/fa/ - Fashion

>Day 45 of waiting for my Neptune to arrive

>>15509432
Only 45?

>>15509432
day 274 of looking for an oris pointer date 7461 or rado world travel in not a disgusting condition.

"I received my new Orient watch today and I'm finding that the rotor makes a distinctive rattling sound--I can definitely feel it wobble as well, much more than any other watch I've had, when you move the watch around a bit it's pretty loud as you can clearly hear it from across the room. Does everyone accept this as normal w/ Orient's watches--"

>I've handled 2 Orient watches, both not mine. I realized that the rotor is really loud and i can feel it moving.. it has this 'springy' feeling to it and guess what, i love it.

>Yeah, based on my Worldtimer I'd definitely say the wobble and noise are "features" and not "bugs". It is a very efficient winder as well. :-!

>Orient non hacking non winding movements have a unique sound when winding, sounds like the watch is full of water. I love the sound I love the wobble. They wind in both directions but from what I understand the swiss movements wind in one direction only.

>I like the feel of the wobble and the sound of the whirl my Orients make. I only have two Orients and they both provide me with their coolnest when I wind them, so I can only hope they all do it. Others spend hundreds, even thousands to by a watch with an ETA 7750 movement just to get the wobble and whirl. Just think how much money you have saved to get that high end feel.

whats wrong with shitter lovers..

>>15509446
>want to buy vintage
>scared of some patina
anon.....

>>15509502
there is a difference between patina and having chunks of metal missing in the case

>>15509432
absence makes the heart grow fonder

>>15509413
thread question: do you leave your chrono running?

day 1,209 of wearing the watch my parents gifted me and renouncing luxury watch consoomerism

>>15509547
what watch, anon?

Post gifted watches, pic related

>>15509517
well hmmmm
have you tried leaving a WTB listing on WUS? maybe some collector will part with his

>>15509560
Thanks for the suggestion.

Just got the GRAILMASTER

>>15509578
Next year I will buy an expensive watch, pretty much one watch collection and my cohoices are basically railmaster or black bay36. Don't know why I will end buying,and If I get the rm don't know what model, black one which appeals me more but has fauxtina or blue one that's more colorful and the blue-white-red combo does not look bad.

>>15509554
>pic related
Seneca said he liked it.

>>15509565
np. There is an oris pointer on ebay, but only 1 pic
both seem like slim pickings

>>15509578
Looks like a $150 Hamilton, why can't Omega into luxury finishing and proportions?

>>15509413
how does this watch work? i can't work out how the hands rotate

How much are you willing to blow on a watch sight unseen?
And a related question, how much would you spend on a grey market watch before you buy from an AD?
I'll start
>$1000 on both counts
I can stretch it a couple hundred more if it's a good deal, but anything further and I'm willing to pay a bit of a premium for the AD.

>>15509547
I wore for 8 years a 35eur cheap and reliable casio edifice. Current Casio royale already has 3-4 years.

>>15509647
the hands are on transparent plastic discs so they look like they are floating
its more of a vintage novelty

pic related, the seconds hand is the ball

>>15509632
Yeah lol no. The dial is spectacular irl, the dial has so many colors depending on the lighting

>>15509413

>>15509578
grats anon
show us some pics when you can

Forgot to wear my watch today, felt naked. How do people work without a watch?

>>15509578
Nice. What's the going rate on one of those these days? Clean looking watch.

>>15509695
Is it really though, it just seems cheap as shit, all the surfaces look plastic.

>>15509578
Really nice. One of those watches I completely dismissed at first sight but which has grown a lot on me.

>>15509714
Is there a Toejam&Earl watch though?

>>15509578
looks cheap and gay
the old railmaster from around 15 years ago was much better looking even if the caliber was shittier than this flat shit that looks like something out of swatch's lower tiers
lower than omega already is i mean
why does omega keep fucking up?
they should go back rather than forwards

>be wristlet
>watch is already an orient tristar sized for asian poors
>have to remove ALL the extra links plus go down 2 holes on the microadjust to even make the watch fit

>>15509760
3-3.5k I would say. It's a pretty decent deal since the watch has the top tier co-axial movement

Post watches that make you furious

>>15509825
Apple Watch

>>15509817
>top tier co-axial movement
RIP

>>15509413
I feel very honored. Thanks for all the nice replies last thread. I'm very sad to inform that the strap has now fallen off completely. Will try to get a transparent strap to glue under the spooky ghosts. In the meantime I'm getting a navy blue silicone strap.
>>15509647
The ghosts are the hands! Two invisibles plastic discs are circling around the dial.

>>15509825
Just imagine literally any watch with a 4:30 date window, gets me every time.

>>15509840
I don't like the strap as much as the dial anyway, if you match the strap to the case it would probably look even better.

>>15509840
> I'm very sad to inform that the strap has now fallen off completely.
rip
there is flexible transparent pourable resin, so you *could* make a DIY mold and restore it i think...if you really want to
i have seen another anon here with the same watch, and his is on a 3rd party strap as well. So it seems like the OG straps are prone to inevitable deterioration .

>>15509897
I really don't think you can get one in nice condition without breaking the strap when you fit it. Nothing I could do about it really. Was thinking this, black or navy blue silicone

First time buyer here. I want a nice elegant GMT (non-diver) for the office. Should I blow my budget on one good one (3000$)? Or should I get a 500$ one for daily use? Some anon said if you use a watch daily, then buy an expensive one. I'm not planning on creating a huge collection short term, I would be fine with a one watch collection for a while. Maybe I get a beater for working out or something but that's not important for budget. I'm currently thinking of a new Sinn 6060. It would be my entire budget almost. But I read on some other boomer forums that the price/value is bad on this, can anyone give their opinion on it?

