/fa/ - Fashion

>>15274273
This is a Seal shirt thread kill yourself

>>15274273
What was peak fashion?

What do you wear and what is your skin care routine?

Do you do anal?

>>15274273
cringe larper

>>15274283
Fashion used to be fun and now all of you are retarded cum brains

>>15274290
Why isn't it fun now? What do you wear?

Do you suck titties?

>>15274295
Yeah I suck mad titties

Unlike you

I also only wear trilogy tapes merchandise

>>15274273
People naturally become better posters when they read my posts, so many misconceptions are dispelled that the neural network of the brain actually rearranges itself in a manner that makes the reader more adept at discussing fashion.

All I want is to raise the level of dialogue across the internet... I don't want to live in a future where people discuss fashion in 140 characters or less...

>>15274297
>trilogy tapes
>seal shirts
lmao

Are you under 20?

Also, do you eat ass or nah?

>>15274299
>neural network of the brain

Jesus my sides

what a gay thread
nobody likes you or values what you have to say OP

>>15274314
Come on OP, drop that knowledge

>>15274314
shut up fag

fa died when we started having threads for coomers

>>15274314
Kill yourself

>>15274273
did your line fail?

>>15274287

i’ve probably forgotten more about fashion than you’ll ever know. if you think the current state of things could be described as anything but the worst it’s been in 10 years you’re probably brain dead. also almost everything decent that does exist right now is probably about to go extinct. we’re in for a long decade of extreme decline. in retrospect it’ll likely be looked at as a lost decade for fashion. the 2010’s was the stumble before the fall. the 2020’s will just be completely marred by geopolitics and fashion will become completely irrelevant. the world is about to go to war with china. the customer that funded fashion for the past decade is about to disappear. independent stores and brands will close across the board. if you thought shit was boring now it’s about to get 10 times worse.

i challenge everyone in this thread who thinks otherwise to provide me with proof that fashion is in a great place and it only goes up from here. people have become obsessed with archival wear and the past because the present has become so impossibly awful. that’s a sure sign of a collapse, when everyone starts thinking exclusively about the good old days. the greatest eras in fashion was when there was an obsession with futurism and looking forward. 80’s / 90’s / 00’s all had this. 10’s was the beginning of a rejection of optimism and a full embrace of extreme cynicism.

>>15274322
died way before that

>>15274334
fast fashion is about to die
that alone makes it great

brands like gucci currently pander to chinks
that'sabout to go away

made in america is about to hit

so this will be the age of the american designer once again

>>15274273
>he fell for the fashion meme
You’ve been here since 2007 and still haven’t realized fashion will forever be an industry and it always was one?
Style=/=fashion

>>15274273
There will never be as much tripfag drama as early /fa/. It's actually crazy to think there are people on 4chan who never experienced it pre-/soc/ the attention whoring was simultaneously infuriating and yet so incredibly satisfying and hilarious when people would band together to attack someone. It was like we all mutually bonded over hating the people who had to make a thread about themselves every day. Also what about the Miranda Priestly reveal? Nothing like that will probably ever happen again. The IRC channel was dope as hell too and I actually still keep in touch with 5~ or so people from there. I dunno it felt more like a community back then even if the level of discussion was much weaker.

I dunno I'm probably extremely biased because it was when I was first getting into not just clothes but music, film, art, etc. I actually almost trashed my apartment the other day because I majorly fucked up a sample I was sewing and putting on some music from /fa/ circa 2008 actually calmed me down enough to get my shit together. So it really is a period I look back on with fondness for all it's faults. I even kind of miss the people I hated.

Oh well, life goes on.

Poo jug jerry

>>15274345
lol no

>>15274349
pea brainlet

>>15274360
cringe

>>15274345

get the fuck out of my thread sieg. every one of your takes is wrong. just like everything you’ve ever posted on this board has been wrong. you might be one of the most retarded people on this entire website. you have never grown, never matured, never actually acquired any real knowledge or wisdom or experience. you are the guy that scans a wikipedia article and then regurgitates it back to people on here while somehow managing to misremember everything of the small amount you barely read.

i’m sure you’ve been able to scrap by after every other tripfag left. with no one to push back i’m sure you were allowed to be retarded in peace amongst the zoomers. well i’m here now so shut the fuck up. you were a dipshit the first time i argued with you about guidi boots on here 11 years ago and you’re still a dipshit now. fuck off. get the fuck off the fashion board. you don’t know anything about fashion. you’ve never known anything about fashion.

you are the definitive village idiot of /fa/. you are the disgusting rotting wallpaper of the board that everyone tries to ignore. feel free to stop any time faggot.

fhaghots

>>15274380
guidi boots looked like shit then and look like shit now

>>15274380
kek

>>15274360

Yes it was based. What was your username? I was in the IRC chat as SFD. We probably have a bunch of mutuals. Cool to know other people went into clothes. Almost everyone I know dropped out. Pretty much all creative / design adjacent fields are going to fair better in the future. Boomers are about to smash everything on the way out as they become more senile than ever. Worst time to try and start something in fashion.

