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German Engineering Edition

This thread is about the appreciation of watches and their design, their history, and the engineering and materials that are required to make a functioning timepiece.

Guides:
> Poorfag guide: https://m.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV (embed)
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2 (embed)
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE (embed)

Should I buy this MVMT / DW / "minimalist" fashion watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

Should I buy this Armani / Michael Kors / mall watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/Sw1FsAn

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
> Wrist size or desired watch size

old
>>15515607

>> No.15518801

>>15518797
>cut
>numerals

>> No.15518810

>>15518801
It's a great piece of design to keep the dial perfectly in proportional.

>> No.15518816
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15518816

"Suggest a watch for me."
> 1500$
> Diver
> Movement doesn't matter
> Desired features, it doesn't matter
> Preferred strap option, Bracelet or Nato
> My wrist size is 7...

>> No.15518818

>>15518810
It's not exactly "perfectly proportional" to have those subdials spread like that, it looks like ball torture when you tie each testicle to a separate string and pull them apart.

>> No.15518835

>>15518816
Lol idk pick one. The new seiko spb14x look nice but they're just as overpriced as everything else. Maybe sinn 104?

>> No.15518851
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15518851

I don't understand the appeal. I've seen some in person and they are massively overrated.

>> No.15518855

>>15518801
/endthread

>> No.15518857
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15518857

Opinions?

>> No.15518863

>>15518857
I like it! Perfect size for you. How does it smell? Give it a good whiff and describe the odor.

>> No.15518864

>>15518857
Is that artificial patina on the hour markers?

>> No.15518870

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=safjyKBBwL0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=safjyKBBwL0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=safjyKBBwL0

What will your watch collection look like at 25, /wt/?

>> No.15518874
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15518874

>>15518857
Not a fan of those pointy indices but overall a nice looking general purpose watch. Feel like they could polish the bezel or some other surface to provide a little more contrast on the case.

>> No.15518881

>>15518870
>just the popular rolexes and AP and some mallshit thing thrown in
snoozefest "collection"

>> No.15518886

>>15518816
Seiko Turtle or just get a fake Submariner until you can afford a decent watch.

>> No.15518890
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15518890

>>15518857
Best looking Omega IMO
I wanna get a Chinese knockoff one

>> No.15518893

>>15518886
>decent watch
a gshock or casio duro is like $50 and will outlast conditions that will kill the rolex

>> No.15518899

>>15518893
Sure, that's not what I meant by decent though. What I meant was something you'll be able to sell for roughly what you paid for it.

>> No.15518902

>>15518857
>>15518890
I would like it if they hadn't gone super fucking heavy on the fake patina lume like they did.

>> No.15518911
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15518911

>>15518816
>recommend me a watch
>lol doesnt matter
>lol doesnt matter
>lol doesnt matter
>my wrist size is 7...

just take your pick of the millions of dinnerplate >40mm divers under $1500
maybe a 62mas?

>> No.15518914

>>15518870
Sure. Buy £50k in watches instead of putting down a deposit for a house. Very sensible ...

>> No.15518921

What’s a good comfy fall/winter watch?
Can it be done without leather straps.

>> No.15518932
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15518932

What's LITERALLY the best watch I can get from them?

>> No.15518934
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15518934

>>15518921
This one has a built-in cigarette lighter/heater for those cold winder nights.

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15518940

>>15518934

>> No.15518941

>>15518934
Jesus wept

>> No.15518953
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>>15518797
That will be 6 million gold Mr Lange.

>> No.15518955

ROLEX ROBBERIES

>> No.15518958
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15518958

>>15518932
The old orient pro saturation diver if you can find one. Otherwise there are a few nice orient stars and the rest of the best orient watches are vintage.

>> No.15518962
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15518962

>>15518932
This orient star is the best looking current production watch.
RK-AF0005S

>> No.15518964
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15518964

>>15518932
WE0011DU
this is the rarest orient. Like ever.

polished to high standards, only 12 exist in the world--for orient's 60th anniversary, each costing 6000 usd. All are sold.

this is the only non catalogue/product photo I can find of it. Little information exist outside of japan.
>The movement is caliber 48Z40, a uniquely skeletonized variant of the 48 family, similar to caliber 48B56 found in other, "standard" Royal Orient Skeletons (as much as these can be called standard). However, looking at the finish and unique bridge construction of the movement, it is obvious a lot of effort had gone into making this piece stand out.Similar to other 48 calibers, the movement is hand-winding only, boasting 50 hours of power reserve and stated accuracy of +10/-5 seconds per day, at a frequency of 21,600 vibrations per hour.

>The case of the WE0011DU was 38.5mm wide, 45.5mm lug to lug, and 10.1 mm thick. Both front and back were covered by sapphire glass, not surprisingly. The watch case and dial feature plenty of finely finished surfaces, both mirror- and satin-polished, achieved through much more manual work than even most Royal Orient models.

>> No.15518965
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15518965

>>15518932
My favorite orient ever made is this guy
But i will post na few more great vintage ones.

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15518968

>>15518965

>> No.15518977
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15518977

>>15518968

>> No.15518981
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15518981

>>15518977
This rare orient model has a 100 jewel movement

>> No.15518982
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15518982

Recently found out that marlon brando wore his gmt without a bezel. It looks weirdly appealing. The, now better visible crown guard, adds to the look. This also reminded me to put my diver back on a leather strap and it looks great (don't have a tropical strap yet).
Let this pic inspire you to do the same. Also, any idea why he wore it without a bezel? Not in the mood to read a hodinkee article, fuck em.

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15518985

>>15518981
Look at all those jewels.

>> No.15518986
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15518986

G R A I L
R
A
I
L

>> No.15518991

>>15518982
Because it fell off.

>> No.15518992
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15518992

>> No.15518993

>>15518986
just awful.

>> No.15518997
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15518997

>> No.15519003

>>15518986
Pretty, nice for a novelty piece in a collection. But I wouldn't wear one in public, personally.

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15519006

>>15518981
>>15518985
They just threw some jewels on parts, just for the sake of it, brilliant.
>>15518991
Well, that settles it then.

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15519007

>>15518993
Get lost loser

>> No.15519012
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>>15518857
Looks very nice, railmaster and black bay 36 are the top contenders for my first (and probably last )big watch purchase but I think the railmaster is on the lead.
It has a decent size not big or small and the specs are really good, antimagnetic as fuck,150wr, chrono, good movement (inb4 coaxial hater fag enters the thread) and I think the cristal is coated.The ''worst'' things about that watch depends on your personal taste, like the dial, some people say it feels poor and not luxury, but the images does not really show how it is, in some high res pictures you can see the texture of the dial and it changes depending on the light, this happens specially with the denin model.Then the fauxtina, yes it's fauxtina BUT, that color looks good, do you think the watch would be improved with another colour?, I don't think so, that colour gives the watch a different feel that pure white, see the denim version whith white and you will see the other watch feels different.

