/fa/ - Fashion

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bitches are pathetic

right is a drain gang loving discord faggot

Who said I have no problem with it? Skirts are mad underrated. I don't care if you put pants/leggings or whatever on under them, just skirts/dresses in general need to be made mainstream again.

both are a problem.

>>15388868
It doesn't bug me, I think it would be cute
>>15388973 this, it would be nice for dudes too but everyone is either a coward or thinks "damn that's gay"

Men look fine in robes and skirts, as history attests. They do not look fine in womenswear designed for soft bodies and unbearded faces, for reasons so apparent they do not need to be explained. Kill yourself.

>>15388981
>be nice for dudes
I'm cool with kilts, but straight up skirts are literally retarded

>>15388998
They look good on guys though

>>15388868
because they both have shit sense of style

vans with white socks and a glitter dress? holy shit someone teach these "women" how to dress.

that woman also looks basic as fuck.
why are these fits even posted on /fa/?

>>15388868
this picture should've been a butch lesbian outfit not a feminine girl that just isn't wearing a dress, trash picture

>>15388868
tr*nnies ruined skirts for men

>>15389054
perfect example of an egg.

take your pills honey.

>>15388868
masculinity is the ideal form.
nobody wants a "feminine man"
woe to the male who seeks to be useless, passive, and pathetic like the female.

>>15389069
Why do men even like and have sex with women? Imagine letting a passive woman bear and raise your children instead of an educated man in peak physical form. Women are biologically physically weaker than men so they can't even hold you as tightly in their arms while you stare deeply into their eyes as you pound them raw, nor can their thighs hold your head in a leglock as strongly as a man could while you go down on them. Even men's gluteus muscles naturally have a higher and tighter arch than a woman's. A true man will toss his newborn 6 feet into the air to make it laugh while the passive woman freaks out and worries constantly about the baby's safety, wheeling the baby around in a pram like a portable prison cell while the true man carries their baby around on his shoulders and does not mind when the child shits itself all over his back or vomits on his head. A man who retches at a baby's natural body functions is no man. Absolutely disgusting.

>>15388868
its foolish, and cringe and gay. if i saw you wearing a dress near me as a grown ass man i would knock you the fuck out.

>>15388868
Unironically misogyny. On some level most men see masculinity as inherently better, so a man in a dress is lowering himself and showing his inferiority. By contrast men don't take women seriously to begin with, so wearing men's clothes is a purely superficial, non-threatening deviation

Prodigy loves men in skirts so she can diddle them easier

There's no such thing as men's clothes. There's unisex clothes and there's women's clothes.

>>15388868
they are both unacceptable tbqh.

>>15388868
left is not gay.
right is hella gay.

pls don't be gay.
sorry, gays.

>>15389210
>There's no such thing as men's clothes.

that's not true but hoodie and pants work for girls fine.

>>15388868
Dressed suck. They're not practical unless you live in some extreme hot climate (where many men might wear something similar to a dress, pic rel). It makes sense for women to want to wear pants. It doesn't make sense for men to wear dresses.

>>15388985
Someone explain this retarded incel syntax of needing to talk about woman in such a trashy manner like "soft bodies". Just be normal for once in your life.

>>15388868
faggot

>>15388868
Because women had a whole fucking movement like sixty years ago to show that girls could wear men's clothes. It was just as shocking back then as a man wearing women's clothes is now.

>>15388868
It wouldn't be a problem if they were able to pull it off.
Which they aren't.
Most dresses and skirts available today are made to fit a female body and will look ridiculous on a male body.
It's not as if there hadn't been an abundance of male "skirts" and robes through history either, it's just that you can't expect to put on a dress that's meant to fit a hourglass shape and look good in it when you are built like a rectangle.

>>15388980
based

>>15389210
Pretty much this
>b-but muh peer pressure and male gaze forces the poor wamen into muh unrealistic goals and rigid gender roles!!1!1!
The true effaypill is to realize that women have no strict norm at all and can get away with anything while men are much more harshly judged on their looks with just a handful being generally acceptable.