>>15274273
>>15274280

just an fyi, both of these trips claim to have been here for over 11 years

i have never once seen them, it's a lie.
if i'm wrong these they have had so little impact on board culture that nobody noticed their presence or absence

jesus christ, sieg absolutely annihilated

also, is this the real anorak? do you have a plan to save /fa/?
i never got into fashion, but i always stuck around this board because i enjoyed reading posts from folks who were setting trends, living in the intersection of art and industry, and could sense where the currents of culture were heading. You say fashion is headed toward into a very bleak decade. do you think it will be the same across the board for popular culture and media?

>>15274273
“touched by the and of god” lmao

>>15274434
i like how i triggered people i legit don't know but clearly remember me

>>15274464
>t. uncultured tastlet who doesn’t listen to new order

>>15274434

i’ve always wanted to save /fa/ but the problem is convincing other oldschool tripfags to do it with me. everyone i know is spread out across discord servers and private group chats now. any time i bring up trying to make /fa/ great again no one really cares. i still think it’s the best chance for actually good fashion discussion online. at this point i’m convinced 4chan will survive the apocalypse. it’s managed to last in a way that traditional forums and nowhere else has. truly anonymous online discussion has always been best. so /fa/ is just sitting here rotting and not being used. it sucks. there’a no reason for it to be like this and worst of all there’s no real alternative. i like taking amongst people i know but i also like talking with someone truly random that might have an entirely unique take ive never thought of.

i can’t really speak on trends outside fashion. i feel fashion is the only thing i’m really qualified to speak on in regards to what’s going to happen in the next decade. something a lot of people don’t understand is that zoomers are going to cocoon mode. they’re not going to save anyone. they’re going to go to school for 6-8 years and completely avoid all the bleak shit about to happen. boomers are also going to leave like rats from a sinking ship but only at the absolute last possible minute when they’ve squeezed as much as they can and they’ll steal everything that’s not nailed down on the way out. it’s going to be millennials left holding the bag with no customers, no stores, increasing global conflict, and basically everyone not wanting to give a fuck about clothing. it’s going to be an environment where you see very safe and very practical design. basically things have been getting blander and they’re going to get a lot more like that. this is going to be an insanely risk averse decade.

redditors and tourists not respecting board culture alongside the lack of gate-keeping ruined fa

>>15274481
/fa/ has been more about fashion that it has ever been, less pretentious, less drama, more about clothes.


you see how every thread is tangetially connected to clothing?

yeah...it's NEVER been like that. post trump /fa/ is best /fa/

lol i rembr this trip
u were always on high horse and whinged alot

who cares what flyover turds do and follow
just b urselfgo thrift eat peyote fashion is boring

>>15274472
why would anyone want to "save" this board? the few of us who actually look fucking cool only come here to shitpost. there is no value past that. are u here to curate a bunch of losers posting ugly h&m outfits haha how pretentious and whack, and thank god that avenue of internet fashion has almost died out bar reddit

>>15274494
Define “look cool” for the class

>>15274494
he's probably one of those fags that wants losers wearing rick owens like its 2009 again

the thing is the idiots who wore gothninja bullshit
looked like guys that read thse cringe ass "pick up artist" books and wondered why their loser fits didn't get bitches

>>15274483
>endless amounts of “is x fa” or “what core is this” threads that hardly have anything to do with fashion/clothes
>bald thread pandemic worse than the chinese virus
>what makes it soi/soi hate threads
very little quality fashion talk happens here anymore. thread quality has gone down.
there is less drama because there are less tripfags that give a shit. the only real drama here is cecil and igor fighting over the spot of king bald manlet.
the quality of generals has gone down as people just post whatever they want and shill what they own.

>>15274488
>>15274494
>>15274500

gay cringe pea brainlets get out of my thread. me and willy vanderperre won’t save you when you find yourselves in a vat of boiling excrement for your grievous sins against fostering luminous online fashion discussion.

>>15274514
in 2013, if you posted article X you wouldnt get a real opinion on it.

now you do, these zoomers turned the board into something else but they actually made it useful to them

our generation made it a cesspool

we mostly used it for porn, blah and spoony fapathons

>>15274519
the zoomers aren’t here. they’re mainly on instagram/tiktok now.

I'm like 90% sure your /fa/cistfaggot

I remember you wore a skirt dress thing in 2012 your opinion on fashion is trash

>>15274539
fascistfag was generally quite pleasant, anorak has always toxic and whiny


anyone knwo what void or levi are doing these days??

