/fa/ - Fashion

>>15762022
It's a bomber jacket, just go to a military surplus store.

Called a nigger loafer.

>>15762022
Literally a Alpha Industries black bomber loose fit

>>15762022
I had schott a jacket just like that, got it for 10€ I think

>>15762038
I didn't realize that it's a bomber jacket with a hoodie underneath.

Bumping because he is peak nazicore

>>15762767
>peak nazicore
>pretending to be in the military

>>15762775
It looks cool

>>15762775
>military
nice joke we are militacore now

sigh
white race is doomed. niggers are EVERYWHERE
this used to be modeled by a non-nigger

>>15762022
Raf Simons

>>15762022
Helmut Lang

skinhead thread?
Not a fan of the combat 88 look, hoodies under bomber look gay

>>15763765

>>15763770

>>15762022
Where to cop wombat hoodie?

>>15763772

>>15763827

>>15763840

>>15763871
some og '68 skins

oh jeeth

based skinhead poster.
You can be not racist but if you dress like a skinhead foreigners look at you funny. And also thugs are kind of afraid to fuck with you, would recommend 10/10

The qt at work said "you're balding on the top too jeez", now my self esteem has plummeted and can't decide if I wanna buzz it, don't want people to think I'm having a mental breakdown or be shocked like wow he has no hair now. I'm probably overthinking it all

>>15764354
1 all over and do roids. It's the only way. Also post hairline, I'm a hairdresser

>>15764189
Elaborate

>>15763880
C18 Skinhead celebrating after beating a journalist

>>15762022
Now I wanna know what gloves those are.

>>15762022
>I don't care about the nazism.
You don't fool anyone you raiding faggot

>>15764499
Can you link me to the article?

>>15763880
i really like the sherling skinhead look. It dates back to the original skins (not that that matters), but its a slicker look than just bombers and camies

>>15764570
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/dover-protest-it-was-like-horror-film-says-man-who-saw-nazis-paint-swastikas-blood-1541218

>>15764598
another example

>>15764602
one last example

>>15764605
The mac coat was considered an iconic skinhead gear before the flight caught on, but both were around since the mods. Really there's a more variety with tops than pants, but shirts were pretty limited

>>15764612
This is the only other example i can find though

>>15764637

>>15764643

>>15764645

>>15764648
another obscure piece of gear, the suit jacket

>>15764650
skinhead girls

>>15764659
if you guys got any questions or wanna see any shit ask, I know a decent amount about the clothing items and regional varieties, little history

No leftypol you aren't radicalizing people to become Nazis this way either.

>>15764354
A little rude of her.
Also balding on top too? Like what else is wrong with you?

>>15764374
Not him, but say I want a longer "buzzcut" like some of these lads >>15763880
Would throwing on a #8 guard and having it closed all the way at the very bottom, andtapering it to open all the way at the very top look good?
I want it that long ecause I have that dark blonde hair where there's a high density of it, but its super fine and super straight, so it sticks straight up, and doesn't lay down til it's at least an inch long.

>>15764659
Always thought skin girls woulda looked better if they just did a 1.5-2.5 inch "pixie" sort buzz all over, or a straight up textured shag, rather than chelseas.

>>15764685
Personally I like the Chelsea cuts where it's just the bangs, let me find a kid real quick

>>15764706
>>15764685
>kid
Pic
Anyways, og skinhead girls are super underrated. Pic related, on the left

>>15764711
Nice. Also I think the modern Shag/Mullet hybrid that's been popular the past 2 years is the sort've more flattering version of the cut all the other girls have.

>>15764661
Based strawman

>>15764749
You don't know what that means.

>>15764660

>>15764809
guy on the left's wearing a varsity/monkey jacket, popular around 78-80 with skins in the ska scene. Sort of an early revival piece, don't see it on mainline 80s skinheads. Like early Madness fan stuff

>>15764809

>>15764815

>>15764817
Im into the fucking oldschool face tats, man

>>15764820

>>15764815
>shirt says skinheads are the master race
holy kek

>>15764820
Same
I also love that these goons shaved hard parts into their #1 buzzcuts.

>>15764824
Same, no clue how to pull it off these days

>>15764829

>>15764855

>>15764829
I honestly don't think it'd be do hard. It's not entirely different than "hipster" or "alt" fashion that's been popularized in the past years. I think the key is taking elements of it, the general silhouette, etc., and not go full on suspenders.
I made a grid here. I think you can wear this, or something similar (nevermind the specific brands), and it'd look totally normal if you did it right. Notice I avoided blue jeans, and bleachers, and suspenders, and chose a fabric bomber instead of nylon military one. etc.

>>15764660
Just write.

>>15764680
Hope this thread lives long enough for hairdresser anon to answer my question.

>>15764354
Anti-depression paste here: https://pastebin.com/XnAyESNt

Bump

>>15764824
how do you do it ? by yourself especially, it looks based

>>15764829
I just realized the group Madness were skins. Funny.

>>15764660
just write more bro, about anything. I'm loving these lil insights. Any other quirky items people might not immediately associate with the skins mov't?

>>15765414
you're saying they were natsoc?
barson and foreman are jewish names.

>>15765446
>>15765414
suggs the madness front guy was friends and lived with the lead singer from Skrewdriver

>>15762022
why are military pattern clothes so lame and unneffay?

OP this guy doesnt look particularly good if youre taking him as an example there are millions of other fits you can copy just search streetwear on pinterest

>>15764959
honestly bleachers are still popular but only in the fucking hood. I see at least seven pairs a day around town, but its always either shitty fitting jeans or those awful biker jeans

>>15764973
>>15765434
There was never a sneaker that was associated with Skinheads until the samba in 85, but before that a go to for skins was the dunlop green flash trainer. They were worn since the start in 1968. One crew's fit was described, Donkey jackets, wite T shirt, pull over jumper, vietnam surplus pants, and the trainers. Crazy different look from what it evolved into, but you had all the pieces staying in circulation, especially the pants which became a staple

>>15765471
>why are military pattern clothes so lame and unneffay?
because they are meant to blend into the background; they are literally printed with camouflage.