I think I like the denim version more, black is nice and more serious, but the blue denim looks nice and the history of denims tied to rails are a cool point and overall the watch feels more colorful and less serious and I'm not a serious person and probably will never be.

What I dislike is the raw steel version, it's really ugly, and they even put the fauxtina on it, another coloud would improve that model.

>> No.15519019

>>15518932
Hunt down a Royal Orient. It was their top of the line range that was axed sometime after Seiko assumed complete control. Wasn't at the level of GS, but it was nice enough.

>> No.15519023

>>15518857
Couldn't afford an Explorer?

>> No.15519028
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15519028

>>15518986
>>15518992
>>15519007

I'd really love it if they made it more legible.
Hate staring at my watch and guessing what the time is.

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15519030

>>15519006
>They just threw some jewels on parts, just for the sake of it,
Yes it's incredibly based. Just throw jewels on everything because they can. This must have been the peak of the more jewels = better meme

>> No.15519034
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15519034

w2c a watch like this?

>> No.15519036

>>15519028
>He wears his watch to tell time
Girls pointing and laughing.jpg

>> No.15519041

>>15519036
based

>> No.15519046

>>15519003
Why?
If you care what others think about your watch, that Moomin watch would get you mad pussy because it's something women would actually recognize

>> No.15519047

>>15519036
It's more of a larp really...

>> No.15519049

>>15518981
I love this, how much is it?

>> No.15519052

>>15519046
please Eino, leave the village and stop trying to fuck your cousins Aino and Elmo

>> No.15519057
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15519057

>>15519034
What game?

>> No.15519063

>>15519023
old 36mm explorer>railmaster>new explorer

>> No.15519067

>>15519030
>>15519006
>>15518985
this is SO orient.

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15519070

>>15519046
>watch would get you mad pussy

>> No.15519072

>>15519049
I found that on Yahoo auctions japan a while ago, i forget how much it was but it was definitely less than 2k, probably less than a thousand but i really can't remember.

>> No.15519084

What are some of your favourite AliExpress brands, anons? I want to branch out from Europe in my collection of weird shitters

>> No.15519090

From best to worst, san martin > steeldive = corgeut > cadisen

>> No.15519096

>>15519090
Oh i almost forgot seagull and Beijing watch factory at the top, they made some pretty damn nice stuff.
Also check out these watches
https://www.good-stuffs.com/CLASSICS-TAILORED-_c_16.html
And they rest of the stuff they have on their site

>> No.15519100

>>15519090
Who?

>> No.15519105

>>15519100
Chinese watches, think it was meant to be a reply to my post here
>>15519084

>> No.15519107

>>15519090
>>15519096
Meant for
>>15519084

>> No.15519110
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15519110

>>15519084
AE brands are mostly homages, though you get some unique pieces here and there

if you want real shitters off the beaten track, look up beijing or shanghai pieces. Or dive into VCM. The usual warnings apply.

>> No.15519119
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15519119

Which Chinese shitter should i buy?
This seagull
https://www.good-stuffs.com/CLASSICS-TAILORED-_c_16.html

>> No.15519120

>>15519110
That's p funky actually, thanks

>> No.15519121
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15519121

>>15519119
Or this?
https://www.good-stuffs.com/Old-Shanghai-Diamond-watch-D152-reissue-limited-edition_p_511.html

>> No.15519188
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15519188

*mogs your submariner*

>> No.15519198

>>15519188
It's a nice watch but the dial looks like it's made out of plastic. Looks like the quality of dial in an analog g-shock.

>> No.15519210

>>15519188
Tudor
Geneve
Pelagos
Chronometer
Officially Certified
Rotor Self-Winding
500m - 1640ft

>> No.15519217

>>15519210
Swiss Made

>> No.15519228

>>15519121
this one looks waaaaay cooler

>> No.15519229

>>15519210
they could put the tudor rose logo under geneve.

>> No.15519231

>>15518982
iirc he purposefully tore it off before filming to give it a more beaten up look

>> No.15519247

>>15519231
It was because it was his favorite watch for a really long time, and he was told he couldn't wear it for some reason, either it didn't fit the character or it was just too flashy or something so he took off the bezel and it was considered acceptable

>> No.15519253

Five identical revolutionary new watches

>> No.15519261

>>15518816
>Lorier
>Traska Freediver
>Any other 40mm Diver

>> No.15519267

>>15519231
>>15519247
Thx, i will research a bit more about the whole thing. This sounds all plausible but it got me curious.

>> No.15519277
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15519277

>>15519057
Far Cry 4

>> No.15519312

>called local watch repair shop to ask how much it would be to install a new aftermarket bezel + bezel insert
>he quotes me $45
...what the fuck do i do boyos?

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15519331

Evening /wt/

>> No.15519344

>>15519312
>only the bezel
dont be a wuss and do it yourself

>> No.15519347

>>15519344
Im scared of scratching the case :(

>> No.15519364
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15519364

>>15519347
tape up the case before you do it
use a case pryer or a butterknife
tape those up too if you are scared
youll be fine, trust me

depending on the watch you might need a case press to put it back together again, seikos need a lot more force than vostoks for example
but thats like $10 on AE and you can use it in the future
beats paying $45 every time

>> No.15519368

>>15519312
>>15519347
>tape case
>tape knife you will use for it
or use a case opener tool. Don't use too much leverage or you will bend the bezel. Just slide the metal thing underneath the bezel and let it pop off.
Approach it from both, opposite sides so pressure on the bezel is equal, if it doesn't work from one side.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDsxC0YNcxQ

>> No.15519373

>>15519364
>>15519368
Much appreciated guys. I'll try my best!

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15519396

>>15519364
>>15519373
Case press is always nice to have, but if you are impatient, like me, you can use your vise as a ghetto case press.

Used the part that fastens it to the table to close a very nasty snapback watch case.
>put watch face into a plastic ring so it won't press on the glass
>tape a fat watsher and use it to apply pressure on the caseback

Very controllable and easy. Used the vise grips to fasten it to the table and turned the whole thing like i needed it.

>> No.15519443

>>15519396
Thanks for the tip! I will probably try this method, just need to figure out what to rest the watch on.

>> No.15519462

>>15518816
Casio F91w

>> No.15519467

>>15519331
ref number pls

>> No.15519493

>>15519312
Do it yourself. It's easy, there's tone of videos on youtube teaching how to do it.
I do it every few months to clean up my watch.

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15519503

>>15519331

konnichiwa

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>>15519443
Hope it all works out. But it's just an assumption that you will need a press, maybe it works with finger pressure.