>>15274516
>fostering luminous online fashion discussion
lol choke on a condom, keep fashion on the streets and adjecent to counter culture

the netscape killed fashion and turned it into an abhorrent pile of generic shit accesible to every stale flyover state mongoloid

>>15274469
I do, there’s a mistake on these replicas though

>>15274539
>>15274551

there was a subculture of fags (literal) on here that were seperate than actual /fa/

trunks ran in that circle, so did fascis and some other cross dressers who are probably trannys now

>>15274380
>>15274334
cringe larper

>>15274472
i had 2000 characters typed out but accidentally backspaced out of the page and lost em so i'm just gonna say that my conditions for the 'salvation' of fa aren't nearly as lofty as yours. i mainly just want users to post good content and appreciate art, in aggregate. to make me happy, we don't even need to eliminate all the trash and bait. just, please allow some good stuff to exist alongside that. i feel this is definitely achievable. the way we've had more posts from old trips in the past 2 months than we did in the 4 preceding years makes me a little optimistic, even.

>>15274380
nice
>>15274500
Aren’t you fat?

I think fashion died when

A) Everyone was convinced that slapping on a prefab fit from a big box fashion outlet is, indeed, fashion

B) When everyone else's reaction to it was to say that cuffing your jeans/corduroy pants and tucking a tee shirt into them is, indeed, fashion

There's are the two dominant cultural forces in fashion right now. Sleezecore vs fast fashion and boy oh boy does it suck

Tech kids, street kids, 90s revivalists and anyone who can mix those aesthetics in with the two major strains of thought are valid. As well as the weirdos who just toss on outlandish shit like Rick Owens, I value them too

I’ve been here since ~2011, came here bc it was basically the unmoderated shitpost section of the SZ forums. Tripped for 5 years but gave it up in 2016 when I realized how fucking desperate for attention and continuity in other people’s minds you have to be to trip. It’s sad to see old trips still posting, almost all of us that haven’t left the board entirely have moved on to posting anon.

>>15274434
>>15274472

I wonder where popular culture will go. Rap will be on the decline, and what happens then when the cultural vanguard falls? Music is going to move towards TikTok Payola, and there are already songs designed just for it. For shame...

>>15274273

go back to onani gang bro

>>15274273
man those are some UGLY shirts, i dont care what brand they are

>>15274405
holy fuck sieg still posts here? first time i've been on here in 5 years and his is the first trip i see

>>15274334 i agree that fashion qua fashion right now is dogshit, that's why i dont buy designer anymore. but you dont seem to realize somehow that china being the main piggybank for designer is WHY fashion has been such dogshit. 20s will be the fall of designer, but that can only be seen as a good thing for fashion going forward considering where it has taken us so far.
>>15274345 damn i wish i had read this before i typed my whole thing. based.

>>15274985

dude they're Paul smith, retail around 300... pretty based imo

>>15274290
laserface was ugly lol

>>15275001
i wouldnt even care if you told me they were versace or whatever

mangled english like its some aliexpress special

>>15275013
You’re a retard harry

>>15275028
>i must suck fashion brands' cock i must consooooom

imagine paying $300 for a ugly shirt that looks retarded AF to 99% of normal people not into meme fashion trends lmao

>>15275006
this. He was always a ugly dick sucker. Seems he still is. Probably bald now too.

>>15274345
I don't know if made in America will become a thing. Can't really think of interesting American influences. Just look at how popular TikTok is

>>15274993
Supreme will fall down too along with designer. Let's see what happens

>>15274273
>AND OF GOD
chinks never change

>>15274345
I hate sieg and he’s fat but
THIS

The fact that Sieg has an army of a sycophants sucking his dick is pretty bad news for the board. If you’re any of the people that agreed with his takes I need to inform you that unfortunately you’re a pea brainlet and it’s most likely terminal.

Fast fashion is not going away. If you honestly have ever thought that you need to never share your opinion on clothes ever again. Why the FUCK are you in my thread? At this point the entire world revolves around cheap shit. None of the fast fashion megacorps are in danger of disappearing, although they will be forced to compete with Amazon in the future. This will actually result in an even more insane race to the bottom. We are going to experience the zenith of fast fashion. It will fully merge with algorithms, advanced mechanization, and insane logistical networks to become more omnipotent than ever before.

Designer brands like Gucci are also not even remotely close to going away. You realize Sieg and you dipshits picked the two areas that will survive no matter what right? Those were your picks for what disappears in the future? Pathetic. Gucci et al. survives through an insanely simple technique that they don’t currently employ because they prefer unlimited Chinese people money; but exists nonetheless for when they need it. They cut the supply. They literally make it harder to buy Gucci product and they radically increase the price. If you haven’t understood that scarcity is the vanguard mechanism by which luxury products proliferate:

You
Are
A
Dipshit

You don’t know anything. Your opinions are worthless. Your takes are for fellow pea brainlets to circle jerk over. Leave my thread. Me and Willy Vanderperre will push you into that vat of boiling excrement at this point.

