/fa/ - Fashion

>>15779904
https://www.instagram.com/luca_rubinacci/
https://www.instagram.com/sartoria_peluso/
https://www.instagram.com/sartoria_a.caraceni/
https://www.instagram.com/sartoria_dalcuore/
https://www.instagram.com/cifonelli_official/

Did not forget them this time, the post just gives me the "field too long" warning

>>15779904
I follow this dude on insta. Good fits but German autism. All of his posts seem weird

Cunt we had like six posts left b4 the bump limit

>>15780176
He does it every time. Just ask your question again here

*patiently waits for the raging faggot to arrive and seethe about working cuffs like he does every thread*

>>15780022
Link or name?

>>15780873
justusf_hansen from the OP post

Delete thewomaninatie from the OP. Objectively her fits suck and the only reason she’s there is due to tits. Sonya is the only based sprezz woman

>>15780947
We could move the links to a pastebin, I just don't like that they are harder to access then

>>15780958
I have been wanting to clean up the OP text for awhile and move insta links to a pastebin so that we can add a section on brands to check out.
I'm too lazy to do it though

>>15780961
Can a pastebin text be edited later on? By anyone? I also thought about having the OP text in a separate pastebin, because some guys just copy and paste the OP post, which usually breaks the YouTube link

>>15780968
Yeah, anyone can edit it.
I want to simplify the text, add all insta links to a pastebin and add a section for brands either in their own section or a pastebin.

>>15780974
My problems with "anyone can edit" is, that trolls can destroy the content then

>>15781001
They don't though. /TIP/ has had one for years, no one cares, and TIP is just asking to be trolled

>>15781051
LINK IMMEDIATELY

>>15781055
>>15767016
All their pastebins are in their OP. Pretty sure no one ever reads it though since /tip/ is basically just 4 or 5 people LARPing together posting the cringiest fit pics known to man

>>15781051
Great, I'll add them then

>>15781055
What good does it do? Is it really going to give you so much satisfaction if someone were to open their pastebin and find some slur instead of links to shops?

Did a template with the pastebins. Unfortunately, you need an account there in order to edit the existing paste:

Post template - https://pastebin.com/PWznETCK
Inspo - https://pastebin.com/aj60u0Uz
Shops - https://pastebin.com/KMAUhYTC

>>15780831
>still thinking about an anonymous exchange last week
>but the other guy is raging
sure thing buddy
Nowhere have I 'raged' about working cuffs or even expressed an opinion about them. What I have said and continue to say is leaving them open serves no purpose and is at best a tacky imitation of others.
Turns out Charles Tyrwhitt jackets and suits typically come with working cuffs too. Still care to make the claim that they are a sign of quality or have you backed off that ridiculous assertion?

>>15781399
No one cares

>>15781483
You do, which is why you replied
He does, which is why he posted about it in the first place, assuming you aren't him

>>15762595
If the anon is still here、what company made your trousers?

>>15781399
Question about CT:
Iam currently getting into classic menswear and already own a few shirts by CT and am quite pleased with the different fits they offer. Also i find the quality of the shirts to be very good for the price. I do not own a suit from them, but considered to get one of the higher priced range just to see if the fit would work for me with alterations in mind or rather if their cuts would even allow for reasonable alterations on my body.
If you happen to know what things would be a dealbreaker in terms of quality i would be very thankful to know. Is their interlining fused in general or can one at least expect half canvas construction with proper stitching on the higher priced ones?

>>15781549
Gentleman's Gazette has a video on CT, maybe they explain something about the suits

>>15781549
I'm too interested. Their jackets are almost twice the price of T.M. Lewin.

>>15781549
If you just want to see how they fit why not get a lower priced one? The fit won't change too much and you will save enough to decide if you want a more expensive one. They have sales as low as 99 Eurobux, essentially trial garments at that price. They seem to have three basic cuts - Classic, Slim Fit, Extra Slim Fit. Doesn't matter how much you spend on a suit in any given cut, the fit will be the same.
major dealbreaker is polyester. maybe in the lining at that price point but definitely not in the outside fabric.
The description for the few I checked out all say half canvas. As for proper stitching that depends on your definition of the term. Most likely made abroad as you can tell by cheap rhetorical tricks such as 'Woven in England' instead of 'Made'
All that said I personally would skip them. You can go up a little in price and get something better elsewhere or even MTM.

>>15781573
Thx for the reply and the hint.

Polyester is also something that Iam split on. In the lining of an overcoat for example I can accept it, if the fabric itself is nice because I want it warm anyways.
But in a sport coat or suit jacket its also a dealbreaker for me, as it only leads to sweating. Ill have an eye on that. I was also thinking about suit supply, as I already own a waistcoat which only needed some alteration on the back, but judging by the photos it seems their trousers might be way too tight for my taste, not to speak of comfort.

