/fa/ - Fashion

Great OP Image. I need to get a Safari jacket for summer.

>>15509561
>summer
>jacket
You live in Australia?

>>15509551
Everyone looks like an idiot in suspenders. Especially the people that think they look good. Glad you're smart about that.

Can you not wear suspenders underneath some outwear?

>>15509563
Africa

Busy assembling some requirements for bespoke trousers. Will be posting trouser-related things.

>>15509568
I meant I look like an idiot with a jacket at work. At least that's how I feel. Shirt is fine but jacket seems too much. Maybe I'm wrong.
About suspenders, yeah, those two look ridiculous. I could wear them below a sweater.

>>15509582
What do you do? You can wear suspenders under literally anything that covers them. Even a shirt if it's untucked can hide your suspenders.

Always get kick tape put into your trousers. Heavier is better. Even with no break it helps them drape more cleanly.

>>15509593
Amazing looking pants

Negative breaks anyone? They're great for summer, but everything else has to fit immaculately to make the detail look deliberate.

The correct break of these three.

Curved trouser openings.

This is why belts suck.

>>15509575
What purpose does the V-back serve?
>>15509593
Here too, V-pleat vs. 2-pleat, what is the difference?

>>15509661
I believe those are called boxed pleats

>>15509627
They're all correct it's just a matter of taste.

>>15509593
>>15509661
w2c? Don’t say bespoke

>>15509711
These are all from Common Suits in Singapore. They're the trouser kings. These are extremely expensive bespoke, sorry.

>>15509701
The V-back allows more flexibility on the waistband. All good trousers have it. It's known as an after-dinner split.

Different pleat styles flatter different body types. and have different aesthetics.

I wish I knew where to buy RTW/OTR shirts or pants for a pretty entry level price here in England without the materials being shit but I think it's impossible.

No zips on anything. Having them off your trousers helps them to sit better. It's also hilarious when a girl tries to undo them.

>>15509750
Try https://fieldingandnicholson.com/ .

Their basic MTM should be very good for the price.

>>15509584
Student dormitory reception.
I need to get me some undershirts if I plan to do that but I prefer my shirts to be tucked in. Except maybe for linen.

>>15509752
>It's also hilarious when a girl tries to undo them.
Y-yes haha, hilarious!

Bespoke trouser fitting.

The whole outfit including the shoes were around 150$ total. This is the power of Zara and H&M. The shitty resolution hides the fact that the textures/materials are not even that bad anymore, obviously the weakest link is the shoe but it is still made from leather.
(i've been shopping in these stores for more than 10 years, the materials only started getting better in the last 2 years, at least in my country, western europe or usa might get better shit)

>>15509792
Nice to see more fits posted.

Is that a coat or a jacket? Colour wise there's very little harmony with the items you've got there. Nice work on not clashing two patterns.

Forget the fancy pleats and buttons, at this point I would settle for a decent fitting pair of high waist pants but I can't even find that. I'm tempted to travel south to find a slave labor tailor in Tijuana

>>15509792
I'll show you the real "power" of H&M when I get back home later. Pants never lasted me more than 1 year and they were all uncomfrotable.

>>15509792
It's a coat, the stripes of the shirt might clash with the herringbone of the coat, i am not sure if the latter counts as a pattern.

>>15509827
They don't clash because they're at different scales and contrast differences. The match there is good.

The belt is too vibrant for the jacket, it cuts you in half and stands out completely.

Shoes are much better color, but the style is too casual to balance with the jacket. Swapping to dressier shoes with a darker belt would go a long way to make the fit better.

>>15509791
What are the stitches on the front here?
There's no seam on trousers there, what are those threads for?

>>15509820
The trick was in the last 10 years was to never wash their stuff. Recently they started to carry thicker materials which whitstand machine washing.
Like for a decade their shiny dress shirts looked like garbage immediately after the first wash cycle. (their chinos were also garbage, the raw jeans lost half of their color but atleast they developed custom patterns fast)
I think during manufacturing they died their cheap materials in some kind of shiny wax/grease to make them look better which disappeared after the first wash cycle.

>>15509837
How do you not wash clothes? Am I being rused?

>>15509843
I don't know what he's talking about for the zarashit, but for traditional menswear it's just outwear. It never directly touches your skin, as you've always got a shirt or something underneath.

So you only need to dry clean or steam it every few months.

>>15509845
It still touches your hair and your neck.
Also he responded to my post where I was talking about pants.

>>15509850
Shirt collars? Unless you have crazy long hair it's not going to touch.

>>15509843
You wear them once for a great insta pic then return them to the store.

But for reals there was a meme here to not wash your raw denim jeans which suited these brands and i only rarely wear elegant dress shirts (like twice a year) so i could wash them like twice a year.

>>15509835
More?

>>15509854
You never wear a t-shirt/sweater? Or sportswear or whatever? Hair touch it even with shirts.

>>15509886
I'm only answering from a menswear perspective. I think it looks dumb to wear t-shirts and athleisure stuff with jackets, so no, I don't ever do that.

>>15509863
Bespoke trouser fittings?

Did we ever figure out what the stitching in >>15509791 is for?

>>15509906
Coats, not jackets. I was talking about coats.

These pants look so goddamn good with the continuous waistband.

>>15509912
Ah. No I don't. If it's cold enough to need a coat I'd want something underneath it anyway.

Somehow this is still less tacky than monograms.

>>15509921
Yeah, you can wear a sweater. Which leaves the coat in contact with your neck and hair.

>>15509935
I don't wear sweaters anon. They're basically pyjamas. I'd consider a shawl collar, but they're impossible to find here.

>>15509943
Boxers are my pyjamas.

Cifonelli trousers. Hand pick stitched canvas waistband.

>>15509906
>Did we ever figure out what the stitching in >>15509791 # is for?
The tailor usually folds the fabric in half and draws the pattern on one side. Next he traces the chalk lines with threads in a looping stitch (tailor tacks), this creating two identical pieces. Upon separating the two pieces you cut the loops in the middle, creating these threads that stick out. Here it seems to be a visual aid for the crease line, so that he can check that it sits centrally, is not warped, etc.

>>15509933
Hahahaha oh goddamn that's a great one

>>15509977
Wonderful. Thank you anon of great wisdom.

Are there any other suggestions you would have for bespoke trouser options?