Made in America by the way is never coming back. Go watch the documentary American Factory. Americans no longer have the culture necessary to work factory jobs. Factories that do come back will be almost entirely mechanized.

>>15274273
What happened to that tripfag Jalland? He's the only one I remember from when I was last here (I'm guessing pre-2010 but I don't remember)

>>15275013
These are straight counterfeit early raf Simon's.

The only reason people buy it is to take a fit pic with it for internet forum clout then they try to sell it ..

They're inherently a form of internet style victim

>>15275746
1: his internet girlfriend who he proclaimed to love was exposed for being a prostitute.


2: a video he made where he masturbates for homosexual men got leaked and posted here

This whole thread suffers from lack of fits. Talk shit post fit old fags

>>15274273
>posting OP pic of Raf parkas
Why do these people on /fa/ always talk like this shit was the holy grail/age of fashion? Yikes
>>15274280
Based Laser
>>15274914
Sieg was proven fattie

I only come here to talk about overpriced smelly water now, but this thread caught my attention

>>15275766

You just totally exposed yourself. Those are Chinese Alibaba fakes with a typo on them. I used that image specifically to illustrate the state of fashion. Some of us are operating here on an entirely different level of irony and wit. We also won’t dumb ourselves down so you can “get it”.

the board opened in 2008, at the same time as fit and R9K

>>15275788
>Hurr hurr these have a typo

> Such a witty post

You're such a fucking loser, outside of three faggots and 5 Korean kids on a forum nobody gives a fuck about these parkas from 20+ years ago... nobody even cares about raf today

Everything you know about fashion is a decade old in an industry that reinvents itself every few years

>>15274963
>Moved onto to posting anon

Because they're ashamed of their past.
And how cringe they were.

Or the few people that got doxxed like me are afraid of the empty death threats.

I still get phone calls but I'm the only person on this board who didn't back down from that shit because I have about a dozen firearms in hand in about 20 seconds

>>15275798
do any of the names ITT sound familiar?

whats with the influx of new tripfaggots claiming to have been here for years but are clearly very new?

>>15275809

Sieg I’m serious. Stop replying to my posts. Your brain is soft, smooth, and rotten. Everything you post somehow manages to be flat out patently false or just the absolute dumbest take imaginable from someone with the most narrow of perspectives. You’re the one who can’t keep up. You’re the one who’s knowledge is a decade old. I live and breathe this daily. You stayed on an online messageboard about it where you yourself admit in this very thread you never cared about the discussions. Instead choosing to wisely spend your time masturbating to photos of insecure women posted during a BPD breakdown.

If you want to talk about cultural relevancy there’s a Drake music video from not even 2 months ago with 110 million views that prominently features an archival Raf bomber jacket you stupid decrepit old fuck. You actually need to sit the fuck down with the “no ones cares” shit. You yourself don’t even know what anyone cares about because you’re so fucking old and dusty.

Not only are you an old retarded irrelevant geriatric but you’re literally too stupid to understand the genius allegory of my OP’s image. As i’ve said several times before: fuck off and get the fuck out of my thread about actual fashion discussion.

>>15275727
how is your brand doing anorak? also when you were in school did you espouse your views on fashion/ create clothes similar to your current brand? or did you toe the line as it were as to not ostracize yourself from your peers? In school now and finding it frustrating to balance what i think with what people are willing to tolerate/listen to without thinking im some kind of depressed lunatic

>>15275856
1: you pulled this off of some counterfeit sales listing it's not genius it's some chink trying to make $10 on a fake coat sold to internet loser fashion victims

2: nobody listens to drake, and nobody wants to emulate how he dresses. he's not only a nigger, he's a soft Canadian nigger that only beta softboi millenials listen to.

>>15275891
>fashion school

YIKES

what can you do with a bachelor of fine arts

> mop ze floors juden

>>15275891
let me give u free consulting as someone who has had a bit more experience in the industry
what is it that you want to do?

>>15274273
no u

>>15275894
are you autistic?


>>15275901
get into buying preferably, i realize i don't "need" to take the program i'm currently in but, the people i've talked to in my city in similar roles to buying spoke very highly of the program and it's been lucrative for me so far

>>15275909
ok so buying for a store? what kind of store what kind of brands carried? is that the end goal?

>>15275914
i wanted larger department stores rather than boutiques saks would be a good example for the market i wanted to work in. and no not the end goal necessarily but the first step in a career.

