefully shit, so nobody left it as-is, it was always plated

>>15899755
You can find quite a few bronze watches if that's what you're after

>>15899760
I know I know, it's the one achilles heel of the watch. It's either this or the Cal. 321 Sneedmaster and I don't think I want to spend over 10k on yet another "limited edition but not really" Omega.

>>15899765
Maybe, I've never tried one on. It's 6.75". Everybody seems to say that square watches wear much larger

>>15899785
Should be fine then familia. The most important thing is that the lugs don't overhang from the wrist.

>>15899708
Honestly feel the same. These new models look like Chinese Daytona knockoffs

>>15899031
that's beautiful

If it uses electricity, it isn’t a real mechanical watch. Spring Drives are shit cope watches for people who need to convince themselves that their Japanese watch was worth the price tag. If you’re buying a Seiko as anything but an everyday shitter you’re doing it wrong

>>15899065
Noice. Every homage of it is sold out, so I'm really considering it. Do you wear it daily? Don't care about accuracy, just want to know if it's rugged enough to wear as a beater.

>>15899827
>t. inaccurate swiss cuck

>>15899739
The 24hr hand better be independently adjustable.
I think the octo finissimo with small seconds is a better expression of the design.

>>15899827
>If it uses electricity, it isn’t a real mechanical watch.
You're right. The bigger issue is why you think that something not being outdated garbage tech from 200 years ago is somehow a detriment.

What's next? Are you going to shit on my watch because it isn't a sundial? Or a water clock? Imagine paying more for less.

>>15899827
shitting on watches is cringe

>>15899827

>>15899846
The point of mechanical watches is the pursuit of engineering perfection in the face of and despite the limitation of not being able to use electricity. Are mechanical watches “outdated”? Sure. You’re missing the point.

The moment you introduce electricity into the mix as a way of regulating better accuracy, you need to accept that the best watches are radio controlled and that anything otherwise is a pure compromise

It's up!

https://youtu.be/52MsilCdphA

>>15899868
in spring drives the electricity is being generated mechanically

>>15899719
Your the JLC moon phase guy, right? $1000 you'll be lucky to get it serviced for that. I'm not saying run it till it stops, when it needs it = time keeping. Any watchmaker will tell you the same thing I have. Wind your watch full 1 or 2 times a month when its in storages and watch winders add wear to a watch. Some guys have 10+ high end watches and it pays to extend the service a few years. Its not a $1000 ever 5 years its a $10,000 service.

Do what you want, keep your moonphase on a winder, wear it every full moon put it back on the winder. I'm happy to set my watches.

>>15899868
>radio controlled
Imagine relying on and trusting the government for the time.

>>15899875
Yes. And the electricity regulates the watch. It serves to make the watch more accurate. That’s a world apart from a mechanical watch that achieves its accuracy through the purely mechanical movement of its gears and springs.

>>15899888
you are crying about some arbitrary standards that only exist in your head

>>15899891
It’s a clear standard. Does the watch use electricity or does it not?

>>15899894
False dichotomy cringe as fuck kek

imagine being so asshurt about Japanese eating your lunch 50 years ago that your entire industry is running off the cope of that one moment

>>15899868
It's a completely meaningless limitation, though. What are you worried about? Batteries being banned? The end of the world?

Changing a battery is easier and FAR cheaper than any service.

>>15899721
I have a watch that is over 50 years old and was never serviced once. Guess what, it keeps time completely accurately.

>>15899910
OK. What's your point?

>>15899905
>reverting to the question of pure monetary once again
Just goes to show that quartzfags truly don’t and never will get it.

>>15899888
Gears are complex and require high end electrical equipment and manufacturing to produce at small sizes. Your watch produces its "accuracy" thanks to all the electricity that was expended producing it.

The only real time measurement device is a stick in the ground on a clear day. Stop relying on gear reductions and torque, and start actually telling time.