>>15389864
coward

>>15389100
ok 12 year old

>>15389100
imagine being so insecure

>>15388868
imagine if the way you dress determine who you are. what a fucking faggots

>>15388868
I mean for the picture atleast the dress is just ugly

Maybe if it wasn't a tacky princess dress

>>15389872
I wouldn't use that jargon but I think he's implying that the curvature and general shape of female figure and the garments designed for that form do not layer and print well over the sharp angles of the male figure, whereas throwing a canvas over an hour glass just shows a loose silhouette. Men in skirts and robe type looks would do better to be designed with the male physique in mind.

>>15389872

Someone please explain this retarded faggot syntax of needing to beg and please women in such a cucked manner? Just stop being just a onions goy;.

>>15390125
>Men in skirts and robe type looks would do better to be designed with the male physique in mind.

this

>>15388868

That doesnt offend anyone, the word is disgust

>>15388868
A man who desses like a woman is always pathetic and ridiculous.

>>15389099
>Why do men even like and have sex with women?
Besides assessing for functionality, there are no real reasons why besides the fact that it has proliferated our species. It works so far, let's see how it stands against S O C I E T Y

>>15388870
>not liking transpeople because reddit told you not to like them

>>15390215
>reddit
go back faggot. take your cringy pepes with you.

>>15389099
> "Why do men even like and have sex with women? Imagine letting a passive woman bear and raise your children instead of an educated man in peak physical form. Women are biologically physically weaker than men so they can't even hold you as tightly in their arms while you stare deeply into their eyes as you pound them raw, nor can their thighs hold your head in a leglock as strongly as a man could while you go down on them. Even men's gluteus muscles naturally have a higher and tighter arch than a woman's. A true man will toss his newborn 6 feet into the air to make it laugh while the passive woman freaks out and worries constantly about the baby's safety, wheeling the baby around in a pram like a portable prison cell while the true man carries their baby around on his shoulders and does not mind when the child shits itself all over his back or vomits on his head. A man who retches at a baby's natural body functions is no man. Absolutely disgusting."

>>15390215
faggot

>>15388868
>Men in dresses: problem
u wot m8?

>>15390230
https://voca.ro/9kvGLsmrZLJ

>>15388868
Gotta wear the one that fits the male form.

>>15388868
dafuck does one thing have to do with the other?

>>15390073
imagine being a genetic dead-end and thus failing at life

women section has some good shirt patterns

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>>15390040
based, women with shitty bodies shouldnt wear dresses

>>15390215
this

>>15389100
jesus christ chill out man

>>15388981
Seems to only really fit a female figure tho. The thing with male streetwear is that it's loose already.

>>15388868

>>15388868
I have no problem with men in dresses? Anyone is free to wear whatever they want to.

women wear male clothes because they're practical.
men wear female clothes because they're sissy hypno-addicted perverts

>>15388980
This.

>>15388981
>coward
I feel called out.

>>15389199
If female, I bet you are the kind to tell men "you can not understand women because you aren't one!" like a hypocritical little bitch.
If male, I hope she sees this bro.
I've experienced the same amount of pushback towards this idea from women, if not more. let me guess, "muh internalised soggy knees"?

>>15391030
The fuck are you talking about you complete mongoloid, he's right. Why do you think lesbianism has always been treated much better than male homosexuality? Same thing.

>>15389868
What are some men only clothes then? What is it that is socially acceptable for a man to wear but not a woman?

>>15391131
Blue collar shirts and factory overalls :^)

>>15391136
You're funny.

>>15391030
>let me guess, "muh internalised soggy knees"?
Yeah it actually is

>>15391131
going shirtless

>>15391238
based women btfo

>>15391238
>what clothes are not acceptable for women to wear
>answer is literally no clothes

>>15391238
read: none
Point proven.

>>15388868
Trousers and hoodies for women are still designed to fit women though. There are types of skirt and robe/"dress" designed for men, but a man who just buys and wears womens' clothes will look like shit.

>>15388868
it just doesn't work

nice trips tho fag

>>15388868
AGP macho ma'am tranny savages who try to coerce girls less than half their age into talking about hypno sissy porn.

>>15391343
>nice trips
How to spot the newfag. That's not how a GET works.
check it >>15391392

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>>15388868
Because girls are cute, and what nature gave them by birth can be expressed effortlessy by just existing. No matter how a girl looks, she'll always be a girl, and we'll always most likely enjoy looking at her.