>>15275929
buying for department stores sounds pretty gay and the path up is probably pretty cucked if thats what u wanna do idk what i can tell u i guess i only have more experience in the independent spheres of the industry like independent boutiques and brands who are actually trying to do new different things
ive dealt with buyers from larger department stores and corporate retailers and so many of them are the biggest npcs u could ever imagine and have no idea wtf theyre doing
feel free to drop any quesitons im down to ramble

>>15275929
also what department stores buy is really cringe and gay you can tell department stores are confused as fuck these days and are having a hard time adapting to generational shifts in the consumer market i cant think of a single department store that actually has a good progressive buy and supports independent designers in a meaningful way that isnt just a cash grab or hopping onto the next flash in the pan

>>15275938
it seems extremely cucked but does seem more stable? if that makes sense, i'm not in a place where the independent stores are particularly daring in the first place

so i guess is it mostly a myth that department stores are more "stable" in terms of job security and what not or is that something i shouldn't be overly concerned with. i know some guys who have done really well as freelancers and basically built their own platforms but that seems so risky

>>15275947
ssense maybe? lol i know not a "department store" persay but yeah you're right

>>15275766
Is post a fit but I’m in my underwear

Do you cum here often

>>15275891

ones done for and another is getting re-tooled. i want to launch a third but not during the next 2 years. i’m trying to figure out where the world is going and what i can do now to future proof myself in 10 years. i believe that in the future we’re going to see what i would describe as micro factories. current clothing factories the world over are designed around economies of scale. it works for mega brands but it’s never really worked well for anyone else. everything is going to get way harder and these types of factories are going to become a breaking point. it’s already the case that independent brands struggle to meet factory minimums. the most successful indepdent brands in the future will actually mimic the megacorps of the past 30 years. total vertical intergration. stuff like laser cutting, 3D printing, and automated sewing will make it much easier to have a factory with 10 employees that can make almost everything in a line. that’s my long term goal.

regarding school, i never worried about ostracizing myself. i always spoke my mind and asked a million questions. i was into different things style wise on a very surface level 7 years ago but the core of me was the same.

it’s unfortunate but don’t worry about anyone else at school besides yourself. i don’t really keep up with anyone i went to school with. the teachers should actually be your best friends. you get a limited amount of time to pick their brains and learn everything you can from their experiences and successes but also their failures. literally ask them about stuff that didn’t work out for them or they wished they’d done differently. it can be seriously illuminating. most people who go to fashion school are pea brainlets, they’re not interested in big ideas. most people in general are like that. once you’re in the industry it’s a bit better. you don’t get to choose your classmates but you can choose what companies you work for and who you reach out to.

>>15275964

thank you, appreciate the advice
good luck with your brands

How do we remove the faggotry from fa?

>>15275953
Ya am WOLOWOLO

>>15275952
from my experience working within department store structures is mega cucked and you have to play this gay game of competing and climbing the ladder and playing politics and shit also its probably hard to get a job as a real buyer for a department store too so idk about stability, unless ur located in or near fashion week cities i dont think department stores would be flying out junior / assistant buyers or even have the need for that but this all really depends on the situation of the company and location you'd be working for

yeah ssense is decent i guess depending on the buyer you deal with as a young brand they can be very helpful and willing to develop a real relationship with you and help you develop and build your company but at the same time they just carry everything now and i think there could come a point where being available on ssense makes your brand seem more cringe

>>15275979
interesting point about the gay politics, i would probably kill myself having to deal with that

ssense might be a good stepping stone then?

Anyone know if slator still posts here?

>>15275952
also from my experience everyone who wanted to "get into buying" were very misinformed about the industry and knew very little to take them anywhere close to a real buying position so not to discourage you but for me its always felt like a red flag kind of like when your average npc goes to his local fashion school and says i wanna be a merchandiser or a """marketer""" like its very vague and they dont know what that area of work entails in the real world

i think thats a huge problem that becomes super evident once you actually gain some experience in the industry and see first hand how everything works and how all the gears turn, is that you think why the fuck is nobody teaching any of this in schools? like the industry is basically an entirely different world from schools and it sets up so many people for failure like maybe 5 years ago i used to see grads from top schools like csm and think they were the pinnacle of the ideal fashion design career trajectory but now i see that its actually the opposite, theyre mega cucked and doomed for failure without knowledge of logistics and business that makes the industry work

>>15275979
I think that point of ssense cringe is fast approaching if not already upon us

>>15275986
ssense is a huge corporation and i cant really think of anything more gay and cucked than wanting to work for THE status quo of mass fashion culture right now

idk maybe ive just been into this shit for alot longer and much more jaded / aware of reality but to me anything that isnt going against the status quo or trying to do something new feels really pointless to me

>>15276000
so what do you do and what kind of place do you work at? what kind of career path did you take?

>>15275986

I will tell you right now SSENSE is an awful company to work for. It’s legit the Amazon of designer fashion.

Anecdote 1) Friend who works in their graphic design department in Montreal. He goes and works in basically a cubicle. Can’t really talk to anyone outside his department. Doesn’t really get any of the cool perks of working at a fashion company like that. It’s just an office job for him like anything else. He wants to gtfo as soon as he can so he can go work for a smaller agency or company where there’s an actual fun culture of goofing off a bit and hanging out and enjoying work because you have to do it for 8 hours each day regardless.