In your case it would be even easier, since you just need to press a bezel onto the case.
>place watch on dark, soft part of vise
>find plastic ring that fits above bezel
>tape washer or thick coin to top of ring, so the narrow part can spread the pressure equally

Maybe install the bezel insert afterwards. I'm pretty sure that the plastic ring could damage the insert.

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>>15519467
7a28-7040, best of luck

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15519625

>>15518932
Their salmon dial explorer is a great looking watch.

>> No.15519675

>>15519625
>salmon
big cope
it's pink

>> No.15519691

>>15519625
Looks like i'd get pissed off, trying to read the time in a well lit room. Shitty contrast watches are a real pain. Usually you notice that you made a mistake when you already bought it.
>those gaps
>that shitter bracelet
>the overall finishing

It looks like absolute trash, haven't seen such gaps even on my 40€ mall shitter. Orient star my ass.

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15519745

>>15518797
is invicta the "affliction" or "ed hardy" of watches? i only ever see roided up degenerates wearing them. usually at a casino or a nightclub in the tri state, vegas or miami. and you can always weed out the invicta wearers from the douchebags with money who wear actual expensive watches. invicta people are either

1: tri state italians on disability from a city or construction job who watch UFC, take steroids, drive a raptor and beat their wives/girlfriends. have at least 1 restraining order against them

or

2: low level drug dealers or gang bangers who buy their 1st flex piece

bonus: watching invicta sale on shop HQ and a full out ooga booga is on the phone talking about their "jew'reh"

>> No.15519765

>>15519745
invicta was a once-respectable watch company that made quality pieces of exquisite refinement and detail
then in order to survive they took the devil's deal and expanded with the model "quantity is its own quality." started hurling shitters into the void, made as cheaply as possible and marketed to the asshole crowd who doesn't care as long as he's got the loudest watch in the room and doesn't have to pay more than a day's wage for it.
and so you end up with the invicta group of today
look at vintage invictas, and weep for what will never be again

>> No.15519789

anyone wear their divers in the shower?

>> No.15519791

>>15519789
no because I fear the combination of heat and moisture. diver's can handle heat. and water. but steam? you don't want to mess with that, there's too many variables.
I wear my automatics while I sleep though out of laziness.

>> No.15519792

>>15519765
>not muh heckin branderino

I looked up vintage invictas, there is nothing special about them. They look like everything from other brands, during that time. Sad they survived on absolute trash watches tho. But some of their standard divers look okay. I see why people buy them.

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>>15519789
>I’ve had this SKX007 from either Creation or Watchspree for about 6 months now. It was a brand new watch from Ebay but today I found out there was moisture inside my watch after just taking a shower. have never tampered with this watch, I’ve never opened the case back, or done any modifications to it. This is pretty frustrating. It’s supposed to be a 200M ISO rated diver and it now it has zero water resistance simply from steam getting inside.

>Any ideas what’s wrong? I am 100% certain that the crown was screwed down as I always check it before any water situation. I really doubt it’s the case back. Could it be something wrong with the stem gasket? What should I do?

>I live in a dry environment and the shower was quick and not very hot. I'm pretty certain there was actually ingress as more keeps building up on the dial by condensation hours later like it can't escape. I'll try leaving crown unscrewed

>> No.15519798

>>15519797
>>15519791
Well shit, I'll avoid that then, thanks.

>> No.15519800

>>15519789
i wear nothing in the shower, of course you hear lots of people saying its fine yada yada but why risk it, would be a pain to rinse the soap out properly from fabric straps or folded links as well

but i sleep often with watches (in an very autistic sense i feel like its bonding time with my watch)

>> No.15519804

>>15519800
Do you ever rub your dick on your watch?
Not saying I do that, of course, but it would be the ultimate bonding experience, wouldn't it? Theoretically, of course.

>> No.15519807

>>15519797
modded

>> No.15519819
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15519819

Friendly reminder to clean your shit

>> No.15519820

>>15519804
no, I dont think it would feel good

i only do that with my tenga 3D. Best $80 purchase ever
>>15519807
dont look modded, what makes u say that

>> No.15519829
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15519829

>>15519819
what watch is it? at least its not pitted to hell

>> No.15519838

>>15519829
No idea, some sort of cheap mall watch. I've had some come through with pitting but none like that. That's why I don't want to buy stuff made of base metal or with any sort of plating, shit doesn't last and there is no fixing it.

>> No.15519853

>>15519789
Soap can attack the gaskets and leak water in over time.

>> No.15519862

>>15519789
i usually shower with my watch after going to the beach with it. mainly so i can rinse it to remove saltwater and sand. never had a problem before.

>> No.15519869

>>15519745
>>15519765
Invictas are future classics. First they'll go entirely out of fashion and many mechanical ones will get discarded as getting them repaired won't be economical but a few decades later they will be regarded as the most iconic watches of the first quarter of the 21st century. They'll be highly collectable, especially amongst a new generation of SEA watch collectors, with the most obscene and morbidly oversized limited edition models fetching exorbitant prices. Unironically the best long term investment pieces in the market.

>> No.15519880

>>15519210
SWISS MEME

>> No.15519905

>>15519188
>Buys almost-a-rolex
>Everything about it looks mediocre and uninteresting
>Has paragraph of text on dial
Tudorfags are maybe the saddest of all watchfags. Chuffing a brand that is the worst of all worlds.

>> No.15519921
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15519921

The Ashkenazi should fear the Samurai.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK2D1zv7TVw

>> No.15519922
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15519922

>>15519869
based

>> No.15519991

>>15519819
Are you a level 300 master watchsmith?

>> No.15519993
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15519993

>>15519922
the coomer watch

>> No.15519997

>>15519745
Just be glad that Glycine under Invicta is giving us ETA based movements at like $400

>> No.15520012

>>15519991
No, just a guy who changes batteries and does very minor jewelry repairs.

>> No.15520035
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15520035

wish I was back in vegas bros
post your watches in cool backgrounds

>> No.15520040
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15520040

>>15520035
another
fuck this city though. anyone who's not born in st louis knows it sucks ass

>> No.15520068
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15520068

>>15520035

>> No.15520087

>>15520068
where's this? looks pretty close to where I am near LA
killer watch my dude

>> No.15520102

>>15520087
close-ish, its SJ

>> No.15520103

>>15520102
I see, just getting used to socal geography.

>> No.15520134
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15520134

>>15520035

>> No.15520148

>>15520134
pretty, where's this?

>> No.15520152

>>15520148
British parliament

>> No.15520158
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15520158

>youtube SKX007
>every watch reviewer shows a cheaper skx007-K model

WHY? It's gross. Your video is from a couple years ago so you could have bought a new skx007-J back then for less than what the gross skx007-K sells for in 2020. And you are a youtuber. Come on...