Peluso suits aren't that expensive. 3,700 euros for "very good fabrics." That's cheaper than the tailor I use in nyc. I might have to start meeting him when he comes to the states.

As we try to determine ideal proportions for trousers, This was really interesting to see.

>>15509540
Wore a similar fit because it was cool enough for a tie.

>>15510383
Great fit.

Love the no-belt trousers and the colour/pattern matching on the jacket, shirt and tie is great.

Clean.

>>15510878
What's with the gay filters and text?

>>15509792
Jeans are hideous

>>15509792
Here's my biggest issues with your fit
Your coat is too short, it's in this awful no-man's-land between jacket and coat which just doesn't look good. The lapels and collar are also a bit slim.
Your belt stands out too much and clashes with basically everything.
The top half and bottom half of your outfit are too far apart in terms of casual/formal. Try different shoes and again different belt.
Your jeans are a bit slim which makes your boots look a bit big in a goofy way, slim pants also never look good with coats because of the width difference.

>>15509886
You're supposed to wear a shirt(with a collar) under your sweater, t-shirts aren't really for layering.

>>15503487
Here. What do you think of this outfit that I found while browsing? Obviously I already own very similar items, mostly I'm worried about the belt.

>>15510964
https://twitter.com/kent_suits

>>15511582
That's a pretty weird fashion account, anon

Busy day, so just a cellphone pic

>>15509540
>>15509593
>>15509644
>>15509661
>>15509835

I have never seen those pants side-adjusters before. I understand some of these pics are from Common suits but how common is that ? New trend ? How "adjustable" is that even ?

I had Indochino make me 2 suits before and since they are by far my best-fitting clothes I'm thinking of ordering some chino plants from them.

>>15511860
Very nice and lol, is that the "this is fine" dog thing in which the house is burning down pin?

>>15511888
Yes it’s that. Today is going to be long and crazy.

>>15511900
Lol isn't that pin basically white people in SA? Do people comment on the pins? Is it some form of peacocking? Never thought to try it

>>15511882
I post them all the time.

Mine (not from commonsuits) Don’t adjust at all. This is fine because they’re perfectly fitted (Bespoke) and sit above the hips.

>>15511908
Expressing my political opinions offers no benefits given the political/social situation in SA. Let's stay on the topic of fashion.

All clothes are peacocking whether we admit it or not. You don't always need one, but sometimes it can be a useful accessory. Just treat it like you would a small pocket square. Both serve to add an extra dash of colour. In this case I'm using it to dress down the very formal charcoal jacket.

>>15511561
Not him
It looks a bit too try hard. Too many things to catch attention. It shows the wearer is consciously trying to make others aware of him, 'hey look at me'.
I'd ditch or tone down either the scarf or the pocket square. One patterned, one muted and simple. Those shoes are hideous as well. Simple loafers would look much better.

>>15511926
The pin CAN be deemed political; that's my point. You're expressing visually, just not vocally. Hence my question regrading it. It's a conversation opener, but a political one. Or at least it could be a subtle nod towards that for those that understand the meme.

Fashion can be peacocking, yes. A basic outfit not so much. Everyone is a basic bird, it's those that add extra items or have a well fitted piece that is the act of enabling the rich plume feathers for others to see.

>>15511926

>>15511940
Yes, I wanted to wear ordinary black shoes, shirt, pants, jacket and the belt. Maybe a tie, but not necessarily, the belt is already flashy enough.

>>15511945
Hurr do not talk to the tripfag who is actually asking questions regarding the importance/ and or usage of accessories

>just talk to teenage boys who couldn't get laid in a brothel with a grand in their pocket

Good one, incel.

>>15511946
Seems like that would be alright. Personally I'm not a big fan of black and brown/tan but it can work depending on the shades. What you describe would be pretty simple, not bad looking just simple. An accessory to add a splash of color wouldn't hurt at all, just not too many as in the pic. Tie and pocket square are almost always a great combination

>>15511943
I have far more political pins, this is not one of them.

>>15511966
>it came to fame via a tweet by the gop
>this is not political

Lol. The original image isn't, no. But the association is still there.

I await the pepe pins on the next fit.

Seeing the posts about suspenders, shouldn't suspenders be ever so slightly taut when standing up, so that your trousers are actually suspended, pleats closed and creases sharp?
I've seen several people from the industry wear them with a bit of a slack when standing up.

>>15511987
Your pants should suspend from them. Some might even consider this the origin of their name. Some people wear them for aesthetics, which is why you might see that.

>>15511990
>Your pants should suspend from them.
Yeah, that's incredibly comfortable and I wear them that way. The suspenders' silhouette tends to show ever so slightly even from under my jackets, though, so it's an occasional thing for me.

Shoes have arrived. Some obvious flaws but overall I'm happy for now.

Should I cream and wax them before wearing them?

I notice most of you wearing shoes. Any boot styles you'd recommend as a substitute?

I can't wear shoes because it is hard to fit my shoe lifts in them so it's boots only.

>>15512108
Those look good. Try to wear your socks a bit higher for a sleeker ankle. Wouldn't bother with the pre-prep on anything but suede.

>>15512117
I have no idea what you're talking about but those are not dress socks, they're shorter because fuck below knee socks. They're wool, not cotton.

>>15511993
Are your jackets full canvas? I'd imagine a full canvas would keep it's shape more

>>15512115
You can look at dress boots. These ones are from cobbler union.

>>15512134
The socks aren't suitable, anon. With a narrow last you want sleek socks.

>>15512108
These look almost new. Tighten up those laces though. The advantage of the oxford show is that it hides the laces underneath

>>15512153
Hmm yes, that looks good. I want to at times wear shoes but I need my lifts to push me over 6ft.

>>15512173
I won't say don't do it because those dress boots are amazing, but make sure you're not falling for 4chan memes. Height is a minuscule factor out of the ones that govern attraction.

>>15512160
They are new. Haha, what do you mean almost?
>>15512153
With sleek you mean fine fabric?

>>15512187
I'm 5ft 11 and 3 quarters so I use 2 inch lifts to be around 6'1". I know at my original height it doesn't play that much of a role but say a 5'4" guy in a suit, I just don't think that will attract.

Now the real question is, how do I ride a motorcycle with dress shoes? They're incredibly slippery.

>>15512192
You want the socks to conform to your ankles/calves so that you have a clean ankle line with no wrinkles.