>>15764869
Leather and collarless button downs were more popular back in the late 60s early 70s. Leather was useful because it would get attention from the rockers that were still around.

>>15765414
>>15765446
There's infinite resources available to learn that skinhead culture wasn't intrinsically tied to racism, and rather right wing politics and racism infiltrated the subculture over time. Along the way you get all sorts of interesting subtleties like dudes whose politics were essentially
>Ye I'm a nationalist, and 'ate pakis, but I like me black friends. They hate pakis too.
Nazis that listened to aka, etc.
>>15765461
Even Skrewdriver was not explicitly racist at first. Infact, everyone but that singer there quit after he came out as a straight up racist. He got a whole new backing band.

>>15765215
Must be a youtube tutorial I'm sure.

>>15765513
I mean yeah, exactly why they're no longer fashionable. And one of skinheads main concerns was to be hard-fashionable.

>>15765804
>Nazis that listened to ska*

>>15764959
I gave it a shot, tried to do my version of 'updated skinhead'

>>15765804
Theres a nice scene in the Madness movie that shows some early revival skins, same ones that the recent shit movie Farming is supposed to be about. https://youtu.be/cwWvKnU9zCE

>>15765804
Theres a scene in the madness movie with some early revival skins. Perfer the working class style of skins to the Harrington/ben sherman/white chinos skins. https://youtu.be/cwWvKnU9zCE?t=2920

>>15765804
Fuckin A! I wrote this all out and posted it, and it just didn't post?
Anyway I decided to keep writing a bit more.
Skinhead style came about in the 60s as a combination of elements from British Mod style, American Ivy League (which had just made it's way across the pond, and Jamaican immigrant "Rudeboy" style. The hard-part in the short buzzcuts, actually comes from emulating the hairstyles of Soul, R+B, and Reggae musicians of the 1960s. Also the term "skinhead" wasn't used by them originally, but was rather a satirical name donned on them by others. That's how most subcultures get their names though. The shaved head, and other utilitarian aspects such as work boots and jeans, likely came about as a response to what working class skinheads viewed as the middle class privilege of the British Hippies. By the time the hippie thing made it to England, it had lost most of it's dirty homeless weirdo elements, and became a gaudy fashion and drug culture for middle class kids and suburbanites.
Another bit about the boots, remember all work boots back then essentially had that same vintage workboot design. Doc martens probably fell into popularity because they were pretty much the only work boots that had modern "comfiness" technology of any sort.
The only politics involved at this point was a sense of working-class unity. Not even in a labor union sort of way, but in a "We're all the poor kids that live in the projects." sort of way. This is how the combination of white British culture and Jamaican immigrant culture came about in the first place.

>>15765947
I think its important to put the first wave in context, makes it make a lot more sense. Skinheads came out of the backdrop of swinging london, people wearing paisley frockcoats and ascots with long bowl cuts and tight trousers. The image of a gang of kids in scuffed jeans and undershirts marching in boots that made them 3 inches taller would make a serious impression among the crowd

>>15765947
The mid 70s was a bit of an awkward phase for skinhead. A lot of the style's staples fell to the backdrop, people grew out their hair, and even wore flares. Much of the culture at this time, revolved around a staple of the British working-class; going to football matches, drinking, and starting fights.
This is also when the National Front began using skinhead subculture to recruit young people, and indoctrinating them with the racist views/right-wing politics. They saw a bunch of angry young kids, starting violence at football matches, and thought they seemed promising. They would go to football matches and hand out literature, and invite these kids to rallies they were holding in the countryside.
Musically, skinheads got really associated with football chants, and glam rock (like Slade nd Mott the Hoople), as well as basically whatever was in the pops at the time. Anything that mentioned violence was celebrating, like say Elton John's "Saturday Night's Alright for Fighting"

>>15765978
It’s a shitty scan but this is what hardline skins ended up looking like by the late 70s. Like a disco version of skins, with flairs, ultra high waisted pants, long gaudy coats, and huge collars. But at the same time, like you said, the vast majority went the way of suedes, with offshoots here and there like the soul scene and smoothies. The terraces were the only places you’d see docs and a bomber still.

>>15765960
>>15766014
Based, thanks for posting with me. I actually kinda like the coats of the 70s. Flares are godawful though. I'm gonna eat lunch and keep posting a bit about the 2-tone and Oi! revivals of the 80s, the riots, the influence back across the pond on American Hardcore anti-fashion, and then through the 90s and 2000s.

>>15765978
The late 70s-early 80s saw another wave of skinhead revival through Punk music, by way of it giving birth to the sub genres of Two-Tone and Oi!
The silhouette of the style was much closer to original 60s skinheads (hair was shorter again, pants were straight leg again), but the clothes became more casual overall. Button up shirts, slacks, and dress coats mostly disappeared. Denim jeans became ubiquitous, boots became taller, more akin to combat boots than work boots. Bomber jackets and other military clothing were introduced to the style, as well as bleach splattered denim, a deliberate reference to camouflage patterns. T-shirts, especially band t-shirts became popular skinhead wear. Even knit wool sweaters, one of the "dressier" carry overs, sort've became unkempt and thrift-core looking. Tattoos also became very popular in this era of skinhead, especially in places that weren't previously acceptable in western society, such as the hands and the face. This is likely a byproduct of the skinhead attitude of being very brash about everything.
Two-Tone was an evolution of ska music, combined with the new energy of punk. The name two-tone is literally symbolic of the direct combination of white and black cultures. Many young skinheads in this scene viewed themselves as the direct inheritors of the original culture. Ironically enough this scene was just as inundated with right wing and racist skinheads as Oi!. This is where you'd find the sort've people sieg-heiling at their favorite two-tone bands (that had black members), and holding mentalities like "I 'ate pakis, but me black mates are alright"
Oi! music was a skinhead response to the "artiness" of 1st wave punk rock. Reducing it down to a simple aggressive rock sound, found more accessible by the working class. Most of the original Oi! bands were also apolitical, but found themselves with masses of far-right fans fueled by their aggressive music.

