/fa/ - Fashion

First for I'm getting the Breitling Superocean Héritage II.

>>15030140
Now if only the new 321 speedies weren't fuckin' $14k.

Fuck power reserve indicators
Fuck day/date windows
Fuck date windows
Fuck lume
Fuck sunburst dials
Fuck chimes
Fuck dive watches
Fuck Seiko
And Fuck you

>>15029805
>Could a vintage handwind have a design that surpasses the current eta/unitas movements?
Absolutely. The basic principles of mass production movement design have not changed that much since the pre-quartz era. Basic ETA and Unitas movemnts don't really make much use of technical innovations developed in the post-quartz era, as those have mostly been applied to much more expensive movements.

For example, you will find plenty of people today who will argue strongly that the Omega 30t2 hand wind movement is still among the best mass produced handwind movements ever designed, and of course the Grand Seiko and King Seiko 45xx series movement from the late 1960s was one of the first series produced mechanical movements to pass stringent Astronomical Observatory Chronometer testing and be able to be rated for +/- 2 seconds per day accuracy.

Lads how can Minerva be so based and Mont Blanc so shit all in the same watch?

It's not fair.

>>15030172
(((Richemont)))
But ya Minerva is based.

can i replace the crystal without losing water resistence or is it redeemable in some shape or form?
also what can i do to the rim surrounding the crystal?
it served me well and i dont want to toss it out or something,it just looks super ghetto
the crystal only looks really bad when theres direct light pointed at it
efr 502 if that makes a difference

What's the deal with spring drive movements? Why are they so much more accurate than standard automatics an with much longer power reserves? Is it an actual distinct type of movement or just grand seiko marketing?

>>15030188
I'm sure this is fucking bait from a watch you probably found in the trash since the mod would cost more than the watch itself

>>15030200
I thought crystals are super cheap? He could probably just say fuck the bezel paint and just get the whole thing polished.

Give me a reason not to buy it

>>15030199
It's using a Quartz regulator.
Also your pic related is the goat watch.

>>15030212
>Give me a reason not to buy it
im gay

>>15030212
>Tag

>>15030222
No

>>15030212
The watch is literally called Autism. You'll be the laughing stock of everyone who notices the name.

Grand Seiko GMT
Based or cringe?

>>15030236
Those ones are based because they have a unique design that fits very well into Seiko's grammar of design tradition. The ones that look like Explorer II homages are way less based.

>>15030199
Mainspring regulated by a quartz crystal. It should be a distinct type of movement and the completely smooth seconds hand is a beauty. Once again and unsurprisingly the swiss are shitting themselves movementwise but they know they've got the upper hand when it comes to marketing. Also Seiko needs to step up their designs, you can name Rolex models all day but the Snowflake is the only known GS.

>>15030251
>Seiko's grammar of design tradition
Looking like a fake plastic watch for middleschoolers?

>>15030262
You seem to confuse Nippon Steel with swatch, friend.

>>15030262
For anyone who is actually interested and unfamiliar with it, here's a good article on Seiko's grammar of design styling tradition: https://wornandwound.com/art-time-taro-tanaka-seikos-grammar-design/

Grand Seiko is one of the relatively few mass production watchmakers with a clearly defined 'house style' that applies to the vast majority of their watches. Other than Rolex, most other mass market watchmakers have product catalogues with a complete mish mash of aesthetics.

The most egregious example is probably Omega, who has a product catalog full of wildy different lines with almost no commonality whatsoever.

So do people actually set the second time on GMT watches to Greenwich Mean Time? Or just whatever second time zone they feel like using?

>>15030283
That's not fair, credor deserves some love for their experiments

>>15030283
You don't know shit about design weebtard.

>>15030160
Hello, can I interest you into some good old BOCTOK?

>>15030283
This man fucks.

Look at these fucking curves and hips man.

>>15030200
no,i just used to work in construction and now im out of it,cant be seen wearing that around in normal circumstances

>>15030188
Crystal usually doesn't have much to do with wr
You want this

https://www.esslinger.com/watch-crystal-remover-and-inserter-crystal-lift-tool/
And the size of the crystal

>>15030406
Can't he just take it to a watch shop and get it replaced for a few dollars?

>>15030422
>few dollars
Aaahahahaha.

>>15030406
>>15030422
what about the bezel through?
can i do what this guy suggested?
>>15030203

Post lume shots

>>15029347

You can actually use the shadows from the hands and the dial to find your bearing.

>>15030301
Vostoks usually have date windows though

>>15029329
The SARX was from watchuseek for $475 and the SARG was $280 on Amazon. I sold the bracelet back for $85.

>>15030453
Just find a local watch shop and take it in and ask the guy, ask about replacing the crystal and polishing and find out how much it will cost. Nobody in the thread is going to give you helpful advice.
I guess if you feel up to it you could measure and replace the crystal yourself and just take a dremel with some polishing compound to it and see what happens.

>>15030453
I don't know much about that, actually. I guess you could try a polishing wheel with polishing compound, then paint acrylic over. Or you can just do this:
https://www.google.com/url?q=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DnGToVXvY-Jw&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiXkcbCrObnAhWCl3IEHedbB6MQtwIwCnoECAIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2lSFEWz_YA0TjwoIaE8z3T

Reminder that if you consider yourself a watch enthusiast and don't have an Omega Speedmaster Professional Man on The Motherfucking Moon you should be dragged out into the street and beaten to death.