The thickness of the fabric isn't super relevant here.

>>15512195
>and 3 quarters
Am I being trolled? or is this >height complex, the post
There is literally nothing wrong with that height, anon. If anything it's probably a bit above average. On an objective level you probably look worse in lifts/boots than you do without them. Most dress shoes have a slight heel and that's plenty.

Your framing is all wrong. Your height is what it is lmao, and there's objectively nothing wrong with it. Learn to deal with the shit testing, because if it's not your height it'll be something else. Most girls are shorter than you. The classic: "Aren't you a bit short?"

>"Yeah, gotta fix it when I have kids. Pity I can only date taller girls."
>"You're right. Want to go heel shopping with me?"

>>15512192
Small scuff on the left that should come out easy but then again I'm a shoe nazi, I polish my shoes after every wear. I hope you have a shoe trees and leather conditioner. I personally like to mirror shine some of my shoes

>>15512230
Will you polish my shoes anon?

Just noticed that my shirts came with a second button hole, so I could cut those buttons off and use cuff links.
Wouldn't it look strange without a French cuff, though?

>>15512233
>he doesn't spend an hour caring for his shoes
I thought it was a menswear gimmick but it's relaxing as fuck to do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNtxVXg9-08

>>15512225
No I am being serious lol. I know I am not short and a little over average, in fact taller than most of the group of my friends. I just get hung up about the 6'2" meme height.

Yeah I was seeing some 5'8" girl who would be like omg if you were just 2 inches taller. She was super hot but had mental issues. So I either failed the shit tests but didn't care as I got out. Crazy girl.

I know shit tests are generally a good sign of interest so if she is shit testing your height she is interested anyway.

>>15512230
I have the cream and the wax (and the trees), should I use the cream before wearing them the first time?
>>15512225
Eh, I'll try to raise them more but I had the ankle at a angle there, that's where wrinkles come from.

>>15512248
Barrel cuffs are fine. Don't go for cufflinks unless you need.

>>15512263
More to my post, I think it's because I get tired of going through tinder with the same female shit: Love tall guys. Want to meet tall guys. I'm 5'6" but like big heels sow ant to meet tall guys.

I even see women 5'2" want to meet tall guys. Sure most of that is bullshit because at a bar it's never an issue, even with girls around 5'10". Just the constant crap online from women gets jarring after a while.

>>15512195
>>15512263
Man this is pathetic. You have to stop letting others determine your self-worth. You are above average virtually everywhere on Earth possibly barring a couple Scandinavian and Yugoslav countries.
Don't bother replying. Until you sort out your self-esteem and height issues you will not be happy, not in lifts, not with moon boots, not with anything. You need help.

>>15512271
>doctor it hurts when I do this
Stop looking for women online. Nothing good comes from Tinder. You are intentionally fucking your own mind.

>>15512265
Ideally you should use a leather conditioner first since they've probably been sitting in storage and the leather could use moisturizing. Shoe cream is similar it also moisturizes but it's normally used to add color so just make sure to spot test first

>>15512271
Tinder is unapologetic hypergamy with selection done entirlely through visuals. the top top % of men are the only ones getting matches, and we can juggle upwards of 5 dates in a day, and this has nothing to do with height.

>>15512286
tips to be in top %.

>>15512268
How so?

>>15512294
Marketing, anon. Women have thousands of years of evolution to respond to specific visual stimuli. Learn every social media bullshit angle trick and avoid all of the common pitfalls.

Learn what women like about you and emphasize those characteristics. Also learn how to position yourself into some kind of niche you can monopolize. If you've got stoner-sexy long hair, tattoos, and wear flannel you're going to be targeting very different girls to a jacked clean cut classic alpha, and your profile should reflect that.

But fuck doing any of this. You should have better shit to do as a man than waste time chasing pussy, and nothing is more attractive than a man with an unyielding drive to achieve his goals.

Earn the respect of your fellow men and the women will follow in the thousands.

>>15512263
>>15512271
I'm 5'8 lol.

>>15512383
Who are you though

>>15512388
A manlet, why?

>>15512390
Because are you saying "I'm 5'8" and it hasn't been an issue for me..." Or are you saying you're 5'8" and it has? Makes all the difference.

My fit from today.

>>15512395
The only issue I had in life was having shit parents, everything else could either be solved or dealt with. I'm still recovering.
The way I see it being a manlet isn't an issue in and of itself, it's just something that burdens a weak mind more. So the solution is easy: don't have a weal mind. But that isn't the solution for being a manlet, it's the general objective of every person, so take that as you will.

>>15512400
That jacket fits extremely well on the shoulders, but it looks very unfinished. Hacking pockets are a great choice there. If you're getting it fitted and have the chance to do so, you'd benefit from a much lower button stance.

>>15512400
>>15512410

Speaking of buttons, does nobody here at all like the 3 button jackets? Yes I know they are not as popular or can seem outdated. I thought they were supposed to look better on guys in shape. I really prefer them.

>>15512400
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1z4JfxFb6c

>>15512429
I prefer them as well, but I am also in shape.

How's the fit?

I know, I need to iron the pants.

>>15512440
I might be a curvy lad but I'l still clobber you one! Get done!

Anyone had chinos from Scotch & Soda? What is the quality like? And do they stretch like 2-3 sizes in the waist, after wearing them once?

>>15512448
Nice shoes.

Do your cuffs up or roll them up. It looks a bit too deliberate that way. The belt totally cuts you in half, and the pants are so low rise your torso looks too long.

>>15512456
You still haven't answered. Where did your buttons go?

>>15512458
From a suiting perspective, Scotch and Soda construction/quality is bad.

>>15512462
I ate them, was hungry. Do one or get a clobberin

>>15512469
Not him who's asking.

>>15512475
Look you wanna get a right clobberin?? you going the right way bout it

>>15512484
I'm going to buy out your favourite burger chains and close them.

>>15512400
Looking great there! What's with the sleeves, was this from a fitting? There is a long thread visible where the lining attaches to the cuffs

>>15512429
I have one, also in shape

>>15512400
>>15512410
>>15512440
>>15512456
>>15512469
>>15512475
>>15512484
>>15512516
It's a troll.