Annecdote 2) Was visiting the Bless store in Berlin and started talking to the girl working there. She had worked as a buyer at SSENSE for 3 years prior. She quit because it was mind numbingly boring. She said there were like two brands where she actually got to enjoy the buying process and the rest was a complete slog. Worse yet said position which I assumed would qualify her to be a buyer basically anywhere else resulted in nothing. One of the only jobs she could get out of it afterwards was as an assistant in a Paris showroom I won’t name. Essentially she only worked during fashion week twice a year and had to pay her own flights from Montreal to Paris. She got the Bless job in Berlin to have something else to do in between. The store doubles as an apartment for the person working in it, but again she wasn’t really being paid it was more so resume fodder and because she really likes the brand and got a free place in Berlin.

I don’t know her own circumstances and if she sucks at networking or is bad at interviews or what but it didn’t seem like it. She seemed like a capable person that had unfortunately made the assumption an SSENSE job would lead to other opertunites. I don’t think it does. I think corporate jobs lead to more corporate jobs.

>>15276030
intresting, in line with what i heard from friends in mtl, that ssense rapes the creative class of montreal

really interesting that it didn't lead elsewhere

>>15274297
Nah you’re a pathetic beta fag I can tell by how you respond.

>>15276024
i went to school for fashion design at a shitty school for a year and dropped out and started my own project and just went my own way into the industry by way of meeting people and the opportunities that came with it which led to a stint at a young designer brand accompanying in all of its operations for 2 seasons in paris and the production and development for the season in between
right now im working for an independent retailer and saving to move so i can work for that brand again and gain alot of experience in production which is a huge skillset to have and eventually start making my own stuff

so i went my own way and made it out fine with a really good advantage for me to learn and do my own thing eventually but idk what to really tell people who are in your position i guess who dont have enough experience and developed opinions yet to ask any engaging questions

i think once u know how stuff works it becomes alot harder to communicate with people who dont know because youre just not even tuned into the same awareness of things

what was that old tripfag that used to post on here? Trunks? I miss that guy

>>15276024
also i find it hard to understand people wanting to get into something when they dont actually know what that thing is, like people who havent worked in a cafe before saying they want to open a cafe, like how would you know if opening a cafe is what you want to do if you don't actually know what opening a cafe is?

if that makes sense

so its confusing to me when people say i want to get into buying for a store when they dont actually know what that is, so i would suggest you go work for a good store first and learn everything you can there and develop perspective on who consumes what and why at what price for which reasons etc and gain a sense for what brands offer in consecutive seasons or what actually makes it into stores and what people like etc just everything which will actually give u an opinion that u need to be a buyer who (hopefully) can stay ahead of the curve and do a good job of navigating the flow and change of trends and design

>>15276039
>i think once u know how stuff works it becomes alot harder to communicate with people who dont know because youre just not even tuned into the same awareness of things

this is true, looks like i still have a lot to learn

>>15276050
>so i would suggest you go work for a good store first and learn everything you can there and develop perspective on who consumes what and why at what price for which reasons etc and gain a sense for what brands offer in consecutive seasons or what actually makes it into stores and what people like etc just everything which will actually give u an opinion that u need to be a buyer who (hopefully) can stay ahead of the curve and do a good job of navigating the flow and change of trends and design


great advice, thank you

>tfw never witnessed old fa

>>15276039
Why are you talking like a success bro?

You dropped out of fashion school.

Fashion school is for the kids not smart enough for a real college.

So like .. you're worth less than a community college graduate.

You don't work in the fashion industry...you work in the retail industry...the service industry.

And all that shit about you working for a startup label means you just worked with another street hustler trying to make a t-shirt brand and talked it up.

Just like janitorial maintenance engineers - operated a mop and bucked lead engineer of department

>>15276030
can confirm having dealt with ssense for our paris presentations the guy is chill but obviously doesnt really care about buying its just his job and he goes through the motions places an order and it feels so data driven like always asking for ssense exclusive colorways and fabrications and reorders etc which i guess are good short term for more cash but idk if there is any effort on his (their) part to develop an authentic relationship and actually help the young designer navigate the industry but this is just my experience with our ssense correspondent it may vary widely depending on buyer brand and department

>>15276055
yeah when you work for a store you see the trajectory of a brands offerings over multiple seasons and can gain a sense for where things are heading, what people want, what people dont want anymore, etc. so its hard for me to imagine someone who isnt a strong consumer themselves or has experience in such environments where they're forced to think bout and analyze consumer psychology and trends all the time to be able to be a buyer for a business

>>15275973
Cannot be done. simple as.

>>15276072
thats cool but i literally only care about fashion so if im at an advantageous position within my industry thats cool with me
i dont really care about what "real society" thinks

>>15276058
I'm not a newnewfag but I've spent a decent amount of time going through the archive for various threads, and there was seemingly a lot of dumbass trip drama. I'm sure attention whore trips loved it.