@15030674
Forgot pic.

>>15030147
Stunning choice.

>>15030717
question, why you go with this instead of any of the square models that look much better? im genuinely curious

>>15030674
>buying a non 321 speedy
lmoa, what are you, poor?

>>15030726
I have a few squares

>>15030732
>sapphire crystal
Wow it's a fucking shitter.

>>15030740
poorfag cope

>>15030746
To be fair it would be nice to have the option for a hesalite crystal on the 321 speedy.

>>15030746
Is it just me or does that look almost the same as the seagull chrono movement?

>>15030932
The Seagull chrono movement is a modernized version of the Venus 175. It was a contemporary competitor to the Lemania 2310 with a similar architecture, but it's unrelated. It doesn't have the screwed balance of a Lemania 2310 nor does it match the Lemani 2310 overal in quality and was never adopted by a number of high end watchmakers the way the Lemania 2310 was. Pic related is the Vacheron Constantin 1141, which is VC's version of the Lemania 2310.

Tag Heurer Monaco: /fa/ or nah?

>>15030212
No running seconds on a chrono is tarded and lazy. >>15030214

>>15031030
very fashion yes

Hey /fa/

/k/ here and an absolute newfag to watches, but I want a couple for different dress now. I currently wear a Garmin Fenix 3 daily and it's great for that. Now I want something more dressy and have been considering the Citizen World Chronograph AT8113-04H. Is there any reason to avoid this model? If not then are there any better online stores than others? Ebay has them for about $310 but I don't want to end up with a fake or refurbished one.

Watches are a waste of money and you are just sucking the dick of a marketer who made you believe their outdated trash completes your persona.

>>15030466

Thots?

>>15031359
I can smell your poverty.

>>15031440
it generally gets shit on here, but i think it looks cool (especially the blue dial version). havent tried one on myself, but it seems like a decent alternative to an oyster perpetual or explorer 1 at half the price.

Can I get away with a Samurai on a 6.8" wrist? The 48mm lug to lug seems promising but will it just look XBOX HUEG on my wrist?

I'd prefer not to look like pic related.

>>15031440
Why not just get a Smiths if you're poor?

https://www.timefactors.com/prs25new.htm

>>15031458
I have yet to try one on myself but a buddy of mine has the 41mm one and by god it's beautiful.
>>15031470
I love the looks of these; wouldn't mind picking one up. I'm definitly poorfag college kid but I want to get rid of my shitter jap watches and upgrade. I might just wait until I'm done with college and can afford shilling out my money for something like this but it's killing me. I MUST COOOOOOOOONSSSSUUUUMMMME.

>>15031451
I can smell your archibald tier pathetic posturing. You probably live in a 1 bedroom apartment and think you're a baron for going into debt for a silly patek.

>>15031440
It's really ugly. The snowflake hour hand is hamfisted in everything without though in the design. The only time it looks okay is in the BB

>>15031467
I personally have grown out of large watches so this is a hard no for me. My max size now is 39mm

>>15031490
It's nice. If you're not buying it as an alternative to an explorer 1 you'll enjoy it a lot.

>>15031524
>If you're not buying it as an alternative to an explorer 1
Why else would you?

What are the lowest priced watches that are GOLD PLATED?

I'm getting tired of stainless steel and just want something attainable and different to look at.

>>15031523
>I personally have grown out of large watches so this is a hard no for me. My max size now is 39mm
Based an repilled.

>>15031530
>just want something attainable and different to look at.
Give your sister a call.

>>15031359
Everything besides eating for sustenance is a waste of money.

>want to get into watches at almost 40
>read this and I'm instantly depressed and demotivated
https://forums.watchuseek.com/f443/how-old-were-you-when-you-bought-your-first-luxury-watch-what-3390658-39.html

>>15031530
Honestly just go with a Seiko 5 first and see how you like it. Pic related is my beat-to-shit Seiko 5 7009 (mid 90s, I think). The plating has held up remarkably well and is complimented the most out of all my watches.

>>15031618
>get into watches
Stop being a Reddit consoomer that's looking for a "starter watch" and just buy some cool watches that you like without worrying about what will impress losers on the internet.

>>15031575
this but unironically

>>15031701
Except I'm too poor to do that and I wasted most of my life without a watch so it's pointless now?

>>15031713
fuck a watch you don't have to buy one
most of these WUS incels are in the high 6 fig / 1m net worth range thinking they're living a "luxury lifestyle" they're delusional
every grey haired bro in my office can buy basically any watch, any car, etc and they have moderate consumption habits as far as I can tell

>>15031733
What does that have to do with people being able to buy anything they wanted from 15 to 35 when it actually mattered?

>>15031736
Go have you midlife crisis somewhere else faggot.
>>>/r9k/

>>15031736
it didn't matter you retard you think some new money rich kid getting a watch improves his quality of life?

Any navifags know if breitling ever produced a reverse panda dial with arabics? Seems like you have to choose one or the other

>go to nightclub
>friends insist on getting bottle service
>Whatever, price is split 4 ways so I'm only a quarter retarded
>table next to ours has the most ostentatious looking guy sitting there with 5 Russian bimbos
>He's wearing a patek 5711 "iced out"

It's officially the most hideous abomination I have ever seen in person.

>>15031794
based iced out retard

talk me out of buying a microbrand shitter

>>15031821
Just get the aquascape already. It's fantastic.

>>15031821
can you get it serviced every 3 years?