>>15899919
you are basically proud that asshurt swissfags brainwashed you

>>15899911
The point is that it’s laughable that someone would get their watched serviced at any time before there’s an actual problem to be corrected

>>15899924
Have you ever heard the expression "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure?"

>>15898941
That is a fucking stunning dress watch, if you don't already have the matching BoR bracelet you should get it.

>>15899926
To an extent, you both have valid points. That being said mechanical watch service schedule recommendations are typically overkill. A vast majority will have no issues going 10 to 20 years or more between service, unless they are consistently beaten to hell or exposed to extremes in temperature, magnetism, etc very often.

Thoughts on fabric straps?

>his watch has a modified ETA movment

>>15899942
Around the 12 year mark is when most watches start to show timing issues. Smaller movements will tend to shit themselves sooner.

Only get your watch serviced when you start having problems or hear funny noises.

>>15899951
redditcore

>>15899951
They are good but NATOs are cringe. They add a lot of bulk to the watch. A 2 piece nylon is better. You will never need your watch to be that strongly attached to your wrist anyhow unless you are literally parachuting out of planes and shit in which case you probably should just have a G-Shock.

>>15899942
>A vast majority will have no issues going 10 to 20 years or more between service
Just FYI letting the oil completely dry and then running it for 5 or 10 years on top of that will not be covered by any service center I’ve ever heard of, meaning you will be raped on parts under the clause of extraordinary wear.

I don’t understand why people will spend tens of thousands of dollars on a watch and then be so stingy on getting it serviced. Penny wise pound foolish

>>15899962
Exactly, it's like going three times the oil change interval on your car and being surprised they void your warranty.

>>15899846
By that logic, why wear an analog watch at all? Get with the times and buy an Apple watch.

>>15899427
Alpha Paul Newman

>>15899427
Speedmaster broad arrow

>>15899969
Because there's a huge difference between a watch that lasts 5 years with zero maintenance (and then 50 with 10 minutes of work), and one that won't last a day without maintenance, and will be effectively dead forever within 5 years as the internal battery dies and is near impossible to replace?

Smartwatches are the biggest joke ever.

>>15899951
they’re great, as long as they’re single pass/you circumcise them

>>15899540
He's not wrong but he's kind of being a dick about it

>>15899540
Of course he’s right. The fags ITT spend all day jerking off
>muh value, muh nippon finishing
but it’s all poorfag cope. They’ve deluded themselves. What they actually want is a ROLEX but they can’t admit it. Sad.

See you boys in the trenches.

>>15899540
decided to read some comments before watching
goddamn, Soiko fans are a sad bunch of sensitive ninnies. Almost as pathetic as the time a guy gave a negative review of a Benchmark knife. I thought you guys are supposed to be coldly efficient salt of the earth types, and yet you sound like coping trannies.

>>15899540
always considered seiko good shitters but at the end of they day they will ALWAYS be shitters

>>15900017
It's not just about the price or whether or not you have money.
He had a better point when he compared GS to a Lexus. Reliable, safe, good quality. And boring. When you choose a watch that would be a flex for a Japanese office worker, that means you're a boring, unimaginative person who probably was already wearing a mask and using hand sanitizer 20 times a day before the virus. You're clinical. Anal. Lacking style, character or personality.

I want to be individual but rolex watches are so good bros

>>15900025
>Benchmark
You mean Benchmade?

>>15900025
Benchmade is pozzed, so is Spyderco

>>15900047
>He had a better point when he compared GS to a Lexus. Reliable, safe, good quality. And boring
HE OWNS FIVE IDENTICAL PATEKS

>>15900071
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Your seiko is boring and so are you

>The anons, with their Mickey Mouse timex and their 33 dollar bank account...
>Pull your pants down and prove to Kane that you are not a woman. And you will never be a real one.
>The Rock will take his big right hand, slap the shitter off your candy wrist, and give it back to you!
>Well if The Rock’s memory serves him correctly, it was The Rock that tossed your little hamburger monkey wagie ass right over the top rope!
>Let The Rock remind you of something. You ain’t no Swiss heritage watch owner. Not like the Scorpion King.
>Excuse The Rock for one second, his cell phone is going off. Hello? Hey it’s being poor. He says he knows you!
>Seeing that The Rock wasn’t done speaking, you should know your role and shut your mouth you fucking Japanese shitter owning poorfag!