>>15276092
If you claim you work in the fashion industry on your resume, that's fraud and they can decide to let you go and claim that you liked on your resume to future employers.

You work in retail and have an interest in fashion, if you're being 100% upfront this is the only way to put it

>>15276108
holy shit sieg is the biggest fucking fag on this board

>>15276078

one of the only stores i know of that seriously goes to bat for the brands they carry is Darklands. had a friend who met with their buyer and was getting grilled on their current manufacturing and production schedules, asking extremely hard hitting questions no other buyer touches. but it’s because they want to intimately know the internals of a brand before they pick it up. they pointed out certain details that wouldn’t translate well to production and would probably have to be changed. not because they wanted an exclusive or thought they knew better than the designer. but because they actually wanted to alleviate oncoming headaches for the brand and make sure all the deliveries would arrive on time so they’d both succeed. there’s probably less than 10 stores in the world like that. it’s an extremely old school way of thinking but also can only develop from someone insanely shrewd that’s been in the business for literal decades. the Darklands dude has a legendary reputation as an asshole but from what i’ve heard when it comes to how he treats the brands he carries you couldn’t possibly have someone better in your corner who will give you legit and frank advice that you probably need to hear.

>>15276108
>You work in retail and have an interest in fashion
this is true and the interest and experience from this has led to opportunities working in the industry

>>15276122

Don’t even reply to Sieg, by having simply been to Paris during fashion week in any capacity you’ve accomplished more than him in a year than he has in his entire 10+ year career posting on this board. We are the spiritual aristocrats of /fa/. Having a jovial conversation about fashion on the upper deck of the ship that is this board. Sieg meanwhile is a disgusting decrepit barnacle attached to the hull of the ship. We can disembark, close the tab and go back to our dynamic and engaging lives full of intrigue and wonder. Sieg meanwhile will remain here forever getting raped by sea turtles and drenched in whale cum. Damned to be /fa/‘s collective punching bag, but also a stark warning to the neophytes of this board. This is what you’ll become if you dedicate your life to saving photos of girls with BPD on the internet.

>>15276166
I finished college. In 2010...you both dropped out.

So I guess I accomplished more than both of you combined a decade ago

>>15276186
what have you done since?

>>15276186

First of all:

>going to college

Now that’s embarrassing!

Second of all:

>Bragging about finishing

That might actually be even more cringe.

Third of all: It’s your only defence when told you know nothing about fashion and need to get the fuck off the fashion board.

>But I went to college bro AND I graduated

hahahahaha. I think from a pathological perspective it’s pretty telling that Sieg has a weird sadism against working class people in the service industry. Combine that with the fact that he constantly mentions that he went to college and graduated and Im certain he himself works a service job not related to his degree and it’s the ultimate cope.

Regardless none of this has anything to do with the fact that you know nothing about fashion, all your takes are wrong and retarded, and you contribute nothing to this board. I’m pretty sure your only supporters in here are sock puppets considering no one else has come to defend you. Fucking keel over and die already you decrepit old retarded fuck.

Just a reminder that /fa/ is a toxic shithole that never fails to make you feel like shit, like a fashion magazine would.

>>15276186

>going to an institution so some person can regurgitate things so others can regurgitate the same shit

Collegefags in 2020 everyone, you're an ugly spic sieg. Cherish that piece of paper because that's as far you go. You will remain here in limbo for the rest of your time

>>15276227
I like the idea that I posted my pieces enough times 10 years ago for some incel to seethe, work on his 2010 era fashion collection for a decade.

To come back and challenge me to fashion argument over outdated fits and I legit don't even remember him lol.


But honestly I don't think that's what's happening, as funny as that would be. I think this kid is a new fag zoomer trying to make a name for himself and is straight off of Reddit with like $300 in fakes trying to flex his counterfeits and fabricated a backstory

Fast fashion isn't going anywhere you fucking idiots. And it's your fault for never embracing thrift store culture

>>15274380
>tripfags are fighting

>>15274380
>you are the definitive village idiot of /fa/

>>15276547
No actually that would be Cecil

>>15276564
Cecil would be the village rapist

cecil is a female character

thought this would be a pigfuck thread

>>15276547
cecil and igor are pushing hard for that title

>>15275964
You got a way to contact you m8?
I’m interested in fashion automation(but not necessarily fast fashion)

>>15276888

drukqsdrukqs@gmail.com

>>15274472
What's your twitter btw? Been thinking of getting one again in case I get more bored during this quarantine. Thanks for coming back really appreciate seeing you.

>>15275727
It's just him posting without his trip
The few regulars are all known to samefag since they're schizos

>>15276166
Thank you for this. This has been a very, intensely interesting BTFO of this clown

>>15275823
lmao and I thought you couldn’t be any more embarrassing

Bump for anorak hopefully giving his twitter

>>15274290
Yo what up laserface how u been

Hey what about the popularizer of Lunarcore - Poet?

