/fa/ - Fashion

TAG Heuer, Breitling, or Zenith?

>>15806768

That's it, in 2021 I'm buying a Rolex Submariner. I am currently debating over which model to get, I really like the clean look of the 2 liner 14060m (also it's pretty fucking cheap at 7k Euros for a submariner) or the newest 2020 model 124060 which would cost me more than 10k. But I learned that entry/mid tier shitters don't scratch my itch anymore so fuck it, I'm going all out.

The 14060m is 40mm big, has a lean look and small indices. It's been produced during the early 00s.
The 124060 is 41mm big, isn't as lean but leaner than the 114060 fat piece of shit, and has maxi indices. It's the newest no-date model. Do you think the difference in age will have a significant impact on reliability and servicing costs down the line?

To be honest, I like the 2 liners right now but actually now I'm quite unsure. It's a minor detail I suppose but the 4 line text is so iconic, it almost feels like it's a must for a sub. Hm, do you have an opinion on these 2 watches?

>pic related is not 124060 but rather 114060, as I said the 124060 is a bit leaner but has a bigger case. but you see the difference in 2vs4 liner and big vs smol indices

>>15806785
Unironically Breitling.
>Tag
Lol
>Zenith
Has one watch that's actually okay.

>>15806819
Get the newer one. The old one has better proportions but it's getting old and starting to look dated, and not in a good way. It's not quite as dated looking as the tudor sub era cases but it's getting there.

>>15806834
>Breitling
>non chronograph watches that are 18mm thick

>>15806844
Interesting, what do you mean by dated, exactly?
>>15806819
Also, I guess I don't have to worry about 2vs4 liner right now because the 14060m also comes with 4 lines in the later years.

>>15806849
The older one slips easily under the cuff of a dress shirt. The new one is thicc

>>15806819
Just because the rolex market is insane doesn't actually mean it's a good idea to buy a 20 year old dive watch with who know what kind of history. Too much fuckery, even though it's a modern sub it's still old enough to qualify as vintage at this point. Especially if you intend to wear it and use it regularly you want a new watch. with the older model you already have to start thinking about sending it to rolex for service, where they might just replace a hand or dial or some or all of the movement without a care, or taking it to some specialist to do services while keeping the watch original.

>>15806844
Vintage Rolex/watches have never been more popular than now, and the sub is the most iconic watch ever made. Pretty ridiculous to think it’s dated.

Spec wise, the new ones of course are better.

>>15806849
>Interesting, what do you mean by dated, exactly?
I mean it looks old.

>>15806856
Dated implies that it’s out of style. The shorter lived maxi case is going to look more dated than a 5 digit with time.

>>15806815

CasioRoyale is best enjoyed with black straps.

>inb4 phone fag

I'm looking for something very simple and cheap like pic related, but in 42-44mm. It doesn't have to be a leather band, I don't mind fake leather or cloth but I don't like bracelets. I like the simple white face (would be okay with silver) and roman numerals, although I would prefer the numerals to be in a more Romanesque font. I would like at the very least a date window, but having the day of the week would be good too. I don't like it to look too cluttered on the face, though.

Any suggestions?

>>15806785
Zenith does lots of very advanced, very interesting watches that fly right over the head of most watch buyers. The only thing holding them back is their design team - it’s like they can’t resist making virtually every watch they have ugly with some totally unnecessary detail.

>>15806888
Oh, and I forgot to mention that this watch is for work wear, so scratch resistance would be a big plus.

>>15806918

desu any casio quartz with Saphire Glas would be a good start.

>>15806888
42-44mm is pretty huge for that style of watch

>>15806819
>10k for a mass produced steel watch

>>15806954
it says rolex on it

>>15806958
you can get a hand made gold watch that says Vacheron Constantin or A. Lange for the same price

>>15806888
> 42-44mm
Why do you think you need a watch that large? How big is your wrist?

>>15806953
>>15806961
My wrist is 8"

>>15806959
rolex is more impressive to stupid people

>>15806963
44mm is still on the large side, 40mm would be fine.

>>15806971
I'm 6'3" and broad, that wouldn't look too small?

>>15806959
Honest question
Do people under 40 or 50 even wear HH?

fucking kek

>>15806979
I'm the same height with 8.25" wrists. 40mm personally works for me but smaller than that depends on the specific watch. But yeah 40-42mm is the sweet spot.

Parent's are deadset on buying me a watch this year even though I wear them. I told them not to spend the money but they insist, I have not the slightest bit of knowledge about watches, they sent me pictures with brand names like Movado, Michael Khors and Tissot. The latter I like the best in terms of aesthetics and they are willing to spend $1k. Lay some knowledge on me on what to choose?

>>15806992
Fair enough. That being said, do you have any recommendations then?

>>15806995
Do you want a quartz or mechanical?

>>15806995
Seiko.
>>15806981
Sure but it depends what you mean by HH. If you mean insane flying tourbillons, probably not if only because of the high cost. But if you consider a brand HH rather than individual pieces then sure - all sorts of young knobs wear Patek nowadays.

Holy shit I had no idea Zenith had such a rich history in pilot's watches.
Pic is the actual watch worn in 1909 by Blériot who was the first guy to fly a plane across the English channel.

It looks pretty much exactly like the pilot's watches made by Zenith today.