>>15509834
?

>>15509909
>if you use a watch daily, then buy an expensive one
?
i'd be terrified to wear an truly expensive watch daily. Imagine going about and accidentally hitting it on a handrail or something. most daily beaters that people wear arent expensive, no fear in actually wearing and not having to baby it

>>15509909
I should add that I want a discrete watch, nothing over 40mm.

>>15509922
well the argument is that if you wear something daily, you get the most value out of it. so if you buy something that has the highest value, you get the most value from wearing it constantly. it's just an office job, nothing manual. I think I can take care of it, especially if it slips under the shirt easily.

>>15509922
>i'd be terrified to wear an truly expensive watch daily.
He's not talking about actual expensive watches, just $3-10k entry level luxury ones.

>>15509909
grand seiko GMTs are quite aesthetic

Reminder that if you order from Japan there is a possibility that your package has been handled by a cute japanese girl.

Swissfags btfo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8A_Hu_WqeQ

>>15509922
I don’t get this. Once you’ve bought the watch the money is already gone. Even in the worst case scenario where the watch is completely destroyed, you’re just out of the money you already budgeted for the watch and can go back to wearing your Casio. This assumes you didn’t spend more than you can afford.
Watches are meant to be enjoyed, regardless of the price.

>>15510015
thats like saying its okay to buy a ferrari and wreck it the next day because you can just go back to taking the bus or whatever
also,
>what is resale value
>what is extra servicing costs if you damage it

>>15509554
>post gifted watches
I wish I could show how the battery died after 8 months
I have since broken up with the gifter for other reasons

>>15509909
I’d rather buy one expensive watch than a few lower price, but that’s just personal preference.
People will claim that price/value is bad on anything but Rolex basically. The main question is if you are comfortable spending x amount on a specific watch.

>>15510020
It’s not okay, but the risk of it happening is hopefully low enough that you don’t just leave it in the carhole all the time.
Part of my point is also that you really shouldn’t buy a Ferrari (or a Royal Oak or whatever) if it represents such a deep cut to your finances that your new possession gives you bad nerves.

>>15510021
tbf it doesnt look as offensive as most other MVMT watches
was the sex at least good?

>>15510036
yeah but it's more telling when I explicitly tried to steer her away from MVMT and she still got it for me. I think that reflects the problems I had with her
sex was okay but she kept trying to guilt me into it while on her period which felt super weird. more than once she lied about it having ended already and I got blood on my dick

>>15509945
being so pathetic that a girl touching the packaging box, not even the actual box makes you coom

>>15509840
can you set the time so we can see it in action?

>>15509784
You're not alone mate, I had to buy one of these for all my leather bracelets

>>15510069
It's at my desk at the school atm. Working on it tomorrow. Ill post something by then!

>>15509474
My Esteem can be kinda loud if you really shake it. No way are you hearing it from across the room, or even sitting next to me for that matter. Its a $120 watch, who cares?

>>15510020
no it's not at all. think about it, if you're consistent your risk doesn't suddenly shoot up just because you're driving a different car. (setting aside driving ability and performance because that doesn't apply to watches obviously) locking something away in a safe for special occasions is retarded. if the shit you own regularly ends up in beat up order then stop being a clumsy fuck, otherwise service every 3-4 years for cleaning and you'll be fine. good example is mobile phones, most people i know who aren't retards have never broken their phone from dropping it. yet we all know people who always seem to have a broken or cracked screen. you can wear a rolex and manage the risk to it otherwise no one would wear them.

>>15510043
>he doesnt wanna get blood on his dick

>>15510021
wait lmao, are you telling me that she KNEW you were into watches and despite you steering her away she still got you the mvmt? oof

>new 2020 "seiko 5 sports"
>still get this poor of a chapter ring alignment

does seiko not care anymore?

>>15510131
jesus fucking christ

seikofags on suicide alert
>BUT MUH J VARIANT

>>15510111
yessir

>>15510131
Seiko is legendary for chapter ring misalignment

>>15509784
wtf r u talking about?! asians are genetically wristlets already. unless you are a child there is no reason to downsize

>>15510131
you get what you pay for

>>15509547
Day 6,271 of wearing the casio my brother gifted me
Someday I'll escape Shitter Island
Someday...

>>15510131
that alignment is so far off its on another continent, kek

you'd think that with the new models seiko would have come up with a better system to prevent this kind of bs. Imagine the number of customers who made a fuss and returned their watches for a new replacement.

Been wearing this casio beater, for when i am working in the kitchen, day in and day out, for five years. Bought it for 60 dollars and it never failed me. I have a dress watch and a watch for when i am not working. I wanted to ask if there is any watch in your knowledge that i could replace my old pal here with, for when the time comes that the chrome will be a lot more stitched and by all means not presentable anymore. I was thinking of titanium built. But some anons suggested me otherwise.

>>15510169
>anon, what day is it?
uhhh... it's "Sday Wedn"

>>15510169
You could probably get it polished if it is so important to you.

>>15510178
judging by the time, the day wheel is probably in the process of switching.
>>15510169
you could get another casio(edifice)($100-$250+), a gshock($50 and up), or a titanium citizen (many not even $500).

>>15510178
Yeah the date dial wasn't working since day one.

