/fa/ - Fashion

>>15686520
if they want to move up the chain they cannot rely on Sellita or even Miyota. Like I said the 400 is not their 1st inhouse calibre, it's not their 1st rodeo.

>Oris as a brand was formed in 1904 and from then until 1981 is said to have produced a total of 229 in-house made movement types. In 1982, Oris stopped making full movements but kept on making modules that would got over other movements. Until now all base movements have been Swiss ETA or Sellita. In 2014 Oris returned to a fully in-house made movement with the 110. Now in 2020 they further unveiled the calibre 400.

>One reason that brands today are eager to produce their own movements is because mechanical Swiss movements are becoming harder to source. The supply of ETA is unreliable to companies outside of the Swatch Group and alternatives such as Sellita are mostly booked with orders. Moving to the development and production of in-house made movements allows brands to remain independent and ensure sustainable production.

>>15686534
> a company with infinitely more funding and experience in fine mechanics and manufacturing that still struggled to make a reliable copy of 40+ years old ETA movements
I'm kind of actually confused on this one. Wouldn't making a new movement/copying an old one be relatively easy nowadays with how accessible all the info and manufactering is?

>>15686540
i guess the engineering of ETA is just fucked and for Oris they probably made the decision that making a new movement from scratch is better than trying to fix whatever inherent flaws are present in ETA. Its like coding, you know? instead of trying to fix the messed up "spaghetti code" sometimes its better to just scrap the whole thing and make it from new.

>relatively easy
i think its more than that, its not just copying the parts but it's also material engineering, like the exact alloy % and minute adjustments and even lubricants. If it was achievable we would see exact 1:1 clones of rolex movements for example coming out of china but even they cant do it

Does anyone agree that inhouse movements are dumb? For a movement, you look at three things : power reserve, accuracy, serviceability. Maybe antimagnetic if you're around magnetic fields strong enough to affect a watch a lot. Inhouse movements just means that you can't fix it anywhere else, a regulated movement will keep better time anyway. It has no inherent accuracy advantage, it's serviceability has disadvantage, amd power reserve is dependent on the movement, not it's 'inhouse-ness'.

Basically, inhouse movements are just used to justify high prices.

>>15686534
>In 1982, Oris stopped making full movements
From the 1970's on Oris tried to carry itself throughout the quartz crisis by making cheap Timex-like pin-lever movements. That limited know-how in movement design and manufacturing was most probably lost or became obsolete in more than three decades. It's like claiming that a car company that's been out of manufacturing since 1982 is entirely capable of designing and building a new cutting edge model from the scratch based on its past experience.
>Moving to the development and production of in-house made movements allows brands to remain independent and ensure sustainable production.
Yep, but it's a major gamble. ETA's vision for the industry's future is clear if bleak, you'll get a non-serviceable mechanical movement made in entirely robotized factories in your entry to mid-range shitter that they'll simply change every 8-10 years for a fixed price. What Oris is trying to achieve with a serviceable mechanical movement with 10 years service intervals is very, very ambitious.
>>15686540
Yeah, that's the point. It's imagined to be a relatively easy engineering/manufacturing task and yet Sellita still struggled despite having more funding and experience.

>>15686560
its an assertion of engineering instead of relying on 3rd parties. A brand without inhouse calibres is at the whim of the market and trends. Just look at Frank Muller. Once they were hot shit now they are nothing.

>>15686568
how can it be that hard? if people can do it in 1920 or whatever why can't they make a new one now? it doesn't have to be that complex.

>>15686558
>>15686568
Well I'm surprised, I mean I know the mecanism assembly isn't easy but I completely forgot about the alloys and stuff. Still I'm surprised some big chinese company hasn't just reversed engineered it by now.

>"Hi Anon, nice to see you again my friend. A new G-Shock I see? You've got amazing taste in watches, absolutely splendid! I'm in a bit of a hurry, have a great day, I'll see you next time! Okay ciao!"

>>15686529
tizzight.
I love day-dates at 6 like this.
not feeling the perlon on this, though.

>>15686606
Probably not helped by my shitty phone camera, much more detailed & less of a big black blob irl.

>>15686593
I hate this dude, his fake waspy accent and smug face annoy me

>>15686593
I like him
ASMR

>>15686617
chuffed to bits

you children should get a real watch

>>15686593
i dont like him either... his place is ugly, he seems like a dirty person with a hoarding habit.

What is the minimum price for a watch that an average person will consider worthy of respect?

>>15686637
Haha wow nice post I havent seen that one a million times before
Next up post the really fat guy with the rolex that will make me hekin kek extrimo

>>15686645
$12
f91w

>>15686609
so what kind of a watch is this? looks like maybe late 60s-70s

>>15686646
get lost newfag, spew your reddit tier memes elsewhereRINO KEKERINO XD OMEGALUL

>>15686631
I don't care about chronos but that strap goes with that case perfectly

>>15686609
Slava "Fridge" mechanical, 1970s. I don't have the accurate Russian name but there seems to be a nearly unlimited number of variants.

>>15686645
1 months salary

>>15686654
those memes are from twitch, fag.

How great is the difference in price between a new and used submariner / explorer?

>>15686687
does that make it better?

>>15686704
t. angry old man yells at cloud. jpg

give me one single reason why I shouldn't order two identical shitters and dual wield them on both wrists
let's rethink effay wt

>>15686703
if only there was a website that sells new and used luxury watches.

>>15686709
fuckin' do it and post pics

>>15686709
You should order one black dial and one white dial for that sweet ying yang effect

I find divers boring or tryhard for the most part, but this one caught my eye. Blue, green, orange.

>>15686709
five identical invictas

>>15686721
yeah i was thinking maybe going for 3 and having 2 on the left side so it's still left side heavy, maybe one near the elbow

>>15686654
been here longer than you faggot. Why are you talking down on meme spam while posting the same seiko meme pic we've all seen on these threads a million times. Unless you havent seen them here before...but that wouldn't surprise me newfag

>>15686719
I was looking at these the other day. they seem pretty nice and less than £900 on a bracelet.