>>15766169
A lot of people, in retrospect, actually blame British mainstream media for sensationalizing the racism in skinhead subculture, which actually attracted more racist people to become a part of the subculture, making the situation worse.
Bands in the two-tone scene, like the Specials, essentially stopped playing shows, because they didn't want to participate in the racism and violence that their music had become a backdrop for.
Sham 69, one of the first Oi! bands, played the Rock Against racism concert, specifically to distance themselves from the racist elements, and attempt to reclaim the music and culture. In response, a bunch of far-right skinhead fans caused a huge ruckus, and Sham 69 actually stopped playing live to spite them.
Shortly after, a large Oi! show featuring many of the genres top bands was scheduled to take place in the predominantly south-asian neighborhood of Southhall. The night turned into a riot however, because the south-asian residents, mistakenly thought this event was a nazi skinhead rally, probably because the sensationalizing by the mainstream media.
Interestingly enough, when the mainstream media reported on this event, they made it seem like the skinheads started the riot.
This was essentially the nail in the coffin for most of the 1st wave Oi! bands, who stopped playing after this event.
In response, many of the first RAC Oi! bands, like Skrewdriver cropped up, embracing the new controversial image of the skinhead culture.

>>15766213
While all this was going on in England, both the 1st wave of Oi! music, and elements from the 80s version of skinhead style, found it's way across the pond, and found favor with the American Hardcore youth culture. Like Oi! music, American Hardcore was a stripped down response to the artiness of 1st wave punk, and even blended with Oi! with bands like Agnostic Front. In their own way, they responded to the gaudy fashions of 1st wave punk with a sort've thriftcore anti-fashion. There's a kinship here. This response to the gaudier side of punk mirrors the original skinhead response to the 60s hippie fashion. Elements of 80s skinhead style, specifically shaved heads, and boots, blended with the Hardcore Anti-Fashion, creating one of my personal favorite iterations of the style, which would inform the way I dressed, myself, during the punk and hardcore revival of the mid 2000s. More on that, and the period in between later today.

>>15764809
wait a second, i thought...

>>15766261
How do you think someone dresses like a skin now? Are there any around

>>15766301
Anyone involved in the subculture is either totally LARPing like the past, or is some modern variant of that hardcore "anti-fashion", I'll get more into it, but essentially picture a non feminized version of 2010's hipster, but with mostly darker color palettes, and short cropped hair/clean shaven face. Also the latter group mostly self identifies with punk and hardcore, rather than full on claiming "Skinhead".
Some possible modern alternatives were offered up here
>>15764959
>>15765877

>>15766290
Nazis infected the skinhead movement, not the other way around.

>>15762775
>>15763299
Military LARPing aka stolen valour.

>>15763880
Those aren't skins, those are mods.

bumping an actually good thread

>>15762980
It’s not, your just boring

>>15766261
The late 80s-early 2000s saw a further fracturing of the subculture.
In the late 80s, in America, 2nd wave hardcore bands started including far-right influences and combining hardcore with RAC Oi! the same way bands like Agnostic Front had combined hardcore with non-racist Oi!. Bands of this type were bands like YDL.
Other 2nd wave hardcore bands further distanced themselves from the skinhead aesthetic, removing almost everything except the short cropped hair. The punkier edge of the hardcore spectrum, became even punkier, and further embraced outlandish aesthetics that had been worn my fans of genres like D-Beat in Europe.
This sub cultural void around Skinhead, left it open to be essentially totally coopted by Neo-Nazis
Around this time S.H.A.R.P. or Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice came into existence, as a direct response to the rising association of skinhead with racism. Basically a hardline attempt to take back the look and the name. These organizations really only existed in Major cities in the UK and US (London, New York), and didn't stop the racist skinhead culture from proliferating suburban and rural areas, where it became further obscured, and started embracing things like heavy metal.
The 90s saw a rise in violent clashes between SHARPs and Nazi Skins in many major cities, and the mainstream media consistently misreported these events as "Clashes within the Skinhead hate group" This both helped solidify skinheads' negative public image, as well as draw more people to the racist skinhead cause. Making the problem worse, yet again.
By the late 90s and early 2000s big media further immortalized the negative and racist caricature of Skinhead, by sensationalizing it in movies like American History X and The Believer.

>>15766600
The mid-late 2000s saw a big revival in Hardcore and Punk, and with it a big revival of Punk and Skinhead fashion styles. I was never really sure what caused this. Maybe "underground music" had been pretty successful coming through the 90s, and it was logical for it to circle back to it's roots after it's time in the commercial spotlight had ended. I don't know. These subcultures also got a pretty good amount of retrospective spotlight through a number of music documentaries that came out around this time. There were also films like This is England (pic related), Shane Meadow's semi auto-biographical film about growing up in the subculture in the early 80s. It actually does a good job at portraying both sides of what was going on with the subculture, so it's the one skinhead film I ever go out of my way to recommend.
I'm super thankful to this era, because it gave me the opportunity to be a part of things like subcultures and music scenes at exactly the right time in my life. That being said, a lot of the fashion was bordering on LARP throwback costumes. I was first attracted to the skinhead style because it was pretty utilitarian compared to the Casualties esque look of many of my friends. Even so, I still always leaned more towards dressing like the asian kid in this photo >>15766261
Than going full boots n braces, or claiming that I was a 'Skinhead".
Also many new young SHARPs, Hardcore Kids, and Punks took it upon themselves to violently expel Nazi Skins from any punk shows, and most places around their cities in general.
By the end of the 2000s and early 2010s, most other people in the punk scene toned down their style and started dressing more like that as well.

>>15766628
>>15766628
2010s-now
Coming into the early 2010s, the hipster and alt fashions that became popular were actually heavily influenced by punk-adjacent style, and I actually think there was a lot of overlap with trad skin style in general.
Grandpa sweaters and plaid shirts from the thrift store, straight and slim fit pants, Low-profile sneakers like Vans authentic actually have a pretty similar silhouette to loafers. Doc Martens even became popular again. In a lot of cases, you would've been just a short haircut away from looking like a skinhead.
Then more recently, in the last few years of the 2010s, we had fashion designers openly flirt with the aesthetic again, and culture publications finally come out and admit "Ok it wasn't a nazi thing all along and it looks pretty cool." (pic related is Yuri Pleskun for Bowen '17)
The flirtation didn't seem to last too long. I tend to think there's a bit of an active conspiracy against it. It's too accessible to the every man, and puts a bunch of grooming and maintenance industries in jeopardy.
However, we just saw this past spring, that when people didn't have access to their barbers, they defaulted to buzzcuts. i don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that we'll see a repeat phenomenon this year, or simply a bunch of people who stick with it from then.
I don't know what this means for skinhead style in general, but I sort've consider skinhead style simply as a short-haired, hard, utilitarian version, of whatever is currently stylish and fashionable, which makes me optimistic that it can keep reinventing itself into the future.