>>15031884
If I were going to do a microbrand diver it would be halios tbhfam
>>15031902
>can you
yes
>will you
no

>>15031794
Nice, finally someone with taste instead of those retards who jerk off to Lange or grand seiko.
Next an iced out 5004p or a 5070 just to laugh at Lange owners.

>>15031241
Quality wise it should be fine, no reason to avoid it on that basis. It would be considered quite large for a dressy watch by traditional watch standards, but as you aren't a watch person that probably won't be an issue for you.

The ebay seller should be fine, no one makes fakes of that Citizen and it should be obvious if its been refurbished.

>>15031359
Some of us are actually interested in the watches and mechanisms, not in status totems. Okay, its not that many of us, but there are *some*.

Does putting a luxury watch on make you more motivated and confident and give you wings and make your dick bigger?

Or is it retarded Swiss Jew trickery?

>>15031984
Yes. Read >>15031618 and imagine how your life would have turned out if you got your first luxury watches in your teens and had a bunch of them up to your thirties.

>>15031467
Start doing arm work to make your arms look bigger. The small part of the wrist doesn't get larger, but it mitigates the effect because the start of the forearm is larger.

You can isolate the forearm using a wrist roller, but if you don't do anything else you'll look like popeye.

>>15031467
That's not a bad fit I've seen way worse
Take for example all of this guy's pics
https://www.instagram.com/horoloupe/

>>15032001
I don't think it would've been any better

>>15031950
You're just a consoomer. If you truly loved the craft you would be a watchmaker.

>>15031794
>Düsseldorf
Of course…

>>15031573
>attainable
>sister
i wish

>>15031618
how do you save up several thousand dollars mowing lawns for your neighbors as a teen? dude is lying or daddy helped buy it

Is there a "European seiko"?

>>15032081
Oris, Nomos? But starts higher

>>15032081
Swatch Group

I need a total beater I can wear at work so I'm not slumming it with a G-shock every day. I was thinking a Breitling Aerospace, Doxa Sub200, or maybe even a metal g-shock.I dont want to spend anymore than $1200

>>15032116
A tegimented Sinn or damasko would work too. Just not sure which model i would go for.

>>15032116
>slumming it with a G-shock every day.
>slumming it
G-SHOCK is pure class m8

>>15032121
Suggest me one in the "square" line that inst the standard DW5600

>>15032127
GW-5000
made in Japan
or go full metal b5000

>>15032116
Wait for the next round of titanium g-shocks and hope the price is better.
Or just get the Doxa, that's pretty sexy.

>>15032127
>>15032129
Seconding the dw-5000-1jf for that dank stainless steel case with screwback and luxury strap.
Or you could get the 5610 if you want the 5600 with solar + atomic time.

>>15032147
Fuck off with your 5g botnet watches.

Why do I like this? I don't like Breguet. I don't even like dive watches that much. It shouldn't work but for some reason I think it's cool

>>15032162
Are you a slav by any chance?

>>15030147
Might buy that one

>>15032147
Fuck i meant gw-5000-f

>>15032162
Guilloche makes anything look gorgeous.

>>15032147
Fuck fuck i meant gw-5000-1jf

Eh lads. I went yesterday to Harrods to see how Cartier Tank looks on my wrist. However, all SAs were busy with dealing with Arabs mass buying stuff there and didn't want to wait forever so wandered around and eded up at Jaeger-LeCoultre. Lady there showed me their Reverso and now I'm not so sure about Tank anymore. What are your thoughts on these two as the first grow up dress watch?

>>15032178
https://www.casio-watches.com/technology/en/technology/multi-band6/

That one has spyware too.

>>15032190
I'm getting anyone who asks about squares to fall for the multiband meme and you can't stop me.

>>15032185
I like the tank better but your decision should be 100% based on what feels and looks better on your wrist.

>>15032185
Reverso is objectively the superior watch but I find myself drawn more to the tank. Neither are "true" dress watches but both will be more than enough for any formal occasion you can realistically expect. Cartier might draw more attention from normies (especially women), which could be a good or a bad thing, and the reverso from watch guys, which again could be good or bad

>>15032185
JLC is a one trick pony with the reverso. They are almost as embarrassing as the royal oak with it. Not saying you should go with the Cartier though.

Anyone know an automatic GMT watch for under 300 dollars?

>>15032215
Probably not quite what you want but orient has a few automatics with a 24 hr subdial for less than $300.
Pic related is called gen II automatic field watch

>>15031528
Because it's a good looking watch in itself. I can imagine someone walking in the store never having heard of a 14270 and picking a 36 just off the way it looks. Not everyone is as autistic about watches as us. Honestly, the snowflake hands make it super legible, so thats a plus for me.

>>15032251
The also make this which you should be able to find for $350 if you dig around some called automatic gmt

>>15032185
Which Tank?
Cartier makes a whole bunch of them but the only one worth buying is the Tank Louis Cartier.

That said, though, it's definitely a watch you have to try on first because, despite it's small size, it can actually be pretty uncomfortable and/or sit funny if you have a bony wrist.

>>15032190
>>15032150
>>15032197
i genuinely want to know if this is a meme or not. please give me a good answer because i want to buy a new square. why is multi band 6 bad?

>>15032068
I honestly would like to get into this as a hobby but I think the barrier of entry is pretty high.

>>15032293
>but I think the barrier of entry is pretty high.
Not as much as you think. Start with doing cheap seiko mods, tinkering on old pocket watches, frankenwatches, etc. The tools and equipment aren't all that expensive.