>>15899739
For me the darker titanium octo still the best one. I hope that the hype dies in a few years and buy one of those for pennies.

>>15900047
How is Rolex not literally the definition of safe, reliable luxury?

>>15900018
>fweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>15900066
Whoopsie doops, yeah it was wranglerstar reviewing the Bugout. Obviously I’m new.
>>15900070
>so is Spyderco
so you’re saying if you just so happened to be a calicuck (haha not me my friend hahaha) there’d be a better below 3in edc than the Delica?

>>15900123
explain

>>15900144
No, the Delica and Endurance are perfect knife designs

>>15900144
I carry a spyderco and a google phone, doesn't mean they're not pozzed just that I'm a hypocrite.

>>15900144
Benchmade is basically the Rolex of the knife world. They used to make these tough but solid knives for working people, just a little bit more upscale. Then they just started jacking the price while the designs and QC get lazier. Benchmade has sucked for a long, long time. There is a lot of hype in the knife world just like in the watch world with chink brands stepping up like microbrand watches. Spyderco has also risen in price and gotten lazy, but they still turn out a fine quality product. They're more like Seiko, still offering good value and trying, but failing to innovate as they chase the upmarket and value fades.
Seiko enthusiasts have a chip on their shoulder because they feel they're fighting a bias against Japanese brands from Swissfags. This is not entirely untrue but Seiko is as mainstream as it gets and as they swing for the big baller money they deserve to get hit with higher levels of criticism. That applies to all watches though. It's funny how people are fucking drill instructor hard on microbrand $300 shitters but accept absolute trash from "luxury" brands.

>>15900152
im doing the trench whistle noise

>>15899962
are you from the 80s? oils dont dry anymore.

>>15898832
what is it with luxury watches and illfiting and/or mispolished endlinks? its fucking infuriating. i really loved the tudor bb58 until i tried one on and noticed the illfitting endlinks. disgusting.

>>15900236
>oils dont dry anymore.
More words of wisdom from /wt/

>>15899267
Can you give me some tips about good/bad materials and manufacturing processes?
I am only going based on looks

>>15899253
I own a dragster chrono.

No issues and I am impressed by it.

>>15900282
Based on looks, it looks great anon

how old is Tmosso

>>15900096
Based Rock drawing the house

>>15900309
Definitely in his early 30s

>>15900309
LinkedIn says he was in college from 2002-2006, so he was probably born in ~1984 making him 36-37 years old.

>>15900282
I would just look into what kind of movement this brand uses and where it’s manufactured. Don’t worry too much about materials at this price point

>>15900357
Is a citizen quartz movement good? Some youtuber said it is a citizen quartz and its got a lot of bang dor the buck

>>15899871
Are the people who call this a lookalike of the vintage Daytona the same people that claim that every dive watch is a submariner knockoff?

is it true if you buy certain super high end watches you get invited to Epstein-tier orgies?

>>15900374
To my knowledge, yes, that’s a good thing

>>15900391
No, if you buy those watches you are already having the orgies

>>15900374
Citizen tries harder than most with their quartz movements. They actually respect the tech.