>>15766463
those are skins, what the hell

>>15765877
Hey anyone know where I can find the black coat? Its a Gloverall x Nicholson hooded overcoat, it used to be on their website for like 500 bucks, but now they're sold out. Any clue?

Here's a rare skinhead piece, the dunlop green flash trainer. It was worn all the way back in 68 with American army green trousers, white t shirt, pull over jumper (solid color), and donkey jackets by the skins around kilburn. Its a unique alternative skin look out of the early days, back when crews organized themselves with a more uniform look between the lads. Skinheads pretty much exclusively wear leather footwear, be it boots, sambas, loafers, brogues, ect. so its unusual to see canvas to say the least. Leather trainer's from the mod days were also popular (incidentally mods were the first subculture to wear sambas), so it could have been a way to separate themselves.

>>15767353

>>15767388

>>15767394
some NY skins like anon was talking about above

>>15767388
Fucking love this one. I want more skinheads doing things like drinking with nuns, or anything you'd consider comical to see them doing.

Bump

>>15764959
Thin bombers look like shit

>>15768657
Eh, just first non nylon one I found.

>>15768922
Kinda like the vibrant 80s vibe in this. What length you think the 2 guys in green have? I want a longer crop like that.

>>15768939
looks like a two. Its weird that the guy on the right is wearing pleats, never seen that before

>>15768961
No way, m80, a #2 is almost transparent, that looks longer than a #4 to be honest.
That is very interest, usually skinhead chinos were sta-press, which are much less pleated. But it just goes to show that they were also just kids trying to dress a way and made do with what they had rather always having a spot on uniform.

>>15762022
Just a Bomber Jacket.
keeps you warm when you fear hypothermia around your shaved-ass head.

>>15764354
I know im days late posting the imagr but this what I'm dealing with on the front last week 2 people have commented on how bad it has gotten, the back is looking thin too

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>>15769137
I mean noone will think you're going crazy if you shave. It's time, dude. But, fucking rude that people comment to you about it? Are you like a doormat? or do people perceive you as such? Start lifting.

>>15769137
Also why is your skin so sick and clammy looking? I mean I'm a nord phenotype too, but my skin doesn't look like I have the flu. You fucking eating right and shit?

>>15769137
Looks really bad anon. Sorry that you look like that.

>>15769147
Nah stopped going gym and been eating pure junk for a couple months it's been a tough month lol

>>15769161
Fuck that's a big part of your problem, honestly, I can tell you're not healthy from the picture. Get back to working out at least a bit at first, and start eating at least halfway healthy again.
As for the hair, if you're not sure on the length, just start at a #4, then work your way down to a #3,#2,#1, and finally no guard but with the taper lever opened all the way, before you do a full on no guard. Even if you decide to no guard, I wouldn't razor shave it afterwards. everyone knows you shaved, cus you're balding, no point in hiding the stubble, and I think razor shaved looks autistic on anyone under 50. you can even try some things along the way like giving yourself a subtle taper. Like using the same guard, but having the taper level open all the way on the top of your head, and closed all the way around the bottom.

Sharps are ghey

>>15769332
Right on! Let's go listen to Disturbed, brother!

>>15769332
Sharps are just as racist as neonazis

brown is an underrated color in these fits

>>15769963
fuck it im shaving my head tonight

>>15769963
if its brown
flush it down
if its yellow
let it mellow

>>15769963
It's true, a nice brown wool sweater or blazer is great with the style

>>15770021
Oi! Skin'ead!

>>15762022
it's a bomber jacket wtf

>>15762022
there are people who've never seen/heard of a bomber jacket?

>>15770105
>>15770106
We've established that. This has become a Skinhead fashion and culture thread. Please Skinhead post.

>>15770116
Ohhhhh SKINHEAD posts ok i gets it

>>15770141
WOW. That's massive. I'm probably half that size lol. It looks fucken' tasty too.

>>15769137
thats a shave 100%

>>15762022
>>15762108
Looks like a mechanic jacket with a hoodie under it to me desu

i like bleachers

>>15771778
They look a bit baggy, huh?.
I think they can be great if you're wearing the whole style differently. But with docs, and suspenders, it's a bit spot on.

>>15770106
I thought the hoodie underneath the bomber jacket was part of the bomber jacket.

>>15771931
alpha makes bombers like that, with a hood. THere's also some nasty terrace bombers with hoods and goggles

>>15772097
I've seen these jackets before, they're the ones hooligans wear to football matches. Not sure if they are sold in America though.

>>15772104
CP Company is sold worldwide tho. Some fast fashion brands can be seen releasing a rip-off here and there once in a while

>>15772104
never liked hooligan

>>15772118
Are all CP Company jackets so expensive?

Im want more modern reinterpretations than just dumping images

>>15772467
coming right along sir, here's me last year

>>15772467
and here's my pal on a tree

>>15772467

>>15772831
Oh hey I like this outfit

>>15766460
Yeah stolen valour, does uniforms definitely look like they are part of the armed forces of a nation. baka

>>15766460
works best with only one military piece at a time anyway

>>15772828
>>15772830
>>15772831
Holy shit a skinbyrd on /fa/
You both look smart, also really like th ebomber with a collar, as well as your jacket, which kinda portrays the general silhouette of a harrington, but, isn't one.

>>15772831
>>15772830
The guy looks pretty recognizably skin w/o going full larp, which is sick. Youre fits good, what jumper is that in the last pic?

>>15762022
This guy looks like he takes dicks up his ass LMAO

>>15773887
youre projecting hard

>>15772830
>pal

F

>>15773560
my jumper? pierre cardin with faux shirt collar, from sports direct mens section

>>15773560
forgot to add, the patch is not part of it but sewn onto it. later it ended up on my jacket.