>>15512268
So why should I not use cufflinks, or when do I need to use them? I just want to

>>15512516
Thought it looked gud, different

>>15512283
When you say leather conditioner you mean something like pic related? Which one should I buy from Saphir? I can't understand. Or there's like Bick 4 too I believe.
>>15512462
Shouldn't the belt match the shoes? What color do you propose with this outfit? A lighter brown?
Keep in mind the mirror distors, the pants are low but my torso is a lot shorter than my legs so I'd say it's not a bad thing.

>>15512548
The belt looks like a nice belt and the colour matching is fine. The issue is the contrast is extremely high and it's chopping you in half. I would try a canvas belt with that.

>>15512548
Renovateur has worked great for me. It is a conditioner. There are two versions, the regular in the blue box as you posted and the medaille d'or. i use the regular. Read that they have slightly different compositions.
Good conditioner has compounds that rejuvenate and refresh leather, particularly mink oil. You can see the mink at the bottom of the blue box. they essentially emulate the natural oils that animals secrete to keep their skin from drying out.
Don't over-condition. You will know when they need it, leather tends to look rather dry, dusty and thirsty. Depends on wear and climate of course but I typically condition twice a year.

>>15512614
Thanks a lot for the info.
Right now I only have the brown cream and the wax by Famaco I got together with the shoes from Meermin. Might try the cream on the back tomorrow or maybe I'll get the conditioner before that.
>>15512572
Unfortunately I only have this belt or a shittier one that goes with these shoes.

>>15512665
Best part about canvas belts is they're cheap as fuck due to minimal leather use. They're super versatile in summer as a way to dress down more formal pieces and introduce better colour matching.

Imagine this with your outfit for instance.

>>15512414
More images like this please

>>15512688
Define "cheap". I paid €45 for the Meermin belt I'm wearing. I might buy the one you posted and a blue version if they're around €20. Are they by Whoolworths?

Would a belt like that look good also with blue jeans or does the white clash?

>>15512719
I mean fucking cheap. The one I posted is 6 EUR on sale, probably 10-15 EUR at full price. They're incredibly inexpensive.

This won't be helpful because it's from a nowhere country. https://www.woolworths.co.za/prod/Men/Accessories/Belts-Bags-Wallets/Trenery-Cotton-Leather-Wilkins-Belt/_/A-503899846

You can get them in all sorts of colours too. Grab a blue one for jeans.

Comments?

>>15512730
Great fit. Would drink in Havanna with. The cuff is a bit too much, as that's nearly impossible to have happen unintentionally without functional cuffs on your suit jacket.

>>15512727
No, I mean, would the white band clash with another color of pants? Let's say I'm wearing crimson shorts and blue sneakers and I wear that or this belt, would the white bands clash with the crimson pants?

>>15512730
I think you are doing too many "sprezzatura" things at once, but the outfit itself is good. Not sure if the belt sticking out was on purpose

>>15512749
Yes, like you aren't going to wear a tan belt with a black suit, these too will have outfit constraint limitations. For more feedback you need to post examples so we can comment.

>>15512766
I have a hard time understanding when a belt divides an outfit in two.

Also I was wondering what belt color do you match white sneakers with? A cream, khaki or light brown belt?

>>15512793
The goal of menswear is to build up the figure. This means making you look taller. When the contrast is too high between the belt and the rest it chops you, so go for more close matches to either the shirt or the belt. Easiest low effort fix is to skip the belt. If your trousers fit you don’t need it. I don’t wear sneakers, but canvas with an accent colour is good. Doesn’t have to match in that case.

See >>15509667

>>15512730
Color pallete isn't great. Would look better if you had a tan + were built like this look is intended

>>15512793
The belt always divides the outfit in two, because it is a horizontal line with a contrasting color. Maybe not if it is the same color as your trousers.

I think for white sneakers you should skip the belt.

>>15512827
>>15512821
I understand what you're saying but personally I like the line belts draw exactly because it draws attention away from the lack of continuity between pants and shirts. Even with a black suit and belt you have the buckle drawing attention.
It's like a watch. Faggots say a watch shouldn't be visible under a suit but I say fuck them, I would wear the Chronometre Blue loose just so it would always slide out and be visible.
Not that I will ever wear a suit or own a Journe.

Also why the fuck make the rule the belt has to match your shoes if matching the pants or shirt would allow to respect the contrast rule? Seems retarded.

Thoughts on pleated wool pants with a long sleeve polo? Are they too formal for it? I'm getting a real hard on for pleated pants now but I like long sleeve polos too.

Pants, polo tucked in, no belt and blazer

>>15512902
Just try it, sounds unique

>>15512906
I just image searched ops pic and found some China site with other fits and say this pic there. I believe they're wearing polos and one has pleated pants.

>>15512865
This is why belts in general suck. There's no good answer to your questions without skipping them to begin with. In your black suit example it's still not cutting you in half. Most of the time with a proper rise and correct proportions you'd never see the buckle anyway as it's going to be part of the triangle of death.

Watches are different because they visually add a break on the cuff. Not that you should see anything but the faintest hint of them.

>>15512981
If I had to wear a suit I'd make my left cuff and jacket shorter than the right just to show off my watch :^)

>>15513045
NOTE THE BELT.

>>15513049
If Gianni Agneli can do it, I can do it too.

>>15513052
Misguided based

>>15512981
How you like that nomos? Orion looks good but I personally want a ludwig or tetra.

>>15513060
This is the anthracite orion. Dark face leads to a nice momentum on the wrist. Tetra is feminine, Ludwig is a bit virgin/larpy, but wear whatever makes you happy. Zurich world time is also outstanding if you want a bigger case.

>>15513049
Here's a note for you, too: His jeans have a mid rise and the belt has a double contrast, so it appears slimmer than it is. It also appears to "draw in" his waist, masking his belly.
The other anon has more knowledge about these lines, please correct me if necessary.

>>15513075
I genuinely don't think Agnalli cared at all when he wore that. Just chose blueish canvas belt, blueish pants bluish shirt bluish watch. Which is why it works so well. It's apex sprezz

>>15512732
Thank you, and i followed your suggestion of removing the cuffs.
>>15512753
Other then the cuffs i don't think i did too much sprezzatura, and keep in mind i live in a very hot place,
>>15512822
I built this fit around the trousers, maybe a blue jacket would have been better but i didn't have one that really fit the rest. About the tan that would mean me getting outside during the day, and the picture i've taken makes me look slimmer then i actually am.