>>15900389
I haven’t heard people comparing it to vintage daytonas, they’re comparing it more to modern ceramic daytonas. That said, my problem with the watch isn’t so much it’s resemblance to the Daytona but the fact that the dial isn’t as beautiful as what we have come to expect from El Primero watches. The colours are washed out and the quality of the finishing is a lot lower than other Zeniths

>>15900391
Buy one and let us know how that works out for you

>>15900391
They’ll fly you out to Switzerland to shake hands and meet people, yeah

Day seven of the squarepill.

thoughts on this watch?
https://vimeo.com/456935203

Looks half decent. If you are in the market for quartz divers you should also check out.
https://www.momentumwatch.com/collections/mens-watches
And also
https://www.deepbluewatches.com/

>>15900526
>https://www.momentumwatch.com/collections/mens-watches
fucking ugly watches

>>15899364
>nice Flieger with an ETA
>6 gorillion dollars
They’d be one of, if not my favorite brands if they cut all their prices in half

>>15900540
Same for me with previous generation Fortis.

And Sinn.

And Breitling.

>>15900547
Basically if any watch brand is selling their watches above $1500 they should halve it at least

>>15900499
If rotary is good enough for Bell Daphine's boyfriend it's good enough for you.

>>15900498
Who is this guy again I saw a pic with hi wearing a king square somewhere

>>15900560
Fuck that ugly cunt and fuck you

>>15900591
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Karelin

>>15899951
My favorite

>>15899728
Look at those loser hillbilly flags

went out today to hang with a girl and forgot to put my precious baby on...

am i a poser?

>>15899103
got em

>>15900123
THIS IS IT BOYS! UP AND OVER!

There's a Seiko Naruto series, when will there be a Warcraft III edition for humans orcs nightelves and undead?

>>15899540
>expand video
>sad old balding fat guy with the most weaselface
>close video

If this is the face of rolex/swiss wearers then I'm fine with wearing Japanese thank you very much.

>>15899951
They are cringe and affected. When I see someone wearing NATOs I just know that guy bought it because some watch blogger shilled it so much.

>>15900047
Grand Seiko does crazy and innovative stuff with their dials and finishings.

It's rolex that is stagnant, boring and the normiepleb go-to for a flex watch.

>>15899225
i want to fuck bindi so much

>>15899728
Imagine keeping your bezel at the top instead of the 10 so you can be ready to math at any time

>>15900294
ABSOLUTELY

GAY

>>15900797
This is more autistic than that german field watch chrono with the square indices. I like it.

>>15900811
Yes, and this tropic strap in the most comfortable strap I've ever wore and looks great with it.

>>15900797
what the fuck this thing is so ridiculously overloaded

>>15900843
imagine being filtered by a tool watch

>>15900851
you're goddamn right. you'd look like a legitimate sperg wearing that if it's a fashion choice rather than an essential tool for your job

>>15900857
oh

Looking for a mechanical/automatic watch similar to this in terms of dimensions. Any recommendations?

>>15900811
which german chrono is that?

>>15900861
I'm not going to research dimensions for you. Post them here if you want help.

>>15900866
6 x 4 x 6 inches; 0.71 Ounces

>>15900857
Do you have anything to back that up?

>>15900905
yeah, the ridiculous amount of shit on that watch that will make people wonder why the fuck you're larping as CIA irl

>>15900914
>caring what normies think

>>15900920
you've attained wizardhood haven't you

>>15900018

>>15900873
Post real measurements, it's not the 18th century.

>>15900843
>>15900857
You do realize the Navitimer looks almost exactly like that; and is one of THE iconic casual watches, both among watch connoisseurs and complete richplebs, right?

Why do people hate Vincero again?

>>15901010
"Casual" as in "sporty" and "non-dressy".

>>15899934
I'd thought about it but I think the watch looks better on a strap thankfully.

https://www.seiyajapan.com/products/grand-seiko-genuine-jubilee-ss-bracelet-for-sbgw031-sbgr061-sbgm021-d1z8ab

>>15901020
You are probably right but that beads of rice look is damn tempting.

>>15900820
is it rubber or silicone? Personally, I like the silicone straps. Only people who dont like them ive found are fat cunts who profusely sweat all the time

>>15900865
archemedes or something

>>15901015
They're the quintessential overpriced fashion dogshit watch. Cheaply made, shit design, made to appeal to plebs with no taste.

