/fa/ - Fashion

...for me to fake

I use these.

Pilot G2 0.3mm

Parker Jotter, the all steel version. I havel like 2 or 3 in my bag. ~10$
An upgrade (but kind of geeky) would be the fisher space pen (bullet version for me) ~40$
i really don't see the value of a more expensive ballpoint pen, and buying a 1600$ montblanc meisterstück is only kind of worth it and only if you really like writing with fountain pens.

tl,dr, nobody gives a fuck about your pen as long as its not dirty/broken

>>15430188
The only reason you should ever spend that much on a pen is if you're in a Japanese/Korean run business

Otherwise just get a fucking normal Pilot pen

>>15430354
>The only reason you should ever spend that much on a pen is if you're rich

>>15430188
i spent 15 bucks on 5 pens and im an artist
you should spend less

OP as with all fashion I think it's important to consider the purpose of the fashion statement.

I would only spend an inordinate amount of money (ie a Mont Blanc) if you are running an ultra luxury white glove type of business (ie: Ivy League law firm). I know physicians who use Lamy pens for their personal writings (signing prescriptions) but don't lend them out to people.

A really great middle ground, if you aren't in a white glove industry, is to have "promotional pens". I've seen independent surgical centers give these to surgeons, lawyers give them to clients, etc. This is a super great middle ground option, and everybody loves getting pens.

You can even have G2s custom made, and everybody knows these are the best do-it-all pens.

https://www.pens.com/site/products/WRT-11572

I have this. It's really nice. Nice grip. Nice weight. That being said there's definitively some cheaper pens I've used that I've wished wouldn't run out so I stopped using them. I'll post a pic of one if I find it. G2s are widely used/prefered when you actually NEED a functional pen to use. Ask any business person when you hit the office aisle they'll say the g2s.

>>15430215
Our whole office/lab uses these including QA who sign their name upwards of 1000 times a day.

I learned to turn a lathe as a younger man, and I recommend all young professional men do the same. You can buy a block of Cocobolo or Wenge for a darker finish, but I recommend Bethlehem Olivewood, it’s light in color and in weight, with beautiful grain patterns. Then just find a pen kit that matches your preferences and the wood, and you will have better pens than 99.9% of everyone in your field.

I got this complete set for $15 at the grocery store. Sakura Gelly Rolls are more /fa/, but Zebra is swag enough for my hometown.

Platinum preppy transparent body w/black ink, Pilot Petit 1 Blue body w/blue ink. I'm an industrial designer so those are a joy to sketch with. People mire them whenever they see me doing a quick sketch or signing invoices/papers. Plastic bodies means I wont stain them (I like to get very personal with production, so often my hands have grease, oils or solvents), scratches don't matter and if lost/stolen/broken they are cheap enough that I'd just buy a replacement. Gonna get an italic nib for annotations, green ink prolly.

get one of these anon, I have one and their sick

I have this set of pen/mechanical pencil. don't use it terribly often because I'm nervous about being a LARPer. not quite $1k but still more than I ever thought I'd spend on writing utensils

>>15431176
unfortunately the pens don't help me with attaching images
pic related

>>15430264
Ally pens in high school were Parker jotters. I used them because

1: they were unique so Hector and his bad hombres couldn't steal them like they stole my G2s right off my desk

2: my dad used to get them as awards for engineering certs or feats from Sony. And never used them so had piles of them. All labeled with shit like CES presenter 2003 or someshit. I didn't play video games much so I didn't know what any of it meant.

3: they didn't melt if I accidentally left them on the table metal shop

Rotring Rapidograph
>t. Architecture student

>>15431178
id on these? are these fake?

>>15430188
>290 for a ballpoint pen
Kek.
I do have a Mont Blanc pen I was gifted in my childhood and it is pretty good. Maybe it wasn’t very sensible bringing it to my middle school classes, but it has survived just fine.

>>15430188

>Spending hundreds on a pen
>And it's a fucking BALLPOINT

At least get a damn fountain pen you scrub. And if you don't get a fountain pen, then get a damn BIC classic, $3 for 20 pens.

>>15431518
good ballpoint pens aren't a meme. it's like quartz vs. mechanical watches.

>>15431528

Most are, however. Especially when you're dropping hundreds -- those ballpoints are a meme, yes.

I have a "nice" ballpoint pen. It's from "right in the rain" and it's my field pen that I use as a tool to accomplish tasks. It has a pressurized cartridge that can write upside down, under water, in zero gravity, and in pretty much any shitty environment you can think of. I love it. My field journals are also by the same company because the paper can also be used in any condition, you can drop it in the mud and wash the paper clean -- and it feels like regular paper.