>>15773887
and what are you? a homophobe?

>>15762022
Yang Jacket

Nelson Yang is cringe and has shitty body

Bumping for Made In Britain. Pretty interesting film

>>15775225
Is this the movie where the really big giant White guy and the Black Neo Nazi Guy get really high together and then get a little bit gay(I think thats what happened) then the Giant White Guy has Homorage and crushes the black guys skull?

>>15775230
No that's This is England. That scene was hilarious

" She wott? Biscuitss huh?? Fucking nigger"

>>15775240
Such a wild movie. I might give it a rewatch now.

>>15766457
Ohhh noo!! Blue color masculine men don't subscribe to my bougie onions theories! WHAT??? THEY'RE ALL BECOMING NAZIS WHEN WE REPLACE THEM WITH CHEAP IMPORTED LABOR? AHHHHHHHHH

Punks not red!

>>15775475

>>15774905

>>15775471
idk man this stuff is pretty well documented

>>15775471
You dumb cunt. In this specific context, it doesn't matter if the anti-immigration sentiments of the working class are valid or not, because it doesn't change the origin story of skinhead culture and fashion, which is what the post you're replying to is referencing.

>>15775477

>>15777278
lol

NY sunset skins: couple jews and couple mulattos

>>15775806
It may have it's origins in one place but things evolve, I think we can agree on that. Overall I think the whole "ur nut a reel skin/ punk/ whatever" thing is dumb anyway do whatever and if no one is like you then you get to be a trend setter. That's my plan

>>15777394
I mean yeah ultimately things do evolve, I mean I've always been a punker that didn't really dress punk. All that shit doesn't ultimately matter.
But, that person was being a big fag and pulling out their bullshit that people are le soi and reddit because they're peripherally aware that original skinheads weren't nazis. Also fucking lmao at the fact they had to mention the phrase "masculine blue collar men". Might as well have posted the YMCA video.

>>15767402
cbgb,i wonder who was playing that night

>>15772097
holy shit these are dope.
w2c

>>15777892
I mean there was like what five hardcore bands in the early 80s

>>15777918
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mens-Location-Galactic-Airmans-Waterproof-Goggle-Jacket-Military-Hooded-Coat-/261300598838

>>15778472
cheers

>>15766463
They're more like suedes. They definitely aren't mods. You people don't know shit about this stuff.

>>15778521
Nawh suede comes five years on. Mod/bovver/peanut/skinhead was used interchangeably in 68 69 79. But as we would class em now they're definitely skins. Hallmarks like levi patch sewn on the front, top button buttoned, boots, ect. All staples of the skin look. That's just how long they wore their hair. Closer to smoothie/hairy than suede

>>15775471
>filtered
do more lerking and less seething

>>15766290
Originally Skinhead subculture wasn’t racist, a lot of the OG ones had black skinheads in there cliques, listened to ska, two tone, reggae etc. After Neo-Nazis hijacked the scene they pretty much disappeared.

I was thinking why its hard to do a modern skinhead look without standing out much. I realized thats because theres not much to standout from. There's not really many codified looks outside of specific regions like Montana and stuff, and even then its just variations on a theme, a theme thats already very casual and very modular. The only way to stand out I see is either have a crew of skinned head boys to hang w or dress like a mainline, in-the-news type skin, bomber bracers docs.

>>15777358
They look like queers.

>>15773887
the british just look like that

>>15762022
do you guys think bombers fit into the techwear aesthetic ?

>>15764354
get a goatee, faggot

>>15762022
why is he wearing a prayer shawl

>>15779796
Plenty of skinheads in Montana, just not the ones you would want to go to a bonfire with.

Ben Kadow does this look justice with the modern leisure sport of boardskating

>>15785294

>>15785287
They don't burn things in Montana?
What do y'all do for fun then?

Every time I have flirted with the skin look I felt like I was hitting a brick wall in a week. There are some great photos itt but the style is pretty uniformed to the max with out too much room for personal style. And with out a large gang of skins to run around town with it’s just not practical as a lot of people end up not liking you on first glance.

Still some cool inspo and skin history posted.

>>15785318
>a large gang of skins to run around town

>>15785334
Well lol, if you want to be labeled a “rAcIsT” behind your back by all means go down that road of isolation fren

>>15762108
>>15762108
>>15762767
This. Based bomber with hoodie and camo joggers.

>>15785294
>>15785305
I agree. The vibe is there.

>>15763840
>>15767611
>straight-laced yellows
poor fucks
if only they knew more than half a century into the future dumbass neonazis who willingly forgot history would be using them as inspo for their larp

>>15785318
yeah the reality is that this look is seriously looked down on. If you're a white man wearing camo pants, a hoodie, and a bomber/leather jacket everyone is going to assume you're some kindof criminal/racist/white trash. You can only pull this look off if you're tough enough and don't care or need to care about social standings.

>>15762775
>>15766460

>Surplus KL BDU pants

Larping as an army dump shopper, sure..

w2c an oversized bomber? I have a long torso so I wear really long fitting t-shirts and I love the bomber aesthetic but my current one is the more traditional at the hip style.
Looking for more in the 73.5/76 cm or 29 - 30 inch range

>>15765877
what model are those adidas?

i'm a girl and I only wear boots. my zipper on these broke and I want to get a new pair but don't really want to repurchase these bc they've become very popular recently. any boot/platform boot recs for women? thanks.

>>15788115
they're german sambas

>>15787155
alpha sells oversized bombers, at least they used to

>>15786975
yellow was just the laces that came with docs, meant to match the yellow stitching. lace colours were just meant to match footy

>>15785318
yeah the main problem is not having a crew. The look isnt that good in isolation, and theres no better accessory than fucking slick ass lads

>>15775477
I cant pull off the hando look

>>15788572
I like the dude on the far left. He rides that line.
His jacket from what I can tell, isn't a skinhead uniform jacket, but it's got generally the right shape. His jeans are dark instead of light or bleached. The only reason you can tell he's a skinhead is because buzzcuts weren't really mainstream until the 90s.
You can totally pull a look like that off.