>>15513375
The colours are fine. What they missed is the very warm washed out camera effect that happened.

>>15513471
Yes, i'm a terrible photographer

>>15513375
>Shirt cuffs over sleeves
>Many buttons on the shirt undone
>Pocket square all over the place
>Belt end sticking out over the jacket
The combination of these made me think instantly that you are trying too hard.
Cuff was already solved. Buttons are a matter of climate as you said. The pocket square is a matter of personal taste, too. The belt is there just momentarily while your hand is in your trousers, so in the end it will be fine. Just the first impression for me was "oh, lets see how many sloppy things I can fit in there"

>>15512248
That's a convertible cuff, can be used with links but purists don't really approve. The buttons don't have to be cut off aa they stay on the inner side of your wrist and won't really be seen if used with links.

>>15514182
Looks like I am a purist, too. I'd like either cufflinks or buttons, but having buttons on the inside with a cufflink looks really strange imo.

JACKET SLEEVES TOO LONG.

>>15514807
>that button hole thread and scarf
exquisite

>>15509540
You should add Carlos Castillo from Man 1924

>>15509540
Imagine dressing like you're 83 years old when, in fact, you're 18?
Who are you trying to impress?
Because they probably died already.

>>15515044
Imagine thinking dressing is to impress other people.

>>15515028
This is why you should dry clean linen

>>15515044
>you're 18
Projection and false.
Post pic of your best fit with a timestamp

>>15513067
Cool. I can see why people think the tetra is feminine but I like small square watches. Not sure what's Larry about the ludwig tho - silvered dial, blues hands, Roman numerals, and a railroad index track is fairly standard for a dress watch.

>>15515263
It's TOO traditional for a watch company with relatively little heritage.

If you want that style, you should get a different brand.

>>15515061
>Imagine thinking dressing is to impress other people.
Imagine thinking it's not!

>>15509943
The fuck?

>>15515044
But I'm 33 and I dress how I like.

>>15515465
>33

>>15515361
Explain

Nomos is fine, at the very least they do their movements in-house but I find their watches extremely boring.
You can spend less and get a very nice vintage gold plated Zenith or Omega dress watch from the 50s or 60s that will make you look like you're loaded instead of a German autist who plays Forklift Simulator 2015 in his free time.

>>15515470
I'm sorry, I don't understand the meme.

>>15515489
MAN ON THE FUKKEN MOON

>>15515494
Absolutely no, don't waste your money on that crap for manchildren and middle aged men in existential crysis. At least get an El Primero if you wanna larp.

>>15515512
based

>>15515493
33 is a number that israelis use to let other israelis know they are working undercover and to back off and let them act the fool

>>15515557
The more you know.

>>15514807
Very nice. I have a jacket like that. Grey with some blue in the threads.

Anyone interested in following the process of making a pair of trousers?

>>15517862
Maybe but I think making alterations to trousers such as altering the length or taking them in slightly is more interesting for most people as it's something that they could do.

>>15512448
onions-tier shirt

>>15509972
>Cifonelli trousers
I am so jealous, anon. That's awesome. My dream in life is to get a suit made by them.
How much do they charge? What can I expect if I get something from them?

>>15512448
This whole fit is a disaster

>>15512865
Why do you have to post my dream watch and remind me that I'm poor and will never own it! Damn you

>>15515044
Who the hell is dressing for other people. You guys don't really do that, do you? Dress for yourself. Holy shit

>>15517862
Absolutely!

>>15518083
What's soi about it?
>>15518089
How do I make it better? What are the worst parts?

>>15518093
And I'll never own an Eichi. In another life, bro. I'll get by with my trusty sarb033 in this one.

>>15518101
Ah, that's the pattern you asked about recently. On your photo it looks a lot brighter and larger than I expected, I like it actually.

Also, it's not soi.

>>15512448
I'd have 1 button instead of 2 open. Either put your shirts sleeves down or roll them up. Your pants are way too skinny for my liking, they make your feet look big.

I just think the look needs more balance.

Repp stripes, VBC Rustic Tropico and Berwick adelaides.
I'm leaning forward, so that's why the hip area is wrinkled fyi

>>15518133
This tie ends up with a nice double dimple every single time.

>>15518133
>>15518141
Very nice, thought you were the SA guy, are you? You have a beard and he doesn't. Confused.

>>15515044
How old is this thread on average?

29 here

>>15518154
Thanks!
We're two different posters indeed. I've never left the northern hemisphere lmao

>>15518124
Yes, the picture was shit.
>>15518126
About the sleeves, other people already said that and I know it looks like shit but I chose to leave them like that because it's more comfortable and doesn't wrinkle as much. On something like linen I roll them up.
When I bought the pants I was skinnier, I put on some muscles again lately, I like pants with more room.
I noticed the big shoes thing.

>>15518190
Ohh, I assumed it was him because you seem to be immaculate in your fittings. Very rare quality.

>>15518198
>but I chose to leave them like that because it's more comfortable

That's the argument for a lot of things, comfort vs fit. You either lose a bit of the comfort for the fit and looking better or you lose the look for the comfort.

It can make the wrist area look larger than the shoulder/top of the arms and hence leaves it a bit unbalanced.

>When I bought the pants I was skinnier, I put on some muscles again lately, I like pants with more room.

Fair, speaking of comfort, they do not look comfy being tight. Wider more loose fit pants will again balance out the shoes imo.

>>15518203
There were like 3 people at work that day and I believe none of them got to see my arms. I'll make a sacrifice when it's meaningful. There's also an observation to make, though, being comfortable raises confidence as much as looking good.

The hips are extremely comfortable, they are by far the most comfortable pants I've ever owned in my life when it comes to legs-hips/waist ratio. A size more would be better know, I believe. Too bad they have shit pockets, can't even put a phone in while riding the bike.

>>15518213
Then just roll them up for a photo here and then put them back down lol.

Yes, I feel awkward being uncomfortable in clothes. I guess the tricks is to find more peaces that can be worn in the way that makes them look best and be comfortable. As if the case for linen in your situation, I would assume.

I actually prefer tapered legs rather than straight all the way to the bottom, room at the hips but more fitting around the ankles but that's mainly so more shoe shows when having feet on the smaller size. Again it's about balance for me.