>>15781977
>it only leads to sweating
you're gonna coom when you learn about poly/cotton blends!

>>15781987
I hope that means i should avoid it even more than pure polyester. I mean the actual weave plays a role in terms of how breathable a fabric is, but poly is just like a plastic bag to me.

>>15782052

How do you even wear blue suede shoes?

>>15781059
what's the difference with sprezz

>>15782154
You wear them with casual outfits in hot weather.

Blue shoes pair extremely well with navy, grey, and extremely light shades of beige like flax/natural linen.

>>15782165
I'm on the edge. Got only like one or two chinos to pair them with. Are suede monk straps fine to wear with shorts?

>>15782211
Suede double monks are super meme. I think the casual material works better with less ornate shoes or just regular loafers. In general, try to get shoes that are maximally versatile with maybe one distinctive element unless you're really confident you can pull them off without looking retarded. Even if you do, they're not something you're going to wear nearly as much as if you had separate pairs of
>Suede shoes.
>Monk shoes.
>Blue shoes.

>>15782219
This being said, blue shoes are criminally underrated and go with fucking tons of fits. But keep the rest of the shoe simple.

Full meme.

>>15782219
Pic related would be slightly less of a meme. Could use a lighter brown though.
>>15782233
>not suede

>>15782236
And these?

What is the difference between high end and low end suede?

cop?

>>15782452
could just be the pic but the color seems off, almost orangish

>>15782634
different pic

>>15782312
Pronunciation.

>>15782312
leather quality is dependent on the health of the animal and the integirty of the skin
high end suede comes from the best animals at the best farms and receives the highest quality grade based on visual inspections and mechanical tactile tests.

Should I actually pay what Gucci asks for for their horsebit loafers?

>>15783199
Why would you pay for Gucci as opposed to a real shoe brand?

>>15783216
Fucking retard

>>15783240
I'd ask the same question as this guy >>15783216, how is that retarded?

>>15782312
Low end suede is cut from the middle of the leather and basically just a fragile mess of shitty fibers. It's tragic and doesn't last, but almost nobody can tell the difference without a side-by-side comparison (pic related, can you?). High end suede will last almost forever. and is normal leather flipped over.

>>15783199
I spent some time in Gucci staring at shoes and flirting with the attendants. Vintage would likely be better quality.The shoes are okay, but overpriced 2x what they're worth for the construction quality and comfort. If you want something flashy, go with Magnanni instead. They're less expensive and considerably better quality.

>>15782452
>>15782640
Hard pass. Those look comically bad.

>>15783569
>High end suede will last almost forever. and is normal leather flipped over.
No, that's roughout. Suede is always the low end stuff.

>>15783574
Full grain suede is the same thing you call roughout. I'm not in america, and I've never even heard of that term before.

>>15783578

>>15783579

>>15783569
>High end suede will last almost forever. and is normal leather flipped over.
But can't they use lower quality leather, as surface marks will not be visible, thus no need for correcting the grain? In which case, I'd expect any reputable brand to use full grain suede, as low quality leather is cheap.

By way of an example, Loake 1880 and Shoemakers ranges are both made in England, using the same construction techniques. The former uses full grain, while the latter corrected grain. But can there realistically be any significant quality difference between the suede each range uses?

>>15783578
Suede is, by definition, not full grain. Suede is one of the fleshier layers you get when you split the hide apart.

>>15783801
Isn't suede just a type of finish? So you can flip full grain leather and finish the inner side, maintaining the strength of the leather?

>>15783805
shut up you uneducated horse I’m not explaining that which can be easily looked up online

>>15783805
No. Flipping a full or top grain inside out is called roughout. Meaning rough side out.

You can modify a top grain leather into a suede-like finish, yes, but that's nubuck.

>>15783805
>unwilling to educate himself before re-engaging in the conversation, outing himself as an idiot

kek

>>15783805
stop asking when you can learn yourself, you filthy dependent

>>15782452
>>15782640
Absolutely not.That chisel toe looks terrible (chiselling passing the cap, what?) and Loake is low quality just in general. It's almost always worth it to wait until you can buy two pairs of Loakes and get one pair of Crocketts instead.

>>15783801
>>15783810
>>15783851
Explain why the churches using full grain suede are called suede?

>>15781399
Completely agree. Sadly menswear circles are filled with pathetic chuds who copy 100% everything that a few chads are doing. So it all often becomes a boring uniform worn by regards who think they're some individuals

Do you actually pay retail prices? Why?

>>15783882
asking is how children learn, you irascible cad

>>15784039
Children ask their parents questions, adults can look them up on their own to educate themselves rather than get it from a secondary source.

Do you anons thrift your shoes? I found some great deals on ebay, but am not a huge fan of the idea of them being drenched in someone's foot sweat. Also don't know how big of an issue is the foot imprint on the insole.