>>15032295
What are you talking about? An ultra sonic cleaner costs like $3,000.

>>15032080
Nigger, a new sub was like 200 bucks in the seventies.

>>15032290
It's a meme, now get the GW-5000-1jf already.

>>15032300
fug bro howd you know it was me. im really on the fence cause of
>I'm getting anyone who asks about squares to fall for the multiband meme

>>15032302
That was literally me fucking with the schizo. There is absolutely nothing wrong with atomic time setting. The worst problem you could have is bad reception where you live and all that would happen if it can't get a signal is you would have to set it manually once a year or so if it lost or gained a few seconds.

>>15032307
h-how do i know youre not fucking with me

>>15032309
The guy thinks the govt can use it to track him or some shit. Are you afraid the feds are going to try to track your watch?

>>15032298
>An ultra sonic cleaner costs like $3,000.
What? You can get an ultrasonic for like 50 bucks.
Are you trying to get into a hobby or trying to start a business?

Also
>thinking $3,000 is a lot of money.

>>15032312
couldnt care less about that, i was just worried about the reliability of atomic time keeping. could i just not use atomic time and have it set manually instead?

>>15032319
>i was just worried about the reliability of atomic time keeping.
atomic time keeping is one of the most reliable things humans have ever made. much more reliable than any watch

>>15032319
>i was just worried about the reliability of atomic time keeping.
There are no issues with it. The system has been running for years without any problems.
>could i just not use atomic time and have it set manually instead?
Yes, but with most models, it will update as soon as it gets a signal.

Are silicon watch parts more or less resistant to shock than the metal they replace?

>>15032319
Yes you can turn off atomic time receive and just set it manually if you want too. Here is the manual if you want to verify for yourself.
https://support.casio.com/en/manual/manualsearch.php?cid=009&MODULE=3159&submit=

>>15032328
>>15032331
>>15032339
alright thanks amigos, ive made my decision

>>15032340
Nice, post some pictures when you get it.

>>15032290
It can be used to track your movements, and it's not known how much it saves on the actual watch and how much it's saved in other places. Basically it's just another level of spyware, if you're using smartphones and other bullshit you're tracked anyway so you shouldn't care, but if you don't want to be, like for example those retards in Afghanistan who leaked the locations of dozens of secret military bases by wearing fitness watches, just get one without the radio sync.

Another additional problem with the sync is that it's not even manual, it activates whenever the watch wants it, so you can't even control that. If it just leaked radio signal when you specifically requested it to, it wouldn't be that bad, but this is just bs.

>>15032353
bro...

>>15032290
The shitposter just changed tactics a little. Ignore it.

>>15031794
mogged

>>15032087
What's so special about Oris?

>>15030160

What about black people?

>>15030160
Dress watches are pretty samey and boring, though. You might as well just buy a seiko dolce and be done with it all, because all that's left to customize is the hands.

>>15032068
I would have gotten into watchmaking if I didn't have issues with my hands and forearms that made that kind of fine detail work untenable for long hours. So I study about them on a more theoretical level instead, because I find them interesting and fun to learn about.

>>15032081
In what sense to you mean the question? The closest analogue for Seiko's corporate structure is probably the Swatch Group, but if all the mid-level brands operated under a single name and only one or two lines got separate brands.

>>15031771

i don't believe they did anon, for whatever reason.
for navitimers though i personally perfer the all black dials as it makes time legibility better for me.

not to say that reverse pandas aren't god tier though

>>15032116
Seiko quartz tuna is the toughest analogue quartz watch on the market. Also consider any Casio with Tough Movement branding as those movements are specifically engineered to withstand severe shocks. There are Casio Lineage models in steel and Oceanus models in titanium that would have those movements for well under $1k.

>>15032211
>JLC is a one trick pony with the reverso.
Huh? The Master line is quite popular, not to mention their various haute horlogerie offerings. I don't see how the situation at JLC is at all comparable to the trash fire that AP is outside of the Royal Oak.

>>15032334
Both, in a sense. Silicon will be more resistant to shocks in terms of plastic deformation but much less resistant to shocks in terms of fracture. Basically silicon parts are much less likely to get bent but much more likely to snap outight under shocks.

>>15032493
Ok, what if we still used metal, but contact points are coated with silicon, and rubies are replaced with silicon?

>>15032484
how many of these shitters do you think are being sold every day to people trying to get bumped up on the RO waitlist?

>>15032528
Goddamn is that thing atrocious.

>>15032354
What?

Is there anything more cucked than buying an ugly shitty watch so some dealer will bump you up a wait list?

>>15032583
Try to buy some supercars. You have to buy cars that cost as much as a house on the bottom end (think Ferrari California) before they even think about putting you on a list to ask if you want their higher end one.

And they still get smoked by a Corvette or 911.

>>15032629
I'm not really sure that it works like that mate. At least not in Europe.

Does anyone know what are some good RFID Euro-sized wallets? All I'm seeing online is tiny basedboy reddit-tier shit that only has room for credit cards and Chink shit that probably doesn't even have aluminium foil inside.

>>15032295
Thanks I will consider it. Watches do interest me. Such small parts and delicate timing.

Damn /wt/. I'm really tempted to take the Vostok pill. This one looks really fun to wear during summers. especially with that orange band.

Should I go for it?

>>15032667
Just get a nice wallet and line it with stainless steel mesh.