>>15518181
30 here

>>15518154
Filtered

Some Harris Tweed arrived today. Looking to get an overcoat out of this. Would love some inspo.

whelp

>>15515299
Agree to disagree. It still looks plenty modern to me :)

>>15518342
Since when do you show your face?

>>15518439
The focus should be on the clothes, but in this case the glasses are relevant to the fit.

>>15518510
Okay, makes sense. The quality is good as always, just the lapels are too high or the photographer used an upward angle: the lapels breaking the shoulder line confused me a little.
Very unique, though!

>>15518580
You’re right about both. Photographer is tiny but it’s also a high gorge and 9.5cm lapels. They shouldn’t be breaking the shoulder line from a normal view.

>>15518133
>>15518141
This is a wonderful tie and colour combination. Lovely anon.

Second fabric cop. Burgundy, also a Harris Tweed.

I have no idea what to make with this.

>>15518606
This could become a jacket/short coat for fall. I like summer jackets in this color, too, with light colored trousers, but the tweed sorta contradicts that.
Wasn't there an outfit that I suggested a burgundy jacket for?

>>15518606
I forgot to ask: how much do you have of each fabric?

>>15518644
>>15518633
I bought them. I'll take them to a tailor to have some bespoke items crafted. 3.5m of the houndstooth, 2.85 of the midnight red.

I probably have enough for a 2piece suit, but it's such a dramatic piece of cloth I don't feel as though I'd be doing it justice. It works wonderfully at night. Here it is against the charcoal grey suit jacket I was wearing today. It's such an intense and rich colour it's difficult to capture on camera. This one was taken with a real camera and graded correctly.

>>15518674
The houndstooth could actually make a three piece suit, the other one could become a coat and waistcoat.
I agree that it looks pretty colorful. How thick/heavy are these? I have some tweed samples at home, but they look too heavy and stiff for trousers, compared to the lighter Italian wool cloths.

>>15518770
They’re heavy. Proper Harris tweed in like 400 gsm. The weave is very coarse so a lot thicker/warmer than an equivalent grammage in a normal worsted Italian.

Welp, I fucked up my new shoes with wax. Tried brushing and putting on some color cream to cover it up but it's still visible. Can I fix this (without acetone)?

This pisses me off because I've been super careful and I did my research but no one told me you can't leave wax on a spot even for a second. Other than that they turned out pretty well, I obviously didn't even try to mirror shine them.

>>15519033
What are you even doing anon

Just do it to the rest of the shoes as well.

>>15519091
I put the wax on that spot before spreading it around, I have no clue what happened but I started spreading it like 2 seconds later and I noticed there was a stain on the spot where I put the wax. I didn't put that much wax either but maybe it was still too much or 2 second is too long.
No way I'm even trying to do what you suggest.

>>15519099
You put it on a cloth first and then spread evenly using that cloth.

>>15519113
Yes, that's what I did, I put it on a cloth on my fingers and put the cloth on that spot before spreading it. I swear to god I didn't do anything strange.

>>15519118
YOU DUN GOOF’D.

Leave it and see if it dries back to normal. If not do the rest of the shoe.

>>15519124
I already did the rest of the shoes and they turned out just fine, as you can see from the pictures. It's only that fucking spot.

>>15519130
If you are out on the street it would just come off as a hue in the patina I guess. Without your circle I wouldn't even have noticed that spot as something unusual.

>>15509540
SEXcore with extra steps

inb4 some faggot says it looks like sexcore because the model is attractive.

>>15519311
Completely wrong.

/sprezz/ is about nohomo menswear miring.

Can I ask here about glasses or should I make a thread? There wasn't any glasses thread before.

>>15519516
Ask.

>>15519535
Face shape. Can I pull these Persol off? I love the pair on the left. I might even get them as regular glasses.

>>15519544
You have an aesthetic face shape, congratulations. Do not get anything with prominent endpieces as it's going to completely fuck your perspective. You want spherical lenses to balance our your oval face.

>>15519553
Too bad my broken nose and troglodyte hair fuck it up. Note that my face is a bit narrower in the middle, in the eyes and ears zone.

So it's a yes for both? Both endpieces are like this. Also is color important at all?

>>15519590
No, those glasses are completely wrong. They're going to elongate your face because they're not rounded. You need spherical lenses with no 'horns' on the sides. Pic related is what you do not want.

Look at how much better this shape is on that head type.

>>15519606
No, please, everything but the aviators! I forgot something vital, I must get glasses that I can wear with the motorcycle helmet. I tried lenses but they dry too fast and I can't keep my eyes open.
Can I really not wear something like this?

>>15519618
Those almost work because they're absolutely tiny (even the edges are narrower than the width of his face.) he's also a bit less tall vertically than the earlier example, but only slightly. His hair is also screwing with your perception of this here.

Aviators are arguably the best shape for lots of airflow in the face. The high coverage and rounded edges helps minimize airflow and drying. Embrace the asshole-glasses anon.

>>15519638
I won't even be able to put the aviators on with the helmet, they just don't fit and the temples will bend or break. I certainly won't get those as eyeglasses.
And even for sunglasses I'd rather not have frying pans on my face. I can't believe that's the only option, isn't there anything smaller?

>>15519683
Your eyes are going to dry out like all fuck anon, I can tell you from experience. Also low coverage means really bad glare. Can you not just wear a tinted or photochromic helmet visor?

If you really do have to meme, go with some perfectly round small glasses with dark lenses that exactly cover your eyes and nothing more. Japanese brands often carry interesting ones in this style.

>>15519701
No, anon, you got it wrong, I've already used glasses on the bike even for long travels (500km) and I have no problem with them, they're just half broken and most importantly they have no anti reflex coating and I can't ride after sunset. I have a tinted visor, I was talking about eyeglasses in this case.
Theoretically I need both eyeglasses and sunglasses.
>If you really do have to meme, go with some perfectly round small glasses with dark lenses that exactly cover your eyes and nothing more.
But why not a small size of the first round ones, then?

>>15519794
You posted sunglasses anon. How are we supposed to know you're talking about eyeglasses?

Either way, the exact same thing applies: Your face is oval shaped with a squared jaw. This is an ideal face shape, and you do not want to break up the lines of that in any way. The glasses you want suck because:
- By moving the edges to the top they mess up the proportions of your face. It makes your jaw look longer. This is why it sort of works on >>15519618 because he has a shorter face than pitt. Pic related shows a proper glasses fit and how they sit on the vertical centerline for this guy.
- They mess with the sides of your face. They take what is currently a very aesthetic flat line and minimize the cheekbones by bending the straight side edges of your face outwards. This is the same reason sideburns wouldn't work on you. You do not want to compromise that line and the glasses do exactly that.