>>15510180
It is what i bought in a wim with my first bucks as a 16 years old, that is 50 bucks a week working in my dads friend garage, to get my allowance. This is chrome layered can i possibly revive it's shininess?

>>15510082
>>15509784
I have the opposite problem, none of the leather straps are ever long enough for me.

>>15510195
if its brass or whatever it can be refinished, replated and then polished..but of course the costs..not sure how much it would be

I think theres charm in leaving it "as is". The wear is a watch well worn. You could leave it as a memento and just buy a new beater.
I have sneakers with gaping holes in them, but Ive never thrown them away, my shoes when I was 17.

>>15509840
RIP Anons strap
1999-2020
We hardly knew ye

>>15510205
how big are your wrists? ive seen "extra long" leather straps for sale. And some natoes can be very long as well.

>>15510169
Damn. A lot of soul in that watch

>>15510082
How much did you pay for it?

Which bezel for my SKX, left or right?

>>15510270
I'd take the right bezel & left bezel insert personally.

>>15510270
I already answered this. left. having a minute timer is more useful than a pseudo-GMT, especially when you can use both as a GMT

>>15510270
Why do you keep asking this in like 3 different /wt/ threads?
Left

>>15510273
Thanks for your input
>>15510274
Sorry I meant the bezel, not bezel insert

>>15510284
oh for the bezel definitely right

>>15510279
Because I need /fa/'s input on everything obviously
>>15510287
Cool thanks

>>15510066

Yeah bitch, at least my package was handled by the hands of a cute girl who has at some point performed lude acts with her very own hands.

Can you say the same? No.

>>15510145
yeh bullet dodged there mate

>>15510312
How would you know mine hasn't?

>>15509939
>10k isn't expensive
the fuck
>>15510043
the fuck

is a mechanical beater for cooking, working out, labour around the house a dumb idea and should i go for a quarz one? or do used vintage automatics hold up?

>>15510312
there is also the possibility of they being handled by faceless men.

>>15510410
quartz is objectively far more durable but they also have no soul and often feel "empty"

people wore mechanicals into the vietnam war in the 70s.
>do used vintage automatics hold up?
depends. YMMV

>>15510413
which automatics make the most durable beaters? (and have soul)

>>15510247
Around $16

There's loads of different models for all kinds of applications. For a watch, though, you want to go small. Mine's 1.5mm which works great

>>15510082
>not using a nail and a hammer

>>15510430
seiko 5

>>15510430
vostok or a nh35 shitter diver, both are robust and usually come in waterproof chunky cases and can be cheaply replaced if anything should happen.

>>15510479
Vostok in particular is nice for the acrylic crystal, which lets you buff off many a minor scratch that'd permanently mar mineral glass.

>>15510479
can confirm both. Especially vostok. bent a spring bar trying to take the god awful bracelet off without a tool and then used said springbar with a rubber strap. That bastard few off my wrist not once but twice onto concrete and still works. gains 60 secs a day but it might have before i dropped it for all i know kek

>>15510450
kek
least soul mechanical watch out there

>>15509945
Reminder that if you order from Russia there is a possibility that your package has been smuggled up the ass by an ugly Russian dude to hide it from Soviet secret police.

Nipponesefags btfo

>>15510431
thanks for the info

>>15510169
Victorinox

>>15510491
i have a old vostok, at least 30 years old (handwind only). Still runs like a champ even though it has never been serviced as far as I can tell. The mainspring is starting to slip inside the barrel and occasionally when winding it will "zip" and unwind itself. If i shake it hard the watch will temporarily stop for a second before moving again. But other than that it keeps great time. (+15-20 a day)

Opinions on this vs. an omega (planet ocean or aqua terra)? Not sure what to get

I've heard reviewers say it feels like a watch twice its price

>>15510590
>I've heard reviewers say it feels like a watch twice its price
Doesn't matter, it's not. So when anyone asks how much it cost and what the positioning of it is in the brand rankings, you'll be just as embarrassed as if you got a cheap fashion quartz shitter.

>>15510592
Normies don't know any brand except rolex so they'll think it's shit either way

>>15510592
>what the positioning of it is in the brand rankings
has a human ever asked another human this? you guys are weird. i got the blue bb58 and it is an extraordinary deal. you should get a pelagos if you have an average or above wrist and are wanting to be more manly though.

>>15510590
>>15510604
and to add, planet oceans are dinner plates and age out of style quickly, and aqua terra r pretty tacky unfortunately. if you want an omega get a blue diver 300, another amazing deal in entry-level luxury. if you're not white, the new constellations may be a nice choice, but wait for reviews from buyers on those.

new alpinist arrived.
what’s the best site for natos?

>>15510628
just put it on a nice leather strap like it deserves and not a shitty overplayed nato

>>15510604
>has a human ever asked another human this?
Everyone who cares about it knows, it's not like they don't have instagram. And they can just google the watch in 0.5 seconds.

>>15510617
>aqua terra is tacky
you wut
it is perhaps the least tacky and most elegant sports watch omega has

In decades of wearing watches from the cheapest shitters to Rolexs and Omegas the only time anyone has ever asked about my watch was when I was wearing a Seiko Monster

>>15510632
yeah natos are kinda gay but I want something lowkey and comfy for the heat.

>>15510643
Well yeah everyone sees good watches all the time, when it's a shitter they don't know what it is so they'll ask in hopes it's some kind of a RM-tier watch or some shit.