>> No.15520165

>>15520158
put your trip back on so I can filter you

>> No.15520166

The only acceptable SKX is the MADE IN JAPAN "J" model. It's a measly few dozen dollars extra, mane. Wtf is wrong with you people? Why is everyone so cheap? You work at youtube ffs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2dY59t0hTw

>> No.15520172

Don't be a petty subhuman. If you're going to buy - buy flagship.

>> No.15520174

>>15520172
>>15520166
>>15520158
put your fucking trip on I want to automatically filter your posts. nobody else spergs out so much about a fucking skx I know it's you

>> No.15520176

>>15519798
>>15519800
Should be fine if the seals are intact man. Showers dont get that hot. I've taken my divers into the steam room after swimming before. That being said, I can see why you would say it's not worth the risk, which has soured me on divers a bit. It irritates my autism if I'm not going to risk it getting wet and shit so I might as well wear more of a dress watch that'll take off anyways.

>> No.15520188
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15520188

>Day 48 of waiting for my Neptune to arrive

>> No.15520190

>>15520176
the problem is that cleaning agents + heat + water can do things to a watch and cause moisture to be able to worm its way in. you can clean your watch, you can have your watch on in a hot place, you can have your watch in the water, but mixing these things exponentially increases risk.

>> No.15520197

do you tards wear your watch to sleep?

>> No.15520219

>>15520197
No

>> No.15520223

>>15520197
yes, why not?

>> No.15520230

>>15520223
it's heavy and clunky.
I don't want to smack my girlfriend in the face with my watch from sleep fidgets

>> No.15520232

>>15520190
Eh I guess but the cleaning agents in the shower are super mild and will be rinsed off the watch almost immediately. It's your watch so if you're not comfortable doing it then dont, but I'd still estimate that the risk is very small and water damage is still infinitely more likely to happen from compromised seals.

>> No.15520236

>>15520197
Yes I do. I also wear my glasses and shoes to bed.

>> No.15520247

>>15520236
>wearing shoes in the house
>dragging in dirt and dust and dog poop bits from outside smearing it all over the floor

gross
i bet you have carpet all over too

>> No.15520265

you guys think I can fit a Kamasu on my baby 6 inch wrists?

>> No.15520275

>>15520265
If you have fairly flat wrists, maybe. I have a 6.75" wrist that's pretty round, and the Kamasu is just right, if the lug to lug were 4mm longer it would be too big for me.

>> No.15520289

>>15520197
why not
the only hard object in the bed is the watch
and my bedframe is wooden

>> No.15520293

>>15520289
what about a partner?

>> No.15520296

>>15520293
dont have a SO now
if im sleeping with someone i'd take it off

>> No.15520315

>>15520230
If you are asleep you shouldn't notice anything and it's not like you are waving your arms while sleeping, or at least you shouldn't.

>> No.15520403
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15520403

>>15518857
>>15519012
>>15519028
>Omega Railmaster & Oris Pointer Date
Really big flat printed dials with hands that are either too short or too thin. Imagine the hands beefier and the watches 38mm diameter.

It is not a premium look. The hands should have more presence because of the lack of indices. Consider the Sinn 556 which has beefier hands and a smaller case. If the Omega and Oris had these proportions it would be an improvement.

That's what I see. I have owned the Oris and thought quite seriously about the Omega. If the Blue Railmaster dips into 3k I'll probably get one but the traditional in 36mm looks great.

Both are very cool. I just think they aren't quite right.

>> No.15520420

>>15520403
>talking about flat printed dials and "lack of a premium look" while holding a Sinn of all things
total kek. Nothing is as "non luxury looking" and superflat as Sinns and Damaskoes. They are literally ultra utilitarian autist tool watches

the oris big crown is a very nice looking watch and theres a 36mm version as well

>> No.15520444

>>15520403
the hands on the sinn are too short. the hands on both the omega and the oris look better imo

>> No.15520467
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15520467

>>15518797
is it too small or nah? Got a pretty good deal on this, not really feeling it though.

>> No.15520473

>>15520467
>too small
nigga the lugs barely clear your wrist
the watch body itself is 100% fine

>> No.15520474

>>15520467
too small? no. it's almost too big, the lugs look like they hang over your wrist.

>> No.15520476

>>15520467
>too small
If anything it's too big.

>> No.15520495

>>15520473
>>15520474
>>15520476
Damn I feel attacked lol

>> No.15520498

>>15520495
how much did you pay for it

>> No.15520499

>>15520467
That's absolutely huge for your tiny little pale chicken wrist.

>> No.15520505

>>15520498
about $260 - brand new with 2 straps and 1 bracelet

>> No.15520506
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15520506

The Sinn 556 has a smaller diameter case and larger hands. The 556 is merely an illustrative example precisely because the dial is so basic and plain. Imagine the Blue Railmaster with arrow hands or sword hands in a 38.5mm case.

Bear in mind the Railmaster was a tool watch originally and spartan in its design. The arrow hands were an element that made it interesting and distinctive. It needed something.

There is an Oris Pointer Date in 36mm but 38mm would still be ideal. I find the hands a little small on the 36 and definitely on the 40mm. Such a great hand design but should be stretch out and wider.

Both the Omega and Oris have large flat dials and the hands are small. A 40mm watch with a flat dial is so different than a 40mm watch with a bezel and applied indices. Slightly smaller case and bigger hands would make up for the flatness of the dials.

Again, just a thought. Your opinions may vary. That's cool too.

>> No.15520507

>>15520505
thats pretty good
its some store offer thing? never heard of FREE straps

>> No.15520513

>>15520507
nah some guy sold it to me since it was too small for him. If you go to Dan Henry website, they are selling this for $260 which includes a leather strap + bracelet + travel case.

>> No.15520514
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15520514

>>15520506
This looks perfectly proportional to me.

>> No.15520523

>>15520513
meh, unless he has 10 inch wrists it would have been fine
its ludicrous i often read misc comments on like tHiS wAtCh iS tOo sMaLl yOu NeEd mOrE wRiSt pReSeNce when its just the messed up modern dinnerplate trend making people think they need some hugeass chunky thing to feel manly or something

>> No.15520524
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15520524

>>15520035
Flexing on these shitters

Hint: It's in Munich

>> No.15520529

>>15520514
This guy gets it! That dial is smaller and the hands are larger. Wish the Blue Railmaster was closer to this watch but sized down case without the bezel.

Maybe the Seamaster is the best of everything?

When Blue Denim Seamaster 57?

>> No.15520541
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15520541

>>15520529
The only problem I have with that Seamaster is the weird bracelet and autistic angular lugs, if it had a Speedy bracelet, it would've been perfect.

>> No.15520563

>>15519566
ok I'll just take yours. now gimme your watch punk

>> No.15520570

>>15519797
that's considered patina nowadays. cool watch

>> No.15520587
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15520587

>>15520035
On the beach in a 5 star resort in the Dominican Republic.