>>15806995
Sinn 104

>>15807006
zenith is actually a very historied company that somehow just fell by the wayside and never recovered

>>15806998
Fraid not. You asked for cheap but my cheapest watch is a Nomos.

>>15806989
How old is that instruction anyway? 50 years? 60?

Soon the poor guy with his Rolex explorer will post it and probably make a statement about his butthole

>>15807001
Quartz I guess.
>>15807005
>Seiko.
>>15807007
>Sinn 104
Thanks. I'll look into these.

For relaxing times, make it Rolex explorer time.

btw, my butthole has been extra itchy today.
Scooting around on my office chair is proving almost orgasmic.

>>15807026
>Quartz I guess.
Citizen, Casio oceanus/edifice or Seiko.

>>15806995
>Movado
ehhhhhhhh
>Michael Khors
no, no, no. NO. dogshit
>Tissot
yea maybe

it'd be really helpful if you can post a pic of the type of watch that you like
they showed you a dress watch or what? get a tissot visodate/hamilton jazzmaster/hamilton khaki auto/seiko sharp edge/seiko presage or whatever

>>15806819
Newer the ones have tons of improvemens even the bracelet is a huge upgrade.

>>15807035
I want one when I'm making 6 figs a year

>>15806959
All of those you have to treat like a baby

Am I late?

>>15807058
No. We're early.

I got some exciting shitters coming in the mail for you guys. Do you want a collage of them all or sporadic posts as I pick them up?

>>15807058
>running
>3 cal
lose some weight fatty

>>15807095
sporadic

>>15806995
https://www.jomashop.com/milus-snow-star-heritage-watch-hkit001.html
this will only work if you have a small to medium sized wrist: https://www.jomashop.com/longines-watch-l16114522.html

>>15807040
>>15807044
>>15807111
Thank you all, I will look into this.

>>15807113
Yeah that snow star is a fantastic price for what you get, one of the better deals going right now

woop

>>15806995
If Tissot's design team wasn't purposefully hindered to protect the Swatch groups higher end brands they would make the best ETA shitters.

>>15806878
Looms way nerdier imo

>>15807148
you got the worst one
the all black and red highlights on the basic one work very well and the silver one has a real bracelet, feels very retro but the whole watch looks substantial all chromed out.
this just looks kinda lame

What’s a good watch to get for $600 (including tax+shipping)

>>15807162
Right now Certina is slipping under the radar and making some nice swatch shitters.

>>15807176
I like it

>>15806888
isn't the Tissot Visodate 40+mm? no roman numerals just indices but white dial, sapphire, and day date.

>>15807230
Don't worry, all royales are best royale.

>>15807048
you are right, i just read up on the improvements and at first i thought it's only movement things but yeah the clasp is a huge difference, also a better bezel and other shit. it's gonna be the new one i suppose.

Help me out anons, I've decided to start building a proper collection and I think I wanna get a 36mm left field ish dress watch, and a vintage style diver. I'm looking at Oris and Tudor, Big Crown Pointer Date and BB36 for dress-ish and Divers 65 and BB58 for diver. I'm leaning towards Pointer Date and 58 but I understand the latter is hard to find, and I'd wanna buy one legit if I'm dropping 4 grand on a watch so I can get a proper warranty. I've yet to talk to an AD about it though. Any suggestions or alternatives in that entry level luxury bracket?

>>15807026
Citizen Chronomaster all day.

>>15807245
Explorer and Sub

>>15807248
I don't know what I expected

>>15807176
I disagree
if I want to wear full stainless steel I'll wear my sub and think the all-black is just a bit boring

>>15807058
for dilation? yes.

>>15807245
The pointer date is the most interesting watch there.

>>15806768

>not taking a picture of the watch at seven minutes past midnight

>>15807245
Personally I'd get the pointer date & the 58.

>>15807245
The Tudor Explorer or w/e is fucking gay because the autismo freak circus at Tudor has to put "rotor self-winding" instead of "automatic." But the 58 is well executed. I'd get the PD and 58 too. That diver is very plain, it's a waste to not get the special edition Aquis models which are really something special and joyful to look at if you want an Oris diver.

>>15807245
Pointer Date and 58 for sure.
Pointer Date is pure soul and truly looks great (and original). I like the light blue or mint dial myself.

I am kinda new to the watch game, only been lurking for a couple of months. Q: Is Tudor getting hyped right now? I don't remember it being so prevalent when I got into watches earlier this year. Also, how's their quality? Are they a lot worse than Rolex or on the same level?

>>15807272
Tudor is definitely getting hyped and to be honest the hype is already wearing off a bit
Their quality is good but you can't trust Tudor because they cannot be allowed to outshine Rolex. The BB58 was an accident

>>15807216
The casio oceAnus is the real answer, pic related
Other options
It's $699 but it's a very good price
>>15807111
The orient trident
https://www.gnomonwatches.com/collections/steinhart/products/ocean-one-39-gmt-blue-red-jubilee-bracelet
The yema navygraf if they have a good sale and you don't run in to qc issues
One of the invicta tourbillions

>>15807272
Tudor has been getting massive hype over the last couple of years. But they really spiked the last couple of years with the BB58 and the fact that the Rolexes people want are waitlisted.

I just can't decide.

>>15807249
Sorry your poor.