>>15510647
No, the point is that 99.9999% of people don't give a shit about your watch no matter what it is unless it looks very different, so thinking what other people care about your watch, is retarded. Nobody cares. And even other watchfags won't say anything because they're typically self-absorbed and they only care about their own watch.

>>15510169
fellow kitchen bro here.
I've been wearing a timex weekender on a nato strap for the last 5 years. inventory the walk-in freezer then immediately dunk arm in hot dishwater? no problem.
less impressive than your particular casio, but hey, casio isn't especially impressive at any price.

>>15510652
Yeah ok also they don't care if you wear rags or Hugo Boss, and they don't care if you have a stinky shit on your head or a nice toupee.

>>15510645
not him but maybe consider a rally leather or perlon strap.
>>15510647
>>15510665
stop being so insecure and hoping that strangers will ask you about your watch so you can flex

>>15510668
They don't have to ask if you have a good watch lmfao.

>>15510645
try a perlon
they are a bit effete but they look very refined, perfect for a classier watch like the alpinist, and they are extremely comfy. make sure you get one with a decent buckle and not some thin stamped shit.

>>15510617
not the 39.5mm, it is their best model imo

>>15510676
ive only started being into watches recently and the 1st compliment was on a sub $100 seiko5 shitter, a female colleague said it looks very nice. And that was it. Not everything is a dick measuring contest you seem desperate

>>15510668
>>15510678
I’ll look into perlon, thanks

>>15510665
yeah, normies care about that stuff but they simply don't notice watches. they're small and they don't care. your clothes and what's on your head is very noticeable.

>>15510685
he's trolling

J A P A N I C E

>using hugo boss as an example of good shit
Why do you constantly out yourself as a poorfag?

>>15510695
The right one, what's that?
It made me wonder if Grand Seiko will ever put out a full yellow or rose gold day+date "Snowflake" with a bracelet on the level of Rolex. Because right now the designs are great on a technical level but I want something more understated in terms of size plus GS's bracelets so far have all been underwhelming.

>>15510681
Yeah I bet she'd say the same thing if she saw your dick.

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/horlogerie-_how-i-built-my-own-swiss-watch---in-a-day/45968000

for over $2k you get a private watchmaking class, disassemble your movement, rebuild it, then pick case etc and finish it.
the stupid bastard in the video fails to say which movement (or if you pick) neither did he show the finished watch, which would be the logical end of a fucking build video.
but anyway it looks like a cool thing to do, depending on what he doesn't show.

>>15510704
SUR322 or something like that. My wife wanted a new dressy casual watch after seeing my SARX035 and landed on that.

>>15510592
It's cute you think literally anyone on earth would know or care about your made up watch rankings and even have a single clue about watches outside of Rolex.
You can safely get a Tudor for less, and feel good about owning a great watch for a great price

>>15510716
>$3k for a one day class
((( )))
bit too rich for my taste

>Seiko trying AGAIN to push this shitty dress watch.

Top. Fucking. Kek.

>>15510721
>You can safely get a Tudor for less, and feel good about owning a great watch for a great price
Until anyone asks what it is or looks it up out of curiosity.

>>15510719
Not bad looking, would be an absolute killer deal if it was automatic. 36 mm with classic styling and a sapphire crystal for under 300 USD is pretty neat.

>>15510779
what's wrong with it?

>>15509632
The idea is making a tool watch, not a luxury looking watch,not every watch must be shiny.

>>15510779
crown seems abit big but its quite nice, actually. The styling is rather old school 60s which is appreciated

how much?

>>15510785
>Until anyone asks what it is or looks it up out of curiosity.
No one will ever do this outside of turbo-watch autists

>>15510785
Anyone that looks up Tudor will see a luxury watch brand that makes good designs. If they know anything at all about watches they'll see they make COSC certified in-house movements for a great price for what you're getting
Nice try, faggot

>>15510797
>>15510802
can you guys stop replying to the troll thats going around in circles

>>15510790
I don't mind ir personally, but for a dress watch it's a bit too flashy.

>>15510804
Obviously they don't possess the ability to do that

>>15510806
But that seems to be what Seiko wants in their dress watches. Their dress watches tend to be flashier like the Cocktail Times

>>15510806
>>15510779
if the watch is smaller at 36mm instead of the 38.5mm, and the dial in guilloche + a finer resolution instead of this overly glossy thing it would be killer. Right now its a bit loud, yes.

>>15510802
They'll google tudor vs rolex, is tudor like rolex, which is better, rolex or tudor, tudor rolex prices, and so on.

>>15510779
That guilloche is pretty gorgeous to be honest.

>>15510590
>I've heard reviewers say it feels like a watch twice its price

That means shit since all luxury watches prices are inflated as fuck and the price-quality ratio is not linear. But an Omega for sure will have a better finishing and you can see the amazing looking movement.
But the purchase should be decided on what you like, bb58 is a nice watch but I don't think is on the same range as Omega.Tudor Pelagos on the other way, it looks like a better watch considering the price.

>>15510827
Again, it's cute you think there's anyone alive that would actually do that. Must be nice to be so oblivious to the real world

>>15510849
Pelagos would be perfrct if it had 1 less lime of text on the bottom

>>15510835

stop saying guilloche

>>15510861
Sorry, guilloché.