A man that doesn't act like a man is a faggot and a parasite. Masculinity isn't something you're born with, but something nature has forced you to develop or else you succumb and lose the game of life. And such is beautiful, for our struggle is natural and should be welcoming, a notion that comforts us in trying times.

Men and women are not equal, and that's ok, and you and whoever did that image should kill themselves.

>>15388868

Because men are just obsessed about appearance and conforming to the social standard, especially when stupid ideas like the need to appear manly to all your bros get in the mix

>>15389100

The fact that you would assault them as opposed to just shrugging your shoulders and saying 'well, he has chosen to fuck himself over by making that choice' and going on with your life, totally unaffected by something which has no impact on your life.

Why are you not capable of that?

>>15391399
Holy fugggg an ebic get on a dead slow board!!!

>>15388868
>left
normal person I could talk to and hold a conversation.
>right
lispy annoying attention seeking faggot.

>>15388868
>why
Because the left isn’t men’s clothing. It’s unisex clothing with darker colors that are standard for men. The dress could be black, green, or rainbow and it would still be women’s clothing. The analogy would make sense if left were wearing a suit and tie.

Stupid out of touch artist
And op

I don't care what other people wear

too self-absorbed

>>15392216
>The analogy would make sense if left were wearing a suit and tie
No it wouldn't, there are women's suits and ties.

>>15391131
That's because people like you have supported the dissolution of gender roles. It all stems from there.

There is no culturally accepted movement to masculinize men. That alone should ring alarm bells in your mind.

Imagine allowing your girl to wear denim bottoms like a gold-miner from 1850.

>>15392332
There are men’s skirts too. Theyre called kilts. The exception proves the rule dumbass

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Based

>>15388981
I live in Seattle, we have a utilikilt store and I see lots of guys wearing them. They all look like retarded faggot morons. I like tranny monsters in dresses and shit better than a bio man in a kilt. Kys if you support that shit. Trannies are usually okay people too. Utilikilt wearers are always cunts.

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>Twitter SJW NPC response
go back

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Literally watchinn this on tv right now wtf

>>15393414
jokes on you I'm already a woman

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jokes on you I'm already dilating

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proof of the reddit invasion

If you have balls ya want to support em with more than just underwear. Also, because we always drip after taking a leak, if upskirted you d see we piss our pants

>>15388868
Are you scottish? Are you a roman centurion? Are you a greek philosopher? No? Don't wear a skirt.

>>15393252
make me

>>15388868
As long as the men in dresses arent doing it to get their rocks off and dont try to convince everyone they're now women then all the power to them.
Women fought to wear pants. Heck it was still illegal on the Senate floor in 1993

>>15389066
>any man that likes skirts is a tranny
Kys pervert

>>15389199
Shhhhh you're not supposed say the truth here

>>15390215
I dont like them because they are the equivalent of flat earthers. Reddit loves the T

Simple

Skirts n shit are female specific while Jean's/tees are unisex

Also people are super accepting of cross dressing so it not real a problem for most.

>>15394183
tranny calling someone a pervert

>>15394195
>people are super accepting of cross dressing
Maybe if you live in an american campus town or Stockholm, but not in any other place, no.

>>15394194
>Reddit loves the T
Agreed. I never understand why faggots post that bs here. 4chan is far less accepting of trans people than any other platform, certainly reddit.

>>15394195
>people are super accepting of cross dressing so it not real a problem for most.
bitch where? I live in a mayor city in Canada and shit isn't even like that here.

>>15388868
Because men good women bad

>tfw added photos of me in my skirts to tinder and have had more women matches/conversations/sex than ever before
and you idiots call us faggots lol

inb4 i just get called a faggot but for any boy/nb/whoever reading this that is interested in wearing skirts. if you're attractive it works really well. if you're not then i think it might be a bit harder but gl

>>15394776
>nb
nobody?