>>15901015
You pretty much posted the answer to your own question.
Fucking look at that shit.

>>15901047
those designs are 10x more original than anything in that price range other than invicta which looks like what a poor person thinks an expensive watch looks like

>>15901056
>those designs are 10x more original than anything in that price range
Tell me you're joking.
There are hundreds of fashion watch brands out there shitting out the exact same designs for the same price.

>>15901056
>what a poor person thinks an expensive watch looks like
That's what vincero is. They're completely unoriginal.

>>15900236
Modern oils absolutely do dry. That's the difference to old oils which gum up. With modern synthetic oils, the watch will run longer decently, but eventually all the lubrication is gone. With old oils the timekeeping will go to shit when the oils start to thicken and hinder movement.

so i got myself my first mechanical watch and i realized soemthing
what the fuck am i supposed to do when i want to look at the day number but there is minute hand sitting on it?
it's not like i can just move it, it wold throw off my precisely calibrated time

Someone bake a proper thread, for I am still in range ban hell

>>15901149
Wait a few minutes.

>>15901157
yeah right
>uhh sorry mr important businessman we have to stand around for 5 minutes so i can find out what day it is to fill out this contract
my boss would probably not be happy with my virgin ass about that one

>>15901161
Better make it a point to remember what fucking day it is then nigga if it's that important.

>>15901001
Get a PVD Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical and swap in the white dial?

>>15901167
Meant for
>>15900861

>>15899960
Except every watch without solid lugs (i.e. 99.99% of watches made in the past 70 years) actually performs worse on NATOs. Springbars are not designed for that kind of constant tension, it'd be like wearing your strap like a tourniquet.

>>15901149
Buy a watch with a sensibly sized minute hand, and a sensibly sized day/date window. My main watch has hands that are physically incapable of blocking the date, and can only block half the day at best.

I've got another shitter with a small date window, but the minute hand is only about 1.7mm thick, so I can just tilt the watch up or down to read the date underneath it.

>>15901034
According to the listing it's FKM rubber, it's just an ebay tropic strap since I planned to put it on an ebay vostok.

retard op

>>15899867
>>15899867
>>15899867
>>15899867

>>15901212
Oof

>>15901204
So upon further review it's a chink tropic strap unsurprisingly. I'll often get chink goods off ebay instead of ali since they're usually already in the US and the shipping is way faster. Still a very decent strap overall and in the 22mm size which doesn't seem to be common for vintage style tropics.

>>15901212
Don't reward that cunt by linking to his shitty thread

>>15901149
Pointer Date

>>15900865
Archimede Outdoor Chrono

>>15900861
Timex Marlin

>>15900650
>Hi beat
No, you are a service slave

>>15901258
>Archimede Outdoor Chrono
Mmm that's my kind of autism

>>15900499
Jody made a video about it

>>15900389
Yes

>>15901283
>>15901283
>>15901283

>>15901010
Font choice is such an underrated aspect of watch design. I can't count how many shitters would look 10 times better with just a better font.

>>15899618
SNK355?

>>15900499
It looks pretty cool. Something about the german fleiger style hands doesn't mesh with polished applied indices.

I think it goes better with the black dial. I think it would be cool if Rotary made some gains and became an affordable alternative to Seikos at the price point. Has history selling to the British army. I feel like it has such a strong association with cheap shitters bought from overpriced highstreet jewellers though.

>>15901015
thalidomide tier watch.

They wanted to make a larger watch but cheaped out on the movement so it doesn't have the torque to move hands that actually fit the dial. So they have these stubby disproportionate hands they just made the indices longer to compensate.

Undersized movement is also the reason all the sub dials are squashed in the middle of the dial.

They look like absolute shit

>>15899051
Wist watch check?

>>15899958
Do you ever get tired of having the same opinion for everything?