>>15686725
No, no
One on each wrist
One on each ankle
One for big dick energy

>>15686759
> not having a watch on your dick
pathetic

SINN 104 OR 356? REEEEEEEEEE WHY IS 356 $2000 FUCK

god i wish they would just do 104 dial and hands with day/date without the bezel in 38mm case. no, 556 is boring as fuck

Shut up about Sinn already
Jesus christ....

>>15686778
356 is stupidly thick

>>15686781
UUUUGGGGGGGHHHHH THICCER

>>15686778
Damn, homie, this like your third or which thread now? Didnt you mention you already have a diver? Just take the 356 off when going swimming.

>>15686778
How is that piece of shit 2K?

>>15686781
>>15686786
15,5 mm vs 12 mm on 104, fuck me. that 38,5 mm perfect case though...

>>15686791
i browse /wt/ daily m8, trying to get some expert opinions here as we have strictly patrician taste here :^)

>>15686792
it's not a piece of shit, but yeah it's fookin overpriced innit.

>acrylic crystal
>thicc as fuck
>movement prone to fucking up (found some people have issues with the Sellita 500)

>>15686778
Ewww

>>15686709
do it

>>15686800
You dont mind if I throw a brick into your soup, then?
IWC made a quartz version of their pilot chrono once upon a time.

>>15686814
>quartz

>>15686801
>>15686780
no u

>>15686817
Nothing wrong with quartz. Especially on a chronograph that is supposed to be antimagnetic.

I don't like straps at all, I feel like they just cheapen the whole watch. Bracelet all the way.

>>15686560
>Basically, inhouse movements are just used to justify high prices.

Yes, unless these movements allows for a pretty slim watches or other features, if they are just a same thing but made by ourselves, then it is not worth from the utility point of view.

I would say in house movements are for watches you rarely use, not for daily use, just for weeked watches or even less wearing. if not, then you are exposed to the problems about servicing, that sometimes can take weeks and months. So if you go for the in house route you will need more watches.

And now I have a question about ETA, what will happen once they stop selling the movements, they will just sell parts for repairs or nothing about ETA at all?

>>15686719
Reminds me of the Fortis marinemaster b42

>>15686778
I can't get behind a chronograph with no tachymeter. Is this a common thing with "aviation" watches.

>>15686831
Why? There are plenty of uses for a chrono other than to estimate how fast you are travelling

>>15686827
Sellita will take over the market share if they are smart enough. Otherwise Seiko and Miyota.

>>15686824
the most expensive HH watches are all on leather straps though. The typical dress watch worn by high society are all on leather straps.

>>15686827
They are still selling movements arent they i thought they were going to stop selling ebauche?

Making it pointless for other brands to use if they wanted to modify it in any way as they'd be buying half a movementbto chuck it away

I really want that TAG Heuer tourbillon for $15k... but I don't have 15k. It would be my perfect watch forever :(

>>15686534
Is that actually true though? My chink helson has a proper eta in it

>>15686778
i really cant into Sinn

not only are they flat, lifeless and sterile, they have to be autistically named in NUMBERS too.

Why cant they give their watches catchy sounding names? i cant remember all these fucking robot numbers.

>>15686778
So 1 is out of your price range and the other isnt the watch you want.

Stop obsessing over 2 watches that you obviously don't want.

>>15686836
Most chronographs include it. It's missing a standard feature.

>>15686867
They are meant to be minimal. Its about the readability, the line work and the toolish utilitarian style of them.

Obviously not the brand if you want high polish applied markers. Its like complaining Alange does use enough carbon fiber and ceramic

>>15686872
Nah not really... Easily as many if not far more dobt to be honest

>>15686870
cause i want a sinn because muh german tool watch heritage, damasko designs suck imo despite better bang for buck

>>15686867
lmao that's the way its supposed to be you melon

>>15686851
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCBdsIwPA68
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCBdsIwPA68
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCBdsIwPA68

IT's so beautiful :(

> this amount of sinnposting
Is it just a meme nowadays? I mean really, go and look at their watches: they're all the fucking same, black background, white hands. Same metal bracelets and leather, and wham, a few thousand grand price tag. Why? Is the movement that good?
>>15686881
> it's about the readability, the line work and the toolish utilitarian style
Can you really call it a fucking tool watch when it goes for that much?

>>15686893
wow that is nice looking
that is maximalism done right

>>15686905
Yes, Why wouldnt I? Calling something a tool watch doesnt mean you inherently treat it like shit.
Something being expensive doesn't exclude it from being rugged and a tool.

A royal oak is still a sports watch but most people wouldn't throw it on for a game of ruby or american football

>>15686867
i am studying to get into banking or finance, i'd rather start in a fintech later but i'm from germany so it's probably gonna be boomer banking at the start, anyways when i can afford it, i'll get this bad boy

>>15686867
I was looking at Sinn but saw some hamiltons had the same movement so I went with that. it was much easier on my wallet.

>>15686919
What did you buy? I was lookong at Hamiltons but there was always one little thing that bugged me.

>>15686925
I got a field khaki mechanical with date

Gosh darn it, vostokbros. After a month of running fine my mickey stopped running last night. Started again with a good smack and seems to be acting normal again. My return window is 60 days so I could always return, but I’m already in love and if this is only a once a month or so thing I don’t care. Guess I gotta cross my fingers and observe for the next two weeks or so.

>>15686905
>> it's about the readability, the line work and the toolish utilitarian style
>Can you really call it a fucking tool watch when it goes for that much?