For eyeglasses, try small round metal frames.

>>15519854
I know it's unrelated but do you think I'd look good with mustache and goatee (or just the part below the lip)? I've been starting to toy with the idea later. I figure that's also related to the shape of the face.

>>15519897
Yes, but do at least the mustache, without that it looks strange

>>15511882
Technically speaking, none of those are side adjusters, Anon's just mislabeled them (side adjusters are one on each side and separate from the trouser closure). The thing in the images is called a "Gurkha closure" because it was used on Gurkha military trousers, and they've become a bespoke trend recently. They're going to look dated way before the trousers wear out, I'm afraid, much like double monks look like yesterday's news right now.

>>15512230
>I polish my shoes after every wear.
You know this isn't actually good for them, right?

>>15512230
I-is this you?

Another odd jacket. Only later I realized that the tone of the pants does not go well with the rest.

>>15521263
This WILL be me in 4 years.
>>15521422
I like the tie but the jacket is not exactly to my liking; the gorge is very high and the pocket flaps are too low. Has the jacket been shortened? The fit would probably look better with a pair of trousers with a crease.

>>15521422
Lovely to see more fits posted. Nice jacket.

Good parts:
>nice jacket fabric
>nice tie
>congratulations on not wearing a button down.

Tips:
> use a four in hand or oriental knot with a knit tie. They're really thick so you have to go with a tiny knot. Also don't be afraid of pulling it very tight as the fabric has a lot of stretch/play. It'll look way more proportionate if you do that.

>3roll2 is cool, but you need to get that lapel rolled considerably lower. The buttoning point is too high at the moment still. You can do this with some hand massaging while you watch something.

>overall the jacket is a bit too big there, even for a trad drapey fit. If alterations are on the table, getting those sleeves tightened up and some waist suppression would be good. Just make sure it's worth the cost of saving it given the slightly too big shoulders.

>keep your stuff in your jacket, not your trouser pockets.

>>15521422
>>15521451
The jacket is a real zombie, actually. It was made from a coat that turned out too small and some scrap fabric from the same batch that the coat was made of.
Some details:
>Pocket flaps were already in place from the coat
>No welt pocket
>Jacket cuffs without any buttons whatsoever
>No front or side darts, the side attaches directly to the back, this causes the boxy fit
>Central vent
>Half lined
The higher gorge was actually an experiment

>3roll2
The jacket is not designed to hide the third button, so the better option is to just button it then and leave the last button undone? The lapel is stitched so that the roll begins just above the top button, so the canvas should return back to this position.

Doing some waist suppression by adding a dart should be doable, but does it not mess with the fabric pattern?
Regarding the sleeve tightness, do you mean the shoulder width? The sleeves have about 4 or 5cm play at the upper arm.

>keep your stuff in your jacket, not your trouser pockets.
Noted, also I'll try out those other tie knots.

>congratulations on not wearing a button down.
Thanks! Who does that anyway?

>>15521263
Is there asmr of a big tiddied girl with a huge cleavage polishing shoes to a mirror shine whispering in a mic once in a while? I'm not really into asian twinks, bald burgers or middle aged bongs.

>>15521422
This jacket is real weird. No breast pocket?

>>15521450
>Has the jacket been shortened?
It must have been, or the sleeves wouldn't be even with the hem either. It looks real strange all told, shame because the fabric seems really good.

>>15509832
Those are marking threads, also known as "tailor's tacks". The tailor puts them into the fabric to mark the crease line (and other important points) during construction. They are removed in the final stage of production.

>>15519618
>glasses with motorcycle helmet
Any good helmet comes with shades nowadays.

>>15509843
Shirts you do need to wash, although you can get away with washing them less if you wear an undershirt.

Suits genuinely almost never need to be cleaned, and certainly they should never be 'washed' (shudder...) You can get away with dry-cleaning a suit maybe once a year, even the trousers if you always wear clean underwear. I have suits which I have owned for literally years and worn multiple times per week for work which I have NEVER had cleaned, and they don't smell bad at all. Nobody would ever know.

>>15522016
I forgot to mention: this is all particularly true if your suits are made from wool, which is naturally antibacterial and odour-resistant. Wool socks for example do not develop the odours of synthetic socks.

>>15522001
Eyeglasses.

Helmets with shades that come down aren't as secure as helmets with an integral shell so you better get used to swap between a shaded and a clear visor.

>>15521973
See my explanation in the post >>15521520
Not shortened though, it was a lack of material

>>15521422
Where did you get the jacket? It looks home-made to me (I don't mean that in a bad way).

>>15522529
Yes, it's homemade. Originally I did a coat and it had just been lying around unfinished for a little over 7 years and I had a commercial pattern that I used for another jacket. Here I wanted to create a coat-like jacket, hence longer sleeves and three buttons with higher lapels.
It strikes me as really odd that the sleeves and hem line up: The other jacket turned out too short, sleeves reach slightly over the wrist, the quarters end at the knuckle of my thumb.
So for this jacket I kept the sleeve length but added 6cm to the hem, so it should be noticeably longer.
Anyway, the commercial pattern for various reasons is not the way to go, so I got me instructions how to construct the pattern from actual measurements and studied how to apply the proper hand sewing techniques.

>chelsea boots
Wasn't sure about the pink, but it seems to work pretty well with the grey.

>>15523399
Wish I had the time for this. Sounds like a fun hobby.

>>15523514
Yes, it also tones in nicely with the tie. How is the pocket opening on your pants worked? In some older books I saw that they used piping in the front pockets, too. That was really interesting.

It is certainly fun doing this, but until you master the skill you end up with lots of not quite right looking clothes. The hard part is forgetting about every spot that is not quite like you imagined it to be.
It's also really addictive, I mean I already have ideas for about 5 suits and 5 other items that I want to make, but it takes so long to actually finish them.

>>15509540
Hahahha

>>15518342
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU-TZiVVaTE

>mediterranean
get a hold of yourselves

>>15524953
>and Menswear General

Is grey and brown a thing? Brown upper and grey bottoms look really odd, but I’m curious how a grey upper with a brown bottom would look. Makes me imagine the colors of the uniform of a river sailor/marineer.