>>15788584
The jacket is way too big on you.
Better for function, but not for the look.
Also why the fuck would skinheads in Australia ever need a crombie coat?

>>15788666
>trips of truth

>>15788662
looks like it has breast pockets, buttons, could possibly be leather levi trucker. they were popular at the time, youre right, not really a skinhead thing, but the profile still fits

ignore the pockets, it wouldnt have had those back then

>>15788666
worth gettin the guy tailored? managed to get that crombie free but it was a size too big youre right, but it was such a deal you know, that bitch goes for like 300. looks good enough unbuttoned with a fp

>>15785318
>>15785352
>>15787076
I shaved my head from a young age (military school) and have an aesthetic jaw. I went to a college with lots of black people (~65% black) and I wore an old black leather jacket, altama vulcanized leather boots, and indigo selvedge jeans with a green sandstone twill shirt underneath for the colder months. I just acted like a normal human being and I had zero problems.

For whatever reason, black women fucking loved the look and hit on me a lot. There was no racial connotations to their advances either, and I shaved my head damn near bald (clippers set to zero). I'm /fit/ though and would always exercise with the 7AM kinesiology class, so maybe that had something to do with it too since I didn't look like a hungry twink.

I think it can totally be done, but it might just take the right person. I didn't even know what a "skinhead" was.

>>15788675
Could be, but I almost think it looks like it has a zipper. Could be a zip trucker jacket? Most likely just a generic "jacket" that looks like it's halfway between a trucker and a harrington, and may or may not be leather. Either way I'm a big fan of the non-uniform skinhead look.
>>15788695
Maybe if it's all wool. If you need to wear it for necessity in the meantime, I think it'd be less noticeable with black pants and shoes.
>>15788702
Most black and brown people know the difference between neo-nazi skinheads and other types of skinheads, who they would just call "rockers". Had alot of gangbanger friends who called us "their rocker boys" but we never bothered explaining the whole bit. They understood in a way, but the actual word "skinhead" always stayed unspoken.

>>15788730
I was never called a "rocker" or a "rocker boy," and I can't say that they would know the diff between the types of looks. I didn't come from an area where people would really know about this kind of thing very much. I guess I also never understood guys who obsess over their hair. I'm not balding, and I shave my head and never had issues with women of any race. I have also never been called a "skinhead" despite having the literal skin of my head showing. Maybe it's because I never bloused the jeans or wore suspenders?

>>15788675
I think your on it. I’m sure this is something you could find in a local vintage or decent thrift.

I’m generally impressed with the impromptu configurations of some of the older photos in this thread. It really compliments the fact they were working with what was available to them at the time being mostly working class.

I think it would be interesting to see what would be the modern equivalent by todays availability in the local markets/thrift while sticking true to the staples.

>>15788737
I see. In most medium size cities or larger, in the the mid-atlantic and northeast parts of America, people know about this sorta stuff.
I think not blousing the jeans, not wearing suspenders, and the fact that you wear say a leather jacket instead of a nylon bomber, is what makes the difference.
Also, even if you weren't considered a "rocker" in the way I was, I think the combo of athletic white guy with buzzcut, dark jeans, and leather jacket has been a sort've "rock" stereotype look for awhile now. I use the term "rock" very loosely here, more as a term for this general sort've "edgy" white guy look, than anything to do with music.

>>15788157
They were always popular and the other brands that look good cost an arm and a leg, like marie laffont, sacai etc.

>>15788753
the quality of clothes available today are way inferior than those of even 2 decades ago, so it is hard to say. Also, it was common for skins to save up for expensive items, since they were all general working trades most of them could afford expensive boots/an item, but it would cost like a month of wages. I mean, crombies were prevalent all the time, and even cheap knock offs at the time would still run up 70-80 bucks before inflation.
Workwear modern day is all associated with losers and skaters, Ive never seen it done with a shaved head so it might look tough. I know barncoats were popular back in 69, 70 and later in 77-80, and those are still fashionable today, but I dont think it would gel with the aesthetic. Skinhead is a weird mix between surplus military, work wear, and old school fashion from, like dad and grandpa's fashion, but worn youthfully and aggressively. Modern day skin probably needs to reflect the old formal (british) fashion still to some extant, but with the minimalist sharpness that the style always had. Its a shame modern work boats are ugly shits like timbs.

>>15788753
Other than never finding boots in my size, It'd probably be similar to what I wear. I shop mostly at thrift, and have always honored this general silhouette.
Black or grey slim or straight leg jeans. (the color preference is just a personal thing)
Thrifted knit sweaters, usually in darker or muted colors, unless I find one with like faire isle pattern or something, then I'll get bright.
Any flattish bottom low profile sneakers (adidas, pumas, vans, no names, whatever)
Lots of different jackets that have a general trucker or blouson shape.
(actual thick ass vintage wrangler denim jacket, leather A2 bomber, Weird wool workcoat sorta thing, that looks a little like an eisenhower era field jacket, redkap mechanic jacket, some weird leather jacket that was maybe for like fishing in from the 70s or 80s?, a few others trucker shaped oddballs.)
I also wear alot of thrifted flannels, but I don't think they really fit the style.
The key is just keep the silhouette in mind, and have an idea of what colored clothing items you will tolerate wearing.

>>15788753
https://youtu.be/RINjMrDGxeM?t=136
there's a scene in the movie Meantime of a group of skinheads hanging out, and only one of them really fits the stereotyped look. The others, like you said, look like they're wearing outfits mostly cobbled together of whatever they had available. Its interesting to see how people interpret working-class toughness when theyre not sticking to the uniform, as much as I appreciate the classic look.

>>15788835
Always meant to check that out. It seems like back in the day all clothes could've fit the style, because we just had less types of clothes?

>>15788844
I think clothes were just made better. Jeans were all high or mid rise, solid color, straight cut or tight. Dress shirts were made with better quality fabrics, cheap clothes were made to be durable rather than disposable. Like a cheap pair of boots, like monkey boots, would last a decade. Donkey jackets would last two decades. Doc martens were much more robust, the second hand market had expensive clothes sold cheap rather than the mountains of Walmart t shirts and prefaded biker jeans. That, and there was more of a culture of fashion that played a decent part in the economics of London, where there were easily accessible avenues in town filled with only clothing stores.