A vintage mont blanc fountain pen with purple ink to LARP as Enzo Ferrari

>>15430446
>I would only spend an inordinate amount of money (ie a Mont Blanc) if you are running an ultra luxury white glove type of business (ie: Ivy League law firm).
cringe
t. ivy league lawyer

>>15430188
Being a server doesn’t justify you buying a 1k pen, OP

Cartier Must

>>15430188
Jesus Christ, 1k is overkill for a decent pen. I'd say 100-250 should be more than enough for a decent pen

>>15430188
parker jotter is the absolute limit you psychopath

>>15430446

>G2
muji pens are >>>>> pilot
also cheaper

wtf is this. You are all talking about spending over 100 on a fucking pen?

What is it about pens that make them so anatomically discriminate?
I could hold a xy priced masterpiece, but if it doesnt sit well in my hand, I would just do jagged scribbles of a 7y/o.
The balance point, the tip, the ergonomy and thickness of the grip, all of those, finding a perfect match?
Ive had pens that would shine in the right hands, but I just did cat scratches.

And what the fuck is up with regular single use pens nowadays going for €2+

Unrelated, but can you re-learn how to write nicely after 30y/o+? My shit is all over the place and makes me somewhat feel embarrassed. I cant hold lines, and all of my letters are different. I even have hundreds of variations of my signature.

>memories of basic school of that terrible fucking feel when your point was scratching the paper

>>15431752

like $20. glorious Nippon autism answers a question i didn't realise I was asking.

>>15431781
Try hand stretches.

>>15430354
Having a quality pen in a Japanese-run business does not matter. Having a decent hanko (signature stamp) speaks VOLUMES.
Source: I've worked for 5 Japanese companies

>>15431781
Do you use the standard tripod grip? If not, switch to that and practice just writing the alphabet. Maybe get a pen that forces that hand position like a Lamy Safari.

Either way it can probably be done, you'll just have to start by writing slower.

>>15431781
>can you re-learn how to write nicely after 30y/o+?
Yes
>slow down
>concentrate on what you're writing one letter at a time
>don't bother practicing penmanship when you need to write quickly, e.g. taking notes during a meeting, in class, putting fleeting thoughts to paper etc.
>take up Western calligraphy. 20 minutes a day, various scripts and styles. If you don't know what to write flip open to a random verse in the Bible which everyone has and was used for this very purpose for thousands of years
>slow down
>do not be too hard on yourself for mistakes, rushed letters, sloppiness, poor form. Relearning to write takes time and effort and will not happen overnight. Make it enjoyable.
>write things you enjoy writing. Words, phrases, sentences, paragraphs, idioms, fables, words of wisdom. A daily journal is great for good writing habits
>when you practice do so with a clear head and focus on the task at hand
>the key is repetition and steady, intentional writing and practice. Over time you will naturally begin to write neater without thinking about it as much. There will be slip ups and relapses but that is all part of relearning
>slow down
I find the number one culprit in my own poor handwriting is rushing and speed. Relaxing, slowing and maintaining a steady pace and rhythm works wonders. After a while you start to do it unconsciously.
As an aside Pilot Parallel Pens are great for calligraphy. Fairly cheap and common as well. Wouldn't use them on a daily basis for everyday writing but for old scripts and a substitute for fountain pens they work well.

>>15431528
Watches are a meme though. They serve no purpose other then letting people know you are bad with money.

>>15431781
For me its single use.

>muh buy Hiroshima pens!
>muh pros use le pen
>muh buying dildo pens

bump

>>15430188
>spending 1k on something you're very likely to lose or have a client accidently or purposefully pocket

>>15434731
I've never lost a pen in my life.

>>15434744
You also don't go outside or do anything.

You've had that cutting mat for 10 years and there isn't a single sign of use

The one I took a pic of now has about 200+ holes from a leather product I just made

>>15431556
Post vault rank

>>15434744
bro your eraser litearlly has not changed from like 2 months ago when u posted a similar pic flexing ur VC
please buy things you actually use instead of wasting it on things to ""impress"" strangers on the internet
i think your post is one of the most cringe ive seen in a long time cause you buy nice things for the purpose of impressing others instead of buying them for yourself

I normally ignore retards, but...

>>15434754
I use my cutting mats every day. I have several. There's a table behind me that's literally just a large cutting mat. I used the exact mat in the photo your referencing to cut all the pieces to make a paper version of Notre Dame. I'm sorry you buy cheap mats that do self-heal, but mine do.

>>15435756
The erasers are replaceable. On the topic of "cringe", I think one of the most "cringe" things I've seen is how I live rent-free in /fa/'s heads regarding how I spend my discretionary income.

I think you're projecting the notion that I'm trying to "impress" people because you assume the only reason to buy luxury goods is to show off. In other words, you only think I'm trying to "flex" on you because you're already aware of your own inferiority to me. True nobility isn't being better than other people, it's being better than your former self. Stop worrying about me, it distracts from you.

>>15434744
youve had sex with fewer than 10 non pro women in your life

Steal these from Walmart. They want you to, that's why it's so easy.

>>15430304
best option for me desu they just go missing as soon as someone see's that you have one