>>15784028
The goyim don't know about b2b

>>15784095
i think parents are extinct these days all i see are man-babies and whores.

>>15784130
if shoes are disgusting the shoppe won't resell them.
i have found some shoes with the original price tags on them at thrift stores.
of course, you have to check a lot of stores regularly to find anything of value because now reselling is a business for some people and so you have to compete with them combing the stores for anything of value

Planning on getting some shorts made for summer. What fabric do you guys reckon? Cotton or linen?

>>15784341

>>15784341
>>15784343
why do you shave your legs?

>>15784375
Go ask commonsuits.

>>15784541
or you could just have your tailor put in a liner, faggot

>>15784543
Are you retarded? The images are taken from google.

>>15784341
What's this style called?

>>15784720
Gurkha shorts.

>>15784740
Sick. Now off to find a pair that doesn't retail for £200.

>>15784562
i remember receiving this printed catalog in the mail in 1987 or so

i owned a lot of banana republic back in the day

>>15784771
post fits based oldfag

Bamp

>>15784774
here ya go

>>15784787
/tip/ plz

>>15784793
you're telling me italian swimsuits aren't sprezz?
gtfo
more people wear bathing suits on the mediterranean than wear foppish dandy suits

>>15784823
You are trying too hard.

Thoughts on blake stitched footwear? All my shoes are goodyear welted, but Carmina has a blake stitched horsebit loafer I have my eyes on. I have no experience with blake stitch but know it's very common and popular with Italian shoes

>>15785569
Comfy and flexible. Cop if you can afford “disposable” shoes

>>15785713
https://www.belsire.com/en/made-in-italy-mens-shoes/loafers-shoes/edoardo-suede-pepe-7226.html
I'm thinking of getting these ones. 200 bucks for some Italian made loafers is good to me. Think I'll cop

>>15785807
"Italian made" doesn't mean shit. Don't fall for the memes.

Those look okay. Not sure about the suede quality.

>>15784341
>>15784343
adjustors should be off-center. pics you posted look like Boy Scout rejects

>>15785873

>>15784341
>>15784343
These look really bad

>>15785873
Pull your pants up, this is /sprezz/. Wear them shits at your belly button

>>15785892

they already are high waisted retard.

u'r not supossed to give yourself a wedgie with the trousers

>>15785873
>>15785875
CANT SEE SHIT CAPTAIN. Can you try place the mirror further away?

>>15785907
those are mid waisted pants at best anon.

>>15785907
Proper high waisted are designed to be worn high without getting a wedgie because they have an extended fly area. If you're pulling them up and getting a wedgie then they're not actually high waisted.

Off to the beach

>>15786038
What's your workout routine? Once I got closer to 30 I started getting soft and now I desperately need to start lifting again

>>15786039
>what's your routine
go fucking lift and do cardio. You don't need a routine yet, you need to get your fat lazy ass off the couch and start working out now. You can settle into a routine once you actually have goals and motivation to change yourself.
Before you reply do 100 pushups and 200 squats. Doesn't matter how many sets it takes, doesn't matter how many breaks you need. Do them or don't bother replying at all

>>15786199
What is your height and weight? I like your frame and the way clothes hang on your body.

>>15786039
callisthenics and technical diving.

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/rravd

>>15786208
Why did you reply? Did you even read what was written?
I'm not even him, just a /fit/ guy who sees e-whiners like you constantly.
If you want to get in shape, do it. Start right now. Do those pushups and squats. Do them 3 days a week, then 4, then 5. Show that you actually want to do something instead of just talking about it.
No more replies, you have all the advice you need yet I highly doubt you will take it and instead will cope.

>>15786214
NIgga, I'm a different person. I just like the way his clothes hang on his body and am curious what his stats are.

>>15779904
>same color for coat and v neck

>>15786208
Not me, but he’s not wrong either. 185cm 77kg with obnoxiously thin bone structure. All my shit is regular fit tailored down to size.

>>15786214
All stick and no carrot tends to not work for a lot of people. Unfit weak ones also reflexively shy away from that kind of motivation, which is how they ended up like they did in the first place. Getting started can seem insurmountable. Your advice of RIGHT NOW is based as fuck, but phrase it aspirationally rather than disdainfully.

>>15786214
>>15786199
Holy shit, you sound so fucking retarded.

>>15786240
>stop being lazy and work out
>holy shit retarded
fat or skelly? guessing the former

You can't be sprezz if you're fat. Do your reps, anon.

So what's the consensus, sprezz? Are Tyrwhitt suits salvagaeble provided one is on budget or are they no good at all? Pic related 100% wool, half canvas for 150 quid.

>>15786393
I wouldn’t buy anything half canvas. Or with armholes that big.