>>15788564
they didn't come straight-laced, though
straight-lacing is used to show that the color of your laces are intentional and in reference to lace code

>>15788895
Lace laws are regional and more of a 90s thing. Like some places blue means cop killer, some it's yellow.

>>15769137
it's honestly not as bad as people say, also love your skin complexion, fellow pale person here. I say give it a shave cuz shaved heads are hot. just do the razer head raw with no bumper

>>15762022
i used to dress like this as a child

>>15762022
I live in a big rural area,farmers usually wear my country's army pants because they are durable and comfortable ,are camo pants to autistic for casual wear?

>>15764602
I dress kinda like the one on the left without realising it was a skinhead style, I mean besides the blue jeans and boots which I obviously knew - and my hair/facial hair look nothing like skinheads so I think I'm fine.
Nothing against skinheads, I guess I don't really know too much about them.
Just not trying to look like one.

>>15789337
Mustache shearling skin is the most based one in the pic. That's a good look Anon. Don't worry I think that falls under not uniform enough to make people think you're a skin. Read through this thread to learn more about skins.

alpha industries jacket bomber.

>>15763827
Oh I wish it could be Christmas every day!
This look suited them better.

>>15789591
They're both sick, Slade's just been class throughout

sizable skinhead subset: the clockwork skin

>>15790409
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DqLS5SDWao

some 90s skins. Like the loafers on the left, they're pretty slick.

skinhead style somewhat survived into the 21st cent popular culture in England. Cooke from skins wear's some pretty skinhead outfits. Probably more a nod to his northern heritage, but still.

bonus, he mostly wears loafers

>>15778824
This. People outside of England forget that the original skinheads were predominantly non-racist working class men who also had black and brown members.

Highly recommend checking out the film "This is England" for this skinhead vs non-racist skinhead dynamic. Just a great film in general.

>>15790420
not skinheads just serbs

>>15790440
Italians actually, lots of italian skinheads. prolly because of football, but they also had an oi scene in the north in the late 80s

>>15767423
here's a fucking weird one, Creedence Clearwater Revival and some skins in 1970

what is the best skinhead boot?

>>15790630
Travel back in time to buy a Doc Martens before they became cheap, gay lezbo shoes.

>>15790665
very helpful thank you

>>15790673
Ok, in all seriousness, I would say the best skinhead boot today is one that is either solid black or oxblood and looks like an actual workboot and not a fashion or goth-ish.

>>15790630
Gripfasts or Corcoran.
If you wanna go a little cheaper, Rufflander 94OR Safety Footwear
If you wanna try a different skinhead style, grafter's monkey boots.

>>15790683

workboots to tend to look better, thank you!

>>15790745
I like those in the pic. Very good recommendations I'm bouncing between those options. Also do you happen to know which shoes these are?

>>15790862
They look like they could be polish rumuny, in which case, good luck trying to buy a pair. They're obscenely expensive

hey this thread isnt shitty

>>15790902
do you like the shiny or the matte gripfasts

>>15790862
>>15790902
These boots are driving me nuts. They're definitely not rumuny. They have a big rounded steel toe like gripfasts but not the right stitching. They could be old US field boots.

>>15790980
Shiny. The black ones with the white laces are the ones I own. Don't really like the gf oxblood coloring, but the mahogany they offer is pretty attractive

>>15790987
I've been trying to figure out what they are for the last few hours lolol. I think they might be corcoran field or jump boots but i can't find a pair with the chunky sole AND with the capped toe and 12 eyelets. Maybe they're an older pair? I can't fuckin figure it out. Maybe another US military boot?

>>15790996
I think I might have come close. They could be some type of old idf boot

Is a donkey jacket worth getting? Do you think they look any good?

>>15791048
>donkey jacket
They look nice.
I think the leather shoulders might make it a little hard to pair with some things without looking maybe a bit tryhard?
You could go for something like a wool mac jacket if you agree.

>>15762022
>pretends to be natsoc
>wears br*tish dpm camo instead of eichentarn

>>15791109
The leather shoulders are iconic but they make them without. Doesn't that defeat the purpose though?

>>15790457
Why is it weird. They didn't just listen to reggae

>>15790438
I would not say non racist. Pakistanis and Indians got a hard time from them.

>>15791828
Most of them are not actually leather shoulders but PVC, leather ones are rare as fuck as they are more from the 1950's-60's, Don't buy repro fashion donkey jacket's. You can still get old ones off ebay at a reasonable price. I;m not a skin aymore so i just wear mine with a pair of brown moleskins and a cap/work boots.

>>15790745
>If you wanna go a little cheaper, Rufflander 94OR Safety Footwear
>If you wanna try a different skinhead style, grafter's monkey boots.

Hello styleforum user, My rufflanders are still going strong.

>>15791828
Managers wore them without the shoulders, and usually with tartan lining, ones with pvc/leather shoulders were given out by the local council/factory/ coal mine to the workers. They are cheap but warm jackets that's why it's ridiculous to pay £200 quid for a designer one.

>>15791916
waiting for my grafers to get good and worn, thats when they look sick

I only lurk that thread, I've never posted. Its very useful, but its all old men basically. I just read a handful of pages at a time, but Id say Ive prolly gone through half at this point

>>15791944
I think you can get them for like 20 bucks on AliExpress

This entire thread is much much better than expected. Appreciate the old skins photos especially.

>>15792200
Seriously? mine are all second hand, 70s or 80s. i doubt the chinese ones are like the old ones in material, i have a few now , my favourite one i got which is from the 70s and only cost me 1 quid from the charity shop, if it was in some hipster vintage shop they would of charged 40 to 50 quid.

I do like monkey boots, but they are bit too light for my taste , im used to wearing heavy 6 eyelet work boots now.

>>15792296
I posted my other boots itt already, big heavy 10 eye gripfasts. I was gifted all oxblood docs, eyeholes and sole colored, but those guys are beat to all hell. I caved recently and got a pair of Corcoran boots for free that have yet to arrive, and I bought a pair of boots that Im hoping turn out good. They're a brogue pair of combats with a low, flat toe. 11 holes I think. Look sort of like a mix between a cowboy boot and docs from the pics, hope they're alright.