>> No.15520589

>>15520467
>is it too small
It overhangs your wrist dipshit, it's too big lug 2 lug.

>> No.15520596

>>15518851
>line nobody gives a shit about
>from a brand nobody looks twice at
>bought by randoms that pay full retail
>available at a fraction of the price grey or used from above randos who realize their mistake
something like this can't be "massively overrated"
it might as well not even exist at all

>> No.15520645
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15520645

Help me choose.

>> No.15520665
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15520665

what do you guys think of big divers? i'm generally more of a refined aesthetic than a chunky sports watch guy but i find myself going back and forth over the seiko sumo spb103
it's 45x52.6 mm, i tried it on at the jeweler's and it just felt too big but i'd put it on this hexad strapcode bracelet as in the attached picture which i think would make the look more cohesive as it leans into it's bulkiness
it did have good presence and maybe a bit too flashy but i liked it, especially when off angle from bright lights it's a very deep green almost black
some background:
i'm an engineer, currently wfh but i have a mix of design and field work
7.25" wrists at room temp
my daily is a tangente date 38 so the size difference is night and day and i think maybe i didn't put things in perspective

alternatively i've been looking at the spb149
coming in at a much more comfortable 40.5x47.6 mm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8GqFoMnBZQ&feature=youtu.be
in this video at 11:05 the guy puts it on a black isofrane and i love the look
it's limited edition which means nothing to me but the price is a problem
they want 1350 vs 850 for the same 6r35 movement and i don't know if i can justify that
what do you guys think?

>> No.15520683

>>15520645
Left is the safer option the right is slightly dressier - try and see real versions of them

>> No.15520689
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15520689

>>15520665
here's the spb149 from the video

>> No.15520695

>>15520689
also this guy has tiny wrists it looks like, maybe 6.75" but i'm guessing

>> No.15520729

>>15520645
Neither, black is the patrician's choice.

>> No.15520730

>>15520645
Left is better but I'd get an aqua terra

>> No.15520743

>>15520645
Of those two, the blue, no question.

>> No.15520816
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15520816

Could a kind anon please help me determine the age of this one?
Bought it at an auction for ~ $120

>> No.15520819
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15520819

>>15518801
>>15518818
>>15518855
Jesus Christ you people are plebs.

>> No.15520831

>>15520816
probably late 1950's

>> No.15520858

>>15520816
1957/1958
What kind of auction was it that managed to sell a watch for 10% of what it's actually worth?

>> No.15520863
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15520863

>>15520816
Cool Longines anon
Found this 1880's pocketwatch last week

>> No.15520871

>>15520863
show movement

>> No.15520877

>>15520858
If its an estate clearance there are no reserves set.

>> No.15520882

>>15519090
Corgeut's BB clone is rather good. Been on my wrist since early June this year. Seagull movement, -6 to -8 s/d consistently.
>>15519084
Be advised, all chinese watches (bar perhaps San Martin and other medium-expensive brands which I've not tried myself) have imperfections that you can readily find by looking closely. Many of them are such that once you stop looking they vanish and aren't rediscovered by accident. This may also be the case with Seiko and some European brands.

>> No.15520892

>>15519789
Besides the points made about seals and soap and so forth, I'd point out that showering with a watch on is a great way to get a massive fungal rash under the strap. Not only are you not washing your wrist, and watch strap & bracelet, you're putting water under there to stew. It's like jock itch, /wt/ edition. Sometimes takes weeks to get rid of, can spread through fingertips if you scratch it, and so on.

So, feel free to wash your waterproof wristwatch when you get in the shower, but put it aside before you wash yourself. Spend time drying it properly.

>> No.15520912

>>15520148
The Ministry of Cuckoldry

>> No.15520920

how the fuck am I supposed to find a nice watch when everything looks like they're made for ogres

>> No.15520922

>>15520920
When you call 38mm "too big", that's your problem, not the watches'.

>> No.15520925

>>15520922
nah but every other watch is 43+

>> No.15520926

>>15520925
If it's a diver, then 43mm looks more like 38.

>> No.15520935

>>15520920
Buy vintage.
Most vintage watches look better than modern ones anyway

>> No.15520952

>>15520831
>>15520858
>>15520863
Thanks for the info.
Yeah I got lucky then I guess. Haven't serviced it though. It ticks quite loudly so I don't wanna wind it up too much.
I'll take it to the local watch guy soon to see how much it would be to look over the movement.

>> No.15520954

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wPw841zpBs

Does Jory lurk /wt/?

>> No.15520961

>>15520819
Ugh, ugly. Throw it away!

>> No.15520962

>>15519090
did Cadisen release a smaller version of their RO clone yet?

>> No.15520969
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15520969

Polishing a Seiko 5 and changing the crystal to Sapphire: Based or cringe?

>> No.15520972

>>15520969
Based if you send the bill to Seiko afterwards.

>> No.15520974

>>15520197
Of course, have been doing so for 5 years now.

>> No.15521003

>>15520645
neither those waves are fugly
get this one >>15520587 or the blue version of it

>> No.15521025
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15521025

What are the worst brand names?

>> No.15521026

>>15521025
>worst (best)

>> No.15521056

>>15521025
Oh man that made me laugh.
Why would they do this?

>> No.15521063

Is 1/4 or 1/5 of my savings too much to spend on a watch? I want the BB58 Blue or the GMT. When I say savings I mean liquid cash not investments.

>> No.15521064

>>15520403
>It is not a premium look.
Is that supposed to be a bad thing?.

>> No.15521068

>>15521025
thats a chinese fake brand
the watch is a chanel j12

>> No.15521072

>>15518816
tc rolex sub

>> No.15521076

>>15521063
If it's spare money sitting around doing nothing else then sure. You buy one, enjoy it and if the worst comes to the worst either of those two models can then be easily sold to get most of your money back.

>> No.15521085

>>15521076
>can then be easily sold to get most of your money back.
Is never that simple, and you probably won't get "most of your money back".
People talk as if you can just snap your fingers and the watch will find a willing buyer and sell itself and poof! You get what you paid for back into your wallet.
People that talk like this have never sold a watch.
And in the economic climate to come? Try finding anyone wanting to splurge on such frivolities when they don't have a job. The market's going to be flooded with used shit that won't move next year, especially if the dems win and keep everything locked down.

>>15521063
Now is not the time to be throwing money down the toilet. But hey, it's your cash. If in 9 months time you find yourself up shit creek wishing you had some liquid capital but all you have is a cope for a rolex, then that's your business.

>> No.15521091
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15521091

>>15521025
Niga Sport

>> No.15521097

>>15521085
Most of the online dealers will buy back your watch without hassle. Sure you may take upto a 20% hit on a Tudor or Rolex but that's better than most other brands.