>>15278414
There was a mugshot of Poet with scratches all over his face. I bet the sneaky bastard scratched himself up while in the cell.

>>15278417
Willing to bet he is posting itt judging from the verbosity.

>>15274273
wearing a hanes white shirt and a good pair of black jeans, is all you need to look great if you got a decent build. Get a suit that fits your physique if you're going to a wedding or if your profession requires it.

Caring about clothes is the most stupid thing ever. I too was active on here for years until i realized how fucking retarded everyone that unironically cares about fashion is. Just find colors that fit your skin tone and have your own identity.

"effay" people like to think they're different from the "mainstream" when you all fall into the same void of not having your own identity and not knowing your inner self. what image do you want to sell to others. One that is sensitive and poetry reading or one that's unnatainable and cigarrete smoking. It's all the same in the end. Like spray painting a rock.

>>15274273
you all aren't different from the people that wear superhero/anime shirts

These look so incredibly shit.

They HAVE to be fakes.

I agree OP. I've been here since 08 and it's slowly become "H&M general"

>>15279625
t.midwit that can't work out how to express his true self through his clothing.

>>15274345
been a while since i've been to /fa but of course i run into tripfags who badly want to be intelligent
yikes

>>15274314
Kill self

>>15274360
So fucking gay. What a bunch of massive fuckkng faggots, too much of freaks for reddit you just HAD to come here and make your own reddit huh?

>>15274405
if someone starts a thread with the descriptor being "cringe and gay" you could be pretty sure they aren't an oldfag
meanwhile you I vaguely remember from back then

>>15274469
oh no not new order the most exclusive avantgarde band out there

>>15274481
>fa
and you should be the first to leave

okay I take it back, now that I've read every post this thread is great.
these nostalgia blast threads in the last few months have been better than anything on this board in years.

>>15278414
poet was cool when he was just anonymoulsy posting long paragraphs and niche images
then the dicksucking got to his head

>>15278414
faggot. total loser

/fa/

>>15280890
He had a gf and we are all losers here.

>>15275847
Sieg doesn’t look like a faggy thin model (the opposite really) but time and time again he makes accurate intelligent posts regarding Fashion mechanics and the industry

>>15275964
Gtfo my board idiot dilettante

>>15276039
>i went to school for fashion design at a shitty school
Sounds about right based on your low level posts
>>15276037
>for a year and dropped out
Typical failure at life trip idiot syndrome comes on fa to spread their idiotic useless anecdotes under a false sense of superiority

>>15281005
>>15281007
>>15281023
at least try not to make it so obvious

>>15274993
um what exactly replaces the designer? uniqlo?

>>15280904
shut up igor you complete and utter newfag retard

"No"

>>15278417
He got his ass kicked by an 90 lbs 5'2" woman.

Domestic violence

He used to talk tough too loo

>>15282383
How many personalities do you play here?

The problem with "art appreciation only" types is that if you don't have the exact same interpretation than them, then "you don't know shit"

And their interpretation of life is through the lens of unemployed or no skill required job, college dropout or never attended, white, 18-25, lower middle class, fly over state trying to escape to la or NY with illusions that a career in fashion is their way out.


A lot of the time, their opinions are usually lifted. From a consensus on a forum or subreddit they found and confirm to, in order to portray an image of a deep knowledge base.

So you get the same problem of why Reddit sucks, but instead of "upvoting" content you agree with. You ban anyone with a different perspective.

And as someone who grew up in southern California and still live here today.....your attitude of I'm better than the Midwest where I'm stuck... won't fly here ... You think you don't have a Midwest fly over mindset....but since you grew up there and escape online to research to gain "the mindset of the coasts"....but you run into more Midwest escapists....with odd ideals ..


You can't fake your way to being knowledgeable, a lot of people will see through that forum advice parroting.

>>15282392
Imagine thinking on a Saturday night
"yeah I have to go cope more in that 4 day old thread I got BTFO in"
kys fatfuck

>>15282401
Taking a break from loading ammo in the mags just Incase shit goes bad tonight so I guess whatever

>>15282405
LMAO cmon no one believes you, this is pathetic you're the textbook beta male faggot you acting tough is laughable

Imagine creating different personalities to shitpost as, and not even getting monetarily compensated for it. All this effort creating different psychologies, different vocabularies, different intellect levels. Just to shitpost on 4chan and reddit.

>>15274334
I heard some dude on insta talking about this as well. Would you say its due to an increase in business type people trying to run fashion houses to maximize profit? Surely the goal of a label is to output their artistic design and make a profit out of it but has there been a shift towards more emphasis on profit above all?
What do you wear yourself?
>>15275798
wtf tripsk?
>>15282405
fuck you sieg I hate every single post I see you in.

sieg only comes here when he’s bullied off of k for being a faggot in arg

>>15274345
says the literal subhuman Amerimutt