>>15792355
I do like the commando style soles on the gripfasts, i had some old 6 eye commando sole boots a while back but i had no idea what i did with them, they were great, the corcorans are nice but a bit high for my taste, i do like the ww2 us service boot what are a bit similar but shorter./

>>15792389

>>15792389
I like highboots personally, they give you options on how low you want to wear pant legs. Im not a big fan of low boots with large amounts of sock showing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez0BL3aysQg

I come back 2 weeks later and this thread is still alive. What the fuck is happening to this board? Thought I was literally tripping when I saw this in the catalog

>>15792435
>What the fuck is happening to this board?
wdym did you read the thread?

>>15792408
well i never had my trousers so high up that it showed sock off, they just went slightly above the 5th eyelet, much like they had it 68-69
>>15792429

Aussies kind of had there own off shoot of the skins in the early 70s called sharpies, bit of trivia.

>>15792435
You must have really boring trips.

>>15792464
one of the classic defining fashion details of the skin was showing their socks. I think it looks good.

>>15792567
First time ive heard that, never heard that from blokes who were there in the 60's and 80's. wasn't for me personally, i guess it varied in different regions. Much like some didn't always have turn ups on there jeans. I liked wearing double denim with only the second button to the top being buttoned up like they did in northern england late 60's early 70s, seeing as i'm a northerner i imitated it. Gonna be honest, i got a bit bored of sticking to the rigid rules of skinhead style eventually, i still have elements of it but i'm more my own person now.

What type of razor length is this? Looks slightly longer in the front but maybe it’s just grown out?

>>15792610
Looks like a number 3 going to 4 with a fringe and longer at back to me, personally never went below 3, didn't look good with a shaved head, went full on suedehead few year after, looked better with longer hair

>>15789247
Yeah outside of work it stands out if you wear camo pants, but I think it would be alright to wear them during winter.

>>15790630
Any good black hiking boot/steel toe boot.

>>15792601
I heard it in a skin doc where they were doing interviews, I could try to find it just to show I'm not pulling it out my ass. But after I saw that, it fit the pictures from 69 and the late 70s that I saw, especially around the ska scene. Surely you saw kids with loafers and red socks in the 80s.I mean you can see it itt in pics like these>>15764650
>>15764602
>>15763871

>>15764817
>>15764809
>>15764829
>>15767611
>>15768922

>>15792601
I agree, I get skinhead style was always rigid, but it's about time it got a new wave, especially considering how it's an almost dead cult. More room to experiment, while still being clean, uniform, and tough

>>15790665
Or get solovairs

>>15792671
Yeah, i think i get what you mean, personally i just preferred black socks.
>>15792685
I think the time of subcultures is over in many ways, the internet and social media are partly to blame, you dont see goths, punks, metalheads etc where i live either from my experience, i was the only skin in the small town i lived in really apart from one lad who was alot younger than me, you do see skins at ska/reggae/oi shows but even then alot are in there late 40's and early 50's now.

>>15786975
Cope harder faggot.

>>15792127
Is this skinhead?

>>15793105
No. Short hair does not automatically make a skinhead.

>>15793111
He's got a collared shirt and suspenders..

>>15792685
Would be thankful to see a new wave over the boomer greatfuldead culture rampant in my town any day.

>>15793152
Be the wave.
Start casually. Get a shaved head or nice shirt crop, and pull off the skinhead sillouhette, but with items that are part of your towns culture.
Instead of British style button ups, wear vintage flannels or "western shirts" that have a nice tailored fit like a button up. Trucker Jackets should still gel in a deadhead town, and you can play with trucker jackets in other materials like corduroy and suede.
Knit sweaters and cardigans should be ubiquitous there anyway.
Just wear straight leg or slim fit jeans depending on your body type. That's pretty much a given anywhere.
Find some boots that look like the sortve doc shape but are more outdoorsy. Maybe even brown if you're wearing other brown leather or earth tone clothes.
Also replace shiny dress shoes loafers with suede moccasin loafers.
You can stay true to the sillouhette, but play with the materials, etc., And the semi familiarity might make it catch on.

>>15791828
>The leather shoulders are iconic
If this is the case then yeah I guess go for it, I'm not British so I've never seen these before.

>>15793121
and? skinhead style is a larger fitted button down collar shirt (3 finger they call it) with half inch to 1 inch braces, 1-4 hair guard and razor parting, no self respecting skin would have stubble like that and they usually only had sideburns.

>>15793255

In all fairness they are kind of unknown to anyone under the age of 45 in Britain now too, they just kind of disappeared. I did hear there was some imported to the us a long time ago but i don't know if its true, some german skins wore them and they were also somewhat popular in japan for some reason.

>>15793121
He's got a crew cut not a crop for starters

>>15791907
Is this me old mucker donkey jacket formally monkey spanner? How do

>>15794043
Alreet cocka tha alreet lad?

>>15794115
I am, it's good to have a knowledgeable soul on the clothing of skins and suede on here.

>>15793854
>>15794015
I mean I'm half fucking around, but also we have been talking about revamping and refreshing the style, by taking elements from it,but doing it differently. Not following the skinhead bible to a T.
He is dressed "smart" no denying that. And although his hair has got a taper, I'd say it's a 3 on top at most and a 1 at the bottom. I don't think that's a drastic enough taper to disqualify him from the look. In fact, depending on how your hair lays on your head, I think you can have as much as 1 inch on top, as long as the taperis gradual and not drastic. I do agree about crazy stubble like that, but mustaches have been brought into the look, especially in the 80s. Also tattoos in obnoxious places like neck face and hands have been part of the look since the 80s, although I think black tattoos are more part of the look than colorful sailor jerry ones.

>>15766628
>Also many new young SHARPs, Hardcore Kids, and Punks took it upon themselves to violently expel Nazi Skins from any punk shows
eat shit you faggot they cry to the police and land owners to deal with it.

>>15794289
Not what happened in my city, and many others on the east coast.

>>15763765
>>15763770
if i saw somebody dressed like that these days i would assume theyre gay

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