That depends mostly on the user.If the wearer use it for its intended use, then its a tool watch, if the watch is used just as a watch outside of the area the watch should excel, then its not a tool watch and is more a jewelry piece that acts as a watch. It's the eternal meme, dive watch and never puts it into the water. If you actually use the watch then its ok, if you are larping then its not. The legibility thing, are you using it in environments in which you need that kind of legibility?, is your sight right?.
tilitarian look is a legit concept, you can like stuff that is not gaudy, I don't like shiny or decorated things.


>>15686916
Get a Casio databank instead, people will respect you more.

>>15686931
sounds like its a lubricant issue, not sure. Could be looked at

i have a very old vostok and it has problem too, the mainspring is slipping in the barrel, when im winding it, it occasionally "unzips". I can probably learn how to fix it myself but itll be a huge hassle opening the barrel up.

The Hamilton Khaki King II

Semenmaster

>>15686864
ayy your helson arrived, are you enjoying it anon?

Frens, I guess I can now say I can repair Accutrons. Serviced it and replaced the two busted coil blocks (taken from a later clone Citizen with a different hacking solution, so it needed some niggering), and since Saturday it has lost about one second. I'd say this is good enough.

>>15687034
Also original bracelet.

I'm not keeping it though, someone has already offered to buy it, and I already have a clone Citizen Hisonic.

>>15687034
fucking awesome dude what a kickass watch

wear it until you die

>>15687034
Okay, now it's two seconds, in a bit more than 48 hours. I'll still take that.

>>15686517
>Election Day Is Coming Edition

Biden's watch is better than Trump's.

This is fact. You cannot deny this.

>>15687055
Yeah, well Drumpf is a boomer who dresses himself.

Pants-shitter probably can't even tie his shoes anymore, let alone pick out his own watch.

Trump has many watches but often wears a gold Rolex Day-Date
Biden's watch he has chosen to wear during the campaign is the Omega Seamaster Professional 300M, basic black model on the bracelet

>>15687055
>wearing the moonwatch
>good

No.

>>15687070
LMAO no fucking way

this is fucking hilarious holy shit

>>15687072
Why?

>>15687070
Fact: not wearing Rolex or Vulcain Cricket automatically means shit-tier POTUS.

>>15687072
its just so fucking predictable
I thought it was shitpost but looked it up and its actually true

>>15687071
pic highly unrelated I assume?

>>15687055
Implying that his ugly Omegas are better than a Vacheron

>>15686517
I'm thinking about buying a square watch like this guy.

Does anyone knows what it is?

>>15687144
>tons of money
>still someone manages to buy the ugliest vacheron there is

incredible.

>>15687144
Square watches and small watches will be the shit soon.

I'm trying to find cheap alternatives (under $1000) to vacheron-constantin or cartier tanks that don't look too cheap either... I only found pic related so far.

>>15687015
god damn BITCH WRIST, fucking lift you cunt

>>15687148
You're just a laggard, that's all.
Keep buying stainless steel wagie watches.

>>15686709
Maradonacore

>>15687147
Looks like Seiko's Tank clone

>>15687158
i'll look it up, thanks

>>15687092
what's predictable about it?

>>15687153
Too much work not worth it. Id rather just become obese like Faterico.

>>15687055
>going for truininanashabadepressure instead of covfefe

For 40 bucks I´m liking this and it convinced me to get an Amphibia next.

>>15687158
This guy is a famous model who dated Zachary Quinta for many years. It’s definitely Cartier

>>15687239
i like vostok but that one is profoundly ugly

>>15687055
Pretty sure he’s been wearing an 80s/90s seiko chronograph. He won’t be wearing an Omega in office.

Ever since Clinton, every president has started wearing affordable common-man models while in office...Excluding Trump.

>>15687244
nah Cartier's Tanks are all pigfat

>>15687071
Can't wait for the Artemis edition seamaster 300.

>>15687255
I think the "Tank Louis Cartier" is a slimer model

>>15686827
Paying a premium for inhouse movement just to not wear them to minimize age on the movement seems, I don't know, pointless? Most inhouse movements just up the power reserve, I haven't seen any major brands using a significantly thinner movement(automatic, not hand wind). So you just end up not even using the long power reserve since you don't want to wear it out and it's a weekend watch?

>>15687244
>This guy is a famous model who dated Zachary Quinta for many years.

Just googled him and found these, if anyone is interested, as /fa/ is a gay board
>>2121984

>>15687071
This is a very embarrassing post

>>15687244
>This guy is a famous model who dated Zachary Quinta for many years.

Just googled him and found these, if anyone is interested, as /fa/ is a gay board:
>>>/hm/2121984

101 pet peeves when browsing brand websites

>messy layout
dropdown menu, buttons, banners AND text links? what is this, geocities?
>exact specifications tucked in some obscure corner/missing info
i dont give a shit about your marketing blurb just show me the numbers. And oh please include measurements like lug to lug, is that so hard
>intentionally vague details
what exactly is 'automatic movement'? seiko? miyota? seagull? PT500? WHAT IS IT.
>no 'About Us'
brief history please. I shouldn't need to wiki your brand to get a summary
>stupid UI with huge sliding elements and video thats a pain to navigate on a phone
Basically every single luxury brand. WHY? its not sleek or modern its fucking annoying STOP IT I JUST WANT TO SEE THE WATCH.

>>15687308
shut up, phoneposter.

>>15687151
>Square watches and small watches will be the shit soon.
this. what reference is this? pretty

>>15687034
doing God's work

>>15687034
Nice, d'you have an email or something? I have two tuning fork watches but basically no one local to service them.

>>15687308
never have that problem when I'm shopping for my Rolexes, can you give examples please?

>>15687318
Seiko SFP606P1

Asking a third time because I never got an answer, no I'm not that other sinn guy
556 I or A? I'm partial towards the A but its giving me heavy explorer vibes.

>>15687255
Any vintage model is tiny. Even the current Large model is very small in person

>>15687151
Definitely happening with actual fashionable people.