>>15807280
white dial. More dressy overall.
However it might be my bias to Breguet numerals

>>15807245
Don't get a bb36
It's a hideous piece of shit and it's half an inch thick. Just don't do it

>>15807216
Bulova devil diver
https://www.jomashop.com/bulova-oceanographer-watch-96b321.html

>>15807291
get a g shock 5600 instead

>tfw fell for the Jomashop meme
>said "ships in 1-3 business days" when i ordered the watch.
>now says 4-8 weeks when i look at the same watch on jomashop
>its been 4 business days

gonna call them and cancel tomorrow, hope they dont fuck me over anymore

Rate the Invicta Shaq™ watch

>>15807309
Daring. Bold. Haute horlogerie

>>15807309
Slips right under the cuff.
I can recommend this watch for a wrist as small as 16cm circumference.

>>15807303

Rate this seiko "premier" kinetic perpetual calendar

>>15807230

>he likes something someone on /wt/ doesn’t like

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>>15806834

>>15807337
jesus thats a ugly.
I spent a minute trying to figure out what was what on this perpetual calendar.
Garbage where it belongs.

>>15807309
>niggered

>>15807058
>Running
Lmao, he's not running at all

>>15807245
I love the pointer date and the blue bb58 is a great throwback to the marine nationale/snowflake sub tudor era.

>>15807245
Faux riveted bracelets make me want to have an autistic meltdown

>>15807337
quartz is kino because you can easily implement perpetual calendar, I especially like how citizen does it on 3 handers, shame more manufacturers don't do this.

>>15807245
The oris 65 would look so much better without the fake patina lume . They didnt put it onbthe pointer date another vintage style watch why the 65.

I've yet to see anyone who genuinely loves fauxtina lume most people tolerate it. I could understand a cream but the larpy smokers teeth yellow is a joke

>>15807245
Bearing a dead horse here, but Pointer and BB58 for sure.

imagine the smell

Hello, I am retarded and gay. I would like to get a silver bracelet style band for an old Casio MDV-106 I have, but I'm not sure how safe it is to buy one online. It's 22mm, but is there anything else I need to look out for so I get a band that's compatible with it? Thanks.

>>15807410
https://youtu.be/aIgoLwzR_0U

>>15807035
Hey butt buddy

>>15807396
>I've yet to see anyone who genuinely loves fauxtina lume
I do.

>>15807425
If it didn't have arabic numerals I'd get this thing instead of a sub

>>15807444
Just get an OP, it’s the Explorer but with better indices and less ugly hands.

>>15807452
Yeah I thought so

>>15807452
Movement isn't the same ;)

>>15807391
because quartz is superior, there is no argument

>>15807470
Yeah the new OP has a 70 hour power reserve while the Explorer 1 has 48 hours. Unless there’s some cataclysmic manufacturing defect I don’t know that there is an advantage to the movement used in the Explorer other than the fact that it’s older.

>>15807245
The best watch you can get into is a 300m, older or newer. Planet Ocean, Aqua Terra or Speedy are other options. They are better watches than the blackbay line whatever /wt/ says. You have to see them in person they are hard to photograph.

You can get them on the Grey Market from trusted dealers (i use watches world) for close to used prices.

A few guys here will come out of the wood works bashing Omega but they are hard to beat for the money.

>>15807475
31s are less prone to QC issues compared to the 32s. Seriously, fuck 32s.

>>15807505
Fully lume the hands and sort out the shitshow bracelet and it would be so much better

>>15807509
why I have the 114270. also prefer the 36mm

>>15807530
Lume is kind of overrated, its nice and all don't get me wrong but as long as there is good contrast in the hand to dial its all you need (blued hand on white dial) and the braclet is very comfortable due to that design love it or hate it, you can always buy a planet ocean 39.5mm, they don't wear as think as people think.

>>15807560
>Lume is kind of overrated
I unironically use the lume of my watch every night. Its how I know how much longer I can sleep for. Better than a screen in the middle of the night.
also
>that helium escape valve
I can't take any diver with a manual helium escape valve seriously. Since its not a useful feature for 99% of people who buy these watches. Its literally just another stupid ugly crown. Say what you want about Rolex at least their helim escape valves are 'automatic'.

get some colour in your life

>>15807615
Don't mind the lime-green on the watch, but a blue nato strap would look better imo.

>>15807615
dont know why but im getting some Air King vibes from this.
disgusting.
Laco should just stick to b-uhrs

>>15807620
air KANG

>>15807615
Nice design, but I don’t like the limey green

>>15807620
>every watch is a Rolex ripoff hurrr
Take your meds, schizo, it has literally nothing in common with an Air King.

come to where the flavor is

>>15807633
Nice watch but I want to get Reddit’s opinion before buying one

>>15807633
>pulled crown
Uh-oh, lets fix that.

>>15807635
Get a sinn with kino syringe hands

>>15807633
>>15807639
w2c?

Do I buy brown or wait for blue? I've wanted one of these as my final shitter for a while now but I always hesitate when they're in stock.

idk why my aerospace evo has a minute repeater but it does.

>>15806723
The fucks box dome?