>> No.15521111
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15521111

Here it is, the new Christopher Ward C65 Super Compressor. £895 on a strap, £1k on bracelet.

>> No.15521112

>>15521111
christopher ward needs to hire someone to design a logo for them

>> No.15521117

>>15521112
a logo, a dial, the hands, the case, and some decent QC.

>> No.15521119
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15521119

>>15518797
Rolex maxi cases look revolting on leather straps

>> No.15521127
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15521127

Let's see how long it takes to get here now.

>> No.15521133

>>15521091
WTC??

>> No.15521145
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15521145

>>15521025

>> No.15521147

It’s up

https://youtu.be/9p42B6enLnU

>> No.15521149

>>15521112
same goes for Dan Henry
seagull could use a logo too

>> No.15521150

>>15521149
Her face is a completely different color from her neck and the rest of her body.
But those appear to be some bodacious knockers, tell you what.

>> No.15521152
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15521152

>>15521112

>> No.15521154

>>15520969
kinda a waste of money but why not
and only if you switch out the 7s26 to a nh36 as well

>> No.15521155

>>15521152
>>15521111
can they really not just change their name to ward or something? or find some way to incorporate CW into a logo? this is ridiculous they spend a lot of effort on these watches and their logo is bootleg mallshitter tier

>> No.15521156

>>15521155
To be honest, the logo is about on par with the merit of their watches.

>> No.15521164

>>15521111
I like Farer's compressor more, a bit more expensive, but better looking.

>> No.15521171

>>15521111
>water resistance increases as you dive deeper
For what purpose?

>> No.15521197

>>15521171
So water doesn't get in your watch you dodo bird

>> No.15521198

>>15521155
They could just put CW on them instead

>> No.15521201
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15521201

S H I T T E R L I F E

>> No.15521212
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15521212

>>15521085
>And in the economic climate to come? Try finding anyone wanting to splurge on such frivolities when they don't have a job. The market's going to be flooded with used shit that won't move next year, especially if the dems win and keep everything locked down.
If there's one thing that I've learned from Magic the gathering is that in times of insecurity the money always flows back to the "standard" (Reserved List) and in the watch world that is Patek and Rolex, whether you like it or not. So probably now it is THE BEST moment to buy them, before the recession hits, and god knows what else given the social climate in Burgerland.
When the gap between the rich and the poor widens, collector and luxury objects premium goes up.

I'm personally thinking of getting a gun because why not.

>> No.15521214
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15521214

>>15521149
Dan Henry should just steal the Dan Halen logo already

>> No.15521216

>>15521171
What do you mean? The deeper you dive the higher the pressure.

>> No.15521267

>>15521197
Why not just make the water resistance a fixed value?
Why does it have to vary with depth?

>>15521216
But with this watch, the deeper you go the more the watch becomes watertight.

>> No.15521268

>>15520665
>i'm generally more refined aesthetic
>i find myself going sumo
Don't do it.
>>15520954
I absolutely can't stand this shrieking onions creep.
>>15521147
TGV the Aristocrat discussing Batman films with an eGirl in braces.

>> No.15521271

>>15521268
>TGV the Aristocrat discussing Batman films with an eGirl in braces.
can you think of anything that more accurately sums up the current state of the watch community though, in all honesty? these people, these companies, from the top on down they talk mad shit about their prestige and heritage and then hand out relentlessly bastardized versions of their most iconic watches for free to rappers or footballers

>> No.15521274

>>15521267
why not
vostoks have this characteristic too
the water pressure makes the watch even more watertight
its much smarter and performs better than a bruteforce fixed depth

>> No.15521276

>>15521274
>performs better than a bruteforce fixed depth
lmao how?

>> No.15521279

>>15521276
Because it's doing more with less so they don't have to make the watch ginormous and heavy

>> No.15521281

>>15521268
>TGV the Aristocrat discussing Batman films with an eGirl in braces.

He also discusses LEGO, he is based as fuck.

>> No.15521283

>>15521279
How is it less "ginormous and heavy" while having the same depth rating?
How does the variable water resistance mechanism do this?

>> No.15521298

>>15521267
>>But with this watch, the deeper you go the more the watch becomes watertight
Exactly. The deeper you are the more resistant the watch has to be. What don't you understand?

>> No.15521303

>>15520197
Sometimes I forget to take it off.

>> No.15521304 [DELETED] 

>>15521276
.
im just going to talk about vostok because im not familiar with CW, not the original poster

because while a 200m brute force fixed depth watch will 99% fail at 300m+, a ""200m"" vostok while only listed at 200 can go as far as 850m+. (The record for vostok is 867m in pressure chamber)

>>15521283
because depth ratings are not absolute?

the water pressure presses down on the wide lipped caseback, tightening it against the watch and spreads the force over a correspondingly extra wide O ring

the domed acrylic flexes further under more pressure, jamming it against the bezel

versus just blindly making a case and crystal thicker to withstand whatever depth its rated for

the vostok system is so ingenious the watch can go 400%+ its rated depth before failing. While not making it a huge ass watch. It is designed to use water pressure to its own advantage.

>> No.15521313

>>15521298
>The deeper you are the more resistant the watch has to be.
But why make the water resistance variable?
Why not make it resistant to X depth and be done with it?

Variable system or not, the watch ultimately has to be just as robust as a fixed-rating watch.

>> No.15521314

>>15521276
im just going to talk about vostok because im not familiar with CW, not the original poster
a 200m brute force fixed depth watch will 99% fail at 300m+, a """200m""" vostok while on paper only listed at 200 can go as far as 850m+. (The record for vostok is currently 867m in pressure chamber)
>>15521283
because depth ratings are not absolute?
for vostok the water pressure presses down on the wide lipped caseback, tightening it against the watch and spreads the force over a correspondingly extra wide O ring
the domed acrylic flexes further under more pressure, jamming it against the bezel
Versus just blindly making a case and crystal thicker to withstand whatever depth its rated for
it is so ingenious the watch can go 400%+ its rated depth before failing. While not making it a huge ass watch. It is designed to use water pressure to its own advantage

>> No.15521316

>>15521268
>>15521271
>>15521281
>TGV talks to an eGirl about not-watches
Levels of YouTube Watch channels:
1. Sincere enthusiast reviewing G-Shocks and big Divers
2. E-Begging reviewers that cover everything without really having anything to say
3. Guy with 1 Rolex that has nothing to say but wants to sell straps or non-rolexes or something else
4. Guy that buys and sells watches and is basically a used car salesman
5. Tim Mosso and that weird old German guy that seem to actually know about watches and are connected to the watch industry
6. Watch companies maintaining a sprinkling of social media aiming to sell to people that are above knowing 1. to 5. even exist

Then there's shit posting on 4Chan, for champions of sex!