>>15510861
from now on your name is guilloche

>>15510859
That's always been by biggest issue with it, along with the 42mm case. I'd prefer smaller.
But fuck that entire novel of text they have on the dial. Looks disgusting

>>15510853
Everyone with internet access will do that, and everyone has a smartphone. You're quickly approaching an age where a snapshot of you will automatically identify not only who you are via facial recognition, and give the person who films you all the possible info about you in an easily digestible format, including reviews of you written by others (abbreviated to a number/star rating unless you dig into it), but exactly what you're wearing and how much it costs. Augmented reality with info about everyone and everything is coming very soon, right now you still have to do it somewhat by hand but every step of it has already been implemented.

>>15510867
>>15510859
TUDOR
GENEVE
PELAGOS
CHRONOMETER
OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED
ROTOR SELF-WINDING
500m - 1640ft
SWISS MADE

>>15510872
seriously what the fuck were they thinking
if it just said
PELAGOS
CERTIFIED CHRONOMETER
AUTOMATIC
500M
it would be fucking perfect

>>15510872
There is no reason at all there should be "rotor self winding" on the dial.

>>15510877
If they didn't put that there you might think they were copying Rolex

>>15510883
No one thinks they're copying Rolex except the one giga-faggot in this thread

>>15510872

why can you just put the fucking brand on the watch and end it there?

christ if you spend thousands on a watch you know what it does.

>>15510886
It was a joke bro

>>15510888
>nazi cross at the 12 o'clock position.

Yikes good luck holding a job.

>>15510888
you now realize rolex created the trend of putting every feature on the watch face, like g-shock
rolex is responsible singlehandedly for some of the worst watch trends

>>15510888
there is some argument that text on the bottom half balances the logo at the top.

but 1-2 lines is enough, rest is excessive

>>15510889
Good one

>>15510872
>>15510876
It's made that way so you always have something to read when you are on the toilet.

>>15510872
This is actually the sole reason I did not buy a Pelagos

>>15510872

i like it. it’s like a nice little story that you can read any time you’re bored.

>>15510893
It probably started with swiss shitters with antichoc, automatique,number of jewels... on the dial to show people they were quality watches and not shitters. I dislike that, I like clean dials, on them only the logo should be shown.

Neat

>>15510942
Looks nice but the 41mm diameter & ~14mm thickness kills it for me. Are there no modern 36mm chronographs?

>>15510952
41mm is fine, you wristlet. 14mm thickness is shit though.
And good look finding a modern watch in 36mm ever that looks good

>>15510905
Tudor Pelagos
For Sale
Never Worn

>>15510962
My diver is 41mm, I'm just not tempted by any chrono that's the same size as it.

>>15510952

41mm is pretty acceptable for a chrono. But yeah 14mm is pretty gay (homosexual)

im obsessed—feels good lads

i just ordered this joseph bonnie tropic strap. i’ll let you guys know what it’s like after i receive it.

>>15510726
you keep the watch.
so it's like buying a watch, except you actually get to make it yourself and style it how you like.

>>15510270
Right....you're not going diving, but you might leave you're own timezone someday

>>15511072
>single keeper
>120mm/75mm length
Sounds promising. A number of the other tropic straps I've seen either have two keepers or are too long.

>>15511150
can't you just remove the other keeper

>>15511162
Sure, but usually when there are two keepers each one is thinner than the straps that just have one.

>>15511181
then wouldnt it be better to have 2 so you can distribute them however you like

>>15511186
One keeper is how the originals were.

>>15510892
Wtf I love VC now

>>15511188
So? Maybe 2 keepers is a better design

>>15511238
Sure, if you care more about that than it being as close to the originals as possible then you'd get two keepers.

>>15511244
So then take a keeper off

>>15511254
We've already been over this anon. The ones with two keepers usually have thinner keepers. It all just boils down to if you care more about originality or not.

just ordered this baby :)

>>15511162
>>15511254
have you ever considered the keeper's feelings? how can you just take it off and throw it into the trash. What has it done to you to deserve such heartlessness

Hi-beat vs spring drive? Which should I get when I get a GS later this year

>>15511260
Is this watch from a Kojima game or did he just design it?

>>15511260
reminds me of that giant diesel watch..

>>15511264
Am I my brother's keeper?

>>15511265
I feel like Spring Drive is objectively superior in every way unless you want pure mechanical muh soul bullshit. The only thing bad about Spring Drive is that, most likely, there will be no way to service it besides sending it to GS. But Spring Drive seems like it's not that prone to wear so this issue may come up like twice in your entire lifetime.
Hi-Beats are annoying to service too but there are probably independent watch repairers who can do it so you're not forced to send it to Seiko. I'm not sure how GS Hi-Beats are done, because they might have some cutting edge technology and engineering put into theirs, but high beat movements inherently have a lot of wear because they're literally beating faster, so the ease of service is offset by you likely having to service it more... though if the movement is as they say, you will still be able to go 10+ years without needing to service it.

>>15511270
no but you bought the strap (and therefore the keeper) so now you are their owner. As their owner you are fully responsible for their well being, this is an unspoken contract. It'd be sad that the keeper was created to hold a strap in and now it will never get to do it. As it lies in the trash or in a dark drawer its feelings of dejection would be immense.

It seems that in today's day and age everything is disposable now. Society has truly become callous and cold.

>>15511277
Great post my friend.
I like watches for the horological aspect of them. Tiny fucking machines ticking away as accurate as they are and all that. So obviously hi-beat is cool as it's pure automatic. But you're correct about the servicing and beating faster stuff.
Spring drive is as fuck and it's crazy accurate, so that's obviously cool to think about too.
Fugg, I just need to keep looking at pics. I'll probably just get a snowflake anyway as the dial is fucking incredible.