Why is he so GAY for NOMOS?

https://youtu.be/g610vbSGMsU

>>15806785
Zenith

>>15807831
because nomos is a poofter watch

intredasting

>>15807336
I’m guessing you must be American - and therefore fond of cut things

>>15807639
like the strap senpai

>>15807309
Will look great with a Maserati

>mfw all the eta shitters itt

>>15807910
Holy fuck get a better camera I can’t tell if this is a fucking fake

>>15807913
cope poorfag

>>15807148
looks good anon

A wristwatch is for larping and wasting money. My 20 year old negress assistant tells me the time when I ask for it.

Which one? I like how less obscured the numerals are on the second one, but the first one has a more pleasing layout of the inner dials. I'm torn.

In my country Ulysse Nardin seems to just fly over most watch buyers heads but apparently it's really popular in Russia and post soviet states

What do you think about this brand?

>>15806878
aye

I need it.

>>15807760
How are you liking it?
I lusted after one for a while.

>>15807925
>tfw no timetelling slave

I always see the word "personality" thrown around concerning watch collections.
What exactly does it mean for your collection to have a "personality"?
Or is it just a way to deter you from buying popular mainstream models i.e. Explorer, Sub, Speedy etc?

I recently posted this ugly rarity from my collection. It’s the kind of thing that is incredibly rare, but not valuable. Lacking the aftermarket support of mod and spare parts it was relegated to the drawer. I was able to snipe a beaten up example for cheap, which I’ll refurbish and nurse back to working condition. This way I won’t feel bad getting this damaged from daily wear. It’s when you get multiple examples of the same watch that you realize you are on the spectrum. I am a nose hair away from flapping my hands and arms while watching my favorite Japanese animations

>>15807505
They are based.

You can't in good faith say this isn't a mental illness

>>15806989
soul

>>15807245
>entry level luxury

>>15807306
what watch

>>15807994
He's not wrong, a couple of those are in the $1000-2000 range, which I would say is the affordable luxury zone. You can get a lot of watch for less, but I do think that's when you break into the luxury market.

>>15807505
>cuck-axial

>>15808002
>affordable luxury
Are you retarded? Seriously.

>>15807505
>>15807970
>>15807560

>those wavey bezels
>those skeleton hands
>those squiggly lines on the dial

For some reason newer omega divers have at least 2 elements that peeve me, apart from the overall blobbyness that I dislike.. Will Omega ever be great again?

>>15808002

Rule of thumb here: If it's affordable, it isn't luxury. Matter of fact: If you can just walk into a shop and give them your money for it, it isn't luxury.. Luxury involves exclusivity, waiting for it, being denied the pleasure and various barriers to entry. However artificial (think Rolex subs), that's what makes something luxury: The manufacturer making it as hard as possible for you to acquire it..

>>15808017
Maybe in fashion circles that's the case, but not in watches. Nor in cars, a Lexus is considered a luxury vehicle, you can buy one literally anywhere. This high fashion bullshit is melting your brains.

>>15808017
youre a retard

>>15808027

Lexus isn't luxury. It's just your average lease brand, a step under the German ones. That's the place they take in the EU landscape anyway.


Also, I did not say I agreed, or even see merit in 'luxury'.. However, actual luxury entails a certain exclusivity that you just don't get with stuff ordinary people can buy at will.

>>15808028

You're.

>>15808029
i mean hes not wrong

>>15807035
wow ugly

>>15806774
me and who?

>>15807945
Fuck. What's the ref number?

>>15807945
>>15808069
Found a better pic. It's fucking gorgeous.
Fucking Seiko, it's some vintage discontinued watch, no hope of finding a nice one.

>>15807760
>aerospace evo
Pics?

>>15808031
None of those are luxury, Lambo is luxury.

>>15807934
First one just looks better. Offset logo looks a lot more interesting and inner dials look less cramped.

>>15807979
That's why I haven't boughten a microbrand yet. Been thinking about it for a year but I feel I need to see every possible choice before dropping about 750 on one.

>>15808080
>entry level supercar
>luxury
could have said Bentley, Rolls, Maybach, Lagonda, even Bugatti.
but you went with the brand known for a $100K fire hazard.

>>15808017
So a ferrari is not luxury? Because I could walk into a dealership and buy one today if I had the money

looking for something that has a casio mq-24 esque dial but with a more standard steel construction under under 150 usd. not too concerned about the rest of the specs I just want to know my options, although automatic movement is a plus.

>>15808073
It is beautiful but it would pain me to pay big money for a seiko 5 no matter how beautiful

>>15808073
it's not one of those pajeet specials is it?

>>15808102
Don't worry, he's just fucked from years of chasing Supreme.

My business dress watch? A metal square of course! Why yes, it's the only watch I have, how could you tell?

>>15808135
Unironically nothing wrong with that, it is even based as fuck, the humble way to flex. ''I have so much money you know I'm rich even if I wear a Casio''.

Mechanical watches are such a huge waste of money.

>pay 4 figures for watch
>not even accurate
>pay $500 to have it serviced every few years
>functionality already done by your phone

>>15808135
based
>>15808140
quartz is superior

hello im a retard who never wore a watch.
Please spoonfeed me the QRD on Russian/soviet watches

>>15808140
>talking about wasting money
>on a fashion board
i hate it here

>>15808102

No, the Ferraris you just buy from the showeroom are not really luxury. It's getting there, but they're mostly still basix bitch models rich folks buy for their daughters and mistresses.. Buy 3 with all options and you might get an offer to buy a really exclusive model. Maybe. Don't also have a Lambo in the driveway, they don't like that apparantly..