Most internet watch guys are boomers who dress like absolute shit. Also why god awful models like the hulk are so sought after

>>15687348
I is for sure the better choice

The Matte dial of the A looks cheap in person

>>15687364
Oh, I was under the impression that they had the same dials save for the indices.

>>15687353
It's less the total size of the watch and more the proportions of the case. Cartier tanks are thick and bloated.

Guys... where would you spend the last year of your life? And which watch would you wear that's under $10k?

>>15687407
Home. Every last to-go and to-do in my country.
Probably a navitimer or a GS.

>>15687308

Tudor's dealer locater on their website literally doesn't work, I tried multiple browsers. I want to try on some models before buying online but I literally can't find the dealers. What a mess.

>>15687407
>Guys... where would you spend the last year of your life?
If money wasn't an issue, Amsterdam.
>And which watch would you wear that's under $10k?
That would be a long list of possibilities, but it would probably either be a RGM model 25 spiral guilloche or Tudor bb 58

I think i've found my grail watch (it's a womens watch but fuck it).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5MYXkWndlw

identify please

>>15687455
She looks like a Linda

>>15687445
>If money wasn't an issue, Amsterdam.
Why Amsterdam? It seems like such a disgusting place. You really can't look further than drugs and whores?

>>15687455
Looks like a crackhead and a whore

>>15686521
i wish they didnt cuck you with a plastic shroud on the arnie. It's also too expensive for what it is
God I love tunas, so glad the chinks got this one right finally

all that phisting is catching up to him bros...

I got my SARB035. Kind of surprised at how small it is, though it does fit my wrist pretty well.

>>15687470
durability wise sure, plastic was a bad choice but honestly i much more prefer how the plastic looks as opposed to how it would look all metal

>>15687470
Nice. I really want to get the 1km tuna can

>>15687479
it has some roughness about it but the hand length, double domed crystal, dial, and handset (and hand length) are perfect.
literally the watch seiko should be selling if they weren't retarded cunts about compartmentalizing their line up into price categories.
>>15687478
No the plastic shroud isn't soulful like a nice acrylic crystal. It's just cheap shit because they think if they fully specced out the arnie people wouldn't buy the marine master tuna. Same situation with the solar tuna.
Seiko and Swatch are absolute cunts about this. Tissot and Hamilton are shit on purpose because if they made a nice watch there would be no reason to go up to Omega etc.

>>15687465
Because my life is already empty and alone and if I had one year left I may as well numb myself as much as I possibly can. No point in pretending that anything you do has meaning when no one will miss you

>>15687485
nice waffle strap. name?

>>15687488
it's the chink one you can find them on ali etc.
Stiff but very comfy once boiled.
The best aspect about the tuna is the semi hooded shroud. Literally every strap/bracelet looks like it's a factory spec on it. I'm waiting on some chink super engineers.

>>15687494
>The best aspect about the tuna is the semi hooded shroud. Literally every strap/bracelet looks like it's a factory spec on it. I'm waiting on some chink super engineers.
you must be retarded since those have been out for a long time

>>15687500
>you must be retarded since those have been out for a long time
waiting for them in the mail I mean kek

>>15687470
But wasn't Arnie's watch plastic?

LESS THAN A MONTH

>>15687506
this

>>15687506
>>15687513
no It was a PVD metal shroud.
Look how it reflects light

Hey mechanical niggers, can your chronograph run for this long?
Oh whats that, on your way to another $600 service/dick flattening at the AD's watch"maker"?
HAHAHAHA
YET ANOTHER LOST TO THE MUD?!

>>15687458
>>15687466
the watch!

>>15687522
I don't think it was PVD, the watch is old, and there are lots of vintage arnies and none of them seems to be pvd, they even have scratches, some of them really beaten and that piece is still black with no signs of old and scratched PVD, technology that is basically meme and gets scratched really easy unless is some new meme tech like the Sinn one.

>>15686821
>Chris-chan watch

>>15687522
>>15687536
I prefer the screw-down pushers, to be honest.

>>15687508
Sitting in customs....c'mon customs!

>>15687584
>>15686521
>that ani digi dial
my dick

>>15687308
-Only one photo, from the front side, only the option of zoom in.
-Movement:Automatic
-Movement:Analog, yes analog, I have seen that.
-Size:Xmm, just that, no lug to lug, no height.
-Movement: Brand XX Caliber XXXXXX, thanks, now I have to google it to know that is not a brand in house caliber but a ETA or Sellita movement with a decorated rotor.
-Video of the watch: Not an actual review or something, just a shitty promo video that never shows the actual watch from every angle, just some quick images of the watch among many other random stuff related to the type of watch (sea scenes and water for diver watches...)

Help me out /wt/ - I'm on the hunt for an afforable sub-40mm diver. After wading through pages upon pages of Steinharts I've found this neat little San Martin that's well-specced and has a neat vintage style. One problem: I'm hoping to use this to retire my old Invicta Pro Diver and don't wanna just get another subbie homage/knockoff. Anything in the microbrand scene with a bit more personality or that's even like a Tudor homage instead?
>inb4 stop buying cheap brands and just save up for a Black Bay 58.

>>15687604
Corgeut makes some omega and tudor homages

>>15687604
Define affordable. I like my cward 38mm though, it's well specced and has a unique design. I love the logo placement.

>>15687586
lmao you bought a used probably never serviced sneedmaster?
Why? Cause some fat Australian told you to do so?

>>15687474
My only complaint about this watch is the links on the bracelet rubbing together which I already knew would be a problem, it kind of sucks though.

>>15687584
that nigger X kills every dial it's on
what the fuck what's wrong with just Diver's 200?

>>15687622
500 canuckbucks or less so I guess under $400 USD? Even if I was willing/able to drop a grand on a watch rn I can't stand c-word's logo placement.

>>15687613
does "corgeut" mean anything?