>>15511284
As much as high beats intrigue me, Spring Drive is so unique and the story behind it is so cool. High beats are classic watchmaking pushed to the limit, Spring Drive is the creation of something totally new, one guy's brainchild 30 years in the making, harmonizing the past and present. It's seriously cool and it pisses me off when people say it's "just quartz." I want a Spring Drive myself but the money is tight because of COVID so I had to back off. But I was able to see one at a boutique in my city and the way the second hand just floats across the dial is really something else.

>>15511284
nearly all of the best dials are on hibeat though

>>15511293
That's my problem. Overall, Spring Drive is the cooler better movement. Yes, SD has the snowflake dial and the cherry blossom dials, but hi-beat has way better looking dials overall, even if the movement isn't as cool.
This is one of the hardest decisions of my life

>>15511293
false, 9f has the best dial ever. FULL PENIS QUARTZ DIAL

>>15509413
>>15509840
i'd wear this any day

>> Your budget
$200
>> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
dress
>> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
dun care
>> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
no complications, including day/date/etc
domed sapphire
>> Wrist size or desired watch size
37-40mm

>>15511355
RM 52-01

>there are now nh35 bronze divers with sapphire, 200WR and superlume at only $200

honestly big brands have such poor value

>>15511293
yeah spring drive is shit hot and that but I'm more interested in being able to service my watch at some point.
some of the 28'800 bph GS's still like fucking bitching imo

>>15511504
I would never buy a Grand Seiko that actually says "Seiko" on it. Only the models with just "GS" are ones I'd ever consider

>>15511504
>Seiko Grand Seiko Grand Seiko

>>15511513
>>15511514
Eh, I'm the opposite. I won't buy any that have 'GS' at the top. Each his own.

>>15511303
what makes that watch GMT at all lol

>>15511534
nvm im dumb

>>15511526
Seiko is known as a shitter brand. The reason they started only putting GS on the dials is to distance themselves from the shitter part of their company.

>>15511514
>>15511526
Thank god they rectified the horrible branding.
No more clashing, redundant, repetitive typography.

Also, looks much nicer now with the "GS" and "Grand Seiko" below it forming a nice triangle following the inner contour of the upper dial semicircle.
The best ones have nothing in the lower half.

>>15511293
>>15511303
>>15511504
>>15511565
Grand Seiko is shit, get a TUDOR instead.

Is Sellita the redpilled movement of choice for sticking it to Swatch group jewry? Talked to my local watchmaker today and he says that Sellita's actually sorted out some of the known issues with the ETA 2824-2, like the delicate winding, apparently by putting an extra jewel below the ratchet wheel. He wouldn't comment on the overall reliability of both, but said that he generally sees less Sellitas coming in due to wear from handwinding.

>>15511647
Selitta has more problems straight out of the box, at least thats what my watchmaker says.
I'd go ETA knowing you can get the parts in perpetuity because Selitta is around.

Other competitors in the area like Soprod are also apparently quite good, Soprod a10 is literally a Seiko 4L movement made to fit in ETA cases.

>>15511627
Tudor is shit, get an Invicta instead.

>>15511661
Says the neckbeard weeb.

>>15511661
>>15511665
both are neckbeard weeb shit

>>15511665
Stay mad, bitch nigga

>>15511667
Agreed, and you're a discord cuck.

>>15509632
How many modern Omega's have you held, anon?

>>15511701
All of them, please start shilling Grand Seiko.

>>15511355
Find a used frankenSeiko from the Phillipines on ebay.

>$217'000 FOR A ROLEX ON A NATO

>A RARE wristwatch has sold for a staggering £165,200 - the same price as a three-bedroom house in Acocks Green - a record for the Birmingham firm that auctioned the timepiece.
>The stainless steel Rolex Military Submariner, used by British Special Forces, was the star lot in Jewellery Quarter firm Fellows' Monday auction.
>One of only 1,200 made in the 1970s, the lot sparked a fierce bidding war between five individuals.
>Of the 1,200 made, only 200 are known to be still in circulation.
>The one sold, which featured a grey nylon NATO style strap, was produced in 1978.

>>15511751
fucking rolex fans are worse than seikofags

>>15511451
that don't look right

>>15510785
>what is that?
>a Tudor
>what's a Tudor?
>a watch

A Tudor will always be better than a Asian produced watch.

>>15511808
Still worse than french/german produced watch

swiss fags seethe harder

Are'' in house ETA based'' truly in house movements or just slightly modified ETA movements?, would a watchmaker repair them with average ETA movements?

>>15511824
>>15511824
That depends, which brand? Most of them replace with similar parts for aesthetics or finish them a bit different, and a few may replace parts with something similar for possible increased reliability like Sinn and Damasko.

>>15510892
last time i was in harrods i went to the much touted watch hall section
as i perused the VC alcove some gigantic jabba arab came and sat down and proclaimed loudly to the SA that VC was his favourite brand
he probably bought another tourbillon or some shit that day
crusader symbol on his watch? haram but he didn't care
long story short: if you can put up with the desert and their bullshit, you can always find work with the arabs for good pay
at least until we reach peak oil in which case they're fucked

>>15511821
Nice dinner plate

>>15510942
This is the first breitling that I didn't immediately think was a cluttered piece of hideous shit. It's legitimately surprising in fact.

>>15511835
I was thinking about Sinn, they have a chrono I like, the sinn140,apparently the movement is a modified ETA valjoux to make it work on a similar way to a Lemania 5100.