>>15786393
At that price it will be wearable for the short term. No guarantees after that. Most likely you will encounter problems with quality and longevity and probably fit as well.
At that price you can go for it and see how it turns out.

>>15786399
>>15786400
Needless to say, it's an outlet price down from 400. But fair enough. Where would one go looking for an acceptable suit qualitywise? Any particular brands?

>>15786409
Gather your shekels and go to a tailor

>>15786393
Those cheapish brands are semi-ok. TM Lewin have always been better and their customer service is way better

>>15786412
That's a fair suggestion. Sadly, I live in an overpriced country with unsightly fashion sense.
>>15786413
Is that so? TM Lewin is about half the price of Tyrwhitt. I have shirts and chinos from both, and the Tyrwhitt ones are certainly of better quality.

>>15786418
seems like you're pretty set on what you want so not sure why you're asking here

>>15786430
I'm set on finding out if Tyrwhitt is of decent quality or not, as well as attempting to quantify the diminishing returns of going with more expensive brands or even bespoke. Not everyone's "sprezz" on a day to day basis defaults to wearing a suit, thus spending thousands on bespoke is not a matter of course.

>>15786460
Buy it. Make sure you post fit pics here once it comes in

>>15786460
You can get bespoke casual wear too. Frankly this is what most men should be buying instead of suits if they want to look great.

>>15786199
>>15786214
>tells people they don't need a routine
>then suggests a shitty routine
>>15786240
This dude is right

>>15786558
t. fat

>>15786577
Chad here. Stop being cringe and labouring the point. You did good earlier, don’t take the bait.

>>15786577
You're supposed to tell people to do couch to 5k or SS instead of fucking around doing basically nothing, jackass

>>15786460
Bespoke is in an entirely different ballgame. Everything else is larping. Bespoke or broke.

Any similar stores to Trunk Clothiers? Too poor for bespoke but just need better items.

>imagine pretending to be two people, a chad and someone that works out, while also pretending that the other people are the shitposters, while shitposting
What makes a man so pathetic?

>>15786399
Not everyone needs full canvas. Most MTM brands do half canvas. You're not entering full canvas territory until you go bespoke or very expensive other brands.
Nothing wrong with an affordable, well made half canvas suit

Would pic related be considered too eccentric a color for a more formal occasion, such as job interview?

>>15787178
I don't think so, personally. But if it's a big important job you might just want to go with navy or charcoal just to be safe. Safe the fun colors for when you've been offered the position

>>15787170
It doesn’t last or drape properly anon.

>>15787178
Just don’t wear the waistcoat.

>>15787378
Everything lasts for as long as you take care of it

>>15779904
ayee

Any good menswear brands or tailors in Spain? I'm planning on being there next spring and want to get some stuff while there

This is wool right? I want a light color jacket basically exactly like this and want to get the fabric right.

>>15788178
Another pic. I think it might be a linen blend since it has that texture but not distinct creasing linen gets literally 2 seconds after putting it on

>>15787170
This is absolutely not true. Most MTM brands at least offer full canvas and many include it outright. Even some mid-range RTW comes with full canvas now.

>>15787394
Yes, you have to take care of things. That said there is a huge difference in quality in pretty much everything you can buy. Take care of dollar store T's and socks all you want, they will be ruined long before Darn Tough or a loopwheeled shirt

>>15788178
>>15788292
seems like a linen-cotton blend to me. Musella Dembech btw

>>15788292
Hard to tell from a pic this size of course, but could be linen-silk, drape looks too soft to be cotton to me.

>>15785569
Blake stitching is okay, it can still be repaired like GYW but the cobbler has to have a blaking machine as it can't be done by hand, so it's less common. It's a popular stitch for loafers because it allows the sole to have a narrower profile, basically sitting entirely under the upper as opposed to the unavoidable rim around a welted shoe.

Bad water resistance properties though, avoid stepping in puddles.

>>15786393
Ghastly cut, ghastly color and the other anon is right that Lewin is the better option for suits (Tyrwhitt for shirts, though) in that price range.

>>15788587
I did it, I ordered their blake stitch horsebit loafer. Should be here in about a week so I'll post some pics and my thoughts.
Carmina will resole them for a fee so I can always just send them in when that time comes, so I'm not worried about the sole that much.

For me, it's unstructured seersucker

>>15788292
>>15788178
Looks like mostly linen silk. Maybe some wool in too.

Thoughts on contrast stitching on the lapel? It's barely noticeable at talking distance but looks interesting nonetheless.

What's your opinion on unstructured jackets?

>>15789441
My favorite thing to wear. I love how light and comfortable they are.
Planning on getting at least one or two made this coming spring

>>15789441
What does it refer to? Only the shoulder padding or also the chest piece? No canvas altogether?