>>15808132

>Supreme

Isn't that that meme skateboard brand? Perfect example that exclusivity in and of itself is considered desirable, even if it's streetwear fit for 13 year olds.

You just seem mad that your shit isn't luxury m8. Ease the salt a little..

>>15808140
Mechanical watches as a concept is a total bullshit, th most important things in a watch are desing and utility. Design can be done well in quartz and mech, quartz beats mech in utility by far. All mechanic watches are meme shit like fake heritage,proposition value, in house movement that most of the time it does the same work as a mass produced and has highest repair fees and overall mechanical has a high maintenance so you are a cuck for paying more to get a mech and then paying more for having the repairs done. And don't even talk about accuracy, talking about accuracy in mechanical watches is a pure circlejerk, everybody knows their accuracy is terrible compared to quartz yet the circlejerkers congratulate themselves when their expensive shitters run at +45s per month.
Watches should be bought thinking about the design instead of the type of movement, not buying something you like because it is quartz is retarded.

>>15808115
>>15808118
Yep, the bigger problem would be finding one tho.
I imagine there are not a lot of these left out there.
If it is a pajeet special, kudos to the pajeet he did a great job.

>>15808156
>the Ferraris you just buy from the showeroom are not really luxury.

>>15808159

Sorry to burst your bubble. No worries m8, Italian automobiles a shit anyway.

>>15808140
I definitely think that in order to catch the mechanical watch bug you have to possess at least some level of fascination with the idea that people are able to engineer a machine made of springs and gears with no electronic parts that is able to keep relatively accurate time, in a size small enough to be worn on the wrist. If that doesn't get your juices flowing, and you're not that particular about like quality construction and such, then yeah, it's just not for you and would likely be a waste of money. Everybody has different interests and hobbies, watches ain't yours.

>>15808074
>>15807760
Are there any other "luxury" quartz watches like that (except the Omega space speedy)?

>>15808156
You can buy a Rolls Royce straight from the showroom, you stupid nigger.
Luxury means an expensive and/or rare commodity.
Notice the "or"

>>15808162
>200k+ sports cars aren't luxury

>>15808164
damn i've never heard that so eloquently said

>>15806819
Is a Rolex Submariner a decent investment ? If I am getting a watch at such prices I expect it to atleast hold the value. I would be looking at a Hulk most likely. Would only really wear it on special occasions and otherwise store it away to either one day sell it or keep it until I am older and have kids to gift it to them.

>>15808159
>>15808170
You guys starting to see why it annoys me so much that these watch threads are on the fashion board?

>>15808177
/wt/ was shit the moment they moved it off /g/ to the /fa/g board

>>15808164
If you buy cheap watches, even when mechanical, people will talk shit about your watches because they are cheap and not finely crafted pieces that hold horological value. The autism is more than just liking gears, if that was all, people would be purchasing seagull watches and chinese skeletonized watches. This hobby is filled with snobs.

>>15808017
No, luxury means it cost more than the average/basic item of the same type. A 35k eur car is luxury because you can buy 20k cars. 100 eur pants are luxury becuase you can buy 40eur pants...Luxury means anything that is not necessary and you pay for the premium extras.

>>15808178
Seriously. These high-fashion fucks care about nothing except for people recognizing what you're wearing (and how expensive it is), and exclusivity.

>>15808183
eh /wt/ now is great comedy now watching wannabe yuppies argue about watches they can't afford.

>>15807917
Nice Bambino

>>15808179
There are snobs in every hobby, that's not strictly in watches. Plenty of people stop at the Seiko SKX or Orient Mako or Long Island Watch Islander models and are plenty happy. Plus those Sea-Gull 1963 watches are very popular in the community. Somebody right now is getting made fun of for their Rolex not being a Vacheron, Patek, or Audemars, it doesn't mean you have to have one of those to be a mechanical watch fan.

>>15808166

Rolls counts, I'll give you that.

>>15808170
>>15808177
>>15808178

Get madder.

>>15808179

>35k car is a luxury

The state of you coping fags, please

Again: I don't particularly see the merits in luxury and/or exclusivity either, but I'm not the salty one here. Sounds like all you faggots would like to be more deluxe than you are..

But I'm sure the actual problem is that I'm some fashion snob, right? Right. Not projection by a buch of man-purse chasing faggots at all, I'm sure..

Imagine needing more

>>15808188
>Somebody right now is getting made fun of for their Rolex not being a Vacheron, Patek, or Audemars,

Now we're getting to the core of what luxury actually is, anon. Nice.

>>15808179
>This hobby is filled with snobs.
maybe if you hang out with the pleb crowd

WUS is full of obscure cheap chinese, russian and microshitters. No snobbery

>>15808199
>>Somebody right now is getting made fun of for their Rolex not being a Vacheron, Patek, or Audemars,
Surely you realize that being made fun for not having the basic standard, and being made fun for not having a 1% version of that standard are different things?

>>15808197
Two is one and one is none

When the fuck is Laventure going to have stock?

>>15807583
>>15808013

I don't sleep with watch on, I have a larger wall clock which I use at night. You will never dive with your watch, so why even buy a dive watch, better still why buy a watch use your phone. Fast car what the point, you can only do the speed limit...... watch guys are so nitpicky.