>>15511851
If you mean the DIAPAL ones you probably wouldn't want to replace the Sinn special parts with regular ones from a basic ETA movement even if you could. Also note that you still need to get it serviced even though it says oil free.

>>15511265
HB. SD is an answer to a question nobody asked, 30 years after the question was even remotely relevant.
Both have to be sent back to jp to be serviced, though seiko is training watchmakers that can handle certain things about both kinds of movements but it depends on your region. Likelihood is that if it's just a routine service it can be done domestically, unless you live in whogivesafuckistan or something.
I don't deny how interesting SD is, but the fact that at the end of the day it relies on an integrated circuit rather than "just" a handful of tiny metal gears and a spring bothers me. I find the latter's ability to tell the time via such a "basic" and time honoured fashion far more interesting than something which relies on the intricacies of modern technology.

Does the SD movement's electrical components contain non-lead solder?
I'd be more inclined to just skip the middle man go for a GS quartz. Though, even then, citizen's chronomasters are more interesting than GS quartz and have arguably superior movements. Or did. I don't know whether or not seiko's come out with anything new on that front recently.

>>15511845
ty

>>15511867
Seiko lowballs everything. They say Spring Drive is supposed to be within 2s a day or something but in reality it's within half a second a day, for instance. And they rate their basic movements within 30s when practically they are within 10 in most cases.
I think in terms of performance Seiko and Citizen quartz movements are both as accurate but Citizen does try harder making 1mm thick movements and stuff

>>15511847
you've not seen these? what do you guys think

>>15510628
>NATO
Get a EULIT Perlon instead.

>>15511902
are these the 38mm models? they look alright, the minute hand seems to short though for some reason.

>>15511902
>dat bezel shape

>>15511761
They are the same, they just have more money.

>>15511867
Really nigger?
You are wondering if some smd chip you cant even see has lead in its solder?
Lead in solder isn't even dangerous unless you consume the toxic fumes when soldering it.

Ask me how do i know you are a closeted SD hater

reminder to buy based german brands who hide nazi symbols in the details

>>15511902

Did the guy who kept asking about these models ever actually fucking buy it? He posted about it for like a month straight

I just want a chubby nice girl over thirty to marry... :(

Is Drop legit?
this 4R37 seiko is being sold at $155, down from the usual $575

https://drop.com/buy/seiko-premier-ssa-watch/details

>>15510981
Pretty good

Is there any other nice models with fully lumed dials?

I want one

>>15511983
How good are Muehle-Glashuette watches in general?

>>15512189
That watch is so overpriced for what it is.

I finally found a cheap gold watch that doesnt look like busy dogshit, hooray

>>15511260
cringe

>>15512194
they are the perfect entry to luxury watches but you can go pretty high with them as well, great build quality, family owned for over a century, make every movement into their own with cute gimmicks and objective improvements (patents). basically you get extremely good value for what you pay for i think, really fair prices and they are independent. love to support manufacturers like that. compare that to glashütte original or union, both swatch assets. i see them as alange und söhne's little brother.

order from Tokyo was shipped yesterday and on a delivery truck to my mailbox today in Washington, DC, all through standard parcel delivery.

Japanese and American logistical infrastructure never ceases to amaze me.

>>15511960
>Lead in solder isn't even dangerous unless you consume the toxic fumes when soldering it.
Tell that to the dumb cunts in brussels.

Actually the worry about lead free solder is because non-lead solder is absolute shit that ensures that manufacturers' planned obsolescence comes to fruition one way or another.
Lead free solder will fail within the next 15 to 20 years.
It is 100% ass and any electrician will tell you so.
This is why older electronics just keep working, and modern crap is all destined for the scrap heap.
The EU, in its infinite "wisdom", decided that ANY item sold in the EU has to have lead-free solder. This was in either 2005 or 09. Ironically creating a situation where large amounts e-waste is guaranteed. Lmao.
Because of this statute all mass consumer electronic items have converted to lead free solder a while ago and thus all have a definite expiry date. This is the worry with the SD. The idea that it might have something that is guaranteed to shit the bed is not something you want to think about in the realm of luxury watches. Hence why luxury electronics is a dumb idea as it's all ephemeral.

Is Squale really that much of a shitter, or is it mostly the TGV effect tarnishing an otherwise good watch? The color choices on some of the divers are interesting to say the least

>>15512442
They aren't shitters, they're a respectable watch brand that makes fun, if not groundbreaking, watches with good attention to the finishing of their materials.

>>15512442
everything that isnt a $200,000 patek or similar is a shitter

Can quartz watches be serviced outside of the battery? What if the accuracy is off?

>>15512285
Why is this image so funny?

>>15512544
quartz watches dont have souls so you can just chuck it into the bin.

>>15512256
solid gold?

I need some help woth women's watches /wt/

Looking at getting her something probably quartz around 150-200 minimalist/bahaus design.

I know it's not going to be haute horlogerie. I just want to get sometging that won't shit the bed instantly.

Any advice ?

>>15512544

Cheap quartz watches, not so much.

But there are robust and serviceable Swiss and Japanese quartz watches that are built to be serviced. Usually in the $1000+ range.

>>15512613

Seiko SWDL209

>>15512544
In the cheap quartz sphere you just swap out the module if it stops working.