>>15789469
Unstructured refers to no canvassing, no padding, and very minimal lining. A lot of linen and cotton summer jackets are made like this. The idea is that it's so light it's like a "second skin"
I have an unstructured jacket from Spier and Mackay that I really enjoy. Planning on getting more

>>15789537
Ah, I see. I have a wool jersey one like that, really great. It still has a really thin piece of felt where the shoulder pad would be, but it's not noticeable unless you really look at how the jacket is constructed.

>>15789441
They are for men who are fit.
Flabby guys need the shoulder pads.

>>15789603
>They are for men who are fit.
i.e. /sprezz/

I know we all vehemently loathe anything with synthetic materials, but what about in cotton garments? 1-2% elastane in cotton trousers or a cotton blazer are so common it's hard to find things without it.
Or should I still be looking for 100% items in that instance?

>>15789680
100% is better
You will learn to feel the difference even when there is only 1-2% in something.

>>15789685
For me the wrist part about anything stretch is that it gets shiny in places of friction, especially around the pocket bags and and places you put your hands. It looks cheap, even if the item is actually really nice
But fuck anything polyester. I can't stand polyester. It makes me sweat if it's directly against my skin and it smells after a short time. You're literally wearing plastic

Just finished a meeting.

>>15789680
100% is better if you can.

>>15789441
Depends on the occasion. Lightly structured is a great compromise, not everyone needs yuge cifonelli pagoda shoulders, but it can add more formality and power to a look.

>>15789781
Pants and some fun lining.

>>15789537
>>15789781
Adding to this: the haircloth of the canvas is actually really lightweight. My jacket is 500g without the lining and 750g with the lining. That doesn't seem like much of a difference, but it feels double as heavy when you wear it.
So, I could totally see a full canvas in an unlined jacket. On the other hand at least one book says that the haircloth is sewn onto the canvas, whereas I use the haircloth as a canvas.
Haircloth is a really great material, by the way. In previous jackets I used a stiff cotton cloth instead. That also creates a nice lapel roll, but with the haircloth the whole front feels very soft, it makes all the difference.

I don't actually like structured jackets. I like mine really light and comfy. I don't like feeling like I'm being hugged

Figured /sprezz/ would enjoy my thrift finds from last weekend

>>15790497
Very impressive! Where'd you find those?

Why do I get the feeling that everyone in these threads actually look like the goons in this picture?

Am I going to look like a jackass if I wear white oxfords to work?

>>15790950
Most likely. Why the fuck would you even own a pair of white oxfords?

>>15790950
lol post pics of the shoes

>>15790950
Yep, I'd only wear them for casual occasions.

>>15790958
That said, I bought a pair of white derbies about 5 years ago and never wore them. They looks great in the store, but it's really hard to combine them with anything.

>tfw winter in full effect here
>currently snowing and everything is wet
>all my shoes have leather soles
I fucked myself by never actually getting any proper loafers or oxfords with a rubber sole. I guess I'm wearing service boots to the office tomorrow

>>15791196
Based. Walk carefully?

>>15791212
No other choice. It's less about the slipping and more than getting leather soles wet combined with the salt is murder on them.

>>15791215
Take your office shoes with you in a bag

>>15791215
Clean them when you get home and you’ll be okay. Boots are ideal for inclement weather like that.

>>15791196
Wax the bottom of the leather shoe. I use snoseal

>>15790497
How high are the arm holes on the kitons?

>>15790911
>The chad arm swing

What core is this?

>>15791298
Based. I'm gonna order some today

>>15789441
only works if you're /fit/

>>15790911
lmao dude on the right has his shit pulled up so high it looks like he has a cameltoe

>>15791855
>only works if you're /fit/
Fashion in general? Yes.

>>15789441
>>15791855
I’ve seen too many guys with no traps or shoulder muscles who think the soft shoulders look good, it doesn’t. Especially if you have a pencil neck

>>15791864
That's what happens when non-high waisted pants are pulled up to high waisted height

>>15789441
makes you either look like a bum or an idiot

>>15790591
local sal val
>>15791301
they're pretty low actually, the guy had a preference for sack suits

>>15791196
go to the cobbler and ask him for a topy

I don't know how they wore leather shoes for the last 200 years here in the uk though

>me uwu

Thoughts? I know it's not strictly spretz, but I think it's spretz adjacent.

Nigger

>>15792677
Fail

>>15792678
Oof

>>15792034
Like Simon Crompton and his stave church shoulder slope

Where can I get good merino wool shirts?

>>15792034
>>15792738
The problem is when the shoulder slopes lower than the tie knot/collar

>>15789441
I like them. Also, I don't see it mentioned in here very often, but fans of unstructured jackets should look into teba jackets (popular in Spain mostly)

>>15793208
Good catch. The cutaway collar makes it worse in this case.