>>15525887
I've seen menswear blogs hail Brown sport coat/grey pants as the most timeless outfit. I haven't seen it work IRL though. I think you could pull off the reverse with a dark gray and a light brown pant

>>15525887
Dark gray and dark brown would go well together desu

>>15524696
based

what is this button configuration sorcery

Thanks anon who suggested it, it was what I was looking for

If you're too scared of posting fits, at least post clothes so we can come up with fits for you to try.

>>15526303
Welcome to the non-autistic /tip/.

>>15515061
What other purpose does it have?
>>15515044
You are correct in saying that people should dress their age. It is just unfortunate that young fashion is so shit these days that simply looking smart makes a young person look like they are LARPing as a boomer. If we can bring back smart dressing into the mainstream of youth, perhaps this will not be the case. Whether that is possible is a different question

>>15527040
If it was mainstream we probably wouldn't be nearly as invested in it.

>>15526289
Nipple buttons are in this year

It's cold and rainy. Borderline dark academia to fit the weather.

Boots would have been better than the loafers here.

>>15527976
I forget that it's Winter there

>>15527976
The loafers have a great color. With a black coat I'd prefer black shoes, though, and I think that black and blue don't mix well in this case, but I can't quite put my finger on it.
The scarf fits the pants lot better than the coat.

>>15527989
It's always winter in Seattle

>>15528003
I meant the guy from SA, it's Winter there now.

>>15527990
Agree. Hoping to cop something to address that soon.

Think the 'off' factor is that the coat is just super shitty quality. It's extremely obvious with the dark fabric.

>>15527989
Freezing my ass off here. Post a fit?

With summer around the corner, trying to figure out what material to go for a safari jacket. Cotton? Linen/ WSL? Would love some suggestions here.

>>15528005
Actually it's spring here, Ceci

>trying to find a menswear store that doesn't suck
>it's an endless mountain of trash

>>15528042
linen
>>15528149
>not letting your gf/waifu buy your clothes

>>15528149
>menswear store
>not befriending your local tailor

>>15528179
>not letting your gf/waifu buy your clothes
why would you do this? Most of them have shit taste when it comes to menswear

>>15528186
>befriending
is this code for blowjabs

>>15528201
>t. forever aloan

>>15528186
Anon, I still need to buy accessories somewhere.

This is an amateur project at making a pair of trousers. Never tried this pattern before, so I may horribly fail at this, but I am not a complete newbie at it. I won't dive too deep into the matter, just outline the general steps. Anything too detailed does not make sense, there are easy to follow tutorials online.
First step was taking the measurements and drafting the pattern, which took about two hours. The pattern is actually easy if you understand how to construct it, so in the future it should take me less time to do so. A real tailor will usually draft the pattern directly on the fabric, because each client is different and over time their bodies change anyway, so it is easier to always do a new pattern.
Next was cutting the fabric. No surprises here, I just fold it in half and copy the pattern, then pin it along the lines and cut it. The pattern already includes the seam allowances and I added some extra length to the leg so that I can make a cuff later if I want to. The horizontal markings are a sewing aid, they should meet when stitching the parts together.

Time spent:
2h - measuring and pattern drafting
1h - ironing and cutting the main fabric

>>15528971
I am immeasurably interested in this project. What material is that? Did you try this on shitty fabric first? How are you doing the stitching? What tools do you need? How are you doing the waistband?

>>15528971
>What material is that? Did you try this on shitty fabric first?
This actually is the shitty fabric, it is 97% cotton and 3% spandex/elastan from a general store, they have those leftovers that are usually reduced and I was extremely lucky to find this piece of 1.2m and another piece of 2m for a matching jacket.
The pocket and jacket lining is cotton or viscose, I actually forgot that, and the sleeves and front of the leg get a polyester lining.
I am fairly confident that the pattern will work for me, as I compared the dimensions to fitting trousers. The fly and back seam are a critical area, I am not sure whether I got the lines entirely correct.
>How are you doing the stitching?
There will be lots of hand stitching, it mainly serves holding the fabric in place before I run a machine stitch on the side. I can take some more pictures of how I do this, if you are interested.
>What tools do you need?
Measuring tape, set square and ruler, chalk (you don't need tailor's chalk, regular one from an art store is OK, but you need to sharpen it yourself to get a finer line), scissors.
Needle, thread, obviously. Sewing machine is nice to have, but you could do everything by hand if you wanted to.
>How are you doing the waistband?
At the bottom of the photo there is still some fabric left. So far I just cut it off in a line and I'll make the waistband from it. It will be about 3cm wide with belt loops and an inlay for durability.

After cutting the large parts I cut plackets for the pockets and fly and kept a long strip for the belt loops. Just tell me if you need more details.

The plan for tomorrow is to cut the fabric for the pockets and the lining.

>>15527976
>>15523514
>>15521422
>>15518342
>>15514807
Stop spamming your cringe fits here (like you do in your containment thread);

>>15527976
>>15523514
>>15521422
>>15518342
>>15514807

people here don’t post fits because of cringe worthy posters like you who only wear pants at their belly button and shit up the thread with your autism

>>15529719
lol you posted in the wrong thread and then deleted the evidence out of shame you retard

>>15529903
What happened?

>>15529907
Some fag got irate at SA anon posting a fit in the /tip/ thread and went on a shitposting spree there. He mistakenly made a similar post here before deleting it. What a clown.

>>15529932
Kek, this is why no one posts in the tip threads.

>>15529128
Please keep us updated, this is most interesting!

On an entirely different note: Is anybody else frustrated by lower end brands (Massimo Dutti, Boggi...) having fake surgeons cuffs? I personally don’t mind non functioning buttons, but I would just feel like a fraud wearing these abominations. Pic related. One button is under the fabric where a hole should be. This suit is originally 700* euros.

>>15530182
Hahaha wtf. Someone predicted to me that companies are going to do this because people like to show off their working surgeon cuffs by undoing the last button.
For this amount of money they could just add real cuffs, this is laughable.
Can someone create a new thread?

New thread:
>>15530382
>>15530382
>>15530382

>>15529953
>>15529719
lmao.

>>15521422
Is not SA anon.

>>15530540
Indeed, but what does it matter?