>>15032583
rolex should just make it official and create a stamp card rewards program. came up with a protoype for them

>>15032705
Based

>>15031470
Oh yeah I really want to make sure to hit a small order window for a shitter watch. The fucks up with that guy, is he half dying?

>>15032185
Reverso every day of every week of every year

>>15032528
>>15032541
i like the chronograph version desu

>>15032681
w2c?

I thi k a japanese rolex is a fine option. As long as your honest and call it a folex lol. Whenever i met a person with a submariner and i complimented it, when they say, oh, its a folex, its from japan, i usually laughed with them and they seemed like a reasonable person. Especially when they appeared effay.

I think there is an aesthetic to well made replica rolex watches like the submariner. The design classic and is basically open source so its not a big deal to me.

>>15032839
I mean also if they are basically identical, its about the price really, same function but different price. They are like 5k-9k used and thats not like life savings type of saving up, i mean most of use could get one if we tried.

>>15032681
> Should I go for it?

They aren‘t that expensive... even if you regret it, it is not a big loss.
Just got recently a classic 420 „blaze it“ case boctok and im satisfied with it. Runs fine out of the box, wears relatively small but it‘s fine because i dont have large wrists. Strap is meh at best and will be replaced asap. Dial colour isnt exactly as shown on the website (blue scuba dude), more like greenish blue, so keep that in mind if you‘re looking at other models besides one in your pic.
Also, they can be easily customized and people say they run for ages without servicing (they were originally intended for military use) so that‘s that.

>>15032839
Good point. I have one of these and love it. Just the the submariner. One of my friends like really tried to make fun of me saying it was “fake”, but no one really cares. Its just a design. Just a watch

>>15032839
Get a swiss one, they actually work.

Are there any nice watches made in Israel?

>>15032968
No

What pairs nice with a cream dial watch besides a white strap?

>>15032692
>Just get a nice wallet and line it with stainless steel mesh.
Maybe I should just swallow the cash and cards and wear chainmail.

>>15033053
I wasn't even kidding all the rfid wallets are chink garbage but you can buy emf blocking copper fabric and line a regular wallet with it. Just search "copper fabric emf" or "copper mesh emf" on eBay.

>>15032839
>Not a perlative ceronometer
Why would you even wear it?

Hi beat or spring drive?

>>15033087
This search has been completely fruitless so far. If it's an actual wallet and not a card holder (i.e. it has space for real money and coins) then it's dollar-sized, if it's euro-sized it doesn't have RFID, and so on.

What's everyone's obsession with dumb card holder things and money clips that only hold a few notes and no coins, is this an American thing in general or just a new globalist trick to make everyone stop using cash?

>>15033139
Spring drive watches are a little bigger, so it can be a dealbreaker for some. If it isn't and the quartz bit doesn't turn you off get the spring drive. The smooth hands are mesmerizing.

>>15033141
It has to do with faggots who want to wear tight pants and redditors who want luxury shell cordovan wallets but can only afford card holders made out of high end leathers.
That's why you just buy a nice euro sized wallet and put rfid blocking mesh in yourself.

TFW i still haven't bought a g-shock

>>15033139
Personally I like the more angular styling of the hi beats a bit more than the spring drive models, and the hi beats have some really cool dials. Those are matters of personal taste, though.

If you care about mechanical watchmaking and can appreciate the effort that goes into the hi beat movements (which are some of the most heavily adjusted regulated balance movements on sale today), then hi beat. If you aren't super interested in mechanical movements though, spring drive is great.

>>15033195
Most of the spring drive models are ruined by the hideous power reserve indicator.

>>15033197
I agree, but I figured if someone was asking the question they probably don't find the power reserve indicators to be a deal breaker, no?

>>15033197
>>15033201
I think the way they're integrated into the GS dials are actually quite "elegant"

>>15033214
I don't hate the reserve on the front but ones where the reserve is on the back are pretty slick

>>15033214
It's just another unnecessary bit of clutter.
I agree with
>>15033223
That having it on the back is the way to go.

>>15032211
wut? The ultrathins and master controls are amazing watches.

Recommend me some entry level luxury watches

Preferably 36-38mm

>>15033290
Chooda
'mega

>>15031470
I just got on the Feb23rd order for a 36mm. I've been saving for an 114270 so unless I love it I'll put it up for sale and continue saving but I figure I'd better get it an know instead of spend $6k and wonder.

>>15032681
They're so cheap it's like you're not really buying them. I love mine and you will probably love yours too.

Well shit, I just realized the quick date on the KS hi beat I bid on doesn't work. I ignored the description because the dial looked pretty good. What am I supposed to do now?

>>15033418
Stop bidding on Suwa made mechanical watches.

>>15033418
Get a junk one and swap the plastic bit out?

the new speedmaster is incredibly sexy but i will never be able to justify 14 fucking thousand for it
and that's just suggest MSRP, with the low production expect grey market to be even higher, might as well bite the bullet and get a daytona

>>15033438
I would like to think that they intend to finish the 321 in it to a level appropriate for the pricetag they want to charge. At that point it wouldn't really be directly comparable to a Daytona as the Daytona has a solid caseback and a basically finished movement.

>>15033437
wtf the date wheel mechanism is plastic and the crystal is hardlex
Why did I let myself get memed on? I'd complain about Seiko cheaping out but I'm here buying 40 year old watches. Is this shit the same for modern grand seikos people buy now?