>>15793243
>teba jacket
Very interesting. I may have to get one of these one day

Could someone please post the 28 year old shooer pic? He's shining a shoe and there's shit like "responsible for five species going extinct" "burnt out the lens on a spy satellite once"
I've been bursting out with laughter the entire day just remembering it.

>>15793802

>>15793816
based anon delivered

Received a ton of compliments on this fit today. Black linen pants are an oddity, but they seem to work well.

POST FITS.

>>15794216
>he doesn't know that compliments are people saying wtf

>>15794216
I love this fit but I'm worried you're going to break into song at me. It's very barbers shop quartet

>>15794216
Linen looks bad when it hasn't been ironed

>>15794238
Retard

>>15794231
>2020
>not being your local sartorial god blessing people with your fits daily.

>>15794233
Candy stripe shirts. Casual and classic for summer, but almost impossible to wear with a tie.

>>15794238
It’s linen. Gonna happen regardless. Been worn all day.

>>15784130
I hope none of you actually wear used shoes. Disgusting. What are you, a bum?

>>15794429
shoes are one of the best things to buy used

>>15794469
Along with boxers and socks, am I right?

>>15794469
You savage. A shoe's sole has to adapt to your foot to be comfy. By walking in someone else's shoe, you have to adapt to the previous owner's footprints.

>>15794578
dont care

>>15793075
Suitsupply unironically

Why do you hate them?

>>15794942
Ugly, not Sprezz.

>>15794942
Because they are historically responsible for playing a significant role in the subversion of Western society and its departure from virtue in the realm of culture and in our presiding institutions.

>>15795558
based

>>15794646
>Derby wearers

>>15795558
dilate

>>15794942
Very out of fashion as of now.

>go to my alterations tailor to pick up a suit
>the otherwise grumpy tailor exclaims "ah, it's Mr. Turn ups and high rise!"
uhhh, based?

>>15796267
Based

What is the french version of this called? When i visited France years ago I saw a lot of French guys with this style but not quite (darker, more sober)

>>15796370
French Ivy

>>15794942
SEXcore

>>15794216
>Black linen pants
Absolutely bonkers

for anyone with a pair of loake etons sat around collecting dust due to the horrid heel slip, have you tried wearing them without socks? it might sound ridiculous not to try but i hadnt due to the obvious fagginess of it, and that instantly solved the bulk of the fit issues. without socks it didnt cramp my toes. without socks my foot didnt slip enough for the heel to. its still ever so slightly large, but more like a quarter size too large, and its perfectly workable imo. i spent a bunch on insoles and fittings to try and get these useable and it turned out all i needed to do was be a massive faggot and flaunt my feet.

>>15794216
you always look solid, south africa anon. your heavy fabric waistcoat fits are still my favourite though.

What are some brands that sell proper high waisted cotton trousers in the 200USD/165EUR range that DON'T have elastane in them?
Brands like Pini Parma fit that, but they have 2% stretch which I don't want. Any alternatives?

>>15797888
at that price MTM

>>15779904
aaa

>>15797888
Go MTM. Also try common suits.

>>15797888
Craftsman Clothing if you want a gurkha style

Anyone have experience with an MTM or bespoke coat? Thinking of getting a new one for next year but not sure if it is worth it to go that route for outerwear. If it matters leaning towards a covert or lengthy Polo coat

Guys, please, send me a link on high waisted trousers for <100$, is it possible, to buy them for a cheap price?

>>15799137
learn to thrift my dude, rake in the savings

>>15799137
Highly doubt you're going to find new ones that are worth wearing for that price

>>15779904
Watched Martin Eden last night and immediately came to /fa/ for the first time in years to know how I could achieve these fits. Didn't know this style was already popular. I'd recommend this movie to anyone ITT.

>>15798697
I like the gurkha style closure and high waist, but those look super wide legged. Way too Japanese for me

>>15799387
Ignore that. I checked their instagram and saw some pics and they fit "right". Might give them a try

milsurp pants anon here, back after a bit. finally got around to altering the waist on these things and theyre much more comfortable now, took the opportunity to remove the waist loops too. not bad for £5. gonna need to reinforce the stitching at the seam and make sure the cheap thread i used doesnt snap but ill do that later. will probably do the same with RAF pants too. image doesnt accurately show colours but its the best one ive got. also kinda digging cord shirts with the weather weve had lately even though its a questionable style choice.

more accurate representation of the colours.

>>15799389
The photos they have on their shop make them look wide but they are not. Check the measurements also. Most comfortable pants I own

>>15799708
Needs maybe 3/4 of an inch less length, but looks good!

>>15797888
Scavini

>>15799810
theyre not so bad with boots on, but i am tempted to tweak them over time for practice. slightly fit them a bit so theres less excess leg room too. i like roomy but i dont like wearing something massively baggy. might cuff them if ive the length for it.