>>15687641
Nah, I couldn't be bothered to find a pic of the actual one I bought. The pic is of a cal. 321 in rough condition...the one I bought is a cal. 1861 from in excellent condition. I don't have many pics of vanilla Speedies though.

Incidentally, collectors would hate me....when I do buy a Cal. 321, I plan to get it serviced immediately by Omega. No point having a watch if you can't wear it.

>you hate Pluta? His intro always makes me laugh...

Are you waiting for a watch in the post too?
>pic is daily wear right now.

>>15687656
I think it's a black metal band

>>15687656
it's french for zucchini

>>15687656
it means ''the pleasure of being cummed inside''

>>15687689
im not gay you fucking faggot. fuck off

>>15687699
lurk more you prissy bitch

>>15687703
fuck off faggot. get aids and die

>>15687712
lmao twink bitch fuck outta here

>>15687653
Well it's far from original, but an 38mm islander is probably the best than. Sure it's cleary an skx homage, but the applied indicies and different handset makes it unique enough, and it's certainly not a rolex ripoff.

>>15687029
Not yet anon, end of November is when they ship.

I'm gonna....I'm gonna.....
LOOOOOOOOM

>>15687474
I thought the same when I got mine, but You’ll get used to it. 36mm-39mm is the ideal size for that style of watch.

>>15687474
>I got my SARB035. Kind of surprised at how small it is, though it does fit my wrist pretty well.
Lmao why do you think the wristlets on plebbit shill it so hard?

i would literally eat my own scat if someone offered me my dream watch

>>15687771
Try it, maybe you got the order wrong. You eat shit, someone offers you your watch.

I'm going to buy the Khaki King, but I'm stuck on whether to buy the black dial or the champagne dial.

>>15687808
Why would snyone buy such a boring looking watch. Why would anyone buy snything Hamilton? That branding is awful and mallcore to the max.

>>15687812
what? i could not think of a less objectionable watch if i tried. they got good watches, look nice, a reasonable price, and a heritage to match

>>15687817
It looks like something fossil would make.

>>15687818
fpbp

>>15687812
It's not bad actually

>>15687818
???

do you just not like it because its kind of plain? i am confuse

>>15687823
thank you for not being stupid

>>15686956
If it's a handwinder, the mainspring has a kind of a hook that attaches to the inner wall of the barrel. If that's broken off, you need a new spring. Automatics, on the other hand, are supposed to slip when fully wound so they don't break, and that's controlled by proper lubrication (and properly shaped spring).

>>15686593
He's such a scrawny muscle wasting faggot, I'm certain he has AIDS

>>15687827
No I legit find it ugly. The day window the date window the double numerals the fucking ''hamilton'' logo.

>>15687082
The guy with the golden toilette wears THE gold watch

>>15687455
Swatch prolly

>>15686593
Based and absolutely chuffed to bits.

>>15687151
>Square
Literally one of the first posts on this thread has a cheap rectangle.

>>15687326
is this some kind of subtle sarcasm lol

expect sliding menus upon sliding menus and huge autoplaying video panels
i know its a pain to navigate becuase ive literally seen my boomer uncle fiddling and squinting at his phone for minutes trying to find me the exact rolex hes talking about

There's too many damn choices

>>15688014
It must be hard not having any taste

>>15687308
Autoplay videos.
Lack of online store or worse yet, a barely functionnal and outdated "find a retailer" page leading only to physical adresses of stores that may not even stock your products anymore. AD systems are completely obsolete and watchmakers are seriously cutting their potential margins by not selling directly online.
>not including any price
Fuck off. Sure you need retailers to be able to get a cut from sales but you can at least give an MSRP.
>"swiss made movement" and other vague descriptions for the movement
'k thx, what movement is it though?
>meaningless marketing blurbs
No one cares about the "inspiration" for your blatant submariner clone, give us functionalities and specs.

I don't know what it is with watchmakers not being able to make a good website. The only tolerable ones I've found were meranom, Lip's, Yema's and some microbrands that can't afford a shitty web designer to shove autoplay videos and stuff like that.

Why does /wt/ hate microshitters so much?

Is a microbrand watch @ 600/700 with a 9015 really any worse than a ~1k - 2k with a ETA 2824. I kean i have vintage diver fatigue but there are some relatively interesting watches out there

>>15688014
They all look the same.

>>15688024
Most of /wt/ hate anything they can't afford.

>>15688025
Not him but you're stupid

>>15688026
Firstly that's just brandsimp cope. And secondly what you say doesn't make sense. If they hate what they can't afford why would they hate on affordable microshitters?

>>15688025
>>15688037
Relax, I can't tell the difference between half the watches in the thread.
It's just taste, If you've got a taste then you can see differences in those that match it.
For example
>>15687740
>>15687738
>>15687613
>>15687604
>>15687508
>>15687494
>>15687485
>>15687470
>>15687071
All look like the same watch in different color schemes to me because I don't like how any of them look.

>>15688040
That's because you're a blind fuck. It's literally all about the details. This is one of the most abhorrent posts I've seen in /wt/.
>Thowing in a tuna can with sub homage divers
Get yourself some glasses or something.

>>15688042
Look anon, we can't all be as autistic as you.

>>15688014
Get the LCW-M100TSE-1AER, similar styling and module but it has a sapphire crystal and a titanium case

>>15688043
Stop posting it's embarrassing

>>15688040
>all those listed
I just call all those Rolex watches because that's what they remind me of, not my taste either.

>>15688024
I'm still waiting on Zelos to restock their shit.

>>15688039
> @ 600/700
> affordable
That is a big assumption to make for the haters we are talking about.

>>15688024
?????
/wtm loves microshitters wtf are you talking about

my $10 casio mogs every thousand dollars fancy watches ITT. Why do you guys even try that hard just to fail?