>>15388868
i honestly dont give a fuck. itd be cool as shit to have a friend who dressed up like that. obviously not an old man, itd look just as weird if an old woman wore sweats and a hoodie. but a young good looking dude? idgaf if you wear skirts go for it respect the confidence

>>15394776
>if you're attractive
I think you mean "if youre a twink"

>>15393465
>woman

>>15394776
>tfw you post bullshit on 4chan without posting proof

inb4 your cowardice shows

>>15390170
This. Before globalized fashion, native cultures all had some kind of “skirt” for men. It can be manly.

>>15395002
these kinds of posts reek of insecurity lol
>>15395049
I really think men need to stop approaching everything as manly vs not manly and de-gender clothing because it's clearly not doing them any favors lol

Men just don’t look good in skirts. It’s not offensive, they just don’t have the legs for it

>>15395058
Sounds like a noble utopic fantasy.

But at the end of the day, sexual preference exists and so masculinity will be fashionable.

>>15395058
>de-gender clothing
How about you just let men dress the way they want to? I'm a man but would dress no different if I was a woman. I don't see the practicality of wearing a dress or skirt and don't even like loose or flowy pants to begin with. In your opinion, what would de-gendered clothing look like? Because men dressing the way as pictured in OPs pic is certainly feminine and not gender neutral. If anything men are currently dressing more gender neutral than women.

>>15395133
but that is literally my point, why is the op image gendered other than you've been told it is? I'm sure there are a lot of men who would feel emasculated but would want to wear those kinds of things, so they never do. just seems silly is all, I'm trying to advocate for men wearing whatever they want but you're taking it personally for some reason. congrats on wearing what you want lol, literally no one cares and it has zero bearing on that conversation.

>>15395150
Pushing for men to wear more feminine clothing doesnt make it any more gender neutral. A man wearing feminine clothing doesn't make the clothing gender neutral.

>>15388868
Because it’s gaaaaaaaaaaaay

>>15395058
>ending every statement responding to someone you disagree with with "lol"
Speaking of reeking of insecurity.

>>15395133
>practicality
a skirt is much better in battle and work than pants

>>15395249
As if I'm going into battle every day. If a skirt was really that much better in battle every military would have adopted it already. Most militaries only wore them at a time when no pants EXISTED.

>>15395288
German tribals have been wearing pants since forever. Greco-Romans were just really anti-pants for some reason, they considered wearing pants something for barbarians only.

>>15393903
>pissing himself
>we
Talk for yourself only.
There's toilet paper. And with urinals, shake properly, you disgusting swine.

>>15395800
>for some reason.
Greeks and Romans lived in Greece/Italy. Germanic tribes lives in central Europe and north of that.
>>15395133
>practicality
There is no practicality to wearing dresses. Friendly reminder that women voluntarily wear modern high heels and fake nails. Non practical clothing shows that you don't do manual labour, implying that your husband makes money and you don't need to work, so unpractical shit became status symbols for women, then the career woman archetype was idealised and pants became normal, but some of the old stuff just sticks around.
Wanting to wear something for aesthetic reasons or sue to comfort (highly subjective) is legitimate in a world were many, many people work at desks or behind counters and even those that don't often have free time.
>>15395150
>why are dresses gendered
You're right that pants aren't seen as gendered anymore because of their normalisation, and that this is very much a social thing. But it's not completely unfounded either. There is an undeniably masculine thing about >>15395133's clothing choices, and that's the concern for pure practicality and disregard for looks beyond, I assume, not looking like a forest goblin.
And yes, sure, many women will also prefer practicality, that doesn't mean that it's not a somewhat masculine trait, women can do masculine things, especially now that it's socially acceptable for them to.

>>15395955
The Roman empire at it's height was much more than just Italy, it included the current day territories of France, the iberian Peninsula and part of the British isles. There was also plenty of contact between them, sometimes it was hostile and sometimes Romans would hire them as mercenaries.

>>15395963
I'm aware. But these clothing trends still developed under different climate conditions. By the time the romans expanded northwards, these had obviously become part of their culture, I'm not denying that.

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>>15395955
They were in a warmer climate. Probably kept their testicles in good working order not to have pants on.