>>15799822
I like she's a lot. Probably gonna buy a pair from them soon

>>15799365
Looks dope

>>15799365
I'm gonna watch this today

Carmina horsebit loafers arrived.
Pretty blown away by Carmina. These have the softest leather I've ever seen in a pair of shoes. Next level comfortable.
Gucci looks and quality but less than half the priced and leather lined instead of lined with canvas like Gucci does.

>>15801596
very nice, how much were these? and hows the fit

Well this is fucking gay. You pack of weirdos
Tell me how to dress in order to get a girlfriend you faggots

>>15801679
330USD
Fit is great, for Carmina's Xim last if anyone is considering some of their loafers, convert to your UK size and you should be good

>>15801932
Full Pitti Uomo core

>>15801932
>girlfriend
gay

>>15802077
damn thats pretty cheap

>>15802102
They're blake stitched, that's why. All Carmina's goodyear welted shoes are 475.

>>15802104
blake stitched looks better on loafers desu, slimmer profile

>>15802177
Yeah, goodyear welted on loafers kind of defeats the purpose of loafers as they're a lot stiffer and heavier

Best brands for loafers? Can I get a list to check out?

Shitty photo. About to meet some friends for a late afternoon lunch

>>15803392
shirt looks comf.

>>15802838
I think that American loafers all look like absolute garbage, but that is my taste, so I will not mention any of them:
>carmina
>tods
>jm weston
>carlos santos
>a. mecariello
>meermin (not very comfy)
Basically Spanish, Italian and French shoemakers. The English make lasts that are not very appealing to me, so no G&g or C&j this time.

>>15803392
Trouser texture clashes with the shirt in my opinion, but I have no recommendation how to improve it.

>>15803483
Using the same colours in a light cotton twill or worsted wool would look better, but I don’t think it is too much of an issue on that fit. I don’t like overly dark shirts but the contrasting buttons make it look pretty cool.

>>15801932
A girlfriend? Wrong board anon

Could these trousers work as an odd pair, i.e. not worn with the corresponding suit jacket?

>>15803577
Yeah. Black/charcoal is not brilliant for that as it makes you look like a waiter, but it is doable.

>>15779904
https://discord.com/invite/0912XKf

https://discord.com/invite/22PJccu

>>15802095
>>15803574
What was I even thinking

>>15779904
Ore wa sprezz

>>15803717

you can go full italian-core like our resident south african which can get you attention. Thou I've herd from americans that loafers are for people 50 plus whereass I live in Europe and loafers are not particularly uncommon.

But if you end up dressing like pick related you're probably not gonna be the heart of the party

>>15803776
Depends on your age and your friends I'd say.

>>15803776
The more overdressed without cringe suits you are the more you’re going to segment your girl options -eliminating more and solidifying others that read too much fifty shades. It’s incredibly polarising. Just be okay with girls calling you daddy.

>>15803776
>loafers
A loaf of bread you mean?
>>15803827
Interesting. I never even considered that before
So I am picking up that this general is for dressing like an old man? Wouldn't you end up attracting women with daddy issues? Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Not sure I could even pull that look off

>>15803867
Any menswear is by definition for older men. You need to be fit and assertive. Girls call me daddy in a fucking t-shirt.

>>15797888
Spier and Mackay

>>15803876
Used to be /fit/ but something happened and I stopped everything. Now I am unfit, I should probably get back into training again. Girls were always checking me out and touching me, It was great. But I have zero fashion sense or knowledge or interest in fashion, I just put on jeans and a shirt, or dress like a fucking gopnik on days I really could not give a shit. Only got 1 pair of shoes, work boots. I figure I need to dress better but I don't want to dress like some over expressive faggot because I never will have any idea how to do that right and I would feel like a clown desu

Does it really matter as long as you don't dress awful?

>>15803776
>I've herd from americans that loafers are for people 50 plus
Kek. I wear loafers every day as an American and I'm 30. I also dress pretty sprezzy most days and no one has ever said anything. High waisted trousers, tucked in shirt, loafers and a sport coat.
No one cares what people wear anymore, just wear what makes you happy

>>15803867
>So I am picking up that this general is for dressing like an old man?
Nope, that's the /trad/ivy/prep/ threads. That's their goal in their fits.
We just like dressing well in good pieces, appreciating craftsmanship, quality and fit.

>>15804006
>No one cares what people wear anymore, just wear what makes you happy
This. People usually don't bat an eye out in public however it's different with friends who will either like it, or dislike it, with them usually just shutting up in the end, as long as you're confident.