>>15688051
The only people who hate them are people who have money for rolex or a Patek

>>15688052
/wt/ seems to love microshitters in the sense of Chinese companies making 1:1 copies of soikos at reasonable prices and vintage omegas clones.

>>15688054
>getting the one with arabic numerals
>not going for bar indices
Ishiggydiggy

>>15688045
I like that
>Radio signal
I don't know how that works, but the government can't track me with it right?
There's a more complicated looking one too

>>15688014
I fixed your image anon

>>15688056
well yes (duh) but theres also love for stuff like geokota/baltic/boldr/MJ/HKed

>>15688060
That's the kinda thing I was looking for.
the top one's pretty cool because it's solar charges eh and I think >>15688058 does too.
I'm assuming these watches aren't going to fall apart with a light beating right? And that they are ok with water, winter, some rocks, possibly asphalt, and intense heat right?
Top right in that pic made me hesitant because the numbers on the rim are just printed on or whatever so they might rub/scratch off.

>>15688055
Depends what you mean by a microshitter. I own Rolex and Patek. I also own watches in that 'affordable' price range. At that price point the movement doesn't matter to me at all, as long as its not quartz, all that I care about is the dial and to a less extent the case size and shape. They are something that look good but you don't care what happens to them during daily wear.

>>15688058
Yeah it's only recieving radio signals not transmitting them. It works by recieving long wave signals that set the time of the watch every night. Check your locale on this map if you can recieve a signal or not.

>>15688066
Are you looking for a "smarter" looking watch relatively speak because you have overlooked the obvious robust eco drive citizen option. Although its a bit more toolish looking.

The numbers on the tachy bezel will probably wear eventually yea.

>>15688014
dauphine hands are go
cushion watches are quirky

the thing is, so many intergrated bracelets. You cant switch the straps on these watches.

>>15688074
That' really cool, I'm in Canada so it looks like I'm covered fully.
If it doesn't get a signal I assume it just sticks with what it's doing until It does get a signal right?
I don't really get how it receives radio signals and understands them to tell time, but that's really cool.
>>15688077
Really not into whatever that is. I just went on the Casio, Citizen, and Seiko websites and looked at the watches there. There's no Eco-Drive category so it's just based off the ones I liked the look of.
>>15688078
No idea what the first part of what you said is, but I like the straps on them.
Any of the ones I'd swap the strap out with a nato strap you crossed out ass fat.
I like this too, but again I think the numbers would wear off and it looks too small from the youtube videos.

>>15688057
Idk what you're refering to post picture

>>15688088
>There's no Eco-Drive category
Kek, nevermind there is, I was looking for it on Casio's website

>>15688090
I think you look like you prefer the smarter looking watches.
AW1148-09E is pretty nice

How do you feel about divers?

>>15688088
I have a radio casio, yeah it tries to get a signal every day and it functions normally if it doesn't. It's a neat function while also bit gimmicky all things considered because it keeps good time anyways.

For reference I live in Stockholm which should be on the perimeter of the signal range. I couldn't get a signal while living in an apartment in the concrete jungle. However, I live in a suburb now and recieve my signal almost every night.

These radio signals are coming from dedicated broadcast towers to facilitate nationwide accurate timekeeping. It is a bit reduntant now when you have GPS time and almost everyone have internet connected phones and homes. Recently the american broadcast tower was slated for removal but it luckily recieved more funding.

>>15688097
>AW1148-09E
Doesn't really appeal to me, I know I'm being a faggot by not telling you why, but I don't really get it my self. It looks cheap, and I'm not against cheap, quite a few of >>15688014 are mega cheapos, but I feel like they embrace it.
>How do you feel about divers
From google images I'd say they look like if It swung one around and hit someone with it they'd have to go to a hospital from severe blunt force trauma. Not really into it.
Also I don't really go diving.
I also get the chronographs don't really align with the taste left side of the image, but I like them both for different reasons. The chronographs looks cool and adventure-ish, whereas the left side watches make me feel smooth and in sync.
Right now I think it's between
>>15688066
and
>>15688058
I think I value the solar charging more highly than I originally though, and the stock photos of the watches don't really do any of them justice. Pictures of the watches on people's wrists reveals a lot more.

>>15688098
I don't know why, but I really like that. Very cool.

>>15687586
>>15687658
>>pic is daily wear right now.
AAHAHAHAHAHA this is the fucking retard who was trying to convince everyone that his bullshit "Speedy" was actually perfectly fine and not a shitty replacement and everyone should get one FOR FUCKING YEARS and OF FUCKING COURSE he gets a real Speedy eventually ahahhahah fucking hell you absolute morons who believed him.

>>15688040
>>All look like the same watch in different color schemes to me
That's because they're all Rolex ripoffs.

How do you guys feel about having multiple watches from the same brand in your collection? I know this an autistic question

>>15688052
/wt/ has a few very distinct cliques
>the brostoks who only care about a watch if it's lubricated with vodka, has a cyrillic dial, was made in East-Germany or has the USSR Mark of Quality
>the seiko boys who mostly care about functionnality and reliability, Seiko is therefore their answer to everything. all aspire to get a Grand Seiko someday
>the shitter master who likes variety above all else and digs deep into the world of microbrands to find weird shit
>the Children of Archie, only care about luxury, even though they can't afford it, or much of it
>the mud-people who only like their G-Shocks
>the elusive HMT posters
>the refu/g/ees who on occasion try to bring up smart watches or multifunction watches
>the Yema intern

Is TAG Heuer a brand that's pathetic to wear after 40? I really like the designs but apparently it's supposed to be something for high school and college kids.

>>15688173
Depends
>Formula One
Do not wear one of these past the age of 30. Especially the colourful ones.
>Aquaracer, Autavia
they're fine
>Monaco
Boomer magnet, designed for the guy who can finally afford his dream car.