I use to look at the explorer like thats a really nice watch , it's to plan Jane now for the price.

>>15808204

Luxury is all about unobtainable standards and berating the lesser plebs that do not meet the standard.

Don't ask me why people chase it, but that is what it is.

>>15808215

I love the 36mm explorer, but I cannot really justify spending 5k+ eurobucks for a steel 3hander quite yet. Some of the 39mms are cheaper, but not as cool imo.

>>15808204
Correct, the context in which I said that was meant to point out that it was absurd and therefore not the same thing. Good reading comprehension, anon.

>>15808197
>>15808207
Which model is this? Any shot of the illuminator?

>>15808232

Luxury is absurd, in the sense of nonsensical. Illogical. Unnecessary. Often downright unpractical..

>>15808234
It's the F-105W, I'll snap a shot for you but it's basically gshock style illuminator on a f91w.

>>15808197
Royale is the ultimate watch, or Gshock square/mudman.

>>15808236
Only if you're talking about that one guys luxury where it has to be from the holy trinity to be considered luxury. I'll give you that luxury is (by definition) unnecessary, but I wouldn't necessarily say nonsensical it illogical.

>>15808234
Best I can do, hard to get a good shot before it times out.

>>15808246

I am that guy, and you're missing the point. It doesn't have to be from the Holy 3..

>not nonsensical or illogical

Not luxury yet.

>>15808249
Damn, that's way better than the shitty little F91W light. Why don't I see this more often?

>>15808255
I had the original watch when it was released (it was my second watch ever), in a world dominated by f91w I was a king amongst kids with that bright light reigning supreme in the dark.

I just bought this from some clueless zoomer second hand store. They had it listed the brand as "Carter" lol. 30 USD shipped.

>>15808264
Now I'm actually pissed that there's no CA53W shape calculator watches with that backlight. Especially when they just did new color variants with negative displays and still didn't give it a backlight.

>>15808273
Casio is always dropping the ball

>>15808272
maybe its fake,but worth a try

>>15808281
I hope so it looks like shit

>>15808281
I'm planning to get it appraised by some local jeweler, if it's real and ticks then I will probably sell it.
If not, then I can always flip it to some poor cunt on eBay.

This thread made me get out my casikino royale

>>15808281
>maybe

lol

>>15807925
>paying a wage to tell the time

hi im tim
as you can see it wears like a 40mm

>>15808173
>watch
>good investment

>>15808029
>Lexus isn't luxury
better than driving a Mini Metro desu

>>15807925
do you fuck her cos otherwise what's the point of having her

>>15808322
Slips right under the his cuff as you can see.

>>15808334
hi im tim
as you can see this will slip under the tightest of dress cuffs no problem

>>15808322
Even when the lug to lug is 54mm ,hugs the wrist nicely.

>>15808322
>two memory card slots
nice

De Bethune doesn't make a single nice watch.

>>15808341
No, these are the vents,tourbillon and wheen rotates so fast it needs a cooling system.

>>15807675
these are back in stock?

blue looks better desu

>>15808149
rugged no frills workhorse watches with old inhouse movements
vostoks are kino and very mod friendly
still produced with cold war machinery
luch one handers are kino
poljots are nice
vintage raketas are kino but you have to do homework because there are many frankenstein watches out there

>>15807280
What reference are these Orients?

hi tim im
as you can see it wears with elegance

>>15808287
if they only made a solar version

>>15808156
The tailor made ferraris where you customize every single aspect of the car definitely counts. You'll probably have to wait a year or two for them to build it I think

Just saw a Reverso in the wild on a middle-aged lady.
It was really nice and tasteful in every way.

That is all.

>>15808381
Buddy, the cheapest Ferrari you can buy new is over $200k
They all count as "luxury".

>>15808363
wtf is this really a patek?
the case looks like a $10 mall shitter

>a 7k steel watch is luxury
>a 300k italian sports car is not
sometimes I forget that 4chan is so contrarian that people even pretend to be retarded to make an argument

>>15808389
>7k steel watch is luxury
no it isn't retard

>>15808390
see
>>15808017

>>15808390
Yeah, nah, those Rolexes and Omegas are genuine practical tools lol

>>15808395
sorry you're poor and think anything outside of your pathetic buying power is luxury

>>15808394
>>15808017
>If you can just walk into a shop and give them your money for it, it isn't luxury

Probably the most retarded thing I'll read all day.

>>15808398
There's always something out of reach for anyone's budget.

"Luxury" is whatever isn't a necessity, but costs a lot of money relative to the average person's buying power.

>>15808401
no fuckwit, there is an objective threshold. just because you can't afford a rolex doesn't mean it's luxury

>>15808402
It's absolutely luxury.
It costs many thousands of dollars, but keeps worse time than a $15 Casio.

>>15808388
Many luxury timepieces look like mall shitters

>>15808398
Counts as something necessary for basic needs?, Yes=not a luxury, No=Luxury. It's not about the cost of the item, it's about the need of that item. In watches, everything that is above Casio tier is a luxury, specially if you already have a phone because you can see the time with it, not a luxury if you need your watch at work.

>>15808388
well, Patek is essentially a top of the range mall brand in Southeast Asia and the Middle East, the rough equivalent of what Baume et Mercier is in North America

Pretty much any wristwatch over $100 is a luxury. After that you're just arguing degrees of luxury but for the average person $200 for a watch is expensive whereas for watch enthusiasts $200 is not even shittier tier, it's unthinkable.
Watch enthusiasts live in a very small bubble.