>>15804018
I should have clarified: no one cares what a stranger wears anymore. Literally no one will care if you wear a three piece suit to go grocery shopping because no one cares about anyone but themselves. If you don't affect them, they don't care.
Like you said, it's close friends that care at first, but literally just say "I enjoy dressing like this" and that all stops real quick. Or just say "fuck friends" and go full sprezz lone wolf

>>15804012
>We just like dressing well in good pieces, appreciating craftsmanship, quality and fit
But it all looks like shit
I think I'll just fuck off back to my regular boards, I will never understand fashion

>>15804066
Taste is subjective. Dress how you want

>>15804066
Try to find something that fits you well and is made to last a long time.

>>15804066
Gay retard

>>15804082
>gay
I feel pretty gay for posting here not gonna lie
Wanna play dress up and suck eachothers dicks? omg I love your shoes <3

>>15804106
Yes please but it doesn't change the fact that you're a retard

>>15804118
Having consensual sex with a retard makes you a retard.

>>15804126
I'm just really craving cock rn, silly! Now post legs lol

>>15803577
Yes. White shirt looks like a waiter, but striped, light blue (etc) is fine. Also, there are some unexpected combinations.

>>15804066

if you don't think a pair quality oxfords like those from edward green or from craftsmen like Yohei Fukuda are beautifull then you legit don't know anything about clothes or art. And I fail to see why anyone should pay attention to what you think looks good or not. You are basically the person who says that rap music is better than the works of Bach.

Bruce Boyer said it best: Real luxury is the comprehension of quality

>>15804265
step on my balls with those spade soles daddy

>>15804265
Based Bach poster

>>15804265
>You are basically the person who says that rap music is better than the works of Bach
No I'm the person who says those shoes look fucking gay and make you look like an effeminate sissy and the only good music is traditional music, the rest is awful, especially classical

>>15804342
Cloths are shit. I wish We could just run about naked instead sometimes. The simpler and more practical the better.

>>15804342
>the rest is awful, especially classical
Wrong

>>15804380
Well ok I'm exaggerating. But classical hardly ever good at all
Rap is not even music

>>15804391
What do you not like about classical?

>>15804398
Most of it is all over the place, too scattered and lacks consistency. One minute it's one place and then the next it's completely gone away somewhere else and ruins what had been building up. The complete opposite would be like Georgian chants and I like that a lot, it is much more beautiful and more meaning behind it. The only good classical music is when it has parts that sounds somewhat like airs and it doesn't jump too much but that's hard to find

>>15804257
This one is a lot better

>>15803577
Absolutely. Wear them with any color you like.

>>15803392
I feel like the upper and lower portions of the fit are not integrated enough when it's only a shirt and trousers and they contrast that much. I think there should either be less contrast, or a third piece which ties them together.

>>15803392
Sauce on the trousers. I like em'!

Maybe wear em' with a white collarless shirt...

unpopular opinion:
this shit is sexcore with extra steps

>>15804461
No one cares

>>15804461
Sexcore is kind of based tho

>>15804429
Classic music is almost never like that, though. I can only think of literal meme music from oppenheimer (shit composer btw) or pieces from Saint Saëns that he was literally ashamed to publish alive.
By classical I assume you mean mid 1800s to early 1900s (which is technically romance, but that is what people generally understand as classic), because if you look at baroque it is even more formulaic (and thus, having complex transitions between phases) than classical. The only moment I can think that such volatility existed would be in the era of chromaticism with composers like Rimsy-Korsakov, but this was because they were focused on exploring an element of music that was virtually untouched ever since Bach.
>gregorian chants
Literally a music style stuck in the past for the last 500 years. Baroque evolved from that by adding elements from nature and musical innovations and that is very noticeable in some of Bach’s more underground and, in my opinion, worse, works.

>>15804461
Based.

>>15804499
The guy doesnt like classical because of movements, I'm guessing.

>>15804502
But you can just listen to a single movement at a time. It is how they are performed most of the times, anyway.

>>15804499
Fag

>>15803776
That is a boring fit even for trad standards. Low-rise, no interesting materials, safe colour combination, shitty tie, black socks, Mormon skin, lame collar.

>>15804505
I know but I'm not him

>>15804513
Did your priest abuse you as a child? I am very sorry. Happened to some people from /tip/ and they turned out homossexual, so you may want to consider that option if you feel repressed for some reason.
>>15804521
I know, I’m just pointing out that it makes no sense.

>>15804499
It often is. Notes seem way to out of place often too. But I have no idea what you are talking about because I could never get into it to be so interested
>Literally a music style stuck in the past for the last 500 years
>implying that's a bad thing

>>15804619
NEW THREAD

Please finish up whatever off-topic shitposting you two faggots are doing doing in this thread before migrating, please and thank you

>>15803776
Basic beyond belief, yet you’ll mog most men here on 4chan.

>>15784095
Other way around
Children have access to google, and think they know it all.
Adults both look it up and talk to people, both to socialize and have different perspectives.
Grow up, manchild.