>> No.15521328

>>15521314
>a 200m brute force fixed depth watch will 99% fail at 300m+, a """200m""" vostok while on paper only listed at 200 can go as far as 850m+
How would a variable system make a watch more robust than a fixed-rating watch?
Also, I call bullshit. If it's structurally able to go to 850m then it would say that on the dial.

>for vostok the water pressure presses down on the wide lipped caseback, tightening it against the watch and spreads the force over a correspondingly extra wide O ring
the domed acrylic flexes further under more pressure, jamming it against the bezel
>Versus just blindly making a case and crystal thicker to withstand whatever depth its rated for
So the difference is a wider O ring and acrylic crystal?

>> No.15521336

>>15521328
>How would a variable system make a watch more robust than a fixed-rating watch?
because it's variable you dipshit

>> No.15521337

>>15521313
Because it's smart.

>> No.15521338

>>15521336
lmao, you're joking right?

>> No.15521341

https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/vostok-amphibia-an-analysis-of-design-methodology.491757/

>> No.15521346

>>15521147
BUT HAVE YOU SEEN THOSE FUCKING MILKERS?!

>> No.15521350

>>15521313
fuck dude you are dense
>Why not make it resistant to X depth and be done with it?
because it works better and its more efficient
>>15521328
>i call bullshit
you can literally watch a youtube video of it....
>the difference is a wider O ring and acrylic crystal?
yes
acrylic is actually the most shatter resistant of all the different crystals, it can flex precisely because its plastic and not glass
most watches have a thin, sharp rimmed caseback sitting on a super skinny thin O ring that easily fail under stress.The vostok O ring is extra fat to spread out the force. The vostok caseback also has 2 parts, the metal ring tightens the actual caseback and prevents wear on the O ring. The caseback does not grind against the O ring like a normal watch does

>> No.15521353

>>15521313
I think you're missing the point. Things are designed differently because there are different ways to reach the same outcome. That's true of every product. Using a compressor case allows for certain design elements that other cases may not (typically smaller case sizes / shapes, domed crystal) and anecdotally the compressor design performs higher than its rated depth. But that's not to say it's somehow different than a sea dweller with a set rating.

Reading: https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/vostok-amphibia-an-analysis-of-design-methodology.491757/

>> No.15521355

>>15521350
>because it works better and its more efficient
How?

>you can literally watch a youtube video of it....
Fixed-rating watches also regularly exceed their nominal rating.
What is the engineering logic behind a variable system being more robust than a fixed system.

>yes
So it's not the variable system that makes it more robust, it's the bigger O-ring and the acrylic crystal?

>> No.15521362

>>15521355
you literally have the IQ of a pigeon. Just go read things up before constantly asking stupid questions
>Fixed-rating watches also regularly exceed their nominal rating
usually only by ~25% because that is the enforced extra safety margin

>> No.15521363

You autists are completely missing the point. Compressor watches are not "variable". They have a depth rating just like a submariner or a turtle. The method they achieve that rating by is different by design, just like the submariner and turtle are designed differently. Both types of watches are known to go beyond their "rating". What is the confusion about?

>> No.15521367

>>15521355
It's literally designing a watch to resist water in a flexible way that adapts to the amount of pressure being put on it at any given time vs. just being super duper overbuilt all the time. The former will obviously be a far more efficient, elegant system.
Are you fucking retarded? Or are you trolling and just "pretending" to be an imbecile? How can you not understand this? It's the difference between clenching your asshole to suppress a fart vs. spending every waking moment of your life with your asshole clenched manually because you never know when wind will pass through your ass. Why waste the effort?

>> No.15521369

>>15521362
>usually only by ~25% because that is the enforced extra safety margin
Citation needed.

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15521370

Fuckkkkk convince me not to pull the trigger rn fags, I'm feeling very Patrick Bateman rn and I want a datejust homage, tell me if your experiences with pagani design or recommend me datejust homages on a budget of 150€ (two tone necessary)

>> No.15521371

>>15521353
>Using a compressor case allows for certain design elements that other cases may not (typically smaller case sizes / shapes, domed crystal)
How does a variable system allow for smaller case sizes?
Or for a domed crystal?

>>15521362
I bet you're starting to realize yourself how the compressor system is a gimmick.

>>15521363
>Compressor watches are not "variable".
Sure they are.
They become more watertight as they go deeper.
Their watertightness "varies" with depth.

>>15521367
>in a flexible way
Why?
At max depth, the system simply has to be just as robust as a comparable fixed-rating watch.

>> No.15521372

>>15521328
>Also, I call bullshit. If it's structurally able to go to 850m then it would say that on the dial.

a casio f91 filled with oil can reach that and on the face only shows 50wr.

>> No.15521374

>>15521372
>filled with oil
k

Thanks for posting, anon.

>> No.15521379

>>15519789
What if I'm a cold shower having, no poo doing alpha male ? Is my watch safe ?

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>>15521346

>> No.15521390

>>15521369
How can you post so much retarded shit without knowing the ISO standards. I dont even own a single dive watch
>Diving watches are tested in static or still water under 125% of the rated (water) pressure, thus a watch with a 200-metre rating will be water resistant if it is stationary and under 250 metres of static water.
ie they are only enforced to 25% extra as a safety margin and anything beyond will likely break a fixed depth watch BECAUSE THEY ARE FIXED DEPTH and zero obligations to go any further

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_Resistant_mark

>> No.15521392

>>15521390
That says nothing about how variable watches are inherently more robust than fixed-rate watches.

At the rated depth, the variable watch simply has to be just as robust as a fixed-rating watch.

>> No.15521399

>>15521392
its more robust because it can even go much further than its own rated parameters, that is literally the meaning of robust
a vostok and a skx are both "on paper 200m wr" but i doubt an skx can even go deeper than 400m

>> No.15521400

>>15521390
No you moron not citation about the standard, that's easy information to google. Your claim that they're only water proof (typical) up to 25% more than what they're rated to. All you did was post the precautions, but this anecdote that fixed WR watches are only good +25% of their rating is baseless.

>> No.15521401

>>15521399
>its more robust because it can even go much further than its own rated parameters
Even if that's true, WHY?

>> No.15521406

>>15521371
>>Using a compressor case allows for certain design elements that other cases may not (typically smaller case sizes / shapes, domed crystal)
>How does a variable system allow for smaller case sizes?
>Or for a domed crystal?
It allows for a domed crystal by integrating crystal expansion into the design for increased WR as depth increases. Other designs relying on fixed depth ratings put the crystal under too much stress for it to be highly domed (the domed ones need to be acrylic so it expands in the traditional compressor model. Tech is better these days)

It typically allows for smaller case shapes by reducing the size necessary of the case back depending on the overall case design. A company could still make a chunky compressor.