>>15806768
Why do all watches in these threads look so shit. Hurdurr poorfag, idc you need one good watch for the outdoors and casual use, more thick with more functions and a sleek watch with some unique twist to show your sophictication, due to appreciation to the craft or upkeeping a tradition by wearing your grandfathers watch.

POST LATE THREAD SHITTERS CYKA

>>15808436
Damn how thick are amphibias?

>>15808416
I remember going into one AD that sells PP among other brands. It was less intimidating than I thought

It was here that I learned that you have to have a collection of PP's perpetual calendars and the like to be able to ask for one of their minute repeaters

>>15808440
tuna tier

>>15808381
>You'll probably have to wait a year or two for them to build it I think

So what you're saying is you can't just walk in and take one home. Gotcha.

>>15806819
Get the 14060, you won't regret it and it's considered the last old school sub and is still somewhat of a sleeper watch. It's rugged and modern enough to whatever you eant with it and will look great even when you've beat it up. If you're worried about water resistance and/or authenticity just have it serviced/checked by someone competent when you get it. Tell the watchmaker before you buy it you'd like him to help you verifying the watch.

>>15808389

>moneymoneymoney

Money is no object when it comes to luxury. Also, most of Rolexs offerings aren't really luxury either..

A basic bitch Ferrari is you can just buy, unlike a Rolex Hulk.

>>15808390

Exactly.

>>15808394

You can just walk in and buy 7k swiss shitters mostly. That's the point. Not. Luxurious.

>>15808443
>It was here that I learned that you have to have a collection of PP's perpetual calendars and the like to be able to ask for one of their minute repeaters

THAT, is true luxury. 'Oh you want that? You can't have it'.

What's the point of buying a R*lex when you can get a less than $1000 fake that can't be spotted without a loupe and comparison pictures.

>>15808440
They are pretty thick but a third of that is the big domed acrylic crystal

>>15807658
Laco Squad
>green: Amazonas
>orange: Mojave
>blue: Atlantik

>>15808464
you should do it if you feel good wearing one, i know it would chip at my conscience

>>15808464
Worse accuracy, less shock resistance, less robust, less tolerance and more error prone. Inferior materials, easier to damage, no guaranteed water resistance. Can't be serviced or repaired. Admitting to having no self respect if you buy one. Giving chink criminals money.

>>15808475
>if I'm going to be fleeced I want it to be by a white man

>>15808475
Hmm, support chinks or price gouging artificial scarcity mountain jews. Tough choice.

>>15808464
The same reason you buy a Benz and not a Toyota. You want to drive a Benz, not a Toyota.

>>15808483
At least you can resell the real thing for most of, or even more than, what you paid for it.

>>15808489
But if no one can tell it's a fake Benz does it matter?

>>15808489
a landcruiser is objectively superior to any mercedes

>>15808492
what the fuck is up with you rolex gays and reselling
when I buy a watch I want to wear the watch not sell the watch later on

>>15808497
That is just you. For the majority of people a Rolex is the most expensive watch they'll ever buy, maybe the only mechanical watch they'll ever buy, so knowing it is an investment or inheritance for their relatives is good to know.

>>15808497
>when the watch is so good all you can think is selling it instead of using and enjoying it.

>>15808494
It's still a fake Benz and I don't want that.
>>15808496
I don't care if the specs are better, I want a Benz.

>>15808497
That's all modern Rolex buyers think about. They baby it and never wear it to preserve resell value. While their chad grandparents wore that shit like a timex shitter. Both modern Rolex and their audience are cringe.

>>15808503
Why the fuck would I care about my watch being an investment for my relatives? I would expect them to wear it, not sell it. It's not like the watch is the only thing I have to leave them. Who fucking thinks like this? It seems like such an illogical viewpoint. I would expect my son to not sell his dead dad's watch unless it was literally the only option he had before dying of starvation.

>>15806768
>>15806815
>>15806878
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>>15808287
okay /wt/, I waited a long time to buy this watch and they're not getting any cheaper, so I bought used today after I saw the thread

>>15808497
That's what happens to people who want to "keep up with the joneses" but are in an unstable middle class situation like a large portion of poeple on the internet. If you were actually rich then a rolex would be a drop in the bucket.

>>15808509
Kids these days are worthless, can't tell you how many guns I've bought from peoples kids shortly after they died. Heirloom stuff they simply don't appreciate.

>>15808509
>Who fucking thinks like this?
>>15808173
>Would only really wear it on special occasions and otherwise store it away to either one day sell it or keep it until I am older and have kids to gift it to them.

Sounds like get this watch I stored for years, sell it, and spend the money on drugs and vacations because it has no sentimental value at all.

>>15808511
Nice, you won't regret it.

>>15807425
>>15807023
Kek.

>>15808497
At least 50% of all rolex sport models that leave the AD go straight into a bank safe and will never be worn by the buyer

>>15808511
is that romania?

>>15808509
You’re right of course but most modern people don’t think along those lines. My father is a big watch collector, as am I, and he is leaving everything to me rather than my siblings because he knows I won’t immediately try and pawn all his shit to fund some stupid Chanel bags and cocaine.