>>15033454
Just get the daini made pieces, they're more bulletproof than the suwa movements in general.

>>15033460
I clearly have no clue about anything, why is this better than spending a few hundred on something with a miyota 9015? How is this shit actually a deal?

>>15033476
>man attempts to buy vintage watches without doing any research whatsoever first
>is surprised when he gets ripped off by the first seller he encounters
lmoa

>>15033476
There's plenty of discussion about daini & suwa from the /g/ threads, just search "daini" in the archives. Do your own research, but the tl;dr is a diani made 52xx caliber is a really well made movement.

Rate my watch (left) and my gf’s watch (right)

>>15033476
So, assuming what you bid on is a 56xx movement King Seiko, there are now replacement parts available for that plastic part in the day/date quick-set mechanism: https://www.ebay.com/itm/293484205453?ViewItem=&item=293484205453

>>15033515
Interstellar sucked bro

can someone help me identify this model?
ive been looking through victorinox listings on ebay for a while and i have yet to see something similar

>>15033418
Bro, the watch is probably older than you and goes faster than a normal watch. You still made it, just chill

>>15033290
>Recommend me some entry level luxury watches
>Preferably 36-38mm
Rolex Oyster Perpetual 116000

That's the sort of watch that would easily last you well through your teens and early- to mid-twenties.

>>15033555
Someone has Hamilton envy

>>15033454
>Is this shit the same for modern grand seikos people buy now?
No. The Grand Seiko meme is a little different.

95% of Grand Seikos are utterly perfect (in construction. Their design choices can be a little dodgy.)
That remaining 5% though, get to experience new heights of passive aggressiveness as they are told that mis-aligned hands and bezels, or wildly inaccurate timekeeping is all within spec.
When Seiko finally relents and asks you to send your Grand Seiko in for service, only then do you realize that Seiko does not have a dedicated service center for GS and instead has the same schmucks who are cobbling on old SKXs working on your muxh more expensive GS.

People take having an eta movement as a mark against the watch. But assuming the same feature set, who even makes something better than a high grade 2892? And how do they prove it?

>>15032424
Nothing just inoffensive Swiss watches around $1000

>>15033730
Nothing wrong with an ETA on its own. It's when the watch is $2k+ but still has a 2824 in it with nothing changed about it except the engraving on the rotor weight.

>>15033730
The problem is that the high grade 2892 generally isn't in most of these more expensive watches. When you're pushing $2.5k for a Tag Heuer with a rebadged 2824-2 base grade with some basic regulation, it's a little much. ETA movements are fantastic for the cost and really anything under $1500 using an elabore grade 2824 or 2836 is entirely appropriate.

What up bros

>>15033920
hydrobro in the cut

>>15033920
>>15033930
How is it? Am seriously considering getting a hydroconquest myself.

>>15033920
looks cheap af

>>15033810
>>15033894
Ok, what makes them inferior besides finishing?

Question, hypothetically, say I was a rich bastard who came into a bunch of money by winning the lottery. And I wanted to give a watch as a gift. What's a watch that will make watchfags say, "Holy shit, that is a nice watch. No, seriously. That's fucking amazing. I cannot believe that's strapped to your wrist right now." But at the same time not say, "Oh, you got that from your rich friend who just went out and bought the most expensive watch out there because he's an idiot and thinks money=quality."

>>15033985
ALS of course

>>15033985
A dufor

What do you guys think?

>>15034022
a bit anti-semitic don't you think?

>>15033937
What makes a 2824 inferior to an in-house movement? Nothing necessarily. There's probably tons of in-house movements that have been built over the years which are not as well constructed as an ETA 2824. It's just a matter of cost. If you're putting an SW-200 which retails for less than $200 wholesale into a watch that you're charging 3 grand for, then the question comes to where that cost is coming from. Having an in-house process is just significantly more costly than dropping in a wholesale movement so generally watches that have in-house movements/regulation processes tend to be more expensive. Performance wise you're not always getting much better, but when you drop 3 grand on a Nomos automatic, a large portion of that goes into the locally assembled, designed and regulated movement. Whereas when you spend $3 grand on a Tag with a very basic ETA you're pretty much entirely paying for branding because the movement cost is less than $400 of that overhead.

>>15033985
hard-to-get, possibly vintage Patek

>>15033985
R W Smith

>>15033985
There's like a thousand different answers but the thing is that there's not really a ton of difference between the "Holy shit that's fucking amazing" and the "You got that from your rich friend who thinks money equals quality". Personally I wouldn't ever recommend giving anyone anything more than like 10 grand tops (and even that is very significantly beyond pretty much everyone's means for a gift). While Lange, VC, Patek, And AP are all going to get a shit ton of respect from actual watch collectors, there are also tons of people who are going to recognize that spending $20k on a watch is an incredibly wasteful and ridiculous thing to do. While watch collection in general is a wasteful consumerist hobby, it's fairly harmless until you're literally talking about wearing mortgage deposits on your wrist. Any watch that costs more than most new cars is a totally ridiculous and unjustified purchase and as much as I admire the craft of watchmaking unless your friend is incredibly passionate about watches pretty much anything in that sphere you'd get him will make him look like a douche rather than a haute horology enthusiast.

based 2416B reporting in

Can knock-offs of automatic watches be of a decent quality? Is there any way to tell?

>>15034099
ID on the band?

>>15034069
lmao leaked, enjoy those pizzas

>>15034053
cash is a more thoughtful gift than a luxury watch

>>15034109
$10 choineez bracelet off eBay

>>15034145
Ew, imagine paying money for this.