>>15511881
>I think in terms of performance Seiko and Citizen quartz movements are both as accurate but Citizen does try harder making 1mm thick movements and stuff
I wasn't even thinking about sheer accuracy when comparing the two overall because it's a probably a wash in regards to real use accuracy.
I was thinking about things like this:
https://youtu.be/R7ZiZM_tpas?t=128
I don't know if the GS calibres have changed that lazy date change.
Anecdotes say GS finishing is better overall but it's like you need a loupe to really give a shit about the differences.

>>15512442
You have to reassess your definitions. A shitter doesn't only mean that the watch is some $2 free shipping watch off taobao that'll break in month's time.
It's a "shitter" in that it's a nothing brand that offers no real horological nor real world monetary value because it's effectively worth 0 after you've bought it. You've dumped a lump of money on something that's aping another brand that you probably really want and all you have to show for it is a chinese made watch and some leddit wristshots and the cozy feeling that you've followed in the footsteps of some youtube shill. It's essentially a junk food watch that relies on the shillage of faggots like that guy in order to make sales. DESU no matter what you think of their quality or value this fact alone should make you wary.
In that regard it's "a shitter".

Junk food doesn't necessarily all taste bad though. If you like it that much buy it. But note that the people that buy endless shitters end up with one of those cheapo watch display boxes the got off massdrop full of crap they'll never wear again because they lacked the impulse control to save for something that they truly wanted. As long as you don't fall into that trap then do whatever, unless that's specifically your goal all along.

Remember: nobody really gives a shit what you wear on your wrist IRL. If you move in the circles of people that do notice/care then you certainly wouldn't be posting in this shitfest of all places; you'd already have bought some tacky crap. Or just bought an apple watch.

>>15512613
i was looking abit at womens watches for you and its so depressing
its an ocean of mallshit, ALL ROOK SAME design diarrhea that isnt even interesting enough to stink

maybe this one
https://www.jomashop.com/certina-watch-c017-210-16-037-00.html
https://www.jomashop.com/citizen-watch-eu6010-53e.html

>>15512682
>>15512613
but anyhow, maybe ask her what she likes and try to steer her to a proper brand at least

tfw AD says BB58 blue is a 1-2 year wait list

>>15512622
I like it but i think she wamts somethong more "scandi"

>>15512682
Its so depressing looking through womens watches she sent me a brand "nordgreen" they look nice but i know they are just made from £10 of aliexpress parts.
Its part of her birthday with some other bits, so i wanted something that would last a few years

>>15512256
Nice Sekonda homage.

>>15512682
>>15512613
>bauwauhau for waumen
can't help there but as an option look to women's citizen, seiko and orient (and alba for fashion quartz).
I think seiko and orient do some nice looking women's watches
I bought a handful of cheap auto orients tristars at a watch fair, all women's models, with the intention of gifting them to some female relatives as a christmas novelty a few years ago
they're not bad little watches
nothing valuable, but they're designed to just work for like 25 years of daily wear without service and then just die.
they have a sort of janky, late 70s charm to them
just an option to look at if you want to gift a cheap mechanical out of novelty
i've still got two that i never managed to get rid of lmao
i save them for rainy day Christmas for when i fucking can't think of anything else to give

>>15510193
Ordered the Citizen titanium echo drive. I feel it is a worthy successor

Got this coming in the post, going to put a brown alligator strap on it

>>15512745
Looks nice

>>15512758
Yeah, it looks decent for a 200 dollars beater

>>15509840
do you have the box for it? i worked at swatch and got a bunch of freebies when i started & this was one of them. love this watch.

>>15512737
Does she have hairy arms?

Anyone in EU area that maybe wants to sell a king seiko? Been looking for one thats not got a scuffed case for some time.

>also post your seikos

>>15512863
>>also post your seikos
K

>>15512869
Just as a bonus, it's a suwa caliber built by daini :^)

>>15512569
It was $100 so probably not. Still works though
>>15512739
Definitely looks derivative, theres an elegance in simplicity that I absolutely love in watches.

>>15512863
Shitter:
[x] posted
[_] not posted

Hamilton, stop giving me an erection.

>>15512869
nice one I have the same one but my LM '3d'

I love the arabic numerals

>>15512941
Is that new? It's not even terrible.

>>15512941
Casio, stop giving me the same erection, but probably 1000$ cheaper.
>casio ef527

>>15512746
Will look great. Good watch.

>>15512876
Nice Franken watch

>>15512951
Yeah, they are releasing a "Converter" line.

>>15512971
Not even in the same ballpark, not that I have anything against Casio. That'd be like saying no thanks to a Sub because the Orient Ray/Mako exists. Nothing against the budget watch, but the quality of material, finish and movement are miles apart.

>>15513024
Suwa calibers being built by daini does have some precedence y'know. Here >>>/g/63415075

>>15511260
appalling.

>>15512737
Look into Jacob Jensen available discounted on ebay et al, at least they are a real scandinavian design company with actual heritage. I'm not familiar with their current lines but their higher end models used to have serviceable swiss movements, sapphire crystals and titanium cases, with the materials and finishing well above the level of fashion shitters.

>>15512826
I do! If you have some, keep me safe!

New
>>15513105
>>15513105
>>15513105

>>15512145
Orient has a Mako XL with full lume

>>15510131
Surely a peg or something going into a hole drilled in the dial would prevent this. I mean, if I was this bad at chapter ring alignment, I'd just get rid of the fucking things or print markers on the dial.

I'm getting a Hirsch Ranger for my black Sarb 33, can I get the brown one or should it match the dial?

>>15512145
timex expedition series