Preserving heirlooms for future generations is important. It’s a reminder of the lifetime of work done so that they could be born in a position of privilege and influence. Selling an heirloom watch is unfathomable to me.

>>15808462
>A basic bitch Ferrari is you can just buy, unlike a Rolex Hulk.
I can just buy a Hulk on chrono24 and have it delivered before christmas. I will never be able to buy a ferrari.
So a Playstation 5 is a luxury item because you cant buy it, but a $50m penthouse in New York is not?

>>15808530
>living in a cuckblock in jew york
lmao

>>15808530
You can buy a PS5 right now. For $1000 you can have one with 2 day shipping from ebay.

>>15808526
It's totally fine if the heirloom has seen actual use, if it's on the safe 99,9% of the time, the watch will just be a valuable token with no sentimental value.

>>15808475
>Can't be serviced or repaired
ETA movements cant be repaired?

>>15808533
exactly like a Hulk, whats your point?
>>15808532
>deflecting

>>15808526
Same. My uncle will leave me all his watches because he knows I appreciate them. He told me I can sell them all but the Speedmaster as it has great sentimental value, so I will respect that.

>>15808534
So then why not just buy stocks or gold instead of buying muh rolex to put it in a safe and just sell it? In fact why not buy that stuff and buy a Rolex and just wear it instead of treating it like it's an investment?
Every time I hear people talking about Rolex and they bring up reselling my eyes roll. Fuck off. Imagine thinking that you not owning the watch anymore, is something that people want to hear about.

>>15808539
>Every time I hear people talking about Rolex and they bring up reselling my eyes roll
thats because the average rolex owner has to somehow rationalize spending a 6 month salary on his watch

Anybody here bought a fake Rolex for a social experiment? Just want to see how people would react

>>15808530
Don’t bother. What that guy fails to understand is that luxury is inherently gated by a high barrier to entry, i.e. luxury goods are expensive. His “muh exclusivity” argument is retarded because something is exclusive if it is sufficiently expensive. He already admitted Rolls Royce is luxury despite the fact that you can just walk in and buy one, and the reason it falls under the purview of luxury is because they are so expensive that they immediately price out 99.99% of potential buyers.
>>15808534
Very true. I should clarify that by heirloom I meant a watch that had actually seen some use. A safe queen wouldn’t hold any particular sentimental value unless it was exceptional in some other way.

>>15808517
Thanks anon, I'm certain.
>>15808525
Sad to say it isn't, Bulgaria, and a shitty part of town.

>>15808545

No, the reason a Rolls is a luxury is because paying that much for something handmade in England (ergo: of dubious quality) just because it's shiny captures the essence of today's luxury-chaser..

>>15808551
Why is RR luxury but ferrari is not?

>>15808544
Wore many many fakes when I was young. Everybody believed it because they always thought we were paid. If you want to attract that kund if girlmwomqn go for it, it works

>>15808200
People who call it a “hobby” are braindead to begin with.

Normal people don’t give a single shit about your watch.

>>15808566
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>>15808566

>>15808535
>ETA movements cant be repaired?
Most high end fakes these days have rolex clone movements of extremely dubious quality or heavily modified 9015 movements with clone movement plates and balances and other shit that almost guarantee the reliability will be shit and nobody wants to work on them. There are some with chinese eta clones but especially on the more accurate "super clones" they aren't very common.

>>15808563
>Normal people don’t give a single shit about your watch.
It's a lot of fun to spot nice watches in public though.
And unless they're garish nouveau riche status symbols (Rolex, Royal Oak, ...), they really do elevate your impression of the wearer.

>>15808595
No I mean I do the same. I’m just talking about snobbery in forums. Normal people don’t care what brand you’re wearing.

Hamilton Leithauser, a pretty successful musician, always wears a cheap Casio and it looks cool on him. He clearly has enough money to get something nice, but chooses this instead.

>>15806819
>Rolex Submariner
What is /fa/'s hot take on Submariners?

There is not doubt 10k for a mass produced dive watch is silly on one hand, but then the fact they don't lose too much value, and may actually increase in value is there. Then you need to consider Rolex's will only impress the plebs and normies. You may look like kind of an asshole to anyone who knows anything about watches. At the end of the day, 98% of the time, it's a basic bitch flex piece.

You can make $10,000 go a LONG LONG way if you know what you are doing. I turned $2,000 into a half a million dollar company in 4 years. So unless you make over $200,000 a year, you will really look like an asshole. I like the rule of thumb, that your watch should be 2 weeks of your earnings.

I guess want I am trying to say is wearing a Rolex will appear as a desperate flex piece of the normie to most of the people who know, and do anything.

Anyway, the proportions of the watch on the left looks fucked up to me.

>>15808173
>decent investment

People like to say that. You would be better off buying stocks or real estate. You are investing in an fashion icon. I dubious prospect.

>>15806888
check out Orient Watches.

>>15807245
Oris and Tudor are cope brands IMO. Especially Tudor.

>>15807910
>>15807917
Your in an ad, larp harder

>>15808511
>>15808549
Bogdan?

>>15808511
baste

>>15807917
ugly watch

>>15808549
>Sad to say it isn't, Bulgaria, and a shitty part of town.
Looks like Croatia 20 years ago. I wish it stayed that way.

>>15809301
No