>>15388980
Based

Because most men aren't faggots like you

>>15395955
>Non practical clothing shows that you don't do manual labour, implying that your husband makes money and you don't need to work, so unpractical shit became status symbols for women, then the career woman archetype was idealised and pants became normal, but some of the old stuff just sticks around.
Imagine writing all this because I stated a personal preference about not wanting to wear impractical clothing. Reevaluate your life.

>>15390215
>blamming reddit even tough reddit is the incarnation of reddit after /b/ and /soc/

Because Men's clothes are designed to be practical while women's dresses are designed to accentuate feminine characteristics. When a women wears men's street wear, it gives them added practicality while looking cute on them, because of their smaller frames in oversized clothing. Men on the other hand look horrible in dresses, as it's far less practical and doesn't fit their frames at all, they are too big for them and they have no feminine traits to accentuate. Men simply look like large trolls in dresses designed to fit a woman's body.

You're also ousting yourself as a useless male by wearing dresses. Women are designed by nature to be looked at and worshiped for their beauty while men are designed to perform duties for the benefit of the group. A man that wear's dresses is a degenerate, he wishes to be feminine but nature didn't design him that way. Therefore, like >>15389100, the group rejects his identity, as they are disgusted by his uselessness. Unlike the liberal's gospel that "everyone is in control their identity" the harsh reality is your identity is decided by the group.

>>15396208
he didnt really write more than you
he was just explaining something to you. why are you upset?

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20 words 133 characters
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215 words 1,316 characters
both not including quotes or (You)s

>>15396406
>your identity is decided by the group
Pretty much agreed. Location, profession, hobbies, all play a role as well. Being authentic is the best you can do.

>>15396446
He only wrote the part you quoted for you, though.
Still, why are you upset? Are you embarrassed you were corrected?

>>15396461
Corrected on my OPINION? Once again, I stated a PERSONAL PREFERENCE.

20 words 133 characters
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>>15388868
>girl in street clothes
Actually looks good because the cut works with the body type.
>guy in a dress
Looks terrible because the cut and design is completely wrong for the body type. On a twink enough guy, it's totally fine.

It's like using a chainsaw to open a paint can.

>>15388868

Men look like shit in dresses. There are no dresses that would suit someone masculine (which is a bit of a missed opportunity). And those men who try to look feminine are either fugly or will loose the battle with nature once they are 25+

>>15395049
Big asshole energy

>>15397007
I want to put my tongue in his big asshole ;-;

>>15388868
we have kids in drag now thanks to trump and his pro-pedo perverts. traps weren't a thing until the alt right.

the fact is, the alt-right whites are devolving into trans, gays and effeminate "males" at record rates.

this isn't natural.

>>15388868
This pic is old af but I tried to make dresses work as a guy a few years back when I was in fashion school and surrounded by people who were into that kinda stuff. in hindsight it looks pretty bad But am curious what others think

>>15397072
I wish I could stuff like that and not have people stare at me. Fuck this gay earth.

Not even women wear dresses. Trannies please just wear normal female clothes, thank you

>>15397072

it's actually not too bad but i don't like the knee socks

>>15397090
My (cis) gf wears dresses all the time and it’s very cute And pretty but, continue to seethe anon

>>15397072
it mean it looks fine but I would've thought you were a tranny

>>15397072
i think you shouldve put a nice belt on, it kinda just looks like a long tshirt, but you def shouldve gone without knee high socks

>>15388868
Jokes on you, I love when my girlfriend where's boy's clothes and I love when my boyfriend wheres girl's clothes.

Than I have her choke and slap him while he jerks himself off and I fuck her from behind and finish on both of them.

>>15397114
Hot, want another girlfriend (male)?

>>15396406
Somewhat unrelated but big meaty men in dresses is great

>>15397042
proof?????

Actually it does offend me when people dress like that in public

>>15397042
One exception makes the rule? Try harder and maybe spend a little less time on /pol/ and twitter in order to get a more accurate world view.

>>15397072
Not bad suprisingly. You have the build for it. I will say that this looks feminine and not unisex imo, maybe that's why it's easier to accept?

>>15397193
I dunno, I thought it has a higher “acceptability factor” because the dress itself isn’t really girly or anything? Like it’s a basic shape, no trims, no fancy fabric or print. Like if they made dresses for men that is what I would imagine.