>>15688172
You forgot one
>the dedicated shitposter who posts the same images in every single thread
Like hammyfag or the guy with the 3 identical presages. We've always had a couple of them all the way back to windyknob

>>15688174
https://monochrome-watches.com/2020-tag-heuer-carrera-sport-chronograph-44mm-collection-review-price/
or
https://www.amazon.com/TAG-Heuer-Tourbillon-Chronograph-CAR5A8W-FT6071/dp/B07CT5HLGN

I'm way too poor for the second one though.

>>15688177
That tourbillon one is butt-ugly.
Chrono is fine, though it might wear a bit large with them big pushers on a case that's already 44mm.

>>15688178
>That tourbillon one is butt-ugly.
See I like it much more than the more classic looking chrono. I really like these partially blacked out industrial looking designs. Not entirely black though, there's a black version that IMO looks worse.

>>15688172
>the aliexpress coupon master and his box full of homages stuffed with nh35
>the frugal casio collector squeezing water from rocks trying to dress up $15 plastic watches
>the watchmaking apprentices talking about autistic technical stuff nobody else really knows anything about
>the occasional /fa/g tourist who wanders in with his €250 EMPORIO ARMANI purchase

>>15686517
I am considering a SRPE51, but I have a thin wrist (16cm wrist). Thoughts?

>>15688195
>the watchmaking apprentices talking about autistic technical stuff nobody else really knows anything about
These guys disappeared a long time ago.
sadly.

>>15688201
They were retards anyway, no one gives a shit about what third world battery changing monkeys think about anything.

>>15688171
That completely depends on personal preference. Many collectors only own one brand and want all the variations of a particular model(s). Others want a single great example of one or more models. Other collections want 'sports watches' or 'divers' and buy across multiple brands.

>>15688171
Depends.
Some brands have a lot of variety to their catalog, so getting several from them would be fine.
Getting several of a same collection or very similar models is too autistic even for me.
I really don't get the Casio and G-Shock collectors.

>>15688196
they have a 4.4 cm lug to lug so you'll be fine.
also consider the islander 38mm, if you don't live in EU(i think they dont ship to EU) . Same movement but better specs all around.

>>15688201
wasnt there a few people who wwre studying to be watchmakers? and that was just a few months ago. Some guy even had a cert from his school or whatever

>>15688221
>G-Shock collectors.
its a fucking rabbithole of FOMO

i dislike it because every cool new model gets immediately SOLD OUT only to pop up for 200%-400+% of their MSRP on reselling sites (looking at you NASA GSHOCK)

>>15688223
>they have a 4.4 cm lug to lug so you'll be fine.
>also consider the islander 38mm, if you don't live in EU(i think they dont ship to EU) . Same movement but better specs all around.
Thank you for the answer. EU here. I appreciate the suggestion, but I think the Islander is too "casual looking" for what I want (general use, not too formal, not too casual).

where the fuck are the good looking pelagos copies

>>15688240
I meant homages. Whatever, its the same word in the watch world.

>>15688074
RIP atlantic canada lol

How durable are mechanical watches in general? Will I break my ETA-2824 with the little shakey movement you do after washing your hands? Or riding a bike on a bumpy trail?

>>15686593
It goes to show you that you can't fake charisma by buying watches, sunglasses or other useless trinklets.

>>15688258
Washing your hands is fine if it's a water resistant case (most are these days but do double check). Don't get any soap on the watch though, it can degrade the seals.

>>15688265
Thanks but I'm more talking about shock resistance. Sometimes in scared to move my wrist too fast for fear of breaking the tiny little baby gears inside.

>>15688236
fair enough. I think the seiko will be fine size wise, dw about it. Shop around because ive seen them for $150 ish from grey vendors

>>15688258
washing hands is fine
bumpy trail probably not, long term. Mechanical watches really dont like sudden jolts or prolonged vibration (same goes for working on machinery). Some anon here broke his fortis while snowboarding. If its a blue square or below trail i wouldnt worry too much about it though.

mfw waiting on my SNE437 in the mail

>>15688271
Well, that socks. I ride a bike to and from work and the roads are in super bad condition. Guess il'll have to daily drive a quartz.

>>15688283
well tbf pretty much all modern movements have at least some form of limited shock protection, but if you are riding a bike it'll be stressful on the watch being worn as you'll be holding the handlebars.
You can do it but I would suggest putting it your watch in your backpack/sling bag or something during the ride so its not the the direct path of shock. at the end of the day it all depends on how much you are willing to risk /dont care about

Does anyone in /wt/ have an experience with these Valjoux 7750 clones ? The movement seems to be from Lorsa a French company.

As far as I can tell they seem to be generic rebranded and pretty much the same case and dial but with Lorsa/Military on the dial.

I've not really been able to find anything about them on the internet. a couple of forum post and a single video.

>>15688258
Supposedly modern watches with shock absorption can play golf now, but I have no idea.

anything like this?
i.e big date at 12 and subdial with seconds at 6 (optional), with clean readable dial

I don't have 20k to buy it from resellers

>>15688380
graf zeppelin big date
iron annie big date
eterna big date

all are quartz but under $300

rizt czech

>>15688271
>fair enough. I think the seiko will be fine size wise, dw about it. Shop around because ive seen them for $150 ish from grey vendors
Cool, thank you!

I was wondering... how could I locate these grey vendors? Online stores in my country are selling it for a minimum of 230€.

>try out a Zenith defy classic with the open dial
>it's still readable provided the lume are white
>titanium means it feels like I'm wearing nothing
If only I have $7700 right now

>>15688403
Early 80s Casio

Apparently Yema has a sale? Anyone looking for a new shitter may as well have a look.
https://en.yema.com/pages/black-friday?utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Don+t+miss+YEMA+s+Black+Friday+deals%21&utm_campaign=AC+CRM+EMAIL&vgo_ee=ofcNATGB4r35UXHCKJSBLxwUnRnlmwiuCIJkd9A7F3A%3D

>>15688270
Gears will be fine. The most delicate parts are the balance staff pivots, and those are protected by shock absorbing spring settings. I'd say that if you're wearing the watch, any shock that doesn't hurt your hand, your watch can likely take too. Just don't throw it out of the window.
Also you might knock some hands loose or something, but that's easy to fix.