I bought my girlfriend this as a Valentine's gift. Is Mido a good brand or nah?

>>15033985
The right answer to this is a watch that can't be had simply by having lots of money. The best answer is some rare vintage watch in fantastic condition. The second best answer is a watch from an extremely limited independent shop (like a Kari V or a Roger S).

Can anyone Id this? Thanks

Okay /fa/, i have an extra car worth about $10k burger i wanna sell and buy a watch. I want something that will appreciate in value and looks good so i was thinking maybe a gold rolex day-date or a sub. I'd like a grand seiko but i don't feel like they're as good an investment as rawlecks. What watch should i buy for ~10k?

Here's the back, ignore the engravings.

>>15034237
what do the engravings say?

>>15034239
>what do the engravings say?
TSB, they're my grandpa's initials.

>>15034242
what do each letter stand for

>>15034230
The self conscious memespeak makes you look more reddit, not less, friend

>>15034245
That's irrelevant

>>15034120
I mean, a nice watch is a good gift to give someone but nice doesn't necessarily mean luxury. I got a friend of mine a decent dress watch (SARX035) as a wedding present and he loves it, but it wasn't a $20k piece and was well within reasonable for a present from one late 20's middle income guy to another on a special occasion.

If you're talking about giving someone a Lange, unless they're really really into watches and already fairly well off financially, you're probably better off giving them the $20k cash than the watch.

>>15034248
no it isnt because i want to know

>>15034230
>I want something that will appreciate in value
Don't

> so i was thinking maybe a gold rolex
Have you, uh, looked at 1) prices for solid gold rolexes, and 2) looked at resale prices for solid gold rolexes?

>>15034226
No name Swiss brand casing up some ebauche. Probably some kind of FHF, A schild, ETA, etc movement in there.

>>15034255
Thanks

>>15034226
"Bentley" is one of many brands registered to Benrus Watch Company. It has no relation to the better known luxury car company. Given the style of the watch, I'd say it came from the 50's. The "incabloc" branding is very common in mid 20th century watches. There is no real collectible value to the watch, so it's not worth the resale. It also looks like the glass and the dial has yellowed as a result of outgassing. Watch crystals from that time period often undergo a chemical reaction over the decades, resulting in an amber tone of the glass and dial. If unchecked it can corrode the hands and even the movement itself.

Does it run? Does it wind? If not, try putting it under a hairdryer on the lowest heat setting for at least 20 seconds. See if it loosens up the congealed oils and frees up the movement.

>>15034272
Holy shit dude, thanks a lot. It does run, though it's loud as fuck. It was my grandfathers so not too worried about resale value.

>>15034288
You should have it serviced. If it hasn't been serviced recently it's eating itself by being allowed to run.

>>15034247
...what?
>>15034252
Yes? As far as i know rolex generally appreciates or at least holds value. I'm talking about buying used anyway.

I forgot no one here has any experience buying watches over $200, i'd probably be better off asking reddit. Enjoy your seiko/casio poorfag edition losers lmao i'm outta here

>>15034288
Wear it in good health, then. It's your gramp's watch so it's blessed and lucky. Also, like this guy said >>15034295, get it serviced if you actually want to keep it around. Ask your local watchmaker for an movement overhaul. Get quotes. Also, good watchmakers can be goddamned hard to find.

>>15034306
snrk okay tough guy.

>>15033933
Runs like +.5 seconds a day, havent taken it off for a year, sleep with it ect. Comfy bracley, case a little large but sits well on my wrist. Micro adjustments suck and i had to take the half link out to get a good fit. Loom is poor, none on bezle or second hand. Not perfect but probanly the best watch under a grand new on grey market.

Do any of you finance your watches?

Scrolling through ebay and chrono24, I see an option to pay for them monthly through affirm or something. Is this legit? Have any of you poorfags done this?

>>15034357
Sad you would even consider doing that

>>15034365
I'm in college and can't really afford anything over $1000. I could however afford to pay monthly on something worth it.

>>15034367
Just buy a hamilton or something and save for a real watch when you can afford it. Maybe hunt around for a used watch and save a bit more, you couls get something cool without fucking yourself with consumer debt

>>15034357
>>15034367
If you can't afford it with cash you can't afford it. If you are in college it's time to take this lesson to heart, the whole construct of debt is to keep the middle class from ever getting too uppity. If you gather debt you are fucked. At MOST carry real estate debt (especially with rates as they are now in the USA). If you are completely unable to avoid it then carry functional debt (tools, a toyota camry, etc). Never ever carry luxury debt. Luxury debt is a way for the rich to cuck the poor. DONT DO IT.

>>15034367
Some companies allow 0% financing if you can pay it off in 6 or 12 months time, but you still have to provide a down payment. If you can't pay it off in 6 or 12 months time then you have to pay interest which means that you'll end up paying more for the actual cost of the watch at 0-30% APR.

This is why I would never do this as a poorfag because I'm not trying to fool people in thinking that I've made it and that I'm some nouveau rich because I got a Rolex on my wrist yet I still take the bus to work and live off mcdonalds food stamps.

>>15034212
>buying your woman anything but quartz
Have fun winding and adjusting it for her every three days.

>Yeah there was this one watch I used to own that I sold to fund another watch, but I never really connected with this one so I sold it soon after and I always regretted selling the one before that so after a while I sold two watches to get it back again. I really love this watch, should've never sold it in the first place. Anyway it's up for sale now to fund another watch.

flippers are disgusting.