>> No.15521411

>>15521400
literally use your brain
why would they waste any more of THEIR OWN manufacturing MONEY or make the watch even thicker and chunkier to br ablecto go to a depth they are not required to at ALL.
>>15521401
why not
fuck off

>> No.15521417

>>15521406
>It allows for a domed crystal by integrating crystal expansion into the design for increased WR as depth increases.
Fixed-rating cases also allow for domed crystals.

>Other designs relying on fixed depth ratings put the crystal under too much stress for it to be highly domed
No they don't.

>It typically allows for smaller case shapes by reducing the size necessary of the case back
The threads on your average diver are only like 2-3 mm tall.

>> No.15521419

>>15521400
>that fixed WR watches are only good +25% of their rating is baseless

can *any* fixed rate watch go up to 300%, hell even 400% of its own rating (vostok) ? find me one, please!

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>>15521119
They also look bad on their metal bracelet. Those lugs are way too fat. The transition from lugs to band is visually too quick. It needs skinnier lugs again. The old cases had such great and simple design, and good proportions. Amazing how corpo managed to fuck this up in a company with such a budget and experience.

>> No.15521423

>>15521420
The maxi case is also significantly less comfortable so really they just suck ass in every possible way

>> No.15521426

>>15521419
>can *any* fixed rate watch go up to 300%, hell even 400% of its own rating (vostok) ? find me one, please!

Here you go:
https://watchesbysjx.com/2015/06/seiko-marinemaster-tuna-diver-survives-pacific-ocean-plunge-to-depth-of-4299-metres.html#:~:text=Seiko%20Marinemaster%20“Tuna”%20Diver%20Survives,Of%204299%20Metres%20%7C%20SJX%20Watches

1000m rating, reached a depth of 4299m

>> No.15521431

>>15520969
Way better. Always hated these matte shitter cases.

>> No.15521433

>>15521411
I see you don't have an answer and have resorted to nonsense. All I wanted clarification on was your claim that fixed rating watches typically only go +25% of their WR rating. You Skooled yourself by linking to the ISO standard which proved they are tested to +25% as wiggle room. This states nothing about their real world performance. It's the exact same situation as a Vostok being 200M WR but they can go higher.

>> No.15521439

>>15520954
FUCK OFF YOU MASSIVE, WHINY, FAGGY VOICED JEW! GO FIND YOUR OWN TOPICS, YOU CUNT.

I love how he is so fucking jewy, that he, mostly only has pictures of the watches he talks about. Others at least get real product.

>> No.15521442

>>15521426
>huge ass dinnerplate case, all sorts of meme materials just to be on par with a $50 shitter made by ivan

looool. Thanks for showing us how inelegant fixed rate divers are. Total jokes of "engineering"

hurr durr me just make watch thick and fat

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>>15520524
Wear a plastic shitter on a leather strap when you go out for some bratwurst and sauerkraut cocktail bar.

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>>15521442
>huge ass dinnerplate case
That's mostly the shroud, which has nothing to do with water resistance. The actual case of a tuna is small, see pic.

>all sorts of meme materials
ti is just for lightness and corrosion resistance.

You're an idiot, you know that?

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>>15520524
Also, go to feldherrnhalle and flex a bit with your, preferably german shitter. Or take the casio and have it soak up the flair.

>> No.15521481

I have to say the vostok fanboys are getting gaped ITT.

>> No.15521489

>>15521420
>fat maxi case
Is the maxi just on the 39mm OP?
Is it better on the 36mm?
Thanks

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>>15521489
Probably not. I have no comparison pic but look how the 34 vs 36 mm (doubled 3,6,9 indices) look like. They kept their retarded design language even on the 34mm version.

>> No.15521517

Reminder that Vostoks are made with QC. One might survive 800 meters of water. Another one might dissolve in water. One might keep time at +-2 s per day. Another one migh just spontaneously combust for no reason at any time.

>> No.15521519

>>15521517
With Russian QC, meant to say.

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>>15521517
True. But for that price it's a fun gamble that people are willing to take. If they had a single design that appealed to me,i'd do it too. Only like the 1967 but the case is too big in reality and fucks up proportions.
This dial in a pretty case and i'm sold.

>> No.15521544
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15521544

Behold, the modern-day luxury successor to the WWII Flieger watch.

>43mm
>full-size manual movement with authentic Flieger-like architecture

All finished to the utmost degree.

Instead of that Odysseus abomination, this is the "sporty" watch Lange should have released, maybe with a little more of a Flieger dial.

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15521549

Red or white seconds hand?

>> No.15521551

>>15521549
White. A red one looks fresh and gives a “pop of colour” for about an hour before you start getting tired of it and eventually hating it.

>> No.15521556

>>15521505
Right, they are all too square looking. The lugs aren't too long but they are too wide. It should all work together but it just doesn't.

The crown and hands don't fit the rest of the elements of the watch.

>> No.15521563

>>15521544
The Odysseus is a cool watch it's just that the bracelet is fucking stupid

>> No.15521568

>>15521549
White is abnormal for glorious BOCTOK.

>> No.15521578

>>15521544
That's a dress watch. It's not a damn sports watch or even a smart casual like the Odysseus.

>> No.15521580

>>15521549
Clean that fucking dial before you put that shit back together

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>>15521580
Pssh pssh

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>>15521551
I agree

>> No.15521613

>>15521423
Just the weight or is there more? But i can agree, i don't see anything good in a maxi case.

>> No.15521624

>>15521613
Some people like weight because the feeble human mind equates weight to quality and some just like having a substantial weight to feel the watch on them at all times.
But it's really the proportions and the size of the Maxi case that make it uncomfortable. What seems like a slight upshift in proportions makes it lie less stable on the wrist. It's just bad case design.

>> No.15521635

>>15521624
>equates weight to quality
>feel the watch on them at all times

I understand that this is the NPC variant. They are numb already so they need to be reminded by force and pressure. I prefer light watches that don't annoy me, because my turbo autism gives me great situational awareness and also makes it harder to ignore uncomfortable stuff. Which is imo the better way. Normies tend to ignore everything about their body and then wonder why they have such problems later.

I kinda get what you mean with the less stable position on the wrist. Wish i could test it out with a few vintage models vs a few maxi case ones.

>> No.15521636

>>15521147

What type of accent is this, class wise?

Is it lower class? I can’t stand it.

>> No.15521657

>>15521636

Talking about the thot btw

>> No.15521679

New:
>>15521677
>>15521677
>>15521677

>> No.15521685

>>15521636
>>15521657
It's definitely not upper class or posh, but it's not absolute lowest class prole either. Kind of a north of London public school kind of accent,.

>> No.15521873

>>15520134
patrician

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Rate pls

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>>15520871
I misread the hallmark, it's from 1912
Still the oldest piece of tech I got though

>> No.15523125

>>15518797
>/wt/ Watch Thread Anonymous 08/27/20(Thu)14:02:34 No.1
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