>>15688441
i like yema, pic related is mine but i will never buy from them again. the chrono for this one is misaligned when i reset it, so its at 57 not 60. i sent it for repairs and came back the same. now i just stopped the chrono at 60 and never use it

you guys know about Tokyoflash? it's a website that sells experimental watches from Japanese designers.

I bought the Kisai Vortex a few years back, but the case broke (I bought the wood/ leather version instead of pic related, my mistake) and I'm going to 3d print a new custom case when I visit my parents again.

Does /fa/ like unconventional designs?

>>15688458
As the person who you just replied to I almost bought a yema until I googled it and found QC issues that you'd expect from chinks. I just put it up because there's one guy who keeps posting Yema.

>>15688459
Does this count?

>>15688461
its unfortunate because i really do like their designs but im not going to deal with their QC after this one

>>15688461
I like the colour palate of that one, it's got this elegant lássiez-faire vibe to it

a explorer-esque Federic Constant (!) hi beat, sellita based movement with matte dial, sapphire at 38.5mm across x10.7mm thick for 350 burger tokens

dont say i never link good deals anons

>>15688466
For a short amount of time I was obsessed with looking for watches with color contrasts like that (I think blue and red are the most common?)

>>15688055
The online people who hate them are far more likely to resemble Archie than someone who has any business owning a Rolex.

Functioning people do not give a shit

Is there a chink sub100$ pagani or whatever 34-36mm auto sapphire seagull/seiko oyster/datejust clone? Can only find 38-39mm

>>15688054
Unironically much more /fa/ when someone (especially if they’re wealthy) chooses to wear something like this than a sub

>>15688500
Not really. Typically those are made and marketed to lower class folk who are more drawn to larger flashy watches.

>>15688054
I bought that one but lost it very quickly since it's so tiny.

>>15688459
never heard of Tokyoflash but unconventional watches are always cool even if they dont work out
>>15688416
i saw it on Drop for like $150 or something i cant really remember now
they only had a few models
you can keep an eye on jomashop
but they dont have the new 2020 stuff (yet)

>>15688500
PARNIS has a 36mm datejust homage for $110.. look it up on aliexpress or their website whatever
san martin has a few as well but like all san martin stuff their prices are high ($300? cant remember)

i voted red, you?

>>15688504
oh well. my search continues.

>>15688513
>PARNIS has a 36mm datejust homage for $110
nice thanks anon

>>15688504
>>15688502
The antithetic nature of humanity

>>15688502
if i were rich i'd want to be like producer michael and buy all sorts of BASED garish HH shitters just to make people seethe

>>15688521
>$110 for fake rolex.

>>15688201
There was a guy here who was hired by Rolex to work in their technical design team, or something like that. He posted his offer letter a couple years ago, where he had to relocate to Switzerland and everything. He would post incredible information on every Rolex movement, giving detailed explanations on how every bit and bob worked, how these movements can run for as long as 30 years without servicing, etc.

>>15688513
Is there any reason to buy San Martin over a $100 AE watch?

I feel like if you’re buying a homage you might as well not waste any money pretending it’s anything but a cheap knockoff.

>>15688535
Would be nice to have more of this.

>>15688258
If you’re interested, Orient makes the “M Force” series of automatic divers that are specifically engineered to be shock resistant. The movement is specially fitted to be suspended within the case to mitigate the effect of shock and vibration. Antimagnetism is a plus too. I wear mine for all workouts, hiking, and biking. It’s like a mechanical GShock equivalent

>>15688538
in the echelon of aliexpress brands, San Martin has one of the best manufacturing, and they know they can charge accordingly
also they are one of the few(only?) AE brands to offer ETA/SW200 for some of their higher models. Some of their watches cost like $900

the heirachy is something like san martin = heimdallr >pangani =parnis >guanqin> loreo = cadisen

>>15688516
Ayy

i voted blue

---- late thread stall ----

>>15688474
that federic constant? do they make watches this cheap?

>>15687153
working out doesn't increase wrist size sadly

>>15688577
normally no their watches are like 1-2k
but Drop is a grey vendor and its probably stock from an AD liquidation
its a very good deal desu. Ill post it again in the next thread for visibility for those potentially interested

New
>>15688586
>>15688586
>>15688586

is sinn ever having black friday sales lads
why are they so fucking expensive

>>15688441
Oh shit, the brown dial chronograph is $1000 off. Kinda tempting

>>15688588
German autistic quality

Finally got this one. Had a Rotary Chronospeed for a good while to fill the void, but it just wasn't the same.

>>15688529
Even if I were a multi-billionaire, I'd be hard-pressed to justify spending a million dollars on a watch like that. No doubt a lot of effort and craftsmanship goes into making those sort of watches, but the entire concept of wearing a million dollars on your wrist seems insane to me.

>>15688640
how much was it?

>>15687446
fantastic!
ref?
does it come with a white dial?

>>15688763
Got this one for around 4000. Considering the condition, and considering it was exactly the type I wanted (with gold wings, and black date display), I couldn't resist.

>>15688014
these all look bad. and I'm wearing a citizen right now and am cool with casio, too. just these specific ones look bad.

>>15688054
the baton indices one looks better

>>15688836
That's how taste works

>>15688403
it's a nice presage. warm and comfy

>>15688529
Is Producer Michael a fag?

>>15688195
>>15688172
I'm at least 5 of these at the same time

>>15686593
his uncle was the king of fusili
in a safe he has a hundred paul newton daytonas
also he invented looking at your watch

>>15686692
but is the silver sunray the one to get?
help