>>15034357
why would a poorfag give a shit about luxury watches

>>15034357
Don't do it mate. Just save up for it slowly.

>>15034357
no, that's cringe

>>15034367
Just get something under $1000 that you can afford then. Nothing is more ridiculous looking than a college kid who can barely afford his meals wearing $200 sneakers and a $5000 watch. Be a college student and get a damn Seiko. You'll still love the thing because it doesn't actually matter what you wear, it's that you're wearing it and forming memories attached to it.

>>15034357
>>15034367
Dude...
>>15034412
>Some companies allow 0% financing
That’s like the only reason to buy something on credit, if the interest rate is lower than what your money brings in sitting in your portfolio or something. But this only works out well If you can afford the thing in cash to start with, so it totally does not apply to You.
I kinda have the opposite problem. I could easily afford an entry level luxury watch, but I struggle to even buy a few shitters that interest me, since the stock market will bottom out any day soon and then I can finally buy in with all the money I’ve got sitting around...
#firstworldproblems

>>15032314
>thinking $3000 is a lot of money

Gynecologist here, 3 grand is still a lot of money to me. You larpers are really out of control

>>15034911
>Gynecologist
gross

>>15034917
I feel like this board is literally just homosexual larpers who want to pretend that Instagram flexing is an accurate representation of reality.

>>15034991
To be fair, real reality instead of a cultivated image can be pretty ugly, especially if you live in bumfuck, nowhere. If it were more aspirational it's be nice.

>>15034991
>>15034911
https://forums.watchuseek.com/f443/how-old-were-you-when-you-bought-your-first-luxury-watch-what-3390658-39.html

Is there anything more disgusting than a rose gold watch? It doesn't look good in any way. The color clashes with everything. Is it feminine? Is it masculine? It looks like menstrual blood mixed with urine.

Who's the retard who invented this alloy.

>>15035028
>Who's the retard who invented this alloy.
Carl Faberge

>>15035028
That watch is peak sleezcore

>>15034911
>3 grand is still a lot of money to me.
I guess that all hinges on your definition of “a lot”.
For me, a lot of money starts somewhere at
>I really can’t just grab this from my bank account
And if you’re an adult, 3k should be comfortably below that threshold. However, “not a lot” mustn’t necessarily mean “lol, don’t care”. Can I technically waste 3k on some random bullshit? Sure. Will I do it? Absolutely not.

What watch will:

1) signal wealth/class to chicks +
2) not make you look like an asshole +
3) appreciate in value?

>>15035028
It looks ok on black people because warmer skin tone

>>15035159
Rolex

>>15035159
1 and 2 are an oxymoron

>>15035067
I would consider "a lot of money" to be any amount that I have to really consider spending before I do it. I could easily go yank $3k out of my savings to drop on some watch, but it would be a pretty terrible decision because that $3k could actually make a large difference in my ability to do something else later along the line. If you're someone to whom $3k is not an amount of money that you're concerned if it just falls out of your pocket and you never see it again, then maybe $3k on a watch is a reasonable amount to spend on a luxury good.

>>15035165
they won't notice a gold dress watch on a strap?

>>15035171
If your goal is to wealth signal to women, you're going to look like an asshole

>>15035159
>1) signal wealth/class to chicks +
Depends on what kind of chicks you're looking for. But since you're specifying chicks instead of women or girls, I'd say go for a gold Invicta or some dinner plate sized Diesel watch.
>2) not make you look like an asshole +
If a shitty watch takes you over the looks-like-an-asshole threshold, you're probably a douche anyways, so just wear whatever
>3) appreciate in value?
That's like asking
>what stocks will apreciate in value
There's a few things that are likely to rise in value, but the bubble might also burst any moment now…

What is the absolute best watch 200 dollars can get me?

Anything as long as its not bigass dinner plate invicta shit.

>>15035231
>Best
Expand

>>15035231
BOCTOK

>>15035232
has longterm value
sapphire crystal
automatic/mechanical
looks nice and well designed
will make panties wet (maybe)

>>15035235
Get a fake then sell it on Ebay later passing it off as the real thing, just don't do rolex

>>15035231
Probably some AliExpress special like a Parnis or a Heimdallr.

>>15035235
No 200 dollar watch has long term value

>>15035367
>>15032178

>>15035235
Orient mako/ray
Or like >>15035332 says some kind of heimdallr seiko clone

>>15035376
>spyware

>>15035231
At sub-$200 you're mostly looking to avoid the "minimalist fashion brand" shit as described in the OP link. I'd probably just say get an Invicta 8926OB with a bottle cap bezel (not scalloped, i.e. Omega-style), which is the only decent watch they've got, and $20 for a seatbelt premium Nato strap. It's good value and the NH35 movement is in many more expensive watches, and the design is a straight-up Rolex ripoff so no complaints there. (aside from overbranding, arguably.)

Spend the remaining $100 on an expensive haircut; that, more than a watch, will get the bitches wet.

>>15035515
>$100 haircut
What the fuck

>>15033571
241396

>>15035806
ty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo6Sxx6BgGo

Imagine being a loser who buys watches like this holy shit.

>>15030140
new
>>15035967
>>15035967

>>15035159
unironically a rolex

>>15032471
protip: wear gloves so your hands can stay silky smooth for the hand jobs you give your boyfriend